In this deeply pastoral and honest conversation, Donna Crouch joins host Shekeinah Hill to unpack one of the most universal — yet often avoided — human experiences: pain.
Drawing from John 11 and the story of Lazarus, Donna shares from both Scripture and personal experience to explore how suffering, grief, and despair are not signs of weak faith — but often spaces where faith is formed.
At the beginning of a new year, when hope and expectation can sit alongside unexpected hardship, this episode reminds us that God meets us not only in breakthrough — but also in lament.
⚠️ Disclaimer & Support
This episode contains discussions around grief, loss, suffering, and emotional pain which may be sensitive for some listeners.
If this conversation raises difficult emotions or you need support, you are not alone. The following Australian support services are available:
• Lifeline Australia — 📞 13 11 14
https://www.lifeline.org.au
• Beyond Blue — 📞 1300 22 4636
https://www.beyondblue.org.au
• 1800RESPECT — 📞 1800 737 732
https://www.1800respect.org.au
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✨ Key Themes
1. Jesus Weeps With Us ❤️
God does not stand distant from our pain. The compassion of Jesus Christ shows that grief and faith can exist together — and that lament is a biblical response to suffering.
2. Movement Is Medicine 🚶Healing is often not immediate or passive. Emotional, spiritual, and relational movement can be part of the process God uses to restore us.