A Super Bowl Sunday preview of our new venture: Grounded with Jon Tester and Maritsa Georgiou. We hope you'll join us for our inaugural episode this week when we talk to Richard Painter, who served as the chief White House ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush administration. If you have questions for us or Richard, you can send them to groundedpcast@gmail.com.

Former U.S. Senator Jon Tester and political journalist Maritsa Georgiou talk with former White House ethics counsel Richard Painter about the legal pushback against executive actions issued by the Trump administration, what could transpire if the White House ignores the judicial branch, and what history teaches us about the system of checks and balances. 

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Former U.S. Senator Jon Tester and political journalist Maritsa Georgiou speak with former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson about confusion over recent firings within the federal government, tariffs, how some legal decisions could backfire on red states, and the outcasting of Republicans who go against President Trump.

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Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) joins Jon Tester and Maritsa Georgiou to discuss her time in Ukraine on the third anniversary of Russia’s invasion along with concerns over what comes next in the war in light of recent comments made by President Donald Trump about Ukraine and the country’s president.

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"When you're not going to follow the law, the first thing you want to do is get rid of the lawyers."

Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee and a former Army paratrooper, joins JT & MG to discuss in simple terms the Pentagon’s Friday night massacre as the Trump administration purged multiple military leaders including Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. CQ Brown Jr. and multiple JAGs.

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Veteran political journalist Jim Acosta joins Jon and Maritsa to reflect on what’s happening with the White House press corps, the fiery Trump/Vance/Zelenskyy exchange in the Oval Office, and what Jim says to people who give him the middle finger at Trump rallies.

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In this week’s episode of Grounded, we hear from former Republican political strategist Steve Schmidt, who now hosts The Warning with Steve Schmidt on Substack. Hear his warning to Americans across all political ideologies, his criticisms of Democrats AND Republicans in Congress, and what he says you should do if your elected representatives aren’t being responsive.

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Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia (and native Montanan) Michael McFaul joins Jon and Maritsa on a special edition of Grounded. The trio discuss what McFaul calls similarities between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin’s ideologies, the history lessons he wants Americans to pay attention to, and what keeps him optimistic about the future. 

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Jon and Maritsa discuss news headlines including a new legal fight over the Trump administration's use of a centuries-old war time law to deport hundreds of Venezuelans alleged to be gang members. The pair also chat about a deal to cut 10,000 USPS employees, cuts to Voice of America, and the Autopen signature you're likely to hear a lot more about.

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Legendary political journalist Sam Donaldson joins Jon and Maritsa to discuss what’s changed since he covered the White House, what he would do if he were still in the briefing room, and the moment in history he says the United States has never fully recovered from.

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Former Sec. of Defense Leon Panetta unpacks SignalGate with JT and MG, including the questions he would ask if he were leading the investigation. The three also discuss foreign policy related to Iran and Greenland, and how Elon Musk’s DOGE cuts compare to the balanced budget Sec. Panetta helped craft when he was the director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Bill Clinton.

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After a wild political week that included a 25+ hour speech on the Senate floor and sweeping new tariffs, former VA Sec. Denis McDonough joins JT & MG to explain the importance of the programs he helped implement, and what's at stake for our veterans with proposed cuts to staff and those very programs.

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It's the economy, stupid! Jon and Maritsa dig into what's happening with tariffs, Wall Street and your finances with former White House economic adviser Jared Bernstein, who also chaired the U.S. Council of Economic Advisers under President Joe Biden. How did the Trump administration come up with this tariff formula? Are we heading for a recession? What should we be doing right now? We ask all of these questions and more!

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Ahead of a scheduled US House vote on the SAVE Act, JT and MG discuss its potential impacts with Greta Bedekovics with the Center for American Progress. What will the SAVE Act mean for voters across the country if it passes through Congress? What impact will it have on married women who took their husband’s last name? How is it different than President Trump’s executive order on elections? We break it all down.

Economic concerns over tariffs and the markets persist and JT and MG chat all about it with University of Michigan economist and public policy professor Justin Wolfers (who sometimes goes by his alter ego Fed Lasso). Hear why he says we’re in the middle of two economic crises and his predictions for what’s ahead. Will prices ever come down? What about accusations of market manipulation in the Oval Office? What does the U.S. stand to win in this trade war? A fascinating conversation you don’t want to miss!

Former Bureau of Land Management director (and Montanan!) Tracy Stone-Manning joins JT and MG to dissect new concerns over threats to public lands. They get into the weeds on the difference between proposals to sell public land for tax breaks and affordable housing solutions. The conversation also covers what DOGE cuts could mean for our great outdoors and what people can do to keep public lands in public hands.

Fresh off his return from El Salvador to visit a Maryland man deported in error, Sen. Chris Van Hollen joins JT & MG to for an inside look at what led up to his meeting, the “margaritas” placed at the table for social media optics, and why he thinks this is a constitutional crisis. CVH and JT explain why every American should care about this case and the precedent it sets.

Sen. Dick Durbin, who announced his retirement last week, joins JT & MG to chat about that decision after more than four decades in Congress, his experience at Pope Francis' funeral, the future of the Democratic party and more. Plus, what he fears will be the “most serious constitutional crisis since the Civil War.”

JT & MG chat with Olivia Troye, who worked as a national security adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence. They unpack the latest Trump interview on Meet the Press, what’s likely happening behind closed doors at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and the reasons she left the Trump 1.0 administration in the summer of 2020. Olivia also tells JT & MG what keeps her up at night and what gives her hope moving forward.

