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Four Strings and the Truth

Four Strings and the Truth

Sandy Smallens

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Frequency: 1 episode/28d. Total Eps: 19

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"Four Strings and the Truth: The Bassists Who Changed Music" features intimate conversations with players who have changed the course of the music that came after them, and continue to do so. We'll uncover their four-string mindset - their influences, approach, artistic practice, and how they go about practicing, playing, composing songs, being in a band and living their lives. Host Sandy Smallens, an indie- and major label-recording artist and bassist of 40-plus years, shines a light on the sometimes unsung (or at least under-sung) heroes who continue to redefine the bass's role in contemporary music, channeling his experience as a music writer and founder of Spotify's original content department. Check out the official pod playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2NJT1Dpc6eGi09uJOuQWKs?si=4d76eeff2b5c4615. Theme music: "TRIBES" by Surface Wound. "Four Strings and the Truth" is an Audiation Original production.
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Back on His Grind with David Wm. Sims (Jesus Lizard, Scratch Acid, unFact)

Season 1 · Episode 10

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 52:36

He first caught our ears with the propulsive lines that drove Austin weirdos Scratch Acid; and then David Wm. Sims - and SA vocalist David Yow - decided to set it all on fire, joining forces with guitarist Duane Denison and drummer Mac McNeilly to form noise rock progenitors Jesus Lizard. Now, 26 years after their last studio album, the quartet has returned with a barn burner of a new album, “Rack” (Ipecac), coming out September 13th, and a slew of tour dates. Tune in to find out what makes David, and the band, click, what made them return, and, perhaps, the secret to his much-coveted bass sound and style.

Jesus Lizard (https://thejesuslizard.bandcamp.com/)

Scratch Acid (https://scratchacid.bandcamp.com/)

unFact (https://unfact.bandcamp.com/album/bleached-valentine)

Jesus Lizard Tour Dates (https://www.ticketmaster.com/the-jesus-lizard-tickets/artist/1131990)

Jesus Lizard Book (https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Lizard-Book/dp/1617750808)

WATT POWER with Mike Watt (Minutemen, fIREHOSE, dos, Il Sogno Del Marinaio, mssv, and a million other groups)

Season 1 · Episode 9

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 01:05:57

You didn’t think we were gonna get through this season without a dispatch from the man in the van with a bass in his hand, did you? Coming to us live and shirtless from his home base of San Pedro, CA, Mike opines on the 40th anniversary of post-punk magna carta “Double Nickels on the Dime,” how he learned new ways to collaborate in the wake of bandmate D. Boon’s untimely death, the ins and outs of his gear (including his signature Reverend bass) and who and what continue to inspire him today.

Minutemen (https://open.spotify.com/artist/0z6zRFzl5njXWLVAisXQBz?si=tZiLxjmWTByyEnhgEpureQ)

fIREHOSE (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6MIbrfpc9aH6gsEl2yep68?si=oNFImAltS_qfBOTWMB-S5Q)

dos (https://dossanpedro.bandcamp.com/album/justamente-tres)

Il Sogno Del Marinaio (https://www.facebook.com/IlSognoDelMarinaio/)

mssv (https://mainsteamstopvalve.com/)

Mike Bagetta / Jim Keltner / Mike Watt (https://mikebaggetta.bandcamp.com/album/everywhen-we-go) - my go-to dinner party music

Mike Watt’s hoot page (http://hootpage.com/) - everything he’s doing at any given moment

Reverend Guitars Mike Watt Wattplower Mark II Bass (https://reverendguitars.com/basses/mike-watt-wattplower-mark-ii/) - Reverend’s best-selling bass!

Coming Soon: Four Strings and the Truth

mardi 27 février 2024Duration 00:29

A tiny trailer for the upcoming series "Four Strings and the Truth."

Talking about Bruce Thomas (Elvis Costello & The Attractions) with Dave Derby (Gramercy Arms, The Dambuilders, Lloyd Cole)

Season 1 · Episode 8

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 45:51

When a planned interview with Bruce Thomas fell through for…reasons, we dusted ourselves off and decided to consult with bassist/songwriter/singer Dave Derby (Gramercy Arms, The Dambuilders), no slouch on the four string himself (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFcGRQROIt0).

Dave and I volley our favorite BT performances - too many to name! - and reflect on Elvis Costello’s genius/occasionally wonky pitch, Bruce’s musical auto-bio “Rough Notes” and the importance and difficulty of shaping your own legacy.

