With labor markets still undergoing unprecedented shifts and volatility, employers are increasingly strengthening their focus on retention and internal mobility. However, the shrinking life span of skills, changing attitudes to work, and the rise of AI are complicating factors here. So, how can employers ensure they support their employees' future development and drive internal mobility at a time of significant change that renders traditional career pathing irrelevant? My guest this week is JC Townend, CEO at LHH for the UK and Ireland. JC is a strong advocate of Career Activism, giving employees the tools they need to advance their careers in the way that makes the most sense for them. This can drive retention, supercharge internal mobility, and help ensure employers have the right skills available at the right time. In the interview, we discuss: Labor market trends Why HR should be building for the future for right now What is Career Activism The end of linear career paths Giving employees the tools to advance their own careers Switching disciplines and industries A mindset shift Gig assignments Building brand and reputation Hidden jobs markets Skilling for retention What are the benefits for employers? The impact of AI on jobs and careers What will work and careers look like in 3 years time? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In this conversation, Joel and Chad interview Stacey Gordon, founder and principal consultant at Rework Work, about unconscious inclusion, skills-based hiring, and the politicization of DEI. Stacey emphasizes the importance of actively working towards unconscious inclusion. She discusses the need for dialogue and open conversations to bridge the gap between different perspectives. Stacey also addresses the challenges of changing mindsets and the role of education in DEI. She highlights the benefits of skills-based hiring for diversity and inclusion and the need for ongoing training and implementation. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the politicization of DEI and the importance of shifting mindsets in the workplace. Takeaways Unconscious inclusion is the goal of DEI, where people are included without conscious effort or bias. Skills-based hiring can be a powerful tool for diversity and inclusion, as it focuses on the qualifications and abilities of candidates rather than their background or identity. Changing mindsets is crucial for progress in DEI, and ongoing education and training are necessary to shift perspectives and behaviors. The politicization of DEI can hinder progress, and it is important to have open conversations and bridge the gap between different perspectives. DEI is not limited to race, gender, or sexual orientation, but encompasses all aspects of identity, including socioeconomic status, religion, and language barriers. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 03:01 - Unconscious Inclusion: The Goal of DEI 08:11 - The Politicization of DEI: Challenges and Opportunities 11:21 - Changing Mindsets: The Key to Progress in DEI 18:45 - Bridging the Gap: Open Conversations and Different Perspectives 24:14 -The Power of Skills-Based Hiring for Diversity and Inclusion 27:26 - DEI Beyond Race and Gender: Embracing All Aspects of Identity 30:00 - Conclusion and Call to Action Keywords unconscious inclusion, skills-based hiring, DEI, politicization, diversity, inclusion, mindsets, education

Yehuda Beller, co-founder and CRO at Worklik joins the Chad and Cheese podcast for a session of Firing Squad. WorkLik is a video-based job platform that aims to improve the candidate experience and connect job seekers with employers. They focus on hourly workers and Gen Z job seekers who are tired of the traditional hiring process. They've raised $2.5 million in seed funding and are planning to raise a Series A round soon. They offer a pay-per-match model, where employers only pay when they match with a qualified candidate. Sounds familiar, but do they have something unique enough to make it out alive? Gotta listen. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 05:05 - The Name and Funding 06:15 - The Relevance of Video Resumes 07:51 - Funding and Advisory Board 09:13 - Background and Expertise of the Leadership Team 12:00 - Creating Video Intros and Work History 13:30 - Target Audience and User Experience 14:16 - Video Resumes and Risk Assessment 17:04 - Matching Candidates with Job Requirements 18:46 - Focus on Hourly Work and Part-Time Jobs 21:41 - Improving the Candidate Experience 24:43 - Emphasizing the Human Connection 26:13 - Engaging Candidates Through Chat Messaging 29:46 - Expanding Reach Through Social Media 35:16 - Pay-Per-Match: A Cost-Effective Model

Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests. Episodes mentioned in this Round Up: Ep 597: Talent Acquisition Excellence Ep 598: Building Exec Search In House Ep 599: Data Sophistication Ep 600: Did We Predict The Future? Ep 601: Quiet Hiring Ep 602: The Skills Mismatch In Hiring Ep 603: Talent Lessons From Elite Sport Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts

In this riveting episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman take the stage at Transform in Las Vegas, Nevada, alongside a distinguished panel of HR leaders. Carolyn Frey from Hungry Root, Jessica Swank from Box, and Joey Lee from Panda share their unfiltered insights on a broad range of pressing HR topics. From leveraging AI in talent acquisition and management to navigating the complexities of remote work, this episode is packed with thought-provoking discussions. The panelists delve into how their organizations are pushing the envelope in HR technology, addressing talent shortages, and fostering diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging in today's evolving workplace. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that punches the recruiting industry right where it hurts, all while offering loads of snark and invaluable perspectives on HR's future.

