In this reflective and intimate conversation, Jenni Crowther; a 5/1 Splenic Projector and nomadic retreat guide, shares her story of surrendering to life’s invitations, living out of a bag for over a decade, and exploring Human Design through deep embodiment and meditation.
Jenni and Birgitte explore the power of the projector aura, the process of deconditioning, the aliveness found in stillness, and the mystical beauty of the Human Design mandala. A quiet yet potent invitation to let life move through you.
Key Takeaways:
❤️Jenni’s life radically changed during her Jupiter return, launching her into a nomadic lifestyle guided by spontaneous invitations.
❤️ Her first experience of Human Design felt like being seen for the first time, and offered her a map to understand herself.
❤️ Surrender has been a consistent theme: life often moves her before her mind can catch up.
❤️ Trusting splenic authority means saying yes in the moment and letting the rest unfold.
❤️ Meditation, especially in stillness, has helped her observe and regulate energetic patterns.
❤️ Sound and silence are both powerful tools. Jenni explores Tibetan throat singing, toning, and the vibrational environment around her.
❤️ As a Projector, she’s deeply aware of the responsibility of her penetrating aura and the need for consent and alignment.
❤️ How Jenni leads retreats and sessions with spaciousness, allowing participants’ inner authority to guide the experience.
❤️ Her practice is a fusion of deep structure and intuitive expression, rooted in years of mastery across multiple systems.
❤️ The Human Design mandala captivates her as a work of cosmic art, one she may explore further in her conference talk.
About Jenni Crowther:
Jenni Crowther is a 5/1 Splenic Projector with a deep background in yoga, meditation, and Human Design. For over a decade, she has lived nomadically, traveling and guiding retreats across Europe. Her work blends mystical inquiry with grounded embodiment, emphasizing surrender, presence, and spiritual integrity. A lifelong student of esoteric systems, she weaves Human Design into every aspect of her life and teaching.
Ready to feel the frequency of truth through embodiment, surrender, and presence? Join Jenni and other incredible speakers at the Holistisk Human Design Conference in Oslo September 17th - 21st 2025.
In this episode, James Alexander shares his journey as a 5/1 Emotional Manifesting Generator and triple split, and how Human Design came into his life through lived experience rather than theory. James emphasizes the importance of embodiment, somatic awareness, and bringing Human Design “down to earth.” He shares insights on emotional authority, the triple split process, and why deconditioning requires more than just knowing strategy and authority.
We discuss the current state of Human Design in the world, how to navigate misinformation, and the need for supportive, grounded teaching. James also talks about his personal connection to music, healing modalities, and why his work now focuses on clarifying and deepening the practical use of Human Design.
Key Takeaways:
Why emotional authority is more nuanced than a simple “wave” pattern.
The triple split experience: why “herding cats” is the perfect metaphor.
Undefined Spleen & Root centers: challenges with fear, health, and pressure.
The importance of somatic work and nervous system regulation in deconditioning.
Human Design’s blind spots: what Ra did (and didn’t) teach about the psychological process.
How the field of Human Design needs to embrace more nuance, patience, and embodiment.
06 - Meet Dirk Nellens: Human Design as a Lens for Compassion, Child Development & Self-Understanding
In this deep and illuminating conversation, Dirk Nellens, a 4/6 Reflector with a background in anthropology and body-based therapy, shares his unique and embodied perspective on Human Design. Dirk discusses the importance of seeing Human Design not as dogma, but as a living lens that invites curiosity, compassion, and self-inquiry. Together, we explore how conditioning, trauma, and child development intersect with the chart, and how Human Design can become a truly therapeutic, experiential journey.
Dirk also shares powerful reflections on deconditioning, the role of the reflector, the difference between individuality and individualism, and how Human Design can be misused to reinforce neurosis instead of supporting transformation. A must-listen for those craving depth, nuance, and authenticity in their HD experiment.
Key Takeaways:
Human Design should be a revelation, not a rigid doctrine - the chart reveals itself through lived experience, not mental understanding.
