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“All you have when the shit hits the fan is each other... Often that is enough.” Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of "If I Ruled the World." Today, I sit down with Joe Glenton, a former British soldier turned journalist and anti-war activist. Joe shares his transformation from a ‘good’ military operative to a voice for peace, dissecting the complexities of military ethics and the true cost of war.
Episode Highlights:
Military Lessons: Joe opens up about the valuable and harsh lessons he learned during his service, emphasising the importance of solidarity amongst peers when facing dire situations. He reflects on how this lesson of mutual dependence and team ethic, though squandered in the military, is crucial for societal progress.
Critique of Military Use: Joe critically assesses how military solidarity is often exploited and misused, pointing out the need for a system that genuinely fosters community and support rather than conflict.
The Role of Media and Public Perception: The conversation takes a deep dive into how media representations can distort public perceptions of war and military actions. Joe and Gillian discuss the role of media in shaping narratives that justify war and overlook its devastating impacts.
The Importance of Dialogue and Community: Throughout the episode, the emphasis remains on the power of dialogue and community building. Joe advocates for open conversations and collective actions as the pathways towards meaningful system changes and a more peaceful world.
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Since recording this episode, Kamala Harris has been nominated as the US Democratic Party’s presidential candidate. So strap yourselves in for a seriously timely conversation about leadership challenges for women of colour! Today, I’m joined by Majora Carter, an urban revitalisation strategy consultant and real estate developer, who is famously known for her pioneering work in green urban planning in the South Bronx.
Episode Highlights:
Majora's Early Influence:
Growing up in South Bronx, Majora shares her personal evolution amidst the neighbourhood's challenges and the stark realities of urban decline and systemic racism. Her journey from witnessing the destructive fires of the 70s to becoming a beacon of hope and change lays the foundation for this conversation.
Greening the Ghetto:
Majora recounts her pioneering TED Talk and the inception of sustainable projects like the South Bronx Greenway. She discusses the complexities of introducing green spaces in urban areas and the resistance that sometimes follows from within the community.
The Backlash and Public Perception:
A profound segment where Majora reflects on the public backlash she faced after gaining national attention, encapsulated by her portrayal in the media as a hero turned betrayer of her own community.
Environmental Justice and Economic Development:
Majora outlines her strategies for combining environmental sustainability with economic development, emphasising green job training and community empowerment. She delves into the intricate balance of enhancing neighbourhood conditions while fostering local employment.
14: I would scale AGROFORESTRY across the globe: George Young
Continuing with the food theme… today we explore the vital relationship between agriculture and ecology. Join me as I sit down with George Young, a visionary farmer who has transitioned from conventional to agroecological farming practices. Discover how George integrates biodiversity and sustainable methods to enhance the 'aliveness' of his family farm and the broader implications for our environment and food security.
Key Takeaways:
George's Farming Evolution:
George shares his personal journey of becoming a farmer and transitioning from traditional methods to agroecological practices.
Insights into how and why he chose to diverge from his father's farming techniques.
Challenges and Victories in Modern Farming:
Discussion on the various challenges George faces, including the broader political and economic pressures that impact farmers.
Success stories from the farm, showcasing how sustainable practices can lead to real change.
Integrating Biodiversity and Agriculture:
The importance of wildlife corridors, biodiversity, and how these elements contribute to a healthier ecosystem on the farm.
Specific initiatives like agroforestry and organic conversion that George has implemented.
The Impact of Supermarkets and Consumer Choices:
How supermarket practices affect farmers and what this means for local versus global food production.
The role of consumer choices in shaping farming practices and promoting sustainability.
A Vision for the Future of Farming:
George's perspective on creating wildlife habitats alongside efficient food production.
The potential for rewilding and securing funding for environmental farming initiatives.
Engagement Beyond the Farm:
13: I would ban JUNK FOOD advertising!: Luke (Bite Back 2030)
Enjoying your lunch break? Not so fast… Today, we dive into the pressing issue of junk food marketing and its impact on youth with Luke, an 18-year-old school student, food justice campaigner for Bite Back 2030, and youth parliament member. Join us as Luke shares his journey into activism, the significant challenges posed by unhealthy food marketing, and the collective efforts required to forge a healthier future for his, and future generations.
