We've finally gone international (well, out of North America) this week when we bring on Florian Zeh, the man behind the four-string for some amazing bands like Rodha, OK Wait, and Them Falls.

We dig into his past and find out what drew him into music, what interested him in playing bass, the Hamburg scene, and so much more. We even discuss sharing vocal duties in Them Falls.

Florian is not only a talented musician that has produced some amazing music, but he's also a real stand-up guy and had some great stories to share. Enjoy this discussion.

The two songs used in this episode are off the sophomore album by OK Wait - "Signal":

Damage

Horses

Check out Them Falls here:

https://themfalls.bandcamp.com/album/bites-ep

Check out all things RODHA here:

Bandcamp: https://rodha.bandcamp.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/weareRODHA

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wearerodha/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@rodhaband⁩

And OK Wait here:

all current links: http://linktr.ee/okwait

Bandcamp: https://okwait.bandcamp.com/album/signal

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/okwait.band

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/okwait.band

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@okwait⁩

Unreleased RODHA track here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHeOdJ9r2XI

We brought Thommy Browne back to discuss his criminally lesser-known project Chime Hours. This time around, instead of focusing just on the album, we actually dedicate the entire episode to a discussion of all things Chime Hours - find out how they formed, what their writing and recording was like, songs that didn't make the album, dissolution of the band, and so much more.

Thommy once again brought his straightforward and direct approach to the conversation but also brought in some humor and was a wonderful storyteller as he recalled all of the things that made Chime Hours so unique and interesting.

The two songs used in this episode are (obviously) taken from the Chime Hours EP

"The Walking Man"

"Bad Music Is Killing Home Downloading"

Unfortunately, the CD is sold out but you can still get the album (and all the other amazing Noise Pollution releases) here:

https://noisepollution.bandcamp.com/album/chime-hours

Follow these links:

https://highwayeyes.bandcamp.com/

https://ldb502.bigcartel.com/product/highway-eyes-west-texas-lottery-7

https://bythegraceofgod.bandcamp.com/album/colliding-tribes

https://www.indecisionrecords.com/products/819925-automatic-the-limits-of-control

https://miracledrug.bandcamp.com/

In the back-half of our discussion with Nicky, we do a deep dive onto all things related to the complete collection by Christ - simply titled "Complete." We're able to dive in to every single song that Christ ever recorded whether in demo form or on proper releases.We go deep into how Nicky approached guitar and how the band approached music in general and putting together the lyrics for the songs. Plus as a bonus we get to find out the origin of the lyric for "Song Number Three" which was a personal bonus for me.This conversation bummed me out even more I never got to see CHRIST live.The songs used in this episode are both taken from "Complete" (duh)LibrarianMitchellGet your CHRIST merch (records and shirts) here:https://skyvalleyrecords.com/collections/all/christOr buy the complete CHRIST collection digitally here:https://christcomplete.bandcamp.com/album/completeBuy some of Nicky's records LIVE here:https://www.whatnot.com/user/yonicky?sender_id=2133880&sharing_channel=copyLink

For episode 031 we brought on a guest I've "known" (in name only) for close to 30 years but someone I've never actually spoken with until we recorded this episode. Nicky has been an integral part of the Philadelphia scene for a long time and has been in and worked with a ton of influential bands throughout his storied career. He sat down with us to discuss those bands, share stories, and explain how he got involved in the punk scene and what drew him to guitar. Get your CHRIST merch (records and shirts) here:https://skyvalleyrecords.com/collections/all/christOr buy the complete CHRIST collection digitally here:https://christcomplete.bandcamp.com/album/completeBuy some of Nicky's records LIVE here:https://www.whatnot.com/user/yonicky?sender_id=2133880&sharing_channel=copyLinkThe two songs on this episode are:Prema - "Schaffer" taken from the album Drivel

Memorial Day - "Aimless Friend" taken from the album A Song With Evil Meaning

In the back-half of our discussion with Neil, we do a deep dive onto all things related to "The Fear Is Unsafe." As a bonus, we also discuss the recording of "Rip Myself Off (Again) which was recorded during the same session (along with a bunch of other yet-to-be-released songs) and everything that went into the album.

You'll find out Neil's approach to songwriting and recording, some of the meanings behind the album, how Neil's politics and the shape of the world help shape the songs, and so much more.

This album left us waiting for the next batch of songs to get released since Rollo is still actively working on their follow-up album.

The song used in this episode was taken from "The Fear Is Unsafe" (duh)

In Name Only

Neil and his music can be found everywhere. For all his Bandcamps:

Rollo Tomasi - https://rollotomasi.bandcamp.com/

Gauge - https://gauge.bandcamp.com/

Traluma - https://traluma.bandcamp.com/

rollotomasi.com

linktr.ee/rollotomasi

shakefork.com

https://linktr.ee/shakefork

Picture credit goes to Neil for the band and Jeff Larsen for the Neil mugshot

In the back-half of our discussion with Neil, we do a deep dive onto all things related to "The Fear Is Unsafe." As a bonus, we also discuss the recording of "Rip Myself Off (Again) which was recorded during the same session (along with a bunch of other yet-to-be-released songs) and everything that went into the album.

