Are you curious about the intersection of health and religion? Wondering how to navigate meaningful conversations as a healthcare provider with your patients as they discuss their own faith with you?
Hosted by a certified genetic counselor with an interfaith background, Gods and Genes explores how personal beliefs and clinical practices intertwine. We’ll hear a diversity of perspectives: chaplains, spiritual leaders, nonreligious scholars, genetics professionals, and many many more on the role of faith. Listen now to a podcast rooted in curiosity, compassion, and complexity. Whether you’re personally spiritual or simply seeking to better support your patients’ beliefs, Gods and Genes offers thoughtful dialogue, real stories, and a safe space to ask: What are and aren’t we prepared for when talking about the sacred in science?
This introductory episode to the Gods and Genes podcast introduces us to the focus of a series that navigates the intersection of health and faith. Led by genetic counselor Amber Sher, Gods and Genes delves into how religious beliefs can influence medical decisions and the ethical challenges that arise. This series aims to foster deeper conversations between healthcare professionals and patients of diverse backgrounds If you love hearing powerful stories that connect deeply with integrative health, then join us as we explore the coexistence of science and spirituality.
In this special pilot episode of 'Gods and Genes,' host Amber Sher, MS, CGC, is turning the tables and being interviewed by Kira Dineen, MS, LCGC, CG(ASCP)CM, host of DNAToday. This conversation explores the intersection of healthcare, spirituality, and genetics. Interviewed by Kira Dineen, Amber shares her personal journey and the inspiration behind the podcast, discussing how her religious background influences her practice. The episode delves into the importance of understanding patients' beliefs in healthcare and the potential for science and spirituality to complement each other.
Amber shares her personal background growing up in a religiously mixed home (Christian/atheist), her journey through deconstruction and back to a post-deconstruction Christian identity, and why that lived experience drew her to study religion and spirituality in genetic counseling for her graduate capstone at Keck Graduate Institute (KGI). With training in genetic counseling and a background shaped by a religiously mixed upbringing, Amber brings a unique perspective on how to navigate questions of faith in medical settings.
In this episode, we covered how some patients raise spiritual or religious concerns in a way that can invite us to build rapport. When this does happen, we go through strategies on how to be ready and not reactive. We cover that personal religious or spiritual identity isn't necessary to navigate these conversations. Instead, skills and training can be adapted for the scenario with examples of validation, reflection, collaboration. We go into how chaplains, rabbis, clergy, etc. can be allies who understand medical contexts and patient values. And we cover tricky situations like navigating when religious beliefs go against evidence-based options.
Gods and Genes is a brand new podcast in the Gene Pool Media network. Gods and Genes is hosted and produced by Amber Sher, MS, CGC. Logo graphic designer is Safiah Peeran. Special thanks to Kira Dineen for all the contributions to this episode. Find us at godsandgenes.podbean.com and follow us on Instagram @GodsandGenes. Be sure to subscribe to Gods and Genes on your podcast app, here on Spotify and here on Apple Podcasts, so you don’t miss future episodes exploring belief, meaning, and medicine. If you'd like to share your ideas for the podcast, reach out via email to contact@godsandgenes.com or godsandgenes@gmail.com.
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At (12:30) Amber shares that in every session religion/spirituality comes up, she meant to say every rotation she went through, not with every patient.
#4 Forge Ahead - The Legacy of a Positive Atittude
Episode 6
Friday, February 20, 2026 • Duration 38:10
In this episode of Gods and Genes, I learn from Dan Shockley, retired US Navy veteran and advocate for attenuated familial adenomatous polyposis (AFAP) awareness. Dan shares his journey from a surprising diagnosis of AFAP, a rare genetic condition, to becoming an educator and advocate for early detection and awareness. He discusses his military background, the importance of a positive attitude, and his collaboration with medical professionals globally. Dan's story is one of resilience and purpose, as he continues to inspire others through his advocacy and personal experiences.