Key Takeaways:
The Catalyst for Change:
The moment Luke decided to stand up against the systemic drivers of unhealthy food marketing to youth.
Introduction to Luke's activism journey and the origins of Bite Back 2030.
Targeting Youth: The Unhealthy Marketing Machine:
Exploration of research suggesting that young people are explicitly targeted by junk food advertising.
Luke's insights into defining junk food and its detrimental effects on health.
Navigating the Food Landscape:
Personal anecdotes from Luke about his dietary experiences and the illusion of choice in the current food environment.
Government and Corporate Accountability:
Luke's perspective on the failure of government regulations and the cozy relationship between government entities and food companies.
The urgent need for changing the narrative around food, health, and corporate responsibility.
Bite Back 2030: Spearheading Change:
The role of Bite Back 2030 in advocating for a healthier food environment and their actions against junk food marketing.
Challenges encountered in the fight against powerful food industry lobbying and the barriers to effective change.
The Path Forward:
Luke's vision for the future and the importance of engaging young people in politics and activism to address public health issues.
12: I would give YOUNG PEOPLE the vote: Craig Bennett (CEO The Wildlife Trusts)
Season 1 · Episode 12
Friday, March 22, 2024 • Duration 01:07:44
Good data, good decision making, values and accountability! A recipe for change. Join us as we engage in a profound conversation with Craig Bennett, CEO of The Wildlife Trusts. This episode navigates Craig's journey to becoming a beacon of environmental activism, the intertwining of politics and conservation, and how leadership shapes the course of environmental advocacy. Delve into Craig's critical views on current global environmental policies, and the imperative role of diverse, youthful voices in forging a sustainable future.
Key Takeaways:
Craig Bennett's Path to Environmentalism:
An introduction to Craig's backstory and pivotal moments with Friends of the Earth that shaped his environmental advocacy.
Politics vs. Nature:
A discussion on the challenges of balancing economic equality and environmental conservation.
Craig's critique of political support for damaging agricultural and fossil fuel practices.
Personal Resilience for Activists:
Insights into how Craig maintains well-being through music, family, and running.
The importance of personal health in sustaining long-term activism.
Vision for Future Environmental Policy:
The necessity of including younger generations in policymaking.
Advocacy for evaluating progress beyond traditional economic indicators to include environmental sustainability.
Historical Lessons and Future Aspirations:
Reflections on successful environmental actions, such as the global response to the ozone layer crisis.
Craig's thoughts on what's needed for effective international cooperation and environmental governance today.
Conclusion and Insights: Craig Bennett shares valuable lessons from his extensive experience in environmental advocacy, highlighting the critical need for systemic change, personal resilience, and inclusive policymaking. His vision for a sustainable future underscores the complexities of environmental challenges and the collective effort required to address them. For more insights and to support The Wildlife Trusts, visit .
11: I would ban post-90's music!: John Boyle
Season 1 · Episode 11
Friday, March 8, 2024 • Duration 57:00
Brace yourself, as we embark on a voyage through the profound insights and stories of ex-lawyer turned documentary filmmaker John Boyle and an array of personalities. This episode unravels the complex tapestry of global issues—from piracy and environmental crises to revolutionary politics—through the lens of individual experiences. Most importantly, it poses some questions: Who are the good guys? Who are the bad guys? And who get’s to decide?
Key Takeaways:
John Boyle's Pioneering Path:
Boyle's early life and transition from a legal career to documentary filmmaking, fuelled by his love for the ocean.
Insights into his unique filming methods and the challenges of capturing the ocean's depths.
Confronting Piracy on the High Seas:
Experiences with Somali pirates, offering a window into the socio-economic and geopolitical factors at play.
Discussion on the international response, including jailing pirates and the involvement of the Russian Navy.
Revolutionary Figures and Global Crises:
A historical perspective on Cuba under leaders like Castro and Batista.
