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Another mind bending podcast. In this case as usual, Jennifer and I had no idea whom Luana Anders, our moderator on the flipside would bring to the conversation.

In this case it was my old boss Robert Towne, the screenwriter who passed away recently. He brought up the topic of "DreamBombing" a person's dream.  Jennifer said the term, then later I asked him if he coined it or she did - and he took credit for it.

The idea is that they can "slip into" a dream we're having and just say hello.  We may be disconcerted, we may not be aware of it - I have no conscious idea that I saw Robert recently, but it is accurate that an hour ago I got an email from his daughter, and it is accurate that I've had dreams in the past where I'm suddenly hearing Robert's comments or voice.

He was a unique voice in life and as a writer.  Previously we'd asked him who he may have rubbed elbows with since crossing over and he mentioned both Charles Dickens and William Shakespeare.

I asked Will an innocuous question - I know that Jennifer doesn't remember the questions we've asked people before, and when I ask a vague question like "Was the last time we spoke an accurate description of events?" I know that Jennifer is capable of saying "No."  Or "Not so much."

In this instance he replied "More than I imagined it would be." And in that instance I asked him a multitude of questions about his life, his family, the stories about his work, the rewriting done by actors onstage, the genesis of his ideas, as well as remarking how he'd written Romeo and Juliet during the pandemic.

He said "A lot of great work comes out of pandemics."

Unusual comment to make, and in his case; absolutely accurate.

Robert said he'd just come by to mention the dream bombing - and then Luana said she wanted to emphasize the idea of how people should think in terms of doing this kind of work - accessing people offstage.

She said 1. You have to believe it. 

That echoes what her friend Harry Dean Stanton had said, that to "allow for the possibility that life goes on is key" in terms of getting any information.

So it's not that one has to believe in religion, or believe in tooth fairies, or believe in pyramid hats, but to believe that it's possible that one's loved ones still exist - that's key to them being able to communicate.

Because if you don't believe you can communicate; you won't.

Second part is to 2 open yourself up to the possibility of communication. That means don't focus on sound, image, answers - focus on the question one is asking and allowing them to find a way to answer it. Could be a coincidence, could be music, could be a specific answer, could be that one turns on the radio hears the answer, opens a book reads the answer, or somehow is made aware of the answer in some method.

They communicate in the best way they know how, and that might be the best way they think we can comprehend what they're saying. 

So this podcast is more about process, and a visit from two great writers.

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I went to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce ceremony for my pal Carl Weathers. (We wrote a script together were friends for 20 years.)  At the ceremony I met some relatives and friends, and told them I might be able to reach out to Carl via our podcast (again.) If one searches his name on this podcast, they'll see the initial interview.

But in honor of his family and friends, here's an article that talks about what the ceremony was like:

HOLLYWOOD, LOS ANGELES -- Carl Weathers was honored with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame this week.

On Thursday, the actor, known for his role as boxer Apollo Creed in the "Rocky" films as well as his time as an NFL linebacker for the then-Oakland Raiders, was posthumously honored during a ceremony by his dear friends in Hollywood and sports, including Las Vegas Raiders owner Mark Davis, actress Bryce Dallas Howard and actor LeVar Burton.

Carl Weathers' sons Matthew Weathers and Jason Weathers, as well as his partner Christine Kludjian, also paid tribute to him in moving speeches.

"My father was an individual with dreams and aspirations," Matthew Weathers said in his speech. "He knew what he wanted at a very young age. He told me on numerous occasions that if he had some money in his pocket as a young man, he'd go to the movies."

A picture of Carl Weathers, the late actor renowned for his iconic roles in films such as "Rocky," is displayed on his star as he is honored posthumously on the Walk of Fame. A picture of Carl Weathers, the late actor renowned for his iconic roles in films such as "Rocky," is displayed on his star as he is honored posthumously on the Walk of Fame. "Not a lot of people have the opportunity to do what he did," he added of his father's illustrious career. "He was proud of what he created. So am I. It's hard to imagine that he's not here."

Jason Weathers echoed his brother's words about their father and said that he's "so proud" of him.

"I wish he could be here to experience this," he continued. "I know he was looking forward to this -- over 50 years in Hollywood, in his career, and now to be immortalized with a star is just truly wonderful."

Along with the "Rocky" films, Carl Weathers starred in "Happy Gilmore" alongside Adam Sandler, "Predator" with Arnold Schwarzenegger and more. More recently, he played Greef Karga in the Disney+ series "The Mandalorian" and directed several episodes of the show.

Howard, who worked as a director on "The Mandalorian" alongside Carl Weathers, called him a "titan of a man."

"Carl was not only one of the central stars of 'The Mandalorian,' he was also one of the show's regular directors," she said. "It astonished me how effortlessly he wore both hats. It was truly remarkable to spin both those plates, acting and directing."

"Carl did it with grace, ease and enthusiasm," she added. Burton, meanwhile, called Carl Weathers "the embodiment of a good man." "Carl was also an icon," he added. "A legend. Apollo Creed will go down in history as one of the most popular figures in entertainment history and that is due to the charisma and talent of Carl Weathers."

Here's the youtube clip with those speeches... https://www.youtube.com/live/QdVMklVyGK0?si=CH5OPTwMgwsK5-DI&t=1589

I share this information as an old friend of Carl's and some family members and I talked about me sharing this interview later on in the day.

It's an example of how easy it is to speak to our loved ones offstage.  Jennifer is very talented at what she does, and because I knew Carl well, as well as the other questions I ask during this podcast, I know that we're hearing new information from someone offstage.

Anyone can.

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Jennifer and I have been doing this form of accessing the flipside for 8 years.  Every week for the past 8 years we've been getting together to see who we can speak with or talk to on the flipside.

In terms of the process; Jennifer works with law enforcement agencies daily; she senses, sees, hears information and does her best to interpret what she is seeing, hearing. 

When someone shows up that I knew, or she knew, it's easier to interpret what they're talking about.  In my case I try to ask them the same relative questions; "Who greeted you when you crossed over?" "Who are you hanging out with?" "Who were you surprised to see?" "What was the journey like?" "What would you like to tell your loved ones?"

Sometimes the people who are on our podcast show up because of their connection to our moderator on the flipside, Luana Anders, my friend who passed away in my arms in 1996.  She began to visit me after that event, then members of my family; at some point I had to acknowledge that she still existed.  My journey into the FLIPSIDE (book and film) was to figure out how that was physically possible.

After about 7 years of filming people using hypnotherapy or guided meditation to access the same hallmarks, Jennifer showed up to demonstrate how talking to someone who was onstage is like having a cellphone to those who are offstage.

And here we are 8 years later.

Occasionally people show up that I knew well, or worked with, or someone like this week's guest who I knew for 40 years.  I heard from his family prior to the podcast about his passing, and they asked me to let them know if I heard anything from him on the flipside.

So in that vein we offer this interview with someone who stepped offstage, who is not gone, just not here.  He talks about things only I know about - in many instances referring to people Jennifer doesn't know, but I do.

To those who have lost a dear friend, a dear family member, someone close to their hearts, it can be difficult to listen to something like this - grief can be overwhelming. The desire to dismiss something like this is strong - and of course this kind of investigation isn't for everyone.

But after doing this for eight years, I can think of no other podcast we've done that is so spot on in terms of what we learn from someone I loved dearly who is no longer on the planet, but has gone back "home" to be with friends and family.

In the books BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE, (1-3) and TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE; there are the transcripts of the sessions with the late actor, great skeptic Harry Dean Stanton who was a dear friend of Fred Roos and Luana Anders.

In those sessions, I asked Harry "at what point did you realize there was an afterlife?" and he told us that at first he thought he was dreaming - had "entered a happy memory" of his trip with Fred Roos and Luana Anders to the Monterey Pop festival in 1967 (where they arrived to see Jimi Hendrix.)  I know this is accurate, because in Harry's account from the flipside, I confirmed everything he said with Fred Roos, who was in the car with Luana and Harry Dean - something I wasn't aware of, but he was.

And then, Fred described the same "soft landing" they had constructed for him. The memory of those fairgrounds, of being young and seeing one's pals offstage.

This is about as mind bending a session as we've ever done. 

As noted, Jennifer and I will be at the Contact in the Desert conference this coming week; I appear on Friday the 31st at 10:30, then Jennifer and I appear together on Saturday June 1st at 10:30 am in the Independence Room, and then I will be speaking solo about "filters on the brain" on Sunday at 2:30 at the event.

Hope some can make it - or tune in via their website at ContactIntheDesert.com

Again, I'm sorry to have a close friend of mine leave the planet after a fantastic 90 year run - and for some listening in the names of the people I ask him to talk about are easy to discern for those who might have known the great, Oscar winning producer Fred Roos.

For those who don't know the references, that's okay as well, because the important part is to realize they aren't gone; they just aren't here.

I ask for a message for his life long pal Francis: "Tell Francis that there's nothing to be afraid of; if I can make it to heaven anyone can." (Fred's dry sense of humor.)  I ask about his life long pal Jack:  Laughing, he says "He's not going to heaven." Then "He needs to make that film about his life with his daughter Lorraine." For his pal the writer Robert; "Tell him I'm still talking to him, that I loved our conversations recently - they talked about their friend (Nick Coster)   They talked about life after death." For his friend Sofia, he says, "I can’t wait to see everything that she’s doing. We’re celebrating her dad over here.” (Meaning they're celebrating her father's recent successes on the flipside.) To his friend Harrison; “He’s not going anywhere. He needs to stop being such a hypochondriac. He gets anxiety and he should relax."  Any comment about his friend   George? He says, "Lucky. Lucky son of a gun. " (Jennifer asks "Did he get married again?" Fred says, "It couldn’t have happened to a better guy, finding love again." To his friend Mike Figgis: "Thank you. Whatever went sideways he’d figure it out – so appreciative of all the work that he did."

Those are verbatim messages from a loved one offstage to his friends back onstage. Those who know Fred will know who he's referring to.

But it serves to remind everyone; Fred is asked about advice he'd give someone on the planet; he says to not take any day for granted. 

I'm sharing this because I know it will help some people, it's helped me to realize that our loved ones are not gone; they're just not here. 

These past two podcasts, with friends Roger Corman, Fred Roos and their mutual friend Eleanor represent a comprehensive chat with people that I personally knew who are offstage and confirm what these past fifteen years of filming people offstage demonstrate.

Anyone can do this. Anyone can access their loved ones offstage.  We can do so with mediumship, guided meditation or hypnotherapy.  It's healing and helpful to know about the process in some small detail - but that everyone leaves the stage and returns home.

Hope this helps. 

This one should be called "Garbo Speaks...

from the Flipside!"

This is about as mind bending as our podcast gets.  But wait, there's more!

A week ago Sunday, I was doing a session with my pal Iris Libby of "AskIrisLibby.com" fame - I've known Iris most of my life, know her as a successful businesswoman, a pal, who happens to be an amazing astrologer.  I've filmed her during her hypnotherapy session training with Scott De Tamble, and some excerpts of her sessions appear in my books.

We had an experiment to try - speaking to her council.  But when the session began, she said "Houdini is here."  I said "Why?" And he proceeded to chat with us. I asked if he was surprised to meet anyone on the flipside, and he said "Greta Garbo."

That session I recorded, and will be part of a future book.  But this session with Jennifer was a follow up on that conversation, as noted during the podcast.

Jennifer had no idea that I had "spoken to Houdini and Garbo" a week earlier, as I told no one.  Besides, everyone I know wouldn't believe me anyway - so there's no point in telling anyone as it is.

However, I left it up to our moderator on the flipside as to whom we should speak with - and I'll let the podcast speak for itself.

Inevitably I get details wrong - or incorrect. I'm asking the questions, and an interview is only as good as the person who directs the conversation. However, Harry and Greta both offer new insights, new information about their journey and the flipside from their current perspective.

I have no other way to put it than "Garbo speaks from the Flipside!" "Houdini makes an appearance from the Flipside!"  I will repeat what they both said during the session with Iris, and I do repeat it in the podcast:

Harry, when asked if he had any message for humanity it was "Everything is an illusion."  When asked the same questions Garbo said "Matter is not matter, and matter doesn't matter." 

Neither one could I make up.

So sit back and enjoy the 101st podcast of a very unusual collaboration. JenniferShaffer.com is where you can find Jennifer or book oneself one of her public events, or book privately. RichMartini.com is where you can find links to films and books in many languages. MartiniZone.com is where you can find the video of this interview, and HackingTheAfterlife.com is the podcast.

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It's our 100th episode!  Whee!

 Mind you, Jennifer and I started doing this together seven years ago.  So it's our ... you do the math ... episode after doing this weekly for seven years.

