In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim dive into an enriching discussion with Shawna Hofer, Chief Information Security Officer at St. Luke's Health System in Idaho. Discover the vital link between cybersecurity and patient safety, the evolving role of AI in healthcare, and the challenges of integrating new technologies securely. Shawna shares her unique journey from an identity and access management manager to a CISO, offering valuable insights on risk management, data privacy, machine identities, and resilient security infrastructure. This is a must-watch episode for anyone interested in the intersection of healthcare and cybersecurity!

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview

00:37 ID Pro Membership Benefits

03:35 Conferences and Events

06:03 Introducing Shawna Hofer

07:00 Shawna’s Journey to CISO10:55 Identity Security in Healthcare

13:49 Balancing Security and User Experience

19:08 Challenges with IoT in Healthcare

24:27 AI in Healthcare Security

30:01 Upskilling for AI in Security

33:07 The Ever-Improving AI Landscape

33:21 Embracing the AI Mindset

33:58 Resiliency in Healthcare and AI

35:06 The Future of Jobs in an AI-Driven World

37:37 Trusting AI in Security Decisions

40:56 Learning the Language of Risk

43:44 Making the Business Case for Identity

45:50 Balancing Security Investments

51:48 The Future of Healthcare and AI

54:40 Fun and Food: The Potato Question

01:02:13 Closing Remarks and Farewell

Connect with Shawna: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawna-hofer-7259b21a/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim are joined by Felix Gaehtgens, a former Gartner analyst, to discuss the evolving landscape of machine identity. Felix shares insights into the differences between human and machine identities, the challenges posed by legacy identity management practices, and the importance of moving towards modern, dynamic, and ephemeral identity solutions. The conversation covers key strategies for managing machine identities, the role of IAM teams, and the future of this critical area in cybersecurity. Tune in for an informative and engaging discussion that dives deep into the technical, strategic, and practical aspects of machine identity management.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction and Catching Up

01:20 Special Guest Introduction: Felix Gaehtgens

03:42 Upcoming Conferences and Events

06:46 Deep Dive into Machine Identity

09:10 Challenges and Solutions in Machine Identity Management

18:03 Practical Advice for Practitioners

29:28 The Future of Identity Security

30:29 The IAM Team's Absence in Machine Identity

31:06 Challenges Faced by Developers and IAM Teams

31:42 Forming a Machine IAM Working Group

34:24 The Disconnect Between IAM Teams and Developers

37:16 Tactical Approaches for IAM Program Managers

39:21 Guidance and Automation in IAM

51:25 The Future of Machine Identity

54:47 Scuba Diving and IAM Analogies

01:00:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Connect with Felix - https://www.linkedin.com/in/felixgaehtgens/

Reading links:

• https://curity.io/news/cloud-native-data-security-with-oauth-ebook/
• https://spiffe.io/pdf/Solving-the-bottom-turtle-SPIFFE-SPIRE-Book.pdf

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

Join Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman on the Identity at the Center podcast as they welcome Lalit Choda, founder and CEO of the Non-Human Identity Management Group. Lalit, also known as "Mr. NHI," shares his journey from investment banking to becoming a leading expert in non-human identities. This episode delves into the critical and often overlooked world of NHI, exploring why it's such a hot topic now, the challenges practitioners face in managing these identities, and how to approach the problem from a risk-based perspective. Lalit discusses the limitations of traditional PAM and IGA tools for NHI, the importance of foundational controls, and the alarming implications of AI on non-human identity management. Plus, hear a fun segment about vinyl records and some surprising finds!

Chapter Timestamps:00:00:00 - Introduction to Lalit Choda and the NHI Community00:02:31 - Welcome to the Identity at the Center Podcast & IdentiVerse Discussion00:06:18 - Lalit Choda's Identity Origin Story: From Mr. SOX to Mr. NHI00:12:03 - Why Non-Human Identities Are a Big Deal Right Now00:15:37 - Defining NHI and the Practitioner's Framework00:19:13 - The Scale and Challenges of NHI Management00:23:01 - New Types of NHI and Tooling Limitations00:27:12 - The Lack of a Single Source of Truth for NHI00:33:57 - Prioritizing NHI Management and the Role of PAM00:38:58 - A Risk-Based Approach to NHI and Foundational Controls00:48:15 - What Scares Lalit Most About NHI (and AI)00:50:54 - Lalit's Impressive Vinyl Collection00:56:38 - Jim and Jeff's First, Best, and Favorite Albums01:01:15 - The Intersection of Music and Non-Human Identities01:02:00 - Wrapping Up & Where to Find More Information

Connect with Lalit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/

Non-Human Identity Management Group: https://www.nhimg.org/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

Keywords:Lalit Choda, Non-Human Identity, NHI, Machine Identity, Workload Identity, Identity Management, Cybersecurity, PAM, IGA, Privilege Access Management, Identity Governance and Administration, Secrets Management, Cloud Security, AI, Artificial Intelligence, DevSecOps, Risk-Based Approach, Identity Security, Service Accounts, Identity at the Center, IDAC, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, IdentiVerse, Vinyl Collection, Podcast, Mr. NHI

#idac #nonhumanidentity #machineidentity #cybersecurity #identityaccessmanagement #IAM #infosec #digitalidentity #workloadsecurity #devsecops #cloudsecurity #privilegedaccessmanagement #identitygovernance #zerotrust #nhi #mrnhi

In this episode, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman engage in a fascinating conversation with guest Nick Mothershaw, Chief Identity Strategist at Open Identity Exchange (OIX). They delve deep into topics such as the concept and functionality of digital wallets, the role of governments in issuing these wallets, and the exciting future of smart and roaming wallets. They also discuss the importance of biometrics in wallet functionality. This engaging discussion provides valuable insights into the evolving landscape of identity security.

Connect with Nick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-mothershaw-2150436/

Learn more about the Open Identity Exchange: https://openidentityexchange.org/

Governments and Digital Wallets - An OIX Whitepaper: https://openidentityexchange.org/networks/87/item.html?id=706

Identiverse 2024: As an IDAC listener, you can register with 25% off by using code IDV24-IDAC25 at https://events.identiverse.com/identiverse2024/register?code=IDV24-IDAC25

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:

• Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
• America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
• Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this Sponsor Spotlight episode, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by Rich Dandliker, Chief Strategist at Veza, for an in-depth discussion on Veza's unique approach to identity security. They discuss Veza's market success, their 'anti-convergence' strategy, the significance of a reputable customer base, and the importance of a data-first approach to identity management. Dandliker also provides deeper insights into Veza's Intelligent Access. Don't miss this episode for a comprehensive understanding of Veza's innovative solutions in the IAM market.

