What do years inside the outdoor industry actually teach you about gear, preparation, and creating in nature?

In this episode of the HikeStrong Podcast, Marcus Shapiro sits down with outdoor photographer and filmmaker Dan Holz, co-founder of Fieldborn Creative, to talk about what he learned from nearly a decade working on the retail floor at REI, more than seven years leading photo and video at Osprey, and decades working in the field with hikers, athletes, and outdoor brands.

Dan shares behind-the-scenes insight into how outdoor gear is really designed and tested, why pack fit matters more than weight, and how working with real athletes in the field differs from staging outdoor marketing shoots. Drawing on his experience as a photographer and filmmaker, he explains how preparation — both physical and logistical — allows people to be present on the trail and on set, rather than just getting through the day.

Marcus and Dan also talk about how COVID reshaped hiking culture and the outdoor industry, what brands learned during that surge, and why authentic outdoor storytelling depends on lived experience, not polish or performance.

Whether you’re a hiker planning a big trip, someone curious about how outdoor brands operate behind the scenes, or a creator interested in authentic outdoor storytelling, this episode offers an honest, grounded perspective from someone who’s lived it.

Featured Guest
Dan Holz
Co-Founder, Fieldborn Creative
Dan is a lifelong outdoor professional whose career spans retail leadership at REI, creative direction at Osprey, and decades of fieldwork capturing authentic outdoor stories around the world. His work is rooted in lived experience and reflects how adventure actually unfolds.
🔗 Learn more: https://fieldborncreative.com

Dan and Marcus will both be at https://hikeexpocolorado.com/ in May 2026.

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Thinking about a Swiss Alps hut-to-hut hike but don’t know where to start? How do you actually plan it—and what do most first-timers get wrong?

In the final episode of this series, Marcus and Alex, founder of The WanderWeGo Co., dive into the practical realities of hiking in Switzerland. Alex shares what makes the Swiss Alps different from hiking in the U.S., including cultural norms, trail design, and the Swiss trail rating system—an area that often surprises American hikers.

They break down what a mountain hut really is, what it’s like to stay in one, and why hut-to-hut hiking is far more welcoming than many people expect, even for solo travelers or beginners. Alex also explains the logistics behind route planning, booking huts, packing smart, and preparing for the elevation gain that defines alpine hiking.

This episode is a roadmap for anyone inspired by Dave’s story and wondering how to take their own first step toward a Swiss Alps adventure—with clarity instead of overwhelm.

Topics covered:

• Hiking in the Swiss Alps vs. the U.S.
• Understanding Swiss trail ratings
• What the hut-to-hut experience is really like
• Planning routes, booking huts, and packing smart
• Common mistakes first-time Alps hikers make
• How beginners can confidently start planning

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I had a pretty ambitious goal going into this conversation with my client, Lisa. The idea was to cover all 20 weeks of her Tour du Mont Blanc training plan, and my hope was that each week you’d learn something you could apply to your training — or at least walk away with a little inspiration.

And the good news is — it turned out great. I’d never done this format before, and it ended up becoming a two-part series. Part 1 focuses on Lisa’s base training phase — the foundation that built her strength, balance, and confidence for the Tour du Mont Blanc. Part 2 dives into her peak phase and includes a special guest from Mountain Travel Sobek, the company she traveled with.

In this episode, Lisa shares lessons from the early weeks of her program — from mastering lunges and stair work to staying consistent while juggling family life and flat Michigan terrain. Whether you’re training for your first big hike or just need a dose of motivation, you’ll come away with practical tips, insights, and a few laughs from Lisa’s journey.

Mountain Travel Sobek - The Adventure Company | Est. 1969

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What does it take to climb Kilimanjaro when you don’t live near mountains? And what happens when you decide to do it all over again for the Inca Trail?

In this episode, I sit down with Alicia—a self-described “non-athlete” who trained on 23 stairs behind a building and a treadmill with a pack on her back to summit Kilimanjaro. She’s funny, self-deprecating, and brutally honest about what it really feels like to take on a trek of this size. Expect a few laugh-out-loud moments mixed with some hard-earned wisdom.

Now she’s training with me again, this time for the Inca Trail. By Week 5 she’s already logged 67 miles and 25,623 feet of elevation gain—compared to 62 miles and 17,749 feet at the same point in her Kilimanjaro plan. Why the difference? This time, the training is packed into 8 weeks instead of 12, and with experience comes a new awareness of how to push and how to know your limits.

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Most travelers walk away from a guided trip thinking, “That was amazing”—but they have no idea what it actually took to make it feel that way.

In Part 2 of my conversation with former REI Guide of the Year Chris Anderson, we go behind the curtain to uncover what guides really do:

• How REI tried to flip the script and treat guiding as a real career—and why that model didn’t survive
• The long hours, behind-the-scenes prep, and emotional labor that guests never see
• The broken tipping culture—and why it puts guides in a tough, awkward position
• What it really means to serve 10+ guests for 14+ hours a day with zero margin for error
• How underprepared guests affect group dynamics, safety, and morale
• The impossible math behind seasonal contracts, no PTO, and $100 day rates
• Why the best guides make you feel like the trip ran itself—and how much effort that actually takes

If you’ve ever been on a guided trip—or plan to—this episode will change how you see your guide forever.

🎧 Start listening now—and maybe rethink that tip envelope.

Check out the LinkedIn post from Chris that sparked this two-part series…

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When REI announced it was shutting down its Experiences Division, the internet exploded with outrage. For many, it felt like the company was abandoning one of the most meaningful things it offered - a way to actually get people outside, not just sell them the gear.

In this episode, I sit down with Chris Anderson, Former director of Risk Management & Guide Training at REI - a key leader behind the Experiences Division - to unpack what really happened behind the scenes.

We cover:

• Why REI acquired Arizona Outback Adventures (AOA) in 2019
• The original vision for Experiences and how it aligned with REI’s mission
• Internal data that showed Experiences boosted member spending and loyalty
• What changed after the pandemic—and why even a successful program can get cut
• Why REI’s commitment to paying guides fairly may have made long-term profitability an uphill battle

Chris brings a rare perspective—both operational and deeply personal—to a story that’s about much more than one company. It’s about the gap between mission and margin in the outdoor industry.