The other sessions are excerpted in the books BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE 1, 2 and 3 - or TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE.  https://www.audible.com/pd/Tuning-into-the-Afterlife-Audiobook/B09MG8Q5BH 

As we often do - since doing this for so long - I let the moderator of our class on the flipside direct our conversation.  My pal Luana Anders passed in 1996, and since then has been visiting me (and members of my family) since then.  Clearly hasn't gone anywhere. Brings us new information. 

She was a devout Buddhist, so in the general concept of the Boddhisattva vow - that we will return until everyone is "liberated" I'd say she's doing a heck of a job helping us with that.

But Luana is our "guide" on the flipside, who is in charge of the VIP list of who gets into our class to speak with us.  So when I asked "Who is on Luana's list?" I'm leaving it up to her to let us know what she wants to speak about.

In this case - it was about how to construct a dream, or the process of constructing a dream. In my case - I had this dream a few nights ago where I was "creating an object" on the flipside using intent and imagination alone.

Generally a couple of nights prior to our podcast I may have a dream that involves the flipside. I don't remember all of them, but sometimes I remember a key. In one instance it was the word "telegraph key" to point out that we are like telegraph keys here - and people on the flipside can "send signals" that we need to translate into concepts, words, etc.

Anyways - I'm just giving some context to another mind bending podcast. HAPPY 100TH EPISODE! 

Enjoy. 

A bit longer podcast today, talking about "Finding your voice."   As always, first we connect with Luana Anders on the Flipside, my friend who passed in 1996 who helps me and Jennifer to facilitate these conversations.  There's a conversation up front about that process and how we got started before we ask Luana to introduce the first guest on her list.

Elvis came forward to talk about "finding your voice." We didn't ask for him to come forward, but as fans of this podcast know, it's whomever has asked to speak to us. Could be someone we've interviewed in the past, could be someone that we both know, in this case, there are a number of people that come forward - personal friends and others.

He wanted to refer to a person's "voice" - that energy or frequency that relates to who they are over many lifetimes.  I asked Prince to comment on the recently found footage of him in Minneapolis, Jennifer wasn't aware of it - but Prince was an accurately describes what is in the clip.

My dearest friend Charles Grodin stopped by to talk about a couple of things, and weighed in about the recent Oscar telecast where the "in Memoriam" section was so convoluted, and the famous "slap heard round the world."  Interesting to note that Charles echoed what Denzel Washington said afterwards; "Who are we to judge?" Charles reminding us that "from the flipside we see things in terms of a person's overall journey - all of their lifetimes and how that translates into action in this lifetime."

Then Amelia Earhart stopped by for a chat. Jennifer didn't know that I was speaking about her recently in a surprise appearance on "Coast to Coast" in the middle of the night, and Amelia continued to encourage me to make a film about what really happened to her.   

Then a discussion about angels and "Pegasus."  Jennifer notes that she had recently gotten an email from someone involved in a case in Texas where she's helping law enforcement - and the contents of the email were about what seeing a "Pegasus" represents metaphorically.  It's about transportation - as we've heard from people who self identify as "angels."  

"The wings are a metaphor for travel between realms at the speed of thought."

Interesting discussion over all.  

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PS: Six hours ago, Julian Lennon released this version of him singing his father's song "Imagine."  It was yesterday we recorded this session. Elvis used this song as an example of "finding your voice." Perhaps he was referring to this version of the song. Take a moment to enjoy this song, and think of the folks in Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/NicWjYMPDG0

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Today's podcast is about process.  In our ongoing conversation with Luana Anders, our pal no longer on the planet but who moderates a classroom on the flipside, we asked her about process. How people are able to connect with their loved ones on the flipside, but from the perspective of someone on the flipside trying to reach out to someone here.

In today's conversations, Luana has Charles Grodin, TV producer Howard Schultz and others weigh in on the process.  We have guest appearances by Garry Shandling on the anniversary of his passing, who talks about the "venn diagram" of creating structures like golf courses on the flipside - a short chat with Marilyn about the recent Vanity Fair article about her relationship with RFK. 

There's also a chat with Dick Clark who stops by to chat about the process. It's all mind bending stuff, and again, we do our best to talk about the process. Buckle up, it's going to be a unusual journey.

Happy St. Patrick's Day.  

 Today we have an interesting chat with someone who self identifies as "the Librarian."  In this instance, he suggested we call him "Seven" as to avoid separation between us and him.  He says that he's the librarian for all the Akashic libraries - normally shows up as an ancient fellow who is about the size and demeanor of Yoda.

In the half dozen times I've chatted with him, via different people, each time he gives insight into the journey. In this case he self identifies as the "Librarian" of all Akashic libraries - not throughout all realms and universes, but the ones we might have access to.  He mentions that as a result of that, he's connected to all of us - at least on a frequency level.

It's an unusual talk - and is in line with our other mind bending conversations with him (listed as "five" at MartiniZone.com).  All I can say is, whoever shows up, we try to ask as many questions as we can.

Happy wearing of the green.

We had our first guest on our podcast - first guest that is still on the planet that is!  I had the good fortune to take a class with Robert Thurman at Columbia University back in the 90's. As noted in my talk at the Conference of Living and Dying recently via Tibet House, I was working for Charles Grodin on his talk show when I audited this class in philosophy.

It led me to study Tibetan philosophy - Buddhism in particular, which I find to be a peerless philosophy. Robert is an author of many excellent books about Buddhist philosophy, including but not limited to "Inner Revolution" and beautiful translation of the "Bardo Thodol" in the "Tibetan Book of the Dead." His book "Circling the Sacred Mountain was instrumental in my own trip to Mt. Kailash with him in 2004. I've had the privilege to travel with him and his wife Nena to Ladakh, and then later a trip across Tibet where I filmed the journey for a documentary on YouTube "Journey Into Tibet with Robert Thurman." https://youtu.be/MqbG_RY4eiY

Robert is one of the wisest, most insightful humans I've met - it's a privilege for him to appear on our podcast. He recently became aware of this podcast during my talk for the Conference, so it was his suggestion he come on to see if he could communicate with anyone "no longer on the planet." It was in that spirit we tried this experiment.

As Jennifer notes, she isn't aware of his life or journey outside of knowing he's the father of Uma, and that he's a Buddhist scholar. He's a passionate speaker, and at the moment clearly wanted to express his dismay over the war in Ukraine, and his solidarity for the people who are suffering, as well as the suffering of the Russians who want no part in killing their neighbors.

My apologies for playing the role of moderator here - to keep us on track to speak to people on the flipside who might want to speak to Robert. As noted - I texted Jennifer and said Robert wanted to come on the podcast, and she replied "His mentor wants to talk to him." (Jennifer had no idea who that would be.) Later she texted "His mom really wants to talk to him." Then "Steve Jobs told me that he knows him."

We didn't get to Robert's mom, but we did get to the other two. For the skeptics in the audience, allow me to say "this podcast isn't for you." That's fine - skepticism is healthy - we can't really understand skydiving until we jump out of the plane. For those who are devout Buddhists who may find this disconcerting, I can vouch that Robert has spent his whole life sharing the dharma, Buddhism across the globe.

I recall a monk coming up to us in Tibet, in a cave, outside the view of the soldiers in the courtyard and saying "thank you americans for remembering us." I heard him whisper it in English in Robert's ear - the comment brought me to tears. "Thank you for remembering us." The same can be said of those who are no longer on the planet. "Thank you for remembering us."

This podcast is dedicated to remembering those who have gone before us - one can imagine that everything that is said in this podcast is subconscious information, but I suggest looking for new information that could not be cryptomnesia - something someone heard or read. Jennifer is not trying to prove there is an afterlife, she works with law enforcement agencies daily helping people with details to solve cases (the investigators consider it a way to gain new information that turns into evidence). We do this podcast in the same vein - consider this as gathered intelligence that point to a greater truth.

It may very well be that we are pulling these concepts out of thin air - but after having filmed people accessing this information for over ten years, 100s of examples indicate otherwise. As always with any insight, we hope that sharing this information heals someone who is in need of healing, sharing this information helps people who need help, sharing these concepts help people to open their minds to the possibility that life continues on and if so, it makes sense for us to learn something new from those no longer with us.

After all, the love doesn't die - they still care about us as we did then, it's only we who stop caring about them by pretending we cannot hear them. I can't help but reflect on how my friend Luana's passing led me to Robert's class, which led me to Tibet and India, which led me to this podcast, which led me to this episode. The "red string" of our lives continues on.

I hope you enjoy this podcast as much as we did making it. Love love. For more information about Robert and Tibet House, see thus.org . His books, lectures and teachings are priceless - find more about him at BobThurman.com

For more information about Jennifer, she's at JenniferShaffer.com - I'm at RichMartini.com - for those who are first time viewers, buckle up - to quote bob's pal; "we are all just walking each other home."

Fifteen minutes before our podcast I learned that one of my closest pals on the planet had left the planet.   Sally was best friends with Luana Anders, they traipsed around Hollywood together, lived together, stayed best friends for both of their lives.  Sally's husband Jonathan Krane was my champion - produced three films that I directed, believed in me as no other person in Hollywood has.

He was John Travolta's manager.  He also ran a mini studio, pioneered a number of innovative ways of financing and making feature films.  He was behind hit films like "Look Who's Talking" and other John Travolta films.  

Sally was an oscar nominated actress (MASH) who worked often with Robert Altman, who was beloved by man - as noted in the podcast, dated Henry Kissinger.  She had three children - one was her sister's whom she adopted, Claire, and the other two were also adopted Hannah and Jack.  Of course the flipside research shows that people "seek out their parents" even when they're born to someone else.

It's unusual for me to do a podcast, so soon, without giving anyone the time to grieve. My apologies to those who feel that is the case. However, based on the research, I've learned that people who had dementia, as Sally did in her later years, are "already one foot out the door."  They literally leave a portion of their conscious energy behind to continue helping and healing others who take care of them. 

Sally was/is someone who gave of herself to her friends.  She was funny, witty, and I got to spend a year of lunches where I had her tape record her autobiography into a cassette player. The idea that having me ask her questions helped her recall events.  Another writer ghost wrote from those recordings her book "Hot Lips."  But I got a front row seat to some hilarious stories.

I mention two in this podcast.  

Suffice to say that a light in my life has left the building - but I do this podcast to show people how easy it is to contact their loved ones. It certainly helps to have someone as skilled as Jennifer to interpret what she's seeing... like seeing "Robert" and asking me if that referred to our friend Robert Towne, and me realizing she's hearing "Robert" because Altman was there to greet her.

Jennifer doesn't know anything about Sally's career, but I do. I'm going to miss her laughter, but I'm sure I'll be hearing more of it. Those who loved her will have their own memorials for Sally - and while this happened rather quickly, as you can see, I was born to ask questions about friends who are on the flipside.

And Jennifer, who works with law enforcement agencies daily on missing person cases, is generous enough to share her talents in this area.  It's an unusual way to present something - I know it - but this was an example I could not let slide.

The conference mentioned starts today, and tickets or the link is on my webpage RichMartini.com

Another unusual session - this time in Jennifer's office, completely unplanned.   In this session, or mentor on the flipside, Luana Anders, suggests that I prepare to speak at the Art of Living and Dying conference (see RichMartini.com for details) by visiting my own council.

We take a trip to visit my "council."  When I did my first hypnotherapy session for the film and book "Flipside" I met my council.  At the time, I didn't think I would "get anywhere" let alone have a conversation with a group of a advisors and teachers on the flipside, but in the 100 sessions I've filmed, people can and do have conversations with these wise beings who each person has their own version of.

We only had time to speak to two of the council members, but then Jennifer's attention was directed to my "higher conscious self."  Based on the research, we bring a portion of our conscious energy to a lifetime and the rest "stays home."  In this instance, Luana points out that the number of council members is not set in stone, nor is the fact that people learn more from each lifetime and are constantly changed, learning and growing.

It's mind bending to say the least, not something I've ever witnessed or participated in before - but as I point out in the podcast, something I often report, but have never had the experience of chatting directly with "my higher self."

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Even writing the headline for these podcasts is problematic.

 Do we know for a fact this was Steve Jobs coming for a chat? No. Jennifer has done a session with his daughter, and Steve has come forward a number of other times to answer questions. As noted in the podcast, she was doubting it was him at first as well.

Yes, we discuss the winner of the Super Bowl. Because everyone out there who wants to meet with a medium, wants to use their powers to discern the future. And we have a healthy discussion about what that entails and why that might be important or unhealthy, depending.

Steve came forward to let us know he's working on a "cell phone" to the flipside from his side of the veil. That isn't a device, something you can hold in your hand - although he did encourage me to create an app to do so - but he was talking about helping those on the flipside to "lower their frequency" to communicate with their pals, loved ones, relatives on the denser side - the side we are in on the planet.

For those keeping track; the three step process is 1. Love. 2. Stay open. 3. Just listen.  

It sounds impossibly vague, but if one has spent over a decade chatting with folks on the flipside via hypnotherapy, mediumship and meditation, it's a lot more complex than it sounds.  But it's a lot less complex than it sounds.