You'll find out Neil's approach to songwriting and recording, some of the meanings behind the album, how Neil's politics and the shape of the world help shape the songs, and so much more.

This album left us waiting for the next batch of songs to get released since Rollo is still actively working on their follow-up album.

The songs used in this episode are both taken from "The Fear Is Unsafe" (duh)

In Name Only

Rip Myself Off Again

Neil and his music can be found everywhere. For all his Bandcamps:

Rollo Tomasi - https://rollotomasi.bandcamp.com/

Gauge - https://gauge.bandcamp.com/

Traluma - https://traluma.bandcamp.com/

rollotomasi.com

linktr.ee/rollotomasi

shakefork.com

https://linktr.ee/shakefork

Picture credit goes to Neil for the band and Jeff Larsen for the Neil mugshot

Sticking with the Chicago theme, for episode 029 we bring Neil Sandler onto the show to talk all things him, his band, and Chicago. Neil has some really interesting stories to share across his 30+ years of being a musician across a bunch of bands.

We discuss the other band with the "same name" (spelled differently) and the importance of selecting the right band name, especially in the internet era, to make that name stand out for the purposes of searching.

It's always great to get guests on that played in bands I loved seeing live back in the day and Neil certainly doesn't disappoint.

The song in this episode are:

Red Villain - Horse Traveler (from the album "Into the City's Arms"

Neil and his music can be found everywhere. For all his Bandcamps:

Rollo Tomasi - https://rollotomasi.bandcamp.com/

Gauge - https://gauge.bandcamp.com/

Traluma - https://traluma.bandcamp.com/

rollotomasi.com

linktr.ee/rollotomasi

shakefork.com

https://linktr.ee/shakefork

Picture credit Karin Konz

Sticking with the Chicago theme, for episode 029 we bring Neil Sandler onto the show to talk all things him, his band, and Chicago. Neil has some really interesting stories to share across his 30+ years of being a musician across a bunch of bands.

We discuss the other band with the "same name" (spelled differently) and the importance of selecting the right band name, especially in the internet era, to make that name stand out for the purposes of searching.

It's always great to get guests on that played in bands I loved seeing live back in the day and Neil certainly doesn't disappoint.

The songs in this episode are:

Red Villain - Horse Traveler (from the album "Into the City's Arms"

Gauge - Soothe (fom the compilation "II")

Neil and his music can be found everywhere. For all his Bandcamps:

Rollo Tomasi - https://rollotomasi.bandcamp.com/

Gauge - https://gauge.bandcamp.com/

Traluma - https://traluma.bandcamp.com/

rollotomasi.com

linktr.ee/rollotomasi

shakefork.com

https://linktr.ee/shakefork

Picture credit Karin Konz

TJ comes back for the second episode where we do a deep dive into Divideo By Zero's last (and final??? We hope not) album "Answer To No One." We discuss how the city of Chicago was the official fifth member of the band and how TJ feels about it now reflecting back.This is a must-listen for everyone as this album has it all. Watch or listen in and discover all the ingredients that came together to make this banger.The two songs used on this episode are (obviously) both taken from Answer To No One:"Northern Lights"

TJ comes back for the second episode where we do a deep dive into Divideo By Zero's last (and final??? We hope not) album "Answer To No One." We discuss how the city of Chicago was the official fifth member of the band and how TJ feels about it now reflecting back.This is a must-listen for everyone as this album has it all. Watch or listen in and discover all the ingredients that came together to make this banger.The two songs used on this episode are (obviously) both taken from Answer To No One:"Northern Lights""Timber"

We sit down with all-around Chicago guy TJ Milici guitarist and vocalist extraordinaire to find out more about him. We discuss cutting his teeth in the Chicago scene and the show that changed his life forever and the immediate choice he made afterwards.TJ had so many interesting stories and experiences and it was great to listen as we walked the path through his past with him.To download the "lost" Thrillage album, go here:https://web.archive.org/web/20220420004632/http://thrillage.net/thrillage.zipThe two songs from this episode areLogan's Loss - "Sands of Time" taken from the EP Riot Like

We sit down with all-around Chicago guy TJ Milici guitarist and vocalist extraordinaire to find out more about him. We discuss cutting his teeth in the Chicago scene and the show that changed his life forever and the immediate choice he made afterwards.TJ had so many interesting stories and experiences and it was great to listen as we walked the path through his past with him.To download the "lost" Thrillage album, go here:https://web.archive.org/web/20220420004632/http://thrillage.net/thrillage.zipThe two songs from this episode areLogan's Loss - "Sands of Time" taken from the EP Riot LikeThrillage - "Replay" taken from Thrill 'Em All

Eric and Dan are super excited to bring you the first part of our conversation with Thommy Browne Louisville drummer extraordinaire for Automatic, The Enkindels, By the Grace of God, Black Cross, Chime Hours, Highway Eyes, and countless other awesome bands. We cover all things Louisville with mentions of Krazy Fest, initial Records, and the story behind The Initial All-Stars. If you want to find out if Thommy enjoys double bass with his drumming this is an interview for you. Enjoy part one and come back next week for our deep dive on a surprising choice of his excellent discography.