Exploring the duality of good and bad in revolutionary figures.
Humanity's Response to Crises:
Reflecting on the community spirit during the COVID pandemic and contrasting it with ongoing global crises in places like Yemen and Somalia.
Boyle's hypothetical approach to world leadership, focusing on pollution control and population management through radical policies.
Advocacy for Systemic Change:
The importance of understanding the complexities of global issues and the role of storytelling in advocating for change.
Boyle's vision for the future and the need to address systemic issues affecting the most vulnerable populations.
Correction:
Abduwali Muse was sentenced to 33 years and 9 months (not 99) for hijacking, kidnapping and hostage-taking.
10: I would reduce global energy CONSUMPTION: Mike Webb (Gwent Wildlife Trust)
Season 1 · Episode 10
Friday, February 23, 2024 • Duration 49:53
Today, we delve into the complex relationship between renewable energy development and biodiversity conservation. Gillian speaks with Mike Webb from the Gwent Wildlife Trust, exploring the nuanced challenges that solar power station developments pose to biodiversity-rich habitats in South Wales and beyond. While recognising the crucial shift towards green energy, our discussion uncovers the need for strategic, sustainable planning to ensure that this transition supports both progress and nature preservation. Importantly, we also learn the importance of soldiering on to win the war even if you lose the battle.
Key Takeaways:
Journey to Environmental Advocacy:
Mike Webb shares insights into his early life, university years, and the journey that led him to advocate for nature and politics.
The Gwent Levels - A Case Study:
Examination of the Gwent Levels, highlighting the area's ecological significance and the threats posed by proposed solar farm developments.
The Environmental Cost of Progress:
Discussion on the delicate balance between renewable energy profitability and environmental sustainability.
The critical need for independent research to fully understand the potential impacts of renewable energy infrastructure on biodiversity.
Public Involvement and Policy Challenges:
The importance of public involvement in environmental protection efforts.
A look into contentious political issues, international law, and the role of legislation in safeguarding natural habitats.
Navigating Developer Hurdles and Community Perspectives:
The big NIMBY question!
Strategies for reconciling community concerns with environmental and development goals.
The Future of Renewable Energy and Biodiversity:
Mike’s vision for a sustainable future for the Gwent Levels and similar ecosystems.
Practical advice for planners and developers on incorporating biodiversity conservation into renewable energy projects.
9: We would break up BIG TECH!: Rosa Curling & Martha Dark (Foxglove Legal)
Season 1 · Episode 9
Friday, February 9, 2024 • Duration 01:13:17
Today, I’m joined by Rosa Curling and Martha Dark from Foxglove, a pioneering digital rights law firm in the UK. Rosa and Martha share their insights into the tech industry's exploitative practices and Foxglove's role in challenging these behaviours to ensure technology serves the greater good.
Key Takeaways:
The Mission of Foxglove:
Introduction to Foxglove and its commitment to fighting for digital rights and against tech exploitation.
The inspiration behind Foxglove's name and its relevance to their mission.
Exposing Tech Giants:
Discussion on the exploitative practices within the tech industry.
Foxglove's legal battles against tech giants and government agencies to protect public interests.
Case Study - Palantir and NHS Data:
A deep dive into the controversies surrounding Palantir's handling of NHS data.
The implications for privacy and public health governance.
Advocacy for Content Moderators:
Foxglove's efforts to secure better treatment and working conditions for content moderators.
The broader impact of these battles on labor rights and workplace ethics.
Challenging Tech Dominance:
Analysis of the adverse effects of tech monopolies on privacy, democracy, and labor rights.
Strategies for dismantling such monopolies and promoting a fairer tech landscape.
Call to Action:
Encouraging collective efforts among tech workers and the public to regulate big tech.
How listeners can support Foxglove and similar initiatives in advocating for corporate responsibility and technological equity.