Connect with Rich: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rich-dandliker-591381/

Learn more about Veza: https://veza.com//?utm_campaign=IdentityAtTheCenterPodcast&utm_medium=website&utm_source=thirdparty&utm_content=link

Veza Blog - Lessons from the breach: Microsoft and Midnight Blizzard: https://veza.com/blog/identity-security-lessons-from-midnight-blizzards-breach-of-microsoft/?utm_campaign=IdentityAtTheCenterPodcast&utm_medium=website&utm_source=thirdparty&utm_content=link

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of Identity at the Center, Jim and Jeff speak with Laura Gomez-Martin, Former State Chief Privacy Officer for the State of Maryland, and present colleague at RSM. The conversation revolves around the role of government in protecting privacy, the regulatory landscape for privacy, the complexity of privacy policies and the balance between public and company expectations. Laura also shares her insights on the intersection of privacy and cybersecurity, offers advice for those interested in a career in privacy, and discusses the potential risks of AI deep fakes and identity theft. Tune in for this engaging discussion on privacy in the world of identity.

Connect with Laura: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauragomezmartin/

IDPro: https://idpro.org/

Identiverse 2024: As an IDAC listener, you can register with 25% off by using code IDV24-IDAC25 at https://events.identiverse.com/identiverse2024/register?code=IDV24-IDAC25

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:

• Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
• America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
• Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the IDAC Sponsor Spotlight, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman host a conversation with Marco Venuti, Director of IAM Business Acceleration for Thales, and Jason Keenaghan, Director of IAM Product Management for Thales. They discuss the Thales OneWelcome Identity Platform and its comprehensive solution for managing digital identities. Marco and Jason delve into the world of B2B IAM and explain its differences from B2C and B2E IAM. They also cover the challenges and complexities of B2B IAM, the security and privacy aspects of OneWelcome, and the future growth and opportunities in the IAM space.

Connect with Marco Venuti: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mvenuti/

Connect with Jason Keenaghan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-keenaghan/

Learn more about OneWelcome: https://www6.thalesgroup.com/b2b-identity-management?utm_source=Podcast_center&utm_campaign=B2B_IAM

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, guest Eve Maler, former CTO of ForgeRock and founder of Venn Factory join hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman. They catch up with Eve and discuss her work at Venn Factory, diving into the origins of the company's name. The episode also features listener voicemails, including one from David Strommer about the identity metasystem and another from Satish about the concept of identity fabric. As a blast from the past, the hosts revisit Eve's previous episode where she discussed the difference between digital identity and IAM. The episode wraps up with some lighthearted questions about aliens. Don't miss this insightful and engaging conversation with Eve Maler.

Connect with Eve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evemaler/

Learn more about Venn Factory: https://vennfactory.com/

Celebrate Your Technical Debit: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7164050559711260673/

Identiverse 2024: As an IDAC listener, you can register with 25% off by using code IDV24-IDAC25 at https://events.identiverse.com/identiverse2024/register?code=IDV24-IDAC25

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:

• Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
• America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
• Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jim and Jeff dive deep into the world of physical security and identity with special guests Sara King and Raul Cepeda from rf IDEAS. As part of the "Sponsor Spotlight" series, this fully sponsored episode provides in-depth insights into the innovative solutions offered by rf IDEAS. The discussion covers a range of topics, including the differentiation factors of rf IDEAS in a crowded market, their market presence in various verticals such as healthcare and manufacturing, and their support for passwordless environments. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the latest industry trends, such as the migration to secure and mobile credentials, the shift from BLE to NFC, and the importance of securing frontline worker shared workstations. The episode concludes with a lively discussion on the future of biometrics and the Reader Remote Management (RRM) capabilities provided by rf IDEAS. Tune in to discover how rf IDEAS is bridging physical and logical security to create a seamless authentication experience. Don't miss this engaging episode as Jim, Jeff, Sara, and Raul explore the latest advancements in physical security and identity, brought to you by rf IDEAS.

Learn more about rf IDEAS: https://www.rfideas.com/IDAC

Connect with Raul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raulcepedajr/

Connect with Sara: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraking62389/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this engaging episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff Steadman and Jim McDonald welcome Daniel Grube, Product Manager at TikTok, back to the show. The discussion kicks off with Jeff's experience with the Apple Vision Pro, leading into a vibrant conversation about the Super Bowl, commercials, and personal tech preferences. The main topic of the episode is the innovative implementation and benefits of passkeys, with Daniel sharing insights from TikTok's perspective. The episode also touches on upcoming conferences, the importance of community reviews, and concludes with a light-hearted debate on the perennial traveler's dilemma: window vs. aisle seats.

Connect with Daniel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-grube-b5118993/

Identiverse 2024: As an IDAC listener, you can register with 25% off by using code IDV24-IDAC25 at https://events.identiverse.com/identiverse2024/register?code=IDV24-IDAC25.

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:

• Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
• America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
• Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode, Jeff and Jim discuss the role of a Security Operations Center (SOC) in identity security. They are joined by Steve Kane and Todd Willoughby from RSM's Managed Security Practice. The conversation covers topics such as early adopters, the evolution of threats, the importance of identity in SOC, and the decision to build your own SOC or outsource. They also explore the anatomy of a breach and the actions taken by SOC to prevent and mitigate attacks. In this conversation, Todd and Steve discuss the tactics and techniques used by threat actors to avoid detection, the challenges faced by SOC analysts, and the importance of passion in cybersecurity. They also explore what happens when security measures break down and provide advice for aspiring SOC analysts. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about predictions for the Super Bowl.

