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| Blogcast: High Prices and Lost Deals | 13 Sep 2024 | 00:03:35 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on July 11, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/high-prices-and-lost-deals/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Get Your Business Exit Ready While Maximizing Its Value with Christine Nicholson | 09 Sep 2024 | 00:30:06 | |
Christine Nicholson has a 25-year experience of running companies in multiple sectors. She started, built, and exited multiple successful businesses. She took a business from £0-£4.5m turnover in 15 months. And she also rescued a bankrupt company from millions in debt to an eight-figure exit in under 18 months. More than just experience, she studied hard to become a Chartered Management Accountant with a law degree, a postgraduate degree in Information Systems Management - and a Professionally Accredited and Experienced Business Mentor. In this episode, Christine shares valuable insights on several key topics related to business valuation and pricing like the owner's emotional attachment, preparing a business for sale and customer feedback for pricing strategies. She provides a balanced view of how to strategically prepare a business for sale, emphasizing the importance of logical pricing decisions and understanding customer value perceptions.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
"Go and ask your customers what they think of your service. If you were no longer providing this service, what would they be willing to pay for the level of service that they get from someone else?" - Christine Nicholson
Topics Covered: 01:02 - How did she get involved in pricing 03:20 - Discussing a common misconception among business owners regarding the value of their businesses 03:51 - Highlighting a scenario of the emotional complexities and the challenges business owners face when selling their businesses 12:22 - The psychological dynamics involved when business owners try to value their businesses and their services 14:37 - Explaining the key factors that sophisticated buyers look for when purchasing a company 17:22 - Deeper motivations tied to personal beliefs and values other than price when selling a business 19:40 - How adjusting pricing is one of the quickest and easiest ways to improve a business 22:05 - Christine's approach to helping companies fix their pricing strategies which involves more than simply raising prices 24:07 - Addressing the emotional and logical aspects of business decision-making 25:36 - Christine's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "When you're talking directly to your customers, you have to talk with your heart because you're dealing with one human being typically to another. " - Christine Nicholson "...if you get your pricing right, then you're going to make more profits; you're going to generate more positive cash flows." - Christine Nicholson "When it comes to selling your business, all the heart is with the seller, and all the logic is with the buyer." - Christine Nicholson "When people put their soul into something, they attach a value to it when they're selling their business; ironically, and completely paradoxically, they don't attach the value of the effort that they put into the business to their customers." - Christine Nicholson "One of the biggest problems that I see from a selling business is where somebody is mentally associating the value of the business by the effort they've put in, but they're not reflecting that correctly in the way that their pricing to their customers." - Christine Nicholson "You need to believe the value that you are giving to your client." - Christine Nicholson "Buyers do not want to buy a job. They are buying an investment that has a hard return on capital. And the more certain they are about the return on capital, the higher the money that they will pay and the faster you'll get the cash in your bank." - Christine Nicholson
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| Blogcast: Collusion vs. Implicit Collusion: Navigating Legal and Profitable Pricing Strategies | 02 Aug 2024 | 00:03:41 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on June 13, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/collusion-vs-implicit-collusion-navigating-legal-and-profitable-pricing-strategies/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Top Pricer Tournament: Simulating Winning Pricing Strategies with Mark Chussil | 20 Nov 2023 | 00:30:00 | |
Mark Chussil is the founder of Advanced Competitive Strategies, Inc. He is an expert in qualitative and quantitative business war games, custom strategy simulators, executive education and management development programs. Highly rated speaker, published books and dozens of articles on business and competitive strategy. In this episode, Mark shares how simulating pricing strategies before actually implementing them can do away with costly outcomes thereby improving one's bottom line.
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"If we choose a good strategy that turns out to be bad, what we have actually encountered is a false positive. And what we need to do a whole lot better in business is to be able to distinguish the false positives from the true positives. And that's what these simulations are about." - Mark Chussil
Topics Covered: 02:59 - Differentiating decision rules versus decisions 05:31 - Mark Chussil agreeing to what Mark Stiving says in reference to Axelrod's 'tit for tat' and 'tit for tat with forgiveness' 07:16 - Drawing inspiration from Axelrod's work, Mark describes his own contribution 09:51 - Mark Chussil's perspective on Mark Stiving's assertion that companies prioritizing profit outperform those aiming for market share 11:15 - Findings about 'tit for tat' on why it doesn't work 12:17 - What is 'Top Pricer Tournament' and how it relates to or differ from 'Prisoner's Dilemma' 16:07 - Surprising findings from his own 'Top Pricer Tournament' 21:37 - Things to expect when you join Top Pricer Tournament 24:58 - Mark's best pricing advice 27:12 - Relating strategy to a decision
Key Takeaways: "Strategy is a bet." - Mark Chussil "In the Top Pricer Tournaments, and in life in general, we have situations where we can make great decisions, but somebody else has made a better decision or somebody else has come up with something that we didn't think about." - Mark Chussil "I have seen people come up with strategies that I know I never would have thought of. And there's also a few that are in the Top Pricer Tournament that no human has selected yet, and that would outperform any of the ones that humans have selected so far." - Mark Chussil
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| Blogcast: Rules of Thumb for Price Increases | 17 Nov 2023 | 00:03:09 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on October 5, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/rules-of-thumb-for-price-increases/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: Queen of Hearts – Value-based Pricing | 15 Nov 2023 | 00:02:32 | |
This one is the Queen of Hearts from the Impact Pricing card deck. Value-based pricing has many different meanings. Different people use it differently. Oftentimes, it's used to say, what's the value of each individual feature that's different between your product and your competitors, and add that to your competitors price. And by the way, that's a great way to think about value and value-based pricing. But the easiest definition I've heard of for value-based pricing is, charge what your customers are willing to pay. And I love this definition because sure, it takes into account the fact that we sometimes have competitors. And we want to know what's the value of our differentiation relative to our competitors' products. Absolutely, these are crucial things for us to know. But we also get to discover, what happens if they're not considering competition at the time? Or, what happens if it's raining and we want to sell an umbrella? So, these differences in time, differences in use cases, these things all have impact in how our customers value our products. And likewise, how much they would be willing to pay for our solutions to their problems. So, I love this concept or this idea that says, look, we all want to charge based on how much value our customers are getting. That would be value-based pricing. But the way to think about it is, how much is a customer willing to pay because that's how much they value your product. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our playing cards, pick a card, read the saying, then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. By the way, you can also play card games. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Quantifying Value: The Key to Selling with Confidence with John Mansour | 13 Nov 2023 | 00:25:16 | |
John Mansour founded Product Management University to unlock one’s full growth potential by making quantifiable customer outcomes the starting point for everything. In this episode, John explains the concept of buyers trading money for value. Therefore, it is crucial to consider the quantifiable value aspect, as it forms the basis for developing effective pricing strategies.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
"The quantifiable value piece is so important in what we do, which is, if you can quantify a unit of value to the customer for what your products are doing, that is a good starting point to figure out your pricing." - John Mansour