🎧 If you’ve ever taken a guided trip and had no idea what went on behind the scenes - Part 2 will change the way you see the entire experience. 

That’s where we go behind the curtain: exploring the emotional labor of guides, the broken tipping culture, and what needs to change to make this industry sustainable - for

Check out the LinkedIn post from Chris that sparked this two-part series…

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In this exhilarating episode, I talk with Alex Harz, creator and star of the captivating documentary "The Quest Everest." Alex shares incredible behind-the-scenes stories of his meticulous year-long training regimen, intense mental preparation, and unforgettable experiences climbing from Lukla to the summit of Mount Everest.

Listen in as Alex reveals:

• The surprising challenges he faced, including unexpected toe injuries and the infamous "Khumbu cough."
• The reality of the Everest climb—navigating treacherous ladders, repeated ascents through the Khumbu Icefall, and life at extreme altitudes.
• Insights on the Sherpa community and the cultural significance of the Everest region.
• Valuable advice on physical and mental preparation for Everest Base Camp and high-altitude trekking.

This episode isn't about encouraging listeners to summit Everest themselves. Instead, it's an opportunity to experience thrilling moments vicariously—through gripping anecdotes and vivid storytelling from someone who's been there. Listeners will gain rare insights into extraordinary situations they'll likely never face firsthand, from navigating treacherous ladders above crevasses to confronting the raw intensity of the death zone. Ultimately, it's about stepping into the climber's boots, absorbing the awe-inspiring drama, and using that inspiration to conquer the mountains in their own lives.

Whether you're dreaming of Everest Base Camp or inspired to conquer your personal Everest, Alex's story will motivate you to push past your self-imposed limits.

Key Highlights:

• How Alex prepared physically and mentally for 52 intense days on Everest.
• Stories of overcoming mental barriers at crucial moments.
• The profound cultural experiences in the Khumbu Valley.
• Tips for aspiring Everest Base Camp trekkers.

Mentioned in the Episode:

• Follow Alex: The Quest Series Instagram
• Virtual Reality Experience: Quest Everest VR
• Documentary: The Quest Everest

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Tia Banks never laced up hiking boots until her mid-30s—after a career as a pro basketball and flag-football athlete was cut short by a Grade 5 cartilage tear in her right knee. In this 41-minute episode, we explore:

• Reinventing yourself after injury: How she pivoted from court and field into totally unfamiliar trails, rediscovered her identity and went on to summit Kilimanjaro while battling illness, whipping winds and half the oxygen she was used to.
• Why “too late” is a myth: How a total novice built high-altitude endurance with pre-dawn weighted walks, stair-climb marathons and expert breath-work coaching.
• The power of your tribe: How one voice on a dark summit night turned “I want to quit” into “I will keep going,” and why Tia now pairs every hiker with a dedicated “partner in climb.”
• Unconventional training secrets: The mindset tools—optimism, “keep deciding” and resilience practices—that outlast raw talent on any trail.
• Mind Over Mountains: A deep dive into Tia’s interactive book and coaching platform, where you map your personal “life mountains” and transform setbacks into stepping-stones.
• From summit to spotlight: How Tia turned her late-start passion into a full-time calling—leading treks to Guadalupe Peak (Texas), Pico de Orizaba (Mexico) and beyond, and bringing mountain-born lessons into schools and boardrooms.

Whether you’re gearing up for your first day hike or facing an Everest-sized challenge at home, Tia’s journey proves it’s never too late to start—and you don’t climb alone.

Get started at tiabanks.com —grab the book, join a group trek, or book her for your next resilience workshop.

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I’ll never forget the email that landed in my inbox last November. “Failure isn’t an option,” Trudy wrote. “How do I get in tip-top shape for a 30-day Upper Dolpo trek?”

Fast-forward five months: Trudy—67 years young and 88 pounds lighter—had logged almost 275 miles and 94,000 feet of elevation gain training, half of it on real stairs and mountain trails, the rest on treadmills between deadlifts and trap-bar sessions. She showed up in Nepal ready for twelve high passes (six over 16,500 ft, topping out at 18,250 ft) and the cultural immersion she’d been craving since her Peace Corps days.

In this episode, I pull back the curtain on the program we built together: how we ramped weekly goals from 12 miles/3,000 ft to 18 miles/4,000 ft, why a 25-pound training pack and forty-lap stair grinds became her secret weapon, and how she toed the line between over-training and optimal conditioning.

Trudy joins me to share the human side, chatting with curious neighbors during two-and-a-half-hour staircase sessions, balancing powerlifting meets with summit prep, and using Diamox along with smart acclimatization days to keep altitude sickness at bay.

If you’re eyeing Everest Base Camp, Kilimanjaro, or your own backyard epic hike, Trudy’s journey proves that meticulous prep and a rock-solid mindset trump age, altitude, and doubt every time.

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I’ve been a fitness partner with Thomson Safaris since 2009. So when I finally got the chance to interview someone from their team, I didn’t waste time on the usual fluff—no “best time to go,” no “how high is the mountain,” and no softball questions to promote their brand. We went straight to the real issue that every Kilimanjaro trekker talks about: altitude.

Carolyn Hardy, Senior Safari & Kilimanjaro Consultant at Thomson Safaris, joined me for a candid, behind-the-scenes conversation about what it really takes to get to the top of Kilimanjaro—and why confidence, preparation, and the right team matter more than anything.

This episode will provide you with the information and confidence you need to choose the right route, prepare mentally and physically, and understand how world-class guides help you succeed, even when altitude strikes.