The two songs used in this episode are:

Highway Eyes - "West Texas Lottery" from the West Texas Lottery 7"

Miracle Drug - "War Within" from the LP How Much Is Enough

Follow these links:

https://highwayeyes.bandcamp.com/

https://ldb502.bigcartel.com/product/highway-eyes-west-texas-lottery-7

https://bythegraceofgod.bandcamp.com/album/colliding-tribes

https://www.indecisionrecords.com/products/819925-automatic-the-limits-of-control

https://miracledrug.bandcamp.com/

LINK TO TICKETS FOR THE APRIL 4 SHOW IN KANSAS CITY WITH HEELS / CONFLICTS / THE CASKET LOTTERY / THE ESOTERIC here: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/84461063/the-esoteric-kansas-city-warehouse-on-broadway?partner_id=100 Stevie comes back for the second episode where we do a deep dive into The Esoteric's last (and final??? We hope not) album "Subverter." Find the connecting thread from our very first episode with Steve Tulipana as he provided guest vocals and everything else you can imagine. We discuss how the band ultimately led to the band's hiatus and how little they were able to play live shows after its release. This is a must-listen for everyone as this album has it all. Watch or listen in and discover all the ingredients that came together to make this banger. The Esoteric Spotify link is here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1z9jhO27qA8sIgwR4aZUAm And the Esoteric Instagram is here: https://www.instagram.com/theesotericks/ The song used on this episode is (obviously) both taken from Subverter: "Don't Waste Guts (featuring Steve Tulipana)"

LINK TO TICKETS FOR THE APRIL 4 SHOW IN KANSAS CITY WITH HEELS / CONFLICTS / THE CASKET LOTTERY / THE ESOTERIC here: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/84461063/the-esoteric-kansas-city-warehouse-on-broadway?partner_id=100 Stevie comes back for the second episode where we do a deep dive into The Esoteric's last (and final??? We hope not) album "Subverter." Find the connecting thread from our very first episode with Steve Tulipana as he provided guest vocals and everything else you can imagine. We discuss how the band ultimately led to the band's hiatus and how little they were able to play live shows after its release. This is a must-listen for everyone as this album has it all. Watch or listen in and discover all the ingredients that came together to make this banger. The Esoteric Spotify link is here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1z9jhO27qA8sIgwR4aZUAm And the Esoteric Instagram is here: https://www.instagram.com/theesotericks/ The two songs used on this episode are (obviously) both taken from Subverter: "Destroy, She Said" "Don't Waste Guts (featuring Steve Tulipana)"

LINK TO TICKETS FOR THE APRIL 4 SHOW IN KANSAS CITY WITH HEELS / CONFLICTS / THE CASKET LOTTERY / THE ESOTERIC here: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/84461063/the-esoteric-kansas-city-warehouse-on-broadway?partner_id=100 We sit down with vocalist virtuoso and all-around great guy Stevie Cruz to find out more about him. We learn about his early days of hanging out with The Esoteric and being a fan before he joined, the lifecycle of that band, the formation of Hammerlord, and Stevie's newest band HEELS. Stevie brings with him a ton of good stories and has been a fixture of the Kansas City / Lawrence scene for a long time and brings his wealth of backstory with him to the conversation. If you like heavy music and great conversation, this episode is for you. Listen to some Heels music here: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/heels1/bring-them-to-heels Follow Heels on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/heelskc/ For Hammerlord, stream on Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7fPReQt4icFpZxbUgd77d8 Or follow their Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/hammerlord_official/ Buy the Hammerlord 2LP here: https://www.hammerlord.org/store/p/sodium-pbwwe Or buy their digital music here: https://hammerlord.bandcamp.com/album/wreck-shop The Esoteric Spotify link is here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1z9jhO27qA8sIgwR4aZUAm And the Esoteric Instagram is here: https://www.instagram.com/theesotericks/ The song from this episode is Hammerlord - "Wreck Shop" taken from the album Wreck Shop

