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Episode 2: What happens when we stop believing that truth, goodness, and beauty exist outside ourselves? In this episode of Holy Order, Bryan and Cooper begin a two-part series on C.S. Lewis' The Abolition of Man—one of his shortest yet most influential works. Starting with its surprising opening critique of a high school English textbook, they explore how modern education subtly teaches that values are merely personal feelings rather than reflections of reality.

The conversation introduces Lewis's understanding of natural law, the fact-value distinction, and why these ideas remain remarkably relevant more than eighty years later.

Episode 1: Bryan Hollon and Cooper Nye introduce the vision behind the podcast and the question that will shape every conversation that follows: What if the deepest problems of our age are ultimately problems of order?

Drawing on Scripture, St. Augustine, C.S. Lewis, and the Anglican tradition, Bryan explains that our lives are always ordered by what we love most. When our loves become disordered, our families, churches, and culture follow. But when our loves are rightly ordered toward God, we discover the peace, wisdom, and flourishing for which we were created.

Preview of episode 1 for Holy Order, a podcast from Trinity Anglican Seminary.