Dan Dry Dock Shockley is a retired Navy, Operation Desert Storm, Enduring and Iraqi Freedom veteran. He’s a 13 year hereditary colon cancer syndrome WARRIOR. Dan was diagnosed with attenuated Familial Adenomatous Polyposis (AFAP), after his first and only colonoscopy at age of 51. He fit outside of the mold for most healthcare providers being asymptomatic and having no family history of colon cancer. Dan underwent successful total-proctocolectomy with a permanent ileostomy and pancreas-sparing duodenectomy resection surgeries and now shares empowering information about navigating life for others who have also had ostomies. He’s spoken to medical students, graduate students, and other training healthcare professionals to be a live-case presentation for what living with AFAP can look like. Dan shares his story with us today and lives by a simple, acronym-based motto: Always Forge Ahead with a Purpose!
If you’d like to connect with Dan, check out his Instagram @DanDryDock or LinkedIn at Dan Dry Dock Shockley.
Dan shared a meaningful piece with Gods and Genes listeners, this was featured as the tile image of our episode. He also included a short piece to describe this painting. Here’s his work:
AWE-INSPIRING FEELING, ATTITUDE OF PEACE (Survivor)
The bright orange sun symbolizes my radiant smile and awe-inspiring feeling.
The blue, cloudless sky resembles my clear mind and attitude of peace,
The grey horizon is in honor of my 22 year journey in the Navy onboard 7 ships,
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#3 “Spiritual Genetics” Meeting the Hosts of Autoimmune Adventures
Episode 5
Saturday, January 17, 2026 • Duration 55:19
Hosts Becky Miller, Stacy Griffin and Alysia Thomas share their inspirational story on how they started their restorative podcast, Autoimmune Adventures, for all autoimmune warriors.
In this episode, host Amber Sher, MS, CGC engages with the three sisters behind the Autoimmune Adventures podcast, exploring their personal journeys with autoimmune conditions. The conversation delves into the challenges of diagnosis, the role of faith in their healing processes, and their vision for a holistic autoimmune care center. The sisters share insights on breaking generational trauma and emphasize the importance of listening in healthcare. Their stories highlight the power of community, resilience, and the shared human experience, offering hope and support to fellow autoimmune warriors.
Guest Bio:
Autoimmune Adventures is a podcast hosted by three sisters—Stacy Griffin, Becky Miller, and Alysia Thomas—who are navigating life with chronic illness and turning their experiences into support, science, and storytelling. Each episode blends lived experience with expert insight, covering everything from functional medicine and nutrition to mindset, self-advocacy, and daily resilience. With a warm, honest, and often humorous approach, the sisters create a space where listeners feel seen, supported, and empowered to live boldly with autoimmunity. Their mission is simple: to share real stories, practical tools, and hope for anyone walking a similar path.
In this episode of Gods and Genes, host Amber Sher, MS, CGC, delves into the intersection of healthcare and faith, exploring how spirituality can be integrated into medical settings. The episode addresses common misconceptions about chaplaincy, emphasizing the role of chaplains as spiritual care practitioners who provide holistic support beyond end-of-life ceremonies. Amber discusses the importance of understanding patients' spiritual needs and offers strategies for healthcare providers to engage in meaningful conversations about faith. The episode also highlights the significance of religious leaders in patient support systems.
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@5:31 - “However nearly half of surveyed Americans described being religious or spiritual, but not both.” - This statistic was later verified to be incorrect. It is nearly a third (33%) of Americans who describe being religious or spiritual, but not both, as reported by the Pew Research Center in 2023. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause.
In this episode of Gods and Genes, Host Amber Sher, MS, CGC, sits down with Daniel Peach to learn about how the Cure Sialidosis community is transforming the narrative of rare diseases through perseverance, science, and groundbreaking gene therapy research, offering hope and solidarity to families worldwide.
This episode is a special episode dedicated to the global charity event: Podcasthon 2026. We’re delighted to be one of 2500 podcasts taking part in this initiative and will be highlighting the amazing work done at Cure Sialidosis 501(c)3 non-profit.
