Could Manchester City go unbeaten and still be relegated?
Henry Winter was at Anfield for Manchester City's extraordinary 3-0 win over Liverpool. But with City found guilty of serious financial breaches by an independent commission, and their appeal still pending, one question hangs over the Premier League: what happens to the football if everything changes off the pitch?
Tim Vickery and Henry Winter debate City's future, the atmosphere at Anfield and why the club's financial controversy raises bigger questions about English football.
Across Manchester, things aren't much happier. Lisandro Martínez has publicly challenged Manchester United's leadership, putting Jason Wilcox, Jim Ratcliffe and the club's recruitment strategy under the spotlight. Have United's owners left Michael Carrick fighting a battle he cannot win?
The conversation then moves to the relationship between football and gambling. Tim explains why he refuses betting sponsors and reveals how Brazil's emergency betting ban is affecting its clubs, its politics and its people.
They also look ahead to the 2027 Women's World Cup in Brazil, Marta's extraordinary legacy, Euro 2028 and the rising cost of watching international football.
Tim Vickery in Brazil. Henry Winter in England. Two perspectives on the beautiful game.
This is Futebol & Football, Episode 8, on FC Camisa.
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