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| David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration | 29 Jan 2026 | 00:53:17 | |
What Can Christians Do and Will It Work?
In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Curtis Chang and David French name what's happening to American democracy right now: "Dual State America," where life feels normal—until the Trump administration's lawless prerogative power snaps into place. From the Renee Good case to Orwellian spin and rising political violence, they trace how authoritarianism spreads by redefining reality and daring ordinary people not to resist. French's gut-check: stop waiting for someone else to save the country—do something your grandkids will recognize as courage.
02:40 - What Is The "Dual State"? 06:25 - What Does The Renee Good Shooting Show Us? 11:03 - Potential For Resistance and Change 15:32 - The Dangers of Rotating Elected Authoritarians 20:03 - The "Gradually, Then Suddenly" Collapse 24:30 - What Can Individuals Do? 35:31 - The Risk and Uncertainty of Action 37:10 - Embracing Faithfulness Over Effectiveness 47:27 - Christians and The Integrity of Words 47:58 - What Sustains David French?
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| The Vanishing Church and Why It's Hurting American Democracy with Ryan Burge | 22 Jan 2026 | 00:56:05 | |
The Rise of the "Nones" and the Politics Driving People Out of Church
In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Ryan Burge joins Curtis Chang to explore The Vanishing Church and the decline of moderate American congregations, using hard data and his lived experience as a longtime pastor, political scientist, and statistician. Ryan and Curtis explore how evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics, and the religious "nones" are changing—and what that means for polarization, social cohesion, and democracy in America. Burge offers a practical challenge for the lonely or spiritually curious—show up to church even if you don't believe—and makes a case for gratitude and community in an anxious age.
06:25 - Evangelicals: Political Shift and Homogeneity 13:59 - Mainline Protestants: Decline and Diversity 19:06 - Aging and Future of Mainline Churches 23:05 - American Catholics: Stability and Rightward Shift 28:31 - Priest Shortages and Cultural Challenges 30:36 - The Rise of the Nones 31:25 - Political Drivers of Religious Disaffiliation 40:17 - Polarization: Politics and Economics 47:54 - Addressing Polarization: Individual Responsibility 50:23 - Advice for Pastors: Preaching Beyond Politics 52:31 - Signs of Hope and Gratitude
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| Andy Crouch on True Rest vs. Leisure: How Sabbath Breaks the Idols of Work and Technology | 27 Nov 2025 | 00:48:32 | |
Can Sabbath Rest Be a Circuit Breaker for Idolatry?
Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith podcast regular Andy Crouch explore how practicing true Sabbath rest can help Christians break free from burnout, technology overload, and the constant pressure to produce. Andy explains the biblical vision of Sabbath, the difference between rest and leisure, and why so many people feel enslaved to email, phones, and digital noise. They offer practical tools for burnout recovery, Sabbath rest practices, and Christian digital detox, helping listeners rediscover rhythms of rest, contemplation, and spiritual formation. If you're searching for guidance on how to practice Sabbath, how to disconnect from technology, or how to recover from burnout as a Christian, this conversation with Andy Crouch provides a hopeful path to real rest.
(02:24) - The Value of Rest Modeled in Creation (13:04) - The Cycle of Rest, Contemplation, & Creation in Modern Work (21:31) - Is Ceasing Labor Different Than Resting From It? (28:49) - Breaking Free from the Labor Involved in Leisure (32:18) - True Rest Requires Spiritual Practices (37:44) - How Can We Rediscovering Sabbath Rest Together?
Drawing from a previous conversation with Andy Crouch, this episode examines how Sabbath rest revitalizes the inner life.
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| Learning to Disagree (with John Inazu) | 25 May 2024 | 00:47:34 | |
Host Curtis Chang and Washington University professor of law & religion John Inazu explore principles that can teach us to cultivate greater empathy and respect for the differences we encounter in our daily lives. If you feel like you always have to be right, their conversation offers practical insights and stories that reveal how legal frameworks and Christian principles can inspire more compassionate interactions in a world brimming with diverse thoughts. Bring The After Party course to your church or small group!
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| The Hidden Costs of Youth Sports (with David French) | 18 May 2024 | 00:51:35 | |
Curtis Chang and David French delve into the multifaceted impact of youth sports culture on both parents and children. They explore how it demands our time, influences our social status, can strain our finances, and even affects our spiritual well-being. Listen as they uncover the hidden costs of turning what used to be play into a semi-professional lifestyle and discuss practical steps we can take to reclaim balance and well-being for our families.
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| Dementia: Living in the Memories of God (with John Swinton) | 11 May 2024 | 00:54:41 | |
Host Curtis Chang engages in a profound and moving conversation with distinguished professor, pastor, and champion of Christian healthcare, John Swinton. Together, they delve into the theology of dementia care, exploring the spiritual dimensions of how God treasures all of His created beings, regardless of their cognitive abilities. Professor Swinton sheds light on the sacred act of caring for those afflicted with dementia and points listeners to the profound truth that God remembers His people, even when their remembrances of this life and His love wane.
