If you could never work in your chosen career again, would you be relieved, or would you be disappointed? Dr. Tessa West is a Professor of Psychology at New York University, a leading expert on the science of social relationships, and a researcher focusing on how to improve communication between employees, bosses, and hiring professionals. She regularly contributes to the The Wall Street Journal among other noted publications. She is the author of two books, Jerks at Work which she talked about on her first visit to Finding Brave , and most recently, Job Therapy: Finding Work That Works for You which focuses on finding out and understanding the psychological source of your unhappiness at work and then taking a series of carefully orchestrated steps to find a career with long-term staying power.

During this rich conversation, Tessa shares key insights from Job Therapy. To kick off our discussion, we explore what it might look like to reframe your career by thinking of it as you would a romantic relationship or partnership. She shares how feeling that she was being a jerk to her coworkers sparked the concept of her first book before unpacking the five forms of job dissatisfaction and their true roots. We discuss the importance of understanding that we only see the surface of the lives of others (and make many erroneous judgments about what other people have that we don't) and why identifying your own core transferrable skills is a superpower. In closing, she shares a powerful tip on truly getting to know yourself in meaningful and productive ways.

Tessa's grounded perspective in research paired with acute self-awareness makes for deeply insightful listening and learning.

Key Highlights From This Episode:

• Reframing your career as a relationship to understand the complexity and journey of it. [05:34]
• How being a jerk to her coworkers sparked the concept for her book, Jerks at Work. [11:01]
• Three of the five most common forms of dissatisfaction and their source. [13:54]
• How a theory behind a happy marriage mirrors what it might look like to have a good career. [24:27]
• The importance of realizing that we are not aware of the day-to-day of other people's lives. [27:40]
• Why a Crisis of Identity is the most common category that people fall into. [29:41]
• Identifying the core skills that can be transferred from one career to another. [33:30]
• What is really necessary to know yourself: try to be a scientific observer of your own experiences. [41:46]

For More Information:

Tessa West

Tessa West on X

Tessa West on Instagram

Tessa West on LinkedIn

Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: 

Eli Finkel's book: The All-or-Nothing Marriage: How the Best Marriages Work
Tessa's latest book: Job Therapy: Finding Work That Works for You
Tessa's first book: Jerks at Work

Tessa's first visit to the show: Episode 240

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Quotes: 

"This approach to thinking about your relationship with your career and reframing [it] like a partner came out of teaching relationships at NYU." — @TessaWestNYU [0:05:36]

"Are we actually trying too hard to find purpose? Should we maybe lower the bar a bit? Do we need to be so identified with our careers?" — @TessaWestNYU [0:18:27]

"Your goal posts change all the time. Write down what you think would make you feel like you've made it today and by tomorrow that answer's going to be different." — @TessaWestNYU [0:22:53]

"Often, we're so high level with purpose that we aren't focusing on the right things." — @TessaWestNYU [0:27:56]

"Do you still feel like your old career defines who you are, and ask yourself, 'How would you feel if you could never do this again?" — @TessaWestNYU [0:30:59]

"Try to be a scientific observer of your own experiences. I certainly didn't see certain things about myself until I started collecting real data and graphing it out and looking for patterns." — @TessaWestNYU [0:42:04]

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Don't forget – you can experience each Finding Brave episode in both audio and video formats! Check out new and recent episodes on my YouTube channel at YouTube.com/kathycaprino. And please leave us a comment and a thumbs up if you like the show!

Do you have a story that can change the world? Bobby Umar, a 5x TEDx Speaker and Inc Magazine Top 100 Leadership Speaker, believes you do. With over 20 years of experience delivering powerful keynotes across four continents, Bobby is a master at helping individuals unlock their potential through authentic connection and heart-based leadership.

Bobby is the founder of the Thought Leadership Branding Club, and his influence in the arenas of networking, social media, and personal branding is inspiring. Through his guidance, thousands of individuals have harnessed their true potential to achieve lasting impact in their professional and personal lives.

In this episode, Bobby shares the biggest obstacles people face when trying to land a TEDx talk and how we can best tackle this challenge. He outlines the key steps to securing a TEDx stage, emphasizing the importance of having the right topic, idea, title, and application. Bobby believes each of us has a unique story and experience with the potential to impact lives and change the world.

Tune in to discover how a TEDx talk can elevate your personal brand, build credibility, and grow your career. Bobby's expert advice will empower you to take the steps necessary to become a recognized thought leader and leverage your story to generate exciting positive change. Don't miss this opportunity to learn how to make your mark with a TEDx talk!

Key Highlights From This Episode:

• Why doing a TEDx talk is so important. [05:22]
• The biggest challenges of doing a TEDx talk. [06:39]
• Which of Bobby's TEDx talks stands out the most to him and why. [10:04]
• Why anyone can do a TEDx talk: every single one of us has a story. [13:33]
• The three key pieces required for landing a TEDx talk. [16:30]
• Tips for connecting with a TEDx event that's right for you. [19:33]
• The size of your following and the role it plays in landing a TEDx talk. [23:35]
• Bobby's signature methodology for landing a TEDx talk and why it consistently works. [27:52]
• The biggest blunders Bobby has seen people make at their TEDx talks. [29:23]
• Two essential things that people who want to do a TEDx talk need to know. [33:36]

For More Information:

Bobby Umar
Bobby Umar on LinkedIn
Bobby Umar LinkedIn Company Page

Bobby Umar on TikTok

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Bobby Umar on Facebook

Bobby Umar on Instagram

Bobby Umar on YouTube

Bobby Umar on Medium

Thought Leadership Branding Club

DYPB (Discover Your Personal Brand)

Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:

For a 6-month program that guarantees you land a TEDx Talk, join Bobby Umar's TEDx Mastery Intensive
Take part in the Thought Leadership Branding Club Membership Community – become one of the first 100 Founding Members and lock in your special intro price forever
Don't miss out on weekly audio rooms on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and monthly live streams on the 3rd Wednesday, all on LinkedIn
Watch Bobby Umar's TEDx Talks: Could You Change a Person's Life in 20 Seconds?, School-Learning to Fly, and The 5 Cs of Connection
Also check out Kathy Caprino's TEDx Talk Time to Brave Up

Recommended TED talks we mentioned:
Nancy Duarte - The Secret Structure of Great Talks
Shawn Achor - The Happy Secret To Better Work

Brene Brown - The Power of Vulnerability


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Quotes: 

"TEDx is the best way to have the most impact with the shortest amount of time spent on doing so." — @raehanbobby [0:05:49]

"People who are speakers – or even people who are thought leaders, have a message for the world. We're trying to serve the audience [and] serve the people that we know will resonate with what we're talking about." — @raehanbobby [0:15:21]

"Everything you have is an asset." — @raehanbobby [0:23:49]

"Every single person that I've worked with on TEDx, and has followed my signature methodology, they've all landed the TEDx talk." — @raehanbobby [0:28:00]

"A lot of people think of personal branding as a means to stand out, which is true, but the really big benefit of personal branding is clarity, purpose, and direction on who you are, who you serve, and the path to move forward." — @raehanbobby [0:33:58]

"Own that story, share it with the world, and truly make an impact." — @raehanbobby [0:35:07]

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During this episode, Dr. Judy Ho joins us to unpack key concepts from her newly published book, The New Rules of Attachment. Judy isa triple board-certified and licensed clinical and forensic neuropsychologist, a tenured associate professor at Pepperdine University, television and podcast host, and published author. Among her numerous professional pursuits, she conducts neuropsychological and psychodiagnostic evaluations, serves as an expert witness in legal cases, conducts clinical research, provides expert commentary to media, and is a sought-after public speaker.

Join us as we unpack the four attachment styles, and learn how they are formed and ways in which they influence the quality of our relationships and our lives. Judy also shares key key information about how we can begin to unravel the early experiences that have shaped our core beliefs and relational patterns today.

As Judy shares:
"If you don't go into the past to understand why you formed these patterns in the first place, you're just going to be continuing to be in the same cycle over and over again."

We also explore powerful mindset and behavioral shifts to empower parents, and Judy shares helpful affirmations that anyone can implement to change their self-talk.

Join us for an instrumental and hopeful conversation filled with valuable insights to help you heal and grow, in your life, career and relationships.

Key Highlights From This Episode:

• Welcome and introduction to Dr. Judy Ho and the premise of her healing work. [02:33]
• What we learn from our first relational experiences and how they define our approach to relationships as an adult. [08:02]
• Misconceptions about attachment and how to approach healing as an adult. [11:41]
• Hallmarks of the four attachment styles and a practical strategy to work with them. [16:40]
• Negative repercussions of the beliefs associated with anxious and avoidant attachment styles. [21:47]
• How a disorganized attachment style forms and the implications for adult life. [27:15]
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• Affirmations to emulate the self-talk of a securely attached person. [31:00]
• How to approach parenting with mindfulness to support children to form a secure attachment approach. [30:10]

For More Information:

Dr. Judy Ho

Dr. Judy Ho on X

Dr. Judy Ho on LinkedIn
Dr. Judy Ho on Facebook

Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: 

Dr. Judy Ho's Latest Book, The New Rules of Attachment

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Quotes: 

"If you don't go into the past to understand why you formed these patterns in the first place, you're just going to be continuing to be in the same cycle over and over again." — @drjudyho [0:05:30]

"Attachment at its most basic level is that first emotional connection you have with the people who generally are responsible for taking care of you and meeting your needs on a consistent and regular basis." — @drjudyho [0:08:00]

"The truth is, you can heal your attachment at any point of your life." — @drjudyho [0:12:39]

"The securely attached person doesn't just have the perfect life - that's ridiculous! They have problems just like everyone else, but they tend to have a healthy and stable self-concept, and they're more confident to navigate life's challenges." — @drjudyho [0:30:23]

"Really adhering to your highest values in parenting is the most important piece." — @drjudyho [0:33:51]

"Your child does not expect you to have all the answers. What your child does want and desire [is] that you are in their experience with them." — @drjudyho [0:34:19]

Watch our Finding Brave episodes on YouTube!

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This August, I'm delighted to bring you several of our top "listener favorites" episodes from the past year of shows. Today's episode originally aired on April 23rd, 2020. Hope you enjoy them!

"I do want us to think bigger, and the whole mindset of "the best thing" is living each day to the max because we woke up and because we are here. Indeed, if I am here today, I truly do believe the best thing is ahead of me. - Antonio Neves

Today, I'm sharing an exploration with you of my own belief, and my guest's as well, that the best thing to ever happen to you continues to be ahead of you, not behind you. Back in 2016, my Finding Brave guest reached a point where even though the internet, social media, and his resume said he was "successful," he was in a deep funk in his personal and business life. In this episode, he reveals how he set out to course correct and to ensure that his best days were always going to be ahead and not behind him.

Antonio Neves teaches powerful principles and actionable strategies to ensure that how you live your life every day, and the mindsets and behaviors you embrace, will leverage all that you've experienced and learned, and set you up to continue to thrive at your highest level.

