Is it possible to bring Republicans and Democrats together? Maybe. Rob Ellsworth and Matt Parker grew up in the upper Ohio Valley playing junior golf, and today they all work in politics. Rob is a Democratic lobbyist, and Matt is a Republican strategist. While they rarely see eye-to-eye on politics, they wholeheartedly agree that golf is the greatest game ever invented and are passionate about expanding it.
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Episode 13 - Golf Greatness at Robert Trent Jones: 2024 Solheim Cup Highlights and Insights
Episode 13
Friday, September 20, 2024 • Duration 36:17
Matt Parker and Rob Elsworth discuss the recent Solheim Cup held at the Robert Trent Jones Golf Club. They delve into the significance of the event, the preparations involved in hosting such a prestigious tournament, and the historical context of RTJ as a venue for major golf events. The conversation also touches on logistical challenges faced during the event, the presence of notable figures like former President Obama and highlights key performances from players like Nelly Korda and Charley Hull. They conclude with thoughts on the future of women's golf and the potential for more inclusive golf events.
Takeaways
A Cornerstone for Women's Golf: The Solheim Cup continues to elevate the profile of women’s golf, drawing global attention to the LPGA’s top talent.
A Venue Steeped in History: Robert Trent Jones Golf Club (RTJ) is known for hosting major tournaments, RTJ’s rich legacy adds to the significance of holding the Solheim Cup at this iconic location.
Logistical Challenges Can Shape Event Perception: From parking to crowd management, logistical issues play a key role in how both fans and players experience major golf events.
Active Members and Avid Supporters: Notable figures like former President Obama add prestige to the Robert Trent Jones Golf Club, showing their support for events like the Solheim Cup.
Stars of the 2024 Solheim Cup: Nelly Korda and Charley Hull delivered standout performances, demonstrating their exceptional skill and leadership on the course.
Course Setup for Player Success and Fan Engagement: Thoughtful course adjustments, like tee placements, can significantly enhance the competitive play and the overall fan experience.
The Growing Appeal of Mixed-Gender Golf Events: With increasing interest in gender-inclusive events, there’s potential for new formats that push the boundaries of traditional golf tournaments.
Moving Up Tee Boxes: Shortening the course for certain players can increase participation and enjoyment, making the game more accessible for a wider audience.
The Solheim Cup Atmosphere: The energy of the Solheim Cup is electric and unforgettable, with passionate fans creating an exciting and immersive environment throughout the event.
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Episode 12 - Golf, Politics, and the $12 Billion Election: How Media Fragmentation Affects Campaigns
Episode 12
Friday, August 23, 2024 • Duration 01:11:08
US political ad spending is expected to reach $12 billion in the 2024 election cycle, triple the amount spent in 2016. The increase in spending is attributed to the rise of outside groups and the ability to raise small-dollar donations. However, the effectiveness of ad spending is limited, as media consumption has become more fragmented, with fewer people watching broadcast television. The challenge for political campaigns is to reach voters through various platforms and channels. Polling has also changed, with the decline of landline telephones, leading to the need for more fluid and data-driven decision-making. Both parties have their strengths and weaknesses in media buying, with Democrats having a financial advantage and more consolidated ad buying, while Republicans are becoming more back-heavy in their approach. Kamala Harris's arrival on the Democratic ticket opened up a subset of voters that were previously unavailable to Joe Biden. The key states for the Democrats are Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and if Harris can win those states, she won't need other swing states like Georgia or Arizona. The advertising strategy for the upcoming election will focus on persuading voters, motivating the base, and turning out the vote. The viewing habits of consumers have shifted, with college football becoming a cultural phenomenon and golf struggling to keep up. The future of golf content on platforms like YouTube is uncertain, but it has the potential to attract more viewers and ad dollars. The conversation also touches on favorite golf courses, dream foursomes, and the best golfing politicians.
Takeaways
Political Ad Spending Soars: US political ad spending is expected to hit $12 billion in 2024, tripling the amount spent in 2016.
Fragmented Media Consumption: Traditional channels like broadcast TV are losing effectiveness, pushing campaigns to diversify their media strategies.
Evolving Polling Methods: The decline of landline polling has led to a more fluid and data-driven approach in political campaigns.
Democratic Financial Advantage: Democrats hold a financial edge with more consolidated ad buying, while Republicans adopt a back-heavy strategy.