The difference between individuality (our undividedness with life) and individualism (egoic separation) is critical in how we apply HD.
Deconditioning is deeply therapeutic and benefits from being supported by modalities like body-based therapy, the Enneagram, and trauma work.
Reflectors experience deep sampling; Dirk shares insights on how the body, not the mind, holds the truth of authority.
Strategy and authority aren’t things to do, but inherent energetic laws we’re born with; embodiment comes first.
05 - Meet Emelie Eriksson: Identity, Honesty & The Courage to Be You
Season 2 · Episode 5
Sunday, May 25, 2025 • Duration 38:48
Read more about the conference: https://www.holistiskhumandesign.no/conference
In this heartfelt episode, we meet Emelie, a seasoned Human Design teacher from Norway, known for her grounded, soft-spoken, yet deeply insightful approach. Emelie shares her personal journey into Human Design, how the system helped her embrace her unique struggle, and why discernment, honesty, and awareness are vital in navigating inner authority. We explore how individual circuitry expresses itself, why melancholy isn't a problem for her, and the importance of finding back to yourself, not as an abstract idea, but as an embodied experience. This is a conversation about courage, the beauty of nuance, and the joy of being your own authority.
Key Takeaways:
Emelie discovered Human Design through a cabin conversation with friends, feeling deeply seen by the 28-38 channel before even seeing her chart.
Her approach blends Human Design, Gene Keys, and mindfulness, focusing on awareness, discernment, and honesty as essential tools.
Inner Authority isn't always black and white; Emelie emphasizes differentiating fear, desire, and genuine responses with self-honesty.
Individual circuitry brings melancholy and creative winters, but also exciting new springs of insight and expression.
Emelie prefers silence over music, highlighting how even the absence of sound can be a vital sensory experience.
She discusses the importance of avoiding dogma in Human Design and encourages using the system for personal empowerment, not as an external authority.
Teaching online allows her to focus on clarity without distractions, making the transmission of knowledge more precise.
04 - Meet Martin Grassinger: Body, Service & The Wisdom of Listening
Season 2 · Episode 4
Sunday, May 18, 2025 • Duration 47:03
Read more about the conference: https://www.holistiskhumandesign.no/conference
In this conversation, Martin Grassinger shares his deeply embodied approach to Human Design, health, and service. With a perspective grounded in three decades of experience, Martin speaks about the importance of relating to oneself through the body, the role of emotionality, the richness of music, and how true health stems from living in alignment with our individual nature. This is a soulful, grounded dialogue that invites us to slow down, listen deeply, and rediscover what it means to truly be of service, to ourselves and others.
Key Takeaways:
Body First: Martin emphasizes Human Design as a body-centered system, focusing on how we relate to ourselves before the outer world.
Health as Alignment: True well-being arises from living authentically, respecting one’s design, and not identifying with external conditioning.
Emotional Authority in Practice: Martin shares how he navigates his emotional waves with intimacy, patience, and a wide palette of responses.
Music as Medicine: Martin reveals how music has been a constant thread of healing, expression, and connection throughout his life.
Wisdom in Simplicity: With a cross of service and a foundation in the 58/18, Martin’s teaching style prioritizes precision, experience, and relevance over information overload.
Respecting Individual Nature: Whether working with clients or family, Martin highlights the importance of honoring the unique rhythm and needs of each person.
About Martin Grassinger:
03 - Meet Therese Jagersberger: Presence, Guidance & The Art of Being Projector
Season 2 · Episode 3
Sunday, May 18, 2025 • Duration 01:13:53
Read more about the conference: https://www.holistiskhumandesign.no/conference
In this enriching conversation, Birgitte sits down with Therese Jagersberger, a deeply experienced Human Design Guide and self-projected Projector, to dive into the true nature of Projectors, what it means to be recognized, and the healing journey back to self-love. Therese shares her personal experiences from Ibiza, her work with children and parents, and how sound, movement, and deep rest are integral parts of well-being. Together, they explore the challenges of navigating a fast-paced world as a Projector, the nuances of success, and the power of being truly seen.