Dan Peach is a rare disease advocate and Research Lead with Cure Mucolipidosis, a nonprofit dedicated to finding treatments for mucolipidosis and related lysosomal storage disorders, including Sialidosis. Drawing from his own journey with Sialidosis and the loss of his brother Anton, Dan has turned deep personal grief into a lifelong mission to connect families, accelerate research, and make sure no one faces this diagnosis alone. Through his leadership with Cure Mucolipidosis, ISMRD, and other rare disease groups, he helps build bridges between patients, clinicians, and scientists, championing projects like gene therapy and global patient registries that bring real hope within reach. Dan Peach is the driving force behind Cure Sialidosis, a nonprofit community he helped launch to connect families and fund gene therapy research for Sialidosis.
Episode Summary
Most people think rare diseases are unsolvable mysteries, but Dan Peach’s story proves otherwise. When diagnosis gaps left his family in the dark for decades, he refused to accept "no treatment" as the end of the line.
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#7 How Faith and Science Can Strengthen Each Other
Episode 9
Monday, July 20, 2026 • Duration 28:28
Episode Tagline
Redefining Faith and Science: How Genetics and Spirituality Coexist in Modern Medicine
Guest Bio
Sari Brusso, MS, CGC, is a Prenatal Genetic Counselor employed at the BronxCare Health System, and adheres to the practices of Conservative Judaism. For today’s episode, she brings insight about this community, working with Jewish communities at large, and highlighting how faith builds into genetic counseling sessions as an opportunity to deeply connect with our patients of diverse religious backgrounds.
Sari earned her undergraduate degree from the University of Maryland, where she majored in Genetics and minored in Disability Studies. She went on to complete her graduate training in Human Genetics at Sarah Lawrence College. In her role, she collaborates closely with maternal fetal medicine specialists, obstetricians, and midwives to support patients throughout pregnancy. She is passionate about advancing genetics education and increasing awareness of genetic testing in underrepresented communities. Sari also has a deep interest in the intersection of religion and science as she has navigated the two throughout her life.
In this episode of Gods and Genes, I learn from Sari Brusso about the importance of acknowledging faith in clinical sessions. We explore her story as she integrated her upbringing rooted in faith-based social work within Conservative Judaism with her passion in genetics. As she shared with us, her life experiences have brought her key insights including:
Believing that faith and scientific progress are mutually exclusive is a misconception; both can coexist and even enhance each other if viewed through a nuanced lens.
Different religious interpretations of shared stories can lead to diverse ethical stances, impacting real-world medical decisions like abortion or genetic testing.
Scientific advancements can be viewed as metaphorically akin to divine interventions
Clinicians’ unconscious biases, including religious assumptions, influence how questions are posed and how care is delivered.
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#6 Gods and Genes is Growing!
Episode 8
Monday, June 15, 2026 • Duration 35:02
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On this episode of Gods and Genes, meet Elysse Trost! An upcoming genetic counselor and the first official Podcast Collaborator of Gods and Genes
Guest Bio
Elysse Trost is an upcoming genetic counseling student into the Class of 2028 at the University of Colorado. She graduated from Iowa State University in 2024 with a degree in genetics. As a Catholic, she developed an interest in exploring complex questions in philosophy and ethics, as well as building authentic, meaningful connections with others. After learning about Gods and Genes, she was drawn to its mission of making religion/spirituality in healthcare more approachable and has since has been warmly welcomed as a collaborator.
Episode Summary
In this episode of Gods and Genes, I learn from Elysse Trost, future genetic counselor. We walk through Elysse’s faith journey and how she has come to see Catholicism as an “array of colors.” She brings us deeper to understand a nuance in faith. Get ready for a conversation that explores the following:
People see religious doctrines as inflexible, but they actually encompass a spectrum of interpretations and experiences.
Faith helps navigate morally ambiguous issues like abortion or genetic therapy.
Sharing faith publicly involves risks but fosters authenticity and trust.
Religious moral codes shape attitudes towards medical procedures, requiring critical examination.
Doubts and questions are integral to authentic faith and ethical growth.