Connect with Steve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/skane2pa/

Connect with Todd: https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddhwilloughby/

RSM Security Monitoring & Response: https://rsmus.com/services/risk-fraud-cybersecurity/cybersecurity-business-vulnerability/security-monitoring-response.html

The easiest way to not get eaten is to at least try to not look like food: Hardening attack surfaces – Part 1: https://warroom.rsmus.com/the-easiest-way-to-not-get-eaten-is-to-at-least-try-to-not-look-like-food-hardening-attack-surfaces-part-1/

The easiest way to not get eaten is to at least try to not look like food: Critical asset considerations – Part 2: https://warroom.rsmus.com/the-easiest-way-to-not-get-eaten-is-to-at-least-try-to-not-look-like-food-critical-asset-considerations-part-2/

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:

• Europe: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week/
• America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america
• Asia: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-asia/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman dive into answering voicemail questions from listeners. They address topics such as the barrier of entry to IAM for entry-level roles, the role of IAM architects, influential roles in IAM with the rise of AI, and the choice between using Microsoft Enterprise Identity Protection or a dedicated third-party ITDR (IT Disaster Recovery) solution. They also touch on the difference between digital identity and IAM and share their favorite IAM analogies.

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of "Sponsor Spotlight," a special fully sponsored episode of The Identity at the Center podcast, Jim and Jeff host Alex Bovee, CEO at ConductorOne. They discuss the concept and advantages of identity governance, with a focus on how ConductorOne aids in secure workforce through modern access controls and identity governance. The discussion also explores the importance of AI (Artificial Intelligence) and LLM (Large Language Models) in identity governance. Alex also introduces the company's new major enhancement 'Access Fabric' which allows customers to holistically view their ecosystems allowing for greater insight and control, decreasing the long implementation times and complexity often associated with traditional IGA solutions.

Connect with Alex:

⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbovee/⁠

Learn more about ConductorOne:

https://www.conductorone.com/?utm_source=identityatthecenter&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=c1-brand⁠

ConductorOne Free Trial:

https://www.conductorone.com/lp/free-trial/?utm_source=identityatthecenter&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=c1-brand

Introducing ConductorOne Access Fabric: Unified Identity, Access, and Authorization Across Your Complex Environment:

https://www.conductorone.com/blog/introducing-conductorone-access-fabric-unified-identity-access-and-authorization-across-your-complex-environment/?utm_source=identityatthecenter&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=c1-brand⁠

ConductorOne Blog - Reimagining Identity Governance:

https://www.conductorone.com/blog/reimagining-identity-governance/?utm_source=identityatthecenter&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=c1-brand

ConductorOne Blog - A Practical Approach to Achieving Zero Standing Privilege (ZSP):

https://www.conductorone.com/guides/a-practical-approach-to-achieving-zero-standing-privilege/?utm_source=identityatthecenter&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=c1-brand

ConductorOne Blog - Introducing the First AI Assistant for Identity Governance: ConductorOne Copilot:

https://www.conductorone.com/blog/introducing_the_first_ai_assistant_for_identity_governance_conductorone_copilot/?utm_source=identityatthecenter&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=c1-brand

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald:

⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/⁠

Jeff Steadman:

⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/⁠

Visit the show on the web at ⁠idacpodcast.com⁠ and follow ⁠@IDACPodcast⁠ on Twitter.

This episode features various professionals discussing their experiences and journeys in the identity and access management (IAM) field during a meetup in Oslo, Norway, and Berlin, Germany. Participants include individuals from the Central Bank of Norway, Space Norway, and newcomers to the IAM space, among others. The event, promoted as 'IdentitBeer,' highlights networking, the evolution of IAM, challenges faced, and the importance of honest relationships in business development. Key topics include the history and growth of IdentiBeer, community impact, and personal anecdotes about working in IAM.

Chapters

00:00 Welcome to Identity at the Center00:18 Meet the Identity Experts01:49 Discovering the Faces Behind Identity02:07 Sarah's Journey into Identity06:47 Tips for Building Client Relationships13:13 Espen's Origin Story and IdentiBeer17:05 Expanding IdentiBeer Globally22:58 IdentiBeer Meetup in Asheville23:30 Organizing IdentiBeer Events24:34 IdentiBeer at Identiverse25:55 Reflections on Identity Community26:07 Identity Professionals' Introductions28:17 AI and Identity Management30:04 Identity Journeys and Experiences31:26 Challenges in Identity Management34:08 Identity in Cybersecurity45:37 Closing Remarks and Cheers

Find your next IdentiBeer event: https://identi.beer/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

#idac #IdentityAtTheCenter #IdentiBeer #IAM #IdentityandAccessManagement #Oslo #Berlin #Norway #Germany #Cybersecurity #InfoSec #TechCommunity #Networking #IdentityManagement #DigitalIdentity #TechPodcast #ITSecurity #AccessManagement #IdentiBeerOslo #IdentiBeerBerlin #JimMcDonald #JeffSteadman

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by special guest Ryan Galluzzo, Identity Management Program Lead at NIST. They ask if identity is at the center for NIST and discuss the creation of NIST 800-63 r3, its upcoming revision, and the significance for identity practitioners. The conversation also touches upon NIST's involvement in mobile driver's licenses and their perspective on Zero Trust. Ryan shares insights on NIST's interactions with other nations and organizations in the non-public sector arena. The episode wraps up with some lighter hockey-themed questions, where Ryan reveals his dream beer league hockey teammate. Don't miss out on this insightful discussion with industry experts!

Connect with Ryan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-galluzzo-a100563b/

NIST 800-63 Revision 3: https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/sp800-63-3.html

Attending Identity Week in Europe, America, or Asia? Use our discount code IDAC30 for 30% off your registration fee! Learn more at:

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by guests Atul Tulshibagwale, CTO of SGNL and Co-chair of the Shared Signals Working Group, and Sean O'Dell, Senior Staff Security Engineer at Disney. The discussion revolves around Continuous Access Evaluation Profile (CAEP), Identity Threat Detection and Response (ITDR), and the Shared Signals Framework (SSF). Atul and Sean share their insights into the importance of CAEP, ITDR, and SSF for IAM practitioners. They also delve into real-life examples of how these concepts work together. The conversation concludes on a lighter note, with Sean sharing his Star Wars-themed office room and everyone discussing their favorite Star Wars, Marvel, or Indiana Jones movies and shows.

Connect with Atul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tulshi/

Learn more about SGNL: https://sgnl.ai/

Connect with Sean: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanodentity/

Re-thinking federated identity with the Continuous Access Evaluation Protocol: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/re-thinking-federated-identity-with-the-continuous-access-evaluation-protocol

Shared Signals Working Group: https://openid.net/wg/sharedsignals/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

The Identity at the Center podcast is back for 2024! Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by guest Phil Windley, Senior Software Development Manager at AWS Identity and co-founder/organizer of the Internet Identity Workshop, to share his insights on digital identity. Join us as we dive into topics such as Phil's journey into the field of identity, his involvement in the Internet Identity Workshop, and his book "Learning Digital Identity." We also discuss the book writing process, key takeaways, and the future of identity innovation. Don't miss this engaging conversation with one of the leading experts in the field!