If someone wants to help me create an app, by all means, reach out to MartiniProds at gmail.  If one wants to complain that none of this is possible or logical - hold that thought, as we're focusing on experience or data that helps folks to reach out to the flipside.

Enjoy the game, even if now you know what the outcome will be!

After this podcast, where we talk about the ways to communicate from the flipside to this side, I was in the car and put on a random 50's station, and lo and behold Elvis was singing "TREAT ME NICE." 

 That is something that he mentions in this podcast. That when we access people on the flipside, if we think of them in angry terms, the messages don't get through.  However, if we "treat them nice" we can communicate with pretty much anyone.

Another unusual podcast in a sea of them.  In this case, Luana Anders, my pal who passed in 1996 helps facilitate a "classroom" where people stop by and converse. In this instance, the late Charles Grodin, a good friend, pal stopped by to mention that he observed the interview I did on camera for a film about him last week. 

He correctly recounted to Jennifer what I had said about him - even though there was no human way she could have known the content.  She corrects me that she was aware I was doing an interview about Charles Grodin, but due to our schedules I wasn't able to tell her the content of the interview, how it went, etc.

This podcast is to demonstrate how simple it is to access loved ones no longer on the planet. Don't need a hypnotherapist (it can help) don't need a medium (it can obviously help) but one can meditate on their loved one and strike up a conversation.

Not everyone wants to or has to - but for those who do, it's demonstrating the possibility of doing so.

The conference mentioned in the podcast is this month, will be given online and sign up for it can be found at my web page RichMartini.com

Thanks for stopping by!

An extra long episode for today - caught Jennifer at the end of her long day instead of in the middle of it.

We start off by talking about some day to day issues, reminding the audience we're going to be appearing together at the ContactInTheDesert.com event on June 1st, at 10:30 "How to Talk to One’s Council: Including ET’s Workshop with Jennifer Shaffer and Richard Martini Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:30am–12:05pm Location: Independence Room (Contact In the Desert) 

Jennifer asked me how folks could sign up to do a guided meditation with me, they can by sending me an email at MartiniProds@gmail.com - 

We invited Luana Anders to come and talk to us about two friends of hers who had crossed recently. Both friends and colleagues of hers.  In the first instance, I name the individual, who was famous in Hollywood, but not so much outside the business.

The second person, her first name is used; she was a close friend of Luana's and those who know Luana and her story will likely recognize the name, those who aren't aware of it, will not.

And I prefer it that way - because that allowed her to speak about her journey directly from the flipside - since Jennifer had no idea who this woman was.

Jennifer also didn't know who Roger Corman is or was, and why these interviews are so unusual - because we are demonstrating how easy it is for ANYONE to speak to their loved ones offstage.

Literally invited them to come and share details about their journey.

I've been doing this with Jennifer for over 8 years, have been filming people talking to their loved ones via hypnotherapy or meditation for another 7 years, for a total of fifteen years.

It's not opinion, theory or belief that people can speak to, learn new information from people offstage - it's footage, data or in the science from the University of Virginia lab DOPS that demonstrates consciousness is not confined to the brain.

We had some visitors as well - Kobe stopped by to say "hi" (Jennifer has worked with members of his family) Bill Paxton stopped by to tease Jennifer about always forgetting his name, Charles Grodin made a short appearance - and people who know me, know that Luana and Charles were best pals for over 30 years, and I was close with him for 20.  Every time he shows up, I know that I'm getting something fun to hear from my friend who is godfather to my kids. 

Bill and I met early on, while he was shooting Aliens in London, remained pals, but I rarely saw him outside of Cannes.  But he's shown up so many times that there's a film "talking to Bill Paxton" on Amazon where I had three different mediums ask Bill the same identical questions - only questions he could answer - and in one instance did so via a third person (blind study) who read my questions to the medium. I wasn't anywhere near them when they filmed that. Bill answered the same every time.

As noted at the end of this podcast, everything that Jennifer said - including the moment I was driving in Westwood and heard my friend's voice in my head saying "I went there!" when driving by the UCLA sign. (Funny, I just looked that detail up to confirm it and yes, she did).

Life does not end.

Our loved ones still exist.

One can access them, ask them questions.

It doesn't require a medium, but it can help.

Meditation works, so does hypnotherapy. 

They want to continue the conversation.

Let them.

We are all heading home either way - as Ram Dass put it: 'We are all just walking each other home."

Indeed.

Try to enjoy the ride.

Hello! Jennifer and I have been trying to get together for weeks, were "thisclose" to podcasting last week, but a number of bugs in the ointment conspired to make it not happen.

 In today's podcast we go over a bit of what we've been doing - Jennifer helping people around the planet, me meeting with someone who was able to access the flipside this afternoon.

This podcast, despite the number of people who have checked off the planet lately, was about how the "veil is thinning."  It's that a number of clients of Jennifer's have expressed that to be the case, and how people seem to be doing more "communication" with folks no longer on the planet.

Another unusual chat with her father Jim who stops by to clarify some issues as well.  More to come!

Welcome to the New Year of 2022!    Here Jennifer and I are picking up from where we left off last year - after both of us coming down with Covid, and me trying not to cough my way through the show. Apologies for the cough drop walla, just unavoidable.

In this podcast we asked who wanted to come forward, and I was surprised to see George Harrison step in - as in the past he was a reluctant speaker. Mostly opted for witty sarcasm - but as this podcast and our interviews have been going on weekly for seven years, people on the flipside have gotten used to the idea of "showing up" when they have something to say.

In this case, he wanted to talking about "creating a new algorithm" for a person's life. That is - to focus on the positive, to focus on intent and creating love within your work, your day, and that in turn will affect one on their journey.  Sage advice.

Betty White showed up - not to be interviewed - we don't always get interviews with people who've just crossed over, as they're busy acclimating to the new environment. She opted to just "observe" and I slipped in one question about who greeted her on the flipside.

It was widely reported that her last word was "Allen" and before I could ask the question, Jennifer answered it on Betty's behalf.  All I can say is that in 7 years of doing this with Jennifer, it's not that she's reading my mind, it's that folks on the flipside already know what we're going to ask.

That has been consistent. 

Then I had a question for Charles Grodin about his work with prisons and helping get non violent prisoners out of prison - and ending the "felony murder rule" something he was passionate about in life. He confirmed that he had shown up while we were watching the latest Spiderman with the theme that "your work doesn't die with you."  It continues on - not only in the lives of those you have influenced, but also from the flipside.

It's a profound message in a film - but it's in the movie, and as noted in the podcast I didn't experience feeling his presence, but three of my family members did simultaneously.  It's not like there was some direct or obvious reference to him - but all three said after the film "The weirdest thing happened while watching the film, it's as if Chuck was there."  Chuck was their godfather, so it's not beyond the ability of someone to argue he's always keeping an eye on them - but my wife and children all felt him in the room.

Finally, Jennifer's dad Jim stops by to chat about the process - he's always got some great insight into the flipside, and is fun to chat with.  Luana also had a few things to say about process and keeping our loved ones alive in our hearts because they want to continue to help and assist us from the flipside.

Hope this helps someone. Happy New Year. 

Due to circumstances beyond our control, both Jennifer and I have come down with versions of the flu. Both of us are okay, but not up to doing our "year end" podcast that we so wanted to do. We may do that next week.

Meanwhile, for all of our fans, here's a previous unseen session filmed in Jennifer's office in Manhattan Beach.  I started off by invited Cass Elliot (in the theme of "Tuning Into the Afterlife" now on sale at Amazon) we zipped around and got a number of Avatars to swing by - both mythological ones and ones who are firmly ensconced in the religious pantheons.

As always, we're doing the best we can - Jennifer has the gift of being a cellphone to the Flipside, and I have the gift of being able to ask any question to anyone - and not know if I can or should get an answer.

This is one of those sessions for our fans - it was made in August of 2019, the transcript is in the book BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE, an excerpt is in the book TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE, and as noted, more information can be found at RichMartini.com - including the upcoming "The Art of Dying to Live" conference I'm speaking at in late February with some of the luminaries of that world.

Hoping everyone that listens or watches our podcast has a safe and fun New Year's celebration, and looks forward to rewiring the planet as well as their brains by focusing on the heart.

All we have is love.  Love love. 

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we've had to dig into the stocking by the fireplace for a podcast this week, the last one of 2021.   Why not just rerun the one we did last year at this same time? Sounds like a great idea.

Wishing all our listeners and friends a happy holidaze, and here's the reaching out to our loved ones on the flipside. They say that they're with us during the holidays, because of course we think of them. They say that we should toast them in present tense because after all they can hear us when we cannot hear them.

The report that they are okay, are happy to see us happy, so the more the merrier, the more love that is spread, the more they can participate in that love.  As Robin Williams said to Jennifer one afternoon, "Love love."  It was an admonition and a way to navigate the planet.

Love what love is - those around you who represent love, love oneself selflessly, as well as others.

In that spirit, we wish you all happiest of holidays and we'll catch you on the flipside!

This is a bit different, as Jennifer had spoken with someone who was close to Steve Jobs the day before, and alerted me that he might want to stop by the podcast for a chat.

  I didn't know that to be the case, but we had spoken to him before, so I prepared some questions beforehand. As noted, some of the questions to him, Jennifer could not know the answers. His comment that his relationship with Kubun Otogawa "saved his life so he could have his life" - was spot on, as he was a Zen Master that had a profound influence on Steven's life.

The questions about his LSD trip, his last words, and his comments about Joe Ranft are on the money as well.  Jennifer isn't familiar with the controversy around his first daughter, who wrote a book about his bad behavior. But he was aware of it, and comments on it. 

The point of this podcast is not to prove to anyone that "life goes on."  It's in the consistent and reproducible reports that people can seek the evidence that life goes on - because people can access anyone who has been on the planet, and ask the same questions and see if the answers differ in any fashion.

To date, they have not. As noted, we've been at this for seven years, I've been filming these interviews for longer, and the 9 books out there have transcripts. There are two documentaries on Amazon Prime via Gaia - "Flipside" and "Hacking the Afterlife" that give context to what you're about to see or hear. 

I apologize in advance to all those that this information will offend because of their world view or belief system. Having been filming people under hypnosis or without hypnosis accessing the same information, Jennifer is one of many mediums I've asked to be a cell phone to the flipside.  

The fact that we're still doing it after seven years attests to our friendship.  The book she's talking about is "TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE: HOW TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE FLIPSIDE" is available on Amazon and Audible.

The book includes a number of interviews with different people on the flipside, including my mom, a concert pianist.  The point of this podcast and these reports is to demonstrate to everyone how simple it is - but the key is to be open to the possibility, as noted by none other than Steve Jobs.

It's our Anniversary Special!

 Jennifer reached out to me 7 years ago, after listening to the audible for my second book "It's a Wonderful Afterlife." At the time I didn't know anything about mediums, other than I'd met a few who were spot on and amazingly accurate. I didn't realize that it was another methodology for accessing information on the flipside.

So we spent three hours together our first meeting - me filming her accessing people on the flipside. Me asking her questions about her path and journey - all on film.  She knew more about a person on the flipside (Amelia Earhart) than anyone I'd ever met - and I'd worked on two feature films about her.  Not because Jennifer knew about Amelia - but because it was like having Amelia in the room answering my pointed questions.

After that we began meeting weekly for seven years.  Let me say that again - for some reason, for seven years, she and I have been conversing with the flipside for seven years.  Excerpts of those conversations are in the film "HACKING THE AFTERLIFE" full transcripts are in the book "Hacking the Afterlife", "Backstage Pass to the Flipside 1, 2, 3" - as the latest book "Tuning Into the Afterlife."

That is all a prelude to what happens next.

A day before, a friend of mine posted a photograph of Billy Preston referring to the trauma he'd experienced as a child. I wrote under his post, "Not gone, just not here."  It's hard to say to people that our loved ones are "not gone" - but to raise awareness that they are somewhere else.

Which made me think, "I would like to interview him on the flipside."  Lo and behold, the next day, doing this podcast, Jennifer says "I'm seeing Nat King Cole."  We had interviewed him before (I spent a semester at his high school when I was in high school in Chicago) so that wasn't odd to hear.  However, she said "He's singing that song "You are so beautiful."

Most people don't know that Billy Preston wrote that song. (with Bruce Fisher, not Diane Warren as I say in the clip). But because she mentioned it - I realized that Luana had put an image of Nat in Jennifer's mind to get me into the ballpark, and by having her hear "You Are So Beautiful" was to allow me to connect those dots.

And it happens live on camera. But Jennifer doesn't know who "Billy" is and I don't say his last name until the end of the podcast. That allowed me to ask her specific questions about Billy and his journey. I knew that Eric Clapton was a close friend, so when I asked her to ask him about his friend Eric's visit to his deathbed, she said "I'm seeing Eric Clapton."