What We Cover in This Episode:
- The truth about altitude sickness—why almost everyone feels it and what to expect
- How Thomson Safaris’ guides monitor, support, and adapt to help trekkers summit successfully
- Carolyn’s personal altitude experience on Kilimanjaro—and how the guides kept her safe
- What makes Thomson’s guides different (hint: it’s not just the certifications)
- How guides build trust, manage group dynamics, and keep morale high
- Why fitness is your job—and the rest is the guide’s job
- A full breakdown of the four main routes to the summit, including:

• Grand Traverse: Best for first-timers, longer acclimatization, upgraded tents
• Western Approach: Most popular, good balance of challenge and cost
• Umbwe Route: Most physically demanding—only for experienced trekkers
• Machame Route: Budget-friendly, but crowded and fast-paced

- How to choose your route based on budget, fitness level, experience, scenery, solitude, and even knee issues
- Thoughts on Diamox—who takes it, how it’s prescribed, and when to start
- The difference between mental vs. physical preparedness, and why both matter
- What’s not in the pre-departure packet—but probably should be
- Extra gear tips: boots vs. trail runners, paracord for drying clothes, and more
- How Thomson treats its porters, and why their ethics matter when choosing an operator

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On today’s episode of the Hike Strong Podcast, I'm talking with Matthew, who shares his inspiring journey from feeling unhealthy and unmotivated to successfully completing a Kilimanjaro summit—his very first multi-day trek.

Matthew used my FREE 12-Week Hiking Training Plans from FitForTrips.com to get fit, lose weight, and build the essential leg strength needed for steep descents, rocky terrain, and intense stair sessions.

You'll hear firsthand how structured, realistic training helped Matthew overcome his doubts, turning his summit day into an enjoyable and empowering experience.

And remember, if you're inspired by Matthew’s story but aren’t confident about training independently, I'm always here to provide personalized coaching support.

Join us and discover what's possible when you have the right preparation and mindset. Access the FREE training plans below for any hiking adventure on your bucket list...

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In today’s episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Renee—one of my amazing clients living in Montana at the time of her successful summit, now living in Alaska. Even if Kilimanjaro isn’t on your radar, you’ll find plenty of motivation and training nuggets here for anyone who’s ever felt overwhelmed by a big, iconic hike. Renee was 40 when she tackled the 19,341-foot summit of Mount Kilimanjaro and later braved a demanding Alaskan backpacking trip.

I’m Marcus Shapiro, hiking strength and conditioning coach and founder of FitForTrips.com. Join me as I sit down with Renee to explore how she conquered these epic adventures—and how her lessons can help you reach your own hiking goals.

Renee spent four years eyeing Kilimanjaro’s high-altitude summit. When a 20-mile test hike in the Tetons with 4,200 feet of elevation gain showed her she needed a structured training plan, she reached out for my coaching support. You’ll hear how we set her weekly goals, stayed in sync with Sunday-night check-ins, and used strategies like stair climbing to maximize her success. From building confidence to protecting her knees, the payoff was huge—and the summit itself turned out to be far easier than she’d ever imagined.

Stay tuned to the end because, after Kilimanjaro, Renee tapped me again for an Alaskan backpacking adventure. Her experience—and testimonial—on that trip is just as powerful, proving that with the right training, no trail is too big to tackle.

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After months of training, what is it actually like to hike hut-to-hut in the Swiss Alps for the first time? This is the reality of a first Swiss hut-to-hut experience.

In Part 2, Dave is joined by Alex, founder of The WanderWeGo Co. and the consultant who designed his Swiss Alps route. Together, they move from preparation to lived experience—talking honestly about what surprised Dave on the trail, what challenged him most, and where his training showed up when it mattered.

They discuss why Alex intentionally steered Dave toward a more local, off-the-beaten-path region instead of the famous tourist routes, and how that decision shaped the entire experience. Dave reflects on the moments that stayed with him most, from physically demanding sections to unexpectedly emotional highs, and explains how knowing he was prepared allowed him to simply “show up” and enjoy the experience.

This episode connects the dots between smart planning, structured training, and what it actually feels like to hike day after day in the Alps as a first-timer.

Topics covered:

• First-time Swiss Alps hut-to-hut hiking
• What surprised a newbie hiker on the trail
• Off-the-beaten-path routes vs. tourist regions
• How training translates to real alpine terrain
• Advice for nervous or first-time Alps hikers

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I sat down once again with Will Burkhart, founder of Badass Adventures, to dive into a new topic: non-technical high-altitude mountaineering. Will was my very first guest on this podcast, and his episode on Rim to Rim hiking is a must-listen for anyone tackling the Grand Canyon in a single day. But today, we’re going even higher!

We define non-technical high-altitude mountaineering as climbing between 14,000 and 19,400 feet without the use of ropes or belaying. Will has created a tiered approach to getting into this type of adventure, starting with Colorado’s Fourteeners (14,000+ feet), then progressing to Everest Base Camp (17,598 feet) and finally Kilimanjaro (19,431 feet). He walks us through the differences and similarities between these experiences, covering topics like:

Trail conditions – From well-groomed paths to rocky ascents

Daily mileage & number of hiking days – How long you’ll be on the trail

Landscape & foliage changes – From lush rainforests to barren alpine environments

Summit day intensity – What makes Kili’s summit push challenging

Cultural immersion – The contrast between the Everest Base Camp trail and Kilimanjaro

Sleeping & eating logistics – Tea houses vs. tents, and what’s on the menu

Acclimatization strategies – How to prepare your body for high altitude

Gear & fitness requirements – The essentials for success and why training matters

If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to step into the world of high-altitude trekking, this episode is the perfect introduction. Whether your goal is to climb your first 14er, stand at Everest Base Camp, or summit Kilimanjaro, Will lays out the path for you.

Get in shape, pick your adventure, and go!

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In today’s episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with one of my amazing clients from Maryland, John. He was 62 years old at the time he hiked the Tour du Mont Blanc and a one-day Rim to Rim hike within one month of each other.

Our conversation toggles back and forth between TMB and R2R. You’ll learn about John’s hiking training strategies, tips for each of the iconic hikes, fueling strategies, and more. John also discusses his issues dealing with knee pain and how he managed to keep going strong despite that challenge.