Topics Covered: 01:31 - Reading a snippet from John's LinkedIn About Section 02:04 - What prompted him to conceive that idea in his LinkedIn About section? 04:56 - Why often customer value comes only secondary to most companies 06:49 - A matter of a discovery journey and digging down the customer's why 09:28 - One key thing to understand when dealing with your customers' key decision makers for your questions to be relevant to them 11:17 - Quantifying value in B2C versus B2B 12:52 - Ways to measure quantitative value 15:03 - Measuring quantitative value other than in dollars 19:26 - A process for identifying quantifiable value [case studies illustrating this] 22:43 - John's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "If you deliver quantifiable value to the customer, it's going to come back to you in spades to your own organization and support whatever your strategic goals are." - John Mansour "It's a matter of just understanding what their priorities and their agenda is. Because if they're going to trade value for money, we have to understand what's valuable to them and how it can be quantified." - John Mansour "The dollars aren't always at the forefront. It's the impact that you have on things that are important." - John Mansour "The more you can quantify those units of value, the easier it is to come up with a price that you can sell because you're selling the value." - John Mansour
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| Pricing Table Topics: Queen of Spades – Compete on Value, Not on Price | 10 Nov 2023 | 00:02:09 | |
This one is the Queen of Spades from the Impact Pricing card deck. We really should be competing on value, not on price. We often think we're in a price war with our competition. We think our competitors are competing on price because we watch them give deep discounts to customers when we're in negotiations and we're wondering, why are they competing on price? But if you think about it, we responded with deep discounts on our products, and they look at us and they say, why are they competing on price? What we really need to do is hold our price, try to maintain that price at a nice high level, and instead explain why our product is worth so much more money than our competitors. If our competitors are going to lower their price, it's probably because their product isn't as valuable as our product. We need to learn what does value truly mean to our customers and help them understand how much value they're going to get. When we learn to create, communicate, value better, we'll be able to capture more of it in the way we price and the deals we close. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our playing cards, pick a card, read the saying, and talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. By the way, you can also play card games. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: King of Clubs – Willingness to Pay Drives Pricing | 08 Nov 2023 | 00:02:43 | |
This one is the King of Clubs from the Impact Pricing card deck. Sadly, too many companies still use cost-plus pricing. We take the cost of manufacturing or creating something, we add a margin, and there's our price. It's easy. We know we're making margin, but are we maximizing our profit? Maybe we're pricing so high that we miss out on some customers, or maybe we're pricing so low that we're missing out on what some customers would be willing to pay us. Think about it this way. Imagine that it costs you $10 to build something, all in. Whatever costs you want to consider, great. And you have a buyer out there that's willing to pay you $100 for it. What's the profit-maximizing price that you could charge? Well, it's a hundred dollars. If you charge 99, you left a dollar on the table. If you charge a hundred and one, that buyer's not going to buy. And so, a hundred dollars is the best you could possibly do with that buyer. But what if instead of costing you ten dollars, what if it cost you twenty-five dollars to make it? Same buyer. What price would be the profit maximizing price? Well, obviously it's still a hundred dollars. Mind you, we make less money because our costs are higher. But the best we can do price-wise is the $100 because that's what our customer is willing to pay. When we think about pricing this way, we're not saying costs don't matter to business. What we are saying is costs don't really matter to us setting our price. Yes, we want to make sure our prices are above our costs. We want to make sure we're making money. So, think of it as a limit. But it isn't the thing that drives our price levels. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Maximize Profits with Intelligent Pricing through Customer Segmentation with Nikhil Kalla | 06 Nov 2023 | 00:33:11 | |
Nikhil Kalla is a Global Pricing Manager at Ingersoll Rand who collaborates closely with regional pricing and global cross functional teams to drive projects that build pricing governance, create value propositions, align pricing with the market by applying segmentation, harmonization, rationalization and market research. In this episode, Nikhil shares the significance of customer segmentation in developing a product that caters to different pricing tiers - top, middle, and low. This approach ensures that the product aligns with customers' willingness to pay based on the value they receive.
"If we had known our customer more or the most, you would have been able to segment your market and gain maximum on your profitability." - Nikhil Kalla
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Topics Covered: 01:46 - What's all this obsession of Nikhil over mastering Rubik's cube 02:52 - How he found himself in pricing 04:31 - Defining customer segmentation 07:09 - Customer segmentation by way of price segmentation 08:59 - What goes into approving different price points for different customers and even for the same ones 11:20 - What drives different pricing mix 17:18 - Market segmentation as a way to sell your products more intelligently 19:40 - How this works: Two different products targets two different market segments with two different price points 26:42 - Explaining what real-life scenario versus assumptions when talking about value to price ratio[how packaging works as part of customer segmentation] 30:23 - Nikhil's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "Customer segmentation is all about deriving value, the maximum value from your customer base." - Nikhil Kalla "Other than just being value and pricing, I feel there's more about communication of that value and then convincing part to be able to fetch maximum price so that the ratio of value by price is least as a win for me if I'm the supplier. And it has to be maximum so that the buyer gets to gain the most out of that transaction." - Nikhil Kalla "When it comes to having the ability to sell to a slightly non elastic market where the demand is going to be expected to stay the same, you would always want to rely on pricing as a lever. Because everything that comes through pricing just goes to your pocket." - Nikhil Kalla
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| Blogcast: Why Your NRR Isn’t Better | 03 Nov 2023 | 00:03:09 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 28, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/why-your-nrr-isnt-better/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: King of Diamonds – Customers Buy Perceived Value | 01 Nov 2023 | 00:03:01 | |
This one is the King of Diamonds from the Impact Pricing card deck. We know that customers trade money for value. They're buying value, but what kind of value? There's lots of ways to break value up, but in this meme we want to talk about the difference between perceived value and real value. Let's imagine there is this true measurable amount of value. For example, maybe I'm selling a gold coin and that gold coin actually has a value that I could look up online and say, what's the value of this coin? Got it. But when I'm selling a service or I'm selling a product, I can't just go look up online and say, what's the value of this? Especially to me, because I don't know how I'm going to use it. I don't know how it's going to create more profits. And so, what I'm willing to pay is based completely around how much value do I think I might be getting from that product. Now here's a great example. Imagine that you're selling a coffee cup. So what's the value of a coffee cup to somebody, right? Maybe it depends upon what the design is on the front, or who really wants it, or what the lid looks like. I mean, there's lots of different factors that might define what someone's willing to pay. And so, they say, yeah, I'd pay 10$ for that coffee mug. But what if there was a gold coin at the bottom of the coffee mug when they bought it, and that gold coin is worth 1, 000$. They just bought 1, 000$ gold coin for 10$ because their perception was, hey, it's a coffee mug. They didn't perceive the value of the gold coin at the bottom. They're not buying the true value, they're only buying the value they know about. How do we use this information? Well, it means to us that we have to be marketing and selling the true value of our product. Because if we're not communicating our value well to our buyers, they're not using it as they make decisions on should they buy our product or not, and how much would they be willing to pay for it. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Leveraging the Power of Selling and Leadership to Win at Higher Prices with Scott K. Edinger | 30 Oct 2023 | 00:29:19 | |
As a consultant, author, advisor, and speaker, Scott K. Edinger creates positive change for clients and is recognized as an expert in the intersection of leadership, strategy, and sales. He is the author of The Growth Leader: Strategies to Drive the Top and Bottom Lines. In this episode, Scott delves into the powerful link between good selling and good leadership. He highlights the significance of persuading others to embrace your vision and strategies as a leader, much like enabling people to invest in the desired outcomes that your product can potentially offer them.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
“If you really want to think about pricing, then it's not a spreadsheet exercise. It's an exercise in thinking about how do we create value in the sales process. And that will determine how much you can charge.” - Scott K. Edinger