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| How Music Makers Help Us Make Sense of God's World (with Sandra McCracken) | 04 May 2024 | 01:00:41 | |
Host Curtis Chang explores the intersection of faith, music, and biblical harmony with acclaimed singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken in a conversation focusing on the craft of scripture-soaked songwriting. While discussing the influences that have shaped Sandra's art, they unravel the importance of music in our daily lives and worship routines. The pair also share insights from a recent collaboration between the Porter's Gate and Redeeming Babel that produced a new batch of songs that fosters unity amidst today's political divisions.
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Music mentioned in the episode:
Psalms (album) by Sandra McCracken
We Will Feast In The House of Zion by Sandra McCracken
Trinity Song by Sandra McCracken
Fool's Gold by Sandra McCracken
Song For Rachel by Sandra McCracken
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| Good Faith Classic: Recovering Our Storytelling Superpower (with Nancy French) | 27 Apr 2024 | 00:56:23 | |
We can't get enough of our friend Nancy French! Her debut memoir, "Ghosted: An American Story," is available now. That's why we decided to revisit host Curtis Chang's journey into the realm of storytelling with Nancy as his guide. By embracing the narratives of our lives and recognizing the divine Author behind our individual stories, the duo urges listeners to explore family histories and origin tales to gain deeper insight into their journeys. Trust us, if you haven't listened to this episode yet, you're missing out on a classic!
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| Ghosted: An American Story (with Nancy French) | 20 Apr 2024 | 00:51:19 | |
Host Curtis Chang sits down for a gripping conversation with author and frequent Good Faith guest Nancy French to discuss her compelling new memoir "Ghosted: An American Story." Nancy opens up about wrestling with dark family and church secrets, shedding light on the complexities of transracial adoption and the challenges of losing one's community. She explores the power of being truly known and finding resilience in an unexpected romance that would also show her the enduring hope found in the cross of Jesus.
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RESOURCES: Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment
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| How to Listen to Music (with Andy Crouch) | 13 Apr 2024 | 01:07:00 | |
From Luke Combs and Tracy Chapman to Johann Sebastian Bach, host Curtis Chang engages in a captivating conversation with Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch about the profound significance of music in our everyday existence. Through insightful anecdotes and reflections, they explore how to actively listen to music and let it transcend mere entertainment to become a powerful conduit for meaning, expression, and even spiritual meditation. Join them as they harmonize on the transformative role of music and its timeless resonance in the human experience.
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MUSIC REFERENCED: Olivier Messiaen: Quartet for the End of Time V: Praise to the Eternity of Jesus
Johann Sebastian Bach: The St Matthew Passion
Dianne Reeves & The Berlin Philharmonic (feat. Martin Stegner on Viola): "A Foggy Day"
Luke Combs & Tracy Chapman: "Fast Car" at the 2024 Grammys
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| The After Party Edition: The Bible and The Ballot (with Kaitlyn Schiess) | 06 Apr 2024 | 00:58:13 | |
Host Curtis Chang sits down with Kaitlyn Schiess, author of the thought-provoking book, "The Bible and The Ballot." Delving into the intersection of faith and politics, this conversation offers a compelling analysis of how Christians can use or abuse scripture to influence civic engagement and public policy. Drawing from her extensive research and personal experiences, Schiess discusses how Christian traditions can interpret scripture and apply its teachings more faithfully to contemporary political engagement. Pre-order The After Party Book by Curtis Chang & Nancy French
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| The Good Faith Podcast/The After Party Edition: What Democrats Fail to Get About Christians and Why It Matters (with David French) | 30 Mar 2024 | 01:00:41 | |
Host Curtis Chang and "founding friend" David French engage in a thought-provoking discussion about the relationship between Democrats and Republican Evangelicals. With a nuanced exploration into topics like the "God Gap," they shed light on why Democrats frequently fail to grasp the perspectives and values of Evangelicals. Also in this episode, David and Curtis address the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas and explain whether or not their views on the conflict have changed amidst the widening devastation.
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| The Good Faith Podcast/The After Party Edition: Why 2024 is not "deja vu all over again" (with Russell Moore) | 23 Mar 2024 | 00:55:36 | |
In this thought-provoking episode, public theologian and The After Party partner Russell Moore explores the need for pastors to equip themselves and their congregations for the distinctive challenges of a presidential election featuring repeat candidates and all new potential for national drama. Russell and Curtis also offer valuable insights into the role of faith communities in fostering both political discernment and public witness as they answer questions from pastors and church leaders.