Gramercy Arms’ amazing new album “The Making of The Making Of” (https://gramercyarms1.bandcamp.com/album/the-making-of-the-making-of)

The Dambuilders (https://open.spotify.com/artist/3b5zJp91jHNhz6AByOoURk?si=JwEgkbsvRheB22WCAFnaHA)

Elvis Costello and the Attractions (https://open.spotify.com/artist/4qmHkMxr6pTWh5Zo74odpH?si=IVDwwVhCS5ecS_Pew0fIEg)

Bruce’s book “Rough Notes” (https://www.brucethomas.co.uk/?page_id=84)

The (very reasonably priced) Bruce Thomas Profile bass (https://www.basscentre.com/left-handed/bruce-thomas-profile.html)

When Inspiration Strikes with Colin Moulding (XTC, The Dukes of Stratosphear, TC&I)

Season 1 · Episode 7

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 43:34

In South West England, in a town called Swindon, a group of disaffected youth would come together in the early 70s and create a body of songs over the next few decades whose indelible melodies and incisive lyrics would root themselves in your brain and never leave.

Today’s guest, Colin Moulding, shook off XTC’s early affection for dissonance and composed their first breakthrough hit, “Making Plans for Nigel” - instantly becoming a worthy creative foil for the band’s primary singer and songwriter, Andy Partridge. Colin’s bass lines alone - serpentine, song-friendly but always memorable - would qualify him for the four string pantheon, but the fact that he has also crafted and sang some of the band’s best-loved tunes makes him a unique triple threat. 

Speaking with us from his garden shed studio, Colin opines on everything from the band’s circuitous route from touring act to studio wizards, their adventures with some of rock’s best-known knob twiddlers, and his process for letting good musical ideas wash over him vs. forcing them out.

XTC (https://open.spotify.com/artist/2qT62DYO8Ajb276vUJmvhz?si=2i_RljmPT7GW7PNw-9Yb8w)

The Dukes of Stratosphear (https://open.spotify.com/artist/1ilhXoWIlGxz3fM4B24mNo?si=cujLrBZhQzmOeTy97OBJmw)

TC&I (https://burningshed.com/artists/tcandi)

Colin’s recent solo release “The Hardest Battle” (https://burningshed.com/colin-moulding_the-hardest-battle_cd)

XTC: This is Pop (2018) - Documentary trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjPenjuPZhM)

Despair, Redemption, Legacy, Family and Keeping Going with Jah Wobble (Public Image Ltd, Invaders of the Heart, etc.)

Season 1 · Episode 6

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 01:01:42

Generous with his time, expansive with his bass playing, and one of the funniest people I’ve ever spoken with, Jah Wobble sits down with a couple of his favorite basses to discuss the gestalt of his 45 plus years as a bass man and band leader. Musical instigator for the first (and best) couple of albums by John Lydon’s post-Sex Pistols combo Public Image Ltd, Jah has gone on to create a massive and impossible-to-classify body of work in the ensuing decades. He’s coming back to these shores for a few dates this summer to revisit PiL’s most lasting document, Metal Box, reinterpreting it for a new era with his long-time bandmates. If they’re coming anywhere near you, you’d be crazy not to go!

Jah Wobble (https://jahwobble.com/) / Buy Tickets (https://jahwobble.com/#scrolled) 

Public Image Ltd First Issue (https://open.spotify.com/album/6O4XkaHVCzN7Herx0Uz4mK?si=aSKvrqcQQfOE8SqlT5EbxQ)

Public Image Ltd Metal Box a/k/a Second Edition (https://open.spotify.com/album/5votrp9PY49suw8xnXqyrm?si=DwF9xuNfT0KQH9XV6X4K4Q)

Metal Box - Rebuilt in Dub (https://cleopatrarecords.bandcamp.com/album/metal-box-rebuilt-in-dub)

Red Mist (Jah Wobble and Tian Quiyi, his sons’ band) (https://jahwobble.bandcamp.com/album/red-mist) 

“A Very British History - Romany Gypsies”  (BBC Documentary) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMioHd3CcRg)

Pina Bausch Dance Company of Wuppertal (https://www.pina-bausch.de/en/person/6/pina-bausch)

...And Now a Word From The Bass Master General with Karl Alvarez (Descendents, All, Massacre Guys)

Season 1 · Episode 5

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 48:04

Grab your bonus cups and strap on your ear goggles (kinda mixing band references here) to drink of the wisdom of one Karl Alvarez, the fleet-fingered fellow who anchors and propels power pop deities Descendents (as well as their alter-ego combo, All, who are no longer active).

As with many of our show’s guests, you could readily identify any of Karl's bands’ songs solely by hearing the isolated bass part. And for all the tumult, there’s a ton of melody. Over the years, Karl’s honed his songwriting (all of the members write), and is responsible for many of Descendents’ most popular tunes. We’ll hear about their evolution from community centers to 2024 festival stages, the far-flung band’s unique writing process and whether we should start anticipating a new Descendents album or not. 