Kamala Harris’s Influence: Harris’s addition to the Democratic ticket has broadened voter appeal in key swing states, reducing reliance on states like Georgia and Arizona.
Golf's Changing Landscape: While college football thrives, golf faces challenges in maintaining viewership, though platforms like YouTube offer new opportunities.
Golfing Politicians: A fun discussion on our favorite golf courses, dream foursomes, and which politicians are acing it on the golf course.
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Episode 4 - The RNC, Old School Campaigning, The Future Of Golf And More With CampaignSidekick CEO Drew Ryun
Episode 4
Wednesday, May 22, 2024 • Duration 01:06:49
In this episode, hosts Cory, Rob and Matt are joined by Drew Ryun, the founder and CEO of Campaign Sidekick. They discuss Drew's involvement in politics, his experience working at the Republican National Committee (RNC), and the relevance of the RNC in today's political landscape. They also touch on the importance of direct voter contact and the role of social media in campaigns. The conversation transitions to the upcoming election and the strategies that both the Trump and Biden campaigns should employ. They discuss the mobilization of the base and the small percentage of undecided voters. Overall, the episode provides insights into campaign strategies and the changing dynamics of political engagement. In this part of the conversation, the speakers discuss the possibility of another surprising election outcome, the intensity of support for Trump and Biden, the potential impact of campus protests on the election, and the use of technology in political campaigns. They also talk about Drew Ryun's company, Campaign Sidekick, and the advancements in technology that can be expected in the coming years. The conversation then shifts to Drew's background in running and his love for golf. Drew Ryun discusses the joy of playing golf with his family and the importance of focusing on the positives in life. He shares stories about his children and their unique talents and interests. The conversation also touches on topics like favorite golf courses, the future of golf, and predictions for the 2024 presidential election.
Takeaways
The Republican National Committee (RNC) plays a crucial role in organizing grassroots efforts and providing a game plan for success in elections.
Direct voter contact, including door knocking and phone calls, is still relevant and necessary to understand voters' concerns and motivations.
The 2020 election will likely be a mobilization game, with a focus on mobilizing the base and getting out the vote.
There is a small percentage of undecided voters, but the majority of the electorate has already made up their minds.
Both the Trump and Biden campaigns should focus on mobilizing their respective bases and ensuring high voter turnout. There is a possibility of another surprising election outcome, similar to the 2016 election.
The intensity of support for Trump and Biden differs, with Trump having stronger support from his base and Biden having a stronger intensity of hatred towards Trump.
Campus protests and the divide between old school liberals and the woke left could impact the election.
Technology, such as Campaign Sidekick, plays a crucial role in political campaigns and is constantly evolving.
Drew Ryun's background in running and his love for golf.
Focusing on the positives in life can change your perspective and lead to breakthroughs.
Each child has their own unique talents and interests that should be nurtured and encouraged.
The future of golf is uncertain, but there are exciting developments happening.
Drew sees the 2024 presidential election as unpredictable, but feels Donald Trump has a strong chance of winning.
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Episode 3 - The Importance of Public Golf Courses With Valis Family Learning Center Founder Wayne Valis
Episode 3
Wednesday, May 8, 2024 • Duration 01:44:08
In this episode, hosts Cory, Rob and Matt are joined by Valis Associates Founder and Virginia golfing philanthropist Wayne Valis. After an opening discussion on the dominance of golfers Scottie Scheffler and Nelly Korda and the comparison between current players and Tiger Woods. The conversation then transitions to the guest, Wayne Valis, a former Nixon and Regan staffer, who shares his experiences working in politics and his love for golf. Valis talks about Richard Nixon's accomplishments and the need for bipartisanship in politics. The hosts also discuss the shift in campaigns and the polarization of politics. They highlight Ronald Reagan's communication skills and share humorous stories about him. In this part of the conversation, Wayne Valis shares anecdotes about his time in the Reagan administration and his interactions with notable figures such as Bob Hope, Frank Sinatra, and Don Rickles. He also discusses his experiences playing golf with President George H.W. Bush and golf legends like Sam Snead and Gene Sarazen. Wayne reflects on the changes in the Republican Party and the challenges of integrating golf courses. He also mentions the proposal to roll back the golf ball and shares a story about President William Howard Taft defending golf against criticism. In this final part of the conversation, Wayne Valis discusses the golfing abilities of past presidents, his involvement in the Valis Family Learning Center at Pinecrest Golf Course, and his thoughts on municipal, county-run, public golf courses. The conversation concludes with a fun round of quick-fire questions.