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Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America (available on Amazon)
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| Kathleen Norris: A Sister's Reflection on Faith, Disability, and Love | 20 Nov 2025 | 00:41:19 | |
How Does Kathleen Norris Show Disability Shaping Love, Lament, and Christian Faith?
Bestselling writer Kathleen Norris joins host Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to talk about her new book, Rebecca Sue: A Sister's Reflections on Disability, Faith and Love. They share the story of Kathleen's disabled sister, Rebecca, and how her journey through perinatal hypoxia, bipolar disorder, anger, and finally gratitude reshaped their family's faith. This episode offers honest wisdom on caregiving, grief, and aging parents and siblings, plus ideas for making sense of a loved one's disability through letters and reflection. Curtis and Kathleen also explore how churches can better include people with disabilities who are "hidden in plain sight," and why love, lament, and telling the truth about our flaws are central to a life of faith.
(01:49) - What did disability mean in the Norris family? (04:00) - Discovering Disability (08:52) - The Connection Between Love and Lament (16:24) - Lessons Learned Caring For a Dying Husband (20:09) - The Complicated Journey Caregiving and Dying (29:00) - Admiring a Father's Determination (31:36) - Championing Disability Rights (37:27) - Tackling Disability Awareness in Community (41:56) - Are There Connections Between This Story and Norris' Other Books?
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| The Good Faith Podcast/The After Party Edition: The Spiritual Discipline of Politics (with Michael Wear) | 16 Mar 2024 | 00:51:42 | |
We tend to think of spiritual disciplines as taking us out of the world: privatized quiet times, sequestered retreats, individual Bible reading, and such. We especially disconnect spiritual disciplines from the very public world of politics. Michael Wear joins Curtis to challenge this disconnection. Together they explore how spiritual disciplines can form us for healthier politics, and also how politics can form our spiritual lives.
The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life (by Michael Wear)
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The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life In God (by Dallas Willard)
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| The Good Faith Podcast/The After Party Edition: Anxiety and Politics | 09 Mar 2024 | 00:47:45 | |
In this first episode in a series on faith and political engagement, we delve into the intersection of anxiety and politics, as Christians navigate the mounting tension of the 2024 election cycle. In an interview conducted by DT Slouffman, Redeeming Babel's Director of Content, Curtis shares insightful perspectives on how faith can helpfully form our emotional, relational, and church life. If you're wondering how to navigate the coming months with both hope and humility, this episode is for you!
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| How to cultivate the inner life we need to face a chaotic world (with Alison Cook) | 02 Mar 2024 | 00:57:09 | |
Our outer world – our politics, our society, our organizations, even our local community and families – can be enormously complex and even chaotic at times. How do we make sense of all that happens around us? Author and therapist Alison Cook joins Curtis to explore a key strategy: exploring our inner world. They discuss why grasping our inner complexity is critical to properly understanding our external world. This rich discussion covers the theological reasons for this process, as well as many practical steps on how to get started in this inner journey.
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Free guided meditation (+ 2 other IFS themed resources)
Article: 7 Ways to Increase Your Support Network and Why It Matters
Podcast Episode: Episode 71: All About Therapy—Do I Need a Therapist, How Do I Find One, and What Type of Therapy Works Best?
New book: I Shouldn't Feel This Way
Boundaries for Your Soul podcast series
Curtis Chang on The Best of You Podcast
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| How we talk about cancer (with Nancy French) | 24 Feb 2024 | 01:00:35 | |
40% of all Americans will receive a diagnosis of cancer in their lifetime and practically every adult will know someone who already has. How do we talk about this reality? Nancy French, who recently was diagnosed with an aggressive type of breast cancer, joins Curtis to talk about how we talk. In a wide ranging, vulnerable, and candid conversation, Nancy shares about topics like why she doesn't personally find the "fight cancer" language helpful (even if it might be helpful for others); why people are uncomfortable talking about serious illness; how cancer can be both a horrible and beautiful experience at the same time; and more gems.
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Illness as Metaphor by Susan Sontag
Why "war on cancer" metaphors may actually harm health (USC Study)
The Anxiety Opportunity by Curtis Chang
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| Escaping the media echo chamber (with David French) | 17 Feb 2024 | 00:55:07 | |
Repeated studies show that the current media landscape is worsening polarization and weakening our ability to grasp truth. How do we escape getting trapped in our own "bespoke realities?" This Good Faith episode draws on a recent webinar led by Curtis and David French where they address how Christians can adopt better information habits.
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"Welcome to our new 'Bespoke Realities" by David French (in the New York Times) | |||
| Why is there so much poverty in America? (with Matthew Desmond) | 10 Feb 2024 | 00:55:05 | |
How are Christians supposed to think, feel, and act as they walk by a homeless person? As they drive through an impoverished neighborhood and pass by its residents? Our reactions will be strongly influenced by how we answer the question, "Why? Why are these people poor?" To wrestle with this question, Curtis is joined by the leading scholar on American poverty today, Matthew Desmond, author of Poverty, by America. Together, they explore why most Americans are missing the full answer – and the special responsibility of Christians to live out the Biblical answer.
