Explore every episode of the podcast Financial Independence Podcast
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| Learning How to Spend Money (While Enjoying Every Dollar Spent) | 14 Nov 2025 | 00:28:15 | |
After decades of saving/investing, it's hard to immediately flip a switch and go into spending mode. Spending is a skill that you should develop on your way to FI, so that you're better at it when the time comes to really do it. Here's what worked for me over the last few years! Highlights
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| Valuable Lessons from My Eighth Year of Freedom | 03 Sep 2024 | 00:19:06 | |
In 2021, I decided to stop doing annual updates. At that time, I thought I had FI figured out and was just living a "normal" life (so no need to talk about it anymore). Well, a lot has changed since then. Turns out, I didn't have everything figured out :/ I explain more in today's short podcast episode! | |||
| Podcast Takeover: The FI Show - Employee vs. Entrepreneur | 01 Oct 2022 | 00:37:21 | |
Cody Berman and Justin Taylor, hosts of the FI Show, have both achieved financial independence but they've taken drastically different paths to get there. Listen to this Podcast Takeover episode to hear the similarities and differences between an employee's path to FI (Justin's) and an entrepreneur's journey to FIRE (Cody's)! Highlights
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| Mad Fientist Jr. - Why I'm Appreciating FI More Than Ever Now | 02 Sep 2022 | 00:11:51 | |
Life has completely changed. And because of this major change, I'm even more grateful for the freedom, flexibility, and time that financial independence and early retirement provide. In this short episode, I fill you in on what's been happening and I discuss the reasons for my newfound appreciation of FI. | |||
| Podcast Takeover: Financial Independence Europe - Effective Altruism | 27 Jun 2022 | 00:51:05 | |
Welcome to another podcast-takeover episode of the Financial Independence podcast! This time, Mathias from the Financial Independence Europe podcast takes over the show to talk to Luke Freeman (from Giving What We Can) and Rebecca Herbst (from Yield and Spread) about Effective Altruism! Highlights
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| The Best Advice from Mr. Money Mustache | 31 May 2022 | 00:14:49 | |
Exactly 10 years ago, I released the first episode of the Financial Independence Podcast! To celebrate this big birthday, I've collected all the best advice from my interviews with my very first podcast guest – Mr. Money Mustache! Highlights
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| Aime to Invest – From Bankruptcy to FI in 8 Years | 25 Apr 2022 | 00:37:28 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I speak to Patrick Aime from Aime to Invest! Patrick's journey to FI is an incredible one. He…
Patrick shares everything he learned during his rollercoaster financial journey so hope you enjoy the interview! | |||
| Podcast Takeover: Mile High FI - Early Retirement Failures & Successes | 28 Mar 2022 | 00:38:25 | |
I'm excited to share with you the first Podcast Takeover episode of the Financial Independence Podcast! Carl and Doug from the Mile High FI podcast take over the Financial Independence Podcast to talk about their early retirement successes and failures. Enjoy! Highlights
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| The Escape Artist - FIRE in the UK | 15 Dec 2021 | 00:53:57 | |
I have some big news… I am now a British citizen! In honor of finally getting my UK passport, and therefore completing this long journey to citizenship, I am releasing my UK FIRE episode. Barney, from The Escape Artist, joined me in my Edinburgh apartment (before the pandemic) to discuss all things related to financial independence and early retirement in the UK. Hope you enjoy it! Highlights
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| Bogleheads - Life After FIRE | 15 Nov 2021 | 00:44:51 | |
Last year, I published an interview with one of my favorite financial writers, Morgan Housel. You may remember that the interview was recorded as part of a Bogleheads meeting and the interview was actually conducted by my buddy, Gouri. Well, Gouri recently invited me to join the Bogleheads to talk about life after FIRE and today's podcast episode is a recording of that discussion! Big thanks to Gouri and the Bogleheads for making this happen and hope you enjoy it! Highlights
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| Fifth (and Final) Annual Update | 20 Aug 2021 | 00:15:38 | |
If you've followed me for a while, you'll know that I've released an annual update every year since I quit my job. It's now been five years since I stopped working so this is my fifth (and final) annual update. Why is it my final one? I explain in today's short episode. Highlights