Scottie Scheffler and Nelly Korda's dominance in golf is impressive, but comparing them to Tiger Woods is premature
Wayne Valis, a former Nixon staffer, shares his experiences working in politics and his love for golf
Ronald Reagan was a great communicator and had a sense of humor Wayne Valis shares anecdotes about his time in the Reagan administration and his interactions with notable figures
Wayne discusses his experiences playing golf with President George H.W. Bush and golf legends like Sam Snead and Gene Sarazen
Wayne reflects on the changes in the Republican Party and the challenges of integrating golf courses
He mentions the proposal to roll back the golf ball and shares a story about President William Howard Taft defending golf against criticism Franklin Roosevelt and Jack Kennedy were both skilled golfers, with Roosevelt being considered one of the best if not for his polio.
Wayne Valis played and learned golf at Pinecrest Golf Course, a public course in Northern Virginia, and later became involved in the Valles Family Learning Center at the course.
Valis believes that municipal, county-run, public golf courses are important for providing access to the game for low-income individuals and promoting the growth of the sport.
The conversation ends with a fun round of quick-fire questions, including topics such as favorite golf courses, Reagan biographies, and the future of American politics.
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Episode 2 - Memories At Augusta And Beyond From Congressional Golf Champion Marty Russo
Episode 2
Wednesday, April 24, 2024 • Duration 01:13:43
Former Congressman Marty Russo, whom Dan Jenkins, Senior Writer for Golf Digest once called “way too good at golf to be a servant of the People” discusses the changes in Congress over the years even beyond his tenure, the importance of compromise and bipartisanship, and the role of golf in politics and getting things done. Russo also shares his experiences playing golf with various presidents and celebrities, emphasizing the camaraderie and friendships that were formed on the golf course. He discusses the importance of golf in politics and how it can help build relationships and promote teamwork. Russo also mentions his work on the committee to help the PGA Tour get their charitable status. In this conversation, Marty Russo, former U.S. Congressman and avid golfer, shares his experiences playing golf and his thoughts on the game. He discusses his memories of playing at Augusta National, the vibe when arriving at Magnolia Lane, and the proposed rules to roll back the golf ball's distance. Russo also gives advice for beginners and reflects on the joy of playing golf at any age. The conversation concludes with a rapid-fire round of golf-related questions.
Takeaways
The lack of compromise and bipartisanship in today's Congress is a major issue.
Gerrymandering has contributed to the polarization and lack of cooperation in Congress
Golf can be a powerful tool for building relationships and promoting teamwork in politics
Playing golf with presidents and celebrities can provide unique opportunities for networking and camaraderie
The charitable status of the PGA Tour was an important issue that helped promote golf and raise funds for charity Playing golf at Augusta National is a surreal experience that leaves a lasting impression.
The proposed rules to roll back the golf ball's distance are necessary to preserve older golf courses.
Getting lessons from a professional and practicing regularly are key to improving at golf.
Golf is a game that can be enjoyed at any age and provides a unique opportunity for building relationships.
The joy of golf comes from the ability to play and appreciate the game, regardless of skill level.
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Episode 1 - Swinging through Politics: The Bob Ney Story
Episode 1
Wednesday, April 10, 2024 • Duration 02:05:09
Former Congressman Bob Ney from Ohio is the guest on the first episode of Golf and Politics. Bob Ney has been a mentor and friend to hosts, Rob and Matthew, and played a significant role in their careers. The conversation covers Bob Ney's impact on the steel industry with the ubiquitous ‘stand for steel’ campaign, the infamous St. Andrews golf trip to Scotland and the subsequent investigation that landed Bob in prison (and resulted in House rules about accepting gifts and golf rounds) which leads to a discussion about the role of golf in politics and how the media coverage during this time was intense and had a significant impact on Bob Ney and his family. The boys then switch gears to fun stories from Bob and the host’s time on the Hill including the golf skills of Presidents from Clinton and Bush to Trump and Biden. The episode also includes personal stories of how Bob Ney influenced Rob, Matthew and Cory’s lives. Overall, the episode provides insights into the intersection of golf and politics and the experiences of a former Congressman. Bob Ney had a significant impact and influence during his time in politics, including his ability to make an impact and influence through his speeches. He also took kids on house tours, which had a positive political and personal impact. Bob shares his greatest legislative accomplishment and regret, predicts the president in 2025, and reflects on his favorite and least favorite colleagues in Congress. Finally, he opens up about his journey to sobriety and the impact it has had on his life.