And yes, after Covid stifled John’s trip to Kilimanjaro in 2020, he’s now booked it again. Moreover, I am working with his daughter well ahead of their departure to build her hiking base and boost her confidence.

I am grateful to receive his endorsement. Enjoy my conversation with John.

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In this episode of the Hike Strong podcast, host Marcus Shapiro sits down with a true icon in the ultralight backpacking world, Glen Van Peski. Known by his trail name "Home Made" for his self-crafted gear, Glen is also dubbed "Legend" by friends like John Mackey, co-founder of Whole Foods Market, due to his profound influence on the hiking community. But Marcus has a different name for him—"Sage"—a nod to Glen’s wisdom that extends far beyond the trails.

An engineer, father of three, founder of Gossamer Gear, and author of the insightful book take Less. do more, Glen blends ultralight packing expertise with 15 life lessons that anyone can apply. The episode opens with key takeaways from his book, touching on the power of meaningful relationships—something Glen has mastered, whether it’s his connections with influential figures like John Mackey, Dan Buettner, or actor Matthew McConaughey.

As the conversation unfolds, Glen shares his philosophy on ultralight backpacking, valuing simplicity in both gear and experience. He offers practical advice for reducing pack weight, catering to both novice and experienced hikers, and reflects on the evolution of the ultralight movement.

With Glen’s thoughtful insights on balancing efficiency with enjoyment, this episode is sure to inspire anyone curious about adopting the ultralight mindset.

Whether you're new to backpacking or a seasoned ultralighter, you’ll walk away with valuable lessons on gear, relationships, and the sheer joy of being on the trail.

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My name is Marcus Shapiro, a hiking strength and conditioning coach and the founder of FitForTrips.com. Today, I had the pleasure of speaking with one of my backpacking clients, Dermot. At age 54, he successfully completed an incredible 8-day backpacking adventure in the Maroon Bells. In our conversation, we dove into the key challenges he faced during our 16 weeks of hiking training, and Dermot shared some profound insights that seemed beyond his years.

What makes this episode so relatable is Dermot’s journey—he trained in and around his home in Chicago for an intense Colorado hike, with no hiking experience and limited access to trails. His story proves that with the right training, you can prepare for any adventure, no matter where you live. I’m honored to have been a part of his journey, and I’m grateful for his endorsement. Enjoy this authentic and inspiring conversation with Dermot!

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My loyal audience is accustomed to tuning in to my interviews with hiking and backpacking guides.  But today, I'm taking a detour to speak with an interesting guy named Nathan (Nate) Pipenberg. I was reading an article titled "The Best Backpacking Packs for Any Adventure" on the Outside app.  At the bottom of the article, it reads, "Meet our testers." Nate Pipenberg was listed as a tester, so I decided to approach meeting him literally and interview him for you today. 

Nate writes a biweekly column for Backpacker Magazine and is the category manager for sleeping bags, sleeping pads, and trekking poles at Outside Magazine. Below is a sampling of some discussion topics:

- What’s the day in the life of a gear tester?

- Make your pitch about why new backpackers should go ultralight.

- Nate discusses an anecdote about Glen Van Peski, a pioneer in ultralight backpacking and founder of Gossamer Gear, a functional ultralight backpacking and hiking gear company.

- What inspired you to embrace ultralight backpacking?

- Define what base weight means.

- Comment on an anecdote from John Mackey, co-founder of Whole Foods, in the foreword to Glen's book "take less. do more.".

- What is the price someone would need to spend to achieve an ultralight base weight compared to a conventional backpack packing approach?

- What are some beginning steps someone can take to lighten their load?

- What are the most essential pieces of gear for someone transitioning to ultralight backpacking?

- Explain the Big 4 in the realm of backpacking: 1 - Backpack, 2 - Tent (or shelter), 3 - Sleeping Bag or Quilt, 4 - Sleeping Pad

- What are the initial ultralight gear items to invest in?

- What are some ultralight gear company brand names you recommend?

- What does ‘packing your fears’ mean?

- What common gear mistakes do beginners make when trying to go ultralight?

- In general, what are some unnecessary items people bring backpacking?

- Is there one item you always bring that you’d coach someone not to carry but you do anyway despite the extra weight?

- Discuss getting in shape for backpacking, especially ascending and elevation gain.

- Glen Van Peski mentioned that according to John Mackey, the third day of a backpacking trip is the most challenging, but it gets easier after that. How long does it take to get in shape just by hiking on the Appalachian Trail, for example?

- Hikers rarely have a point of reference to appreciate what goes into building hiking trails.  Explain more so they can understand the process.

- What is the difference between East Coast trails and West Coast trails?

- What is your Musical Trekking recommendation?

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My name is Marcus Shapiro. I am a hiking strength and conditioning coach and founder of FitForTrips.com. Today, I had the privilege of speaking with one of my Kilimanjaro trekking clients. His name is David, and he was 65 at the time of his successful Kilimanjaro summit. Our conversation revealed the elements that led to his climbing achievement. This was an honor and a pleasure for me. I am grateful to receive David’s endorsement. Enjoy the conversation...

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Oh, so you don’t know who Sunny Stroeer is? Do you know what an FKT is? Have you heard a clear explanation of how to hike successfully at high altitudes? Do you think trekking poles are for wimps? Sunny provides answers to these questions and more. So what are you waiting for? Click play now!

In this really fun interview, Marcus Shapiro skillfully draws valuable insights from Sunny Stroeer’s expertise in extreme hiking as she simplifies the information into actionable steps. She is the co-owner of Dreamland Safari Tours, founder of AWExpeditions, professional photographer, Harvard graduate, professional endurance athlete, and set speed records across the globe.   Don’t worry, you won’t feel inferior.  She is dedicated to motivating individuals to choose challenging hikes and backpacking trips outside of their comfort zones. Below is a sampling of discussion topics:

-Tell us about your Aconcagua FKT record attempt.

-AWExpeditions will plot out a trajectory for women to set lofty adventure goals.  Tell me about that. 

-Recall events that led to you and your husband Paul deciding to purchase Dreamland Safari Tours.