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| Early Retirement Extreme - A Systems Approach to Lifestyle Design | 19 Jan 2021 | 00:53:36 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I finally got to interview the person who introduced me to the concept of financial independence and early retirement in the first place… Jacob Lund Fisker from Early Retirement Extreme! To my mind, Jacob is the founder of the modern-day "FIRE movement" so hope you enjoy the interview! Highlights
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| The Power of Quitting | 08 Jul 2024 | 00:06:18 | |
Saving up a bunch of money gives you power - power you can use to make your life better and your journey to financial independence quicker. The only way to take advantage of the power though is to use it. Full Article: | |||
| 8 Key Lessons from the Ultralearning Experiment | 02 Oct 2020 | 00:39:02 | |
Last year, I conducted an experiment in Ultralearning that I hoped would help me achieve a lifelong dream of mine of writing and releasing an album. I'm happy to say it was far more successful than I ever imagined it would be! As I mentioned in the initial Ultralearning podcast episode, the hope for the 3-month experiment was that it would accelerate my progress towards my goal and make the process more enjoyable. Well, it did all that and more… I ended up finishing a song during that 3-month experiment and I can't believe it but I just released that single today! Not only did I write a song during the experiment, I continued writing music since then and I now have enough material for an album! Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought this experiment would help me make so much progress but it has! I also describe the new routines the experiment helped me develop and why those new habits have allowed me accomplish more than I ever have before! Highlights
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| Morgan Housel - The Psychology of Money | 10 Sep 2020 | 00:48:57 | |
One of my favorite financial writers, Morgan Housel, is on the Financial Independence Podcast today! I'm not the one conducting the interview this time though (all is explained in the episode). Morgan's insight into how to handle uncertainty, market crashes, and this weird stock boom that we now find ourselves in is invaluable so hope you enjoy it! Big thanks to Gouri, Morgan, and the Bogleheads for making this happen! | |||
| Valuable Lessons from My Fourth Year of Freedom | 07 Aug 2020 | 00:17:53 | |
It's been four years since I left my full-time job and what a crazy year it's been! To celebrate this anniversary and to recap the things I've learned during this last year of post-FI life (and the COVID market crash), I recorded a short podcast episode. | |||
| Coronavirus Market Crash - Is This Time Different? | 16 Mar 2020 | 00:29:09 | |
Bear markets are a normal part of investing but is this time different? As the coronavirus COVID-19 spreads around the world, governments are struggling to limit the economic impact of the disease. In today's unplanned episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, JL Collins (author of The Simple Path to Wealth) joins me to talk about this stock-market crash, how it differs from previous crashes, and what you should do about it. Note: Apologies for the audio quality of this episode. Since this wasn't planned in advance, I didn't have my normal microphone so I had to use the microphone on my iPhone headphones :/ | |||
| Scott Young - Ultralearning | 16 Oct 2019 | 01:01:33 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I'm excited to introduce Scott Young! I first heard about Scott when he decided to complete MIT's entire computer science curriculum in a year. Scott has taken on a lot of these types of impressive learning projects and he just wrote a great book about it – Ultralearning. As you know, I'm attempting to tackle a very intimidating project myself so what better way to kick off that effort than with my own 3-month ultralearning project! In today's interview, we dive into the details of ultralearning and we design a new ultralearning project from scratch. Ultralearning projects seem perfect for anyone who is FI or hopes to achieve financial independence one day so hope you get as much out of this discussion as I did! Highlights
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| Third Year of Freedom | 01 Aug 2019 | 00:20:18 | |
I can't believe it but it's already been three years since I left my full-time job! To commemorate this special anniversary and to recap the things I've learned during this last year of post-FI life (which happened to be the best one yet), I recorded a short podcast episode. | |||
| Ramit Sethi - I Will Teach You to be Rich | 14 May 2019 | 00:54:12 | |