I didn't say his name. She did.

Because we've interviewed John and George before - as Jennifer notes in the podcast she did a session with one of George's friends who was able to access him - (Gary) - and we've chatted with John a few times (anyone can) - I asked for Billy's impression of John and George.

Again - she hasn't seen the film "Get Back" she isn't aware of the relationship between the three of them. So what we get to hear is unadulterated reactions to my questions from someone no longer on the planet.

Everything is interpretation - everything is frequency. So some of the answers may be skewed by interpretation, some may be skewed by my asking them inappropriately. For example, I didn't know that Billy had a sister - so when Jennifer says "the love of his life was the husband of his sister" - that may mean "a boyfriend his sister had at a young age" it could mean someone closely associated with his sister.  

And his sister is alive - so if she's reading this, my apologies for asking a question that I didn't know what he would reply - and we tend to not edit or change what comes through. It's an impression that Jennifer got, that the "love of his life" was his first love, which was someone associated with his sister.  Whether they were together or not isn't important.

The portion about the abuse - looking up the details after the sessions, I learn that it was by someone in a church band - not someone in the church per se, but someone who molested and abused him as a child. (When he was forced to move to a new city and be part of this band in Los Angeles.) Jennifer asks if he was an orphan - and the answer was that he "had the feeling of being an orphan" when he was moved abruptly to the new city.

Having been doing this for so long with Jennifer, when it seems as if I'm "leading her" it IS THAT I'M LEADING HER. I've been doing this for so long with her, I'm anticipating what she might say, and as you can hear, I interrupt her to focus on questions I can verify. (Like "did he play drums?" - he did play other instruments, the drums reference might have been about Ringo, but I focused on things I can verify about Billy's life.)

Needless to say - anyone who has seen Get Back will see what I'm talking about when his presence in the band is treated with reverence. I saw it, but Jennifer did not.  And the answers are mind bending if not mind blowing in scope.  

So this is an appropriate Anniversary Special.  It shows what seven years of constant conversation with the flipside can do.  Allow people to open themselves up to the possibility that people live on.

Again - because we live in a world of celebrity, I'm not posting this to connect myself or Jennifer with famous musicians or people. We are doing this specifically to show, demonstrate to everyone that it is possible to connect with loved ones, it is possible that they still exist, it is possible to converse.  All of this work - the seven years of it - has been to open up that door for people.  

Because it's time. It's time to realize that life goes on. That consciousness goes on. That are loved ones still care about us, still want to assist or help us, and we are the ones who either prevent them from doing so - or can open the door for them. 

So open the door by opening one's heart.  "That's the Way God Planned it" "Will It Go Round In Circles" "Nothing From Nothing" "A Change is Gonna Come" "Love the One You're With" (based on a comment Stephen Stills heard from Billy) "You Are So Beautiful" - all these titles are about the beautiful journey Billy took and that we all take.

This is something filmed in April of 2019.   It was on the heels of a conversation with Hawking, Sagan, Tesla and Einstein. That interview is in the book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside 3" - this one is reproduced in the new book "Tuning into the Afterlife."

There's a number of unusual concepts covered in this session, talking to Stephen Hawking about how to access a "slice of time." The story that I'm referring to was told by the actor Hank Azaria on the Stephen Colbert show - prefaced by the "funniest thing I ever heard."

He said it was during a table read, and Harry Shearer, the comedian and many voices on the show, was waiting for Hawking who was an hour late to the table read.  Harry said "The man has no sense of time."

I asked how he was able to know what the punchline to Shearer's joke was, since he wasn't in the room when he said it. Hawking talks about the akashic records as "floppy disks" that retain all the events from a slice of time and refers to them as mathematical numbers (like sequences, like algorithms, like CGI on a computer screen is all 1s and 0s.)

At one point Jennifer mentions the physicist Michio Kaku and a violin - something she's not aware of but recently, years after this was filmed, Kaku came out with this latest book about string theory.

All I can do is ask questions and report as best I can. Certainly we're going to get some of these answers wrong - but it's worth noting that some of them we get right.  I mean - that I ask the right question at the right time to get a mind bending response.

Enjoy. Tuning into the Afterlife is out on Audible, Kindle, Paperback and Hard Cover via Amazon.

This is one of those unusual podcasts where again, no plan, just chatting with Jennifer.  And in this case, a dog came through that I knew 30 years ago - that I walked for three years for my then boss Robert Towne, Oscar winning screenwriter.

Hira was a unique pet - treated me like a vassal, had a persona that I can remember thinking "this isn't a dog. This is like a person who allows me to walk with him, rather than walk him."  Robert and Hira had a terrific bond, even though Robert had other dogs before and since.

Some years ago, when I was talking to Robert about my research, he told me he was a skeptic, didn't believe in any version of there being an afterlife. And so, as a proof of concept, I scheduled a conversation with Jennifer and our mutual friend Ed Taylor, who passed away, but knew Robert from college.

He came through clear as a bell, and towards the end of the interview, I asked if I could "speak to Hira."  Jennifer had no idea who that was - but realized it was a dog. We had a detailed conversation with him - and have since then numerous times. Hira recalls so many events with specificity that I could not know, it forced Robert to say to me "I was convinced my whole life that the afterlife didn't exist, and now I'm convinced it does. What happened?"

Experience happened.  Hira is only known to Robert - and not to me, really. But Robert and him spent time together, he credits Hira with Robert writing "Chinatown" because of the way he used to smell the air on Catalina.  He credits Hira with his writing "Greystoke: Tarzan" - because he realized how sentient of a being Hira was.

So the idea that Hira would "come through" because he wanted to speak to us about "how to communicate with animals" is mind bending. I didn't invite him, wasn't thinking about him - nor was Jennifer. Luana Anders, our moderator on the flipside, the person with the clipboard, knew Hira.  And here he is - giving us new information about "how to speak with your pet no longer on the planet."

It's mind bending, and I know it's accurate because I've been doing this work for ten years.  It's fine for people to dismiss it, ignore it, even laugh about it - it doesn't change the fact that I've been getting new information from animals no longer on the planet during many of my filmed sessions. 

There are a few examples in the documentary "Hacking the Afterlife" on Gaia, and in the book "Architecture of the Afterlife." Anyone can do the same - doesn't need a medium (it helps) doesn't need a hypnotherapist (it helps) or me giving them a guided meditation. 

Our loved ones are not gone, and our pets are not gone either.  

This is a book talk that I gave in Laguna Woods about "Eleven eleven" in 2019.

 The information still applies.  Jennifer was busy today and could not participate in the podcast. This is a 90 minute book talk, so for those who can handle me speaking non stop for two hours, this is for you.

Talk was given for the "Life After Life" club in Laguna Woods that covers my journey into the flipside, as well as some of the latest reports.  

Refers to books "Flipside" "It's a wonderful afterlife" "Hacking the Afterlife" and "Backstage Pass to the Flipside: Talking to the Afterlife with Jennifer Shaffer."  Cites sessions from Scott De Tamble (lightbetweenlives.com) and Jennifer Shaffer (JenniferShaffer.com). 90 minutes of Flipside tales.

By the way, during the talk, I mention how Dr. Eben Alexander was guided around his near death experience by his sister who "died before he was born."  I'm told that she died "a month before his birth family reached out to him."  

So he did not know her, could not have known her, but when he met her during his near death event, felt "as if he had known her forever."

Enjoy. 

This is another one of those podcasts about process.

In this case, Jennifer recounts going to someone's house to do some mediumship work, and this person added a wall of photographs to their home.  The idea was to "remember where we came from and how we got here."

Along those lines, a discussion of how Jennifer's father had come through and given us advice from the flipside about how to deal with grief.  He said "grief is only sad memories, but nostalgia is both sad and happy memories - when you can move grief to nostalgia you begin the healing process."

Luana, our moderator from the flipside, wanted to talk about "the Day of the Dead."  While having both Basque and Swedish roots, Luana had relatives who had lived in both Mexico City as well as in Santa Fe.  Her Basque relatives came from a long line of people who lived near Spain - and their culture predates the Roman era.

She wasn't close to the Mexican side of her family, but we did spend some time in Mexico together - both when we met and then years later with frequent trips south of the border.

She's relating to the idea of "putting up photos of loved ones" around one's home in order to stay in touch with them. Luana also speaks about the concept of "moving on" but at the same time, realizing our loved ones have moved on as well, but want to continue to stay in touch with us.

A shortened podcast due to a wifi issue, but hopefully next week we'll spend some more time "with the dead" realizing that they can't be dead if they can answer our questions with new information.  There's a mention of the forum on Quora "Hacking the Afterlife" - which is here: https://hackingtheafterlife.quora.com/

Jennifer returned from her trip to Mexico and we dive into what people in our class on the flipside wanted to talk about; the upcoming "Contact in the Desert" workshop on Saturday, June 1st. (ContactInTheDesert.com)

First up was Ma Durga, the Hindu deity who has appeared in a number of conversations with people on the flipside. Jennifer's father identified her as the 8 armed teacher from his astrophysics class.

She's shown up in other conversations, guided meditations - and after asking her multiple questions. she is seen by most people as this kind of 8 armed octopus time person/woman. She told us previously that she was incarnated as a young girl on earth, as well as an octopus, and "kept the 8 arms because they're useful as a teacher." 

She's funny, slightly off beat - and has offered to show up at our workshop on Saturday to talk about "aliens" and how we don't need to fear what we don't understand. Mind bending stuff. She was interrupted by "Five" - the Akashic librarian that we've interviewed before, that I've also seen or met in multiple other avenues, during someone's hypnotherapy session (Divine Councils in the Afterlife) as well as during guided meditations with people (Architecture of the Afterlife) as well as multiple times on our podcast. (Search "Five")

He uses the number because it's non denominational, has no gender.  He's a sage, wise person, a bit like Yoda in stature.  But he too has offered to show up at our workshop (Not literally, but to answer questions that I pose to him). 

Again, I can't see him or Ma Durga, but Jennifer can (and Ma Durga is a bonafide Hindu deity - look her up).  Then we had a visit from Harry Dean Stanton.

Oddly enough I was reading Ed Begley Jr's hilarious autobiography, which mentions Harry a number of times. ("To the Temple of Tranquility and Step On It!") Harry Dean Stanton is/ was quite a character, funny, and much beloved by his closest pals (like Fred Roos). 

Anyways, a conversation with Harry Dean about telling people not to get hung up over the word "God" or the concept of "God" - but to just allow that there are things, beings, people that exist that are higher intelligences than us - and that's okay, also that whatever one believes doesn't change the fact that there is an afterlife. (Something he argued against for much of his career.)

He had a private message for Ed Begley Jr. so I will forward it to him. Thanks Jennifer!

Unusual podcast today - first a conversation about dreams, and how dreams are created, both with folks no longer on the planet, and our memories of them.   A dive into how consciousness functions.

And then, when asked if our moderator on the flipside Luana Anders has brought anyone in to speak with us, she introduces Jesse Owens, because "there aren't enough athletes in our class."

Which is pretty funny - Jennifer knew little about Jesse, I knew a tad more that she does - but look up some details while we are doing the show.  He wanted to stop by and talk about health, and how the "media we consume" can be a health hazard (without saying it in exactly those words.)

At some point I ask him about his famous achievements, and why he might have chosen a difficult lifetime, what he wanted to show people, and he says "Hope."

He was only 66 when he departed in 1980, but it was fun to be able to chat with him. Muhammed Ali stops by for a few choice words ("I'm still the prettiest") and again - Jennifer is less aware of his journey than I am.

Which makes for an unusual and interesting podcast. Thanks for tuning in.

Jennifer is back from the UK and worlds beyond!

 In this shortened episode, we discuss some things with our moderator on the flipside Luana Anders, who talks about her observations of the planet.

It bears repeating that Luana was my 20 year companion, who passed to the flipside in 1996, who started showing up in dreams, visions, and then to members of my family prior to doing any of this research into the Flipside. As noted in the book "Flipside: A Tourist's Guide on How to Navigate the Afterlife" it was her appearance that inspired this journey.

I spent ten years filming people under hypnosis accessing their own loved ones on the flipside, and then, when meeting Jennifer Shaffer, it was Luana who made that connection. And now, she's like the "hall monitor" on the flipside, who has a guest list that allows specific individuals into our classroom to discuss the process.

Jennifer and I haven't spoken for at least three weeks, so I have no idea what we're going to discuss prior to the session. In this one, Luana correctly (mind bendingly) points out that "She and I took a trip to Portugal together."

Except when we went together, she was ashes in a pouch in my suitcase. It was just after she had passed, and I was dutifully scattering her ashes in different places around the globe. I had been invited to Bilbao, and stopped by to see Luana's friend (and "group member") Frank Gehry's design of the Guggenheim.