Topics Covered: 01:24 - How Scott found himself in pricing 02:48 - A backstory of how he started in HR and landed in pricing 03:09 - A deep dive into why selling and leadership are closely related 08:06 - How to sell at a higher margin without too much discounting 10:15 - Questions to ask your team to uncover if they're bringing value to people's sales experience 12:11 - Making customers find aha moments in your offer/service 13:49 - How you make people choose you over competing options 15:16 - Building trust and what it takes to build it at this point in time 17:26 - Discussing about a faulty assumption on the idea of 'land and expand' 19:47 - Sales experience in relation to customer experience in the concept of 'land and expand' 22:08 - What drives expansion 23:51 - The 3 Cs of inspiring and communicating 25:31 - Scott's response to Mark's comment: Here's what I love about those three C's. They ought to be in chapter one 26:04 - Scott giving his best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "The sales experience is the first mile of the customer experience highway. And if it's not good, people get off at exit one and have a customer experience someplace else." - Scott K. Edinger "If you want to sell at a higher margin, sell at greater margins or sell expanded solutions, then your ability to help customers to think differently, to help them to see problems that they hadn't anticipated or solutions that they hadn't considered, that part of the sales experience has to be a priority. That can become a differentiator." - Scott K. Edinger "One of the things that I think really drives it [expansion] is if you recognize the sales execution in your business; sales becomes the execution of your strategy." - Scott K. Edinger
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| Product-Led Growth vs. Sales-Led Growth with Leah Tharin | 29 Jul 2024 | 00:32:17 | |
Leah Tharin brings B2B SaaS to the product-led growth retention light. Advising organizations to bring growth, product, marketing, and sales in line, scaling to move down or upmarket. She works in the operational details and not the hypothetical clouds with her clients. In this episode, Leah explains the differences between product-led growth (PLG) and sales-led growth, highlighting the benefits of usage-limited freemiums in PLG strategies. She emphasizes the importance of focusing on core value and customer experience when designing freemiums. She advises on pricing strategies, recommending minimal price changes during the early stages and frequent experiments as the company matures.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
"If you cannot convince people to use your stuff for free, then I think you should not have any price on your product." - Leah Tharin
Topics Covered: 01:32 - Why she describe the relationship between pricing and value as stressful 03:09 - Defining a product-led growth 06:47 - Leah expanding the product-led growth definition to include interactive demos and automated marketing tools 08:49 - How companies adopt product-led growth to improve cost efficiency and compete with more agile, cost-effective competitors 11:22 - Sales-led growth defined 14:20 - What does a product-led growth focuses in getting into 20:02 - Understanding a Freemium product offer 24:10 - Why she prefers a Freemium model that is usage-limited 26:46 - An outcome-driven way of looking at the minimum viable product 29:31 - Leah's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "Traditionally we talk about product-led growth in the terms of trials, freemiums, getting something for free forever until you buy it, and so forth. But I also talk about it in the context of getting an interactive demo where you understand what they now do inside of this demo." - Leah Tharin "...what we try to do in product-led growth is exactly this. It's not so much about how much the customer spends in the initial payment with us or like even the first couple of months, maybe even year. It is about the lifetime value, how fast we can escalate this of course as well because this is also a sign of customer value." - Leah Tharin "For commoditized markets, product-led growth, if it can be done, it's not always the right thing, but definitely the choice that you have to make. In new verticals with extremely complicated integrations, we tend to be more sales-led for sure." - Leah Tharin
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| Blogcast: Learning from iPhone Pricing | 27 Oct 2023 | 00:02:36 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 21, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/learning-from-iphone-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:
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| Pricing Table Topics: King of Hearts – Value Comes from Problems Solved and Results Delivered | 25 Oct 2023 | 00:02:35 | |
This one is the King of Hearts from the Impact Pricing card deck. We often think about, what is value? And we think of value-based pricing, it's what's a customer or buyer willing to pay. And so, their willingness to pay has everything to do with how they perceive the value of our product. So, what is that value? Well, it turns out nobody actually wants to buy your product. What they really want to buy are solutions to their problems. And so, how do we think about that? If we want to think about value, let's start by thinking about what's the problem, or problems, our buyers are really facing. When we deeply understand that and we can articulate that back to the buyer, oftentimes, they can't articulate it, we build great relationships. We resonate with them. And then we can start talking, hey, if you solve this problem, what kind of results might you expect? And when they can articulate those results and we put them in numerical format, some kind of quantity, then we can usually use business acumen in a B2B space to say, great, here's how much additional profit that would generate for you. Or even better than that, ask them, how much additional profit do we think that would generate for you? And maybe we hold their hand while they do the math. But regardless, the point of this whole meme is that value always comes back to, my buyer has a problem, they want to solve the problem, and what's the result they're trying to achieve when they solve this problem. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Why Is Net Revenue Retention (NRR) Your Most Important Growth Metric? Latest Report with Steven Forth | 23 Oct 2023 | 00:41:56 | |
Steven Forth is Ibbaka’s Co-Founder, CEO, and Partner. Ibbaka is a strategic pricing advisory firm. He was CEO of LeveragePoint Innovations Inc., a SaaS business designed to help companies create and capture value. In this episode, Steven delves into a report that includes research analysis on the Net Revenue Retention growth of various industries. The report explores the impact of factors such as organizational design, package architecture, pricing metrics, among others. Additionally, it highlights the role of churn, customer success, and a dedicated team in driving this growth.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
"You need to have two pricing metrics so that you can grow in package. So, some form of usage-based pricing is going to be absolutely critical to a successful NRR growth." - Steven Forth
Topics Covered: 01:55 - What drives Ibbaka and PeakSpan to work together and come out with a report that gives insights to the pricing industry 06:01 - Why not include price increase when considering net revenue retention [NRR] 09:25 - Differentiating upsell from cross-sell 10:58 - Two reasons why NRR by API is high 15:07 - An explanation on what those chart and numbers mean on page 29 of the report 18:10 - Explanation to Mark's observation on the package architecture with one data showing huge NRR 20:48 - The meaning behind having independent modules but low NRR [in reference to the two sections in the report] 23:04 - Steven's response to Mark's suggestion of redoing the chart [good, better, best version] 26:17 - Touching on the different pricing metrics for AI [ what he says about pricing based on input/output tokens] 28:50 - Pricing a solution and a platform [case in point: Zoom] 33:23 - Explanation to Mark's question in reference to page 39 of the report about Pricing Metrics for API Integrators: Are APIs supposed to be a pricing metric? 35:10 - Two important points that these data report generates [also touching on churn, customer success, and dedicated team and how it affects NRR] 40:36 - Steven's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "If you've designed your packaging and pricing so that you don't have growth in package, don't have upsell, and don't have cross sell, then you know in advance that the net revenue retention is going to be less than a hundred percent because there is always going to be some churn." - Steven Forth "API as a pricing metric is associated with high NRR performance. Why is that? And I think the answer is because of the verticals where it's used." - Steven Forth "There's lots of companies that are not very good at cross-sell. So the fact that, if you're using independent modules and you have low NRR, that suggests that you're not doing a very good job with cross-sell." - Steven Forth "When you really get into this data, even in the verticals that are generally having low net revenue retention, there are a few companies that have high net revenue retention. So you can't just blame it on your vertical because there are probably some of your competitors in your vertical that do have maybe not 130, but 110 to 120% net revenue retention." - Steven Forth "The companies that have the best NRR performance are the companies that have dedicated NRR teams." - Steven Forth
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| Blogcast: Four Ways to Grow a Customer | 20 Oct 2023 | 00:03:24 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 14, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/four-ways-to-grow-a-customer/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: King of Spades – There’s No Such Thing As a Commodity | 18 Oct 2023 | 00:03:01 | |