Companies can learn a massive amount from elite sports in terms of spotting and nurturing the talent required to build highly effective teams. Having an adaptable, flexible, and self-aware mindset is critical in these disruptive times, and professional sports have coaching models that can help leaders develop this mindset in their teams. I was lucky enough to speak to former England Cricket Captain Sir Andrew Strauss at the recent Transform conference in Las Vegas. After his playing career finished, Andrew ran elite cricket in the UK for four years. He is now the co-founder of Mindflick, a high-performance coaching business that uses psychology and technology to make the lessons from elite sports accessible to companies. In the interview, we discuss: What can elite sports teach business about leadership? Learning how to be adaptable in dynamic environments The importance of self-awareness Understanding how teams react under pressure What makes top talent Understanding and accepting weaknesses  The role of technology Getting buy-in and building an emotional connection with a group vision Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Paying employees as soon as they clock out of a grueling day of work seems like science fiction, but it shouldn't. That's why we invited Nico Simko, founder & CEO at Clair, a company who helps employees get paid as soon as possible to the podcast. Nico's also a Forbes 30 Under 30 and a Harvard grad. Founded 2019, they've raised $194.6M, and have 80 employees. But while it's as common sense idea, it's not without its detractors, including those who claim businesses like his are just a payday loan scam preying on the poor and desperate. So, an invaluable tool to improve retention and solve the problem of absenteeism, or the devil? You decide.

Strap in for Talent Chasing, the podcast that throws you into the twisted maze of finding top-notch talent while shamelessly flaunting its sports-meets-business swagger. Brought to you by a trifecta of hosts including MLB baseball’s big shot, Brian Johnson, a workforce wizard, Chad Sowash, and a no-nonsense storyteller, Jasper Spanjaart, this show serves up a winning combination of Major League sports glam and corporate ruthlessness. Expect an all-access pass to the cutthroat world of scouting and corporate talent, where the game isn't just about numbers—it's about wrangling those elusive MVPs for your team. Get ready to dive deep into the psyche of the talent game as our Jasper, Chad, and Brian dissect the delicate balance between gut instincts and data-driven decisions. With high-stakes anecdotes, real-life stories and insider insights, Talent Chasing will make you question everything you thought you knew about talent acquisition. So tune in, because the war between old-school scouting and high-tech analytics is about to get a whole lot louder.

Skills-based hiring is a hot topic as many employers seek to better understand the skills they need in their businesses both now and in the future. With the shelf life of hard skills shortening by the day, companies need to bridge the gap between talent acquisition and talent management to ensure that they are hiring for the skills that actually drive value for the business. My guest this week is Jason Putnam, CRO at Plum. Jason has tremendous experience in the industry and is continually talking to senior corporate leaders about their skills strategies. He has some interesting and unique insights to share, and this is a must-listen for everyone trying to make sense of skills-based hiring. In the interview, we discuss: The current market challenges Are companies prioritizing talent management over talent acquisition? How is the relationship between the talent management and talent acquisition function evolving? The shortening shelf life of hard skills and the importance of soft skills The mismatch between the skills employers hire for and the skills they actually value in their organizations Skills and productivity Are mapping skills within the organization necessary or even possible? How job seekers' use of AI will change talent acquisition. What does the future look like Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Nothing strikes fear into the hearts of employers or the vendors that service them quite like the threat of a lawsuit. These days, legal challenges and the opportunity to take a business to court are aplenty ... compliments of artificial intelligence. Whether it's an entire block of countries like the EU, or individual states like California and New York, the risk of new laws and regulations putting an organization at risk are higher than they've ever been. That's why we had to get Guru Sethupathy, co-founder and CEO at FairNow, a company that helps ensure your AI solutions are compliant and well-governed, on the show for a quick check-in not the current State of AI. Whether it's the UK adopting it’s own alternative approach to regulating AI, California's Safe and Secure Innovation for Frontier Artificial Intelligence Systems Act, NYC Local Law 144 or even India's latest regulations on hiring, we need a guru - yep, pun intended - to help us better understand what's going on. It's a must-listen if your hiring practices leverage AI or if your company provides such services to employers.

Skills shortages, shortening skills lifespans, digital transformation, the AI revolution, hiring freezes and layoffs. These are just some of the factors currently reshaping how companies think about talent. It's clear that this level of disruption is now the new normal rather than a short-term trend. So, how do TA teams respond, and what role do they have in helping employers redefine their thinking about talent, skills, and hiring? My guest this week is Rich Wilson, CEO and Co-Founder of Gigged.Ai. Before he became a founder, Rich had a successful career as a recruiter and spent time as a Gartner analyst specialising in digital transformation and the future of work. In our conversation, we discuss skills-focused strategies to reinvent hiring and the part TA teams have to play in this critical transformation. In the interview, we discuss: Skill shortages and layoffs The shortening lifespan of skills Switching from cap-ex to op-ex Future of work trends How AI is creating new workforce opportunities Internal mobility, upskilling, reskilling and contingent hiring New ways of getting skills into the business Talent sharing and open innovation How does TA need to think differently about talent? What will the talent space look like in five years? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcast.

Join us on "The Chad and Cheese Podcast" for a lively and enlightening conversation with Natalie Stones, the founder of Talent Collective. In this episode, titled "Unleashing Talent: The Natalie Stones Interview," we delve into Natalie's passion for talent acquisition, her journey from corporate recruiting to building a thriving community for women in recruiting, and her adventures in fractional recruiting. Natalie shares her insights on AI in recruiting, the challenges of unbiased hiring, and the current trends in talent acquisition. We also discuss the changing landscape of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives, the rise of fractional work and its impact on women, and the evolving dynamics of the workforce post-pandemic. Don't miss Natalie's candid thoughts on LinkedIn and the role of recruiting technology in shaping the future of talent acquisition. Tune in for an episode packed with humor, snark, and thought-provoking discussions that redefine the world of recruiting. 