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Poverty, by America by Matthew Desmond
Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City by Matthew Desmond
What does the Bible say about poverty? (from World Vision)
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| Will Western culture hunger for God more than we realize? (with Andy Crouch) | 03 Feb 2024 | 01:06:41 | |
The dominant narrative is that Western culture is headed for ever greater levels of atheism, agnosticism, or at least departure from belief in the Christian God. Andy Crouch returns from his sabbatical to question this narrative. He points out that the dominant secular worldview of the West - deterministic, rationalistic, and reductionist - is starting to run on empty. Can this lead to a greater hunger for the Christian God? Curtis and Andy examine what Christians would need to do to meet this hunger, including reexamining our own understanding of the Gospel itself.
The Matter With Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions, and the Unmaking of the World by Ian McGilchrist
At the Origins of Modern Atheism by Michael J. Buckley
The One, the Three, and the Many: God, Creation, and the Culture of Modernity by Colin Gunton
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| The moral aftershocks of Gaza (with David French) | 27 Jan 2024 | 01:02:26 | |
The ongoing war in Gaza has sent out reverberations in the political, military, and economic spheres. But what about the moral sphere? Curtis is joined by "founding friend" David French to examine the moral aftershocks of Gaza in two disparate spheres: the moral practice of war and the moral practice of free speech at universities. We examine why Christians should care about both spheres, and also uncover the surprising theological similarities between them.
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| Where is AI taking us spiritually? (with James Cham and John Kim) | 20 Jan 2024 | 00:59:59 | |
AI feels like a tornado that has hit society: unpredictable, powerful, and out of our control. How do we as Christians respond to this force in the world? Curtis is joined by two friends who live and work at the intersection of AI and spiritual reflection: James Cham of Bloomberg Beta and John Kim of the Karamaan Group. Together, the three friends explore how Christians might flip the question from "Where is AI taking us spiritually?" to "Where should Christians take AI?"
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An AI primer by John Kim (on Medium)
Is AI a religion? (conversation on Bloomberg)
AI: Grappling with a new kind of intelligence (YouTube video from the World Science Festival)
Data, Truth, and AI (a BioLogos podcast)
The Spirituality of Chat GPT (Good Faith episode with Andy Crouch) | |||
| How evangelicalism got hijacked (with Tim Alberta) | 13 Jan 2024 | 01:05:17 | |
American evangelicalism's pull towards the far right is felt by anyone that comes into contact with the movement. But how did this happen? Who did the pulling? What were the motivations? What were the pre-conditions that made evangelicals so susceptible? With his latest book, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism, Tim Alberta has written the definitive book that answers these questions. He and Curtis discuss the key types of individuals, the organizations, the strategies, and especially the hidden incentive structures that lie beneath the headlines.
The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism by Tim Alberta (Harper)
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| Welcoming the Stranger: Myal Greene on the Church and the Global Refugee Crisis | 13 Nov 2025 | 00:48:28 | |
A Christian Case For Why Refugees Matter
Host Curtis Chang sits down with Myal Greene, President & CEO of World Relief, to discuss the global refugee crisis, U.S. immigration policy, and how the church can lead the way in offering hope, welcome, and advocacy. Greene explains what defines a refugee, why record numbers are displaced worldwide, and how faith communities—from the Vietnamese boatlift era to modern Good Neighbor Teams—have transformed lives through radical hospitality. Together, they unpack the biblical call to "welcome the stranger", explore how refugees strengthen churches, and share practical ways to get involved through initiatives like World Relief's Churches of Welcome.
(02:11) - What Is a Refugee? (08:31) - The U.S. Churches' Historical Role in Resettlement (14:22) - The Christian Case For Helping Refugees (23:26) - Christians Are Immigrants (29:20) - The Ramifications of Policy Changes (43:15) - A Final Word from Myal Greene
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| Good Faith Classic: How I became an "adult" on January 6th | 06 Jan 2024 | 00:57:13 | |
This episode drops on the three year anniversary of the Capitol insurrection of January 6 2021. The event revealed the dangerous nature of Trumpism and political violence. We should be worried about what happened, even today. But the event also presented an opportunity: it contained an invitation from God for all of us, one that applies to our role in our own corner of the world, even today. In this Good Faith Classic (from also two years ago exactly), Curtis and "founding friend" David French unpack this invitation for everyone. | |||
| Humility and Hope in 2023 (with David French) | 16 Dec 2023 | 01:10:49 | |
"Founding friend" David French returns to wrap up 2023 (we're taking a break for a few weeks). He and Curtis look back at the year through the lens of two core spiritual values of The After Party: Humility and Hope. We discuss what happened in 2023 that grew our humility, reminding us of the need to recognize complexity, to grow, and to learn. We also talked up the signs of hope from the year, including many that are hidden or counter-intuitive.