Phil’s website: http://phil.windley.org/

Learning Digital Identity by Phil Windley: https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Digital-Identity-Design-Architectures/dp/1098117697

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

This episode of the Identity at the Center podcast features Jeff Steadman and Jim McDonald in conversation with Gary Rowe, CEO and founder of TechVision Research. They discussed the upcoming Chrysalis IV conference focused on the future of identity, security, governance, and privacy within large enterprises. The conference hosts panels of industry legends and offers deep explorations of topics such as AI's impact on these fields. Gary elaborates on what 'next-gen' means to him in the context of identity and access management and the importance of large organizations' ability to evolve swiftly considering the rapid advancement of technology. The conversation concludes with a lighter note, talking about the best holiday meals. (Note: Use the discount code IDAC24 for 50% off when registering for the Chrysalis IV conference - link below.)

Connect with Gary: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-rowe-b6966523/

TechVision Chrysalis IV Online Event - Use code IDAC24 for $200 off: https://techvisionresearch.com/chrysalis-iv/

Report - The Future of Identity Management (2024-2029): https://techvisionresearch.com/project/future-identity-management-2024-2029/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman reflect on the past year, highlighting the 59 episodes released and the growth in their listener base. The hosts also share some exciting firsts for the show, including their involvement in conferences such as Gartner, Identiverse, and Authenticate in 2023. Jim and Jeff touch upon the pending non-profit status of the podcast and delve into a speed round, answering questions about their identity heroes, important new technologies in identity, and the impact of AI on identity in the next five years. The episode concludes on a lighter note as they discuss their preferences between Android and iPhone, recommend TV shows to watch over the holiday break, and the “potato” question. Thanks to everyone that guested, listened, subscribed, and shared the show in 2023. See you in 2024!

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of "Sponsor Spotlight," a special fully sponsored episode of The Identity at the Center podcast, Jim and Jeff introduce a new series that shines a spotlight on specific solutions in the digital identity space. As hosts, they delve into the world of identity security with Sonrai Security and explore their points of view in the digital identity industry. Jim and Jeff, along with their guest Sandy Bird, Co-founder and CTO of Sonrai Security, discuss key topics such as the motivation behind Sonrai Security's inception, their unique positioning in the cybersecurity landscape, and the challenges they aim to address. They also dive into Sonrai Security's approach to securing cloud identities, highlighting the four steps outlined in their blog post linked below. Throughout the episode, Jim, Jeff, and Sandy provide their insights and perspectives on the importance of identity security. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of Sonrai Security and the broader cybersecurity landscape.

• Connect with Sandy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandy-bird-835b5576
• Learn more about Sonrai Security: https://sonraisecurity.com/
• Cloud Identity Diagnostic: https://sonraisecurity.com/cloud-identity-diagnostic/
• 4 Steps to Secure Cloud Identities If You’re Stuck: https://sonraisecurity.com/blog/4-steps-to-secure-cloud-identities-if-youre-stuck/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff interview Jay Schulman, Principal and lead for the Blockchain and Cryptocurrencies Practice at RSM US. They delve into various aspects of blockchain technology in the context of identity management. The conversation covers topics such as the fundamentals of blockchain, the importance of the immutable ledger aspect, use cases and limitations in identity, the concept of "THE" blockchain, the building blocks of a blockchain, the relevance of Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) in blockchain identity, the comparison between PGP and blockchain in digital identity, the role of blockchain in validating geographic locations, the availability of blockchain identity management systems, the move towards replacing passwords with private keys, and the challenges of verifying the authenticity of digital content in an AI-generated world. Tune in to explore the potential use cases and implications of blockchain technology in the realm of identity management.

Connect with Jay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschulman/

Learn more about RSM US: https://rsmus.com/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

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In this episode of the Identity at the Center (IDAC) podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman have an in-depth discussion about cyber insurance with guest Jason Rebholz, Chief Information Security Officer at Corvus Insurance. Jason also hosts the popular Teach Me Cyber YouTube channel and shares his journey into security content creation.

Topics covered around cyber insurance include an overview of what it is, what protections it offers, what type of companies need it, as well as best practices for completing applications. They discuss key security controls that insurance carriers look for, with a focus Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA), Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR), and resilient backups.

Jason offers perspective into the evolving role of insurance providers, not just in paying claims, but in coordinating incident response and providing value-added services to policyholders. This includes recommending and connecting customers to vetted vendors, reviewing response costs, and helping plan remediation efforts.

Other discussion areas include common mistakes applicants make on cyber insurance questionnaires and how to provide proper context to underwriters. The group also talks through emerging technologies like Privileged Access Management (PAM) and AI that enterprises should be aware of.

On the lighter side, Jason shares his passion for indoor rock climbing and how the sport connects to his work in security with skills like problem solving, mental mapping, and dealing with constant change.

Connect with Jason: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrebholz/

Teach Me Cyber on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@teachmecyber

Weekend Byte Newsletter: weekendbyte.teachmecyber.com

Learn more about Corvus Insurance: https://www.corvusinsurance.com/

Identiverse Regional Event - Chicago: https://bit.ly/IDVR23-IDAC

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In episode #248 of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman welcome special guest Kaliya Young, also known as the Identity Woman. They dive into the fascinating world of decentralized identity and explore its challenges and potential. Kaliya shares her journey into the field of identity, her involvement in founding the Internet Identity Workshop, and her work with the Identosphere newsletter. The conversation covers topics such as the hurdles faced by governments in implementing decentralized identity, the definition of decentralized identity, and the competition between decentralized identity standards. Kaliya also discusses her recent blog post on digital wallets and provides insights on the global nature of identity standards and the politics involved in their development. The conversation wraps up on a lighter note, with Kaliya sharing her best and worst water polo moments as a member of the Canadian national team.

