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Plant protein without pretending24 Sep 202600:30:26

What if the future of plant-based food isn't about faking meat, but inventing something entirely new? We go inside a student hackathon at Wageningen University (WUR) and follow the winning concept from whiteboard sketch to test kitchen to campus cafeteria. Along the way, food scientists and student organizers weigh in on the potential for the food industry to not always try to imitate meat.

This episode was produced in collaboration with Wageningen Alt Protein Project (WAPP).

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episode106

Guest

  • Melania Zanforlin, Co-chair WAPP
  • Joaquin Fogel, Co-chair WAPP
  • Dr. Laurice Pouvreau, Senior Protein Scientist at WUR
  • Dr. Stacy Pyett, Program Manager at WUR
  • Andy Bingham, Senior Food Application Scientist and Executive Chef at Kalsec Europe
  • Dr. Raffaella Inchingolo, Lead Food Scientist at Kalsec Europe
  • Dr. Guido Sala, Researcher in food physics and Molecular Gastronomy at WUR

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Melania Zanforlin. Produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.


Bonus. The hidden costs of biosecurity23 Jul 202600:25:44

After the 2018 African Swine Fever outbreak led to the culling of over a hundred million pigs, China moved toward larger, more biosecure, high-rise hog farms. Human geographer Ray Chan takes us inside these operations. He argues that biosecurity isn't only about preventing disease. He calls it a form of governance, deciding whose risk gets prioritized and how both people and animals are expected to behave.

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episode105

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Guest

  • Dr Ray Chan, Human Geographer at Royal Agricultural University

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Bonus. The futures of China's countryside09 Jul 202600:41:55

China's countryside isn't heading toward one future. Sociologist Forrest Zhang walks us through four different scenarios: suburbanizing villages turned tourist destinations, industrial-scale grain belts managed by smart phones, intensive vegetable farms facing a looming labor crisis, and aging villagers returning to subsistence farming. We explore the shift from socialist to capitalist agriculture, and ask whether the next era may take a "sustainability turn,” a door opened by a shrinking population, food oversupply, and a rising public health crisis.

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episode104

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Listen to China's Food Future (Part 1).

Guest

  • Prof Qian Forrest Zhang, Singapore Management University

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.


Bonus. China's food future25 Jun 202600:44:21

China is currently the world's largest importer of agricultural products, buying 60% of globally traded soy. But a 2026 consultation paper by SystemIQ argues China may be approaching a turning point. In the coming decades, China could shift from being a net food importer to net food exporter of animal proteins. We dive into the analysis with the paper's authors to see how plausible that scenario might be, what it would take to get there including the role of alternative proteins in that future, and what might be the implications for global food systems.

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episode103

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Read the consultation paper: China's Food Future (SystemIQ, 2026)

Guests

  • Anna Morser, Director at SystemIQ
  • Alex Andreoli, Manager at SystemIQ
  • Fengwei Ina Liu, Director of FOLU China

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Feeding 1 in 6. Small mighty fish farms11 Jun 202600:50:55

In the 1980s, Deng Xiaoping's government decided not to regulate its fishing sector. What grew out of that space was extraordinary. Today China produces 76 million tonnes of seafood a year, and a mounting environmental cost. This episode follows the small farms and the global infrastructure that connects them, and asks what happens when a government tries to course correct a system it deliberately set loose.

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episode102

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Guests

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Sound mixing by Martin Palmqvist. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Feeding 1 in 6. Who grows the rice03 Jun 202600:43:31

One-third of the world's rice is grown in China, on less than a fifth of the world's rice-growing area, by farmers whose average age is over 55, in a countryside that is slowly emptying. This episode asks how that's possible, and how much longer it can last.

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episode101

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Guests

  • Lena Kaufmann, Social Anthropologist at Université de Fribourg
  • Li Zhang, Prof in Sociology and Environmental Studies at Amherst Colleage

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Sound mixing by Martin Palmqvist. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Feeding 1 in 6. Vertical pork28 May 202600:59:28

Today China produces roughly half the world's pork. Getting there required swine genetics from multiple continents, feed from Brazil, and a disease outbreak that wiped out hundreds of millions of animals. This episode asks how they did it, and what that cost - to the household pig, to the smallholder farmer, and to ecosystems thousands of kilometers away.

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episode100

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Guests

  • Ron Lane, Agricultural consultant in Beijing
  • Li Zhang, Prof in Sociology and Environmental Studies at Amherst College
  • Gustavo Oliveira, Prof in Geography at Clark University

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Sound mixing by Martin Palmqvist. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Feeding 1 in 6. Can you feed the people?21 May 202600:37:46

In sixty years China moved from catastrophic famine to feeding 1.4 billion people. This episode asks how that transformation happened - and what it set in motion.