I launched Recruiting Future nine years ago to attempt to understand the future of talent acquisition. Back then, social media was the biggest driver of change, and we were starting to realize how much new technologies would change the world. Predicting the future is always risky; however, if you approach things correctly, you can spot the trends that will stick and get a sense of what is likely to happen. I'm actually launching a short digital course next month to teach you some tools and techniques to do this. You can join the VIP waitlist for early access and a discount by going to mattalder.me/course  Back to the 600th episode. To celebrate this landmark, I invited my long-time collaborator and co-author, Mervyn Dinnen, to a studio in London to explore just how accurate some of the predictions we made in a whitepaper back in 2006 about the future of work were and to discuss what we think will happen over the next decade. There is also a video version of this podcast that you can find by following the link in the show notes. In the interview, we discuss: When I first told Mervyn I was launching Recruiting future Tasks, not jobs, in a skills-based future How the pandemic accelerated trends that were already there Is "return to the office" HR's version of the culture wars Why we thought recruiting would be "Tinderized." The long-predicted demise of the resume Talent Marketplaces What does the next ten years look like Total Talent Thinking Where is the humanity in the AI-driven future of work? What is going to happen over the next 12 months Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

It’s been a tough couple of years for Talent Acquisition. There was a time during the post-pandemic hiring wave when companies were struggling to recruit enough recruiters. Now, the situation is the polar opposite, with TA teams shrinking and many recruiters being laid off. In such economically uncertain times, it’s difficult to determine whether AI is starting to be a factor that impacts jobs in TA. However, based on current adoption rates, it’s probably fair to say that AI is still only a minor contributor to the overall situation. But this is quickly going to change. As employers start to look at transforming TA over the longer term, AI and automation will inevitably play a significant role in shaping the TA teams of the future. This raises important questions about job displacement and reskilling. These are not just questions that AI raises for TA; they are questions that span the entire organization, with a strong likelihood that all jobs will be impacted in some way. So, how can employers prepare their workforce for these impending changes, and what is the likely split between job replacement, job enhancement, and job creation? My guest this week is Kamal Ahluwalia, President of Ikigai Labs and former President of Eightfold AI. Kamal has extremely well-informed insights on AI’s impact on jobs and skills and valuable advice for employers and employees. In the interview, we discuss: The impact of AI on work and jobs Jobs eliminated, jobs changed, jobs created Building scenarios for the future The critical importance of data How should employers be responding What is the role of HR and TA? Evolving processes to meet new objectives Reskilling and upskilling How do employers encourage people to learn new skills? What will work be like in five years? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

This week we welcome Peter Weddle CEO at TATech From North Virginia, arguably the most beautiful part of the USA. With 26 books written and a columnist for the Wall Street Journal Peter’s insight into the world of work, he shares sage advice to those considering what AI will do for the Recruiter. The early days of TATech the foundation was to create a trade organization and Code of Ethics. Creating a trust source for buyer and TA Tech vendors. The one and only TATech Buyers guide was born. Peter and his team have created the incredible opportunity for TA Tech to come together with investors & analysts to make deals happen.  Mic drop, TA should manage HR, makes perfect sense.  

The last time Chad & Cheese welcomed Jeff "The Job Board Doctor" Chasey-Dickens to the podcast, chaos ensued as Cheese's Four Horsemen of the job board apocalypse rode wild in a healthy debate on the future of job boards. This time, the doc brings his own flavor of death and destruction he sees for the job board industry, dubbed Unholy Trinity. Three isn't as much as four, but the despair is no less frightening. If you're a job board owner or employee, it's a must listen.

The podcast episode features Darrian Mikell, co-founder and CEO of Qualifi, discussing the evolution of his company and its impact on the recruiting industry. Mikell shares insights on Qualifi's journey from a simple phone interview automation tool to an end-to-end screening solution, emphasizing the importance of capturing the voice of candidates beyond resumes. He also delves into the challenges of market education and the potential of using AI and automation in recruiting while maintaining a focus on diversity and inclusion. The conversation also touches on Mikell's personal journey, his experience working with family in business, and his competitive spirit, reflecting both in his athletic background and business ambitions.

We live in a world of work where understanding, interpreting and telling stories with data has never been more critical. Although Talent Acquisition has become more data-centric in recent years, many TA functions rely on summary statistics that don't provide a sophisticated enough platform to use data to inform and influence their organizations properly. So, what can TA leaders do to make their data strategies more effective? My guest this week is Ben Porr, Chief Customer Officer at Harver. In our conversation, Ben offered some highly actionable advice TA leaders can follow to level up and tell compelling stories with data. In the interview, we discuss: Why data is so essential in TA Answering questions with data rather than with opinions or assumptions What organizations are missing out on if they only use summary statistics What are the innovative organizations doing? AI and automation What are the most critical data sources? Pivot table versus data visualization Human in the loop Using data to shift strategies How AI will empower decision-making based on smaller sets of data What will the future look like? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In this episode of the podcast, the boys dive deep into the world of talent strategy and employee satisfaction with Dr. Jim Kanichirayil, VP of growth at EngageRocket, researcher, writer, podcaster, and a seasoned professional in the tech industry. Dr. Jim sheds light on the dissatisfaction brewing among workers within traditional employment structures, pointing towards the rise of freelance work and the gig economy as potential alternatives. We explore the phenomenon known as the "Great Resignation" and its lasting impact on the workforce, uncovering underlying issues like stagnant wages, layoffs, and limited career growth opportunities. The financial toll of attrition on organizations is also brought to the forefront, highlighting the significant costs associated with replacing employees. As Chad and Joel question why talent acquisition professionals aren't taking more proactive measures to address retention and productivity concerns, Dr. Jim suggests that short-term fixes often take precedence over long-term talent management strategies. He stresses the crucial role of effective leadership and managerial support in retaining employees. Throughout the discussion, we delve into key aspects of employee retention and development, including brand integrity, onboarding processes, and the importance of clear communication. Dr. Jim draws parallels between corporate practices and military training, emphasizing the need for continuous learning and development. We also explore shifting attitudes towards stability and career paths among different generations, advocating for a more flexible and entrepreneurial approach to career management. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the importance of organizational adaptation to meet the evolving expectations and aspirations of employees, fostering long-term engagement and loyalty.