LINK TO TICKETS FOR THE APRIL 4 SHOW IN KANSAS CITY WITH HEELS / CONFLICTS / THE CASKET LOTTERY / THE ESOTERIC here: https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/84461063/the-esoteric-kansas-city-warehouse-on-broadway?partner_id=100 We sit down with vocalist virtuoso and all-around great guy Stevie Cruz to find out more about him. We learn about his early days of hanging out with The Esoteric and being a fan before he joined, the lifecycle of that band, the formation of Hammerlord, and Stevie's newest band HEELS. Stevie brings with him a ton of good stories and has been a fixture of the Kansas City / Lawrence scene for a long time and brings his wealth of backstory with him to the conversation. If you like heavy music and great conversation, this episode is for you. Listen to some Heels music here: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/heels1/bring-them-to-heels Follow Heels on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/heelskc/ For Hammerlord, stream on Spotify here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7fPReQt4icFpZxbUgd77d8 Or follow their Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/hammerlord_official/ Buy the Hammerlord 2LP here: https://www.hammerlord.org/store/p/sodium-pbwwe Or buy their digital music here: https://hammerlord.bandcamp.com/album/wreck-shop The Esoteric Spotify link is here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1z9jhO27qA8sIgwR4aZUAm And the Esoteric Instagram is here: https://www.instagram.com/theesotericks/ The two songs from this episode are Hammerlord - "Wreck Shop" taken from the album Wreck Shop The Esoteric - "Your New Burden" taken from "With the Sureness of Sleepwalking

Bassist virtuoso Shane Mehling returns for the back-half of the conversation where we dig deep into all things "Fontanelle" by Great Falls. Shane discusses how the reintroduction of rules helped shape the album, the creative path he and Demian took to record drums in lieu of a full-time drummer, and how pleased he was (and is) with the end result.

It's unfortunately an album that slipped under my radar but this conversation rectified that in a *HUGE* way! Enjoy. The song in this episode was (obviously) sourced from Fontanelle - "Send To Nothing." Follow Great Falls on Instagram @GreatFallsNoise

Bassist virtuoso Shane Mehling returns for the back-half of the conversation where we dig deep into all things "Fontanelle" by Great Falls. Shane discusses how the reintroduction of rules helped shape the album, the creative path he and Demian took to record drums in lieu of a full-time drummer, and how pleased he was (and is) with the end result.

It's unfortunately an album that slipped under my radar but this conversation rectified that in a *HUGE* way! Enjoy. Both songs in this episode were (obviously) sourced from Fontanelle - "Send To Nothing" and "The Bank Agnostic." Follow Great Falls on Instagram @GreatFallsNoise

For this episode, we sit down with master bassist Shane Mehling to discuss absolutely everything. We find out why Shane originally picked up the bass, his early years playing in local bands, his audition for Playing Enemy which precipitated his move to Seattle, and everything else imaginable. Shane is not only knowledgeable but he also brings his thoughts to the conversation. It's a great talk that provides some incredible insight into one of hardcore's most creative and unconventional bassists. Follow the exploits of Great Falls on Instagram at @GreatFallsNoise The song from this episode is "Destroyed Footage" which was a bonus track for the special edition of Objects Without Pain.

For this episode, we sit down with master bassist Shane Mehling to discuss absolutely everything. We find out why Shane originally picked up the bass, his early years playing in local bands, his audition for Playing Enemy which precipitated his move to Seattle, and everything else imaginable. Shane is not only knowledgeable but he also brings his thoughts to the conversation. It's a great talk that provides some incredible insight into one of hardcore's most creative and unconventional bassists. Follow the exploits of Great Falls on Instagram at @GreatFallsNoise The two songs from this episode are "Destroyed Footage" which was a bonus track for the special edition of Objects Without Pain and "And It Can't Be Stopped" taken from Fever Shed.

This is the *FULL* episode To buy the double-pack of both of Matt's books: https://www.theimpossiblecompany.com/store/md3yle6dko1fvj8arvjvk6325p218u To buy just "Work Songs": https://www.theimpossiblecompany.com/store/work-songs-book We sit down with Matt Johnson to do a deep dive on all things related to the lyrics and meaning behind the songs on Preacher Gone To Texas' "Choice vs. Chance."Matt talks about how he believes this is one of his "purest" releases and goes into topics like vocal training, lyrics, how the album came together, and so much more.Whether you're a new listener to Preacher Gone To Texas or a lifelong fan, you're going to want to hear the deep dive into the "secret sauce" that made "Choice vs. Chance" the banger it is. Both songs were taken from "Choice vs Chance" Handshake To Heartbreak

Radials On Rumblestrips @matt.x.johnson

This is the *EDITED* episode To buy the double-pack of both of Matt's books: https://www.theimpossiblecompany.com/store/ md3yle6dko1fvj8arvjvk6325p218u To buy just "Work Songs": https://www.theimpossiblecompany.com/store/work-songs-book We sit down with Matt Johnson to do a deep dive on all things related to the lyrics and meaning behind the songs on Preacher Gone To Texas' "Choice vs. Chance."Matt talks about how he believes this is one of his "purest" releases and goes into topics like vocal training, lyrics, how the album came together, and so much more.Whether you're a new listener to Preacher Gone To Texas or a lifelong fan, you're going to want to hear the deep dive into the "secret sauce" that made "Choice vs. Chance" the banger it is. The song was taken from "Choice vs Chance" Handshake To Heartbreak @matt.x.johnson

Louis-Charles was kind enough to come back and do a deep dive on the first album of any of his bands I ever heard - Never Hit Again's "Sinkers." We discuss self-releasing it as an album and everything that went into the creation of this album as a whole.