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episode99

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Guests

Episode written, hosted, produced and edited by Matthew Kessler. Sound mixing by Martin Palmqvist. Music by Blue dot sessions.


Feeding 1 in 6. China and the future of food (Trailer)13 May 202600:01:25

In sixty years, China has moved from catastrophic famine to now feeding one in six people on the planet. Following three foods - pork, rice, and fish - this series traces a transformation that has emptied the Chinese countryside, reshaped ecosystems from Brazil to the South China Sea, and produced the high-rise hog farm model that is being exported across the world. We examine the competing priorities driving this transformation, the distributed costs and benefits, and what it means for the rest of the world.

"Feeding 1 in 6: China and the future of food" arrives in this feed on 21 May 2026.

More info here

US Soy Farmer on “I can only control the things I can control”02 Apr 202600:33:58

Soy looks different depending on where you sit. For Ryan Britt, who's farming soy, corn, wheat and cattle on over 2,000 hectares in North Central Missouri, it's the crop that reliably pays the bills. In 2025, Ryan found himself squarely in the middle of a global trade story he had very little control over. We talk about what he can control on the farm — cover cropping, no-till, rotations — and why he still advocates for farmers even when he'd rather be on a tractor.

Register for the Bolivia soy webinar here

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episode97

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Episode edited and hosted by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Volts: Can fake meat solve climate change?05 Mar 202601:30:03

After several hype years, plant-based and cultivated meat have faced growing skepticism. Lately, the media has written obituaries. And the market value is declining. Bruce Friedrich, founder and president of the Good Food Institute, offers a different view: the long view.

Friedrich joined clean energy reporter David Roberts on the Volts podcast to discuss his new book, Meat: How the Next Agricultural Revolution Will Transform Humanity’s Favorite Food—and Our Future. It’s an honest conversation about a difficult topic, that's well worth listening to. Shared here on Feed with permission.

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episode96

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Subscribe to the Volts podcast

Read Bruce Friedrich's new book: Meat



The meat question05 Feb 202600:19:21

Why can reasonable people look at the same evidence on meat—and still eat very differently? Matthew Kessler shares a personal essay reflecting on his time working on livestock farms, conversations with experts across all sides of the issue, and on his own on-and-off relationship with eating animals.

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episode95

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Episode edited and hosted by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Tangle Essay: What we disagree about when we talk about meat

TABLE Podcast: Meat: the four futures 

TABLE Report: Meat, Metrics and Mindsets 

Agroecology and Sustainable Intensification: the values beneath the science22 Jan 202600:26:01

What does “sustainable agriculture” actually mean, and why do scientists disagree about it? This episode explores how two influential scientific discourses - Agroecology and Sustainable Intensification - start from different values, ask different questions, and often talk past each other. Drawing on an interdisciplinary study at the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences, ecologist Riccardo Bommarco and ethicist Helena Rocklinsberg examine how those different approaches shape research, priorities, and solutions. The conversation turns to what might change when scientists begin to listen to each other across divides.

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episode94

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Episode edited and hosted by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

The future of food retail, made simple11 Dec 202500:34:04

Most industries have a clear roadmap for transformation. The power sector goes renewable. Cars go electric. But food and agriculture? The world’s most impactful—and most damaging—industry still has no shared path to transformation. Food sustainability consultant and retail expert Mike Barry argues that the future of food hinges on one counterintuitive idea: simplification. And he explains how AI, smarter data, and design can potentially speed up change.

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episode93

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Episode edited and hosted by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Can we eat better without paying more?20 Nov 202500:27:01

Instead of tell people what to eat, what if we changed what food costs? With Jörgen Larsson (researcher from Chalmers University), we explore a cost-neutral tax reform, one that makes healthier and climate-friendly food cheaper without raising the overall grocery bill. We break down how it works, why it matters, and how to frame it in ways that avoid predictable backlash.

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episode92

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Episode edited and hosted by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

A three course meal in 205030 Oct 202500:34:16

We invite you to a three course meal in 2050, where climate breakdown has reshaped what and how we eat. Each of the courses is designed to provoke questions about the future of food through taste, visuals, and a bit of discomfort. It’s a story about eating possible futures — and noticing which ones feel delicious, or unsettling. In this episode, we take you behind the scenes of how the meal came together. Bon appétit.

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episode91

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Guests

  • Annie Faye Cheng, Cook, butcher and writer
  • Bryant Simon, History prof Temple University
  • Lily Consuelo Saporta Tagiuri, Ecosystemic Designer and Eco-futurist

Episode hosted by Jack Thompson. Produced by Jack Thompson and Matthew Kessler. Edited and mixed by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Hunger on our doorstop (Part 2)09 Oct 202500:36:13

Hunger on our Doorstep is a two part podcast about food poverty in the UK. It explores the issues and potential solutions through the eyes of three food campaigners with firsthand experience of food poverty in urban communities, as well as others working to tackle the problem. The often bleak picture of poverty, inequality and exclusion painted in episode one contrasts with inspiring stories of the solutions being put into practice across the country in episode two. 