-What region of the US do Dreamland Safari Tour itineraries cover, and make a pitch why hikers would love to explore the area?

-What attributes do you hope to find in your clients from a physical and mental perspective?

-Share your training philosophy as it relates to preparing for the challenging Grand Canyon Deer Creek / Thunder River Loop itinerary.

-Let’s talk about these three itineraries and what makes them so special: Paria Canyon Backpack, The Wave Tour, and Grand Canyon Deer Creek / Thunder River Loop

-Let’s talk about Kilimanjaro or Everest Base Camp because they are non-technical higher-altitude climbs, very accessible, and have a high success rate for clients who commit to do the necessary preparation. One of the concerns for many clients is breathing at altitude. The conventional wisdom is that you can’t train for altitude.   
- Can you flush this out for the listeners?

-Provide solutions for these three common concerns.
1 - The endurance to climb uphill.
2 - Knee pain going downhill.
3 - Keeping up with the group.

-Address how you fuel in these situations.
1 - Pushing yourself for time where you want to stop as infrequently as possible.
2 - Hiking at high altitudes.

-Do you have any tips on using trekking poles to get the most out of them?

-How did you handle injuries in the past when you had an exciting adventure planned that you might have to cancel?

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Dreamland Safari Tours / https://dreamlandtours.net
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As you read this, take a moment to ask yourself: Would I benefit from testing my mental and physical capabilities? If you answer yes, I have an alternative to endurance obstacle courses like Tough Mudder or Spartan Race. Consider challenging yourself by going on a backpacking adventure through some of the most iconic areas in the contiguous United States, where you'll be guided by experienced professionals (a.k.a. Team Leaders) who prioritize your safety and help you achieve your full physical and mental potential.

Marcus Shapiro talks today with Christopher Casado, the founder of TSX Challenge, and one of his team leaders, Alyssa Whoaa.  They will tease your imagination and desires with details of amazing itineraries in the Grand Canyon, remote regions of the Sierra like Mt. Whitney and the John Muir Wilderness, and remote sections of the Northern California coastline. They offer insights into the benefits of pushing your limits while backpacking in the remote wilderness. And I promise they will earn your trust.

So, listen with an open mind, book a TSX Challenge hike, and get in shape for perhaps the most consequential adventure of your life.  Below is a sampling of discussion topics:

-Why did you start this bold endeavor you called TSX Challenge?

-Why do you call your guides 'Team leaders'?

-Alyssa, you can work for any backpacking company; why TSX Challenge? 

-Explain these phrases you have on your site and why they are important: 
- regular people doing incredible things
- do things as teams
- team member and team leader
- at some point, you have to dig deep and help someone or get help
- challenges bring people together
- bring what you learn on the trip with you to work or family

-Alyssa, what do you get from leading these unique backpacking trips?

-Explain the tradition of ‘thorns and roses’ around the campfire.

-Let's play this game...  I'll read off an itinerary, and you tell me the first thing that comes to mind:
- Trans-Sierra Mt. Whitney
- Hell For Sure
- Lost Coast
- Tehipite Valley
- Mount Goddard
- Grand Canyon Challenge
- Thunder River
- Escalante Route
- Jumpup Canyon
- Rim-to-Rim XC
- The Confluence

-What is unique about the Mt. Whitney trails you choose for your clients to hike?

-What is your pitch to people to book your Mount Whitney trip?

-Alyssa, what do you love about Mount Whitney?

-What makes your Rim to Rim itinerary different than the iconic routes on North Kaibab, South Kaibab, and Bright Angel?

-Let's talk about getting in shape for your backpacking trips.

-What are your thoughts about mental toughness hiking in the wilderness?

-How do you motivate your clients when they are having a rough day?

-Provide 3 tips for packing a backpack.
 
-Share advice on hiking shoes.

-Share thoughts on ultra-light backpacking.

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To all you hikers out there who want to give mountaineering a go, this episode is for you.  Marcus flushes out some fantastic knowledge from Karsten Delap, founder of Pisgah Climbing School.  He is one of 200 people in the United States with the IFMGA licensed mountain guide certification.  And he is the only one who lives in the Southeast.  IFMGA stands for International Federation of Mountain Guides Association.

Karsten is a highly respected mountain guide and will help you understand how to transition from hiking to mountaineering.  And Marcus’ goal today is to give you the confidence to go for it.  Below is a sampling of discussion topics:

- Define mountaineering.

- What is the history of hiking as a recreational activity, and what is its relationship to mountaineering?

- When does hiking become mountaineering?

- What are the different physical requirements between hiking and mountaineering?

- Define mountaineering, mountain climbing, alpine climbing, and anything related.

- Are snow and glaciers required to be considered mountaineering?

- If you climb 14ers in Colorado in June when there is little snow, is it mountaineering?

- Let’s discuss getting in shape for mountaineering.

- How do you get in shape for mountaineering if you live in flat or urban areas and can’t hike frequently or at all due to traditional work schedules?

- Karsten, how do you generally approach a physical training routine 12 weeks out or more from a challenging climb?

- How does physical conditioning for climbing differ from hiking?

- What mental skills are essential for climbing, and how can they be developed?

- What signs, symptoms, and failings do deconditioned climbers experience during a mountaineering experience?  And generally, what do you think they could have done more of?

- In a previous discussion, you cautioned against having a myopic view of training for Mt Rainier—for example, after hearing a podcast like this and then going for it. What's your concern?

- List next-level mountaineering experiences that can be done in a day or two domestically in the United States.

- How do you suggest gradually progressing from easier climbs to more challenging routes?

- What do you learn in a mountaineering class?

- What technical skills can a client work on their own vs with you?

- Discuss climbing gear.

Karsten Delap / Pisgah Climbing School
https://www.pisgahclimbingschool.com/ & https://www.karstendelap.com/

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Let's delve into the world of Half Dome hiking, a thrilling Yosemite National Park adventure that requires both safety precautions and a strong dose of motivation. Marcus Shapiro turns to Scott Gehrman, founder of Lasting Adventures, for expertise on the subject. He has summited Half Dome 150+ times with clients brave enough to ascend and descend this majestic peak.