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Good Faith episode on the Asbury revival (6/17/2023)
'The Bear' and the need for a place to belong by David French (NYT 7/16/2023)
The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism by Tim Alberta
Losing our religion: An altar call for Evangelical America by Russell Moore
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| Why are evangelicals missing in action on climate change? (with Bruce Huber) | 09 Dec 2023 | 01:00:23 | |
Climate change is a major long term threat to our world. Yet, we find very few evangelical Christians voices or mass engagement on this issue. Why this disturbing gap? To explore this question, Curtis is joined by Bruce Huber who teaches about environmental law as Professor of Law at the University of Notre Dame. Together, they explore the deep reasons why many Christians struggle even to make proper sense of climate change.
Laudato Si' -- Pope Francis's 2015 encyclical on "Care for our Common Home"
The website of Jonathan Haidt -- see especially "The Righteous Mind"
The website of the IPCC -- the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which acts as a sponsor of and clearinghouse for climate research
An accessible book about carbon taxation, "The Case for a Carbon Tax," by Prof. Shi-Ling Hsu of Florida State University
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| What's happening at the border? Part 2 (with Michael Debruhl) | 02 Dec 2023 | 00:41:37 | |
The wave of immigrants and refugees at the border has filled the news, and will most likely influence the next presidential elections. But what's really happening there? And how should American Christians make sense of this issue? In the second of two episodes on this topic, Curtis is joined by someone with a unique perspective, Michael Debruhl. Michael is a former agent and executive in the Border Patrol who felt disturbed at the widespread misconceptions on the topic. Upon leaving the agency, he started volunteering at the Sacred Heart Shelter, one of the main church based programs receiving migrants at the border.
Helpful resources on immigration and the border
Accurate information from The National Immigration Forum (a non-partisan effort at sensible and compassionate reform of our national approach to immigration)
What's happening at the U.S.-Mexico border in 7 charts from The Pew Research Center
What's behind the influx of migrants crossing the U.S. southern border? from PBS NewsHour
Public database from the US Customs and Border Protection (the main federal agency overseeing the border)
DONATE to the Sacred Heart Shelter (Casa del Sagrado Corazón) - the shelter directed by guest Michael Debruhl
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| What's happening at the border? Part 1 (with Bri Stensrud) | 26 Nov 2023 | 01:07:07 | |
The wave of immigrants and refugees at the border has filled the news, and will most likely influence the next presidential elections. But what's really happening there? And how should American Christians make sense of this issue? In the first of two episodes on this topic, Curtis is joined by Bri Stensrud, Director of Women of Welcome, a ministry that helps American evangelical women understand what's happening at the border in light of Scripture and current reality. They talk about why Christians should care about the border, the common misconceptions in play, and how opening our minds and hearts on this topic changes us.
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| How to Know a Person (with David Brooks) | 18 Nov 2023 | 00:53:53 | |
We're living in a cultural moment where so many people feel unseen and unheard. What if the answer is not some big government or nonprofit program, but rather something as intimate as this: a meaningful conversation. David Brooks joins the podcast to talk about his new book, "How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen." He and Curtis discuss the art of connecting with another person, and why our society so deeply needs to revive the skills involved.
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| How Gaza is affecting American Jews and Christians (with Rabbi Michael Holzman and David French) | 11 Nov 2023 | 01:07:05 | |
The Gaza crisis has sent out shock waves that extend to America. In this podcast, we explore how different communities and institutions in the US are responding. Rabbi Michael Holzman and David French join Curtis to examine what is happening for Jewish American communities, college campuses, the progressive movement, American evangelicals, and wider public support for Israel.
"What it would mean to treat Hamas like ISIS" by David French (NYT)
"The laws of campus culture wars" by David French (NYT)
"The Left abandoned me" by Gal Beckerman (The Atlantic)
"The Decolonization Narrative Is Dangerous and False" by Simon Sebag Montefiore (The Atlantic)
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| Why youth leave the church - and what can be done (with Kara Powell) | 04 Nov 2023 | 00:59:39 | |
American youth who grew up in Christian families are leaving the church at a massive pace. Curtis talks with Kara Powell, executive director of The Fuller Youth Institute, about the complex reasons for this trend - and what can be done. They discuss why any understanding of the causes – and therefore the necessary response – must include parents and churches doing the hard work of self-examination and self-transformation.
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Kara's Ten x 10 Initiative that seeks to combine efforts to reach the next generation
For resources on preventing and responding to suspected abuse in youth ministry, see GRACE (Godly Responses to Abuse in Christian Environments).