Key Takeaways:
The Projector Aura: Understanding how Projectors guide through recognition and why being seen for your unique gifts is crucial.
Bitterness, Guilt & Healing: The importance of recognizing bitterness not as failure but as feedback and choosing self-love over self-blame.
Visibility & Invitations: Practical ways Projectors can make themselves visible without forcing, through joy, creativity, and simply being.
Success Redefined: Why true success for a Projector is rooted in well-being, rest, and living aligned with their energy.
Sound & Healing: Therese’s personal journey with music, sound healing, and how frequencies help release emotional and physical tension.
Generational Conditioning & Deconditioning: Stories from her own family and client work illustrating how Human Design helps break cycles of stress and burnout.
Living the Cross of Healing: Therese’s perspective on healing as returning to wholeness and loving oneself as they are.
Read more about the conference: https://www.holistiskhumandesign.no/conference
In this episode of the Holistic Human Design Conference Podcast, we dive deep with Guido, an original student of Human Design with over 30 years of experience. As a manifester with the emotional 12-22 channel, Guido shares a raw and honest conversation about emotional processing, the impact of conditioning, and the courageous act of truly expressing oneself.
We explore topics ranging from the deep layers of emotional authority, the challenges of deconditioning, to the powerful metaphor of “cutting the umbilical cord” from societal and familial expectations.
Whether you’re curious about how Human Design can support emotional healing or want to feel seen in your own struggle for self-expression, this conversation is a must-listen.
Key Takeaways:
Emotional Honesty Over Emotional Control: Guido shares his long journey of learning to express emotions authentically, without making impulsive decisions based on emotional waves.
The Power of Expression for Manifestors: Informing reframed as “expressing”; allowing emotions, even anger, to be expressed without fear of rejection or misunderstanding.
Conditioning Runs Deep: A candid reflection on how early childhood experiences and societal norms shape our emotional expression and how difficult (but essential) it is to decondition.
The Matrix, Mothers & Emotional Independence: Guido speaks to the metaphor of still being energetically attached to our mothers and how true personal freedom requires emotional separation.
Music & Emotional Processing: An intimate story of how losing and regaining hearing in one ear became a symbolic healing journey through music, connecting his 12-22 channel to health and emotional well-being.
01 - Meet Birgitte Bakke: Sound, Struggle & The Beauty of Being Human
Season 2 · Episode 1
Sunday, May 18, 2025 • Duration 01:03:06
Read more about the conference: https://www.holistiskhumandesign.no/conference
In this special episode, we turn the microphone around and interview Birgitte, the main host of this podcast season and one of the facilitators of the Holistic Human Design Conference 2025.
We explore Birgitte’s deep connection to sound, her journey with Human Design, and the profound role of melancholy and struggle in her life. Birgitte shares how music and sound have been both her personal sanctuary and a transformative tool in her therapeutic work, and why embracing the full spectrum of human emotion is essential for true healing.
This conversation is a heartfelt reminder that being human isn’t about avoiding the lows, but learning to sit with them.
Key Takeaways:
Sound as Therapy: Birgitte explains how she discovered the power of using her voice and sound vibrations directly into the body, bypassing mental defenses and reaching deep into the nervous system.
Group Dynamics & Sound: Birgitte shares how group sound experiences create collective resonance, often reaching depths that individual sessions can't, and why she loves working with large groups as a triple split and MG.
Melancholy as Medicine: As a being with the channel of struggle and as a 6/2 profile, Birgitte shares how melancholy is a vital part of her creative and healing process and why we shouldn’t shy away from these "low frequency" emotions.
Life on the Roof & Coming Down: With just two months left before her Chiron return, Birgitte reflects on her time "on the roof" and the personal transformations that have prepared her to step into the role model phase.