Connect with Kaliya: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaliya/

Blog “Exploring Approaches to Digital Wallets”: https://medium.com/@identitywoman-in-business/exploring-approaches-to-digital-wallets-c1824c90480a

Learn more about Identity Woman: https://identitywoman.net/

Book “The Domains of Identity: A Framework for Understanding Identity Systems in Contemporary Society (Anthem Ethics of Personal Data Collection)”: https://www.amazon.com/Domains-Identity-Understanding-Contemporary-Collection/dp/1785274910/ref=sr_1_2?crid=190EJVT5Q9G6J&keywords=kaliya+young&qid=1700589700&sprefix=kaliya+young%2Caps%2C114&sr=8-2

Book “A Comprehensive Guide to Self Sovereign Identity”: https://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Guide-Self-Sovereign-Identity-ebook/dp/B07Q3TXLDP/ref=sr_1_3?crid=190EJVT5Q9G6J&keywords=kaliya+young&qid=1700589700&sprefix=kaliya+young%2Caps%2C114&sr=8-3

Identosphere newsletter: https://newsletter.identosphere.net/

Internet Identity Workshop (IIW): https://internetidentityworkshop.com/

Register for the free NYC and Chicago Identiverse regional events here: https://bit.ly/IDVR23-IDAC

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

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In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by special guest Matt Caulfield, Founder and CEO of Oort (now part of Cisco). They dive into various topics related to identity and discuss the big areas that need to be addressed in the field. They explore the challenges in Identity Threat Detection & Response (ITDR), the data plane side of identity, machine identity, and entitlement entropy. Matt shares his insights and expertise on these subjects, shedding light on the key issues and potential solutions. The conversation also touches on Matt's journey into the field of identity and how his role at Cisco has evolved with the acquisition. They wrap up the episode on a lighter note, asking Matt about his dream business related to outdoor adventures.

Connect with Matt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcaulfie/

Learn more about Oort: https://oort.io/

Register for the free NYC and Chicago Identiverse regional events here: https://bit.ly/IDVR23-IDAC

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Join Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman on Identity at the Center as they sit down with Kristina Yasuda, Product Owner, and Dr. Torsten Lodderstedt, Project Lead for the German EUDI Wallet project. Recorded at EIC 2025, this episode delves into the ambitious European Union initiative to create a digital identity wallet for all its citizens.

Kristina and Torsten discuss the vision behind the EUDI Wallet, the political will driving it, and the funding making it a reality. They explore the challenges and complexities of aligning multiple parties, standardizing technical specifications, and the goal of digitizing everything from government-issued IDs to driving licenses and ePrescriptions.

Learn about the Federal Agency for Breakthrough Innovation (SPRIN-D), the importance of a transparent and collaborative development process, and how Germany aims to provide a secure, privacy-preserving, and interoperable digital wallet ecosystem. The discussion also touches on digital sovereignty, the role of platform providers like Google and Apple, the aggressive timelines, and the potential global impact of this initiative.

Find out how the EUDI Wallet aims to put users in the driver's seat, ensure non-discriminatory access, and foster a flourishing digital economy in Europe.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction: Vision, Political Will, and Funding00:50 Blockchain vs Federated Identity: Bridging the Gap01:47 Welcome to the Identity of the Center Podcast03:18 Meet the Guests: German EUDI Wallet Project03:42 Christina's Journey into Identity06:05 Torsten's Background in Identity08:31 The EUDI Wallet Project: Scope and Goals12:19 Challenges and Opportunities in Digital Identity15:38 Production and Adoption of Digital Wallets20:53 Digital Sovereignty and Interoperability26:16 Government's Role in Digital Identity26:54 Certification and Recognition of Wallet Providers27:21 Cultural Differences in Government-Provided IDs27:53 Challenges and Timelines for Digital Wallet Implementation28:25 Legal Obligations and Compliance29:10 Public vs. Private Sector in Digital Identity30:13 Barriers to Widespread Adoption31:26 Complexities of Wallet-Based Systems33:23 Global Interoperability and Standards33:59 Technical Specifications and Convergence36:05 Multi-Step Process for Implementation38:26 Transition Period and Global Considerations42:49 Digital Driver's License and Real-World Applications46:17 Final Thoughts and Future Outlook46:23 Fun and Lighthearted Ending

Connect with Kristina: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinayasuda

Connect with Dr. Torsten: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-torsten-lodderstedt/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

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Keywords:

EUDI Wallet, Digital Identity, European Union, Germany, Kristina Yasuda, Torsten Lodderstedt, Identity Management, Self-Sovereign Identity (SSI), Digital Sovereignty, Interoperability, Technical Standards, OpenID, Verified Credentials, Federal Agency for Breakthrough Innovation, Sprint, EIC 2025, Government Issued ID, Digital Transformation, Privacy, Security, User Control, Mobile Driver's License, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald

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In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman dive into the world of Identity and Access Management (IAM) with their mailbag segment. They answer thought-provoking questions from listeners around the globe, discussing topics such as integrating IAM with legacy systems, emerging trends in IAM, the role of artificial intelligence in IAM, user-friendly IAM solutions, inclusive and accessible IAM, and managing machine identities at scale in microservices and containerized environments.

Jim and Jeff also share interesting experiences from their week, including showcasing the differences in IAM consulting between them and conducting an IAM workshop for those seeking to learn more about IAM. They also touch on the new AI Beatles song and wrap up the episode with a lighthearted discussion on favorite backyard BBQ party games.

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff welcome Dave Middleton, Senior Vice President at Bank of America responsible for IAM and Cryptography Product Management. Dave shares his insights on various topics related to identity and access management (IAM). The episode begins with a discussion on how Dave got into the field of identity and the role of a product manager. Dave also talks about his conference experiences and the importance of balancing security and usability in IAM solutions. The conversation then delves into the difference between digital identity and IAM, as well as the evolving landscape of Identity Governance and Administration (IGA). Dave provides his thoughts on risk-based access governance and the role of technologies like Zero Standing Privilege (ZSP) and User Behavior Analytics (UBA). To wrap up the episode on a lighter note, Dave is asked to choose a universe to live in between The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, and The Matrix.