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| Can political controversy actually serve the local church? (with Chuck Mingo) | 28 Oct 2023 | 00:53:02 | |
Some churches seek to exploit political controversy for self-serving ends. But many more churches instinctively avoid controversy, and steer away from topics that may reveal differences. In this episode, Curtis is joined by Chuck Mingo to explore a different route: treating this upcoming election season as an opportunity for spiritual growth. They make the case that the same spiritual muscles that get built in politics apply also to marriages, parenting, employment and other areas of discipleship. Curtis and Chuck also talk about the practicalities involved: what should happen on Sunday morning (and what shouldn't); the top rookie mistakes made when first trying to engage in politics; how the posture of the "wounded healer" is necessary for pastors; and much more.
Find out more about the Undivided course and ministry here.
Pre-order Chuck's book (written with Troy Jackson), Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice
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| How anxious institutions affect us all (with Yuval Levin) | 21 Oct 2023 | 01:01:01 | |
In the diagnosis of the epidemic of anxiety sweeping through society, the examination has tended to focus on individual risk factors or macro-social trends (like social media and smartphone adoption among teens). But this misses something going on at the intermediary level between individuals and mass society: the state of the institutions that shape so much of our daily life. Curtis is joined by renowned scholar Yuval Levin in exploring the concept of "the anxious institution." They make the case that institutions both externally cause and internally experience anxiety in fascinating and important ways.
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| Jessica Hooten Wilson on Isolation and the Misuse of Power in Shakespeare's The Tempest | 06 Nov 2025 | 00:22:44 | |
Wrestling with Shakespeare, Faith, and the Limits of Technology
Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University—explore The Tempest by William Shakespeare and its timeless wisdom for our technology-driven world. Through Prospero's struggle with power, control, and love, they draw parallels between Shakespeare's "magic" and our modern dependence on digital tools. Wilson explains how the play invites us to surrender our illusions of control, embrace humility, and rediscover relationships grounded in grace. Curtis and Jessica's discussion touches on C.S. Lewis, Andy Crouch, and the spiritual discipline of wrestling with hard texts and ideas in an age of easy answers from ChatGPT.
(02:30) - Dependence Upon Technology as Magic (05:40) - What Do We Forget in Our Obsessions? (11:03) - The Change in Prospero (13:41) - Engaging With Challenging Texts (18:53) - The Temptation of AI (21:40) - Celebrating Good Faith Podcast Production
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| The Great Dechurching (with David French and Michael Graham) | 14 Oct 2023 | 01:13:39 | |
In a wide ranging conversation, founding friend David French takes over the reins for Curtis Chang and discusses the new book, The Great Dechurching: Who's Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis, Michael Graham, and Ryan Burge. David and coauthor Graham discuss all the reasons for "the great dechurching" with a particular emphasis on the more surprising results, as well as the difficulty reversing the decline in church attendance.
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The Great Dechurching: Who's Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis, Michael Graham, and Ryan Burge
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| How to Relate to Those Who Still Support Trump (with Pete Wehner) | 07 Oct 2023 | 01:05:53 | |
It sure looks like Trump isn't going away. Many of us around the Good Faith campfire oppose him deeply. But we have people in our lives – sometimes in fractured relationships – who are going to support Trump once again. How do we relate to those people – those who are also parents, relatives, friends, co-workers, and neighbors? To wrestle with this complicated question, Curtis is joined by Pete Wehner, Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum and contributor to the New York Times and the Atlantic.
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Pete Wehner's Atlantic article on the psychology of the Trump voter
Check out resources to equip depolarizing conversations at Braver Angels
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| Good Faith CLASSIC: College, God, and the Good Life (with Meghan Sullivan and David French) | 02 Oct 2023 | 01:05:48 | |
In this Good Faith Classic episode, Curtis and David talk with Meghan Sullivan, philosopher, teacher, and creator of the most popular class at the University of Notre Dame, "God and the Good Life." As many of us send our kids off to college (or head off to college ourselves), Meghan helps us appreciate the role of education–and of philosophy in particular–in helping students take on the big questions of life. Show Notes: –The Good Life Method by Meghan Sullivan and Paul Blaschko –God and the Good Life (Notre Dame course) –What is Philosophy?: Crash Course Philosophy #1 -We want to hear your stories of living out your "good faith!" Share with us at: https://redeemingbabel.org/campfire-stories/
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| The Uses and Misuses of the Book of Revelation (with Tremper Longman III) | 23 Sep 2023 | 01:02:39 | |
Many Christians are tempted to just avoid the Book of Revelation. It can seem confusing and hard to read. Yet this avoidance can leave us vulnerable to the misuses of this part of Scripture, especially in making sense of our world. Here to help us is distinguished Biblical scholar, Tremper Longman III. Join us as we dive into the helpful - and unhelpful - ways to read the final culminating book of the Bible.