This podcast is produced by TABLE with the support and contribution of the Food Foundation, a charity focused on changing food policy and business practice to ensure everyone, across the UK nations, can afford and access a healthy and sustainable diet. 

For more info, transcript and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/
episode90

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Guests

  • Ryan McShane, Food campaigner
  • Glory Omoaka, Food activist
  • Dominic Watters, Estate2Plate founder
  • Jonathan Pauling, former CEO of Alexandra Rose Charity
  • Dr Effie Papargyropoulou, Researcher at Leeds University
  • Ana María Narváez, Coordinator of 2025 The Broken Plate report

Host

  • Richard Kipling, TABLE
  • Ruth Mattock, TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Richard Kipling, Ruth Mattock and Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Can we change what a society eats? (with Sarah Lake)18 Sep 202500:32:03

What if changing what we eat wasn’t about persuasion, but about reshaping everyday food choices? With Sarah Lake, CEO of Tilt Collective, we explore how meat and ultra-processed foods came to dominate U.S. diets – and how Tilt Collective is building a future where healthy and sustainable foods compete on convenience, price, and accessibility.

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episode89


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Guest

  • Sarah Lake, CEO of Tilt Collective

Episode hosted, edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Why food needs a systems approach (with Corinna Hawkes)04 Sep 202500:24:23

What do Yorkshire beaches, Sierra Leone’s new food strategy, and New York City school lunches have in common? For Corinna Hawkes, they all shaped her journey toward understanding how systems shape food. In this episode, we trace her path from a childhood fascination with shifting sands to her current role at the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization. Along the way, we ask: what does it actually mean to ‘take a systems approach’ to food? What type of leadership skills are needed to fix food systems today? And why do the best solutions sometimes require slowing down, not speeding up?

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episode88

Read the report: Transforming food and agriculture through a systems approach (FAO, 2025)

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Guest

  • Corinna Hawkes, Director of Agrifood Systems and Food Safety at FAO

Episode hosted, edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Hunger on our doorstep (Part 1)31 Jul 202500:38:41

"Hunger on our Doorstep" is a two part podcast about food poverty in the UK. It explores the issues and potential solutions through the eyes of three food campaigners with firsthand experience of food poverty in urban communities, as well as others working to tackle the problem. The often bleak picture of poverty, inequality and exclusion painted in episode one contrasts with inspiring stories of the solutions being put into practice across the country in episode two.

This podcast is produced by TABLE  with the support and contribution of the Food Foundation, a charity focused on changing food policy and business practice to ensure everyone, across the UK nations, can afford and access a healthy and sustainable diet. 

For more info, transcript and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/
episode87

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Guests

  • Ryan McShane, Food campaigner
  • Glory Omoaka, Food activist
  • Dominic Watters, Estate2Plate founder
  • Jonathan Pauling, CEO of Alexandra Rose Charity
  • Dr Effie Papargyropoulou, Researcher at Leeds University
  • Ana María Narváez, Coordinator of 2025 The Broken Plate report

Host

  • Richard Kipling, TABLE
  • Ruth Mattock, TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Richard Kipling, Ruth Mattock and Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions and Pixabay.


What is food solutionism? And why does it limit us12 Jun 202500:40:24

Why are we drawn to simple fixes for the complex challenge of feeding the world sustainably? Researchers Colin Sage (formerly Cork University) and Garrett Broad (Rowan University) unpack what we're calling "food solutionism"—the tendency to promote single, sweeping solutions, whether high-tech or agroecological, while ignoring context and complexity. They argue for "complicating the narrative early and often", so we can move beyond binary thinking and better understand the trade-offs, limits, and realities behind competing visions for the future of food.

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episode86

Read the The Blue Sky Thread that prompted this episode

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Guests

  • Garrett Broad, Rowan University
  • Colin Sage, Cork University

Host

  • Jack Thompson, TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler and Jack Thompson. Music by Blue dot sessions.


Food Systems, Rice and Power in Southeast Asia (with Thin Lei Win)22 May 202500:30:40

Why does Myanmar, often called the "rice bowl of Southeast Asia," continue to struggle with high rates of malnutrition? In this episode, journalist Thin Lei Win helps us unpack how political decisions, land ownership, and regional power dynamics shape food systems in Myanmar and beyond. We explore how issues like palm oil expansion and rice production connect to wider challenges around climate and biodiversity—and why lasting change remains difficult without addressing structural inequalities. Still, there are reasons for cautious optimism. Thin shares why she’s inspired by a new generation of journalists and activists working toward more just and sustainable food futures across Southeast Asia.