Descendents (https://descendents.bandcamp.com/album/9th-walnut)

All (https://open.spotify.com/artist/4UWlpzLFbNdlaRXuZeTPlH?autoplay=true)

Massacre Guys (https://open.spotify.com/artist/2xF6odoDOWP93qPOyBi0Os?si=KAbqQ3CBRLeJfJSqF0vtbQ)

Punk Rock & Paintbrushes (https://www.punkrockart.com/)

Special thanks to my childhood buddy and occasional bandmate Lindsey Anderson for the connect!

A Gentleman and a Ska-ler with Horace Panter (The Specials, General Public, The Dirt Road Band)

Season 1 · Episode 4

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 42:42

(Do I really need to write any show notes after coming up with that title?)

It’s time to pick it up with Horace Panter (nickname: Sir Horace Gentleman), the man whose elastic lines launched generations of skanking acolytes. From their shambolic/iconic “Saturday Night Live” performance in 1980 all the way through waves of reunion tours that ended after the untimely death of singer Terry Hall in 2022, the Specials created a sound and energy that continue to inspire Coachella headliners and rudeboys alike. Horace regales us with his life in music and offers up pearls of wisdom for aspiring players, too.

The Specials (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6xnvNmSzmeOE1bLKnYXKW3?si=RoeShhSMTFmTnmo6BhZRYw)

General Public (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6BZbe6PDrJgxiXZ3cIXA8o?si=AgmG7MDjTnCbnVkWKevWug)

The Dirt Road Band (https://dirtroadband.com/) - his latest combo

Horace’s auto-bio, Ska’d For Life (https://www.amazon.com/Skad-Life-Personal-Journey-Specials/dp/033044073X) - a great, quick read

Horace’s art (https://www.horacepanterart.com/) - check out the cassette series!

He’s The Man with Graham Maby (Joe Jackson, Marshall Crenshaw, Freedy Johnston, Natalie Merchant)

Season 1 · Episode 3

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 44:19

Sonic architect Graham Maby joins us to discuss his 50-something year career, which began with him fulfilling Joe Jackson’s vision for a bass-led pop combo, resulting in some of new wave’s most memorable songs. In addition to performing with a veritable Mount Rushmore of power pop auteurs - including Marshall Crenshaw and Freedy Johnston - the UK-to-Long Island transplant regales us with tales of doomed band auditions and fraught studio sessions, as well as meditations on a half a century of playing with Joe.

Joe Jackson (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6KOqPxwfNAmZPkiCnDE9yT?si=NkUzH_ejRLOj41dRRicOQQ)

Marshall Crenshaw (https://marshallcrenshaw.bandcamp.com/album/field-day-40th-anniversary-expanded-edition)

Freedy Johnston (https://open.spotify.com/artist/5aeoG3xBrai5JsTqVmmgj0?si=R9McYGyKQtaxXcTcsphIeA)

Natalie Merchant (https://open.spotify.com/artist/73JEBdDEFeVaOLg3y0HhBD?si=BDTXOp7kSlG8qz9Dz5FOFg)

They Might Be Giants (https://tmbg.bandcamp.com/)

The Health and Happiness Show (https://open.spotify.com/artist/7vFQW6uaEPhczx5FLeXzal?si=Ad8hA4hkTGO7Gx-LNDIm-g)

Joy Askew (https://open.spotify.com/artist/0TkEsz8hJX1KaXWlKJLLLq?si=RGtQlfIYSTuLrfhbjbbYmw)

Fingers of Fury (Road) with Kira Roessler (Black Flag, dos, AwkWard)

Season 1 · Episode 2

lundi 3 mars 2025Duration 49:30

Providing the rhythmic glue for Black Flag’s mid-80s heyday was just a starting point for bassist/songwriter/singer Kira Roessler. Now, an Oscar- and Emmy-winning dialogue editor (that’s half an EGOT!) based in LA, Kira still finds time - in 30-minute increments - to lay down intricate, dueling bass lines with her sometime bandmate (and ex-husband) Mike Watt in dos, while also releasing her first solo album in 2021, the aptly titled KIRA. Ms. Roessler bristles with insight and self-deprecating humor in this long awaited chat.

KIRA (https://kittenrobotrecords.bandcamp.com/album/kira) (solo album)

Black Flag (https://www.blackflagband.com/)

Dos (https://dossanpedro.bandcamp.com/album/justamente-tres)

AwkWard (https://bassawkward.bandcamp.com/album/in-progress)

Buy yourself a custom Kira bass (https://www.garzguitars.com/basses) from Garz guitars


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