Executive Search is often considered so specialized that it should always remain the preserve of Exec Search agencies. However, an ever-increasing number of large employers are now choosing to build in-house executive search functions. So what are the advantages of doing this, how do you do this, and what is the ongoing impact from tighter talent markets and innovations in technology My guest this week is Katie Howard, Global Talent Acquisition Luxury and Lifestyle Lead at IHG. Katie made the switch from Search Agency to in-house just over a year ago and has been helping set IHG up for success in a highly competitive market for senior talent. In the interview, we discuss: The difference between agency and in-house The current challenges in the senior talent market within luxury hospitality How IHG differentiates itself Approaching and engaging with global talent pools Non-linear careers and talent mobility  Managing stakeholders in large matrix organizations Making the candidate experience match the luxury guest experience DE&I Rethinking onboarding Advice for anyone setting up an in-house function The role of AI in executive hiring What does the future look like? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

I was delighted to hear two of my regular guests on Recruiting Future were writing a book together. “Talent Acquisition Excellence” by Kevin Wheeler and Bas Van De Hatred is now available, whether you get your books, and it is brilliant to welcome them both back to the podcast to talk about it. Kevin is the founder of The Future of Talent Institute and is highly respected for his skills in predicting how Talent Acquisition and HR will develop and evolve. Bas is a consultant whose keen sense of curiosity has helped him map the evolution of assessment technology and deliver an annual state-of-the-nation report on corporate career sites. In our conversations, they bring different perspectives to the concept of Talent Acquisition excellent, offer some actionable advice and give us a sense of what the future might hold. In the interview, we discuss: What is talent acquisition excellence? Why AI could be more disruptive than the invention of the Internet Shifting mindsets Improving selection by using science Driving the evolution of recruitment marketing How the recruiting function will change, and what skills will recruiters need Why employers aren't moving quickly enough Where will TA be in a year? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Dive into the irreverent world of talent acquisition with Michael Goldberg, the Senior Director of TA and Sourcing at US Renal Care, on The Chad and Cheese Podcast. Recorded live from TA Week, this episode is not your typical HR talk. Michael, with over two decades in the recruiting game, shares his unfiltered take on balancing tech and human touch in the industry. Expect a mix of hard-hitting insights, candid anecdotes, and a good dose of humor as Michael talks about transforming decent recruiters into exceptional ones, all while navigating the AI-dominated future of hiring. From snarky remarks to deep dives into the soul of recruiting, this episode is a rollercoaster ride through the highs and lows of talent acquisition. Tune in for an episode that's as much about laughs as it is about learning.

TRF feat Bas Van de Haterd Co - Author of Talent Acquisition Excellence. Get it now on Amazon or anywhere you get your books! We welcome back our favorite Dutchman, Bas.  With 5 books published under his belt, Bas shares his inspiration for a truly global perspective on the TA profession and how partnering with the OG of TA, Kevin Wheeler was the perfect match. Spoiler Alert: There is no connection between formal credentials & on the job performance. RPO is a North American thing Don't bother advertising your job in the Middle East.  The Netherland’s solution to paid job advertising and how they have simplified the background check. An inspirational example of digital recruitment marketing.  Perspective check, Bas debunks the myth that AI will harm hiring. 

In case you missed it, automation, ranking candidates, DEI and managing applicants are all pretty popular solutions in the HR tech stratosphere. But all things for a 80 percent of the non-enterprise market? Well, that's a tough task to say that least, but startup SmartRank thinks they've got the secret sauce, promising to stack-rank and filter job applicants without using a resume, and helping companies achieve their DE&I initiatives by removing unconscious bias from the screening process. That's not all, but you get the idea. Do they have a better mousetrap or just another pile of mouse droppings? Gotta listen to find out.