Antonio is the author of four books including, Stop Living On Autopilot: Take Responsibility for Your Life and Rediscover a Bolder, Happier You. On his podcast The Best Thing, Antonio talks with leaders about the "best thing" to happen to them that would never appear on a resume. Antonio's speaking audiences over the years have included: Google, Amazon, Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide, Visa, Stanford University and scores more. For over 10 years, Antonio worked as a correspondent in New York City with top television networks including NBC, PBS and BET Networks. Antonio has been featured on the TODAY Show and his advice and opinions regularly appear in Inc.com, Thrive Global, TheMuse.com, and more.

As Antonio shares, you do indeed have a say in your life, but you must take full responsibility for where you are today. If you focus on being of service to others, and don't overly attach to specific outcomes and remember to reach out and not do it alone, you can accomplish anything of significance that you put your mind to.

Learn more at: https://theantonioneves.com/ 

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Today's solo episode originally aired on July 23rd, 2020. Hope you enjoy them! "For those who've sold their soul for money, their professional lives can be extremely painful, crushing and in fact, unsustainable because they've unconsciously chosen to walk away from the exciting dreams for their lives that would bring fulfillment, internal reward and a sense of purpose." - Kathy Caprino

In this episode of Finding Brave I share the audio version of Chapter 6 of my latest book, The Most Powerful You: 7 Bravery-Boosting Paths to Career Bliss. This chapter is very close to my heart, as it explores the damaging power gap of losing sight of your thrilling dream for your life, which I've lived through, and it can be a crushing experience. This is something that has not only impacted me, but countless others in the pursuit of "success" and "safety" in their careers and professional lives.

Things will happen to each of us that derail our dreams, and often you'll take a direction that you think is right for you, but it ends up being the wrong path. It's a universal experience -- that what we once believed was possible and desirable can change, and we have to change as a result. If you don't want to wake up unhappy years from now, you have to accept this fact and realize that you alone are responsible for how you respond to the life that's before you, and to the challenges and hardships that you've faced.

You alone have the power to shape your future, and now is the time to choose your own way in pursuit of the life you want to live and the mark you want to make in the world.

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This August, I'm delighted to bring you several of our top "listener favorites" episodes from the past year of shows. Today's solo episode originally aired on June 27th, 2019. Hope you enjoy them!

"I know it's scary to make the move from corporate life into your own business and you feel like you don't know enough, but I'm going to ask you to really listen to yourself. You know a heck of a lot more than you think you do." - Kathy Caprino

Are you ready to finally leave your corporate career and start your own venture? Or perhaps you have launched your business already and are facing important new challenges that you wonder if you're adequately prepared for.

In this episode, I discuss why so many small businesses fail and share my raw, real-life experiences around what I learned in transitioning from my 18-year corporate career to running my own coaching and consulting business, Kathy Caprino, LLC. You'll hear about the biggest gaps in knowledge and experience that kept me from having a smoother transition, and I offer some essential information that I wish I had understood before making the leap.

The biggest surprise for me in running a business was that even though I had been in marketing for years and had risen to the level of Vice President overseeing numerous large-scale programs, initiatives and staff in my corporate life, I still was very far away from being fully prepared for entrepreneurial life, and for serving as a true leader in my own venture.

The key knowledge gaps I explore here include: 1) Unconscious tendencies and blocks around successfully managing and relating to money, 2) Not selecting the best partners and why we often continually fail at it, 3) Why we need to step up to being a true leader and making critical decisions rather than staying stuck as the "doer" or "manager," 4) Why pivoting more quickly and flexibly is essential, and 5) Listening to your own instincts and intuition and making moves that align with your truest core values and visions rather than deferring to "gurus" who don't necessarily know their stuff or have your best interests at heart.

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This August, I'm delighted to bring you several of our top "listener favorites" episodes from the past year of shows. Today's episode features Bronnie Ware, and it originally aired on January 9th, 2020. Hope you enjoy them!

"If we dare to create some space to honor the things that light us up, even if they're not at all linked with our professional life, they will lift our happiness, our confidence, our presence and our joy. To a point that we bring more efficiency to our work, we also will bring more clarity to our life." - Bronnie Ware

The time we have is sacred, but it's common for us to get caught up in our daily activities and forget this fact. Today's Finding Brave guest has a message that will resonate with all those who are at a point in life where they know that change is needed, as she explores how life really is on our side and why in the end, courage indeed will be rewarded for those who are brave.

Bronnie Ware is best known as the author of the international bestselling memoir The Top Five Regrets of the Dying, read by over a million people in 32 languages and with a movie in the pipeline. Bronnie is also an inspirational speaker. She lives in northern New South Wales, Australia, and is a passionate advocate for simplicity and leaving space to breathe.

This conversation with Bronnie is about much more than the top regrets that people have at the end of their lives. It's about realizing that happiness is a choice that each one of us can make, and we all can have it. After listening to this episode, you'll have a clearer picture of what's involved in living a life that fills your heart and allows a greater experience of joy every day, regardless of your current situation.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://bronnieware.com/ 

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This August, I'm delighted to bring you several of our top "listener favorites" episodes from the past year of shows. Today's episode features Cheryl Porter, and it originally aired on January 7th, 2021. Hope you enjoy them!

"I tell people that what you see is not a dream. That's your reality waiting for you, but you've got to make it. It's not just a fantasy, but that's something concrete that you can actually make happen." - Cheryl Porter

When I meet someone who is succeeding at the highest level using his or her creative passion and vision, I get excited to tell others about it. It's not easy to bring our unique talents to the world in a very big way, but today's Finding Brave guest has done just that. She is evidence that there is no age limit to reach your dreams, and if you only believe in yourself and take action, you'll discover that you are indeed braver than you think.

Cheryl Porter is a YouTube Star and classically trained opera singer. With her motivational coaching videos and inspirational approach to teaching, she now has over 3.3 million subscribers on YouTube and 2.1 million followers on TikTok and is considered the top vocal coach and vocal education influencer in the world.

Cheryl is the sole creator of the innovative Cheryl Porter Vocal Method and has created hundreds of vocal exercises to specifically target and correct vocal flaws, increase vocal range and dramatically improve vocal skills for beginning and advanced singers.

She has given Vocal Masterclasses in Russia, Israel, Poland, Italy, France, Indonesia, Singapore, the USA and has coached students all over the world from Mexico, Italy, France, Russia, Puerto Rico, Japan, Africa, Germany, Poland, Sweden, Spain, Hungary, Ecuador, Brazil, China, and the Czech Republic. Cheryl has coached singers who have performed on The Voice, X-Factor, America's Got Talent, All Together Now, Italy's Got Talent, Eurovision, Sanremo Festival (Italy) and is also a Vocal Coach for the Italian trio, IL VOLO.

The inspiring story that Cheryl shares today about her own journey proves that by helping others with our amazing gifts, we too can soar in ways that we may not have even dreamed.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://cherylportermethod.com/ 

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"The goal of the conversation is not to convince. It's not to compel, and it's not to control. It's not to try to get the other person to think something different. As soon as we believe somebody is trying to control us in that kind of way, we resist. So the very effort to convince, it makes you less convincing." - Joseph Grenny

Contrary to how many people feel in our world today, it is possible to tell the truth and avoid alienating a friend or colleague or engendering terrible and painful conflict. With so much distrust among family, friends, colleagues and our leaders, it's vital to not to take the two standard approaches - being silent or violent -- on core issues but instead learn the essential skills behind expressing yourself candidly yet cordially. Today's Finding Brave expert guest reveals how it's not having different opinions that's the problem in our conflicts, rather it's how and why we express those opinions, and the approach we take before even entering the conversation.

Joseph Grenny is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, dynamic keynote speaker, and leading social scientist for business performance. Joseph has spoken at some of the world's premier leadership conferences. His books have been translated into 28 languages, are available in 36 countries, and have generated results for 300 of the Fortune 500.

I had the honor of interviewing Joseph and David Maxfield in my Forbes blog in 2015 in a piece on Gender Bias Is Real: Women's Perceived Competency Drops Significantly When Judged as Being Forceful, on their groundbreaking research on gender bias, and I've often quoted the information that their research uncovered that proved gender bias is not imagined, it's real - and their research showed on how women's perceived competency and perceived worth drops exponentially more than men's when they are are perceived as forceful or assertive. I've featured their work in my TEDx talk Time to Brave Up, and in my new book The Most Powerful You and my Most Powerful You Course which is why I'm so excited to speak with Joseph today and bring you his expert insights and perspectives on navigating crucial conversations.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://josephgrenny.com/ or www.vitalsmarts.com

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"In my work as an entrepreneur, and later an academic, [I have seen that] the most purpose-driven, successful and inspiring people seem to have something in common, which is that they intuitively cultivate serendipity. They somehow see something in the unexpected and then turn that into positive outcomes." - Christian Busch

Have you ever seen someone who has achieved success and wondered how that person has done it, or what his or her "secret" was? Today's Finding Brave guest shares his personal story and findings in studying the topics of luck and serendipity, along with the ways that each of us can start cultivating serendipity in our own lives and organizations.

Dr. Christian Busch directs the CGA Global Economy Program at New York University, and also teaches at the London School of Economics. Previously, he co-directed the LSE's Innovation Lab and co-founded the Sandbox Network as well as Leaders on Purpose. He is a member of the World Economic Forum's (WEF) Expert Forum, a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, and among Diplomatic Courier's "Top 99 Influencers" as well as the Thinkers50 Radar list of 30 thinkers "most likely to shape the future." Christian's bestselling book, The Serendipity Mindset , has been highlighted as a "wise, exciting, and life-changing book" (Arianna Huffington).

As Christian reveals, once you become aware of the key differences between luck and serendipity, you can indeed create your own "smart luck." The practical tips he gives in this episode can help you overcome the biases that hold you back from having more of this luck in your life.

As always, we want to hear how these strategies work for you, so please share your takeaways and experiences with us, and here's to helping you create more "luck" in your own life moving forward!

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://theserendipitymindset.com/ 

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"Whether we are retiring, selling a business, or we can no longer work because of an illness or caring for a family member, we will all leave our work. So how are we preparing for this transition, just like we prepare our children to transition into their careers?" - Denise Logan

In last week's episode I welcomed an expert guest to talk about the issues often faced by business owners looking to sell their businesses, and what struggles they often face as they prepare for this life-changing transition. The conversation was such a riveting one (and I was learning so much!), that we decided to make it a special two-part episode, with the conclusion airing today.

Denise Logan knows that to business owners, selling a business is more than a transaction. To them, it is often an emotionally fraught period of transition, filled with unexpected highs and lows, with no clear vision of what waits at the end for them and their family. Her passion for this work is colored by her own experience of being an unprepared business owner who made an abrupt and choppy exit from her company, after ignoring the signs that it was time for several years.

She is the author of The Seller's Journey: A Business Fable about Navigating the Emotional Obstacles to Selling Your Business, and has addressed more than five hundred audiences on three continents about the psychology of business owners and how to make it easier when the time comes to let go.