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Revelation Through Old Testament Eyes by Tremper Longman III
Is the COVID vaccine the "mark of the beast?" by Curtis Chang
Bright Hope for Tomorrow: How Anticipating Jesus' Return Gives Strength for Today by Chris Davis
Revelation for Everyone (The New Testament for Everyone) by N.T. Wright
Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church by N.T. Wright
Revelation (Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture) by Peter S. Williamson
All Things New: Revelation as Canonical Capstone by Brian J. Tabb
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| Investing Rooted in a Biblical Worldview (with Robin John and Finny Kuruvilla) | 16 Sep 2023 | 01:13:33 | |
Should your investment portfolio as a follower of Jesus look any different from everyone else's? Do our Biblical values have implications for our 401K? Robin John and Finny Kuruvilla founded Eventide Investments because they believe the answer is a resounding, "Yes!" They join Curtis to explore how we as Christians can pursue a kind of financial investing that "makes the world rejoice."
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The article the guests cited on the connections between pornography and the sex slave trade can be found here. Their article on how common mutual funds are complicit in fostering childhood smoking can be found here.
Also, read about the work of the Justice Defense Fund in exposing how publicly traded companies - and investors in those companies - profit from pornography and sex abuse.
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| Responding to Suffering (with Dr. Curt Thompson) | 09 Sep 2023 | 00:57:35 | |
What is happening inside us when we ourselves suffer or those around us are suffering? What is happening in our brain? In our soul? Curtis is joined by "the other Curt" - Dr. Curt Thompson - to talk about his new book, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope. Their conversation explores questions such as: What is the connection between our desire for beauty and our vulnerability to suffering? Why do we avoid others when we ourselves are suffering? Why do the sufferings of others make us so uncomfortable? Most of all, the they probe for the invitation of God amidst suffering.
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The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope by Dr. Curt Thompson
Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by Tom Holland
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| When Will Things Return to Normal? (with David French) | 02 Sep 2023 | 00:59:13 | |
"Founding friend" David French returns to address with Curtis the visceral question in many hearts and minds, "When will things return to normal?" They explore all the questions behind the question, such as "What exactly is 'normal?" Does it differ for different people? What picture of the past undergirds my longing?" They compare this political and social moment with past eras in American history and church history. Most importantly, they ask, "Is this the right question that God would have us ask - or is there a better question to pose in this particular moment?"
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The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism by Matthew Continetti
"Three Generations Under One Roof" by David French in NYT
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| Making Sense of the Housing Crisis (with Jimmy Wright and Michael Hall) | 26 Aug 2023 | 00:58:22 | |
Why do we as a society keep building more and more housing for people who already have the most options, all the while we are forcing people who most need housing to scramble amidst shortage? How do we not just understand what is happening, but also make something better? Jimmy Wright and Michael Hall were motivated by their Christian faith to do just that via their business Launch Capital. Listen in to get inspired by their creative and hopeful work.
RSVP here for the Washington DC live Good Faith recording on 9/5/23: Curtis will talk with AEI's Yuval Levin on Institutions and Anxiety. The event will be held in the AEI Auditorium at 1789 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20036
Matthew 5:9 Fellowship: Join with other pastors and Christian leaders seeking a way out of our political division.
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Learn more about Launch Capital and ways to invest in their model
Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City and Poverty, by America (both by Matthew Desmond)
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| The Persecuted Church in China (with Bob Fu) | 19 Aug 2023 | 00:58:59 | |
Bob Fu was a student leader during the Tiananmen Square demonstrations in 1989. He later became a "double agent," meaning he taught Communist Party officials during the day and operated illegal house churches at night.
After he and his wife were imprisoned for "illegal evangelism," they eventually fled to the United States as religious refugees. Since then, Bob has helped rescue persecuted Christians around the world and has earned the moniker of "the operator of the Chinese Underground Railroad."
On this week's Good Faith podcast, guest host Nancy French interviews Bob who explains China's human rights violations, the importance of religious freedom and rule of law, and how the Western church can pray for their persecuted brothers and sisters in China.
SHOW NOTES:
RSVP here for the Washington DC live Good Faith recording on 9/5/23: Curtis will talk with AEI's Yuval Levin on Institutions and Anxiety. The event will be held in the AEI Auditorium at 1789 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20036
B2THEWORLD: Join the Christian effort to rebuild high quality schools in war torn parts of the world.
George Fox University: Check out the offerings of one of the premier Christian universities in the country.
Notes on the ministry of Bob Fu
"The Chinese Communist Party is rewriting the Bible: Gospel according to Chairman Xi has Jesus turn killer instead of forgiving sin," by Mike Gallagher, FoxNews.
Donald Trump praises Xi to Tucker Carlson
God's Double Agent: The True Story of a Chinese Christian's Fight for Freedom by Bob Fu, collaborator Nancy French
Freedom to Pray – How Good Faith listeners can pray more effectively for their brothers and sisters in China.