Connect with Dave: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmidd/

Learn more about Year Up: https://www.yearup.org/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this special episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jim and Jeff take the stage in front of a live audience as part of the opening keynote at Authenticate 2023. Joined by three esteemed identity product managers, Mahendar from Ebay, Daniel from TikTok, and Christiaan from Google, they delve into a captivating discussion on the adoption of FIDO authentication, with a particular focus on passkeys. The hosts and guests share valuable insights into their roles at their respective organizations and provide firsthand experiences with implementing FIDO. The conversation covers a range of topics, from the early adoption of WebAuthN by Ebay to Google's recent transition to passkey by default. The audience gains exclusive access to the guests' perspectives on TikTok's decision to embrace FIDO and the roadblocks encountered during passkey adoption. Additionally, the hosts and guests explore the potential impact of AI on authentication in the future. Amidst the insightful conversation, the hosts also lighten the atmosphere with some lighthearted banter, discussing their hobbies and sharing personal experiences such as hiking Yosemite's half-dome. Tune in to discover which song Daniel would perform to go viral on TikTok and automatically enroll everyone in passkeys, and find out which of the three hosts found it most challenging to learn guitar, play golf, or navigate the world of digital identity.

Christiaan Brand from Google: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christiaan-brand-57373a5/

Daniel Grube from TikTok: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-grube-b5118993/

Mahendar Madhavan from Ebay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mahendarmadhavan/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

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In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman dive into the world of passkeys with special guest Ori Eisen, Founder & CEO at Trusona. They explore the importance of user experience (UX) in passkeys, Trusona's role in the IAM market, and the significance of FIDO in the industry. Ori also shares insights on his philanthropic initiatives, Thorn and Ball to All. Tune in for a fascinating discussion on passwordless authentication and more.

Connect with Ori: https://www.linkedin.com/in/orieisen/

Learn more about Trusona: https://www.trusona.com/

Thorn: https://www.thorn.org/

Ball to All: https://www.balltoall.org/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman host a discussion on passkeys with Pedro Martinez, the Business Owner for Digital Banking Authentication at Thales Group. They explore the concept of passkeys and their potential to replace passwords in authentication. Pedro shares insights on the security and user experience benefits of passkeys, as well as the challenges and benefits for different industries, particularly the financial sector. The conversation also touches on the control and synchronization of passkeys by major tech companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Google. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of passkeys and their implications for identity and access management. Connect with Pedro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedro-martinez-038338/ Learn more about Thales Group: https://www.thalesgroup.com/ Connect with us on LinkedIn: Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/ Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/ Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman dive into the world of identity standards and Microsoft Entra with their special guest, Pam Dingle, Director of Identity Standards at Microsoft. They explore Pam's identity origin story and discuss Microsoft's stance on standards. The conversation takes an in-depth look at Microsoft Entra, its target audience, and its differentiation from B2C Azure AD. AI is also a topic of discussion. Ending on a lighter note, Jim and Jeff chat with Pam about her experience renovating a Victorian house.

Connect with Pam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pameladingle/

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Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman discuss the fascinating world of biometrics with special guest Stephanie Shuckers, Professor at Clarkson University and Director of the Center for Identification Technology Research (CiTeR). Stephanie provides insights into her work at CiTeR and her journey into the field of biometrics. She explains various types of biometrics, including voice biometrics, and addresses concerns about privacy and biases. The conversation delves into the technical aspects of biometrics, exploring how it works behind the scenes and addressing the topic of deepfakes. Stephanie also shares her thoughts on backup plans when biometrics fail and the challenges of biometric performance. The episode concludes on a lighter note with a discussion about alternative authentication methods and the intriguing "dead finger problem."

Connect with Stephanie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-schuckers-13a44a9b/

Center for Identification Technology Research (CiTeR): citer.clarkson.edu

CiTeR YouTube Chanel: https://www.youtube.com/@citer2285

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by David Mahdi, CIO for Transmit Security, to discuss machine identity management. David shares insights into his role as CIO at Transmit Security and explains the concept of machine identities. They explore the differences between machine accounts and machine identities and delve into the importance of matching machine accounts to machine identities to avoid potential issues during human identity events. The conversation also touches on the need for multi-factor authentication for machine accounts and the impact of AI in this area. To wrap up on a lighter note, David shares his experience with the Star Wars Rise of the Resistance at Disneyland in California.

Connect with David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmahdi/

Learn more about Transmit Security: https://transmitsecurity.com/

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Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

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In this episode, Jim and Jeff discuss various topics including thoughts from the recent Oktane, Identity Week America, and SailPoint Navigate conferences. The hosts also provide a preview of their Authenticate 2023 keynote live show and reveal the scheduled guests, including Daniel Grube from TikTok, Christiaan Brand from Google, and Mahendar Madhavan from Ebay. The episode concludes on a lighter note with a discussion about best and worst airports and the best thing they ate that week.

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Jim and Jeff talk with Vittorio Bertocci, Principal Architect at Auth0, an Okta product unit, about the new OAuth 2.0 Step Up Authentication Challenge Protocol (RFC9470), his health, and the first things we will do with Apple Vision Pro.

RFC 9470 - OAuth 2.0 Step Up Authentication Challenge Protocol: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9470.html

Step Up from Lighthearted Joke to RFC Homage by Brian Campell: https://www.pingidentity.com/en/resources/blog/post/vittorio-bertocci-identity-community-contributions.html

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Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

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This episode is sponsored by Duo. Visit duo.com to learn more.

Join Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman on this sponsored episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, brought to you by Duo! We welcome back Matt Caulfield, VP of Duo and Identity at Cisco, to discuss the ongoing "identity crisis" in security, where 60% of attacks have identity as a key component. Matt introduces Duo's new Security-First IAM, a revolutionary approach that prioritizes security by making it the default, enabling easy passwordless adoption, and building in phishing resistance from day zero.

Discover how Duo is differentiating itself in a crowded market by focusing on end-to-end phishing resistance capabilities and user-centric security. Matt shares insights into Cisco's innovation culture, drawing from his experience as a founder and the integration of acquired technologies like ORT into Duo's identity intelligence, including a new trust scoring mechanism to identify compromised accounts.

We also delve into the powerful insights from Cisco Talos, whose research on identity-based attacks directly influences Duo's product development, and how customer feedback is shaping the future of identity security. Explore the exciting innovations in authentication, including Duo's proximity verification for phishing-resistant, passwordless access, and the continuous authentication capabilities powered by Duo Desktop and Identity Intelligence.

Finally, Matt discusses the impact of AI on identity security, both in enabling attackers and enhancing defense mechanisms like the new Duo AI assistant for administrators. The conversation concludes with a look into the future of identity, including the challenges and opportunities presented by machine and agentic AI identities, and the critical need for advanced authorization solutions.

Don't forget to visit duo.com for more information!