Personal-finance icon Ramit Sethi from I Will Teach You to be Rich joins me for an episode of the Financial Independence Podcast! Ramit first published his New York Times best-selling book, I Will Teach You to be Rich, back in 2009 during the depths of the financial crisis. He just released the second version today so we discuss what's changed in the last decade and also talk about FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) – a concept that's taken the financial world by storm in recent years. This is the first time Ramit has talked about FIRE so it was great getting his opinions on it, especially since he's often thought of as being on the opposite end of the financial spectrum (my first podcast guest, Mr. Money Mustache, has even jokingly referred to him as his "arch-rival in personal finance"). Ramit didn't hold back (does he ever?) so hope you enjoy this one as much as I did! Highlights
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| Cal Newport – Deep Work, Digital Minimalism, and the Key to a Happy Retirement | 05 Mar 2019 | 00:49:18 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I'm very excited to introduce author Cal Newport! I've been a huge fan of Cal's writing for many years so it was a treat to get to talk to him. We explore many important issues related to early retirement that aren't often talked about so if you're thinking about retiring early (or if you already have and are struggling to build the life that you envisioned before leaving work), today's episode is a must-listen! Highlights:
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| Millennial Money - From Broke to Millionaire in 5 Years | 06 Feb 2019 | 00:57:36 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, my buddy Grant from Millennial Money joins me to talk about how he went from having $2.26 in the bank to $1.25 million in just 5 years, 3 months, and 6 days! We dive into the strategies and tactics he used but we also go deeper and discuss some of the unexpected challenges of FIRE. We also explore Grant's new book, Financial Freedom, which is out today and features parts of my own story! Highlights:
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| Tony - Going Back to Work After Early Retirement | 23 Jan 2019 | 00:45:10 | |
It's easy to think that early retirement will be the answer to all your problems. After all, how could you not be happy when you don't have to work anymore? I've written about why early retirement is not a magic bullet but what if it actually makes your life worse? On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I interview a reader named Tony who found this to be the case. He's since decided to go back to the same career he retired from and is enjoying work (and life) more than ever. During the interview, we dive into the overlooked benefits of work and the downsides of early retirement. We also explore serious issues that aren't talked about enough, like depression and mental health. Huge thank you to Tony for sharing his deeply personal story with us. Highlights:
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| Happiness Through Subtraction | 17 Jun 2024 | 00:07:57 | |
If you want to use money to make you happier, stop thinking about what you can buy with it. Instead, think about how you can use it to remove the things in your life that make you unhappy. Full Article: | |||
| Monumental Strength – How to Get Fit (and Actually Enjoy It) | 18 Dec 2018 | 00:47:34 | |
I made two big mistakes when I was pursuing financial independence… The first was I put off happiness until I hit FI. The second was I also put off my health. In today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I chat to my personal trainer, Doug from Monumental Strength. Doug has spent the past two years taking me from a puny computer programmer to a strong, healthy weightlifter! It's been a fantastic journey, with numerous unexpected benefits, so don't wait until FI like I did. Start focusing on your health now and drastically improve your journey to FI (and your life beyond)! Highlights:
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| James Clear - Atomic Habits and Building a New Identity After Retirement | 16 Oct 2018 | 00:50:10 | |
A challenging aspect of early retirement is the loss of identity you may experience when leaving a career you've spent a big chunk of your life building. However, one of the most exciting parts of early retirement is that you have the time, money, and freedom to create a completely new identity! How do you do it though? Today, I had the privilege to speak to the writer who has been most helpful to me as I've started building my own new identity – James Clear. In this episode, we discuss habits, deliberate practice, and how to best create a meaningful and purpose-driven life! Highlights:
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| Travis Shakespeare - Playing with FIRE | 02 Oct 2018 | 01:00:44 | |