He went into some great details about the meaning behind some songs and where the lyrics came from as well as discussing the writing process that culminated into the production of this album.

As always, this is a solid conversation you won't want to miss.

Links galore!!!!

Dead Alright:

https://www.facebook.com/deadalright/

https://www.instagram.com/deadalrightpunk/

https://deadalright.bandcamp.com/

https://open.spotify.com/artist/16G30WibQvjBjpqgVwt4YN?si=jdVQNPNlT6meQfm5ZaxMdQ

Brand New Lungs:

https://www.facebook.com/brandnewlungs

https://www.instagram.com/brandnewlungsmtl

https://brandnewlungs.bandcamp.com/

Never Hit Again:

https://www.facebook.com/neverhitagain

https://www.instagram.com/neverhitagainpunkrock

https://neverhitagain.bandcamp.com

Both songs from this episode were taken from "Sinkers" (duh)

Blackout

Hello, I'm an Asshole

This is the *SHORTER* episode Follow Matt's exploits on Instagram - @matt.x.johnson For our first episode of 2025 we are excited to talk with Matt Johnson - the vocalist for two excellent hardcore/metalcore bands Preacher Gone to Texas and Ignite the Will. We cover the beginning of his music career growing up in Iowa and also his career post music working in government and as a published author of two novels (with a third on the way!)

Matt is a funny and intelligent guest and we think you will enjoy this one. Both songs on this episode were taken from the Preacher Gone To Texas EP "From the Heartland" Veil Of Comfort Barry, You're Dead

This is the *FULL* episode Follow Matt's exploits on Instagram - @matt.x.johnson For our first episode of 2025 we are excited to talk with Matt Johnson - the vocalist for two excellent hardcore/metalcore bands Preacher Gone to Texas and Ignite the Will. We cover the beginning of his music career growing up in Iowa and also his career post music working in government and as a published author of two novels (with a third on the way!)

Matt is a funny and intelligent guest and we think you will enjoy this one.

Both songs on this episode were taken from the Preacher Gone To Texas EP "From the Heartland" Veil Of Comfort Barry, You're Dead

To close out the year, Dan and Eric sit down and recap 2024 - we discuss all of our guests and what our plans are for the future of the show. We have some slight format changes for 2025 and we discuss some of those as well. Get to know the hosts of I'm the Band, Man a little better with this one. Come join us at our Discord! https://discord.gg/xu6xGPfyjv

We'll be back next week with another banger of an episode.

As we get ready to close out the year, here's a special episode of "I'm With the Band, Man" where we bring back Chuck Coffey not as just a musician discussing his own bands (although there is certainly a healthy helping of discussion for his time in Mail Order Children) but as a source of all knowledge. Ska has always been one of those genres that I was exposed to because it was tangential and punk-adjacent but I never gave it its due nor did I ever delve deep into its rich history. Thankfully, Chuck is here to change all that and while we focus mainly on ska's "third-wave," we also dig into its roots and how the waves progressed. As any long-time listener can expect, we do go off-track and bounce around a bit in this conversation, but I think after listening you'll walk away if not with a newfound respect for ska as a type of music, at least a deeper understanding of why its something that so many people cherish and hold dear and why the emerging fourth-wave is still going strong and how it remains a vibrant scene. It is always a treat to find a reason to get Chuck on the show to talk so we're privileged to get him back on and just talk shop for awhile. We sincerely hope you check out this unique episode. The song in the introduction is "Let Me Down" by Mail Order Children and can be downloaded for FREE here: https://mailorderchildren.bandcamp.com/album/anthology The song for the outro is a very special Chuck Coffey hit under his professional name of Charlie Continental and is entitled "Much Better" and features guest spots by Daryl Wilson / Ella Sugar / The Calgary Family Singers. Like so many of Charlie Continental's songs, this song was released as a benefit for a ton of good causes. It can be purchased at Bandcamp where you can name your own price here with the option to buy the physical flexi: https://charliecontinental.bandcamp.com/album/be-much-better-feat-daryl-wilson-ella-sugar-and-the-calgary-family-singers-benefit-track

OR directly from Snappy Little Numbers here: https://snappylittlenumbers.limitedrun.com/products/685702-charlie-continental-be-much-better-feat-daryl-wilson-ella-sugar-and-the-calgary-family-singers-flexi-disc-7

https://jupiterhearts.bandcamp.com/https://www.instagram.com/redhandplan/https://www.instagram.com/jupiterhearts22/https://equalvision.com/collections/by-the-grace-of-god We sit down with Dr. Rob to do a deep dive on all things related to the lyrics and meaning behind the songs on By the Grace Of God's "Perspective." Rob takes us on a journey through every song on the album, where he was at emotionally and mentally while the songs were being crafted, and his present feelings on them. If you're like us and you're a big fan of this seminal album, sit back and enjoy hearing a curated tour through the full album from front to back.