As a business owner myself, I can relate deeply to everything Denise shares, including issues around our own self-identity and how we focused our time and energy, and what happens to our sense of purpose, meaning and identity as human beings as we consider letting go of the work we've done for years that has brought us great fulfillment and joy. Whatever situation you find yourself in, whether as a business owner or employee looking to make a transition to a new role, you are sure to get value from the wisdom Denise shares today, and in last week's episode.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://deniselogan.com/ 

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"Who was I if I didn't own that business? Who else could I be? Business owners, as they're preparing to exit their business, are struggling with that same issue. Who are they if they aren't the owner of this business?" - Denise Logan

As a business owner, have you ever stopped to ask yourself what's next? Every one of us will eventually leave our work, voluntarily or involuntarily, and the key to a successful exit is about having a compelling future that is calling you toward it. Today's Finding Brave guest has spent the last decade working with business owners and professionals who are serving business owners, to help them understand what struggles will be faced when it is time for an owner to transition out of his or her business.

Denise Logan knows that to business owners, selling a business is more than a transaction. To them, it is an emotionally fraught period of transition, filled with unexpected highs and lows, with no clear vision of what waits at the end for them and their family. Her passion for this work is colored by her own experience of being an unprepared business owner who made an abrupt and choppy exit from her company, after ignoring the signs that it was time for several years.

She is the author of The Seller's Journey: A Business Fable about Navigating the Emotional Obstacles to Selling Your Business, and has addressed more than five hundred audiences on three continents about the psychology of business owners and how to make it easier when the time comes to let go.

In this first part of my conversation with Denise (Part 2 airs on July 15th, 2021), she reveals how selling a business is a transition, and not just a transaction. When it's treated this way all parties win, and the business can be successfully transitioned to its new owners. Most importantly, this can be done without regret. I invite you to join us next week as Denise dives deeper into this fascinating topic that is so important for every single business owner to be thinking about right now.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://deniselogan.com/

Today, we're delighted to welcome back return guest, Austin Belcak, who joined us way back on episode five to talk about how to land a dream job at the salary you deserve, as well on episode 89 where he shared his insights on building an exceptional resume that gets real results. Through his personal experiences, Austin has developed a uniquely effective job search system that helped him go from being a new grad with a biology degree (and a job in healthcare) to landing interviews at multiple tech companies, including Microsoft, where he ended up working for over five years and was promoted multiple times.

Austin is the founder of Cultivated Culture, where he helps people secure jobs they're passionate about, without relying on the need for traditional experience or online applications. The platform is a hugely valuable resource for job seekers and offers multiple free tools, including a resume builder and analyzer. He also hosts The Dream Job System Podcast where he shares bite-sized, highly actionable career advice. Additionally, Austin's work has been featured in multiple publications including, Forbes, Business Insider, and Fast Co. Through his work he has helped thousands of job seekers earn roles at top companies like Google, Apple, and Amazon, without ever needing to apply online.

In today's conversation with Austin, we delve into the subject of networking, why he's found it to be infinitely more effective than traditional job-searching methods, and how he developed a jobs system that could help others just like him. We unpack why traditional approaches proved particularly ineffective for him, why he needed advice from people with first-hand experience, and how he went about reaching out to those individuals who could give him the insights he needed to succeed. Our conversation also examines some of the most common misconceptions when it comes to networking and what can be done to address them. 

Austin's parting message emphasizes the importance of investing in yourself and actively creating things that other people will find interesting, before breaking down exactly how this will help your networking journey in the long run. His story serves as a powerful reminder that following your intuition and finding a braver path, will often be far more effective than sticking to more traditional routes. Join us today to hear all of Austin's eye-opening insights as we discuss the nuances of networking and finding the job you truly want! 

Key Points From This Episode: 

• Some background on today's guest, Austin Belcak. [02:03]

• How Austin founded Cultivated Culture. [05:45]

• What made him reject traditional job search practices and try a different approach. [11:35]

• Key factors that helped him determine the job he was looking for and where he wanted to work. [15:36]

• How Austin found high-achieving individuals who would understand his experience, especially coming from a non-traditional background, and how he reached out for their input. [17:33]

• Common misunderstandings around networking and advice on how to address them. [19:55]

• Learning how to cultivate persistence when it comes to networking. [26:58]

• Why people are more ready to invest in people who are already investing in themselves; how to establish channels that create value and make it easier to network. [31:09]

• Where you can find Austin online. [35:16]

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Quotes:

"[The traditional] process did not really work for me. I applied to over 300 places, I didn't get any results. And so I had to find a different path to getting a job." — @austinbelcak [0:09:01]

"Essentially, I took a very different approach to job searching. And that became the system that we teach our clients today. But a lot of it was rooted in networking. And a lot of it was rooted in relationships rather than applications." — @austinbelcak [0:09:13]

"When we buy into the system that we're told is the right way to go it can be really hard to keep going and going and going because you're not doing it because you believe it's the best way to do it. You're doing it because other people have told you that it's the best way to do it." — @austinbelcak [0:13:31]

"All these people I was going to advice for, they wanted to help, [and] they were well-meaning, but they didn't really get my situation." — @austinbelcak [0:16:35]

"I went out, and I tried to find those people who had gotten those roles coming from a non-traditional background." — @austinbelcak [0:17:33]

"If you want people to invest in you, start investing in yourself. Start building interesting things. And that's going to be [the] magnet that attracts other folks." — @austinbelcak [0:34:11]

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"Don't get down on yourself. The best thing people can do, in addition to applying more personally, is to do a bit of a listening tour when you are looking for a job, because the majority of people get their jobs through a human being and not through LinkedIn or Indeed." - Allison Cheston

After taking advantage of an expensive education, many of today's college grads find themselves ill-prepared to enter the job market. The majority of new and recent grads don't know the building blocks of identifying a career path and finding a starter job. Our Finding Brave guest's mission is to change this, and today she provides tactical steps and strategies that job seekers can use immediately to land ideal positions, regardless of what stage in their careers they may find themselves at.

Allison Cheston is a Career Advisor based in New York City, and she helps executives and young adults launch, develop and change their careers. With a background in marketing and executive search, Allison guides clients through a process of identifying their unique value and right career direction, works with them to develop their narrative and skill stories, and then helps them find the right job.

As Allison shares in this episode, the good news is that the job market is rapidly improving midway through 2021, with thousands of new jobs being added daily. She provides guidance on how to figure out what you want to do and find your way into a job you will enjoy, provide much-needed experience, and pay you a living wage. It may take some time, but by following these strategies you will find your way, and have a much greater chance to succeed.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.allisoncheston.com/ 

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"Once you're in the real world, there's so much ambiguity. There's so much less structure, and as a result it's not necessarily about keeping up, but it's about stepping up. It's about navigating this wilderness expedition that is our career." - Gorick Ng

In today's workplace, there are many "unspoken rules" that aren't spelled out clearly but early career professionals need to understand and navigate through them to set themselves up for great success. Although these rules may appear to be common sense, or known by everyone, in reality they may not be understood or even be in the consciousness of the people who would benefit most by applying them. And they most likely will ever be articulated verbally by your manager. Today's guest -- with an inspiring backstory that demonstrates why he's passionate about this topic -- reveals what these unspoken rules are and how they can be used. His messages will not only benefit recent grads, but also all contributors, leaders and managers in any organization.

Gorick Ng is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of The Unspoken Rules: Secrets to Starting Your Career Off Right, a terrific new book published by Harvard Business Review Press. It is a practical guide to help early career professionals become top performers at work and create work that is fulfilling and rewarding, based on 500+ interviews with professionals across geographies, industries, and job types. Gorick's book is quickly becoming required reading for students, interns, employees, and managers across Fortune 500 companies, non-profits, and educational institutions around the world. And this year, Harvard Business School gave Gorick's book to every MBA student to give them an edge in their internships and full-time jobs.

Gorick is a career adviser at Harvard College, specializing in coaching first-generation, low-income students. He has managed new employees at Boston Consulting Group, worked in investment banking at Credit Suisse, and is also a researcher with the Managing the Future of Work project at Harvard Business School. He has been featured in The Today Show, The New York Times, The Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Fast Company, and CNBC. Gorick, a first-generation college student, is a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Business School.

I encourage you to read a copy of Gorick's incredible new book, and both of us want to hear from you, our listeners. What are the unspoken rules you struggle with? Do you disagree with any of them, and which ones moved the needle the most for you? We want this conversation to inspire you to rock your career at the highest level, in a way that is authentic to you.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://gorick.com/ 

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"Are you keeping your eyes on what you need to accomplish, or are you looking at what somebody else is accomplishing? It is super important to know what you own, know who you are, and what you want out of life. If you don't, someone else will write it for you." - Sumana Rajagopal

If you have been given the opportunity to lead, then you know that every employee offers unique contributions, including yourself. When you start with the good and foster the natural talent in people, you build trust and that trust opens the door to start talking about opportunities to grow. Today's Finding Brave guest is a role model that all inspiring leaders can look up to, as she's made a career of practicing these principles every single day.

Sumana Rajagopal recently returned to the place she credits with learning what it means to put people first. She is fortunate to have found her calling in media and advertising and is able to put that passion into purpose at Merck Pharmaceuticals. It was there that she found that fostering her own growth included managing employee development to create sustainable business growth and drive competitive advantage in a corporate environment. Her focus on growing others has allowed her to remain relevant and resilient, creating a cycle of continued development for herself, her family and those that she is privileged to work with.

With over 26 years of marketing experience, working for three Fortune 500 companies, Sumana has found success by fostering an innovation agenda and speed to market through rapid reapplication of best practices from local to global markets. Her true passion lies in working with business teams to develop media strategies using data and insights to create demand, maximize returns and build profitable business.

In this episode, Sumana reveals concrete things you can do and say to accelerate the growth of everyone you interact with in your organization, and she shares the importance of living bravely and passionately, and allowing your mistakes to be visible as a learning tool for others.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sumanarajagopal/ 

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"There is this balance between building that world-class network in record time, doing this as quickly as possible to accomplish your goals, helping your clients more or bring your vision to life, and also the fact that we are playing a very long game. Some of the people that you're making friendships with now may benefit you in 10 or 20 years, and you have no idea how they're going to support you or how you're going to support them in the future." - Jared Kleinert

Networking is a process of true engagement with others that is critical to our success that I talk about often, and today's Finding Brave guest truly embodies this skill. If you've ever wanted to improve your networking skills to not only help in the attainment of your own goals, but to assist others in achieving their desires, there are unspoken rules you must be aware of. In this episode, our guest reveals these rules and gives you the tools that will help you become a true "super connector."

Jared Kleinert is a TED speaker, award-winning author, and USA Today's "Most Connected Millennial." He's the co-founder of a new startup called Offsite and author of the new book How To Build A World Class Network In Record Time.