TA Transformation has been a recurring theme on this podcast in recent months. A unique combination of macro and micro forces is driving the need for substantial change, compelling TA leaders to respond swiftly and strategically. Technology, particularly AI and automation, is very much at the heart of this transformation. But what does this mean for established ATS vendors? How are they adapting to the evolving market landscape, and how are their product strategies being shaped to anticipate the future? My guest this week is Rebecca Carr, the newly appointed CEO of SmartRecruiters. Previously serving as SmartRecruiters’ Chief Product Officer, Rebecca offers insight into the importance of a product-led approach in these rapidly changing times. She also shares her perspectives on the urgency of accelerating the leap from traditional ATS to the next generation of hiring solutions. In the interview, we discuss: The current state of the market Rethinking hiring The growing importance of hiring manager experience Why being product-focused is important in the current market. Accelerating the leap from second-generation ATS to third-generation hiring platform The impact of uncertainty around legislation and regulation AI education and adoption Adaptability and agility Advice to TA Leader on designing technology strategies What does the future look like Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

It is almost four years since the first pandemic lockdowns, and even now, it doesn't seem long enough to get a proper perspective on how much the pandemic has changed things. It is already pretty clear that expectations of and attitudes to work have shifted considerably, with significant implications for recruiting and retention. My Guest this week is Annette Andrews, Founder & Director of Acaria Coaching and a former Chief People Officer. Annette works with large organizations to help them adjust their people practices and policies to align with the post-pandemic perspectives of their employees and future employees. She has some valuable insights on what employers need to do to attract and retain the talent they need. In the interview, we discuss: The current challenges for employers and why these are different from what we've seen in the past. Benefits, culture and wellbeing Showcasing the employee experience Implications for retention The human impact of a deteriorating candidate experience Five generations in the workforce Dealing with systemic ageism Talent mobility across industries and disciplines Changing the structure of the people function. How technology will shape the future Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

These are turbulent times for talent acquisition, particularly for those teams operating in the technology sector. Despite the continuing demand for technology skills, layoffs are still happening, with many TA teams now considerably downsized from where they were a couple of years ago. Proving TA's strategic and monetary value has never been more critical, so how can TA leaders make their business case against such a challenging backdrop? My guest this week is Sam Bethoud, VP of Talent Solutions at hackajob. Sam combines his experience working with a vast number of talent acquisition leaders with hackajob's huge dataset to provide some excellent insights into the tech recruiting market and highly actionable advice on tactics TA can employ to prove the scale of its value to the business. In the interview, we discuss: The current state of the tech recruiting market TA's commercial impact How does TA create measurable monetary value? The importance of data How else can TA be strategic? Changing job seeker behaviour What impact will AI have on the future? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Rolondo Talbott. Rolondo Talbott (pronouns are he/him/his and we/us/ours) is a passionate DEI leader, veteran, neurodiverse individual who has several invisible disabilities and is driven by the mantra to, “Do Good, Seek Justice, and Correct Oppression.” Rolondo’s current role is in the entertainment sector but before that, he served as the Senior DEI Business Partner for Amazon’s Robotics and Artificial Intelligence Division, where he honed his ability to cultivate inclusivity and equity in global tech. Before that role, Rolondo was a DEI leader in higher education where he studied the intersections between DEI and technology in examining new and innovative ways to make tech and digital more inclusive. But Rolondo’s passion for DEI extends beyond the corporate world. Rolondo’s accolades as an author and columnist further illustrate his dedication to promoting diversity and inclusion in his personal life. His initial children’s book, “Uniquely Me: A Celebration of Multi-cultural and Multi-ethnic Families,” received the prestigious 2017 Children’s Book of the Year award from Disney’s Parenting magazine, “Babble.” And his short-form novel, “1000 Papercuts,” delves into the profound impact of microaggressions on children and can be found in public school libraries across Southern California. His insights and experiences have not gone unnoticed in the media. Rolondo has been featured in Voyage LA online magazine as part of their “People to Know” segment, and he was highlighted in Shoutout LA online magazine’s ’Unique Perspectives” segment. His wisdom and perspective have become valuable touchstones for those seeking to create more equitable environments. In addition to his prolific work, Rolondo is also contributing to groundbreaking research on workplace equity, collaborating with LinkedIn and the University of Southern California’s Race and Equity Center. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, the boys dive into the world of recruitment aggregators and the challenges they face with the rise of AI in talent acquisition. They discuss how some aggregators are adapting with personalization and AI capabilities, while others struggle to evolve and invest, potentially leading to their demise. The podcast also covers the potential rise of pay-per-apply models driven by AI predictions. Plus, they share their thoughts on recent industry news, including the shutdown of Finnish HRtech startup Workfellow, the launch of Amsterdam-based Samen Slimmer AI's venture Qneiform, the legal ruling affecting anonymity of reviewers on sites like Kununu, HelloWork's impressive growth and the birth of JobiJoba (what?) and a whole lot more.

With the development and adoption of AI accelerating at an unprecedented pace, the demand for data scientists and data skills in general is snowballing. To recruit successfully in this competitive talent market, TA teams must understand the specific data skills their organisation needs and the intrinsic career motivations of the data professionals they seek to engage with. My guest this week is Akshay Swaminathan, Head of Data Science at Cerebral and co-author of a new book called "Winning With Data Science". In our conversation, Akshay offers an insider view on the data science talent market, what motivates data scientists to move companies and the most effective recruiting process for people with this skillset. Essential listening for anyone recruiting data science professionals or working in talent markets with similar skills shortages. In the interview, we discuss: The growing demand for data science professionals The specific data skills that employers currently need Is there any consistency in data science job titles? What would motivate a data science professional to move jobs? How should recruiters source and engage in this talent market What type of hiring process will drive the most successful outcomes? Gig working and fractional working Creating business value from AI What skills will be needed in the future as the development and adoption of AI ramps up? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Live from TA Week at the Qualifi booth, the boys sit down with Carrie Corcoran, a leading expert in employment branding and recruitment marketing. With her extensive experience in the industry and her passion for helping businesses create inclusive and diverse work environments, Carrie is a force to be reckoned with. In this episode, we dive deep into the world of employer branding and discuss its importance in attracting top talent. Carrie shares her insights on how companies can leverage technology to improve the candidate experience and create a positive employer brand. As the founder of Carrie Cares Employment Brand Consulting, Carrie has helped numerous businesses develop and implement effective strategies to improve their employer brand and recruitment efforts. She is also a strong advocate for the over 50 workforce, believing that they have a wealth of knowledge and experience to offer companies.