ChinaAid.org – ChinaAid exposes human rights abuses and promotes truth, justice and freedom by advocating for religious freedom and the rule of law in China. ChinaAid continues to endeavor for the immediate release of prisoners of conscience, equip human rights defenders and religious and community leaders with religious freedom and rule of law training, rescue and resettle persecuted leaders and their families, encourage families of prisoners of conscience by providing financial assistance, and exposing abuse by featuring unique stories of persecution and injustice on ChinaAid's website and through social media.
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| Losing our Religion (with Russell Moore) | 12 Aug 2023 | 01:04:24 | |
Our good friend and partner in The After Party project, Russell Moore, joins us to talk about his new book, "Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America." Curtis and Russell talk about why "mapping" our loss is critical for those who currently feel culturally, politically, or spiritually homeless. We explore two kinds of maps - the "treasure map" and the "minefield map" - and why Christians need both.
"Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America" by Russell Moore Check out the opportunities at George Fox University Check out the opportunities with the Matthew 5:9 Network. | |||
| David French on Revival, Revolution, and the Future of American Christianity | 30 Oct 2025 | 00:48:30 | |
How Are Cultural Shifts Making Evangelical Trends Look Like Revival?
Good Faith "founding friend" David French joins Curtis Chang for a powerful conversation on revival, revolution, and the future of American Christianity. Together they explore whether today's supposed spiritual movements signal a genuine renewal of faith or a political realignment within evangelical culture. From Gen Z's shifting beliefs to the rise of MAGA Christianity, they unpack the tension between true repentance and political identity. David and Curtis offer fresh insight into how Christians can pursue authentic spiritual growth while navigating a deeply divided cultural landscape.
(02:58) - What is happening in American Christianity? (06:36) - It's Complicated: Mistaking Revolution For Revival (09:35) - What Does Revival Look Like? (12:11) - Revival vs. Revolutionary Christianity (20:09) - Empathy and Struggling With Sin Together (29:11) - Religious and Political Realignment in America (39:45) - Religious Realignment in American Churches
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| Anxiety and Immigration | 05 Aug 2023 | 01:31:37 | |
One cannot make sense of the deformation of the current conservative movement without understanding immigration. And one cannot grasp the nature of immigration without understanding anxiety. Like most political issues today, the topic of immigration is bathed in anxiety - for everyone on all sides. Curtis draws these connections, with the ultimate aim to show that Christians can uniquely contribute to the conversation about immigration because we have uniquely good news about anxiety. This episode draws from Curtis' talk at a convening of the National Immigration Forum in Ohio that included local pastors and civic leaders.
January 6 Was Practice, The Atlantic, January 2022 by Barton Gellman
Pew Research Center on Immigration and Politics
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| Good Faith Classic: What the heck is a Christian nationalist? (with David French) | 22 Jul 2023 | 01:04:21 | |
For this episode, we rerun David and Curtis tackling the topic of Christian nationalism. What is it exactly? How does it relate to a genuine Christian understanding of how faith should relate to a nation? And how does it relate to our Founders' intentions? Curtis and David also explore the nature of healthy patriotism and how to love your national home, warts and all.
-Thomas Kidd: "Christian Nationalism vs. Christian Patriotism" -Deseret News: "What the latest data tells us about Christian nationalism" -French Press: "Discerning the Difference Between Christian Nationalism and Christian Patriotism" -French Press: "The Seeds of Political Violence Are Being Sown in Church" | |||
| Shiny, Not-So-Happy People (with David and Nancy French) | 15 Jul 2023 | 01:03:50 | |
Shiny Happy People, a new docuseries documenting the effects of the teachings of Bill Gothard on the Duggars, had the biggest debut of any documentary series ever produced by Amazon. In this episode of the Good Faith podcast, guest host Nancy French and "founding friend" David French discuss this popular series, the legacy of Bill Gothard, purity culture, and the true hope for those affected by this anti-Biblical ideology.
SHOW NOTES:
Shiny Happy People on Amazon Prime 'Shiny Happy People,' Fundamentalism and the Toxic Quest for Certainty by David French, New York Times; June 13, 2023.
'They Aren't Who You Think They Are:' The inside story of how Kanakuk—one of America's largest Christian camps—enabled horrific abuse by David French and Nancy French, The Dispatch; Mar 28, 2021 'It was just a thing at Kanakuk': Campers and staff say nudity was part of camp cultureBy Nancy French, Springfield News Leader, May 26, 2022 Survivors, ex-employees say Kanakuk Christian camp 'ministered' to its sexual predators, by Nancy French, USA Today, May 26, 2022 Nancy French's Tweet Thread on Kanakuk Ties to Bill Gothard Joe White Says Pete Newman's Wife Should've Been His First Layer of Accountability [Deposition Video] Check out the opportunities at George Fox University Check out the opportunities with the Matthew 5:9 Network. | |||