As Jared shares, ultimately becoming a super connector is about doing the important inner work that we all need to do on a regular basis. We encourage you to start working on building your support network today, but don't get discouraged or take it personally if at first you don't get the results you were hoping for or expecting. If you detach from the outcome and give it your best effort, in the long run both you, and the people in your network, will benefit greatly.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://motm.co/ 

"We don't generate or manufacture our desires from thin air. We're social creatures, and from the minute that we're born we come out of the womb really looking to our mothers for cues about what's important." - Luke Burgis

Mimetic desire -- the act of desiring simply what others desire - imitating what other people want instead of developing our own intentional, conscious wanting - is a powerful force in our development, our world and in our everyday lives. Today's Finding Brave guest shares his expertise about this concept of desire and why it's critically important to identify and pursue your own unique and personalized desires with more intention and clarity, and to ground yourself in the values that matter most to you personally -- those "thick desires" and relationships -- that will endure and truly enrich your life.

Luke Burgis is the Director of Programs at the Ciocca Center for Principled Entrepreneurship and a professor of business at The Catholic University of America in Washington, DC. He co-teaches a popular class for all incoming students there called "The Vocation of Business," an anthropological investigation into the purpose and meaning of business itself.

Luke has been the founder and CEO of multiple social impact companies. He was named one of the "Top 25 Entrepreneurs Under 25" by BusinessWeek after the early success of one of his first companies, Healthy Vending, which revolutionized the vending industry in 2005. His other ventures have all tried to contribute to what Luke calls a healthy "human ecology." He is currently the Founder & Managing Partner of an organization called Fourth Wall Ventures that invests in, incubates, and advises companies that do the same.

Luke's first book, Unrepeatable, explored how people can discover and live out their unique purpose in the world, and help others do the same. His latest book, Wanting, is about human desire itself—why people come to want the things that they want, and how we can build a better future by understanding the process through which desires are generated and shaped.

In this episode, Luke reveals why people that have the happiest, most meaningful, fulfilling and productive lives are not the ones that pursue someone else's idea of what we should be producing. Also, if we can help others flourish for who they really are, it will lead to a much different and better world for everyone.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://lukeburgis.com/ 

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"First we've got to get clear about where we're going over 12 months. Let's just get clear, because if we don't know where we're going over 12 months, how do we know where we want to go over the next week, tomorrow, or the next two hours? - David Wood

What if I told you that playing safe is really the most dangerous thing you can do? What would it look like for you to step even further out of your comfort zone? Today's Finding Brave guest shares the power that exists when we focus on the right things, and he outlines the simple steps you can take to reap rewards that are not possible by remaining in your comfort zone.

David Wood is a former consulting actuary to Fortune 100 companies. He built the world's largest coaching business, becoming #1 on Google for life coaching and coaching thousands of hours in 12 countries around the globe. As well as helping others, David is no stranger to overcoming challenges himself, having survived a full collapse of his paraglider and a fractured spine, witnessing the death of his sister at age seven, anxiety and depression, and a national Gong Show!

He coaches high performing business owners to double revenue, and their time off by focusing on less and being 30% more courageous in their business or career.

This fascinating conversation with David is about so much more than just doubling your revenue, as it's really a roadmap to show you how to start living the life you have dreamed of living and are meant to have.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://focus.ceo/ 

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"We have choices about how we show up, about the choices we make, and what we do. It's there that we can start to listen to that deepest, highest part of ourselves. When we do, when we live in this "Full Body YES." Then we light ourselves up and that light then reflects against everybody else's light, and we light them up as well." - Scott Shute

Are you maximizing the time you spend doing the things you really care about? Today's Finding Brave guest reveals how you can discover what is most important to you and why, which will set you on the path to empower yourself by zeroing in on your strengths and inner self.

Scott Shute is the Head of Mindfulness and Compassion Programs at LinkedIn and has been an active advocate for customers and employees in the technology space for over 20 years, with roles ranging from sales, customer advocacy and customer service leadership. While serving as LinkedIn's Vice President of Global Customer Operations, Scott managed a team of over 1,000 employees before switching gears to combine his long-time passions for practical leadership practices and operations experience. Scott's mission to change work from the inside out by mainstreaming mindfulness and operationalizing compassion has lent to his leadership style and allowed him to live in the intersection of the workplace and ancient wisdom practices.

As Scott shares, by understanding that you have a choice to give a "Full Body YES" to what you really want, you'll realize the amount of control you truly have in your life. The key is to realize that at all times it is your responsibility to take the reins of your life and move towards your own destiny, whatever that may look like to you.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.scottshute.com/ 

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"You absolutely can claim space, because you don't have to feel fearless. You just have to do the thing that will make you feel like a more empowered human being." - Eliza VanCort

We all have a right to claim space – which means to live the life of our choosing unapologetically and bravely. Today's Finding Brave guest provides inspiring practical tips and guidance on how to claim our space, but also urges each of us to think about intersectionality, bravery and anger as useful tools in claiming space for ourselves and others.

Eliza VanCort is an in-demand consultant, speaker, and writer on communications, career and workplace issues, and women's empowerment. The founder of The Actor's Workshop of Ithaca, she is also a Cook House Fellow at Cornell University, an advisory board member of the Performing Arts for Social Change, a Diversity Crew partner, and a member of Govern For America's League of Innovators.

Eliza has led a life that any Hollywood studio would immediately dismiss as being too hard to believe. Her incredible, breathtaking journey of overcoming extreme challenges, in childhood and later as an adult, inspired her to dedicate her life to helping people of all races, genders, and backgrounds empower themselves to claim space.

Her first book, A Woman's Guide to Claiming Space: Stand Tall. Raise Your Voice. Be Heard., hit shelves May 11, 2021.

Eliza's story is a powerful reminder that it's so important to keep persevering as best you can, even though you may want to fall down on your knees at times. Recognize your bravery and your immense value in this world, and let it help you claim your space, because this is the pathway to being heroically brave, and it will inspire and uplift so many others around you as well.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.elizavancort.com/ 

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"Everything you do in life is about serving another human being, and as long as you stay focused on that, you'll never burn out. You may get tired, we all get tired, but you'll never get bored of it because you'll always understand what you're here to do is to help other people. That is always energizing." - Howard Behar

You may have heard of servant leadership and the transformative power of it in our organizations, careers and lives, but for most people, they've never seen it in action so it remains a vague and elusive concept. To address this important topic and to help us learn specifically how to embody servant leadership in our lives, I'm thrilled to have the opportunity to speak with an individual who has dedicated his entire life to servant leadership, and embodies it both professionally and personally.

Howard Behar's career in business spans over 50 years, all in consumer oriented businesses covering several industries. He retired from Starbucks Coffee after 21 years where he led both the domestic business, as President of North America, and was the founding President of Starbucks International. During his tenure, he participated in the growth of the company from 28 stores to over 15,000 stores spanning five continents. He served on the Starbucks Board of Directors for 12 years before retiring.

Hailed as "a hero of conscious capitalism," "a passionate advocate for leading with purpose," and a devoted student and teacher of the Servant Leadership Model, Howard's motivational message inspires everyone to be a servant leader and to lead with and from their values first.

As a renowned leader, speaker, author and mentor, Howard's wisdom, generosity, and level of integrity have had a profound impact on thousands of people who have been touched by his example, books, and speaking. As the ultimate servant leader, Howard is known for such memorable lessons as "The Person Who Sweeps the Floor Should Choose the Broom" and "Only the Truth Sounds Like the Truth."

Howard is also the author of the classic book It's Not About the Coffee, a guide to leading by putting people first, and The Magic Cup, a parable about the power of personal values, and he now travels the world speaking to leaders, organizations, and students.

In today's episode, Howard reveals the steps you can take to become a servant leader yourself, along with his powerful "6 P's" that can become a powerful framework for the way you live. Living these traits will make a profound impact not only on your own life, but in the lives of every other human being with whom you interact.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: http://howardbehar.com/ 

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"I think one of the important things is not to make the other person wrong for the way that they are reacting. We respect people, their emotions, and the way that they respond." - Paul Marciano

Now more than ever, it's important for all of us to learn how to talk more effectively with each other, especially around emotionally-charged topics. Although we often know that there are conversations that need to be had, many of us just can't find a way to have them or if we have them, the discussion ends badly. Today's Finding Brave expert guest reveals specific skills and strategies that will help anyone become more effective in dealing with these difficult conversations, and I'm so excited to introduce him to you today to share his wisdom all around effective communication.

Dr. Paul Marciano earned his doctorate in clinical psychology from Yale University and has worked in the field of human resources and relations for over 30 years. His best-selling book Carrots and Sticks Don't Work: Build a Culture of Employee Engagement with the Principles of RESPECT™ has been translated into several languages and received many accolades, including being named one of the 100 Best Human Resource Books of All Time by Book Authority.

Dr. Paul's newest release, Let's Talk About It: Turning Confrontation into Collaboration at Work, provides readers with the skills necessary to have straightforward and productive conversations around even the most emotionally charged issues.

On a personal note, Paul lives on his family's 100-acre horse farm in the one bridge town of Three Bridges, NJ and is the proud grandson of Ludwig Bemelmans – author and illustrator of the classic children's book Madeline.

Paul is a leading expert on employee engagement and retention and helps leaders, managers and organizations reach their fullest potential through focusing on enhancing respect, collaboration and successful communication. I'm thrilled to share that Paul is now also a member of my hand-selected Coaching Team!

Both Paul and I would love to hear how you use the specific strategies he shares to have the difficult conversations that you need to have, both in your personal and professional life. No matter how it goes, just by talking with the other person you will feel better about yourself and the situation, and as a result, be more empowered.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://paulmarciano.com/ 

Interviews can undoubtedly be daunting and intimidating, but they also present a thrilling sense of potential and promise. After all, one interview can change the course of your life. So, how do you bring your best self to an interview, regardless of which side of the table you find yourself on? Joining us today to share her keen insights on all things interviewing is Anna Papalia, CEO of Interviewology, and author of Interviewology: The New Science of Interviewing.

Anna has a deep and abiding passion for the interviewing process, and has spent the better part of her career studying, researching, and teaching the key tenets of interviewing. She has consulted with multiple Fortune 100 companies, coached over 10,000 clients on how to master interviews, and taught at Temple University's Fox School of Business. Anna is also a career influencer; with over 1.5 million followers on social media, she is using her platform to educate, inspire, and transform the lives of job seekers and hiring managers one post at a time.

We use today's conversation with Anna to delve into the science of her Interviewology method, why conventional interviewing advice doesn't work, and how deeper self-awareness can transform your approach to interviews. Learn about the four key interviewing styles and their variations, the critical do's and don'ts of interviewing, the top mistakes that almost every hiring manager will make, and why practice is essential for becoming better at interviews.

Join us today to hear all of Anna's remarkable insights on interviewing, and learn how you can show up as your best self, regardless of whether you're applying for a job or searching for the perfect candidate.