This one is the King of Spades from the Impact Pricing card deck. Of course there's no such thing as a commodity. Well, many salespeople, many business people think they're selling a commodity. And what that really means is that they just have to charge the same price that everybody else charges. But is that really true? In my view of the world, if you're charging the exact same price, that means you're not adding any value. Why would I buy from you versus somebody else? And in truth, there are ways that you can add value to almost anything. For example, if you were to go to two different vendors of gold coins online today, you'll find they're not identical prices. But isn't gold a commodity? Well, maybe it's approximately the same price, but there's a difference in price based on the service level of the vendor. Based on something that they're giving above and beyond. Maybe it's free shipping. Maybe it's storage. Maybe it's the niceness of the salespeople. Regardless of what it is, there's something there that says, Hey, I get to charge a little bit more than my competition because my product, my service, something is better. And what we need to do, even if we're selling a true commodity, something that is physically identical to somebody else's, we can differentiate it through other means. So, we should always be focused on the fact that we are not selling a commodity. In fact, my view of the world is, if you're claiming that you sell a commodity, then we don't need you as a salesperson. And we don't need you as a product manager. Because pretty much everybody has the same thing, why would we need you to help us? So, accept that fact and drive hard, what's different? Where's your differentiation? What can you do that's better so that you can charge a higher price? We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| AI Pricing Capabilities for Your Business with Brooks Hamilton | 16 Oct 2023 | 00:30:52 | |
Brooks Hamilton is a principal at Hamilton AI Strategy Advisors, specializing in strategy consulting, product management, program management, cross-functional team leadership, and go-to-market strategy. In this episode, Brooks discusses AI Pricing capabilities and upcoming opportunities that benefit pricing optimization, revenue and data management, and AI's ability to enhance productivity in various areas of your business.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
"I would really look at the opportunity in front of them to delight their customers and delight their employees by simplifying the Excel file management problem that we all wrestle with." - Brooks Hamilton
Topics Covered: 01:30 - What you can expect from this conversation 02:15 - How is AI pricing helping businesses with no big data sets? 05:32 - The ease of consolidation of customers' names with AI Pricing 07:46 - How much is there to learn with AI pricing? 09:31 - Getting started with AI and navigating it 12:13 - Addressing the issue of AI failing to generate your unique voice [ in the case of writing pricing blogs] 15:06 - Could AI potentially offer a precise solution for the problem presented? [in reference to Mark’s case] 16:53 - Going deeper into the analogy that Mark provided regarding the AI’s capability to provide a solution 18:55 - AI’s capability advancement in terms of pricing 20:43 - Email responses advancement where AI is concerned 22:17 - Two ways to find out your customers’ size in terms of revenue even with limited data 24:16 - Challenges and questions with regards to AI pricing 25:46 - What does Brooks' company, Hamilton AI Strategy Advisors do? 27:07 - Some more challenges in addition to what Mark already mentioned and what could be the implications 27:37 - Brook's advice on how organizations should look at and think about AI 38:33 - Brook's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "In the realm of pricing, certainly things like price optimization, and then more broadly revenue management, especially in a B2B realm, where do I go find these opportunities, have really been the domain of sophisticated analytical and optimization packages." - Brooks Hamilton "Right now I think that the main opportunities are going to be in data management, data cleanup, and then just trying to make your life as a corporate citizen or somebody who interacts with corporate citizens easier in terms of getting faster and more complete on your email responses. It can be that simple to try to just get more productive." - Brooks Hamilton "It's one that I would advise them [companies] to not take off looking at it and saying, hey, this is just going to be crypto crap all over again. Because there are some real differences. And as McKinsey has pointed out, if you do not begin this journey, it is going to be very challenging later to catch up because unlike other tech revolutions, the pace of change of this one is rapid." - Brooks Hamilton
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| Blogcast: Two Ways to Grow Revenue | 13 Oct 2023 | 00:02:43 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 7, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/two-ways-to-grow-revenue/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Blogcast: The First Principle of Pricing | 11 Oct 2023 | 00:03:09 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 1, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/the-first-principle-of-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| The Strategic Role of Pricing in Business Operations with Karan Sood | 09 Oct 2023 | 00:31:28 | |
Karan Sood had the privilege of overseeing revenue management for over $6 billion in revenue across a diverse range of industries during the past decade. Throughout this experience, he gained a deep understanding of the critical role that pricing plays in business success. In this episode, Karan explains how to effectively map out touch points within organizations to help individuals understand the significant impact pricing can have on business success.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
"Map out your pricing touchpoints in marketing, supply chain, finance…everyone! And then figure out how your pricing should operate in the organization." - Karan Sood
Topics Covered: 01:29 - What led him to pricing and how that internship led him to one job after another 05:46 - Pricing as strategy and marketing 07:40 - Important thoughts on pricing underrepresentation 10:34 - Why there aren't VP of Pricing titles in most organizations 11:34 - The friction role that go with pricing 13:44 - How does pricing relate with sales enablement? 21:53 - What happens when you're mainly pricing and not enabling sales teams 24:56 - Likely reason for sales prevention team existing in the sales enablement team 25:43 - Causes of over-discounting and how not to fall into the trap 28:17 - Karan's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: “Pricing sits at the heart of the organization.” - Karan Sood “It's [pricing] not guesswork, but it's guesswork with a framework in a way that there's no one perfect price.” - Karan Sood “I don't worry about that price per se anymore because I know with the right leverage with the customer and internally in the organization, I can move that needle.” - Karan Sood
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| Blogcast: Defining Value-based Pricing | 06 Oct 2023 | 00:05:04 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 25, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/defining-value-based-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:
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| Blogcast: Price Segmentation in Action: Why Geography Matters for Your Wallet | 26 Jul 2024 | 00:04:01 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on June 6, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/price-segmentation-in-action-why-geography-matters-for-your-wallet/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: Ace of Clubs – Nobody Cares About Your Product | 04 Oct 2023 | 00:02:35 | |
This one is the Ace of Clubs from the Impact Pricing card deck. Nobody cares about your product. Let's use an example. Let's pretend that you're in the marketplace for a new car, and you're thinking to yourself, Hey, I could go buy a Tesla or some other electric car, or I could buy a more traditional gas powered car. And so, are you really focused on what are the features of the electricity, of the batteries? Are you really focused on, Hey, if I buy electric then I have electric. You actually don't care. Here's what you might care about. You might care about the fact that electric cars, especially Teslas, have amazing acceleration. They come off the line super quickly. You may care about the fact that you're not burning fossil fuels and you're not polluting your city. These are things that you value. But you know what you don't care about? You don't care about the fact that it's electricity or if it's gas. You care about the things it does for you. How it impacts your life, how it impacts your world, how it impacts your self perception. These are all things you value. And so, when we're selling a car, are we going to sell, Hey, this is an electric car. Or are we going to sell, Hey, this is really fast. Or, Hey, this really helps the environment, and don't you want to be environmentally conscious. In the end, buyers buy value. They really don't care about your product. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our Impact Pricing playing cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Setting and Optimizing Pricing for Your Veterinary Business with Robert Ribciuc | 02 Oct 2023 | 00:32:36 | |
Robert Ribciuc is the Managing Partner at EBITDA Catalyst. He helped establish, grew, and managed a successful advisory/consulting firm focusing on pricing strategy and analytics, go-to-market optimization, and revenue management for middle-market corporate and private equity portfolio (PE) clients in diverse industry verticals. In this episode, Robert shares the need to understand the veterinary business as a whole, from the service to the non-service products to come up with the best pricing strategy.