08 - Møt Ivar Vehler
Episode 9
Saturday, March 9, 2024 • Duration 59:25
Ivar er ikke en Human Design nerd, men gjennkjenner klangen av sannhet i kartet sitt som en 6/2 emosjonell MG født på "Cross of Informing".
Essensen i Ivars kors.
Hvordan Ivar opplever livet "av taket" som en 6-linje passert Chiron til forskjell fra å nylig vært "på taket".
Trang vs. vilje til å komme av taket.
Tema Ivar formidler omhandler dype menneskelige prosesser.
Hva betyr det å være orientert mot visdom?
Behov lukker døren.
På konferansen skal Ivar snakke om passenger consciousness; hva det er og ikke er og utfordringer Human Design miljøet har rundt forståelsen.
Lese kunnskap vs. å integrere kunnskap er en modnings jobb.
Er du dine egenskaper?
Rydde jobben i seg selv: hva vil det egentlig si å leve designet?
Hva er du egentlig? Jeg er vs. Jeg uttrykker.
No choice som ansvarsfraskrivelse.
Er det Ra som er klok eller systemet?
Umodenheten systemet møtes med.
Er passenger consciousness noe man oppnår?
No choice / Fritt valg / Mønstre.
Ansvar i passenger consciousness.
Solar Plexus er i en modningsfase.
Følelser vs. emosjoner.
Det i deg som er av en annen kvalitet.
Ra vs. Rudd.
Finn Ivar på: http://www.co-create.no/
Ivar er også på Instagram: @ivarvehler
Ivar sin podcast "I lys av mindfulness" finner du hvor du lytter til podcasts:
I lys av Mindfulness (direkte link til Spotify).
07 - Møt Emelie Eriksson
Episode 7
Friday, March 8, 2024 • Duration 26:30
Emelie lever ut 5-linje rollen med 2 Instagram kontoer og flere podcaster på norsk og svensk.
The Channel of Struggle og å søke mening.
Lengselsen etter det som er ekte.
Emelie møtte veggen av å ikke være seg selv, og i den perioden dukket Human Design opp.
Hvordan begynte Emelie å jobbe med Human Design?
Bakrusen av å lansere den første podcasten.
Å grave i det som motiverer og hindrer.
Rollen Human Design kan ha i samfunnet.
Ytterkantene og skjelneevne.
Hva skal Emelie snakke om på konferansen?
Vi kan ikke sammenligne oss med noen andre og vi forstår verden på ulik måte.
Hvordan kan vi tilpasse Human Design i hverdagen når vi ikke har tilgang til andres kart?
Mønstre i møte med andre før og etter Human Design.
Å bli forstått av andre vs. å bli forstått av oss selv.
James’ relationship with music, touch cognition, and their healing roles.
About James Alexander:
James Alexander is the founder of the New School of Human Design, a teacher, guide, and coach with a focus on bringing Human Design back into the body. As a 5/1 Emotional Manifesting Generator with a triple split definition, James blends his background in somatic coaching, homeopathy, and Human Design to support people in real, embodied deconditioning. His approach is grounded, practical, and deeply rooted in lived experience.
If this conversation resonated with you, come meet James live at the Holistic Human Design Conference in Oslo this September. Experience his grounded approach and discover how to bring Human Design back to the body.
The Human Design chart reveals the architecture of the mental body, but the character that forms is shaped through childhood and environment.
Human Design and therapy can powerfully support each other: HD provides an essence-based lens, therapy offers the tools for real integration.
There’s a danger in using HD to reinforce trauma or defense mechanisms, especially when analysts are unaware of psychological dynamics.
Music, sound, body awareness, and the neutrino weather all offer ways to stay grounded and present in our experiment.
Dirk’s upcoming book will explore themes like child development, deconditioning, anthropology, and how to play with Human Design more consciously.
About Dirk:
Dirk Nellens is a 4/6 Reflector with a background in anthropology and body-based therapy. He spent many years immersed in spiritual and therapeutic communities including Osho’s meditation resort, and has studied Human Design for over two decades. Dirk’s approach is experiential, therapeutic, and deeply grounded in compassion and embodiment. He is currently preparing to publish his first book on Human Design, which explores its intersection with child development, trauma, and consciousness.