Work and jobs are changing, and the speed of change continues to accelerate. Whether you are in the fourth decade of your working life or looking for your first job, managing a career against this background of disruptive, often unpredictable change is a challenge for everyone. Things are also being made worse by continuing pay inequality and workplace bias. My guests this week are Grace Puma, the former COO of Pepsico and Christiana Smith Shi, the former President of Direct to Consumer at Nike. Grace and Christiana have recently authored a book called "Career Forward - Strategies from Women Who Have Made It". The motivation behind writing the book was to empower women to maximise their career journey, get paid what they are worth and navigate the unexpected shifts that happen in the current world of work. There is some excellent advice here that Grace and Christiana believe is applicable to everyone looking to develop their career in our turbulent times. In the interview, we discuss: The Career Forward Mindset Having a "Cardinal Direction" instead of a North Star The importance of mentors and sponsors Steering into the skid to deal with unexpected challenges Building career equity Dealing with pay inequality Reinventing work-life balance How can employers make the workforce fair and equitable? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

TRF welcomes Chano Fernandez Co-CEO of Eightfold Chano brings an impressive track record with his career built in the HR Tech world and his incredible depth of knowledge from industry giants like SAP and Workday We tackle the topic of how Eightfold, by design, has 2 CEOs. Chano shares his expertise on how AI is being applied for the betterment of HR within organizations.  Internal mobility is the top trend in our space, identifying skills development opportunities and how generative AI, like Chatbots can help co-pilot the HR professional and Leaders.  Advice for organizations considering Talent Intelligence platforms; ask yourself, “Am I ready for this?”  

Who's ready for a new generation to enter the workforce? Well, like it or not, Gen Z is on their way in, and - stop me if you've heard this one before - they're different from all the preceding generations. How exactly? Well, no clue. That's why we invited Anthony Onesto, advisor, chief people officer, Gen Z & Future of Work Visionary and author of The New Employee Contract to the podcast. All kidding aside, a generation who's grown up in the shadow of 9/11, the Great Recession and a global pandemic, all while never knowing a world without internet and a smartphone are bound to introduce a wide variety of nuance to the world. And that, of course, includes recruitment and retention in new and sometimes scary ways. If you're hiring Gen Z, and hoping they stay awhile, you owe it to yourself to tune into this episode.

The shelf life of skills is getting ever shorter, which has significant implications for talent acquisition. It is essential that TA leaders take an active role in developing the overall skills strategy for their business. If employers want to be effective skills-based organizations, it is clear that talent acquisition, talent management, L&D and strategic workforce planning must be closely aligned. My guest this week is Malcolm Taylor, Head of Capability at the UK Health Security Agency. In the last few years, Malcolm has led a highly effective initiative to use data to drive upskilling, talent development and talent acquisition. In our conversation, he shares valuable insights on skills strategy and some interesting perspectives on the likely role AI will play in L&D in the future. In the interview, we discuss: Why upskilling is so essential in 2024 The shortening life cycle of skills Engagement and retention Teaching people how to learn Mapping skills within the organization Can AI create a common skills language across professions? Data-driven decision making Community-based learning The role of TA in skills-based organizations The importance of removing silos in the people function. What does the future look like? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts

Matt Fischer, President and COO of Bullhorn, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss the evolution of Bullhorn and the future of the recruiting industry. Fischer shares his background and how he got into the staffing and tech industry. He also talks about the importance of AI in recruiting and how it can optimize the human element of the job. The conversation covers Bullhorn's recent acquisition of Textkernel and the benefits it brings to the company. Fischer also discusses Bullhorn's marketplace and venture investments, as well as the state of the staffing industry. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:58 - Bullhorn's Evolution and Acquisition of Textkernel 08:39 - The Importance of Bullhorn's Marketplace and Venture Investments 11:05 - The State of the Staffing Industry 16:08 - No Immediate Plans for an IPO: Focus on Private Equity Sponsors Keywords Matt Fischer, Bullhorn, recruiting industry, AI, Textkernel, marketplace, venture investments, staffing industry

One of the most interesting and controversial book in the HR section in a long while! Hilke brings the investigative journalist and an industry outsider to her new book “The Algorithm: How AI decides who gets hired, monitored, promoted & fired & why we need to fight back now.” A fateful cab ride was the genesis of the book, when the Lyft driver was gobsmacked by being interviewed by a robot for a baggage handler job at the local airport, Hilke began her quest to learn more.  The one-way video interview and its inevitable demise when HireVue’s claims of facial expressions to predict candidate’s honesty was proven to be crap. Talent Intelligence platforms like Eightfold can prove to be a positive force in helping organization know who to promote and like any double edge sword, cursed for its contribution on who should be laid off,  How do we fight back? Hilke gives some sound advice to HR Leaders.  Crystal ball predictions for 2030, sound pretty accurate to us!