I didn't know there was a pond outside the museum, but when possible, I scatter a small handful of her ashes in waterways that I go to visit - thinking of her when I do so, thinking of all those tiny particles floating around the water, swallowed by a passing fish or whatever metaphor one might want.

I do have the photograph mentioned of me scattering her ashes in Sydney, and having the wind blow them all back into my face (just like in the Cohen brother's film with Jeff Bridges) but then a spotlight appeared out of the clouds right onto me. I'll have to track it down and post it on my blog RichMartini.com - when I write about this unusual podcast.

Anyways, more to come, just a short trip into the flipside today.

This is a podcast from a year ago - when we first started to do zoom sessions and put them on MartiniZone.com at the YouTube channel.  Oldie but goodie while Jennifer is traipsing around the planet.

I begin the segment with me on camera mentioning the two folks I invited to come to the session. Jennifer knew the face of Tom, one of them, didn't know the second one Randi at all.  However, we spoke to Tom before, and this conversation is in honor of his 70th birthday.  We talk about his birthday party on the flipside, and talk about music in general and a little bit of his bio.

Then we shift to Regis Philbin, someone I knew, met through Charles Grodin (had dinner with outside of when he first met me and commented on the air about my mixed striped outfit) and he had a couple of things to say to his friend Chuck.  

Then I interview "the Amazing Randi" - a terrific magician in his own right, who later became the preeminent debunker of all things paranormal.  As was our interview with atheist Harry Dean Stanton (and Carl Sagan) both in the "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" books, he had some amusing anecdotes to say, as well as messages to both Penn and Teller.

Finally Paul Newman strolled by - and we got fifteen minutes with the icon who has a message for John Cusack of all people (someone I know).  We'll speak in more detail to Paul if he desires it - but it's another mind bending hour of your time.

Jennifer is away from the desk for a moment or three.   In the meantime, I was looking through our old interviews.  These were not made for the podcast - they follow the same format, but were not meant to be shown.

The idea was that Jennifer and I would have lunch once a week and see who came forward. These recorded conversations are part of the book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside."  If you haven't read any of them, it's a good place to start.

By this time, we are speaking in short hand.  I know that the restaurant is noisy, but I'm not filming for broadcast. I'm just filming so I have a record of what she is saying.

This clip is part of the film "Paul Allen, Junior Seau and Dave Duerson" on YouTube (free).  But this is the raw footage - the uncut version of what happened that day. I went to the restaurant with the idea that I wanted to speak to someone  I'd never met before, Paul Allen - to see if it was possible to do so.

I have friends who know him - so I asked John Lennon for help because I know his son (He's in Cannes Man), I asked Anthony Bourdain for help guessing he might have met Paul and asked Steve Jobs for help. All three of these people we've interviewed in the past.

So if you're not aware of the process, or have seen our podcast, this clip won't make any sense.  It will seem entirely random and all over the map. I mean at some point I ask Abraham Lincoln to come forward to clarify a point from a previous interview we'd done with him. I wanted to ask him what his favorite poem was.  ("Mortality" - he knew it by heart.)

There are more jumps around the map - George Washington stops by. If you can't imagine how that can work, then start over at the first podcast to understand how it works. But since she's not available, and some are addicted to listening to her - her is 80 minutes of Jennifer. 

Will Shakespeare shows up at the end.  Is it really Will? I don't know. But I ask him the same questions and the answers are just as mind bending as every other one in this session.

Enjoy.

Another mind bending session with Jennifer Shaffer and Luana Anders on the flipside.  I posted some photographs on Facebook of Luana who appeared in Francis Coppola's first film "Dementia 13" as it's being released on Blue Ray this week with a commentary by Francis.  And when mentioning that on our podcast, Jennifer revealed that she's been "reading" a member of the Coppola family since 2009. 

I have no idea of how that came about - it clearly didn't have anything to do with me or Luana since Jennifer and I didn't meet until 6 years ago, and I had not known that she had "met" or helped someone from the family meet with folks on the flipside.

Luana was close with Eleanor and Francis, and we spent many years at their home for Thanksgiving, and as noted in the podcast, Luana spent many times going up there to visit on her own. Francis not only cast her in Dementia 13, she did voice over work for him the Godfather (she's the voice of the nurse who moves Marlon Brando in the film), and also contributed to the script of "One From the Heart."

Fans of this podcast know that Luana was instrumental in dragging me into the flipside, since passing in 1996 in my arms.  She started showing up visually, audibly, in dreams - until I made a concerted effort to "find her."  If she was able to visit me, why couldn't I visit her? And have been doing so since I fell into the research behind "Flipside."

Then, Luana become our conduit for our "classroom" on the flipside. As noted, it was Tom Petty who said "Your friend Luana is like the bouncer at the stage door with the list of people who get into the VIP lounge. No one gets to speak to you unless she approves it."

Today I got an email from a woman in Italy who asked Luana for some help with a classroom she is teaching, and had the distinct impression that Luana said she would, and directed her to look at a video on my YouTube page ("Going Home" a talk I gave at an iands event.)

Anyways, this is a podcast about "Hacking the Afterlife." And Luana gives a number of "Life Hacks" in this one, talking about how to interpret dreams, and how to allow that the visuals we see may be related to other lifetimes as well as other adventures.

Mind bendingly so.

This is one of those podcasts about process. 

 As usual we had nothing on our agenda, but Luana did. At some point she interrupted me (what else is new?) to get Jennifer to say "Luana wants to talk about something." 

I know this is problematic for some people. As I note in the podcast, it's not my opinion, theory or belief that I've been filming people for the past ten years accessing the flipside, it's on film.  It's literally footage.

Take a look at the films "Flipside" or "Hacking the Afterlife" on Amazon Prime. To those who have a problem with this process, find your own. People have suggested I interrupt Jennifer too often; my response is, "Sorry. But book your own session with Jennifer and you can do all the non interrupting you want."

We bring this public service to people because it's not hard to speak to loved ones in the after life. Some claim it is - we're showing it's not.  People pretend it is, but if one takes the time to do the research, look at the clinical case studies, look at the research that shows consciousness is not confined to the brain, their adamant refusal to consider it possible is mind bending.  It is possible. One doesn't need a medium, or a hypnotherapist - but both help.

As to why we do this podcast, as Jennifer notes, about 30% of her time speaking to the flipside is in service of law enforcement. She does that work pro bono - for the public good. It's her version of "tithing."

In my case I've been very clear since publishing "Flipside" in 2012. I've been filming people with or without hypnosis since 2008. 100 cases - half without hypnosis. What they say on camera matches the clinical case studies of Dr. Helen Wambach (a clinical psychologist who did 2750 case studies) or Dr. Brian Weiss (has done 4000 case studies) or Michael Newton and the Newton Institute, who have done over 7000 sessions with people. My version of tithing is to post this podcast, over 100's of hours of footage on this webpage at MartiniZone.com on Youtube.

For those adamant skeptics, look at the peer reviewed science from Dr. Greyson's "After" and his comprehensive NDE research, or Dr. Tucker's "Before" and his 1500 cases studies of reincarnation, or Ed Kelly's "Consciousness Unbound" - peer reviewed science citing how consciousness is not confined to the brain. All gave me a tour of UVA's lab at the DOPS part of the Medical School.  It's directly related to why we do this podcast.

Subjective experience can be studied based on the 100's of examples. If everyone said something different, then we'd have the argument of bias, or projection. Having filmed people saying the same things with or without hypnosis, having mediums report the same things with friends of mine, shows that it cannot be cryptomnesia or my projections. (In the film "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia I had three mediums answer the same questions put to Bill, and all said the same answers, including the one who was asked the questions by a third party. (Triple blind study)

The only thing confined to the brain is opinion, cemented in years of people arguing that experiences mean nothing, that events that occur are meaningless without "mainstream science" weighing in. It took 66 years to go from Kitty Hawk to the Moon, not from the scientists who said people would "never escape gravity" or people who claimed flight was impossible.

Science asks two main things; reports must be consistent and reproducible.  It's the basis of all data.  In this case, we are getting a "hack" from someone who left the planet in 1996.  She has made it a point to wrangle me out of my director's chair (I've written and or directed 9 theatrical feature films) and put me into this podcast chair where I have learned more than I ever could have filming people pretend to be someone they are not.

So enjoy the podcast, at the moment it's free, and given with love. Enjoy a little sage advice coming from the flipside.

Just another day in the park on the flipside.

 In this case, Jennifer got a glimpse of Steve Martin on the Flipside. Because of the people involved, I guessed what that was a reference to.  Not only is Charles Grodin's longtime friend in a successful show on Hulu, so is his pal Martin Short (Clifford.)

As noted in the show, Charles was close to Steve Martin - and despite their close relationship, acknowledges that Steve can't hear him when he's trying to reach out to him.  That's a common refrain, as it's hard for someone to change horses midstream.

As my old boss Robert Towne mentioned after having verifiable evidence of the afterlife (courtesy of Jennifer Shaffer) he said "My whole life I was convinced that the afterlife didn't exist. Now I am convinced that it does exist."

Why is that? 

Experience.  Because no one can talk anyone into believing an afterlife exists, they have to experience it first hand.  Seeing a medium is one avenue, as is hypnotherapy or meditation. All yield the same information and identical results. I know I've been filming people saying the same things about the journey for over ten years.

This isn't for everyone, nor should it be. But the people who need to hear this, or see this at MartiniZone.com on Youtube - will find it. Enjoy.

We got lucky today as Jennifer was available for a full hour.

 We start off with a question about frequency and how electronics seem to influencing and affecting our lifetimes, and at Luana Anders suggestion (neither Jennifer nor I had planned anything in advance) she brought Stephen forward to talk about frequency disruption. 

We've had chats with Stephen before - they're in the books "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" as well as previous podcasts.  The point is - we might not be able to translate what he's telling us, but someone else might try to do the same. Ask him questions about climate change. Ask him to help us alter the path of the planet.  It can't hurt to ask.

Then James Dean came forward - as noted, we've had a number of conversations as of late with James and his pals, as well as the fellow that James himself told us he had "come back as."  Just to clarify - people report we bring a certain portion of our conscious energy to a lifetime.  Many report between 20 and 40% - and when we first spoke to him (in the book "Backstage Pass to the Flipside 3" he said he had brought "about 30% to this current lifetime."

What makes it unusual is that I happen to know the fellow who told Jennifer he has "returned" as. And to repeat myself, I reached out to this fellow's best pal and asked him if his friend had ever been told by anyone that he was the "reincarnation of someone." His texted reply "James Dean."

Since then I've had the same thing confirmed by other folks, not mediums, who for some reason accessed the same information.  What makes it worth noting is that I've met with this person, asked him about his path and journey, and his "whole life" there have been parallels with him and the late actor.

To be crystal clear - he's not going around telling anyone anything. He's not trading in on this detail in any fashion - the opposite actually. He's already got his own life, family, success in many fields - as if James returned in a fellow who exceeded his own expectations.

So as part of this ongoing research, we'll continue to report.

As seen on the podcast, had no clue I'd invite Helen to the podcast. But I did. And that led me to ask questions about my friend who lived in Helen's house - about her sudden passing and I was able to express my affection and gratitude to her.

This podcast exists so people can see how uncomplicated it is to try and speak with loved ones on the flipside. Anyone who tells us that "my religion forbids me speaking to those on the flipside" is inaccurate - because all religions honor, pray to, ask people to converse with those who've moved on. The fact that a religion might suggest not speaking to one's owned loved ones - and only the folks they deem worthy of conversation, belies the falsehood of that concept.   We can and should speak to our loved ones. We don't have to. But we can if we want to. Even if it's someone as famous as Helen - who never spoke in life, but is able to communicate on the flipside.

I note in the subtitles of the podcast that I had no clue if Helen had a relationship with someone - but as it turns out, it was a cause of concern, as in her 30's she fell in love with her interpreter and nearly eloped with him. He left during her "ailment" which may be related to what is reported during the podcast.

I met Don Everly once in my career playing pianos in nightclubs around the planet.   The amazing sax player Craig Cole, a member of our band "Imminent Disaster" and I were playing a gig at Les Deux Cafe. It was just me and Craig and as I began singing "Knocking on Heaven's Door" there was the sound of someone singing harmony in my ear.

As I recount in this episode, I didn't know who it was, but I recognized the voice immediately; Don Everly.  So I thought it would be a good chance that we might be able to connect with him.

The session begins with a visit with James Dean. As noted in the podcast, we didn't invite him - but Jennifer and I had a conversation with him last week via someone who has had a lifetime of visitations from him.  So it wasn't odd for us that he would show up and having something extra to add. 

It's always mind bending when someone shows up - like at the end of the podcast when Jennifer says "Janis Joplin is here and she wants to say something to you."  It took us awhile to unpack what she wanted to say - and it was about this book that I'm doing, that she will be a chapter in. It's about music and the afterlife, or music back "home" as they call it.  