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episode85

Check out and subcribe to Thin Ink

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Guest

  • Thin Lei Win, Food and Climate Journalist

Host

  • Jack Thompson, TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler and Jack Thompson. Music by Blue dot sessions.


Is this the future of food? (with Michael Grunwald)10 Apr 202500:47:17

Can humanity feed nearly 10 billion people without frying the planet? That question is at the heart of journalist Michael Grunwald’s provocative argument in Sorry, This Is the Future of Food, his recent New York Times essay and the basis of his forthcoming book, We Are Eating the Earth. He warns that we’re clearing an acre of rainforest every six seconds to grow more food — and even if we quit fossil fuels, we won’t avert climate chaos unless we fix how we use land. In this episode, Grunwald makes the case that high-yield industrial agriculture, for all its flaws, might be our best chance to grow more food on less land. 

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episode84

Pre-order We Are Eating the Earth by Michael Grunwald.

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Guest

  • Michael Grunwald, Journalist and author

Host

  • Jack Thompson, TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler and Jack Thompson. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Perils of Populism and Precarious Promise of Regenerative Agriculture (with Ken Giller)20 Mar 202500:25:12

Can we have more honest conversations about the future of food and agriculture? That’s the plea from Ken Giller, recently retired professor at Wageningen University, after four decades of witnessing both progress and setbacks in supporting farmers worldwide. We discuss the dangers of populist narratives that oversimplify agricultural challenges, how to reshape research incentives to embrace complexity and nuance, why he opposes carbon credit schemes for farmers, and more.

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episode83


Guests

  • Ken Giller, Wageningen University

Host

  • Matthew Kessler, TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

TikTok masculinity and the Tradwife (with Feminist Food Journal)27 Feb 202500:39:20

What else should we consider when shifting to natural, whole foods—beyond just their health benefits? Feminist Food Journal co-founders Isabela Bonnevera and Zoë Johnson explore the deeper questions: whose labor makes these diets possible, who can afford them, and how culture and experience shape our food choices. We dive into these issues and uncover how a simple "natural foods" search on TikTok exposes striking gender dynamics.

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episode82


Guests

  • Isabela Bonnevera, FFJ + ICTA-UAB
  • Zoë Johnson, FFJ + GPPi

Host

  • Jackie Turner, TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

From horses to AI: how fossil fuels shaped agriculture (with Jennifer Clapp)13 Feb 202500:33:32

Is the battle over who controls and owns agricultural data one of the most important—and least discussed—fights in 21st-century farming? In this conversation, Jennifer Clapp (prof at the University of Waterloo and member of IPES-Food) explores the deep ties between fossil fuels and our food system, tracing their influence from fertilizers and pesticides to farm mechanization and digital agriculture. She unpacks how fossil-fueled inputs have shaped—and continue to shape—modern farming. 

For more info and resources, please visit our episode webpage.

Guests

  • Jennifer Clapp, IPES-Food


Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Fuel to Fork is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and the Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Is a Fossil Fuel Free Food System Possible? (Live recording at ORFC)30 Jan 202500:50:49

We gathered in Oxford to ask: Is a fossil free food system possible? 3 panelists: a farmer, an economist and biodiversity researcher, shared their expert perspectives. What technologies are on the horizon? What uncertainties do they bring? Is it better to farm differently, eat differently, plug in better tech, restrain environmentally damaging practices of food and agribusinesses, or all of the above?

Visit the episode webpage for more resources.

This series is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Guests

  • Helen Browning, Soil Association
  • Rupert Simons, SystemIQ
  • Emile Frison, IPES-Food

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Robbie Blake and Chantal Clément. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

View a 90 minute video of the full panel discussion 

Learn more about the Oxford Real Farming Conference
 

7. Transitioning to fossil free food05 Dec 202400:47:38

What would a food system free of fossil fuels look like by 2050? What insights surprised the experts featured in this series? And what trade-offs must we navigate to shape this future? In our final episode, we shift from acknowledging the 'fossil fuel problem in food' to exploring actionable solutions.

Visit the episode webpage for more resources.

This series is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Guests

  • Raj Patel, IPES-Food
  • Anna Lappé, Global Alliance for the Future of Food
  • Darrin Qualman, National Farmers Union (Canada)
  • Galina Angarova, SIRGE
  • Molly Anderson, IPES-Food

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

6. Fossil fuels in our kitchens28 Nov 202400:47:39

Fossil fuels are hiding in plain sight in our kitchens—powering stoves and cooling refrigerators, plus they're fueling supply chains. They shape how we cook, eat and connect with food. In this episode, we explore how to reduce reliance on fossil fuels in home and commercial kitchens. What counts as a 'clean' cooking fuel in Malawi versus the United States? And what would it take to transform the energy grid powering our food systems? Researchers, chefs, and activists weigh in.