Chapter Timestamps:

• 00:00:00 - Introduction to the Identity Crisis and Security First IAM
• 00:02:22 - Welcome to the Identity at the Center Podcast & Sponsored Episode Introduction
• 00:03:00 - Introducing Matt Caulfield and His Journey at Duo/Cisco
• 00:04:35 - Defining the Digital Identity Crisis
• 00:06:04 - Understanding Security-First IAM
• 00:07:17 - Differentiating Duo's Identity Solution
• 00:08:36 - Cisco's Acquisition Strategy and Continued Innovation
• 00:10:55 - The Impact of Cisco Talos Intelligence
• 00:14:39 - Customer Insights and Challenges in Identity
• 00:16:50 - Is Authentication Solved? Innovation in Phishing Resistance
• 00:19:32 - AI's Impact on Identity Security and Future Threats
• 00:21:55 - How Duo is Leveraging AI Internally and for Customers
• 00:24:00 - Duo's Repositioning: From MFA to Identity and Access Management
• 00:25:27 - Shifting Metrics of Success for Duo Customers
• 00:27:44 - Workforce, Extended Workforce, and B2B Use Cases for Duo IAM
• 00:29:48 - Deep Dive into Proximity-Based Authentication
• 00:32:31 - The Importance of Phishing Resistance in Duo's Strategy
• 00:35:57 - Continuous Authentication and Shared Signals Framework
• 00:39:07 - Identity as a Core Pillar of SASE
• 00:40:32 - Why Shared Signals Framework is a Key Investment for Duo
• 00:43:25 - Future Outlook for Identity Practitioners: Passwordless and AI
• 00:46:27 - Agentic AI and the Future of Authorization
• 00:48:53 - Jim's Swag Tips for Identiverse
• 00:51:57 - Final Thoughts from Matt Caulfield

Connect with Matt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcaulfie/

Learn more about Duo: https://duo.com/

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#idac #IdentitySecurity #Cybersecurity #DuoSecurity

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast recorded live at the Identity Week America 2023 conference, Jeff is joined by guest co-host Ian Glazer of Weave Identity and Steve Hutchison, Director of Security Architecture at the Mitsubishi Bank of Tokyo. The main topics discussed include Hutch's entry into the field of identity and his role as a director of security architecture, his involvement with IDPro along with Ian, the panels at Identity Week America, the latest happenings with Ping and ForgeRock, predictions for big acquisitions, the direction of Microsoft Entra, and the current buzz surrounding IDPro, including a discussion on the upcoming CIAM BOK article written by Ian. The episode concludes on a lighter note with Hutch educating us about Dungeons & Dragons.

Connect with Hutch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sehutchinson/

Connect with Ian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iglazer/

Weave Identity: https://weaveidentity.com/

IDPro: https://idpro.org/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jeff is joined by Molly Taylor, Conference Producer for Identity Week America & Asia, and Jonny Drape-Comyn, Sales and Exhibition Manager for Identity Week America. They dive into various topics related to Identity Week, including the backgrounds of Molly and Johnny, the target audience of the conference, the planning process, the role of government in past conferences, and the future of Identity Week. They also touch on the location of booths and the exciting UK food scene. Tune in to gain insights into the world of identity and learn more about this engaging conference.

Connect with Molly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-taylor-fagan-2b657920a/

Connect with Jonny: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathandrapecomyn/

Identity Week America: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jeff interviews Jeff Reich, the Executive Director of the Identity Defined Security Alliance (IDSA), at the 2023 Identity Week America conference. They discuss the latest updates from the IDSA, including Cybersecurity Awareness Month in October, collaboration with the Secure Identity Alliance, and the upcoming Identity Management Day on April 9th, 2024. The conversation also explores the value of attending conferences like Identity Week America, particularly in terms of gaining insights from industry experts and networking opportunities. Jeff Reich shares his experience with government involvement in identity security, considering the significant government attendance at the conference. The episode wraps up with a lighthearted question about the "best worst thing" happening in identity.

Connect with Jeff Reich: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jreich/

Learn more about the IDSA: https://www.idsalliance.org/

Learn more about the SIA: https://secureidentityalliance.org/

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Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode, Jim and Jeff serve up a "garbage plate" of IAM (Identity and Access Management) topics. They discussed Jeff's week 1 Chicago Bears pick, Delta's SkyMiles program changes, their YouTube Channel, and the upcoming Oktane and Identity Week America events. They also touch on the issue of fragmented identity data, referencing an article by Lasse Andersen, CEO of IndyKite.

Forbes Article discussed: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2023/09/06/fragmented-identity-a-modern-business-nightmare/

Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/

Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of Identity at the Center, Jim and Jeff talk with John Morton, Field CTO and Cloud Solutions Engineering Leader at Britive about Just in Time (JIT) Access. The hosts ask Morton about his work at Britive and how JIT access works, including its relationship to zero standing privileges. The conversation also covers what business problems JIT access solves, whether it's just for cloud or on-prem, and how it might help organizations that use Snowflake or in DevOps automation.

Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmortonnotromnhoj/.

Learn more about Britive: https://www.britive.com/

Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/

Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff speak with Rich Dandliker, Chief Strategist with Veza, about the topic of Authorization. They cover several questions, including the rise of authorization in the past year, the importance of the human element in being successful with authorization, and the impact that AI is having on the authorization space. Additionally, they discuss the early XACML standards which have shaped how authorization is conducted today and some use cases where an authorization tool solved a real-world business problem.

Connect with Rich: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rich-dandliker-591381/

Learn more about Veza: https://www.veza.com/

Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/

Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman discuss quantum computing and its impact on identity and access management (IAM) with guests from Idemia, Teresa Wu and Olivier Nora. The main topics covered in the episode are how Wu and Nora got into the field of identity, and what is their role at Idemia, an explanation of quantum computing and its differences from standard computing, the term "Y2Q" and what it means for the future of computing, the problems quantum computing poses for IAM and which roles or sub-disciplines should be most concerned, and how someone in the IAM field can prepare for quantum, including whether new algorithms or IAM technologies will be needed. The episode ends on a lighter note with Wu and Nora sharing their favorite meals to prepare and the most underrated spice.

Connect with Teresa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresawu/

Connect with Olivier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliviernora/

Learn more about Idemia: https://www.idemia.com/

Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/

Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/octane/

Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman invite Dr. Andrew Stern, Founder & CEO at Revive Labs, to give a primer on cryptography. The conversation focuses on encryption and security, covering topics such as symmetric and asymmetric encryption, levels of encryption, hashing, and certificates. Dr. Stern also shares his background and experience, including his work as an Activate DARPA Fellow and his founding of Revive Labs. The episode concludes with a discussion on how encryption factors into quantum computing.