If you resonated with Dirk’s unique and powerful lens on Human Design, share this episode with someone on their journey of deconditioning. And if you’re ready to explore Human Design as an embodied, healing experience, come meet Dirk and all the other incredible speakers at the Holistic Human Design Conference in Oslo this September. Let’s make this wisdom real, together.
A candid reflection on how Human Design conferences, like the one in Norway, can be spacious, nurturing, and community-oriented.
About Emelie:
Emelie is a Human Design teacher, content creator, and podcast host based in Norway. Known for her calm, clear, and holistic teaching style, she focuses on helping people reconnect with their unique essence through Human Design and Gene Keys. Emelie’s work emphasizes self-awareness, discernment, and gentle but honest exploration of inner authority. With her individual circuitry, she brings depth, nuance, and a refreshing heresy to the world of Human Design.
Come meet Emelie live at the Holistic Human Design Conference in Oslo this September! Experience her gentle wisdom, nuanced perspective, and practical insights on inner authority. Join us for a beautifully curated, heart-centered gathering of Human Design enthusiasts from around the world.
Martin Grassinger is a veteran Human Design analyst and teacher with over 30 years of experience. Known for his somatic and health-oriented perspective, he integrates Human Design, physiology, and practical life wisdom to guide others in aligning with their true nature. A musician at heart, Martin brings depth, nuance, and heartfelt service to everything he does.
Join us at the Holistic Human Design Conference in Oslo this September to experience Martin Grassinger live. Expect grounded wisdom, practical insights, and a perspective that might be different than you have heard before. This is an opportunity to meet a true master of service and embodiment. Secure your ticket and be part of this meaningful gathering.
Therese is a 5/1 Self-Projected Projector born on the Cross of Healing. With over two decades of experience in Human Design, she brings a deeply embodied and experiential approach to her teachings. Known for her warmth, clarity, and sensitivity, Therese guides Projectors (and other types) back to their own authority and unique expression.
Are you a Projector, or do you love one? This episode is a must-listen for anyone wanting to understand the true essence of Projectors beyond the popular surface-level interpretations. Share this conversation with someone who needs to hear it, and come learn from Therese in person at the Holistic Human Design Conference in Oslo this September!
Skepticism of “Watered Down” Human Design: A grounded take on the current popularization of Human Design and why returning to basics is more impactful than chasing complex theories.
About Guido:
Guido is a Human Design analyst with three decades of experience, trained directly in the early days of the system. With a passion for emotional depth, individual empowerment, and grounded teaching, he offers readings that prioritize honesty, clarity, and real-life embodiment. Guido’s approach is practical, confrontational when needed, and deeply human.
If this conversation resonated with you, subscribe and share this episode with fellow Human Design enthusiasts.
To experience Guido’s in-person magic, join us at the Holistic Human Design Conference 2025 in Oslo, for workshops, conversations, and in-aura experiences.
The Importance of Language: We discuss how shifting from "I have to" to "I get to" changes the frequency of our daily lives, and how conscious language can be a powerful healing practice.
A Raw Perspective on Life & Death: With her 28-38 channel of struggle, Birgitte candidly speaks about her relationship with life, death, and finding purpose through human design and music.
About Birgitte:
Birgitte is a therapist and sound facilitator with a unique ability to weave music, energy, and Human Design into deeply transformative experiences. With her lifelong connection to music, she helps people reconnect with their bodies and emotions through sound. Birgitte is also the main host of this podcast season and a beloved facilitator at the Holistic Human Design Conference.
If you enjoyed this conversation, make sure to subscribe to the podcast and share this episode with your Human Design community.
Ready to experience Birgitte’s magic in person? Join us at the Holistic Human Design Conference 2025 for immersive in-aura sound experiences and powerful workshops, key notes and conversations.
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