Thumbnail courtesy of Chris Higdon

https://jupiterhearts.bandcamp.com/ https://www.instagram.com/redhandplan/ https://www.instagram.com/jupiterhearts22/ https://equalvision.com/collections/by-the-grace-of-god We are very excited to bring you part one of our interview with Louisville punk royalty Dr. Rob Pennington. You may know him for fronting bands like Endpoint, By the Grace of God, Black Widows/Cross/God, and Jupiter Hearts. In this episode we discuss his long history in the music scene and also his passions outside of music.

You will enjoy his wedding story, how his partnership with Duncan Barlow started, and him reminiscing back on his career. Enjoy hearing from one of the nicest and most intelligent guys in hardcore. Thumbnail photo courtesy of JC Cary

Dan and I sit down with Damien to discuss all things Maida's "Renaissance In Reverse." We talk about how perfect the recording came out, their tour struggles for the album, and where the band might have gone had Maida continued. This is an album you should immediately check out if you're not intimately familiar and then listen as Damien discusses how it all came together.

We sit down with Damien Wendel of Maida to discuss all things music. We find out how he got into drums, the "fifth" member of Maida that helped with the home recording of "Remove the Funeral Attire" that resulted in an album that sounded like it was recorded in a studio, and so much more. As a consummate drumming professional (our first on the show!) Damien brings unique insight and experiences to the conversation. Enjoy!

https://www.patreon.com/demianjohnstonhttps://www.instagram.com/greatfallsnoise/https://greatfalls.bandcamp.com/ Part two of our conversation with Demian goes into minute detail about the Playing Enemy "I Was Your City" - we talk about how close he was to breaking up with Seattle and moving to New York, the two women that influenced the songwriting (and Demian's relative headspace) of the album. We discuss the release issues (going on the road without the CDs in hand) that plagued their tour and their soft break-up. Demian's stories are insightful and intelligent and you'll come away with a new understanding for a criminally underrated album. Enjoy!

https://www.patreon.com/demianjohnston https://www.instagram.com/greatfallsnoise/ https://greatfalls.bandcamp.com/ Eric and Dan sit down for a long conversation with Demian Johnston of Playing Enemy/Kiss it Goodbye/Hemmingway/Great Falls/AND SO MANY OTHERS and you won't want to miss it. Damian covers his history in the Seattle heavy music scene including an interesting part of the legendary band Deadguy's history. We discuss his artwork which is as unique as the music he's put out with his bands. Demian is funny and candid and we hope you enjoy the conversation.

Our second Canadian on the show but our first from that mysterious, French-speaking province of Québec, Louis-Charles comes on the show to talk about punk rock changed his life and turned him into a lifelong musician.

We discuss how Louis-Charles is essentially a one-man band and the pros and cons of working collaboratively with other musicians in a room compared to the creative process on his own.

In what is sure to be a theme on the show, we also discuss the financial complexities of touring in the United States while also recognizing the strong influence of American music being exported into other countries.

Louis-Charles had some great stories and, as always, made this episode amazing and a must-listen.

The two songs used in this episode are:

Brand New Lungs - "Dirty Streets" from the LP Like Wildfire

Dead Alright - "Groundhog Day" from the LP Dancing Through the End Of Days

Links galore!!!!

Dead Alright:

https://www.facebook.com/deadalright/

https://www.instagram.com/deadalrightpunk/

https://deadalright.bandcamp.com/

https://open.spotify.com/artist/16G30WibQvjBjpqgVwt4YN?si=jdVQNPNlT6meQfm5ZaxMdQ

Brand New Lungs:

https://www.facebook.com/brandnewlungs

https://www.instagram.com/brandnewlungsmtl

https://brandnewlungs.bandcamp.com/

Never Hit Again:

https://www.facebook.com/neverhitagain

https://www.instagram.com/neverhitagainpunkrock

https://neverhitagain.bandcamp.com

This is a solo episode where Matt sits down with Eric to discuss all things Former Thieves' "The Language That We Speak." We talk about Former Thieves running out of the gates on this album, the reception it was getting for live shows, and what the future may have (might still?) had in store for future music. Definitely worth a listen!

This is a solo episode where Matt sits down with Eric to discuss his musical journey from the scene elders in Iowa sharing the history and the ethics with him up through his life after Former Thieves. We discuss all sorts of interesting facts like soundproofing the practice space with disposed mattress cushions, Matt leaving Iowa after the band broke up, and his eventual return to the Midwest. We chart the musical direction the band would have gone on had Former Thieves not broken up (spoiler alert - they would've gone heavier) and his fond memories of his time in the band. Matt was a great conversationalist and you won't believe where his musical journey has taken him in his life right up to where he is now.