Why you have to check today's podcast:
"The hypothetical practice where the veterinarian also acts as the practice manager which the more you go up in size you have multiple practices, and then you get to these corporate entities, they try to avoid that like the plague." - Robert Ribciuc
Topics Covered: 02:31 - Robert's thoughts on what is said as unreasonable expenses in taking care of pets 07:07 - Understanding the dynamics of the veterinary practice as totally different from other industries 11:49 - How are the bigger veterinary companies leading when it comes to price increase? 14:22 - Payment schemes to consider for veterinary expenses 15:22 - How should veterinarians deal with pricing 17:19 - Staying in the veterinary business for long-term 18:17 - The concept of having a practice manager responsible for pricing, instead of the practice owner [implementing the good, better, best pricing] 22:01 - How to effectively manage pricing for the diverse range of services and products offered by a veterinary practice 27:49 - His definition of business success
Key Takeaways: "One of the trends we should talk about is adoption or non-adoption of insurance in this space and other types of concepts from pricing like subscription or wellness plans, where instead of having that one time pain that is potentially dramatic and brings you to tears, you have a tiny bit of pain every month, but hopefully short of tears." - Robert Ribciuc “If you are one of these practices and you're selling a product, you take the case of medication that's being sold. And some of these practices sell some of the medication physically in the practice. And then there are providers like vet source, which is a way to have your online pharmacy that's like your practices ordering portal for your practice customers, that's a pretty significant part of revenue for a practice. And so there are questions over there. How do you get sophisticated with pricing in that space?” - Robert Ribciuc
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| Pricing Table Topics: Ace of Diamonds – Value-based Pricing is a Goal and an Attitude | 29 Sep 2023 | 00:02:14 | |
This one is the Ace of Diamonds from the Impact Pricing card deck. Value-based pricing truly is a never ending journey. Think about what it means. It means we're going to charge what a customer is willing to pay. But you can't read your customer's mind. You have no idea exactly how much someone's willing to pay you. And so we can make decisions inside our company to get us closer and closer to that number. We can do experiments. We can do interviews. We can, by the way, sell more value, communicate value better, increase that willingness to pay. And so everything we do should be focused on how much is that customer willing to pay. But because we can't read their mind, we can't be perfect. And if we can't be perfect, that means we can always get better. My recommendation is don't pretend that we have value-based pricing done. Consider value-based pricing as an attitude, it's the goal. It's the journey that we're on to get better and better at capturing more of the value we deliver to our customers. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our Impact Pricing cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: Ace of Hearts – Adopt Value-based Pricing | 27 Sep 2023 | 00:02:29 | |
This one is the Ace of Hearts from the Impact Pricing card deck. It is true, the single most profitable pricing decision any company can make is to adopt value-based pricing. Now value-based pricing is hard to do, but it has a really simple meaning. It means charge what your customers are willing to pay. If you had the ability to read your customer's mind and you knew exactly the most that they would pay for your product, then you could charge that and you'd win the deal. And you couldn't have won it at a higher price. And if you charged a lower price, then you left money on the table. So that's absolutely the optimal approach. Of course, if our salespeople do a better job at communicating value, then we could increase how much our customers are willing to pay. So this isn't the whole deal, but understand the concept is, we want to be able to charge what our customers are willing to pay. And to do that, it's really an attitude inside our company. We should be thinking instead of, hey, we charge based on our costs and we charge based on our time. We charge based on the fact that prices or costs went up. All of these things can impact how much a customer is willing to pay, but the single thing that should be driving our pricing decisions is thinking really hard about the willingness to pay of our buyers. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| #CLASSIC Trash the Timesheet: Exploring Opportunities in Subscription Businesses with Ronald J. Baker | 25 Sep 2023 | 00:32:19 | |
Ronald J. Baker is the founder of VeraSage Institute, a reformed CPA and cost accountant who has changed his mind on the value of timesheets and cost accounting. His quest is to bury the billable hour and timesheets. He is also a radio talk-show Host, The Soul of Enterprise: Business in the Knowledge Economy heard on www.voiceamerica.com. In this episode, Ron let us know why he changed his mind when it comes to the use of timesheets when setting up pricing. Hear his reasoning about why you should also get rid of timesheets. He offers profound insights, as well as examples and explanations, into how certain pricing value and cost models are appropriate for particular industries.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
“Even if you’re a solo entrepreneur, have somebody else help you with pricing because it will put a spine in you and you won’t give yourself away.” – Ronald J. Baker
Topics Covered: 02:44 – Talking about four defenses for timesheets in relation to Pricing 04:41 – Taking into consideration the Cost of Goods Sold in setting the price 07:22 – Difference between a metric and measurement type of cost allocations 09:09 – Opportunity Cost and Sunk Cost 10:39 – Is time really considered in setting up pricing? 14:31 – Project management as a way of making better decisions in the future 15:47 – The best advantage of niching your expertise on 18:31 – The start of subscription pricing in the accounting world 21:30 – Insurance classified as subscription pricing 24:08 – What’s the best thing about hiring an accounting firm rather than accounting staff for your business 27:48 – His thoughts on cars leaning towards a subscription model 29:50 – Ron’s pricing advice
Key Takeaways: “Keep in mind that I don’t need to see timesheets to know your firm’s costs. I need to know, I need to see your GL, your income statement and I need to know what your labor and all of that is. I’d much rather track revenue per person or labor cost per person, profit per person in a professional firm because that’s a true measurement.” – Ron Baker “Even if they’re just starting out as a sole solo. Don’t have any employees. I still think they can put a price on things consistent with their opportunity cost and what they want, willingness to accept and function fine, and this is an integral part of this, as long as they step back after the job is completed and do an after-action review and learn from it.” – Ron Baker “If you’re niched, if you specialize, it’s much easier to know what something’s going to take once you build up some experience.” – Ron Baker “A subscription model is a way to lock customers in for life. So in value pricing to Oh you’re pricing, not the customer. And this is the subtle difference, but bear with me, you’re pricing the relationship and you're pricing the portfolio because you’re looking at it as a portfolio rather than a project or just a customer. You’re actually looking at the entire portfolio.” – Ron Baker “We’re too busy. I think we confuse being busy with being effective and being profitable. And I’ll see a correlation there.” – Ron Baker
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| Pricing Table Topics: Ace of Spades – Pricing Captures Value | 22 Sep 2023 | 00:02:02 | |
This one is the Ace of Spades from the Impact Pricing card deck. First, companies really do exist to create value for customers. Think about what you do as a business. Everything you do is to get a customer to pay you money. And the only reason a customer would ever pay you money is if you are delivering more value to them than they're receiving. And so, our entire company needs to be focused on how do we create more value for customers? How do we deliver more value? How do we communicate the value? But we spend all this time creating, communicating value, pricing is the one thing that we do that captures the value that we're able to create and communicate. So, when a buyer chooses to buy our product, they pay the price that we're asking, and that happens to be the transaction value. That's how we capture the value of what we deliver to our customers. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Blogcast: Pros and Cons of Price Variance | 20 Sep 2023 | 00:02:27 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 17, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/pros-and-cons-of-price-variance/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Customer-Centric Selling to Close More Deals with Carole Mahoney | 18 Sep 2023 | 00:31:46 | |
With a decade of experience as an author, speaker, coach, and trainer, Carole Mahoney helps entrepreneurs, founders, and salespeople grow their businesses with a collaborative and science-based sales formula. In this episode, Carole shares how to make an engaging and collaborative sales conversation that makes your potential buyers feel valued and heard. In doing so, you transform your sales conversations into positive and fruitful interactions.