Visit the episode webpage for more resources.

This series is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Guests

  • Christa Roth, Cleaner Cooking Coalition
  • Christopher Galarza, Forward Dining Solutions
  • Gabriel Eckhouse, Uppsala University
  • Galina Angarova, SIRGE
  • Nnimmo Bassey, Home of Mother Earth Foundation
  • Errol Schweizer, IPES-Food
  • Georgina Catacora-Vargas, IPES Food

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

5. Ultra-processed foods, plastics, transport21 Nov 202400:54:46

When we talk about the future of food, we usually picture what's growing in the fields or what's on our dinner plates. But maybe we should pay a little more attention to everything happening in between. Processing and packaging consumes the largest share of fossil fuels in our food system— more than 40%. Our growing reliance on ultra-processed foods, and plastics across the supply chain is making food production more energy-intensive than ever before.

Visit the episode webpage for more resources.

This series is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Guests

  • Emma Priestland, Break Free From Plastic
  • Errol Schweizer, IPES-Food
  • Rachel Muncrief, International Council on Clean Transportation
  • Georgina Catacora-Vargas, IPES Food

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Fossil fuels, food, and Columbus’s wicked legacy (with Raj Patel)14 Nov 202400:32:57

What are the hidden costs of our current food system and its deep reliance on fossil fuels, a system that burdens citizens with financial, health and environmental consequences? With Raj Patel, research professor at the University Texas at Austin and IPES-Food panel member, we cover this and Christopher Columbus's wicked legacy, middle-class environmentalism, and what a food system free of fossil fuels could look like.  

We thought this extended interview with Raj Patel was so compelling we wanted to share it in its entirety.

For more info and resources, please visit our episode webpage.

Guests

  • Raj Patel, IPES-Food

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Fuel to Fork is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and the Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

4. Farm machinery, precision agriculture, big data07 Nov 202400:40:01

Fossil fuels are woven into nearly every aspect of modern agriculture - from powering farm machinery to creating plastics and supporting data-driven tech like precision agriculture. But what would it take to reduce or even eliminate their use on farms? We dive into both replacement technologies and transformative food production methods like agroecology, exploring the obstacles and limitations of scaling different solutions.

Visit the episode webpage for more resources.

This series is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Guests

  • Darrin Qualman, National Farmers Union Canada
  • Pat Mooney, IPES Food
  • Jennifer Clapp, IPES Food
  • Swati Renduchintala, CIFOR-ICRAF

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

3. Do we need fossil agrochemicals to feed the world?31 Oct 202400:48:28

Since 2020, over 120 million tonnes of nitrogen fertilizer have been produced annually—a number set to rise by 50% by 2050. It’s easy to assume this is non-negotiable, that without it, we’d face a food crisis. But do we really need all this fossil-based input? As it turns out, there are many ways we can reverse this trend - from curbing overuse and adopting alternative technologies to rethinking our diets and transforming farming practices. We explore a range of options to ease our dependency on fossil fueled agrochemicals.

Register for our webinar: Fossil Fuels and Food Systems: A Policy Discussion for COP29

Visit the episode webpage for more resources.

This series is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Guests

  • Lisa Tostado, CIEL
  • Joanna Larson, Prairie Gates Farm
  • Christine Delivanis, SytemIQ
  • Georgina Catacora-Vargas, IPES Food
  • Mamadou Goïta, IPES 
  • Swati Renduchintala, CIFOR-ICRAF
  • Jennifer Clapp, IPES Food

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

2. The rise of fossil fuels in our food 24 Oct 202400:43:45

How did fossil fuels become so embedded in our food systems? We trace this journey from the industrial extraction of guano, through the game-changing Haber-Bosch process, to today’s globalized food system. Along the way, we uncover the hidden impacts on biodiversity, farmworkers, and our oceans—revealing the true cost of this reliance on fossil fuels.       

In Fuel to Fork, a new podcast series powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and the Global Alliance for the Future of Food, we expose and explore the fossil fuels in our food, speaking to farmers, chefs, food industry experts, scientists and campaigners. Each episode delves deep into a different step of the food supply chain.         

Guests

  • Jennifer Clapp, IPES-Food
  • Darrin Qualman, National Farmers Union Canada
  • Pat Mooney, IPES-Food and Etc Group
  • Navina Khanna, HEAL Alliance
  • Rashid Sumaila, University of British Columbia

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

1. There's fossil fuels in our food?! 24 Oct 202400:37:14

“For many of us, how fossil fuels are integrated across the food chain is highly invisible.”   
When we bite into a juicy apple, barrels of crude oil and natural gas cylinders might not spring to mind. But fossil fuels are the hidden ingredient behind all of our food. For every calorie that ends up on our plates, around 10 calories of fossil fuels are used. From the diesel powering the tractors to the fertilizer in the field and plastic packaging, fossil fuels are the lifeblood of the food industry.     