Connect with Andrew: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcstern/

Learn more about Revive Labs: https://revivelabs.io

Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/

Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/octane/

Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim and Jeff chat with Heather Flanagan, Principal at Spherical Cow Consulting, about the process of standards development in IAM. They cover her background in IAM, her work with IDPro, and the momentum the organization has seen in the past few years. Heather shares insights into the development of CIDPro, the Body of Knowledge, and other projects taken on by IDPro. They also discuss how interested contributors can get started, what makes a good standard, and how to get support from management. The episode ends on a lighter note with a Scotch whisky tutorial & tasting. Check out the links below and for more information about the Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023, Identity Week America, Oktane 2023, and the Authenticate Conference.

Connect with Heather: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hlflanagan/

Learn more about Spherical Cow: https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/

Spherical Cow?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow

Government-issued Digital Credentials and Privacy: https://idpro.org/government-issued-digital-credentials-and-privacy/

IDPro Body of Knowledge: https://bok.idpro.org/

IDPro GitHub: https://github.com/idpros

Find out more about the Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023 at https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/

Use the code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass for Identity Week America at https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/

Use the code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee for the Authenticate Conference at https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode, Jim and Jeff interview Ebony Love, Director of Cybersecurity Deployments with McDonald's. Ebony talks about a big project she did at McDonald's and how Identity is done on behalf of the business. She discusses the challenges of identity management for a large, decentralized network with legacy technology and how to solve these issues with management support. Ebony also shares her experience with management who may not be familiar with Identity and if they see the importance of it. Additionally, Ebony explains the role of onboarding in retaining talent and where McDonald's is in the journey to improving onboarding.

Connect with Ebony Love on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebonylove/.

Find out more about the Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023 at https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/

Use the code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass for Identity Week America at https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/

Use the code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee for the Authenticate Conference at https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter/X/Whatever.

In this episode of Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman and Jim McDonald are joined by Alejandro Leal, Senior Analyst at KuppingerCole, live from the EIC 2025 stage in Berlin, Germany.

Alejandro delves into the critical distinctions between misinformation and disinformation, exploring their historical context and how they manifest in today's technological landscape, particularly within social media and legacy media. He discusses the intent behind disinformation, often aimed at creating chaos or confusion, versus misinformation, which can be an unintentional spread of false or inaccurate information.

Chapters:

00:00:00 Defining Misinformation vs. Disinformation & Historical Context00:02:00 Introduction at EIC 2025 & Guest Welcome00:06:14 The Role of Intent, Generative AI, and Countermeasures00:12:15 Impact of Mis/Disinformation on Business, Politics, and Philosophy00:16:02 How Mis/Disinformation Intersects with Identity Management00:18:07 Balancing Anonymity, Privacy, and Truthful Content Online00:23:09 Connecting to Digital Identity, Verification, and Potential Solutions (AI Labeling, VCs)00:26:45 AI Guardrails, Free Speech vs. Hate Speech, and Authenticity00:29:24 Worst-Case Scenarios and the Global Impact of Mis/Disinformation00:31:24 Actionable Advice: Responsibility and Critical Thinking00:35:38 Book Recommendation: "The Question Concerning Technology"00:39:31 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts

Connect with Alejandro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandro-leal-a127bb153/

The Question Concerning Technology (essay): https://bpb-us-e2.wpmucdn.com/sites.uci.edu/dist/a/3282/files/2018/01/Heidegger_TheQuestionConcerningTechnology.pdf

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

Keywords:

IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Alejandro Leal, KuppingerCole, EIC 2025, Misinformation, Disinformation, Identity and Access Management, IAM, Digital Identity, Cybersecurity, Tech Podcast, Technology Ethics, Generative AI, AI Ethics, Truth in Media, Social Media Responsibility, Privacy Rights, Verifiable Credentials, Critical Thinking Skills, Fake News, Online Safety, Political Disinformation, Business Reputation, Philosophical Tech Discussions, Martin Heidegger, The Question Concerning Technology.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Baber Amin, Chief Product and Operating Officer at Veridium, discusses communicating IAM to the board. The main topics covered include how to approach the conversation about identity with the board or other senior leadership at an organization, what kind of questions about identity the board asks, how to get buy-in from senior leaders to invest in identity people, process, and technology, and where AI is taking the identity space. The episode ends on a lighter note with Amin discussing his recent completion of an Ironman 70.3 in Oregon and his least favorite candy.

Connect with Baber: https://www.linkedin.com/in/baberamin/

Learn more about Veridium: https://veridiumid.com/

What Directors Think 2023: https://www.diligentinstitute.com/research/what-directors-think-2023/

Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/

Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff welcome Andrew Shikiar, Executive Director & CMO of FIDO Alliance, for his sixth appearance on the show. They discuss the upcoming Authenticate 2023 conference, including its key themes, tracks, and speakers. Andrew also talks about the progress made by FIDO over the last year, the impact of FIDO's UX guidelines, and what's next for FIDO and the FIDO Alliance. The episode ends on a lighter note with a question about playing golf against an actor or musician.

Connect with Andrew: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewshikiar/

Learn more about the FIDO Alliance: https://fidoalliance.org/

FIDO UX Guidelines: https://fidoalliance.org/ux-guidelines/

Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/

Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm

Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff talk with David Lee, the Identity Jedi, about the latest trends and developments in IAM. They discuss how David got into IAM, The Identity Jedi newsletter, and his recently published book. They also pick his brain about a range of topics, including ITDR, Microsoft's work with Entra, Thoma Bravo's collection of Digital Identity companies, and the hottest technologies in the IAM space. The episode ends on a lighter note, with a discussion about the color of David's Identity Jedi lightsaber. Tune in to find out which color he chooses!

Connect with David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/identityjedi/

Check out David’s book “The Only One In The Room: The Unwritten Rules of Being Black In Tech”: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-only-one-in-the-room-david-lee/1143684588?ean=9781312534155

The Identity Jedi: https://www.theidentityjedi.com/

Authenticate Conference: Use code IDAC15PODCAST for 15% off your registration fees.

Learn more about the Authenticate conference: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/

Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.