Takeaways
Bob Ney played a significant role in the careers of the hosts, Rob and Matthew.
Golf is becoming a topic in politics, with discussions about the golf skills of politicians like Trump and Biden.
Bob Ney's impact on the steel industry and his advocacy for jobs in his hometown are noteworthy.
The episode highlights the personal stories and experiences of the hosts with Bob Ney.
Resistance to trade deals and the March for Steel had a significant impact on the steelworkers' movement.
The Clinton-Gingrich Unholy Alliance and Trump's stance on China shaped the trade policies of their respective administrations.
The events of January 6th at the Capitol highlighted the need for accountability and the importance of the Capitol Hill police.
Bob Ney's greatest legislative accomplishment was the Help America Vote Act, while his greatest regret was voting to give the president full faith and authority in Iraq.
Bob Ney's prediction for the president in 2025 is Donald Trump.
Bob Ney's journey to sobriety has been a transformative experience in his life.
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Episode 0 - Introducing The Golf And Politics Podcast!
Saturday, April 6, 2024 • Duration 01:03:02
Is it possible to bring Republicans and Democrats together? Maybe. Rob Ellsworth, Matt Parker and Cory Toth grew up in the upper Ohio Valley playing junior golf, and today they all work in politics. Rob is a Democratic lobbyist, Matt is a Republican strategist, and Cory is a refining and petrochemical lobbyist. While they rarely all see eye-to-eye on politics, they wholeheartedly agree that golf is the greatest game ever invented and are passionate about expanding it.The podcast will feature stories from their lives in politics, how golf intertwines, along with tips on how to improve your golf game, golf analysis, how to use your love of golf to further your professional and political goals, interviews with policymakers from the course, and more.
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Episode 11 - From the NFL to Capitol Hill with Heath Shuler (Part 2)
Tuesday, August 6, 2024 • Duration 01:12:26
In this special part 2 episode, former Congressman Heath Shuler joins the Golf and Politicspodcast to discuss his incredible journey from professional football player to member of Congress and beyond. Heath Shuler shares insights on the NFL draft process, the importance of playing multiple sports, and the sacrifices required to succeed in both football and politics.
Heath also dives into his experiences with NIL regulations, coaching differences between college and the NFL, and his relationships with legendary coaches like Lou Holtz and John Gruden. He offers valuable advice for freshman congressmen on navigating Capitol Hill and discusses his legislative accomplishments, the role of teamwork in Congress, and the challenges of partisanship in politics and religion.
The conversation touches on various topics including the role of churches in social programs, the need for change in the Republican party, the performance of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the national debt, and the importance of compromise in politics. Despite his busy schedule, Heath shares his love for bird hunting, cycling, and his predictions for the next president.
Takeaways
Heath Shuler's transition from being a professional football player to a member of Congress, driven by his desire to give back to his country.
The benefits of playing multiple sports in high school, contributing to Heath's success in football.
An inside look at the intense NFL draft process, including training, private workouts, and contract negotiations.
Heath's decision to join the Washington Redskins, influenced by his childhood admiration and the opportunity to work with coach Norv Turner.
The shift from football to politics, requiring new skills and personal sacrifices.
Insights on NIL regulations and the need for oversight to prevent misuse.
Differences in coaching styles between college and the NFL, with college coaches providing more personal mentorship.
The critical importance of building relationships and teamwork in Congress.
Challenges of partisanship in politics and religion, and how it can hinder progress.
Heath's legislative accomplishments achieved through bipartisan cooperation.
The role of churches in social programs and the need for the Republican party to redefine its identity.
Assessment of Joe Biden's economic stabilization efforts and critique of COVID-19 relief fund handling by both Biden and Trump.
Concerns over the national debt and the necessity of bipartisan efforts to address it.
The essential role of compromise in achieving political change.
Heath's passion for work, bird hunting, and cycling, despite a lack of time for golf.