In Fuel to Fork, a new podcast series powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and the Global Alliance for the Future of Food, we expose and explore the fossil fuels in our food, speaking to farmers, chefs, food industry experts, scientists and campaigners. Each episode delves deep into a different step of the food supply chain.         

Guests

  • Anna Lappé, Global Alliance for the Future of Food
  • Raj Patel, IPES-Food
  • Errol Schweizer, IPES-Food
  • Nnimmo Bassey, Health of Mother Earth Foundation
  • Christine Delivanis, SystemIQ

Produced by Matthew Kessler, Anna Paskal and Nicole Pita. Edited by Matthew Kessler. Audio engineering by Adam Titmuss. Cover art by The Ethical Agency. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Introducing Fuel to Fork16 Oct 202400:00:34

When we bite into a juicy apple, barrels of crude oil and natural gas cylinders might not spring to mind. But fossil fuels are the hidden ingredient behind all of our food. For every calorie that ends up on our plates, around 10 calories of fossil fuels are used. From the diesel powering the tractors to the fertilizer in the field and plastic packaging, fossil fuels are the lifeblood of the food industry.

What are the options to phase out fossil fuels in food and what are the powerful forces standing in the way? To find out, subscribe to Fuel to Fork.

This series is powered by TABLE, IPES-Food and Global Alliance for the Future of Food.

Learn more at https://fueltofork.com/

What biodiversity do you care about?10 Oct 202400:34:46

Are food systems allies or enemies in the fight to save biodiversity? With our planet facing a biodiversity crisis, the answer depends on who you ask and what forms of life we prioritize. We speak with farmers, biophysical modelers, and biologists to explore whether producing food and conserving biodiversity can be achieved at the same time. We also discuss how our diets impact biodiversity, whether farming without soil can be better for biodiversity at large, and what it would take to effectively "shrink" the food system.

For more info, transcript and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/
episode71


Guests

  • Anna Lappé, Global Alliance for the Future of Food
  • Els Hegger, Aardigh
  • Silvia Quarta, La Junquera Farm
  • Bernd Blossey, Assoc Prof at Cornell University
  • Adrian Müller, Research Institute of Organic Agriculture (FiBL) 


Episode edited by Ylva Carlqvist Warnborg and Matthew Kessler. Produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Animal welfare and ethics (with Tamsin Blaxter)05 Sep 202400:49:24

How do philosophers, animal welfare scientists, and farmers differ in their understanding of what a good future for farmed animals looks like? TABLE researcher Tamsin Blaxter discusses the complex relationships between humans and non-human animals and how these connections shape our food choices. We talk about who gets to speak with authority on these topics, the connections between scientific research and animal welfare regulations, and our own experiences with eating and not eating meat. 

Read TABLE explainer: Animal welfare and ethics in food and agriculture (2024)

Register/watch TABLE event Rethinking animals in agriculture: welfare, rights and the future of food (10 September 2024)

For more info, transcript and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode70


Guests

  • Tamsin Blaxter, Writer and researcher at TABLE, University of Oxford


Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Valuing nature in our economies (with Adan Martinez Cruz)22 Aug 202400:28:46

Environmental economist Adan L. Martinez-Cruz (Senior Lecturer at the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences), argues that markets are a fundamental aspect of human society. He suggests that assigning a monetary value to natural resources can provide environmental benefits and create economic incentives to achieve them. In this episode, we discuss concept of non-market valuation, consider whether nature has inherent value, and examine whether markets are the best way to ensure fairness in the cost of food for both consumers and producers.

For more info, transcript and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode69

Guests

  • Adan L. Martinez-Cruz, Environmental Economist at Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler and Ylva Carlqvist Warnborg. Music by Blue dot sessions.

There is no master metric for biodiversity (with Ville Lähde)15 Aug 202400:40:23


Philosopher and environmental researcher Ville Lähde (with the Finnish BIOS Research Unit) argues that we need to understand biodiversity differently at a fundamental level in order to preserve it. Biodiversity loss is much more than the list of extinct and endangered species. In our conversation, we talk about the myriad food systems and their different relationships with biodiversity, what are the hidden costs of simplifying biodiversity, and why Ville feels closest to biodiversity when working with his compost pile.

Read the Life Matters Everywhere essay

For more info, transcript and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode68

Guests

  • Ville Lähde, Philosopher and environmental researcher at BIOS

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler and Ylva Carlqvist Warnborg. Music by Blue dot sessions.