After speaking with Scott, Marcus concluded that his clients' summit success is a testament to the confidence he exudes to his hiking groups. This guy knows everything about Half Dome, and his clients know it and trust him. Below is a sampling of discussion topics:

- What safety and motivational advice do you have for ascending and descending Half Dome?

- How can you overcome the intimidation of ascending and descending Half Dome?

- Share cable route instructions you impart to your hiking groups.

- How do you explain passing or letting hikers pass on the cable route?

- What technique do you recommend for ascending and descending?

- Discuss fitness tips you provide to your backpacking and hiking clients.

- Discuss safety gear that some Half Dome hikers use.

- What kind of shoes and gloves should you wear on the cable route?

- Can you leave your gear at the base of Half Dome?

- How much time does it take to complete a round trip?

- Discuss attempting a summit when the cables are down.

- How do snow and rain affect the Half Dome experience?

- Discuss how to avoid falling.

- Discuss the backpacking itineraries you offer that end with a Half Dome summit.

- Discuss what months the cable route is intact.

- Share details about the Mist Trail.

- Talk about accessing permits to summit Half Dome.

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What does it really take to train for a Swiss Alps hut-to-hut hike at 63—especially if you’re new to multi-day hiking? For Dave, it became a path back to strength, confidence, and independence.

In Part 1 of this three-part series, I sit down with Dave, a first-time hut-to-hut hiker, to talk about the training journey that prepared him for the Alps—and how that process became much more than physical preparation. Week after week, our training check-ins evolved into deeper conversations about aging, independence, freedom, and what it means to stay capable later in life.

Dave shares how walking and hiking—basic human movements—often need to be relearned in a modern, sedentary world, and how losing the ability to move long distances can quietly erode freedom and confidence. Training for the Swiss Alps helped him reclaim both.

This episode is for anyone wondering if they’re “too old,” “too late,” or “not experienced enough” to take on a big hiking goal—and for anyone who believes preparation can unlock more than just a successful trip.

Topics covered:

• Training for a Swiss Alps hike at 63
• Preparing for hut-to-hut hiking as a beginner
• Hiking philosophy, mindset, and independence
• Why preparation changes how you experience life, not just the trail

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Marcus Shapiro is joined by Dave Fatula, White Mountains hiking expert and founder of Guineafowl Adventure Company.  Dave successfully makes a strong pitch for why hiking in the White Mountains (in New Hampshire) is one of the most fun, beautiful, and rugged destinations in the Lower 48. Your challenge is to listen and then ask yourself how long you can resist before having to experience hikes in the Whites for yourself.  He calls the White Mountains, Boston’s Backyard.  Marcus and Dave talk fitness, trails you should hike, spectacular views above the treeline and much more… Below is a sampling of discussion topics:

- Why is it important to feel, see, challenge, and immerse yourself in nature and what’s unique about the ruggedness of the White Mountains?

- Make your pitch to the Northeasterner to hike in the White Mountains.

- Make your pitch to the hikers out West who will belittle the 4000-footers vs 14,000-foot peaks.

- Talk about the challenging trails that sometimes go straight up and down without switchbacks and why that is. 

- Hiking in the White Mountains vs Adirondacks vs Mahoosucs.

- Discuss the overwhelming number of stunning views above the tree line in the unique alpine tundra.

- Talk about the iconic Mount Washington hike and important safety measures you should take.

- Discuss peak bagging the 48 peaks within New Hampshire and one in Maine, over 4,000 feet, known as the four-thousand footers.

Let’s discuss the technical nature of the White Mountain National Forest and how a proper fitness level makes hiking much more fun, rewarding, and safe.

- Favorite musical band for Musical Trekking.

- Discuss some beginner, intermediate, and challenging hikes in the White Mountains.

- Discuss that the White Mountain National Forest is home to some of the most formidable terrain on the entire Appalachian Trail.

- What is the most common positive thing people say about the entire experience when hiking with the Guineafowl Adventure Company for the first time?

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Marcus Shapiro is joined by Mags and Olly - Tour du Mont Blanc experts!  They both share a passion for the Tour du Mont Blanc hike a.k.a. TMB.  After listening to the discussion, you will feel confident about committing to this iconic hike.  Below is a sampling of some discussion topics:

- Make your pitch for why someone should pick the TMB if they could only make one trip this year.

- What is the most common fitness question you get?

- Do you find a difference in fitness levels between self-guided and guided travelers?

- When someone has to abandon the TMB due to low fitness, what do you think they left out of their program?

- What is the biggest surprise most people experience on TMB?

- What do your guides find most people struggle with on TMB?

- What surprises most people when they begin researching TMB?

- Do many people underestimate the elevation gain per day?

- Describe the most challenging 2 stages and why.

- What percentage of hikers take on one variant or more?

- What would be a good target pack weight to aim for in different scenarios?

- Most hikers hike anti-clockwise so that the views of Mont Blanc are always in front of them, but there are advantages to hiking clockwise. Please discuss.

- It is common to Cover the entire Tour du Mont Blanc in 11 days. Detail other ways to experience the TMB.

Mags is omnipresent online, providing confidence to those who want to hike the TMB without a guide.  Olly is the operations director, managing the running of all the trips for Adventure Base and will get you all set to hike with a guide.  They are both based in Chamonix in the French Alps and live at the foot of Mont Blanc - the start/finish of the famous multi-day trekking route - Tour du Mont Blanc.

Mags Nixon
https://tourdumontblanchike.com/

Olly Alkema / Adventure Base
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Marcus Shapiro is joined by Will Burkhart,  owner of Badass Adventures.  Will has Guided and hiked the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim 55+ times and is one of the experts you should listen to before dropping into the canyon.  There are excellent hiking guides, and then there are badass guides like Will. 