Key Highlights From This Episode:

• Anna Papalia's professional background; how she mastered the art of interviewing. [02:18]

• Why self-knowledge is a critical part of transforming how you interview. [11:02]

• The core principles of Anna's thesis on interviewing, Interviewology. [13:09]

• An overview of the four interviewing styles and their variations. [22:03]

• Why we tend to hire people who are similar to us, the downsides of this, and why diversity is essential for creativity and innovation. [28:23]

• The role of self-knowledge and self-mastery in your journey of transformation. [31:42]

• Key Do's and Don'ts for job seekers and hiring managers. [36:13]

• The one thing not to say in response to the question, "Why do you want to work here". [39:31]

• A round of questions from Anna that uncovered Kathy's interviewing style. [43:05]

• Anna's parting message: why the real power comes from owning how you are. [45:16]

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Quotes:

"I never want anyone to feel like they have to pretend to be something they're not to get the job or to do this thing. I want to encourage people to be more authentic in this process. That's the whole thesis of my book." — @AnnaPapalia [0:12:12]

"I think most people hire from a place of trying to find people that they're comfortable with because they think it's easier to manage someone who's like them." — @AnnaPapalia [0:28:38]

"If your goal in your company or department is to just keep the status quo and never rock the boat, [not] do anything creative or innovative, and [never] solve any problems, sure, go ahead and hire 10 more of you." — @AnnaPapalia [0:30:01]

"I always tell hiring managers, 'We don't need another you. We have you.'" — @AnnaPapalia [0:30:14]

"Everyone gets better the more you practice. Truly. I have seen 1000s of clients. Everyone gets better, the more you do it." — @AnnaPapalia [0:36:50]

"I want people to know that it's okay to be themselves. I want people to know that the real power comes from owning who you are [and] never pretending to be something that you're not." — @AnnaPapalia [0:45:16]

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"The work is our compassionate ability to connect and live rich, real lives. Men just have to make the choice to live a good life and to stop living this hierarchical caricature of being a human being." - Mark Greene

In our world today, there is a dominance-based man box culture of masculinity that is resulting in isolation, violence and early mortality for men and deep, lasting challenges for all those whose lives they impact. However, there are men and women who are breaking out of the man box culture, and helping others do the same, and today's Finding Brave guest is one such person. Our inspiring guest offers an invitation for each one of us to look at all of the ways we have been programmed to live, and to explore how we can escape these dangerous limitations society has reinforced in us.

Keynote speaker and author Mark Greene writes and consults on relational practices, diversity/inclusion and masculinity for organizations worldwide. As a co-founder of ThinkPlay Partners and as a Senior Editor for the Good Men Project, Mark has spent over a decade deconstructing our binary-riddled dialogues around manhood and masculinity. He is uniquely positioned to help men, individually and in organizations, create a healthier more connecting vision of masculine culture and identity.

Mark's newest book, The Little #MeToo Book for Men has been called "a blueprint for men's liberation." He is the founder of the Remaking Manhood community, which is dedicated to expanding the conversation about healthy masculinity.

I've rarely spoken to someone who has such a deep conceptualization of the work that absolutely needs to be done for our world to shift in a more positive, healthy way of perceiving and understanding human beings. Not only that, but Mark has lived what he speaks about, and the insight he provides about our society today was both fascinating and enlightening to learn from. I'm grateful to Mark for the work he's doing in the world.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: http://remakingmanhood.com/ 

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"I think the problem is that a lot of people don't see the grunt work and the long process to get to what it is they see as success. They just see someone's success and haven't been following along the whole time." - Jeremy Levy

As a singer and lifelong lover of music, I am so excited to bring you today's Finding Brave episode. I have a behind-the-scenes look at what it's really like to make a living in the creative arts, while bringing the world our special talents and being of service to others. Our special guest today is thriving in the world of music composing/orchestration, and he reveals the tenacity and drive that it took to get to where he is today.

Grammy-nominated composer and orchestrator Jeremy Levy has worked in nearly every medium in Los Angeles for over 10 years. He recently received his first Grammy nomination for Best Arrangement, Instrumental or A Capella for his track, Uranus: The Magician off his album The Planets: Reimagined, a modern big band jazz reinterpretation of the famous classical suite by Gustav Holst. He's also a well-known orchestrator for some of Hollywood's biggest films and TV series, including The Queen's Gambit, Frozen 2 and Ant-Man.

Jeremy's inspiration for The Planets: Reimagined came from Afro-Cuban rhythms, classic swing, the Buddy Rich Big Band, progressive rock fusion, acoustic guitar-driven jazz - all mixed with his love of symphony orchestra and his experience touring with Rockabilly legend, Brian Setzer.

If you have a passion of any kind, you are sure to glean some valuable strategies and tips for bringing that passion forward in a lucrative way, from the personal story that Jeremy shares today.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.jlevymusic.com/ 

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"The exact same things that will get you from seriously subpar to normal, will get you from normal to Superman. Peak performance is nothing more or less than getting our biology to work for us rather than against us." - Steven Kotler

As individuals we are all capable of so much more than we know, and everyone is hardwired for peak performance. Unfortunately our potential is often invisible, especially to ourselves, but today's Finding Brave expert guest reveals the way peak performance can be used to literally do the impossible.

Steven Kotler is a New York Times-bestselling author, an award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world's leading experts on human performance.

Author of ten bestsellers (out of thirteen books total), including The Art of Impossible, The Future Is Faster Than You Think, Stealing Fire, The Rise of Superman, Bold and Abundance.

Steven's work has been nominated for two Pulitzer prizes, translated into over 40 languages, and appeared in over 100 publications, including the New York Times Magazine, Wired, Atlantic Monthly, TIME and the Harvard Business Review. He is also the cohost of Flow Research Collective Radio, a top ten iTunes science podcast.

His new book is The Art of the Impossible: A Peak Performance Primer, which came out this January.

Luminaries and some of our world's most noted figures have praised Steven's work including Elon Musk, Arianna Huffington, Bill Clinton, Sir Richard Branson and many more.

Almost everyone I meet, in some way or another, wants to fulfil his or her highest potential but has very little idea how to do it. Listening to this conversation with Steven is a wonderful place to start, as his life itself is a lesson in achieving the impossible using peak performance.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.stevenkotler.com/ 

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"If you've got the highest salary in the room because you've been there the longest, and you're delivering less value than a fresh graduate or a Millennial who will work for half of what you're getting, you've got a problem." - Fawn Germer

Millions of accomplished professionals are killing their careers by accidentally slipping into irrelevance. They can't figure out why they've sputtered out, been pushed aside or pushed out. Today's Finding Brave guest interviewed more than 300 CEOs, senior executives, workplace experts, academics, lawyers and professionals and found out that we must immediately stage a career comeback – even if we continue to do our best work and are the best person for our job today.

Best-selling author and Pulitzer nominee Fawn Germer shows how to stop blaming everything from millennials to the pace of change to age discrimination and take doable steps to get back in the game and win. This acclaimed leadership speaker asks: "What if your greatest success hasn't even happened yet?"

In today's episode, Fawn shares actionable strategies for being flexible and resilient in the face of a quickly changing work environment. She even reveals ways in which she has needed to be brave and "figure things out" in her own career, and these lessons show the importance of just starting to learn essential new skills, and having fun in the process.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://fawngermer.com/ 

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"It's almost like reading a resume, a quick 60-second scan. I think the same thing goes for some of these pitches. You need to be relevant, you need to be specific, you need to be personal in your approach and you need to show how this person is going to bring value to a conversation.' - Maureen Carrig

If you're looking to promote a new program or book, or if you're a public relations professional who is looking to get the right media for your clients, taking the right approach to get that exposure is key. Today's Finding Brave guest is a public relations expert who specializes in securing top-level press coverage that moves our business and work forward, which is why I'm so excited to be introducing her today and to having her share her wisdom and strategies with listeners.

Maureen Carrig is a media relations expert and principal of Carrig Communications. She started her own firm after more than 20 years working for some of the largest companies in travel, technology, recruiting and financial services. She specializes in executive communications and national media relations, helping her clients build awareness, grow their businesses and demonstrate their subject matter expertise.

In this episode, Maureen reveals how to not only make a good impression with reporters and media outlets, but the ways that we can build on that good impression to form lasting relationships, which is where true growth can come. What Maureen shares here is a reminder that it's really not all about you, but rather the benefits that you can offer the reporter, listeners and viewers, to help them experience more success and reward in their lives and work.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: http://carrigcommunications.com/ 

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"We realized, as we were sitting around thinking in the aftermath of that first book, that we really think there is something here. When we started to dig into it, we started to see some of the data and we realized there is a gap worth writing about." - Claire Shipman

"Claire and I have become confident women through the choices and the risks that we've taken and the hurdles we've overcome. We've kept going with things and mastered them, and that's how you do it. The vast majority of your confidence is in your hands, and it's what you choose to do right now." - Katty Kay

We are at a pivotal cultural moment for women's leadership and representation—a time, for instance, when all eyes will be on the first-ever female and woman of color Vice President of the United States—and it's clear that role models matter. Today's Finding Brave guests are not only fantastic role models themselves for women of all ages, but they have written a new book called Living the Confidence Code: Real Girls. Real Stories. Real Confidence that highlights extraordinary girls who took risks and made a big impact. Their subjects sometimes doubted themselves, and even failed, but through it all discovered what matters most to them and found the confidence to accomplish their goals.

Katty Kay and Claire Shipman (along with JillEllyn Riley), are the bestselling authors of The Confidence Code for Girls and The Confidence Code for Girls Journal. Katty and Claire, longtime friends, have been writing books together for over a decade. They've also co-written the New York Times bestsellers Womenomics and The Confidence Code.

Katty Kay is the anchor of BBC World News America, based in Washington, D.C. She is also a frequent contributor to Meet the Press and Morning Joe, and a regular guest host for The Diane Rehm Show on NPR. In addition to her work on women's issues, Katty has covered the Clinton administration sex scandal; four presidential elections; and the wars in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq. She was at the Pentagon just 20 minutes after a hijacked plane flew into the building on 9/11 and of her most vivid journalistic memories is of interviewing soldiers still visibly shaking from the attack.

Claire Shipman is a journalist, author, and public speaker. Before turning to writing, Claire spent almost three decades as an award-winning television journalist. For the last 14 years Claire was a regular contributor to Good Morning America and other national broadcasts for ABC News. Before that she served as White House correspondent for NBC News where she regularly reported on presidential policy and politics for NBC Nightly News and TODAY.

I've been heavily influenced by Katty and Claire in my own work, and what they've done is given research and factual data to what so many of us have suspected about how confidence is curtailed and diminished, but also how it expands in the lives of girls and young women around the world, and why that matters. Their mission, along with the stories of those girls they feature, is deeply inspiring and motivating and is helping motivate a whole new generation of female leaders.

To learn more about today's guests, visit: https://www.confidencecodegirls.com/ 

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"As we learn to think the best of others, when we learn to become comfortable affirming them and when we become comfortable working for ways to serve them, then they respond and that connects us." - Mike Stallard

Today's Finding Brave guest is someone who has played a pivotal role in the support of my coaching career, and he is one of the most kind and generous people I know - a true mentor and giver at heart, and a perfect person to explore the themes of today's show. In this episode, we look at ways to help people cope with the current environment where stress, loneliness, social isolation, and its harmful consequences are all on the rise, and he reveals how boosting human connection can not only be an antidote at home, but in the workplace as well.