Nature knows best: Naturalness in the Ultra-Processed Foods Debate08 Aug 202400:53:44

The idea that more natural food – food which hasn’t been transformed by human and industrial intervention – is best for us is a powerful one. Psychologists have found a strong preference for that which is “natural”, even when people differ in what they understand that term to mean. But naturalness is a muddle – we are often signalled by advertising to see heavily manufactured foods as “natural”; the pioneers of cereal manufacturing were the greatest advocates of “natural” food in the early 20th century; and it’s rare that crops, which have been manipulated by human breeding over millennia, are seen as “unnatural”.
 
If naturalness is a slippery idea, though, it is still undeniably compelling. At the moment, nowhere is the preference for naturalness when it comes to the food we eat more prevalent than in concerns expressed over ultra-processed foods (UPFs). But does the idea that naturalness is inherently best set up a misleading dichotomy between nature and technology that doesn’t serve the interests of a more sustainable and equitable food future? Does a narrow focus on processing itself misplace bigger questions of power and agency on the one hand, and unhelpfully dismiss scientific techniques on the other?

TABLE writer and researcher Hester van Hensbergen explores these questions in our latest explainer, Nature Knows Best? Naturalness in the Ultra-Processed Foods Debate. She reads it out loud for you on the podcast.

You can find the written explainer here.

Presenting "Less And Better?: Ep 1: Its Complicated"11 Jul 202400:34:11

It feels like one of the biggest questions of our time: what do we do about meat? Rather than choosing either extreme – business as usual, or ruling out meat altogether – some people suggest the best approach is one of ‘less and better meat’. But how much less is ‘less’? And which meat is ‘better’? How do we even begin to answer these questions?

"Less and Better?" is an eight-part podcast series co-hosted by Katie Revell and Olivia Oldham at Farmerama Radio. Listen to the rest of the series here or wherever you get your podcasts.

More info, resources and transcript can be found here.

Women Scientists from Global South on Food Security (Part 3)27 Jun 202400:25:53

500 scientists from 60 countries gathered at the 5th Global Food Security Conference in Leuven, Belgium. Instead of saying, "you had to be there," we bring you voices and reflections from the conference. Host Matthew Kessler recorded dozens of interviews, asking experts what key messages they want to deliver to those with the power to change food systems, what are the economics of food systems transformation, and which solutions to make food systems more resilient deserve more attention.

This is Part 3 of a 3-part series, featuring six of the seven women scientists from the Global South awarded the 2023 OWSD-Elsevier Foundation Awards. This year's focus was on Food security. This episode was made with the support from ‘shout it out’, an instrument of the Global Minds program.

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode65

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Guests

  • Carla Fabiana Crespo Melgar, Researcher at Universidad Mayor de San Andrés
  • Eugenie Kayitesi, Prof at University of Pretoria
  • Yeyinou Laura Estelle Loko, Researcher at the National University for Science, Technology and Mathematic in the Republic of Benin
    Munkhjargal Tserendorj, Researcher at Mongolian University of Life Sciences
  • Renuka Attanayake, Prof at University of Kelaniya
  • Haneen Dwaib, Chairwoman of Clinical Nutrition and Dietetics Department at Palestine Ahliya University

Conference Organizers

  • Elsevier
  • KU Leuven
  • Wageningen University and Research
  • TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Economics of Food System Transformation (Part 2)13 Jun 202400:40:20

500 scientists from 60 countries gathered at the 5th Global Food Security Conference in Leuven, Belgium. Instead of saying, "you had to be there," we bring you voices and reflections from the conference. Host Matthew Kessler recorded dozens of interviews, asking experts what key messages they want to deliver to those with the power to change food systems, what are the economics of food systems transformation, and which solutions to make food systems more resilient deserve more attention.

This is Part 2 of a 3-part series, made with the support from ‘shout it out’, an instrument of the Global Minds program.

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode64

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Guests

  • David Laborde, Director of the Agri-food Economics and Policy Division at FAO
  • Charlotte Janssens, Researcher at KU Leuven
  • Koen Deconinck, Economist in Trade and Agricultural Directorate at OECD
  • Steven Lord, Researcher at U Oxford
  • Purnima Menon, Sr Director for Food and Nutritional Policy at IFPRI
  • Ewout Frankema, Prof at Wageningen U

Conference Organizers

  • Elsevier
  • KU Leuven
  • Wageningen University and Research
  • TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Is Global Food Security a Solvable Puzzle? (Part 1)30 May 202400:32:40

500 scientists from 60 countries gathered at the 5th Global Food Security Conference in Leuven, Belgium. Instead of saying, "you had to be there," we bring you voices and reflections from the conference. Host Matthew Kessler recorded dozens of interviews, asking experts what key messages they want to deliver to those with the power to change food systems, what are the economics of food systems transformation, and which solutions to make food systems more resilient deserve more attention.