His confidence and competence were forged by his years as a marine, a professional adventure race pioneer, and a hiking guide for decades, leading easy hikes to high-altitude summits.  Marcus and Will discuss R2R training, whether to cross North to South or vice versa, and much more.  Train | Hike | Repeat

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In Part 2 of this conversation, Blake Hansen returns to Mount Rainier with lessons learned from his first attempt. This episode focuses on what changed the second time — particularly around gear, systems, and on-mountain decision making.

We talk through how Blake refined his pack, clothing, hydration setup, food strategy, and break efficiency, and how those adjustments made the climb feel more controlled and sustainable. Blake also shares what he learned about layering, managing temperature, and staying ahead of fatigue as conditions changed throughout the climb.

Part 2 brings the story full circle, showing how applying lessons from the first attempt — especially around gear and execution — helped Blake move more confidently and ultimately reach the summit of Mount Rainier.

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In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, I sit down with Blake to walk through the beginning of his Mount Rainier journey — why the mountain became a goal, how his first training cycle unfolded, and what happened during his initial summit attempt.

We talk through the early training data, the challenges that showed up both in preparation and on the mountain, and how travel fatigue, limited sleep, hydration mistakes, and respiratory symptoms factored into the climb and ultimately led him to turn around just below 13,000 feet on summit day.

This episode focuses on the learning phase of training for Mount Rainier — what the first set of numbers revealed, where expectations didn’t match reality, and why a rebuild became necessary. Part 1 sets the foundation for the changes that follow, before Blake returns to Mount Rainier and successfully reaches the summit in Part 2.

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In this episode, Michele shares how one miserable backpacking experience in Yosemite — a trip that began with a rolled ankle and a 5,000-foot descent — nearly pushed her away from backpacking altogether. But instead of giving up, she decided to try again. With structured training and a clearer understanding of how to prepare for a heavy pack, she returned to the trail for a four-day trek in Death Valley and had a completely different experience.

Michele talks about rebuilding confidence in midlife and discovering that the right training made the trail feel not just doable, but enjoyable. She explains how stair sessions, incline treadmill work, balance training, and learning proper pack fit transformed her comfort and stability. She also shares a memorable moment when her guide told her she was the only person in the group using trekking poles correctly — a small but powerful sign of her growth.

We explore why running didn’t help her as much as hiking-specific training, how she adapted her weekly routine to fit the plan, and why consistency mattered more than long hours outside. By the end of her trip, she felt strong, capable, and proud to say, “I don’t hate backpacking anymore,” a line that reflects just how far she’d come.

If you’ve ever had a rough outing or wondered whether it’s too late to build real trail confidence, Michele’s story will show you what’s possible with the right approach.

There’s some B-roll at the very end, so stick around for a little extra conversation after the official podcast wraps.

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In Part 2, Hilary and Alexis take us through the final weeks of training, their milestone breakthroughs, and the moments on Mount Kilimanjaro that revealed not just their physical readiness — but their resilience, mindset, and bond as a mother-daughter team.

We talk about how they balanced real life with peak-phase training, including graduation, a full-time job, and a family bike trip that forced them to consolidate workouts and rely on discipline rather than perfect circumstances. Hilary describes how the lunge progression and balance work finally resolved decades of knee pain from an old ACL reconstruction, giving her confidence heading into the steepest sections. Alexis explains how she made the wise decision to stop running late in training to avoid injury — and why stair training became her biggest asset.

Inside the peak phase, they share:

• Completing their 3,000-ft and 4,000-ft milestone challenges — and the confidence those tests provided
• The exhaustion, pride, and “I really did that” moments after long combined treadmill–stairs–stair-climber workouts
• How they adapted when life made consistent data tracking impossible
• The way Marcus coached them through limited time, busy schedules, and moments of self-doubt

Once on the mountain, the conversation shifts to what it felt like to truly disconnect. Alexis talks about the quiet magic of being unreachable — no phone, no news, no notifications — and how that presence reshaped the experience. Hilary shares the “calm exhilaration” of being in the moment each day, guided by a team that focused them on one day at a time.

They also discuss:

• Snacking strategies, Scratch chews, electrolytes, and staying fueled at altitude
• How the Thomson Treks guides monitored hydration, sleep, recovery, and morale — and why “positive mental attitude” became their anchors
• The only moment Alexis felt altitude sickness: 3:30am on summit morning
• The honesty, support, and partnership that helped her recover and keep moving

The episode ends with a lively lightning round: tent rituals, packing mistakes, favorite snacks, who woke up first, who took longest to get ready, summit emotions, what the stars looked like at 15,000+ feet, and what they ultimately learned about themselves — and each other.

And don’t miss the very end — stay after the outro music for a fun bit of behind-the-scenes B-roll from our conversation.

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When Hilary and her daughter Alexis signed up to climb Mount Kilimanjaro, they each trained on their own schedule but stayed connected through shared goals, encouragement, and a deep commitment to see the journey through together.

In this first half of their story, Hilary shares how her customized training plan—and especially the lunge progression—transformed the knee she’d struggled with since ACL surgery, leaving it stronger and more stable than it had felt in years. Alexis talks about something different but equally powerful: the gift of disconnection. High on the mountain, without her phone or constant notifications, she found a deeper presence and appreciation for the moment.

You’ll hear:

• What inspired them to take on Kilimanjaro together
• How they balanced life, graduation, and training from different cities
• The physical and mental breakthroughs that came from structured hiking prep
• Why stepping away from screens can reconnect us to ourselves and each other

This episode is part inspiration, part practical guide—and a reminder that when families train for something big together, the results go far beyond the mountain.

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In Part 2 of this conversation, Marcus and Lisa pick up where they left off—digging into the peak phase of her 20-week training plan leading up to the Tour du Mont Blanc. They talk about how Lisa managed higher mileage and tougher elevation goals, how she kept her body feeling good and avoided overtraining as the workouts got tougher, and the mindset that carried her through the final stretch of preparation.