What you will learn from this episode:
"Selling isn't something we do to other people. It's something we do with them. And I think that's a fundamental shift that we need to start making in sales." - Carole Mahoney
Topics Covered: 01:17 - Synopsis of her book 'Buyer First' 03:34 - The best way to look at sales 06:03 - Carole coaching Mark on sales 11:57 - A sales conversation role play between Mark and Carole 16:05 -What is the 'Question and Periods Game' that she used to throw phenomenal questions at Mark? 20:30 - How to do the sales call without having to 'sell you' but to 'help you' 22:55 - Carole's valuable thoughts on Mark's sales technique 26:18 - How to handle a reply to a client's question at the end of the sales call, 'What do you think the next step should be'? 27:15 - What you should not fail to ask towards the end of the sales conversation
Key Takeaways: "Selling isn't something we do to other people. It's something we do with them. And I think that's a fundamental shift that we need to start making in sales." - Carole Mahoney "The more you drill down into a specific answer, the more you make them think and the more they start to wonder, maybe I don't know the answer to that. And then you find the opportunity to be able to offer an insight to them when you find out what insight matters most to them." - Carole Mahoney "When we talk about what we think, dopamine gets released in our brain. And so dopamine is that pleasure center. Like, we want more of that. That's why so many of us tend to get into talking about what we know instead of asking more questions. If we can get our buyers to talk more than we do, they're getting the dopamine released in their brains and they feel good about the conversation." - Carole Mahoney "Knowing who else can say no or who else can say yes and who else is going to be impacted by this [decision] is a critical question to ask towards the end of a call for your next step." - Carole Mahoney
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| Blogcast: Defining Value | 15 Sep 2023 | 00:02:45 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 10, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/defining-value/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Blogcast: Which Business Do You Want? | 13 Sep 2023 | 00:01:59 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 3, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/which-business-do-you-want/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Navigating Pricing Systems and Value-Based Selling in SaaS with Mac Kremer | 22 Jul 2024 | 00:31:35 | |
Mac Kremer leads the pricing strategy practice at K1 Investment Management. He is experienced in B2B SaaS investing and value creation work. In this episode, Mac shares strategies for growing SaaS businesses through price increases, upsells, cross-sells, and increased usage. It discusses the complexities of implementing pricing systems and emphasizes the importance of flexibility and understanding your pricing model. Additionally, it highlights the need to educate sales teams on value-based selling to reduce discounting and improve sales effectiveness.
Why you have to check out today’s podcast:
"Sit down with whoever's responsible for pricing, decide to set up a committee and a cadence and just start talking about it more and more." - Mac Kremer
Topics Covered: 01:35 - How Mac found himself in pricing 02:42 - Describing his role at a private equity firm as both an advisor and consultant 03:38 - Discussing the importance of customer conversations in understanding value propositions 05:47 - Explaining that value can also include benefits beyond profit 07:28 - Similarities and differences between B2B and B2C purchasing decisions 08:49 - Using ROI calculators and the ability of sales reps to contextualize ROI within the business's specific goals 09:56 - How ownership of pricing in a company depends on its stage of development 14:01 - Importance of forecasting and budgeting for pricing activities 16:00 - Understanding the sources of revenue growth highlighting the four ways to grow a customer: Win, Keep, Grow 19:49 - What to focus on when it comes to net revenue retention 21:35 - Variety of pricing systems used and how it depends on the complexity of pricing models used 23:55 - The complexities of implementing and managing pricing systems as companies grow 25:57 - Helping salespeople understand and communicate value 29:06 - Mac's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "Customer conversations are so critical to understanding the value proposition of your solution, and where you kind of see your customer's perceiving value before you even start to talk about price." - Mac Kremer "The best place to start when you're having customer conversations is, you can go in and you can kind of engineer the true value calculator, the EVC, the economic value to the customer. But I think it's also just understanding their perception of the value that they're receiving. Because I think value comes in a lot of different forms, even outside of just profit." - Mac Kremer "A lot depends on the complexity of your pricing model when you go to think about what system we should be using?" - Mac Kremer
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| Double Your Price, Boost Sales, and Skyrocket Profitability! with David Falzani | 11 Sep 2023 | 00:31:25 | |
David Falzani is a CEO at Polaris Associates and a Professor at Nottingham University. In this episode, David discusses the strategy for driving higher pricing by understanding the value delivered to customers. He also dispels the myths surrounding the notion that high pricing lowers sales, sharing the results of experiments conducted with various companies that prove otherwise.