Nightjacket has an upcoming single release show for "My Only Heart" December 12 at Gold Diggers in Los Angeles. It will be released via Sonic Unyon Records. And the best news EVER!!!!! - Salem will be releasing a new song in early 2025 - Adam wrote the song and collaborated with two other Salem members - Jeremy Robertson and David Miller. I am so stoked to hear that when it comes out. Sit back and enjoy our deep dive with Adam D'Zurilla as we discuss everything that went into late-stage As Friends Rust, the evolution into Salem, and the six songs that were recorded that became their only release. You can hear Adam lament that his favorite song "Amphetamine Crush" was only available on the European edition, some of the more interesting early production decisions like throwing in some random ball-squeezing screams, and how living in the shadow of As Friends Rust created certain expectations for Salem when touring. As you can expect with Adam, he's open and honest and willing to share a ton of stories. Listening to this will change the way you appreciate Salem, we guarantee.

https://www.instagram.com/harvardandstone/ https://www.instagram.com/nightjacketsound/ You won't want to miss our interview with Adam D'Zurilla as we talk about everything from As Friends Rust to current the state of live music. Adam shared with us his reflection of being in As Friends Rust coming in to replace Damien Moyal on vocals covering an interesting chapter in that band's career. We go in depth on Salem and what Adam did post Salem going in a different musical direction with Nightjacket. Adam is a big baseball fan so we go over his love of the Dodgers with some fun discussion of the Chicago baseball teams. Adam also shares a refreshing perspective on the live music scene as he manages a venue called Harvest and Stone with a long discussion on how smaller independent bands can survive in today's environment. We really enjoyed his honest and candid opinion on all topics, and we believe you will too when you catch part one of our discussion with Adam D'Zurilla.

A Dog Between Us available at:https://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/a-dog-between-us-novel/The City, Awake available athttps://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/the-city-awake-a-novel-duncan-b-barlow/Guilt - Bardstown Ugly Box Reissuehttps://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM068Guilt Shirt - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/GuiltTeeDuncan solo album - Colony Collapse: https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM0117" - Nietzschean Holiday - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM054 Dan and Eric sit back down with Duncan to do a deep dive on all things "Bardstown Ugly Box." We discuss the original release, the tragedy that resulted in a hurried and less focused final product, and the eventual opportunity to fully remix and remaster and re-release on Mind Over Matter Records, pulling together two additional tracks and finding new life for the album. If you're like us and you're fascinated with the this album and its evolution, you won't want to miss this episode!

A Dog Between Us available at: https://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/a-dog-between-us-novel/ The City, Awake available at https://www.stalkinghorsepress.com/product/the-city-awake-a-novel-duncan-b-barlow/ Guilt - Bardstown Ugly Box Reissue https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM068 Guilt Shirt - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/GuiltTee Duncan solo album - Colony Collapse: https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM011 7" - Nietzschean Holiday - https://www.mindovermatterrecords.com/MOM054 Eric and Dan sit down with Duncan Barlow, a seminal figure in the history of the Louisville hardcore/punk scene to discuss all things Guilt, Step Down, Endpoint, and By the Grace of God. Duncan goes over his long career in music and we also touch on his literary career as he has published multiple novels and stories. Duncan is funny and open and doesn't hold back during this interview. You won't want to skip this one. We hope you enjoy listening to this interview as much as we enjoyed our conversation with Duncan. Please like, subscribe, comment and let us know what you think.

https://starkweather.bandcamp.com/music https://deathwishinc.com/collections/starkweather https://translationloss.com/products/crossbearer-into-the-wire-reissue Dan and I sit down over 30 years of Starkweather from their early days right up to them sitting on a treasure trove of songs yet to be recorded and released. We discuss how the lack of touring likely was a direct contributor to Starkweather remaining one of the best (and most important/influential) bands you've *NEVER* heard of, the importance of evolving as a band and as musicians, and so much more. We talk about Rennie's love of hockey, his interest in noir films, and what he brings to the table lyrically, taken from his own experiences and his passion for weird fiction. This is a great conversation you won't want to miss. All songs used with permission - "Bustuari" taken from "This Sheltering Night" on Deathwish, Inc and "Hushabye : Goodnight" taken from "Croatoan" on Hypertension Records (vinyl) and Candlelight Records (CD).

https://starkweather.bandcamp.com/music https://deathwishinc.com/collections/starkweather https://translationloss.com/products/crossbearer-into-the-wire-reissue Dan and I sit down over 30 years of Starkweather from their early days right up to them sitting on a treasure trove of songs yet to be recorded and released. We discuss how the lack of touring likely was a direct contributor to Starkweather remaining one of the best (and most important/influential) bands you've *NEVER* heard of, the importance of evolving as a band and as musicians, and so much more. We talk about Rennie's love of hockey, his interest in noir films, and what he brings to the table lyrically, taken from his own experiences and his passion for weird fiction. This is a great conversation you won't want to miss. All songs used with permission - "Bustuari" taken from "This Sheltering Night" on Deathwish, Inc and "Hushabye : Goodnight" taken from "Croatoan" on Hypertension Records (vinyl) and Candlelight Records (CD).