Michael Stallard is an author, keynote speaker, and workshop leader on how leaders create and maintain cultures of connection that help individuals, teams and organizations thrive for a sustained period of time. He is cofounder and president of Connection Culture Group, a leadership training and consulting firm. Michael's recent clients have included Costco, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, Turner Construction, Qualcomm, U.S. Air Force, and Yale-New Haven Health. Texas Christian University founded the TCU Center for Connection Culture based on Michael's work.

Michael is the primary author of Connection Culture: The Competitive Advantage of Shared Identity, Empathy and Understanding at Work, now in its 2nd edition, and Fired Up or Burned Out: How to Reignite Your Team's Passion, Creativity, and Productivity. Connection Culture was recently named one of the "best of the best" books by getAbstract. Michael also recently launched a popular online course with LinkedIn Learning titled Creating a Connection Culture.

In our conversation, shares his best tips and strategies for building and fostering connection, as a leader, manager, team member and individual contributor.

If you are struggling with stress and loneliness, please know you're not alone. Feel free to reach out to both Mike and myself, and we'll provide you with some resources to help support you through these challenging, ever-changing times.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.connectionculture.com/ 

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"What I realized is that everybody we're with is always trying to communicate something that they're not communicating with their words. Sometimes they don't have the words." - Mark Goulston

At this particular point of time, many of us are experiencing some degree of trauma, but what really happens to a person's mind as they continue to function through trauma?

Today's Finding Brave guest reveals how we can not just cope, but how we can heal and thrive in the face of the challenging situations that we are experiencing.

Dr. Mark Goulston is a psychiatrist, former UCLA professor, former FBI and police hostage negotiation trainer and the bestselling author or co-author of eight books and with his just released book, Why Cope When You Can Heal? How Healthcare Heroes of Covid-19 Can Recover From PTSD, he introduces an approach called Surgical Empathy that he used for 25 years with suicidal patients and none of them died by suicide. He is also the host of My Wakeup Call, a wonderful podcast I had the honor of being a guest on, and of the weekly LinkedIn Live show, No Strings Attached.

In this episode, Mark shares his insights into what is really going on in the minds of healthcare workers and first responders as they daily confront the horrific and terrifying situations to keep the rest of us safe. He reveals how they are "Finding Brave" within them, and what they are doing to stay strong through the pandemic and not become casualties of this war. But you don't have to be a healthcare worker or first responder to glean wisdom and support from Mark's empowering messages, as each and everyone one of us has experienced stress and trauma at some point in our lives.

Learn more at: http://whycopewhenyoucanheal.com 

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"For a long time women have been afraid to stand up for themselves, because they didn't think that anyone had their back. That's what is different about this younger generation, they are not afraid to assert their rights." - Joann Lublin

Despite tremendous progress, working mothers still face numerous challenges at work and home, and these struggles have only been aggravated in this global pandemic. Today's Finding Brave guest reveals how executive moms today differ from the trailblazing Baby Boom generation in a number of ways, and yet they still face common challenges, which provide helpful lessons for the next generation of women with children.

Joann S. Lublin is a longtime Wall Street Journal career columnist, Pulitzer Prize-winner, and author of two books about female business leaders, Her latest, Power Moms: How Executive Mothers Navigate Work and Life, hit the shelves February 16, 2021.

Her first popular leadership book, Earning It: Hard-Won lessons from Trailblazing Women at the top of the Business World, offers insights from 52 high-level executive women about obstacles they overcame. ​

Joann is the former Management News Editor of The Wall Street Journal. She created its first career advice column, which she wrote until May 2020. Joann shared the Journal's 2003 Pulitzer Prize for stories about corporate scandals. In 2018, she won the Gerald Loeb Lifetime Achievement Award, the highest accolade in business journalism.

I deeply admire what Joann is doing in the world, and her work and latest book is full of important revelations and insights into what more must be done to make being a working mother (and parent) easier in 2021 and beyond.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.joannlublin.com/ 

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"We're all pretty scared. We're all worried we're going to mess things up. We're all pretty nervous that we don't have all the answers, and I think that was the thing that I was very afraid to tell anybody, that I didn't know what I didn't know." - Alli Webb

When successful entrepreneurs share their stories, it's often the highlights that are focused on. However, today's Finding Brave guest reveals the personal challenges that she's faced along her journey to "raise the bar" in every aspect of her life, and she tackles the conversations that people in leadership rarely have in public.

Alli Webb is a New York Times bestselling author and founder of DryBar and Squeeze. Alli has been named one of the "100 Most Creative People in Business" by Fast Company, featured on Fortune magazine's "40 Under 40" list, Marie Claire's "Most Fascinating Women," and covered in Inc. Magazine's "How I Did This" issue. Recently Inc. Magazine recognized her as one of "The 100 Women Building America's Most Innovative and Ambitious Businesses."

She has also been featured as a guest Shark on ABC's SharkTank and Alli just launched season two of her podcast Raising the Bar with executive coach and boyfriend Adrian Koehler, where they pull back the curtain on the things entrepreneurs really want to know.

Alli is a relentlessly positive person who realizes that life isn't supposed to be just a "walk in the park." There are unavoidable struggles that will come along with the good times for everyone, and it's refreshing to hear someone as successful as Ali share her story so openly and honestly with others.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.instagram.com/alliwebb/ 

Watching people and observing their behaviors is fascinating for many reasons. Yes, it's fun, but it can also be very revealing. To learn more about what the behavior and communication of others can tell you about them, we are joined by renowned author, retired FBI agent, and keynote speaker, Robin Dreeke.

With a distinguished career that includes serving as the Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, Robin has honed his ability to navigate complex social dynamics and build unbreakable alliances based on trust. Recognizing the vital role trust plays in business success, he has dedicated himself to helping organizations cultivate trust, enhance communication, and foster strong relationships within their teams and with their clients.

Today, Robin returns to the show to discuss all things communication, particularly what people's behavior reveals about what you can expect from them. Tuning in, you'll learn about the power of asking 'what?' questions to find out why someone inspires you, how empathy can help you resolve conflict in your relationships, why human beings don't typically thrive in abundance, what you can glean about a person by how they treat others, and so much more.

Drawing on his extensive experience in counterintelligence and behavioral analysis, Robin provides invaluable insights and actionable strategies that empower individuals and businesses to thrive. If you want to become a true resource and catalyst for the success and growth of others, you'll find his tips powerful, including learning how to embrace active curiosity and key steps to inspire people to feel safe with you. Don't miss this eye-opening discussion!

Key Highlight From This Episode:

• How self-awareness, transparency, honesty, and vulnerability counteract toxic shame.   [06:29]

• Owning your role in any conflict by understanding how others perceive you and how your experiences and biases color your perception of others. [12:11]

• Insight into Robin's belief that we are meant to walk the path of life together. [20:05]

• The deeply complex conditions that contribute to war and death in our society. [23:20]

• What someone's behavior toward others tells you clearly about what to expect from them. [27:02]

• A powerful quote from Nelson Mandela and why books are the key to opening your mind. [31:04]

•  How to shift the focus from yourself to others with Robin's four keys to communication. [37:41]

•  Actionable advice for holding yourself accountable in your relationships. [40:33]

•  Closing with a profound question to ask yourself about your final hours on earth! [41:43]

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Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:

Listen to Episode 160 with Robin Dreeke, 'Former FBI Special Agent Shares 5 Key Steps to Building Trust and Rapport'.

Check out Kathy's Valentine's Day post about self-love on LinkedIn.

Get your copy of Insight: The Surprising Truth About How Others See Us, How We See Ourselves, and Why the Answers Matter More Than We Think by Tasha Eurich.

Read Nelson Mandela's Long Walk to Freedom to help you understand history (and how to change it).

Watch Tucker Carlson's interview with Russian President, Vladimir Putin.

Get these recommended reads by Yuval Noah Harari: Sapiens and Homo Deus.

Become the authority in your own life with The Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav.

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Quotes:

"Think about who it is you get excited about when they walk through the door – because you know it's going to be a great conversation and then ask yourself, am I that person for someone else? Then, what behaviors make it so?" — @rdreeke [0:03:53]

"We all have our own experiences, confirmation biases – all the things that impact how we see the world through our context and perception affect how we interact with everyone. It affects how I see a relationship as balanced or unbalanced." — @rdreeke [0:13:41]

"The companies that have thrived are not the ones that took it out on their employees by firing them. They're the ones that everyone took a pay cut to stay together – because if you form a circle of safety where people feel trusted, that's when you innovate." — @rdreeke [0:22:47]

"When you're assessing others and the people you're letting into your life, look at how they treat others – Do they tip well, do they not tip well, do they take care of others, do they gossip about people? Those are the [behaviors] I'm always looking at." — @rdreeke [0:29:27]

"Seek the thoughts and opinions of others instead of telling them all about yours – Speak in terms of their challenges, priorities, pain points, [and] friction points instead of yours – Be non-judgmentally curious." — @rdreeke [0:38:45]

"If you had two hours left on this beautiful planet of ours – what do you do with [them]? I'll answer for most people. I know what I would do. I would have the most beautiful conversation I could with the most beautiful people in my life." — @rdreeke [0:41:47]

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"I think society and life wants to see that we're willing to do the work. Our dreams need encouragement, and that encouragement is the decisions that we make every single day." - Antonio Neves

My conversation with last week's Finding Brave guest was such an impactful one that we decided to air the conclusion this week, as the second of a two-part miniseries on course-correcting your life, before a crash happens.

Antonio Neves is the author of Stop Living on Autopilot: Take Responsibility for Your Life and Rediscover a Bolder, Happier You; host of The Best Thing podcast and internationally recognized speaker. A top success coach, Antonio regularly delivers keynotes and trainings at top organizations worldwide. An award-winning journalist, for over 10 years Antonio worked as a business correspondent, host, and producer with top television networks (NBC, PBS, BET, etc.). During his career he has spent hundreds of hours interviewing and profiling prominent CEOs, startup founders, politicians, entertainers, athletes, and beyond.

In this episode Antonio talks more about the "uniforms" that we all wear in our daily lives, and the ways we can start stepping out of those and into our true selves while not allowing ourselves to be a victim. I am so grateful to Antonio for taking the time to return to the podcast to share his wisdom with us, and for being so honest, brave and transparent in the process.

For more information about today's guest, visit: https://theantonioneves.com/ 

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"You do everything that society told you to do, to be happy and live the 'American Dream', but then at some point you find yourself living on autopilot. You find yourself going through the motions, and I found myself living on cruise control." - Antonio Neves

If the past year has taught us anything, it's that life presents unexpected challenges. Today's Finding Brave guest returns to the podcast to share his inspiring message, and how the perfect antidote to overcome life's challenging situations is to stop going through the motions, or as he calls it, to stop "living on autopilot."