If you've been reading about financial independence for a while, you've likely seen that the topic is getting more popular lately. Although FIRE (Financial Independence / Retire Early) is far bigger than it was when I created this site in 2012, it's still nowhere near mainstream. That may change though… A full-length documentary called Playing with FIRE is currently in the works and the film has the potential to reach millions of people that blogs or podcasts never would. This is a huge deal. I was asked to take part in the film and was lucky to get to know the talented people behind the documentary. On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I'm excited to welcome the director and executive producer, Travis Shakespeare! Listen to hear how the documentary came about, discover what Travis has learned about FI after spending the last year creating this film, and find out when you'll be able to see it! | |||
| Chad Carson - Retire Early with Real Estate | 31 Aug 2018 | 01:07:29 | |
Chad Carson from CoachCarson.com joins me again on the Financial Independence Podcast to talk about the various strategies you can use to retire early with real estate! Highlights:
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| Second Year of Freedom | 01 Aug 2018 | 00:18:56 | |
I can't believe it... It's already been two years since I left my full-time job! To celebrate this special anniversary, I decided to release a podcast episode containing my thoughts on my second year of freedom. Find out what a day in my life is like now, hear all the ways early retirement is different than I expected, and discover the most valuable lessons I've learned since leaving my job! | |||
| First Year of Freedom | 30 Jul 2018 | 00:26:54 | |
On August 1st, 2018, it will be exactly two years since I left my full-time job as a software developer. To celebrate, I've decided to release two podcast episodes that contain all the valuable lessons I learned during my first two years of freedom. Today's episode contains everything I learned during my first year and on Wednesday (August 1st), I will release everything I learned during my second year of freedom. It's been a wild ride so hope you enjoy the first of these two episodes! | |||
| Scott Trench - Set for Life | 20 Jun 2018 | 00:40:08 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I'm joined by the president of biggerpockets.com and cohost of the BiggerPockets Money Show, Scott Trench! Scott breaks down the journey to financial independence into three stages and explains what you need to focus on at each step (and why)! Highlights:
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| Marla Taner – Striving for Happiness After Early Retirement | 09 May 2018 | 00:38:02 | |
My good friend Marla Taner joined me on the Financial Independence Podcast to go deep into some early-retirement topics that aren't often discussed. Marla and I met in 2014 at Camp Mustache and we've had a lot of fun (and sometimes heavy) conversations over the years so I thought it'd be great to record one for the podcast! Highlights:
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| Money Talks – Live from the UK Chautauqua with Vicki Robin | 28 Mar 2018 | 00:50:47 | |
Last August, I was down in England with Vicki Robin (author of Your Money or Your Life) for the FI Chautauqua. We were chatting about the new version of the book she was working on (which is out now!) and she mentioned that she created a game called "Money Talks" to go along with the new edition. The card game consists of 52 different cards, each containing a different money question or topic. The idea is, you can use the cards to initiate conversations about money with family, friends, etc. (as you are probably aware, money doesn't often get discussed in real life so this game attempts to change that). I thought it was a great idea so I asked Vicki if she'd be up for playing the game with a handful of Chautauqua attendees and I'd record it for an episode of the Financial Independence Podcast. She agreed and that's what I'm sharing with you today! Big thanks to Vicki Robin for teaching us how to play, to Ettington Park for the fantastic venue, and to Eduardo, Laura, Kimi, Matt, Brandon, Jason, Lena, and Meghan for taking part! | |||
| Elizabeth Willard Thames – Meet the Frugalwoods | 05 Mar 2018 | 01:16:28 | |
Today on the Financial Independence Podcast, I welcome back Liz Thames (a.k.a. Mrs. Frugalwoods)! Liz was last on the show over two years ago and a lot has changed. Since then, she's made her dream of retiring to a homestead in Vermont a reality, she's had two babies, and she's just published a book! It was great to catch up with her to hear about everything that's happened over the last couple of years and to find out whether her early retirement dream is actually as good as she hoped it would be. And since we've become good friends since our last interview, it was fun to challenge her on some of her more "borderline" frugal habits and also share my most embarrissing frugal hack :) Highlights:
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| Bill Perkins - Memory Dividends, Time Buckets, and Maximizing Net Fulfillment | 02 May 2024 | 01:37:41 | |