For the back-half of our conversation with Chuck, we do an extremely deep dive into the earliest days of SPELLS and do a track-by-track breakdown of every song on "Loose Change, Vol 1" gathering together all of the singles, songs from splits and comps, charity releases, etc. that SPELLS put out. All songs used with permission: Music by SPELLS. Continental Turbulence Music, ASCAP. http://snappylittlenumbers.limitedrun.com/ https://snappylittlenumbers.bandcamp.com/

We discuss Chuck's early days playing in ska bands, his versatility as a musician playing bass, guitar, drums, and vocals, the origins of his record label, the secret for the endurance for SPELLS, and a ton more. SPELLS songs used with permission: Music by SPELLS. Continental Turbulence Music, ASCAP. http://snappylittlenumbers.limitedrun.com/ https://snappylittlenumbers.bandcamp.com/ https://store.greennoiserecords.com/collections/snappy-little-numbers LAST REMAINING COPIES OF THE NEW SPELLS WITH LIMITED ART PRINT: https://store.greennoiserecords.com/collections/snappy-little-numbers/products/preorder-spells-past-our-prime-green-noise-exclusive-edition-new-lp

Chuck and I had so much fun time we did a special episode we decided to make it a thing. The plan is to do ~4 a year around holidays so consider this to be the "Easter" episode. For this episode, Chuck brought on his good buddy Mike Taylor of Hooper to help with the conversation.

This was a unique conversation for me because right up until about an hour before I hit record I was thinking I had absolutely no frame of reference to talk about alt-country or Americana but as the conversation unfolded, I realized I actually liked quite a bit.

These episodes are always fun because for me they're kind of edutainment - I'm learning new and exciting things while talking with some of my favorite people. It's a classic win/win. If you're either like me and you're always curious about scene-adjacent music or if you're already a fan and are looking to hear people riff about the music, check this one out.

It is always a treat to find a reason to get Chuck on the show to talk so we're privileged to get him back on and just talk shop for awhile. We sincerely hope you check out this unique episode.

I asked both Chuck and Mike to pick one song they felt was a good representative of alt-country/Americana and they each came up with:

Old 97's - "Timebomb" off the album Too Far To Care

Lucero - "Little Silver Heart" off their self-titled album Lucero

Check out Hooper stuff here:

https://snappylittlenumbers.limitedrun.com/products/search?q=hooper

Or here:

Or all things Snappy Little Numbers here:

https://snappylittlenumbers.limitedrun.com/

Or here:

https://snappylittlenumbers.bandcamp.com/

For episode 002, Dan and Eric do a deep dive on all things "In a Perfect World" with Steve Tulipana - the band's time recording in NYC, choices for a producer, how they got involved in the film "Strange Days," and everything else you've ever wanted to know about the album.

Check out upcoming shows from Steve's various bands:

8/24 Men of Men at Crossroads Music Fest in Kansas City, MO

9/30 Violenteer opening for Whores. at recordBar - KCMO

Violenteer record release shows 12/7 Omaha, NE at Reverb and 12/14 at miniBar in Kansas City. Vinyl EP will be out in December

links:

https://robotswin.com/ - Season to Risk

https://violenteer.bandcamp.com/ - Violenteer

https://www.danjonesmusic.com/ - Dan Jones & the Squids

https://www.facebook.com/MENOFMENKC/

https://www.therecordbar.com/

https://www.minibarkc.com/

Songs used with permission

Music by Season to Risk @givemebackmyhand ASCAP

Jacob came back to discuss all things related to his solo full-length "I Love You and I'm Sorry." He discusses where the songs came from, how he likes to sprinkle just a little bit of political nuance in his songs, and we even discuss the heartbreaking story behind the dog on the cover.Jacob brings heart and humor into his music with him and it was very interesting to discuss the songwriting process from someone that is essentially solely responsible for all of the songs and arrangements on the album. Our first trip up North was great and we hope to do it again soon!Check out Jacob on Instagram:@jacobbrodovsky@songsbydomandjacobAnd you can pick up physical editions of his EP and full-length here:https://jacobbrodovsky.bandcamp.com/https://www.jacobbrodovsky.com/Both songs from this episode were taken from "I Love You and I'm Sorry" (duh)Night BakerClass Of '99

For this episode, we're rolling out two firsts - our first guest north of the border and our first guest to focus primarily on singing/songwriting. Jacob Brodovsky sits down with us and discusses his early foray into playing with a band with his brother, his connection with John K. Samson, and so much more. Find out how his group of friends and their spontaneous songs helps keep him writing, which of those songs made it into his album proper, the challenges of touring in the United States as a Canadian musician, and how much he enjoys touring Germany.

Jacob has some unique approaches to music and recording and he goes deep into his radio show, his influences, and everything else you'd expect from a consummate musical professional. We hope you enjoy listening.

Check out Jacob on Instagram:

@jacobbrodovsky

@songsbydomandjacob

And you can pick up physical editions of his EP and full-length here:

https://jacobbrodovsky.bandcamp.com/

https://www.jacobbrodovsky.com/

Both songs from this episode were taken from the "Sixteen Years" EP:

Sixteen Years

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