Later in the episode, Marcus brings in Travis Wardell, Program Director for Europe at Mountain Travel Sobek—one of, if not the, world’s oldest adventure travel company. It’s Travis’s first time meeting Lisa, and he shares insights on what makes MT Sobek’s version of the TMB different from the classic route, how the company designs and curates world-class trekking experiences, and the activity level system they use to help travelers choose the right adventure for their goals and abilities.

The episode wraps with a relaxed, behind-the-scenes exchange after the formal interview—a fun, unscripted glimpse of the conversation once the mics were supposed to be off.

Mountain Travel Sobek - The Adventure Company | Est. 1969

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Most hikers research hiking gear and watch gear reviews before a trip.

You’ve probably watched hiking gear videos before your last hike—but have you ever thought about who’s creating them?

In this episode, we step inside the world of user-generated content (UGC) and talk with a real outdoor creator about how it actually works in the hiking and outdoor gear industry.

Marcus sits down with Ryan Heck, a UGC creator who works with outdoor brands like KÜHL and BioLite, to talk about:

• What user-generated content actually is
• How Ryan studies and tests hiking gear before showcasing it
• What makes hiking gear reviews feel authentic
• Layering strategy for hut-to-hut hikes in changing weather
• How hikers can approach content creation themselves

This episode isn’t about workouts. It’s about understanding the hiking gear content many outdoor enthusiasts already consume—and the role it plays in the broader hiking experience.

After listening, you may start seeing hiking gear videos on Instagram, YouTube, and Facebook differently.

Ryan Heck: Outdoor Brand Content & UGC Creator | Trekker Heck Instagram

Ryan and Marcus will both be at https://hikeexpocolorado.com/ in May 2026.

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How do you train for Mount Kilimanjaro at 60+ without living near mountains?
Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro isn’t just about summit night — it’s about the months of preparation beforehand.

In this episode, siblings Bob and Susan (both in their late 60s) share how they trained separately in completely different environments and successfully summited Kilimanjaro together.

Susan lives in the Washington, D.C. area and trained using local hikes in Virginia and Maryland, treadmill work, stairs, and strength training — one year after her second hip replacement. Bob lives in Iowa and trained in flat terrain, relying heavily on stairs and an artificial sledding hill to build elevation gain.

Both had real concerns: altitude sickness, balance, downhill scree, and handling back-to-back trekking days.

Over 12 weeks, they focused on elevation gain, lunges, balance work, and milestone challenges — logging more than 35,000–40,000 feet of vertical gain in training.

By the time they reached Tanzania, the physical side was no longer the question.
In this episode, we cover:

• How to train for Mt. Kilimanjaro without mountains
• Elevation gain vs. mileage
• Hiking after hip replacement
• Balance training for hikers over 60
• Trekking poles and downhill control
• Managing altitude sickness
• The value of experienced guides
• Why preparation reduces anxiety on big expeditions

This conversation is for anyone who believes big adventures are reserved for younger bodies or perfect terrain. Readiness can be built deliberately, locally, and imperfectly — and sometimes the most meaningful summits are the ones you share with someone willing to commit alongside you and stay accountable every step of the way.

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In this episode of the Hike Strong Podcast, Marcus Shapiro sits down with Joel — a 63-year-old retired physician who went from a heart attack, beta-blockers, and years of declining fitness… to completing the Camino de Santiago and rediscovering what he’s capable of.

Nine months before this conversation, Joel reached out with a simple question:
Can I actually do this?

After a STEMI in his 40s, years of weight gain, and the limitations of beta-blockers, Joel felt out of shape, uncertain, and honestly — afraid of elevation. But he also had a growing list of adventures he didn’t want to miss.

This episode follows that journey.

Joel shares what it felt like to start over… 
What it was like training in a completely flat environment…
And how his confidence slowly returned — one walk, one stair climb, one small win at a time.

We talk about:

• The mental side of rebuilding after a cardiac event
• What it feels like to exercise on beta-blockers
• Reclaiming identity after years away from fitness
• Training alongside his wife and staying accountable
• The moment preparation turns into belief

And ultimately, what the Camino de Santiago meant to him.

From quiet coastal mornings along the Camino Portuguese…
to the realization halfway through the journey that he was ready…

And it didn’t stop there.

Since completing the Camino Walk, Joel has gone on to hike the Great Ocean Walk in Australia, continuing to build momentum with each new experience.

Looking ahead, he and his wife are planning future adventures including the Cotswold Way, the Tour du Mont Blanc, and even Kilimanjaro — goals that once felt uncertain, and now feel possible.

This is not a story about elite performance.

It’s about reclaiming your life, one step at a time.

If you’ve ever wondered whether it’s too late — or whether your body can still do hard things — this conversation will resonate.

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Most hikers focus on the trail—almost no one understands what shapes the experience before they arrive.

What does it really take to create a great hiking experience—and who’s working behind the scenes to make it possible?

In this episode, Marcus Shapiro sits down with Shannon Stowell, CEO of the Adventure Travel Trade Association (ATTA), to explore the hidden systems that shape adventure travel around the world. From developing destinations like the Jordan Trail and Patagonia to training guides and supporting local communities, Shannon shares how ATTA quietly influences the experiences hikers have every time they step onto a trail.

The conversation opens with a wild story—being unexpectedly pulled from his own event to meet a governor in Mexico—and quickly expands into deeper insights on what makes adventure travel meaningful, responsible, and sustainable.

Marcus also brings a powerful thought experiment to the table: two hikers summiting Kilimanjaro—one prepared, one not. Both reach the top, but the experience couldn’t be more different. What does that mean for guides, group dynamics, and the future of adventure travel?

You’ll also hear:

•  How destinations like Chile and Jordan are developed into global hiking hubs 
•  Why 30–50% of travelers still show up underprepared—and how that impacts guides 
•  What “traveling better” really means (and how it can positively impact local communities) 
•  Why adventure travel is more resilient than mass tourism 
•  The growing trend of “dim sum travel”—doing more, not just one thing 

This episode connects the dots between prepared hikers, supported guides, and protected places—and why all three matter more than ever.

If you’ve ever wondered how your experience on the trail is shaped long before you arrive, this conversation will change how you see adventure travel.

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