Out of all the episodes of the Financial Independence Podcast, this is the one I wish I heard when I was on my journey to financial independence. Bill Perkins, author of Die with Zero, joins Chris Hutchins on the All the Hacks podcast to discuss what money is really for – maximizing net fulfillment. This interview is incredible, so I reached out to Chris to ask if I could share it with you all, and thankfully he agreed! Highlights
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| My Brother – Using the Power of Money to Pursue Your Passion | 08 Feb 2018 | 00:41:42 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I interview my little brother while drinking wine next to a canal in Venice! Brian, who is three years younger than me, isn't actively pursuing financial independence but he's done some really impressive things with his money and has used the power that money provides to fully pursue his passions. In fact, he's currently in the middle of a ~6-month mini-retirement and is using the time off to travel and hopefully take his music career to the next level. We dive into a lot of interesting financial topics but we also degenerate into some brotherly chat, which produced classic quotes like this one: "I took my solids elsewhere." Highlights:
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| Chris Hutchins – Why You Should "Retire" Before You Hit Your Number | 19 Dec 2017 | 01:02:00 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I interview a serial entrepreneur who has achieved financial independence three different ways! You'd think that selling a company to Google or buying San Francisco real estate before prices went crazy would be the best way to reach financial independence but that's not been the case for today's guest, Chris Hutchins from Grove. Although he's done all of those things, Chris shares how consistent saving actually impacted his net worth more than anything else. This episode is packed full of useful information, especially if plan to start your own business or want to do something meaningful after early retirement, so hope you enjoy it! Highlights:
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| Physician on FIRE – Geographic Arbitrage, Sunk Costs, and Gangsta Rap | 14 Nov 2017 | 00:19:57 | |
It's been a while since I posted a new Financial Independence Podcast episode but I'm excited to share one with you today! Mr. and Mrs. 1500 from 1500Days.com joined me live at FinCon in Dallas to interview the Physician on FIRE! We sadly only had 25 minutes to record so it's a short interview but it's a fun one. If you ever wanted to hear Mrs. 1500 rap, this episode is definitely for you :) And if you ever wanted to hear what a podcast sounds like when two out of the three hosts are ridiculously hungover, this one is also for you (see if you can figure out which host is the sensible one). I'll be back to my longer, more in-depth interviews soon but for now, I hope you enjoy this wild and entertaining conversation with the Physician on FIRE! Highlights:
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| Michael Kitces – The 4% Rule and Financial Planning for Early Retirement | 31 Aug 2017 | 01:07:26 | |
One of the internet's most-respected retirement researchers and financial planners, Michael Kitces, joins me for an episode of the Financial Independence Podcast! You may remember that my Safe Withdrawal Rate post drew heavily from the incredible research Kitces has done on the topic so it was great to talk to him directly to dive even deeper into important topics related to early retirement. During the interview, we discuss…
If you're worried about figuring out how much you can withdraw from your portfolio after you retire, this episode is for you! Highlights:
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| The Happy Philosopher - Semiretirement and Finding Happiness | 17 Jul 2017 | 00:36:58 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, Jeff from The Happy Philosopher joins me to discuss the unique challenges that doctors and other professionals face on the journey to early retirement. When you invest so much time, money, and energy into your career, it's no wonder that walking away from your job is much more difficult. We discuss alternatives to early retirement, which provide a lot of the same benefits but limit the downsides, and we also dive into ways you can increase your happiness during your journey to FI! Highlights:
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| Mr. Money Mustache – Early Retirement Made Easy (Rebroadcast) | 12 Jun 2017 | 00:33:49 | |
To celebrate the 5-year anniversary of launching the Financial Independence Podcast, I've republished the very first interview I recorded back in 2012 with Mr. Money Mustache. In addition to the original interview, this episode also contains an updated introduction that tells the story behind the interview! Highlights:
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| Think Save Retire - Selling Everything and Retiring to an RV | 16 May 2017 | 00:36:49 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Steve from ThinkSaveRetire.com! Steve initially planned to retire at the age of 40 but after making some drastic lifestyle changes, he ended up walking away from his job at 35. One of the biggest factors that reduced his time to FI was his and his wife's decision to sell nearly everything they owned and move into an Airstream. If you have dreams of spending your early retirement traveling around North America in an RV, this episode is for you! We dive into the costs of RV life, the benefits of drastic downsizing, and Steve's advice for anyone who wants to hit the road after retirement! Highlights:
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| Your Money or Your Life – An Interview with Author Vicki Robin | 05 Apr 2017 | 01:06:28 | |
I can't believe it… One of the founders of the financial independence movement, Vicki Robin, joined me for an episode of the Financial Independence Podcast! Vicki and her partner Joe Dominguez wrote the book, Your Money or Your Life – a New York Times Best Seller that many people consider to be the bible of financial independence (the FI-ble?). Your Money or Your Life is actually what inspired me to create the FI Laboratory many years ago. Vicki has been a driving force in the FI community since the 1960s and has a wealth of knowledge and inspiring stories to share so hope you enjoy the interview! Highlights:
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| Our Next Life - Retiring to a Life in the Mountains | 27 Feb 2017 | 00:41:13 | |
Later this year, at the ages of 38 and 41, the couple behind OurNextLife.com will be quitting the stressful, time-consuming jobs that they've held for most of their adult lives and will be retiring to a life in the mountains. This is particularly interesting to me because one of my dreams is to live on the side of the mountain and get a part-time ski patrol job. Because really, what could be better than waking up early after a big snowfall, grabbing a cup of coffee with your buddies, then strapping on your skis and heading up the mountain to throw bombs and trigger avalanches? Join me for a Financial Independence Podcast interview with Ms. ONL to hear all about this exciting transition to the mountains and to find out what their next life has in store for them! Highlights:
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| The Best Advice from JL Collins | 05 Dec 2023 | 00:39:56 | |
To celebrate the release of JL Collins' new book, Pathfinders, I collected all the best advice from his Financial Independence Podcast interviews! Jim has been on the show three times:
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| Coach Carson - The Simple Way to Retire Early with Real Estate | 20 Jan 2017 | 01:01:25 | |
After delivering an epic guest post on the tax advantages of investing in real estate, I asked Chad Carson from CoachCarson.com to join me on the podcast to hear more about his own experiences with real estate investing. Chad started with only $1,000 in the bank and was able to build up a real estate empire that now consists of over 90 units! It's an incredible story of hard work, intelligent money management, and perseverance so listen to find out how he did it. And if you've ever wanted to know what it felt like to be a full-time real estate investor when the entire housing market collapsed in 2008, hear how Chad survived despite making over 50 acquisitions in 2007 alone! Highlights:
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| Fiery Millennials and Millennial Boss – A Millennial's Guide to FI | 30 Dec 2016 | 00:45:16 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, Gwen from Fiery Millennials and Julie from Millennial Boss join me to talk about millennial finances and what young people should do to reach financial independence as quickly as possible! Highlights:
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| Sane Fientist - My Wife's Thoughts on Financial Independence | 22 Dec 2016 | 00:34:56 | |
On today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast, I interview my wife, Jill! It took a lot of persuading to get her on the show but I'm glad she agreed because her perspective is very different from mine so it was interesting to hear her thoughts on financial independence, early retirement, and this unconventional life we lead! Highlights:
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| Millennial Revolution – Denouncing the Cult of Homeownership | 01 Dec 2016 | 00:44:37 | |
Joining me on today's episode of the Financial Independence Podcast are FIRECracker (Kristy) and Wanderer (Bryce) from Millennial Revolution! Kristy and Bryce exploded onto the scene after a video clip of them attacking the religion of homeownership went viral (it is now the most-viewed and most-shared video on CBC.ca, Canada's largest news website). During our interview, we dive into the viral video, explore why they believe buying a home is usually a terrible idea, and find out what they've been up to after retiring in their early 30s! Highlights:
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