Former Sec. of Agriculture Dan Glickman joins the pod to chat about the effect of tariffs on American farmers and access to food we eat. We also discuss concerns over DOGE cuts within the U.S. Forest Service, bipartisan cooperation, and what Jon Tester really thinks about going to State of the Union addresses.

Is due process in trouble in America? We discuss with Dave Aronberg, a former state attorney in Florida, who also worked alongside current U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi. He tells JT and MG why he believes due process is still intact. He also explains why he doesn’t think AG Bondi will cross what he calls the bright red line. Let’s go to law school! 

“We’re not doomed yet, but we’re running out time that we need.” That’s what former Ambassador John Bolton said to JT & MG in the latest episode of Grounded about our global security risks. We ask what keeps him up at night, the best path forward for unity, President Trump’s relationship with authoritarians and more. He also spills the beans about who he actually voted for in 2024.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz joins JT and MG to talk about what went wrong for the Harris/Walz campaign, the future of the Democratic Party, and the governor’s political plans. What do Democrats need to do to win back rural America and the working class? Is there room for a moderate candidate in today’s political environment? We also make sure to talk about the Minnesota State Fair, Montana breakfast joints, and high school football. An episode you don’t want to miss!

JT & MG talk to journalists Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes who just co-authored their fourth book together about the 2024 presidential campaign cycle. They cover insider perspectives from both the Biden and Trump campaigns, the debate that unleashed a summer of political chaos and what happens now as Democrats try to figure out their path forward in the middle of a Trump 2.0 presidency. 

In the 25th episode of Grounded, fellow Montanan and Pearl Jam co-founder Jeff Ament joins JT and MG to talk politics, music and Big Sandy, Montana. We ask about the viral moment when his bandmate Eddie Vedder defended Bruce Springsteen against attacks from President Trump, the concert poster that landed the Secret Service at his door, and the way his upbringing and college years shaped his viewpoints. Look for bonus music content on our Substack! 

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We tried something new in episode 26 by having a LIVE conversation with Dr. Heather Cox Richardson, America’s favorite historian. We cover the unrest in Los Angeles, the public Elon Musk/Donald Trump feud and the defining moments she thinks will be remembered in future history books. Plus, what keeps her up at night? What gives her hope? How does she decompress? You’ll hear it all on this special extended edition of Grounded.

JT and MG weigh in on the Signal scandal and take up the Trump executive order to dismantle the Department of Education (which officially takes an act of Congress). So now what? Randi Weingarten, the President of the American Teachers Federation, joins Jon and Maritsa to break down what it means for you.

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We had planned to solely chat with former Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn for this episode, but something happened Wednesday night that prompted us to add another guest to the mix. Dunn and JT share some behind the scenes anecdotes about Jan. 6, 2021, and their response to the Trump administration calling the LA protesters insurrectionists. We also talk to Land Tawney with the American Hunters and Anglers Action Network about new language in the Big, Beautiful Bill that would sell off public lands.

Grounded gets spicy with our friend Katie Phang, a former prosecutor, longtime legal analyst and former host of the Katie Phang Show. We chat about Iran, the Tucker Carlson v. Ted Cruz video, the necessary evolution of informative media and why Katie thinks there’s still a measure of respect for the Judicial Branch. If you’ve found yourself thinking you want more profanity from Grounded, this is the episode for you!

Democratic Sen. Elissa Slotkin (who served alongside military in Iraq) of Michigan joins JT and MG to unpack the events that unfolded in Iran over the weekend, where we go from here, ideas for the future of the Democratic Party and her recent spicy exchange with Sec. of Defense Pete Hegseth. Plus, a little love for Detroit and Minnesota.

“I do not understand this adhesive that holds them so tight when they know that things are wrong.”

Former Montana Gov. Marc Racicot (and former chair of the RNC) talks with JT and MG about getting booted from the Montana Republican Party after speaking out against Donald Trump, when he thinks the viciousness in politics took a hard turn, and his continued efforts to speak out and be engaged.

Plus, JT and MG break down new rulings by the Senate parliamentarian that reject a section of the GOP budget bill that would have mandated the sale of public lands. 

Veteran journalist Terry Moran joins Grounded to talk about life after his departure from ABC News. We chat about what he’s seeing on the ground in Springfield, Ohio— home to a large population of Haitian immigrants trying to figure out what’s next since the Trump administration revoked their temporary protected status. Where do they go from here? How can the rest of us help? Plus, Moran takes us inside his notable (and at times combative) interview with President Trump and the massive pivot his life took after a late night post on social media. 

An episode dedicated to the Citizens United decision of 2010 and its impacts on the way our political system works today. It’s estimated the campaign spending in former Sen. Tester’s most recent 2024 race neared $300 million, a huge departure from the $27.5 million spent during his first Senate race in 2006. We talk with the president of End Citizens United, an organization founded in 2015 that aims to reform campaign finance in the United States. We dig into the decision itself, the effects on today's campaigns and what people can do to demand more transparency in political spending. 

As the Senate participates in a “vote-a-rama,” we unpack what’s happening with former Sec. of Transportation Pete Buttigieg, including his top three issues with the “Big, Beautiful Bill.” How does Mayor Pete stay engaged AND grounded? Plus, the announcement from Sen. Thom Tillis that he’s not running for reelection, air travel concerns and the 2028 race for the White House. PB & J(T) weigh in!

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