No one in the world of work likes form-filling, complex systems and bureaucracy. Yet, teams need to feel motivated, aligned, and accountable on the job, which usually means a lot of that stuff we hate. So what's an employer to do? OnLoop is here to turn every manager into a supercharged coach, and CEO and founder Projjal "JJ" Ghatak is on Firing Squad to try and prove his company has the juice to fulfill that promise and take it to established players like Lattice, 15five, Culture Amp and others. Does this former Uber executive's startup have what it takes to survive Chad & Cheese? Gotta listen to find out.

Conversations about AI's impact on recruiting tend to focus entirely on the employer and recruiter viewpoint. However, it may well be that the most potent force of change for talent acquisition comes from AI-facilitated shifts in jobseeker behaviour.  Employers are already seeing a rise in applications they suspect are being driven by AI tools that facilitate bulk applying. The use of LLMs to create or edit resumes is undoubtedly widespread, and we are also seeing examples of AI being used to hack online interviews and assessments. There is still much debate about where these activities fall on the scale, from legitimate assistance to outright fraud. What is very clear, though, is that this is an unstoppable tide that will have severe implications for recruiting processes. What do employers do when they are inundated by applications perfectly tailored to the role that are impossible to assess using current tools and techniques? My guest this week is Richard Collins, Co-Founder of CV Wallet. Richard has decades of experience in recruitment marketing and talent acquisition. He has recently been diving deeply into the issues caused by jobseeker use of AI and how the solutions to the problems might make recruiting better for everyone. In the interview, we discuss: The current talent marketplace AI-driven changes in job seeker and applicant behaviour The potential impact on the recruiting process Challenges of dealing with an increasing volume of applications Unreliable applicant data Pre-qualifying and pre-verifying without creating friction in the process Will we see a revolution in assessment and selection? How do we define what is cheating or fraud? A shift to assessing soft skills How does recruitment marketing need to adapt A cost-per-qualified application model Proactive versus reactive change How much change will there be in 2024 What does the future of recruiting look like? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In case you missed it, the nursing profession is going through a pretty challenging time. Whether it's COVID burnout, a severe lack of skilled workers or the Baby Boomers putting immense pressure on the health care system - just to mention a few - times are tough. It's certainly an issue Chad & Cheese aren't qualified to solve, let alone fully understand. That's why Dr. Beth A. Brooks, president of The Brooks Group, joined the boys to discuss a wide variety of topics, such as the current state of nursing, how the gig economy is impacting the profession, the power of pay transparency and if / when the robots will finally be the ones giving colonoscopies. It's a must listen for nurse recruiting professionals, healthcare networks around the country and, frankly, nurses themselves.

Round Up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests. Episodes mentioned in this Round Up: Ep 584: Talent-Centered Design Ep 585: Embracing Automation Ep 586: Removing Silos to Improve Hiring and Retention Ep 587: Getting The Basics Right Ep 588: AI, Background Checks and Quality of Hire Ep 589: Talent Acquisition As A Competitive Advantage Ep 590: The Road To 2030 Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

The last few years have taught us that no one can predict the future. However, you can develop the insight necessary to make accurate forecasts with the right combination of trend analysis and strategic thinking. We are currently in a period of accelerated change in talent acquisition, and it is essential to understand the direction of travel even if we can't predict the final destination. We must anticipate the skills that will be required in the future, how we can recruit them, and how talent acquisition must change to be fit for this new purpose. My guest this week is Russell Beck, Director of Inspiration at ImagineThinkDo and author of a new book called "The World Of Work to 2030". The book looks at the megatrends shaping the future, and Russell's background and experience in RPO means he can provide some relatable insights into the likely future of talent acquisition. In the interview, we discuss: Six megatrends shaping the future Future skills and how we hire them AI is removing your uniqueness. From STEM to STEAM Artistic engineers The cost of bad hiring How does TA need to change How can we future-proof our careers? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

As the debates about the future of talent acquisition rumble on, it's important to focus intensely on the critical value effective hiring brings to the organization. Talent remains a key differentiator that drives competitive advantage for a company, and this will be even more true in the future. My guest this week is Simon Taylor, Head of Organization Effectiveness at Gap Inc., who has authored a forthcoming book called "Build Smart: A Blueprint for Building a High-Performing Organization." Simon has a TA background and, in the book, outlines just how critical hiring is for companies. In our conversation, he shares his insights into what makes great hiring and its role in high-performing organizations. In the interview, we discuss: Common talent issues companies are facing. How important is recruiting in 2024? Competitive advantage from high-quality talent acquisition The long-term impact of bad hiring What makes a great hire The importance of potential Upskilling hiring managers and changing their mindset How to get buy-in across the organization Leveraging data to illustrate opportunities Why AI will be huge for talent acquisition Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

TRF welcomes Mike Ehrle CEO at ClickBoarding Bringing an impressive background in the employee benefit industry, Mike knows a great technology when he sees it.  The launch of their Click Retain product and the partnership with Alight to name a few.  Best practices for pre-boarding to eliminate day one ghosts Onboarding, listen to why anything above zero, is a problem. Prepare to be impressed, Mike give us some well informed predictions for 2024

The future of recruiting is a popular topic these days. With AI and automation tools that are on a whole other level to tech of the past, many wonder how the future will play out for the profession that has for so long been a staple of corporate strategy. Fortunately, we have wise ol' veterans who know the past, but can also see around corners better than most. Age and vision are in short supply. That's why we had Kevin Wheeler, author, speaker and founder of Global Learning Resources, to the podcast. Kevin has a new book coming out in February entitled, “Talent Acquisition Excellence: Using Digital Capabilities and Analytics to Improve Recruitment,” that will prove helpful to those hoping the navigate the future like an ancient oracle. We're talkin' predictions for 2024, the pandemic impact, labor uprisings, how the kids are alright, and much more. Listen, subscribe, like and share.