But I invited Don to our class, and he does show up. For those who are eager to hear proof of the afterlife, it's not what we're doing - Jennifer and I have been doing this weekly for six years. There's tons of evidentiary sessions - online ("Paul Allen, Junior Seau and Dave Duerson") where it's clear she's talking to someone on the flipside that has new information. The film "Talking to Bill Paxton" has three mediums ask my old pal the same questions.

The film "Hacking the Afterlife" on Amazon Prime is chock full of experiences that cannot be ascribed to cryptomnesia - so I don't spend time in these podcasts trying to prove something. I'm more interested in process, what "Harmony" means - and if people have journeys they planned in advance.

I know that Phil and Don were estranged, and his description of "hearing his brother" before he saw him is priceless. Having been doing this for six years I always hear something new and fascinating when I ask "So what was it like when you crossed over?"

I also took the time to ask his brother Phil some questions, also to ask Craig Cole some questions (I'd interviewed Craig years ago, but he's not in the books "Backstage Pass to the Flipside") - his description of having a "concert in his honor" makes total sense to me. I played with Craig at the House of Blues, he had a huge following in Los Angeles, was a monster sax player, and if anyone wants to hear him play, search "Point of Betrayal Theme" as he came in and recorded that for me, as well as played on the soundtrack for "Cannes Man." (Hope his wife Mariella sees this.)

But for all those folks listening in for the first time - it's not about talking to "famous people" or "celebrities." There is no celebrity on the flipside. There is only love. Only the people we loved, who carry the frequency of our love. Who know that we grieve for them, who want to let us know that life goes on.

Interesting discussion about that as well - as Don points out "inundating people with information that shows life continues can inspire some people to wallow on grief and not move on" - and that by "not talking to them" allows them to grieve and move on.

It's an unusual point of view - in light of how much work we've done to show people that their loved ones are not gone, they're just not here.

But it's what he's saying - and I'm happy to share what he had to say.  Believe in an afterlife, don't believe in an afterlife - that's a choice - but allow for the possibility that it exists, or that life as we know it does not end.  Based on the research we are "fully aware" prior to coming to the planet that we've chosen to be here, when we are here, we are semiconscious of that fact (some bypass filters to experience the flipside or their higher selves via an NDE, OBE, with LSD, meditation or hypnotherapy). 

But this is yet one more example of a conversation with someone no longer on the planet, but fully aware of what he's talking about, even though he passed less than a week ago.

Recently on the "Hacking the Afterlife" forum on Quora someone asked me why we hadn't interviewed more women.   I pointed out that I wasn't in charge of the guest list, but offered that perhaps there were more men than women was because of the occupations we've chatted with. Quite a few musicians who invite their pals to our classroom.

That's not to say that we've only interviewed guys - in the books "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" there are excerpts of 100s of interviews, quite a few women of note.  Women who have come forward to share their stories - including Amelia Earhart who has stopped by more than once.  A third of the book "Hacking the Afterlife" is multiple interviews with her via different mediums.

But that being said, I suggested to this poster that if they had someone they wanted to chat with, they should take the time to invite them around to do so.  That in my case, I generally let my pal Luana Anders on the flipside create the guest list.

Fans of the podcast know that it was Tom Petty who suggested that Luana was like someone "holding the VIP clipboard to backstage" - he even commented "You have no idea how many people  want to speak in this class!"

For the record, as noted, I reached out to one of his family members who said "Every day I wish I could speak with my dad, but I don't think you are doing so."  Which is fine - I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. It's just something we stumbled upon after filming Jennifer accessing the afterlife for the past six years.

As noted, she works with law enforcement agencies nationwide on missing person cases, so I'm lucky to snag her for a half hour to do our podcast.   The podcast is to demonstrate the process - how easy it is for anyone to access the other side. One doesn't need a medium (it helps) or a hypnotherapist (it helps) - they can do so on their own with a little effort.

In this podcast, I thought "Well, a friend is planning a film about this person, so maybe I can suggest she come to our class. I said her name out loud this morning - just in case she might want to show up. So when Jennifer said it was related to me, and that this person wanted to speak, I told Jennifer her first name was "Janice."

Well, we all know her first name is Janis, but I didn't spell it for her. So as anyone can see - she had no clue as to who I was talking about.  Eventually she did - and I asked her questions not based on the "celebrity of Janis Joplin" but on the idea that no one dies.  Everyone is on the flipside - we can access anyone, our loved ones, our friends - even strangers in this case.

The only connection I have to Ms. Joplin is Luana who was there at the Monterey Pop festival, invited by the promoters, along with Fred Roos and Harry Dean Stanton..  (As reported in the film "Hacking the Afterlife.") For the record, I never mention Janis in that documentary - I knew she was there, but was reminded she was there watching the documentary about Clive Davis when he said he first went there.

She has a message for Clive Davis as well. So if you know Clive (I don't) please pass it along to him. Pass the clip along to him. He's at an age now where he knows that people can access the afterlife, he likely knows people who have, if not himself. As we all grow older we realize that it's possible.

In this case - it's wonderful. 

Enjoy.

Another one of those mind bending podcasts.

In the first half, there's a visit from the one and only Tom Petty.  When he first showed up to talk to us, years back, I asked him "how is it you're appearing to Jennifer in this restaurant in Manhattan beach? I didn't meet you when I was a music critic at Variety, and I don't think Luana met you in her lifetime.  How did you show up?"

His reply was "You have no idea how many people are in line to talk to you guys. It's like your friend Luana has a clipboard at the VIP section backstage and you need to be on the list."

Which is how the name for the books came about BACKSTAGE PASS TO THE FLIPSIDE books 1, 2 and 3, and later TUNING INTO THE AFTERLIFE about all the musicians we've interviewed in the past 8 years.

I asked Tom what he wanted to say and at the time it was a personal thing for his family.  So I transcribed that session, figured out how to get an email to a family member, told them the circumstances of how this "interview" happened... to which they politely replied, "Thanks, but I wish every day we could talk to him, and I don't think you and Jennifer are speaking to him."

Which is fine, logical, completely understandable. So the next time he showed up I said to him "They didn't want to hear from us, it's best you communicate directly to them" to which he replied "It takes time. It's the first of many examples." 

So that being said - I'm not posting this interview to "claim that we have a direct line" to anyone on the flipside. As I've always done - in the past 8 years of working with Jennifer - I ask the same questions to everyone we meet on the podcast. "Who greeted you, what was that like?" etc.  As noted in the podcast, Tom had told us before that he was "greeted by his father" on the flipside, and that was unusual for him as they were estranged (and I later found that was reportedly the case based on interviews with Tom.)

But here we are years later - and I asked him "What's in like for you to revisit us - this many years later? He said "Like the time it takes to turn around."

Which is what people consistently report. Roughly, that "25 years on earth feels like 5 or 10 minutes to someone offstage." That things that occurred years ago, feel like seconds ago.  (And this is repeated in the book FLIPSIDE where I had two hypnotherapy sessions two years apart, yet the second one picked up where I had left off, just a few seconds later.

He came to give some simple musical advice.  "Pick up an instrument and play.  It will do you a world of good." I'm paraphrasing as the comment was directed towards our son, who is a virtuoso on the piano. (His grandmother was a concert pianist, so I'm aware of the term).

Tom wants him to continue to play. After the podcast ended, we did just that. Jammed for a bit. Thanks Tom.

Then Jennifer's mom stopped by - Linda. Whose birthday was this week - she passed recently, and this was Jennifer's first birthday of hers without her - however, as noted there was an unusual bouquet of flowers that appeared on her doorstep that day.

Then Robin Williams stops by, briefly at the end... fans of the podcast, of the books know that he's been showing up for 8 years. Allow me to repeat the story that when he first showed up, he told Jennifer to tell me to "put his chapter back in my book."

I had told no one that the night before I had deleted that chapter - as it was too much about me meeting him, Jonathan Winters, than it was about him. As ordered, I put it back into the book HACKING THE AFTERLIFE. My wife Sherry was in a class where the teacher had written down "Elvis" as the name of the person they wanted to see if the class could do a "remote viewing" and read what was the name on the paper she'd written.

And as reported, Robin showed up doing his Elvis imitation. Funny enough, last night, happened to turn on the TV and the ad for the The Movie Channel has Robin doing that imitation and then there's a clip of Elvis doing the same thing. (Check it out.) 

Anyways, another mind bending podcast that will have to last us two weeks until Jennifer returns.

Meanwhile, catch you on the flipside!  Our podcast HACKING THE AFTERLIFE on quora has had 52 million views. Join the conversation.

Another mind bending foray into the flipside.

 As noted in this podcast, we don't come prepped or ready to speak to anyone, unless something odd has happened.

In this case, Jennifer had asked for help from her great grandfather a few days ago - and really didn't  know anything beyond his name.

And like I do with all of my research, I do look this stuff up. As it turns out the Civil War veteran who showed up actually was a Civil War veteran. To demonstrate how mediums have to "translate the information" they're seeing - I asked this guy if he served in the Civil War, because in response to "when were you alive?" she said "It seems like there was a lot of war."

And to see this guy's record during the Civil War (searching his name and "Civil War") it turns out he fought in many battles. The reason she saw him in the medical tent is because he was wounded after Bull Run, and later got dysentery - which put him in a hospital tent until they discharged him.  So he was there a long time before he was let out to return to his family.

He married Fannie who worked for the Queen of England. He had children during the war, died in 1912 (she saw 1902). He was 73 when he passed. 

This is an example of me asking simple questions to someone who has shown up - and he gives her visuals that I try to interpret. 

Then Tom Petty showed up to introduce his pal Ric Ocasek. I didn't know him, didn't review his shows when I wrote music reviews for Variety, but asked him some simple questions based on what I knew about him.  I remember meeting his wife - then girlfriend backstage at the Merv Griffin show around the time they met.

I just happened to notice that yesterday, there was an article online about how he and his wife had split up before he passed, but Paulina missed him terribly.  Unfortunately, he appears to have been less that fatherly to two of his sons, and reading this interview, will likely continue to be mad at him. If I had known how angry they are at him (for disowning them) I would have asked questions about that. If he shows up again, I will.

Again - as noted, we speak to whomever shows up. We ask questions and see what we can learn. The bulk of this podcast is about how to ask loved ones to appear in dreams, or show up to assist us.  Hope this helps.

Jennifer and I have been doing this work for the past six years.

Every week, clockwork, we meet up and chat with people on the flipside.  We've gotten to a point where I can understand the metaphor of what she's seeing or saying.

In terms of the process, it's pretty much stayed the same. Since the first time we met, and someone "showed up" during our conversation, I wondered if this was a "one time thing" or if it was something that could be repeated.

Three books later, "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" possibly 300 interviews we have pretty much honed what we're doing into a half hour to 45 minute podcast. Jennifer and I, with the help of my friend Luana Anders, who left the planet in 1996, we have a chat with people on the flipside about process.

Luana appears to be a conduit on the flipside to help others communicate here. Because she was an actor and worked in over 300 TV shows and over 30 feature films, she knows quite a few people in that industry, and they often stop by to say hello, or to pass along messages to loved ones.

That being said, we've had people show up that weren't invited by her, invited by someone else in the class, and they show up to voice their concerns. Last week's podcast, Anthony Bourdain had much to say about a documentary about him that just came out.  Not planned, didn't ask for him to stop by - but he was adamant about being heard.

A few weeks back, Carl Laemmle, a film producer who passed in 1939 showed up - wanted to talk about the process of what goes on over on the flipside.

In today's podcast, Luana wanted to talk about the process of communication. Helping people on this side to "clear the deck" find a place of "peace" and open up their hearts (and check their disbeliefs) to allow loved ones to come through.

All I can say is that everything she's saying in this podcast is reflected in the research - the thousands of clinical case studies I've looked at from various doctors (Wambach, Weiss) from Michael Newton and the Newton Institute, from the 100 sessions I've filmed.  

Jennifer has done thousands of readings, works with law enforcement agencies nationwide on missing person cases - I already know how talented she is, and we're lucky to access this method.  

Enjoy.

Another unusual podcast.

As we've noted in the past, it's rare that people show up to insist on being interviewed.  In this case, it was someone we'd interviewed in the past, in fact a year ago, July 17th, 2020 Anthony Bourdain and Robin Williams stopped by on a podcast named "Exiting Early." (Anthony and Robin appear in the books "Backstage Pass to the Flipside," both interviewed extensively.)

But in this case, Anthony wanted to weigh in on the film about his life, called "Roadrunner." 

He says he was disappointed in it, that the filmmaker "didn't have a clue" as to what happened to him - how he himself didn't have a plan to exit early, and it had nothing whatsoever to do with his relationship with Asia Argento.

He pointed out that he thought the AI of his voice sounded "robotic" (neither I nor Jennifer have seen the film) and the ending, having an artist deface a mural on camera for the film was "shitty."  Again - I haven't seen it, but I took the time to ask him about it. He also called the filmmaker "amateur" but gave the film a "five" out of ten because at the very least, it had footage that he'd shot in it.