This is Part 1 of a 3-part series, made with the support from ‘shout it out’, an instrument of the Global Minds program.

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode63

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Guests

  • Martin van Ittersum, Conference co-chair, Professor at Wageningen University
  • Tessa Avermaete, Conference co-chair, Project Manager at KU Leuven
  • Ramya Ambikapathi, Scientific committee member, Senior Researcher at Cornell U
  • Gerard Govers, Programme committee mebmer, Vice-rector of Science, Engineering and Technology and Vice-rector of Sustainability at KU Leuven
  • Joanna Trewern, Conference Keynote, Director of Partnerships and Institutional Engagement at Pro Veg International
  • Maitre d’hotel at Coeur Catering, responsible for food served at the conference

Conference Organizers

  • Elsevier
  • KU Leuven
  • Wageningen University and Research
  • TABLE

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Is cultivated "meat" unnatural? Is meat today natural? (with Cor van der Weele)09 May 202400:36:03

While many wonder about the technological hurdles preventing cultivated meat from entering commercial markets, fewer ask a more basic question: will people actually eat it, or will they find it too unnatural? In this episode, we're joined by Cor van der Weele, emeritus professor in philosophy from Wageningen University, who has had a front-row seat to the past 15 years of shifting perceptions of this technology. We'll dive into how a philosopher thinks about “naturalness”, what are the public concerns and the idealistic visions of a cultivated meat future, and why mixed feelings about this innovation could be a healthy sign of progress. 

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode62

Guests

  • Cor van der Weele, Professor Emeritus Endowed Chair at Wageningen University.

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Does CRISPR make our food unnatural? (with Lauren Crossland-Marr)02 May 202400:29:38

If more and more gene-edited foods become common on our plates, is that a sign of a promising or worrying food future?  With Dr. Lauren Crossland-Marr, food anthropologist and host of the podcast A CRISPR Bite, we unpack whether it’s fair to call CRISPR a natural way of "speeding up the breeding" process, whether technological innovations such as gene editing are addressing root causes of food systems challenges, and if there’s space for middle ground on such a polarizing issue.

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode61

Guests

  • Lauren Crossland-Marr, Assistant Professor at the University of La Verne

Resources

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.



What's a natural diet? (with Richard Tellström)25 Apr 202400:18:43

What influences the meals we enjoy today? Meal historian and cultural researcher Richard Tellström from Stockholm University suggests that the surrounding natural environments and ecosystems only play a minimal role. Instead, he argues that our choices are primarily shaped by cultural, political and economic forces. This episode dives into the dramatic shifts in Swedish diets over the past century, highlighting how changes such as new food preservation methods in the 1970s, Sweden's entry into the European Union in the 1990s, and shifting cultural trends throughout have redefined what's fashionable, and therefore possible, to eat. 

This is the second installment of a two-part series, following our first episode with archaeological chemist Amy Styring who investigates what our ancestors ate during periods of significant societal transitions. Listen to Part 1.

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode60

Guests

  • Richard Tellström, Associate Professor at Stockholm University

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

What's a natural diet? (with Amy Styring)18 Apr 202400:25:37

Around 6000 years ago in Northwest Europe, our ancestors transitioned from hunter-gatherer societies to sedentary farming. How did their diets change during this time? The field of archaeological sciences and chemistry teamed up to shed new light on this question.

In this episode, we ask Amy Styring, archaeological chemist at the University of Oxford, what's her take on a natural diet, whether we overestimate the role of meat in our past diets, and what lessons can we learn today if we have a better understanding of how people produced and ate food in the past?

This is the first of a two-part series. Next week we hear from a meal historian on the role culture plays in informing what we eat.

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode59

Guests

  • Amy Styring, Associate Professor at the University of Oxford

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

Can we eat enough white-tailed deer to restore forest ecosystems?11 Apr 202400:31:08

Is it possible to eat enough white-tailed deer to keep their populations low enough to restore ecosystems? We posed this question to Bernd Blossey, professor at Cornell University who specializes in the management of invasive species and the restoration of disrupted ecological relationships.

In this episode, we look at the history of white-tailed deer in the eastern forests of the United States, how many we would need to harvest to keep the population in check, and whether the concept of ecosystem balance is scientific or a fantasy.

This is the third and final part of our series exploring whether we can eat our way out of the problems we’ve created. Let us know what you think by sending us an email or a voice memo to podcast@tablededebates.org.

For more info and resources, visit: https://tabledebates.org/podcast/episode58

Guests

  • Bernd Blossey, Professor at Cornell University

Episode edited and produced by Matthew Kessler. Music by Blue dot sessions.

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