What you will learn from this episode:
"Think dynamically about price and do it often." - David Falzani
Topics Covered: 01:42 - Expounding on 'sustainable wealth creation' 02:54 - What caught his interest in pricing 04:36 - Three reasons why underpricing exist 06:48 - Emotional baggage and fear that comes with underpricing 08:13 - Frequency of price changes and increase 09:37 - 12 exercise the book suggests you can do to revisit your pricing strategies 12:13 - What makes companies lose confidence in pricing higher 14:37 - How to be profitable without chasing price all the time 17:01 - A case of a perfect example of understanding the relationship of pricing and customer value: Apple versus Android 18:21 - Why double your price? [And experiment you can do] 22:59 - Light double your price [an experiment for the more risk -averse] 24:29 - Looking at the numbers in terms of feasibility of price increase 26:57 - Busting myths about pricing higher 29:24 - David's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "The frequency of revisiting your pricing decisions. Every time you revisit it, do something different, use a different piece of analysis." - David Falzani "Don't just go and revisit the same comparison to competitors or if you are using cost- plus, which I hope you're not. Think about the frequency at which you are reviewing those pricing decisions." - David Falzani "The more you look at pricing, the more questions that are raised, the more you start to educate yourself about your own customers, your clients, the market, competitors, and all those dynamics." - David Falzani
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| Blogcast: Pricing, Usage, and Value Metrics | 08 Sep 2023 | 00:03:01 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on July 27, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/pricing-usage-and-value-metrics/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: Joker 2 – Buyers may not Measure Value in Dollars | 06 Sep 2023 | 00:02:43 | |
This one is the Joker 2 from the Selling Value card deck. Almost always when we're dealing with B2B customers, B2B business, value can be measured in additional profit. And that's one of the things I love about B2B business and pricing, is because we know our price has to be related to how much additional profit will they make when they use our product, or when they use our product relative to a competitor's product. But it turns out, sometimes, buyers inside our customers don't really care about profit. Imagine that you're selling a piece of medical equipment and you're talking to a doctor in a big hospital. Now the doctor actually doesn't care how much additional profit you're going to make the hospital. There's an administrator someplace who cares a lot about how much additional profit you're going to make the hospital. And so, we still need to understand the profit side of this conversation. But from that doctor's perspective, they couldn't care less about profit. What do they care about? They care about the quality of the care for the patient. They care about efficacy rates. They care about how long the procedure might take. Things that really affect their world and things that matter to them. What we want to be able to do then, is as we go through our value conversations with a doctor, put value in the perspective of what that doctor cares about. So, it's not always profit, a lot of times it is, but we need to understand what each buyer truly cares about and talk about value from that perspective. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Master Pricing Strategies with Data with Sebastian Baier | 04 Sep 2023 | 00:21:43 | |
Sebastian Baier is the founder of Buynomics, an AI for ultimate customer-centric RGM decisions- in one SaaS solution. In this episode, Sebastian discusses how Buynomics' AI utilizes vast amounts of consumer behavior data to generate virtual customers, enabling the implementation of optimal pricing strategies.
What you will learn from this episode:
"Collect data however ugly it might look." - Sebastian Baier
Topics Covered: 01:12 - What got him into pricing 02:47 - Buynomics and what it does 04:41 - Understanding customer simulation and segmentation in the way Buynomics work 08:03 - Talking about segments and distribution densities 12:24 - How Buynomics helps provide what-if analyses for pricing strategies 13:29 - Creating customer models for B2B when there are not enough data available 17:28 - Sebastian's thoughts on Mark's suggested solution for B2C clients 19:11 - Salesperson as a value driver for B2B customer simulation 19:48 - Sebastian's best pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "Even if you don't have great data [with B2B], you'll use the data because you have to have a model of the world." - Sebastian Baier “To make statistics work, you have to have a certain number of customers.” - Sebastian Baier "It's really very valuable just to start collecting the data, and look at them as you would as a consultant.” - Sebastian Baier
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| Blogcast: Why Do They Buy? | 01 Sep 2023 | 00:02:46 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on July 20, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/why-do-they-buy/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: Joker 1 – An Indicator of Willingness to Pay | 30 Aug 2023 | 00:02:37 | |
This one is the Joker 1 from the Selling Value card deck. You heard earlier that there are really three types of buyer's value journeys. Those happen to be analytical, relationship, and trust. In the analytical relationship, there's typically a lower level person who's doing a lot of side by side comparison between your product and a competitor's product, and our buyers are by far the most price sensitive in that situation. Or we could go all the way to the trust journey, and that is where they come to us. They ask us, "Hey, what do you do? How do you help us solve our problems?" They never even look at a competitive alternative. And in that situation, they're the least price sensitive. The relationship journey is the one in the middle, where people would come to us and say, "Hey, how do you help us solve our problem?" We guide them. They build a great relationship. They really like us. And then they say, "Yeah, but we have to go look at competitive alternatives." We've built up enough goodwill and probably tweaked their thinking that we have the competitive advantage. And so, they're not going to be as price sensitive as they would be if they were in a relationship journey. But they're still more price sensitive than it was just a trust journey. So, you could think of these three different journeys (the analytical, relationship, and trust) is how our customers go learn about the value of our products. But at the same time, it's how price sensitive are they going to be when it's time to negotiate the price. It's really important that we understand which journey each buyer is on. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| The Relationship between Customer Value and Pricing Strategies with Ian Campbell | 28 Aug 2023 | 00:32:00 | |
Ian Campbell is the author of Wall Street Journal Best Seller "The Value Sale". As Chief Executive Officer of Nucleus Research he is responsible for the company’s investigative research approach, product set, and overall corporate direction. He is a recognized expert on the return on investment (ROI) and total cost of ownership (TCO) analysis of technology and has written and presented extensively on a range of organizational topics and the importance of matching technology to business organizational objectives. In this episode, Ian shares how you can create optimal pricing by understanding how customers use your product and find value in them.
What you will learn from this episode:
“Look at the customer value, how is the customer achieving value from your product and price according to that.” - Ian Campbell
Topics Covered: 01:42 - How he got into pricing 02:23 - What Nucleus Research is all about 03:26 - Understanding value with how customers use the product rather than vendor claims 05:20 - Defining Value 06:48 - The challenge with quantifying ROI with non-monetary value [customers' happiness] 09:00 - Thoughts on Mark's statement about B2B being more cognizant of value they want to receive 10:05 - Translating 'happier employees' into quantifiable terms 11:19 - Selling risk and who bears the most burden in dealing with security threats 15:32 - What's it like selling for emotional reasons 19:14 - How emotional decisions relate to Danny Kahneman's decision-making theories 20:29 - Why he uses the three-year horizon [but what if a client insist on using a 5-year time frame] 24:00 - Why there are only three value propositions you can derive from 26:15 - Helping people [existing and new customers] find value in your product 28:22 - How to structure your conversation that people understands and find value in your product 29:50 - Ian’s pricing advice
Key Takeaways: "Technology is around delivering value, not necessarily what's the best, but what's the best for you and understanding that." - Ian Campbell "When you talk about value, we look at value in four different categories, and there are value categories that are for instance happier employees. And that's not something I can necessarily quantify, but for a customer and for a company, that could be something very, very valuable for them and that could be their objective." - Ian Campbell "Today, more than ever, it's important to draw a link between what you sell and how you deliver bottom line benefits. Otherwise, you're going to have a tougher time beating out not just your competitors, but all of the other projects they could be doing." - Ian Campbell "If you're selling with value, realize that value is a tool to help you sell. Value is not a consulting project, don't turn it into a consulting project. Turn it into a tool that helps you close the deal." - Ian Campbell
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| Blogcast: It’s Too Expensive! | 25 Aug 2023 | 00:02:41 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on July 13, 2023, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/its-too-expensive/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: 2 of Diamonds – Involve Finance with Monitoring the Value-based KPIs. | 23 Aug 2023 | 00:02:25 | |
This one is the 2 of Diamonds from the Selling Value card deck. I'm often asked who should own pricing, and one of the departments that often comes up is finance. And of course, I'm not a huge fan of finance owning pricing. And the biggest reason is finance doesn't truly understand the value of our products. Usually that's going to be someone in product management, product marketing, or even sales, which I'm not a fan of them owning pricing either. However, finance so much wants to be involved with pricing. It's so crucial to their projections. It's so crucial to company growth, which they care a lot about. They really want to be involved with pricing, even though they don't understand value. So, how do we get them involved in pricing? That's pretty simple. Finance has a bunch of quant people. They have access to every piece of data inside the entire company, and they have the desire to make us or help us do better in our pricing. And so, let's figure out what are the KPIs, the key performance indicators, that we really want to track inside our company. And let's ask finance to help track those, keep us on track, make sure that we don't see any anomalies. We know what the trends are. Finance is a fantastic department to help us manage our KPIs. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Discover How to Know Your Value with Amy Riley | 21 Aug 2023 | 00:27:42 | |
Amy L. Riley is an internationally renowned speaker, author and leadership development consultant. She’s worked with organizations such as Deloitte, Cisco Systems and Aon Hewitt and has over 20 years of experience working with leaders at all levels. In this episode, Amy shares effective ways of identifying your strengths, finding solutions to people's problems, and quantifying the results of your solutions. By doing so, you can accurately assess your ability to bring about transformation for your clients and determine your true worth.