Antonio Neves is the author of Stop Living on Autopilot: Take Responsibility for Your Life and Rediscover a Bolder, Happier You; host of The Best Thing podcast and internationally recognized speaker. A top success coach, Antonio regularly delivers keynotes and trainings at top organizations worldwide. An award-winning journalist, for over 10 years Antonio worked as a business correspondent, host, and producer with top television networks (NBC, PBS, BET, etc.). During his career he has spent hundreds of hours interviewing and profiling prominent CEOs, startup founders, politicians, entertainers, athletes, and beyond.

If you feel lost, stuck, and out of place in your own life, Antonio's latest book, and the messages he shares today will help you find your drive and take empowering action to stay bold for lasting happiness. This episode is Part 1 of a special two-part mini-series with Antonio, and we hope to see you back for Part 2 next week.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://theantonioneves.com/ 

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"We're all working on something and we're all insecure about something. If you give yourself a negative confirmation bias, you're always going to find the negative in someone. Give yourself a positive confirmation bias and always look for the greatness in others, because if you see their greatness, what better thing is there to have than that?" - Robin Dreeke

Building trust and rapport with others was absolutely essential in Robin's former FBI and counterintelligence work, and is critical for all of us to master for so many reasons, but it's also a struggle for many. Today's Finding Brave guest has developed powerful strategies for ensuring trust and building strong healthy relationships through great communication, and he shares his framework for doing so with us today.

Robin Dreeke is a best-selling author, professional speaker, trainer, facilitator, and retired FBI Special Agent and Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. Robin has taken his life's work of recruiting spies and broken down the art of leadership, communication, and relationship building into Five Steps to TRUST and Six Signs of who you can TRUST. Since 2010, Robin has been working with large corporations as well as small companies in every aspect of their business. Whether it is supporting newly promoted leaders, executives, sales teams, or customer relations, Robin has crafted his People Formula for quick results and maximum success.

In this episode, Robin reveals the magic that occurs when you discover the greatness in others instead of focusing on their insecurities, and new ways you can become a valuable resource for the people that you meet. I believe Robin's superpower is that he has taken so much time and effort to make sense of a reality that is not only helpful for himself, but for so many others, and it was a pleasure to learn from him today.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.peopleformula.com/ 

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"Rally behind the fact that [introverts] are not second-class citizens. Our path to success is just different, and when we embrace that and a system that is going to leverage our natural strengths, we can outperform in all these so-called extroverted arenas. They're all introverted ones in my mind." - Matthew Pollard

Networking is often seen as a skill that only extroverts can master, but today's Finding Brave returning guest reveals not only how to network as an introvert, but what you can do to be truly amazing at it. His work proves that introversion doesn't make you a second-class citizen, and he provides the specific tools and a way to systemize the networking process for introverts that is game changing.

Called "the real deal" by Forbes, Matthew Pollard is the bestselling author of The Introvert's Edge: How the Quiet and Shy Can Outsell Anyone, Amazon's 8th Most-Sold Book of the Week and BookAuthority's #2 "Best Introvert Book of All Time."

Now adding a new book to his series,The Introvert's Edge to Networking: Work the Room. Leverage Social Media. Develop Powerful Connections, Matthew is on a mission to confront the stigma that introverts can't be successful at business, sales, networking, speaking, or any other so-called "extroverted" arena, and shares the tactics and strategies that have worked for him, his clients, and students in overcoming imagined barriers to success as an introvert.

I've known Matthew for years now, and what strikes me is how generous he is in sharing his knowledge and expertise with others. Whether you are an introvert, extrovert, or fall somewhere in between, I am 100% confident that something he discusses in this episode will help you to network and succeed.

Further, even extroverts can learn so much from Matthew (I know I do)!

To learn more about today's guest, visit: http://theintrovertsedge.com/networking 

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"This older way, what we call this more conventional and confined way of being a man, it no longer works. It's proving to be unhealthy, and even dangerous in the workplace and beyond, in society." - Ed Frauenheim

In the flatter, faster, fairness-focused world that's taking shape today, it's become clear that we need a new model for how men show up and lead in organizations. The traditional, "confined" masculinity steers men to be more rigid, cold and isolated in a work world that's now calling for flexibility, warmth and connection. Today's Finding Brave guest shares his messages and insights about how a new, liberating masculinity is emerging—and can be seen in some of today's leading business executives and sports leaders. It's a male ethos that enables men to break out of the emotional straightjacket many grew up with, to reckon with the privilege and power we have long benefitted from, and to succeed in new, inclusive ways.

Ed Frauenheim is a writer and speaker who has focused on workplace, technology and culture matters for more than 25 years. His writing has been featured in Fortune, Inc. and USA Today. He has co-authored four books including the latest, Reinventing Masculinity: The Liberating Power of Compassion and Connection, co-written with Dr. Ed Adams, a past president of the American Psychological Association's division devoted to the treatment of men and boys.

In their book, the two Eds tell the story of how we are evolving from a cramped, unhealthy, outdated masculinity to one that frees us all to build a better, more inclusive future.

In this episode, Ed reveals the ways that we can all move from exclusive to inclusive success through the use of his innovative "5Cs" framework. This information can help us all level up to succeed and develop our inclusive spirit and habits.

To lean more about today's guest, visit: https://www.reinventingmasculinity.com/ 

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"I tell people that what you see is not a dream. That's your reality waiting for you, but you've got to make it. It's not just a fantasy, but that's something concrete that you can actually make happen." - Cheryl Porter

When I meet someone who is succeeding at the highest level using his or her creative passion and vision, I get excited to tell others about it. It's not easy to bring our unique talents to the world in a very big way, but today's Finding Brave guest has done just that. She is evidence that there is no age limit to reach your dreams, and if you only believe in yourself and take action, you'll discover that you are indeed braver than you think.

Cheryl Porter is a YouTube Star and classically trained opera singer. With her motivational coaching videos and inspirational approach to teaching, she has over 125 million views on YouTube and is considered the top vocal coach and vocal education influencer in the world.

Cheryl is the sole creator of the innovational Cheryl Porter Vocal Method and has created over 300 vocal exercises to specifically target and correct vocal flaws, increase vocal range and dramatically improve vocal skills for beginning and advanced singers.

She has given Vocal Masterclasses in Russia, Israel, Poland, Italy, France, Indonesia, Singapore, the USA and has coached students all over the world from Mexico, Italy, France, Russia, Puerto Rico, Japan, Africa, Germany, Poland, Sweden, Spain, Hungary, Ecuador, Brazil, China, and the Czech Republic.

Cheryl has coached singers who have performed on The Voice, X-Factor, America's Got Talent, All Together Now, Italy's Got Talent, Eurovision, Sanremo Festival (Italy) and is also a Vocal Coach for the Italian trio, IL VOLO.

The inspiring story that Cheryl shares today about her own journey proves that by helping others with our amazing gifts, we too can soar in ways that we may not have even dreamed.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://cherylportermethod.com/ 

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"Everyone is given guidance all of the time, but most of the time we don't listen, or we go in the direction that everyone else is. We're heading in that direction because we're told to focus on just all of the material things, and we lose track, making life harder and more fearful." - Lorna Byrne

In last week's episode of Finding Brave I introduced you to two very special guests who revealed how each of us can ask for, and receive, more spiritual guidance and support each day. In today's conclusion, we dive deeper into how you can create a practice whereby you are actually in conversation with your guardian angels. By doing this, it will allow them to support you in making life easier, and in turn, to live a life filled with more unconditional love.

Lorna Byrne is a world-renowned spiritual teacher, speaker and international bestselling author of Angels in my Hair and seven other books published in more than 50 countries and 30 languages with millions of readers around the world.

In 2019, Lorna was named by Watkins Mind Body Spirit Magazine as one of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People in the World. The people who attend Lorna's worldwide events are very diverse, including theologians and religious leaders, sportspeople, businesspeople and scientists. People of all walks of life, young and old, of all religions and none, are drawn to Lorna to seek her spiritual insight. Many of them say she has given them back hope in their lives. My Guardian Angel, My Best Friend is Lorna's first children's book, a compilation of seven stories introduced and illustrated by her daughter, Aideen Byrne. Aideen Byrne's life was transformed at the age of thirteen with the publication of her mother's first book, Angels in My Hair. Introducing and illustrating the new book My Guardian Angel, My Best Friend is the first step in giving voice to her own experiences of this spiritual journey. Beyond supporting and creating with Lorna, Aideen's passion and career focuses on law and research, particularly access to justice. As Coordinator of the University of Edinburgh Law School's Pro Bono and Clinical Legal Education Department, Aideen develops and maintains their pro bono portfolio, helping people in Scotland and around the globe overcome the justice gap. Committed to encouraging social responsibility in others, Aideen co-founded Probonoskills.com to support law students doing pro bono work with access to high-quality training materials and events.

During this holiday season, I don't think there's a better thing to do than to give yourself a deep infusion of love, self-acceptance and positive energy. I can't wait to hear what you think of this episode, and the enlightening stories and insights from Lorna and Aideen. To learn more about today's guests, visit: https://lornabyrne.com/  & https://www.linkedin.com/in/aideen-byrne/ 

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"That's what it does. If a child can share with their guardian angel, then eventually they will share with mom, dad or someone else that can help them." - Lorna Byrne

Today's episode of Finding Brave has a unique focus from many of my previous shows, as my inspiring special guests and I delve deeply into the topic of spirituality and how we can access spiritual guidance that can transform our lives, work, and relationships. In this first episode of this two-part series, we explore my guests' understanding and insights around how we are not alone in our lives, and that we each have a soul as well as ready access to amazing spiritual and angelic support that comforts, guides and nourishes us. I'm also so excited to talk with my guests about their beautiful new children's book, My Guardian Angel, My Best Friend, that gives both children and adults a pathway to believing and seeing that they have a guardian angel and are always loved and supported.

Lorna Byrne is a world-renowned spiritual teacher, speaker and international bestselling author of Angels in my Hair and seven other books published in more than 50 countries and 30 languages with millions of readers around the world.

In 2019, Lorna was named by Watkins Mind Body Spirit Magazine as one of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People in the World. The people who attend Lorna's worldwide events are very diverse, including theologians and religious leaders, sportspeople, businesspeople and scientists. People of all walks of life, young and old, of all religions and none, are drawn to Lorna to seek her spiritual insight. Many of them say she has given them back hope in their lives. My Guardian Angel, My Best Friend is Lorna's first children's book, a compilation of seven stories introduced and illustrated by her daughter, Aideen Byrne.

Aideen Byrne's life was transformed at the age of thirteen with the publication of her mother's first book, Angels in My Hair. Introducing and illustrating the new book My Guardian Angel, My Best Friend is the first step in giving voice to her own experiences of this spiritual journey. Beyond supporting and creating with Lorna, Aideen's passion and career focuses on law and research, particularly access to justice. As Coordinator of the University of Edinburgh Law School's Pro Bono and Clinical Legal Education Department, Aideen develops and maintains their pro bono portfolio, helping people in Scotland and around the globe overcome the justice gap. Committed to encouraging social responsibility in others, Aideen co-founded Probonoskills.com to support law students doing pro bono work with access to high-quality training materials and events.