Conclusion and Engagement: Rosa Curling and Martha Dark offer a powerful reminder of the need for vigilance and action in the face of digital exploitation. Join us in supporting their cause and taking a stand for a tech world that benefits everyone. For more information on Foxglove and how you can get involved, visit
8: “What am I not saying, that I would like to say?” - Change, Justice, & New Perspectives
Season 1 · Episode 8
Friday, January 26, 2024 • Duration 21:06
Today, is a moment to reflect and express gratitude for our amazing audience & sponsors, and consider the global changes and challenges that have emerged since the inception of the podcast. The ongoing conflict in Gaza and Israel is discussed with strong emphasis on the ever-increasing need for international law to address these issues. I recall conversations with Jojo Mehta, co-founder of 'Stop Ecocide International', around ecocide as an international crime. But most importantly I remind myself of the question posed to me by Hal Rhoades of Action for Conservation: “What am I not saying, that I would like to say?”. Join me as I try to power through the ‘red light syndrome’, let the guard rails down, and say what I’ve wanted to say for some time.
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7: I would stop UNELECTED BILLIONAIRES from ruling the world: Candace Rondeaux
Season 1 · Episode 7
Friday, January 12, 2024 • Duration 32:24
Today, we explore the complex interplay of social, industrial, and environmental factors in shaping our world. In this thought-provoking episode, we are joined by Candace Rondeaux, a distinguished investigative journalist and academic. Candace delves into the pressing issues of climate change, discussing the intricate connections between digitisation, decarbonisation, and the future of democracy, and the urgent need for ethical leadership in addressing these global challenges.
Key Takeaways:
Candace's Journey into Russian Affairs:
An overview of Candace's unexpected foray into studying Russian mercenaries.
Her journey from journalism to academia.
Nature, Climate Crisis, and Geopolitics:
Exploring the intersection of natural phenomena, the climate crisis, and global politics.
The impact of these factors on the current geopolitical landscape.
Global Changes and Personal Impact:
How major global shifts affect individual lives and societal norms.
Reflecting on political stories from the 90s and their relevance today.
Energy Transition Challenges:
Discussing the difficulties in transitioning to sustainable energy sources.
The potential workforce implications of such transitions.
Digitisation, Decarbonisation, and Democracy:
The role of digitisation and decarbonisation in shaping the future of democracy.
Candace's insights on digital currencies and their energy consumption.
Ethical Leadership for Industrial Change:
The critical need for progressive and ethical leadership in industrial and environmental sectors.
Candace's views on the moral compass required for preserving a balanced ecosystem.
Personal and Global Environmental Connections:
Candace's personal relationship with nature and the environment.
Vision for Urban Communities:
If she ruled the world, Majora shares her broader vision for urban communities globally — from policy changes to grassroots initiatives that prioritise both environmental sustainability and social equity.
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How George stays connected with the wider world and the importance of community and knowledge sharing among farmers.
Advice for those interested in entering the farming profession or transitioning to more sustainable practices.
Conclusion and How to Connect: George Young's transformative approach to farming not only enhances the biodiversity of his land but also serves as an inspiring model for future generations of farmers. For listeners looking to learn more about sustainable farming practices or to connect with George, visit his blog.
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The collective action needed to combat the commercial drivers of disease and ensure a healthier future for younger generations.
Conclusion and How to Support the Cause: Luke's passionate call to action highlights the critical need for a united stand against junk food marketing and the implementation of effective solutions to safeguard the health of future generations. For listeners inspired to join the movement or learn more about Bite Back 2030, visit their website.
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A final thank you to our wonderful sponsors Triodos Bank UK for making this podcast happen, and to The Wildlife Trusts for their continued support.
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Reflections on Leadership and Environmental Stewardship:
Mike's humorous musings on being the 'King of Wales' and ruling the world, tying back to the serious theme of responsible leadership in environmental conservation.
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If you have any insights or feedback on today’s episode or you have an idea for how the world could be a better place, drop me an email on podcast@gillianburkevoice.com
If you have any insights or feedback on today’s episode or you have an idea for how the world could be a better place, drop me an email on podcast@gillianburkevoice.com
A final thank you to our wonderful sponsors Triodos Bank UK for making this podcast happen.
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