What you will learn from this episode:
"Encourage leaders to get feedback all the time." - Amy Riley
Topics Covered: 00:57 - What Amy is helping people with 02:09 - The value you bring--what's your worth? 04:22 - Best means to identify your strengths 06:49 - How does feedback benefit you as a leader and how to deal with self-delusion? 09:49 - Figure out your leadership legacy 10:52 - Fighting to be right versus fighting to be effective 11:49 - The thing with leaders admitting their mistakes 12:43 - What is a pivot and why pivot? 13:35 - The easy ways to find out where your strengths lie 14:50 - How to develop effective people skills 17:42 - Why the need to be open to feedback 20:00 - Amy sharing what her strengths and what problems she helps solve 24:22 -The potential outcome and its financial value that can be attained with Amy's expertise
Key Takeaways: “The value that we bring is inherent in our strengths." - Amy Riley "When we're looking to that leadership legacy for guidance, then we act bigger and bolder than any of our normal human considerations that might hold us back." - Amy Riley "If you do find yourself in those moments where you're fighting to be right instead of fighting to be effective, do give yourself some compassion, because we're human beings, and that's a human tendency.” - Amy Riley
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| Blogcast: The Price is NEVER Right! | 19 Jul 2024 | 00:02:53 | |
This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on May 30, 2024, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/the-price-is-never-right/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: 2 of Clubs – Salespeople with Authority to Discount | 18 Aug 2023 | 00:02:34 | |
This one is the 2 of Clubs from the Selling Value card deck. Salespeople are going to use every single tool they have available to them. Absolutely, they're going to use value selling if we've taught them how, and they understand, and they're doing a great job. But even if they're using value selling, it's very easy for them to offer discounts. And there's this attitude or belief that offering discounts helps close a deal faster. And maybe it does. Maybe when a customer or a buyer asks you for a discount, it takes longer to say no and explain why. And we could have just said yes and close the deal and we're done. Wouldn't that be great if it worked that way? But here's the key. Every dollar that we discount comes straight off of our profit. We still have to cover all of our costs, and so our margin just got shrunk by more than our revenue did on a percentage basis. So, if we want our salespeople to not rely on price, we have to make it painful for salespeople to offer discounts. How do you do that? Create a compensation plan that as they give bigger discounts, the percentage or the size of their deal goes down faster than the revenue goes down because salespeople are incentivized to close deals as fast as possible. And we want to make sure they're incentivized to close deals quickly at the highest possible price. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Pricing Table Topics: 2 of Hearts – The Best Response to an RFP Is Not to Bid | 16 Aug 2023 | 00:02:39 | |
This one is the 2 of Hearts from the Selling Value card deck. When you get an RFP, you have to decide, are you going to bid or not. Believe it or not, that's actually a decision you get to make. You do not have to respond to every RFP that comes through. And my advice, if you are not involved in the creation of the RFP, or at the very least, if you cannot have conversations with the decision makers or executives of the group who created that RFP, you have a very low chance of winning. And so, the time and energy that you spend replying to the RFP makes you feel like you're doing work, but odds are really good you're not going to win that deal. There's somebody else that has already built a relationship with the client, understands exactly what the client wants, is able to create a response to that RFP that fits them almost perfectly. They've built the rapport so the client's going to give them the benefit of the doubt no matter what. If you're going in blind to an RFP, you're probably not going to win. Let's test that. From here on out, every time you respond to an RFP, just keep track. Did I help write this? Do I know the leaders? Do I get conversations with the executives? And if the answers are no, and you go ahead and bid, see how many of those you actually win. And I will bet you the percentage of those is so low you realize it just isn't worth your time to bid RFPs where you're not already involved. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.
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| Challenges of Pricing AI with Steven Forth | 14 Aug 2023 | 00:32:14 | |
Steven Forth is Ibbaka’s Co-Founder, CEO, and Partner. Ibbaka is a strategic pricing advisory firm. He was CEO of LeveragePoint Innovations Inc., a SaaS business designed to help companies create and capture value. In this episode, Steven discusses the challenges of pricing AI, primarily due to the limited availability of data. He emphasizes the importance of shortening the time required to build value models in order to easily establish pricing.
What you will learn from this episode:
"Once you have a good value model, coming up with pricing is maybe not trivial but it's certainly much easier." - Steven Forth
Topics Covered: 01:15 - Discussing complaints about AI through the Value Models 07:57 - Steven's added thoughts to Mark's suggested solution to achieve pricing transparency [limitations in creating value models] 11:43 - The need for more trainings for language models used in pricing 14:25 - What is Copilot by Microsoft and what it is capable of doing that can help salespeople 17:04 - How is Copilot might disrupt the market especially Google Workspace user 17:50 - Survey of people's willingness to pay $30 a user for Copilot [and whose group is more willing to pay more] 22:20 - How were the users segmented, are they all Copilot users, and finding out people's reaction to AI 23:37 - The amazing capabilities of these two AIs 24:57 - What could happen if Mark Stiving will use AI to write his fourth book [The need for great prompt engineering] 28:12 - How are AIs going to be priced 29:59 - Microsoft Copilot as a 'Will I' question
Key Takeaways: "If you can build a value model and validate a value model, then you can fairly easily, I believe, derive pricing from the value model." - Steven Forth "We should be able to customize a language model based on our training and integrate mathematical AI from a place such as Wolfram/Alpha to greatly scale up our ability to build value models so that we could legitimately do a thousand a year or so." - Steven Forth
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