From my own perspective, I share here how my beginning religious life failed to give me the sustenance I was longing for, and how what I was being taught felt "wrong" in some core ways. I share how I later developed a new spiritual life that fulfills and supports me in all I do, and how I discovered Lorna's amazing work, and later met Lorna and Aideen and co-hosted a beautiful spiritual retreat with Lorna in Ireland.

If you've ever felt like what you've been told from a religious or spiritual standpoint doesn't fit you, you're not alone. As it has with me, I believe that Lorna and Aideen's work will speak to you too, and give you hope and inspiration. A perfect series for the holiday season, I hope you enjoy this conversation and come back next week to hear the exciting conclusion.

To learn more about today's guests visit: https://lornabyrne.com/  & https://www.linkedin.com/in/aideen-byrne/ 

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"You have employees for a reason. They should be good at doing it, and if you're still doing it, that's a problem. It means that you don't trust your employees, and it means there's a functional issue in your relationship with them. It means they're not living up to their potential, and they could be prone to exit because you're not giving them the ability to get the job done." - Ed Evarts

Micromanagement is common in organizations big and small, which is why it's so important to look at the causes behind it and the things that can be done to reduce its effect on everyone involved. Leadership styles can be positively modified if the individual is motivated to do it, and today's Finding Brave guest reveals how the development of specific leadership skills such as delegation will help create a culture of psychological bravery, which is absolutely critical.

Ed Evarts is the founder and president of Excellius Leadership Development. He is a leadership coach, a team coach, and a business strategist and the author of the book Drive Your Career: 9 High-Impact Ways to Take Responsibility for Your Own Success. He is also a fellow podcaster and host of Be Brave at Work.

We all need to find ways to be braver at work, and the valuable insights that Ed shares in this episode will positively impact your leadership and managerial development, as well as improve your overall work environment.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://www.excellius.com/ 

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"Clarity is oftentimes the best fuel for courage, the best fuel for bravery and the best fuel for stepping into showing up as the person that you want to be, even if you feel like that person is really far away from who you perceive yourself to be in the moment." - Lisa Lewis

When trying to figure out what you truly want in your career, clarity is key. Today's Finding Brave guest shares the framework that she has created to help others understand what it is that they want, even if they're feeling tremendously uncertain in these turbulent times.

Lisa Lewis Miller is a career change expert and the author of Career Clarity: Finally Find Work That Fits Your Values and Your Lifestyle. Her path evolved into career coaching after working in digital marketing for nearly a decade at companies like the American Cancer Society, Teen Vogue, Seventeen, and CBS College Sports. Lisa's work has been featured in The Washington Post, Business Insider, US News and World Report, Fast Company, Refinery29 and more, and she received her coaching certification as one of only 7 coaches in the world trained in the Pivot Method.

So many people struggle right now with how to be clear on what they want and what they're willing to trade to get it. By implementing the strategies that Lisa reveals in this episode, you can immediately start taking action in more empowered ways in your career.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://getcareerclarity.com/ 

As many of us are seeing and experiencing firsthand, we're living in a time of divisive politics and widespread conflict. While these conditions present difficult challenges, it's also an opportunity for growth if we can find the courage and strength to engage in a new way. This is the belief of today's inspiring guest, William Ury, who has dedicated his life to transforming conflicts from destructive impulses into opportunities for collaboration and growth.

William is a renowned negotiator, anthropologist, and bestselling author whose insights and expertise have reshaped the way we approach conflict resolution. Among other top books he's written, he is the co-author of  Getting to Yes, the world's all-time bestselling book on negotiation with more than 15 million copies sold. William has served as a negotiator in many of the most challenging disputes of our time, having consulted for the White House, the State Department, and the Pentagon, as well as dozens of Fortune 500 companies. He is also the co-founder of Harvard's distinguished Program on Negotiation, and has served as a negotiation adviser and mediator in conflicts ranging from Kentucky wildcat coal mine strikes to family feuds, from US partisan battles to wars in the Middle East, Colombia, Korea, and Ukraine. 

His highly-anticipated new book, Possible: How We Survive (and Thrive) in an Age of Conflict, draws on decades of experience to shed light on some of the toughest conflicts of our time and how we can find a way forward.

Today's conversation takes us on a fascinating journey, from William's first interest in negotiation and conflict resolution as a young child, to the central lessons he lays out in his books, to some of his most intense negotiating experiences with key figures, like Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez. We learn about his Pathways to Possible method and how to transform seemingly impossible situations into creative and productive conversations before exploring the concept of self-mastery and engaging the third side in any conflict, and more.

Join us as we explore William's journey and his invaluable insights on navigating both personal and geopolitical conflicts with courage, self-mastery and compassion. Tune in to see conflict in a new light, tap into your innate potential, and approach animosity with curiosity.

Key Points From This Episode:

• Get to know William Ury, how he developed his interest in negotiation, and the many books he's written on the subject. [01:58]

• How to transform conflict and approach it collaboratively rather than destructively. [07:25]

• The state of conflict in the world today and the courageous leadership required to move us forward. [10:55]

• Key differences between geopolitical conflicts and interpersonal conflicts. [15:43]

• The Pathways to Possible method for negotiating and engaging in conflict. [18:46]

• Three kinds of potential we can unlock to transform seemingly impossible situations into creative and productive conversations. [20:25]

• William's account of negotiating with Venezuelan President, Hugo Chavez, in very difficult circumstances. [23:52]

• The self-mastery and learning required to engage the third side in any conflict. [29:55]

• How William prepares for intense conflict (and why he doesn't attempt to do it alone). [34:35]

• The joy that infuses William's work, how to tap into the power of play, and the importance of taking a moment to relax before doing something difficult. [35:44]

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William Ury

William Ury on LinkedIn

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William Ury on TED

Harvard's Program on Negotiation

Possible: How We Survive (and Thrive) in an Age of Conflict

Getting Past No: Negotiating in Difficult Situations

Getting to Yes with Yourself: How to Get What You Truly Want
Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In
Path to Possible

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Quotes:

"My motto is 'meet animosity with curiosity.'" — @WilliamUryGTY [0:19:26]

"I've seen humans at their worst, but I've also seen humans at their best – and I've watched how, in seemingly impossible situations, people have risen to the challenge." — @WilliamUryGTY [0:19:53]

"What I've tried to do in Possible is lay out what I see us doing, which is awakening our own human potential. It's right here. It's not some magic and it's not even a magical person like myself showing up. It's within us all the time." — @WilliamUryGTY [0:20:06]

"The reason why [people find it so hard] to listen to others in difficult situations is they haven't listened to themselves first. They haven't understood and paid attention to their own emotions and thoughts." — @WilliamUryGTY [0:23:34]

"Do not give advice to those who are not open to receiving it." — @WilliamUryGTY [0:29:07]

"What we fail to realize is [that] there's always a third side, which is the friends, the neighbors, the relatives, the co-workers, the colleagues, the community around us that's affected by the conflict." — @WilliamUryGTY [0:31:46]

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"People stand out because they're themselves and they're different from everybody else. They move our emotions and they do something in a really excellent way. We're drawn to people that just have excellence in them, aren't we?" - John Walsh

In a competitive world that presents many difficult challenges to navigate, it's important to stand out in authentic, empowered ways and make a positive impact where you can. And for those who care about making a positive difference, it's important to leave the world in some way better than we found it. Today's inspiring Finding Brave guest has made it his mission to help others do this, by supporting people's standout growth and helping individuals realize that your own success and happiness are directly determined and shaped by you personally, and that you are ultimately responsible for what you create and achieve.

John Walsh is a best-selling author, keynote speaker and entrepreneur with a passion for helping people and businesses accelerate their potential and transform from start to standout as fast as possible. His primary focus is on helping students and young professionals but he also coaches executives and advises emerging businesses. Before he founded the Standout Movement and became the President and CEO of StandoutX, John spent 20+ years as a successful Finance and Strategy executive with The Walt Disney Company and The Madison Square Garden Company. He continues to serve on the Board of Directors for Disney's employee-owned credit union.

It is my hope that John's journey -- from being homeless in high school to a highly successful executive and now entrepreneur -- is inspiring and educational. Both John and I want to help our communities understand that it is very important to give ourselves the flexibility, freedom and confidence to change, so that you can stand out and impact the world in the way only you can.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: https://standoutmovement.com/ 

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"If you clear your head with a stress management technique, maybe you'll be able to hear a solution to a problem that you wouldn't have been able to hear before, because you've got so much going on in your head and you're running from one thing to the other." - Jordan Friedman

In last week's episode and Part 1 of this 2-part series, we explored ways to manage stress during our current pandemic and beyond, but the conversation I had with our expert guest only scratched the surface on this critical topic. That's why I'm so excited to be bringing him back today for a special Part 2, so that we can learn more as we dive deeper into his essential wisdom on stress management.

Every day, Jordan Friedman helps thousands of stressed and anxious people worldwide work, sleep and feel better. He is a pioneer of stress management and wellness promotion, first as director of Columbia University's Health Education Program and now as President of The Stress Coach, a New York-based chill factory that produces acclaimed stress reduction training programs and resources. Motivated by his own deeply inspiring stress-to-success story, Jordan has helped everyone from CEOs and college students to police officers and incarcerated adults.

I gleaned so much from Part 1 with Jordan, that I invited him to provide additional strategies and insights to help us thrive through the most difficult of times. If you haven't already listened to last week's episode, I encourage you to go back and listen by clicking on the link for Episode 150 in the show notes below.

To learn more about today's guest, visit: http://thestresscoach.com/ 

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"It was like the prison door swung open and I was able to see that there were all of these other possible ways of existing, thinking and feeling, but for so long I only knew of one way." - Jordan Friedman

With what is happening in the world right now, it makes sense to talk about how to reduce stress during what is likely one of the most challenging times many of us have ever experienced. Today's Finding Brave guest is an expert on this topic, and he teaches others key techniques and strategies for stress and anxiety reduction. He also believes that not only can we be "stress coaches" for ourselves, but we can do the same for others to improve their lives as well.

Every day, Jordan Friedman helps thousands of stressed and anxious people worldwide work, sleep and feel better. He is a pioneer of stress management and wellness promotion, first as director of Columbia University's Health Education Program and now as President of The Stress Coach, a New York-based chill factory that produces acclaimed stress reduction training programs and resources. Motivated by his own stress-to-success story, Jordan has helped everyone from CEOs and college students to police officers and incarcerated adults.

In this episode Jordan shows us how we really don't have to change our life in major ways to effectively manage our stress and anxiety. What Jordan reveals, I believe, is so transformative that I wanted to share with our listeners as much as we could, so we're offering this special two-part episode. I know that the tips and insights Jordan shares can transform your life, and we both can't wait to hear how you implement these new practices into your day, starting today. And listen in for a very special bonus from Jordan for the first 50 listeners who take part!

To learn more about today's guest, visit: http://thestresscoach.com/