I'm a filmmaker myself, member of the DGA/WGA. I was so stung by Ebert's "thumbs way down" review of my film "Limit Up" at the time, when Luana Anders was still on the planet (cowriter of the script) when I asked her to read the review, but to edit out the negativity... over the phone she read "Richard Martini... directed Limit Up."  Took me a year to read the negative review.

So it gives me no pleasure to tee off on this filmmaker - even though I was a music critic at Variety for years, I always tended to give people the benefit of the musical doubt.  If I doubted they're rehearsed, I noted it. In this case, Anthony came forward to tee off on this filmmaker. Wasn't my idea. 

I tried to ask him cogent questions - and to fill in the blanks. "Why no note left behind?" He answers that eloquently. He talks about how to meditate to help set aside negativity. He talks about finding beauty in gratitude.

As I note in the podcast, if you're going to make a film about someone, take the time to see if it's possible to communicate with them. Ask their loved ones if they've had dreams, find three different mediums and ask the same questions (as I do in "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia) take the time and effort to allow the possibility that they might have an opinion on their own story.

I can only report. The only editing in this podcast is done for time if there's a long space between me asking a question and Jennifer getting an answer. . Apologies for having to end it early - Charles Grodin, Prince and Robert Downey Sr. ("Greaser's Palace") all make appearances and report things I've never considered or could have heard of.

I asked about Robert senior because Luana knew him, he directed her in the film "Greaser's Palace" which is on cable, and ran this week in Santa Monica.

Robert Sr. says that his son is already "speaking to him" and the father says he's learning from his son, as well as being proud of him.  Prince reminds us that strings tuned too tightly tend to break, a metaphor about finding a "middle way" between not listening to loved ones, and finding a way to "tighten up the string" to allow them to communicate to us by tuning into them.

The film cited in this podcast is "Hacking the Afterlife" - it's available on Amazon Prime through Gaia. If you have Amazon Prime it's a small five dollar charge to watch it.  It represents ten years of research, and notes the science behind the flipside.

Again - I didn't ask for Anthony to come forward, Jennifer did not either, and he had a mouthful to say about his opinion about this film Roadrunner about his life.  I don't think he's saying "don't watch it" but he is saying "don't buy the conclusions about who he was, as this filmmaker didn't have a clue."

Ask Anthony on one's own. If you knew him, you love him, or even liked him - set the stage for a meditation where he sits across from you and answers questions. An obvious first question would be "So Anthony,  how accurate was this podcast I just heard?"  Enjoy.

This is a wee bit shorter than the other podcasts, partially because we weren't able to get all three of us on camera at the same time, but we invited a friend whose dog passed away over 30 years ago.

 Fans of our books "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" will recognize who this person is, but for now, he's my old boss Robert. Robert had a Hungarian sheepdog who had a heritage. I met his sister at some point, but for three years of my post film school life, I walked this dog around the Warner Bros lot.

Hira was not a dog you "walked." He walked you. He wouldn't leave Robert's office unless Robert was busy, he would finally deign to go outside with me, but walked, ran, wherever he wanted to.  He tolerated my presence behind him - and when he went to do his business, it was long before the days of scoopers and plastic bags.  (Thankfully I missed that era).

But for some reason, Hira would go straight to the head of the studio's office and leave a large memory of himself piled up outside his door. I didn't know it was Frank Well's office, but apparently Hira did. And his secretary would call me and say "I saw you!" And I'd say "You saw me what?" She'd say "You let that dog come over here and soil my boss's front porch!"

And I'd say - "Ma'am I'm sorry. I don't walk that dog. He allows me to accompany him outside. I have no power over where he goes."  I was with him his last days on the planet, and I can attest to everything that is said in this session, and learn new information from him.

That's the point of this podcast - I heard and learned new information from an animal that is no longer on the planet, but revealed details live on camera that I didn't know, that Jennifer could not have known, that are not public record, that aren't possible for others to know - except the person who owned him.

This podcast is for all the animal lovers who have reached out to ask me about pets in the afterlife, or animals on the flipside.  I ask the question directly and he answers it.

Mind bending.

Another unusual podcast. 

We  begin with a discussion of Jennifer's birthday (Happy Birthday Jennifer!) and her dad stops by to say a few words.  Discussion leads into my recent hip operation and all of the unusual experiences with the #11 that particular day - including a dream my wife had  where Luana reminded her of a previous dream ("Picture 11:11, we meet at the decimals") and she had the experience of hearing information from her about the upcoming operation.

Aside from the fact  that I was in room 11, the surgeon did 11 surgeries that day, my wife picked up the medication and noticed the clock was 11:11 - the discussion became a general one about "How do you guys do that?"

Towards the end of the podcast, Luana wanted to talk about getting vaccinated and the Delta variant. As noted, Luana was a homeopath, knew home medicine, and treated herself for illnesses her entire life - but had a tremendous fear of doctors, based on the cancer treatments her parents went through. 

So we spent months in clinics in Mexico where she'd bounce back  for weeks, sometimes months... but for her to come  forward and recommend that "If it's possible to take the vaccine, take the vaccine" was unusual.

Again, there's no political agenda, we didn't ask her opinion on it, clearly Jennifer was reluctant to "go there" but we did.  And I got her to repeat it; "If you can get the vaccine, get the vaccine."  Meaning, if you don't have an underlying condition that will prevent you from getting it, or a doctor's advice is against it - if you "can get it" then you should get it. (Pfizer, Moderna, or J and J).  

This isn't coming from me, but from someone we love on the flipside.  Any complains must be directed to Luana. (Kidding, not kidding.)

Another unplanned visit from someone everyone knew as Elvis Aaron Presley from Tupelo Mississippi.

 I must admit I was never a fan until he started showing up in our class. And then I spent the time to listen to his earlier rockabilly tunes, and grew to appreciate what he'd done with his talent.

To be clear Jennifer and I don't discuss in advance who we're going to speak to, and Luana Anders our trusted moderator is in charge of who gets on her clipboard and into the class.

As noted, a couple of weeks ago it was film producer Carl Laemmle, someone I knew very little about, but had much to say about the journey in the afterlife.

In this episode Elvis wanted to talk about process - the process of how we bring a portion of our conscious energy to a lifetime, and that is never lost, or goes away. He references someone Jennifer and I have no idea - a young girl that met him when he crossed over, but he wanted to speak about that process, and how knowing a bit of it in advance "would have helped him."

Also the topic of chanting and praying aloud comes into play - for those who are religious, consider this a message from heaven, for those more science oriented consider this a "conversation with one's subconscious about how to heal or cure depression."

We've heard it often, that meditation can help heal or cure a person, and meditating on music is also a way to do the same. In this instance, the concept is to "listen to music that elevates your spirit or "heals the heart."

To be clear, I asked if this concept was a religious or a science one - and the answer was that it was literally the fact that one can "heal or help one's health by connecting to, dancing to, swaying to, listening to their favorite singer, to connect with the memory of them, to connect with the heart of them, to connect with the healing light of the universe by listening.

This isn't a new topic nor is it fantastical.  Set aside the idea of who the conversation is with and focus on the content of the conversation and it becomes clear why it's important to know that life goes on, and that we can connect with loved ones on the flipside.  

By the way: the film “Hacking the Afterlife” is available on  Gaia.com Jennifer is at JenniferShaffer.com I’m at RichMartini.com HackingTheAfterlife.com is our podcast MartiniZone.com is our youtube channel This version of “Route 66” is on “Rich Martini on the Rocks” at Amazon or CDbaby.com

Another one of those mind bending sessions. 

Having spent the past five years chatting with Jennifer on a weekly basis, only starting to film about a year ago, we have 65 podcasts of us chatting with people on the flipside.

We have three books of interviews "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" where we discuss how we met, the process we use, and the many verifications that have occurred on camera in her office, in restaurants.  In this case, one can search through these podcasts to hear other verificiations.

Each week we "enter our classroom" where people are standing by waiting to chat with us. The books were named because Tom Petty described the process of "getting onto the clipboard of Luana the way someone might try to get a VIP pass to backstage at a concert."  My friend of 20 years, who passed in 1996, starting showing up to me and to family members over the years.

Then when I met Jennifer Luana started showing up weekly - that is helping us to access people on the flipside, and vice versa. On the flipside they describe her participation as "showing how it's done."  In the six years of doing this, I've often "asked for people to come forward" - and most of the time Jennifer tells me who it is that I've asked for - said their name aloud prior to a session - in one to three tries.  

Sometimes it takes longer - because again, they're putting images in her head that lead her to say something. So for example, if someone shows up named "Fred" - she might see her husband Fred. And then from there I ask questions about the identify of whomever shows up.

This was one of those examples.  She said "somewhere is here that wants to speak to us, but neither of us would know him."  So it took me the time it took me to figure out who that might be.

Carl Laemmle was a prolific film producer in the 1920s and 30's. He dies at the age of 72 in 1939, making such hit films as "The Hunchback of Notre Dame," "Phantom of the Opera" "Dracula" and "Frankenstein."  I was not aware of the films he made - but doing this research after the podcast, I realize last night while watching "Singing in the Rain" with their parody of the first sound films, I noted to my wife that if one watches "Dracula" (1931) carefully, the actors move over to where a microphone is hidden in a plant or a lamp or somewhere in the room to pick up the sound.  In the film "Singing in the Rain" they had a character with a German accent playing the role of the film director beside himself with fury about planting the microphones on set - and I realize as I write this sentence it was likely a parody of Germans like Carl who emigrated in the 1880's.

Everything I report is accurate - in that it was Carl who suggested that Amelia Earhart star in a film about herself, and how she and Mary Pickford wrote a screenplay together, excerpted in George Putnam's posthumous biography of his missing wife.

Fans of "Hacking the Afterlife" know that we interviewed Amelia extensively and that I've spent 30 years gathering eyewitness reports that claim she was captured, and died in Saipan. (EarhartOnSaipan.com is a webpage filled with details of that sage).  But in this instance, it was Amelia who brought Carl in - and he wanted to "give it a shot" and be interviewed by us.

After my incredulousness wore off (not about the fact he was there, but why he showed up) I asked him to describe what he's up to, and his reply is unlike any we've heard before.  We have heard people can "learn to cook" but his specificity of Indian ovens (ie. tandoor ovens) for specific dishes is accurate but not something Jennifer is aware of.  His description of various salts (Moroccan!) is also accurate, having traveled around the world I know there's more than Morton Salt to be tasted.  That was quite specific.

But then Prince showed up - and as fans of our work know, he's been showing up since he crossed over, interviews are in "Hacking the Afterlife" and a number of times in "Backstage Pass to the Flipside." I'm aware that the vast majority of listeners would turn off the podcast around this moment, but they'd miss him bringing Ludwig and Vincent forward to talk about art and how those frequencies affect their continued work.

We tend to think in human centric terms (how could we not?) about time, about fame, about all of those things that don't mean much on the flipside. The idea that Carl could come forward 80 some years after his passing, and carry on a conversation as if he was aware of everything that's been said since is mind bending.  The idea that Ludwig might be considered 250 years old - but what she had to say about his digestive issues is accurate - and at one point mentions his "blindness" ... because she's not aware that he was going to come to class today, or not really up on his story.

I literally did finish reading a biography about him this morning, and am in awe of his talent and output as an artist - but I wanted to dig into something that bothered me, his behavior towards his sister and law and her son is considered beyond the pale - while working on Missa Solemnis and the 7th, 8th and 9th symphonies.  Like the sand in an oyster that turns into great pearls, it was the sacrifice his sister and law Johanna and nephew Frank put up with so that he could create the kind of art that he did.

Vincent mentions a "savage animal" attacking his ear - that could be a metaphor for the "man in the mirror," "some bar fight gone wrong," or literally an animal attacking him - I don't know. It doesn't really matter, because as he put it "I won. I'm the most valued artist of us all."  Funny way to put it - but accurate.

This podcast may offend a few, may startle a few, but Jennifer and I show up unprepared, except for the body of work that's preceded when I turn on the camera and record our podcast.

Enjoy.

Another mind bending podcast, this one about music and frequency. 

Luana began by directing us to an event that had occurred earlier in the day, when I went to visit her friend Sally Kellerman (still on the planet.)  We talked about Sally's husband on the flipside, my old friend who produced 3 of my films. My mother, a concert pianist stopped by to refer to a photograph I was working with on my latest book a few days ago.

Then Tom Petty stopped by. As noted before, I have never asked Tom to stop by - each time he does it's related to something that we are discussing. In this case, it was the energy of music or how frequency works on the flipside.

As noted in the podcast, he asked us to reach out to someone whom I did reach out to - who said "I wish that I could speak to Tom, but I don't  believe you are speaking to him."  Not everyone is open to the possibility that our loved ones still exist - and further, it can be annoying when a complete stranger says "Hey, I was talking to your pal the other day."