Positive relationships with politicians like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan, and predictions for Kamala Harris as the next president.
The importance of recruiting skilled players for the Congressional Baseball Game For Charity.
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Episode 11 - From the NFL to Capitol Hill with Heath Shuler (Part 1)
Episode 11
Thursday, July 25, 2024 • Duration 01:01:17
In this special first of a two-part episode, former Congressman Heath Shuler joins the Golf and Politics podcast to discuss his incredible journey from professional football player to member of Congress and beyond. Heath Shuler shares insights on the NFL draft process, the importance of playing multiple sports, and the sacrifices required to succeed in both football and politics.
Heath also dives into his experiences with NIL regulations, coaching differences between college and the NFL, and his relationships with legendary coaches like Lou Holtz and John Gruden. He offers valuable advice for freshman congressmen on navigating Capitol Hill and discusses his legislative accomplishments, the role of teamwork in Congress, and the challenges of partisanship in politics and religion.
The conversation touches on various topics including the role of churches in social programs, the need for change in the Republican party, the performance of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the national debt, and the importance of compromise in politics. Despite his busy schedule, Heath shares his love for bird hunting, cycling, and his predictions for the next president.
Takeaways
Heath Shuler's transition from being a professional football player to a member of Congress, driven by his desire to give back to his country.
The benefits of playing multiple sports in high school, contributing to Heath's success in football.
An inside look at the intense NFL draft process, including training, private workouts, and contract negotiations.
Heath's decision to join the Washington Redskins, influenced by his childhood admiration and the opportunity to work with coach Norv Turner.
The shift from football to politics, requiring new skills and personal sacrifices.
Insights on NIL regulations and the need for oversight to prevent misuse.
Differences in coaching styles between college and the NFL, with college coaches providing more personal mentorship.
The critical importance of building relationships and teamwork in Congress.
Challenges of partisanship in politics and religion, and how it can hinder progress.
Heath's legislative accomplishments achieved through bipartisan cooperation.
The role of churches in social programs and the need for the Republican party to redefine its identity.
Assessment of Joe Biden's economic stabilization efforts and critique of COVID-19 relief fund handling by both Biden and Trump.
Concerns over the national debt and the necessity of bipartisan efforts to address it.
The essential role of compromise in achieving political change.
Heath's passion for work, bird hunting, and cycling, despite a lack of time for golf.
Positive relationships with politicians like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan, and predictions for Kamala Harris as the next president.
The importance of recruiting skilled players for the Congressional Baseball Game For Charity.
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Episode 10 - Old School Pragmatism: Insights from Former Kansas Governor Bill Graves
Episode 10
Wednesday, July 10, 2024 • Duration 46:00
In this episode, Matt Parker and Cory Toth sit down with former Kansas Governor Bill Graves to discuss his unique experiences from the early days of campaigning with George H.W. Bush to his time in office serving as Secretary of State and Governor of Kansas. Bill shares his perspective on how pragmatism and bipartisanship doesn’t always work in today’s rough and tumble world of politics.
Takeaways
Governor Bill Graves’ Career
From working the campaign trail for President George H.W. Bush to then himself being elected as Kansas’ Secretary of State in 1991 and Governor in 1994, Bill discusses how his love of public service led him to run for office.
He went on to serve as the president of the American Trucking Association and as a board member for NASCAR.
Nascar Experiences
Governor Graves delves into his experience as a board member for NASCAR and shares how he once served as the Grand Marshal for the Daytona 500 and rode in the pace car with Brooks & Dunn.
Introduction and Reintroduction to Golf
Governor Graves shares how his passion for golf began during his childhood, but left the sport for a period of time, only to come back after his political career ended.
He recounts a memorable golf story where President George W. Bush’s administration called him while he was playing golf and asked him to help with Hurricane Katrina.
He discusses the best golf courses in Kansas, including Prairie Dunes.
Insights From the Campaign Trail
Governor Graves shares his insights from working on President George H.W. Bush’s 1980 campaign where he ran against Kansas’ favorite son, Bob Dole.
He reflects on the generosity and kindness of the Bush family.
Modern Politics
Governor Graves shares his predictions for the upcoming election, offering an insider's view on the political landscape.
Known as a pragmatic Governor, Bill discusses how modern-day politics has shifted from the old way of making political compromises and how it has become a team sport.
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