Religious communities are composed of varied convictions, serving as a resource for inclusive practices.
Religiously affiliated clinics provide care that respects personal values, making patients feel more comfortable about the care that these clinics provide.
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Catholicism, Faith Journey, Health, Faith and Health, Genealogy, Thomistic Institute, Genetic Counseling, Genetics, Spiritual Counseling, Career Counseling
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The two sea birds reflect freedom of flight looking ahead in life,
The palm trees are the Shockley and Wilson families,
The coconut on the tree to the left represents my AFAP diagnosis
The root of the tree on the right side of the island symbolizes my gene mutation APC.
The sand resembles that of an island. Many diagnosed with a medical condition feel isolated like an island. My representation is to reflect the opposite. Even though diagnosed with a rare condition I have the ability to overcome adversity and be a source of inspiration and encouragement for others. In other words, having the ability of taking a what could be considered a negative experience and turning it into a positive opportunity.
The left side of the island has an anchor which was washed up on the shore and half embedded in the sand. This reflects several things. First, at times in life we may feel as if we are washed up on the shores of life. Second, it has been said not to build on sand rather build on solid ground in order to have a strong foothold. Third, the anchor looks like the letter “J” on its side symbolizing my journey and forging ahead with my life having APC.
The deep blue ocean surrounding the island resembles several things. One, the world is covered approximately 75% water. Second the human body consists of approximately 75% water. Third, the island is surrounded by water. Fourth, we are surrounded by what I like to refer as the “living water.”
That's my story and I am sticking with it!
- Dan “Dry Dock” Shockley
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AFAP, FAP, APC, ostomy, genetic condition, advocacy, early detection
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James 1:2-4 - The Holy Bible, English Standard Version. (2001). Crossway Bibles.
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Faith plays a crucial role in providing comfort and strength during challenging health journeys.
The episode explores how science and faith can coexist and support each other in the healing process.
Healthcare providers should prioritize listening to patients, as their experiences offer valuable insights.
Becky, Stacy, and Alysia share their vision for a comprehensive care center that integrates both traditional and non-traditional medicine for autoimmune conditions.
There's a need for increased research and resources dedicated to autoimmune conditions.
Maintaining a positive outlook is vital in navigating the complexities of autoimmune conditions.
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Today, discover how one man's relentless pursuit of hope is inspiring groundbreaking research in Sialidosis, a devastating yet ultra-rare genetic condition affecting fewer than 5 million people worldwide.This episode dives into the complex science of lysosomal storage disorders, explaining how tiny cellular trash collectors go awry and cause progressive decline. You'll learn about the critical role of enzymes like neuraminidase 1, the genetic mutations behind Sialidosis, and the promising gene therapies on the horizon. But today’s episode is not just a biology lesson–it’s a story of perseverance.
Dan Peach shares his journey from diagnosis frustration to pioneering patient advocacy, rallying a global community of families who believe that, despite the odds, a cure is possible.We also explore the profound spiritual and emotional resilience within the Sialidosis community. Hear how faith, hope, and collective activism fuel breakthroughs, even when modern medicine has yet to find a cure. Dan's unwavering belief in science paired with his faith-driven resolve exemplifies the power of advocacy and human connection in overcoming the darkest diagnoses. Perfect for healthcare providers, rare disease advocates, and families confronting similar diagnoses, this episode illuminates how relentless action and compassionate support can rewrite the narrative of otherwise terminal conditions. If you believe that hope and science can intersect to transform lives, this story will inspire you to see the possibilities beyond current limitations. Join us as we celebrate the human spirit mobilized for change–because in every tiny cell and brave heart, there lies the potential for extraordinary discovery and healing. Tune in to learn how one community’s fight for a future without Sialidosis is changing what’s possible–and how your voice can be part of this vital movement.
Learn more about Cure Sialidosis at curesialidosis.org
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Engaging with religious figures can deepen support for patients navigating complex decisions like reproductive choices.
Within faith communities, there is a range of ideologies—from conservative to progressive (separate from political affiliations)—whose interpretations influence acceptable medical practices.
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