But we have to allow for the possibility that they're outside of time and space and can reach out to us. In this case, I wanted to know some details about music on the other side - not his personal journey, or who he is hanging out with, but specifically what frequency is, what music is, and how we download it. His answers are unusual and profound.

Again, Jennifer and I have been doing this for over five years. We have on numerous occasions learned new information from folks on the flipside, information that cannot be cryptomnesia or something either one of us dreamed, heard or made up.

But I have to note that not everyone is supposed to embrace the idea of "knowing how the play ends before it does."  So one does not have to "believe" that Jennifer and I are speaking to a specific individual, but it helps if one is "open to the possibility" that some form of communication continues on, and those closest to their loved ones can take the time or make the effort to chat with them one on one.

As he noted, this is only about the 3rd time he's shown up, when we have quoted, cited, or otherwise let others take the podium - Prince, Robin Williams and others.  I do not have any direct connection with Tom - despite being a music critic for Variety for a number of years, I never reviewed his shows, never met him backstage as I have with many others who have shown up in our class.  I directed Ray Charles in a feature film, so basically anyone that Ray knows could show up at any minute.

We have interviewed a member of the Traveling Wilburys before, so that may be the connection - or to someone else that Luana knows on the flipside that I'm not aware of.  But like everyone else who shows up in our classroom, if Luana has "put them on the list" I assume they're showing up for a reason.

It was Tom who coined the title of our three books; "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" when he noted that "talking to us, getting onto Luana's clipboard was like someone trying to get backstage to the VIP lounge.  If "the name is not on the list" they don't get a chance to speak.

Enjoy. Also, my documentary "Hacking the Afterlife" premieres on Gaia.com on June 21st. Check it out.

NOTE: THERE IS A GLITCH IN THIS VERSION - AN INTERRUPTION WHERE I STOPPED AN STARTED THE PODCAST (COUNTING DOWN AND SAYING "I'LL CUT THIS LATER") I DID CUT IT LATER, AND THE SAME PODCAST WITHOUT THE EDIT IS POSTED AFTER THIS - APOLOGIES FOR THE GLITCH, BUT DELETING THE ENTIRE EPISODE MIGHT SCREW UP THE LISTING. SO CLICK ON THE SAME NAME LATER DATE)\

Part two of our interview with Charles Grodin, but a week later. 

It starts off with a visit from my Italian grandmother, who answers a couple of questions - I include this because it's a way to demonstrate how people can access loved ones.

Then we interview Charles Grodin again, with some questions about process and clarification. There's a brief discussion with Robert Towne's dog Hira, and a comment about something Chuck mentioned to his friend Paul.  I can report that Paul has responded to what Chuck said about him, offering "Chuck’s words have an absolute connection to what I am doing. Rather astounding if true! Thank you."

The point is that people on the flipside can say private message to their loved ones that won't make much sense to anyone else but them. I'm glad to be able to pass the message along from one old friend to another.

This is an homage to Charles Grodin.

Having known him for 40 years, I know pretty well what his references are, what he's saying or revealing. In this podcast, one could say it's a culmination of 40 years of knowing him, ten years of filming people accessing the afterlife, and five years of filming sessions with Jennifer Shaffer weekly.

It's also our 10,000th download - we have 60 podcasts so far. Jennifer notes that she didn't know Charles outside of the fact that we were friends, she never saw him interviewed, knew nothing about his life, other than seeing him in "Heaven Can Wait." At the end of this podcast, when I refer to "Midnight Run" I forgot that she had not seen the film. I recommend sticking around to the end to hear what he has to say about it. It was an honor to be able to do this on his behalf. It was an honor to know him for 40 years. As I wrote on Facebook about him: Godfather to our kids. The most loyal friend I've ever met or could have the good fortune to have met.

A mentor who was instrumental in my life and journey - tears are not enough to shed, the loss of someone so funny, witty, charming, compassionate - he embodied so much more than anyone knows or has heard about him, or could have known about him. Sherry, the kids and I heard that he passed peacefully this morning, that it was a transition of beauty and grace - and no doubt in my mind he's going to be as entertaining, fun, delightful and charming on the flipside as he was on this side.

My wife pointed out that when Jennifer mentions "Hairspray" after mentioning Warren Beatty, is a reference to his film "Shampoo." What's funny about that reference is that Robert Towne (the writer of Shampoo with Warren) wrote the movie about Chuck's friend Luana (who was dating a hairdresser Richard Alcala) and that Jack Warden, star of that film and also in Heaven Can Wait was a close friend of Chuck's - and an original member of the "Fun Patrol." (Harper Simon, myself and Chuck were the other three members.) Someone you can call day or night and get a laugh from.

We are bereft that he's left the building, if one could add up all the laughs, all the joy, all the fun events this person brought to our world - it would take up too many memorials. The folks who knew him and loved him will miss him the most - the folks who saw him or laughed along at his films and work will talk about him for a long time, every time he appears on camera now and into the future will be another reminder of his unique light. Here's to you Chuck. Charles Grodin. From Pittsburgh. We love you.

We will always love you. And we hope you can swing by sometime to let us know how you're doing. More tributes to come, and when the spark hits, will share some of his wit and wisdom when it comes to mind. Sail on maestro. More seas to explore and conquer. "

All photos and content are used a part of the "Fair Use" idea in copyright law that allows for using a clip to illustrate a point. All original rights are retained by the copyright holders. No endorsements are implied or trying to be made. This interview is based on 5 years of working with Jennifer Shaffer who works with law enforcement agencies nationwide on missing cases pro bono, on ten years of filming people accessing the afterlife with or without hypnosis (100 to date) and the thousands of clinical case studies from Dr. Wambach, Dr. Weiss, Michael Newton and the Newton Institute, and the 100 cases I've filmed (50 without hypnosis.)

For further info, see "Flipside" or "Talking to Bill Paxton" on Gaia or Amazon Prime, see books "Flipside" "It's a Wonderful Afterlife (with a forward by Charles) "Hacking the Afterlife" and "Architecture of the Afterlife" or Jennifer Shaffer's and my three books "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" 1, 2 and 3. The new documentary film "Hacking the Afterlife" will be premiering on Gaia and reflects ten years of filmed research.

See you in the next life, Chuck.

Another mind bending episode.  I went up to the Sequoias this past week and got a chance to meet "General Sherman" for the first time. Considered one of the oldest trees in the world, I recorded some footage of talking to people who were accessing the tree in real time, which I will transcribe at a future date and post on medium.

However, Jennifer and I got a chance to do a rare Sunday podcast - and the idea of interviewing a tree has occurred in the podcast before, as well as during guided meditation sessions in the books ARCHITECTURE OF THE AFTERLIFE and DIVINE COUNCILS IN THE AFTERLIFE.

I know it's mind bending to consider - but the idea is that when one "sees a tree" during a hypnotherapy session, or during a near death event, or during an out of body experience, or in a dream - to access that tree, see if the tree will respond to questions.

And then compare the answers.

As noted, this isn't the first time either Jennifer or I have asked questions to what people don't consider to be sentient - there are multiple interviews on this podcast with Hira, Robert Towne's dog on the flipside, with my dog Sam on the Flipside, with other animals and pets, with non incarnating beings, etc.

The latest book CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE FLIPSIDE KIND has numerous examples of interviews with "non incarnated beings" as well as animals on the planet.

So in light of that concept, we asked the tree some questions and got some pretty unusual answers.

All I can say is - if you're ready to consider the possibility then take a listen to this latest podcast.

Another fun podcast - Jennifer and I started off by talking about the process - how she helps law enforcement on a pro bono basis, and will be teaching a class soon in the process (details on her webpage JenniferShaffer.com).

She has two workshops - one that covers how to help law enforcement, and the second is for people who want to be part of the group that does.  I've attended in the past, and it's well worth the effort,  if only to understand the process.

Then we celebrated a bit of Luana's birthday - and she insisted I stop mentioning her age (as she was adamant about forgetting it while she was on the planet.)  Funny how she can still get me to laugh about it, although she's been off planet since 1996.

We asked if she had anyone on her VIP list (hence the title of our 3 books "Backstage Pass to the Flipside" because one of our classmates reported that "she's the one in charge of who gets to speak to us.)

Bill Paxton popped up and dusted himself off as if he'd been waiting to speak up. Funny guy Bill. He knew I had been speaking about him last week, and wanted to throw a curve ball in my recollection of how we met, and what it was like for the both of us back then. 

It was interesting to chat with Bill about golf - I knew he directed a film "The Greatest Game Ever Played" written by Mark Frost, directed by Bill. He mentions two things that I looked up - one is that he played a celebrity tournament and did badly, and the other that he is currently playing with a golfing icon.  In the former, I found that his father John (whom he mentions in this) actually was in a club with the great Ben Hogan, and reportedly Bill met Hogan when he was young.  I think Bill was either referring to Ouimet, the golfer he made a film about, or the late great Ben Hogan (Jennifer describes his outfit.)  It's the kind of detail I didn't know, Jennifer couldn't have known - so she wasn't "reading my mind" - but was answering directly from Billy.

Then, out of nowhere, someone elbowed Bill out of his seat - Bill said it was willingly, but Senator McCain wanted to weigh in on recent political events. And while during the election he took a particularly dim view of the former resident of 1600 PA Ave, his advice this time was to "bind up the nation's wounds" citing Abe Lincoln's ability to do so under more trying circumstances.

I was surprised, but not startled, as certainly he was a man of humor and integrity - and was clearly pointing down the middle of the road for the nation to consider healing. All I can say is it is another unusual podcast, this being our 61st.

It's our 60th podcast.  Yippee.  

 Jennifer was out of town last week, so I was thinking about a couple of people who showed up during previous sessions that we didn't speak to.

She mentioned the "Librarian" (whom I described as Danny DeVito because someone else described him that way in "Architecture of the Afterlife") So I asked if there was a reason he wanted to chat with us.

He implied that he had put it in my mind this past week to ask him some questions - which is often the case. In "Architecture of the Afterlife" he shows up in a session, and in this session I refer to the interview in "It's a Wonderful Afterlife" where a "curmudgeony librarian" who "doesn't look old but has a really old vibe" (who was asked "What are Who is God?"

What makes this so unusual - is that I've met him now through three different people who don't know each other, who couldn't have read about him in any of my books.  And in all three cases, they described the same fellow and in two of the cases, I was invited to speak to him.

So I didn't seek him out - he shows up in "Architecture of the Afterlife" and in a session with Jennifer in "Backstage Pass to the Flipside." When I quote him, even when it's via Jennifer she has no conscious memory of what he said - but she repeats what he said.  Or she refers to what he said to me in a zoom session with someone else entirely (another Jennifer that is in "Architecture.")

So I asked him some questions about the Akashic library.  Interesting answers.

In terms of Marlon, our moderator on the flipside Luana Anders knew many people who knew him (Robert Towne, who wrote that final scene of his in the Godfather, Sam Gilman, Wally Cox, Sally Kellerman and others) - so I have no problem asking him to come forward.  Jennifer doesn't remember that he was hesitant to speak when we did interview him - but in this case, he had shown up to talk about Audrey Hepburn.

But as noted in the previous podcast, Jennifer couldn't think of his name "that actor who plays the Mafia guy who was Al Capone" (clearly not coached as Marlon never played Al) - and two weeks ago, I missed it. But I thought I'd ask him what he wanted to share about her.

In the interim I looked up the fact that he had spent an evening with her and because he was unnerved by her, didn't speak - and she took that to mean he didn't like her. And it's a matter of public record that he wrote to Audrey when he heard that and apologized - public record that Jennifer is not aware of.

Again - not trying to prove anything to anyone - there is no hierarchy on the flipside, it is accurate that his will was found in a chair in Jack Nicholson's house, I've seen it, and I know what happened to it.  She mentions that as well, but it's not common knowledge.

Anyways - a bit all over the map, but not less interesting than the rest. 

This is a session I filmed back in 2017. 

The idea was to create some form of expression where we could discuss the afterlife in real time, and put it somewhere. Pre podcasts.

Now when I view this file, I realize we were doing the same thing we've been doing for the past year.

In this session, my old friend Howard Schultz, the producer of many successful TV shows ("Extreme Makeover") shows up to chat with us about the process of talking to the flipside.

A portion of this clip will be in the new film from Gaia "Hacking the Afterlife."  As one can see, I've been gathering clips for that film for quite some time.

At this point, Jennifer and I had been filming these kinds of conversations for about a year or two. Filming it in her office in Manhattan Beach was a way to demonstrate that we can do it on camera, live - which was a precursor to our podcast.

Jennifer's on vacation this week, so I pulled this rabbit out of the hat.  If I had shown it years ago, it wouldn't make sense, but in light of our podcast, fits right in. Enjoy.