We say a lot of things on the podcast that people disagree with. Most people stop short of writing a blog post about how wrong they think one, or both, of us are. However, Jeff Dickey-Chasins, affectionately known as Job Board Doctor, decided to put the virtual pen-to-paper and express how wrong Joel was in his analysis of how job boards are facing a Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in the form of Google / LinkedIn, AI, automation and the gig economy. Just when you think the debate will get too nasty to take, Chad swoops in as peacemaker ... or is it instigator? A must listen for every job board employee and customer alike. The Doctor is IN.

The world of work is changing rapidly, and this swift pace of change is forcing employers to rethink the kind of talent they need within their organizations. Traits like curiosity, innovation, agility, flexibility, and problem-solving are now more in demand than ever. However, despite the desire to attract and retain individuals with these qualities, traditional recruiting processes can often repel them, and talent management strategies may overlook those who are already part of the organization. Retaining such high-value talent is also a significant challenge. So, what do organizations need to do to hire and retain the change catalysts and innovators they seek more effectively? And how can they better identify those already in their workforce? My guests this week are Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas from Catalyst Constellations. Tracey and Shannon define catalysts as the visionaries within an organization who quickly process information, translate it into actionable opportunities, and are relentless in driving positive change. They have a vast amount of insight to share with employers about identifying and nurturing catalysts and lots of advice for catalysts themselves around managing their careers and reducing burnout. In the interview, we discuss:  What is a catalyst, and what do they have in common Seeing risk differently Identifying the catalysts in your business The importance of organizational context Repurposing recruiting processes for diversity of thought New ways of thinking about Talent Management Breaking down silos and getting stuff done Work trauma Dealing with burnout What does the future of work look like? Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

This week on TRF we cover: Wayfair CEO says uses his outside voice - again. He thinks he’s Elon Musk and can get away with saying whatever pops into his head. Its cringe worthy. Flockity, friend of the show Tracy Parsons creates the first Influencer platform for jobs. Hiring Branch study shows some surprising data on language skills connection to success on the job. In the News Canada pumps the brakes on the number of International students, for all the right reasons. WebMD parent company Internet brands return to office video is so bad, we don't think their employer brand will ever recover. Tip of the Week The top 15 jobs people want to quit. This list is a recruitment marketer's dream. Leverage this for the skills that will easily transfer to your organization.  Recruiting Insights The weirdness of the US labour market continues. Job seeker behaviour is changing, more discerning than ever before.  Job postings in November took a nose dive and the rate of hiring dropped like a rock too, something we’ve not seen since the 2008 crash. Adriano Herdman strikes again. This week is the 21 Talent Acquisition Tatics comparison chart. Just brilliant.

Background checking is an area we've never really covered on the podcast. In the past, it has just felt like a necessary but very functional part of the hiring process. However, with the explosion in our digital footprints and the power of AI, that has now changed. So, how can background checks now help prevent workplace misconduct and improve the quality of hire? Where does AI fit in, and how can we ensure everything is legal and ethical? My guest this week is Ben Mones, CEO and Founder at Fama, an online screening technology company working with employers worldwide. If you haven't looked at what is happening in background screening for a while, this conversation with Ben will help you get up to date with what is possible. In the interview, we discuss: The impact of workplace misconduct Talent screening How background checks have evolved in the last 10. years The "Cambrian explosion" of digital information Using AI to unlock the signal from the noise The importance of applying human expertise and judgment  The dangers of hiring managers doing their own checking How does AI-driven screening work Legislation, Compliance, Ethics and Bias Improving the quality of hire What does the future look like Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

With so much focus on potentially AI-driven disruptive change and debate about the future, it is sometimes easy to forget that many employers are still struggling to develop and leverage their culture, and some still lack basic standardized processes for talent acquisition and other aspects of the people function.  Looking at what is happening in start-up and scale-up businesses is always interesting. They build business functions from a blank sheet of paper and often develop interesting new ways of thinking and working. My guest this week is Roza Szafranek, Founder and CEO at HR Hints. HR Hints acts as the external HR team to over 70 scaling companies. Roza has used this experience to develop the Culturivy method of building organizational cultures and processes, which she has shared in a recent book called Culturivy: The Power of Changing a Workplace. Roza believes employers should address some long-standing issues in TA, such as candidate experience and biased hiring processes. She also has a counterpoint view on the current efficacy of AI in hiring. In the interview, we discuss: Building and scaling organizational culture Managing a burnt-out workforce Leveraging culture to power engagement Practices, behaviours, and values How should companies think about talent? Strengthening the candidate experience Building a non-biased recruitment process Verifying candidates as a good match Will AI and Automation have the impact we think they will Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts