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Like everyone else, alcoholics and addicts have a deepdesire to form meaningful and intimate relationships - and yet many of us in recovery face real difficulties in this area of our lives. Bill Wilson wrote about our having formed “twisted and broken relationships” and noted sadly, “We are people who normally would not mix.”

This four-part series explores why human relationships areimportant, some of the reasons they prove so difficult for addicts, and how we might build healthier relationships going forward.

Fr. Bill’s guest is Marriage and Family Therapist Tom Lavinwho brings a wealth of experience in working with 12-Steppers ready to grow in this challenging area of recovery.

In this first episode, discussion centers the importance ofhealthy relationships and some of the unique challenges addicts in recovery may face. At times these hurdles may appear insurmountable but fortunately, we’re gifted with a “miracle program.”

Show notes:

Contact Info: Please send your questions, experiences, or comments in confidence to: TwoWayPrayer@Gmail.com

My First Forty Years Bill Wilson shares recollections of his painful childhood.

Steven Hayes, PhD TED talk on Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACES): How to Turn Pain into Purpose

Affluenza: America’s Addiction to Buying More Stuff by John De Graff

Mate’s Book: In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts

Diagnosing and Treating Codependence by Dr. Timmen L. Cermak (used books)

Bill Wilson credits his1934 “white light experience” in Towns Hospital as the start of his psychic change and spiritual transformation. Bill experienced nothing short of a taste of the divine. It also began Bill’ssearch for ways other alcoholics might experience similar altered states of consciousness – states powerful enough to jump-start their recovery journey.

In the mid 1950s Wilson experimented with LSD and began a life-long friendship with two of its major proponents: Aldous Huxley and Gerald Heard. In the first episode of this series, I interviewed Don Lattin, author of Distilled Spirits. His book traces the relationship of these three men over the years.

In this second episode, I interview Matt D. from the 12-Step Fellowship All Addicts Anonymous (AAA). Matt’s knowledge of Bill Wilson’s LSD interest and involvement comes from his personal experience with AAA’s co-founders and draws from the group’s extensive archives.

Recently, there’s been renewed interest among researchers in the use of psychedelic drugs in the treatment of depression as well as addiction. Our discussion expands on Wilson’s LSD history and includes warnings for those who might seek a shortcut to spiritual transformation.    

Show notes:

·       Link to All Addicts Anonymous https://alladdictsanonymous.org/

·       Pharmacolatry: (Drug Worship) The Religion of the Present Age

·       Article, The Search for Ecstacy by Gerald Heard printed in the aa Grapevine

Bill Wilson credits his1934 “white light experience” in Towns Hospital as the start of his psychic change and spiritual transformation. Bill experienced nothing short of a taste of the divine. It also began Bill’s search for ways other alcoholics might experience similar altered states of consciousness – states powerful enough to jump-start their recovery journey.

In the mid 1950s Wilson experimented with LSD and began a life-long friendship with two of its major proponents: Aldous Huxley and Gerald Heard. In the first episode of this series, I interviewed Don Lattin, author of Distilled Spirits. His book traces the relationship of these three men over the years.

Recently, there’s been renewed interest among researchers inthe use of psychedelic drugs in the treatment of depression as well as addiction. Our discussion expands on Wilson’s LSD history and includes warnings for those who might seek a shortcut to spiritual transformation.    

Show notes:

·       All Addicts Anonymous https://alladdictsanonymous.org/

·       Pharmacolatry: (Drug Worship): The Religion of the Present Age

·       Article by Gerald Heard / The Search for Ecstacy printed in the Grapevine

Years before AA existed, Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist, sent his patient Rowland H. in search of a spiritual solution for his alcoholism. Since then, millions have followed in his footsteps. Bill Wilson corresponded with Jung thanking him for his contribution to AA and many in the fellowship, including Wilson himself, benefitted from the “depth” or “analytical” psychology practiced by Jung’s professional followers. But therein lies a problem. 

The Jungian form of treatment is both lengthy and costly, often far out of reach for most addicts. But can a person in 12-Step recovery experience in-depth transformation without benefit of a trained analyst - and can it aid in enriching their recovery journey? 

In this series, Fr. Bill explores an essay titled “The Aims and Goals of Jungian Analysis” as it appears in a book edited by Dr. Murray Stein. By substituting the word “RECOVERY” for “ANALYSIS” the outlines of a journey very similar to the one Jung pointed his patient toward comes into clearer view. At least that’s the hope for this series!

In this fourth and final episode Dr. Stein joins Fr. Bill to review the goal and aims of Jungian analysis while discussing how those in 12-Step recovery might best achieve similar outcomes. 

Show notes:

• Murray Stein Website: https://www.murraystein.com/wp/

• Jungian Analysis, edited by Murray Stein. The work contains 18 essays on specific aspects of Jungian analysis written by top Jungian analysts. It probably goes deeper than many might be prepared to venture but it’s well worth the stretch. 

• A later edition of Murray’s book is titled The Practice of Jungian Analysis.

• Other books mentioned in the interview:

The Four Pillars of Jungian Psychology by Murray Stein

The Red Book by C.G. Jung

In Midlife by Murray Stein

Answer to Job by C.G. Jung

Anthropology in Rituals by Arnold van Gennep

        Memories, Dreams, and Reflections by C.G. Jung

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=memories+dreams+and+reflections+jung&adgrpid=1345802804287582&gb=2&hvadid=84112913849870&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvexpln=0&hvlocphy=73736&hvnetw=o&hvocijid=14353318104339091787--&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-84113035825589%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=22597_13494434&mcid=3aedab33d3cb33fdbf22422bb9d92ab4&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_69y2chwway_e

The Psychology of the Transference by C.G. Jung

Jung’s Map of the Soul by Murray Stein

Years before AA existed, Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist, sent his patient Rowland H. in search of a spiritual solution for his alcoholism. Since then, millions of us have followed in his footsteps. Bill Wilson corresponded with Jung thanking him for his contribution to AA and many in the fellowship, including Wilson himself, benefitted from the “depth” or “analytical” psychology practiced by Jung’s professional followers. But therein lies a problem. 

The Jungian form of treatment is both lengthy and costly, often far out of reach for most addicts. But can “DEPTH RECOVERY,” to coin a phrase, be experienced without benefit of a trained analyst and can it aid in enriching a recovery journey?

In this series, Fr. Bill explores an essay titled “The Aims and Goals of Jungian Analysis” as it appears in a book edited by Murray Stein. By substituting the word “RECOVERY” for “ANALYSIS” the outlines of a journey very similar to the one Jung pointed his patient toward comes into clearer view. At least that’s the hope for this series!

In this third episode, Stein lays out the goal of analysis and lists ways for bringing it about. Fr. Bill identifies ways a person in deep 12-Step recovery might achieve very similar outcomes. 

NOTE: Murray Stein, the author of the essay under discussion will join Fr. Bill for the fourth and final episode in this series.

Show notes:

• Jungian Analysis, edited by Murray Stein. The work contains 18 essays on specific aspects of Jungian analysis written by top Jungian analysts. It probably goes deeper than many might be prepared to venture but it’s well worth the stretch. (USED COPIES ARE AFFORDABLY PRICED.)

• Inner Work by Robert A. Johnson

• The Power of Two Way Prayer by Father Bill W.

Years before AA existed, Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist, sent his patient Rowland H. in search of a spiritual solution for his alcoholism. Since then, millions of us have followed in his footsteps. Bill Wilson corresponded with Jung thanking him for his contribution to AA and many in the fellowship, including Wilson himself, benefitted from the “depth” or “analytical” psychology practiced by Jung’s professional followers. But therein lies a problem.

The Jungian form of treatment is both lengthy and costly, often far out of reach for most addicts. But can “DEPTH RECOVERY,” to coin a phrase, be experienced without benefit of a trained analyst and can it aid in enriching a recovery journey?

In this series, Fr. Bill explores an essay titled “The Aims and Goals of Jungian Analysis” as it appears in a book edited by Murray Stein. By substituting the word “RECOVERY” for “ANALYSIS” the outlines of a journey very similar to the one Jung pointed his patient toward comes into clearer view. At least that’s the hope for this series!

In this second episode, Stein outlines the four stages of psychic change expected over the course of analysis. They closely parallel the road we travel in deep 12-Step recovery.

Murray Stein, the book’s editor and the author of the essay under discussion will join Fr. Bill for the final episode in this series.

Show notes:

·      Jungian Analysis, edited by Murray Stein. The work contains 18 essays on specific aspects of Jungian analysis written by top Jungian analysts. It probably goes deeper than many might be prepared to venture but it’s well worth the stretch. (USED COPIES ARE AFFORDABLY PRICED.)

Years before AA existed, Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist, sent his patient Rowland H. in search of a spiritual solution for his alcoholism. Since then, millions of us have followed in his footsteps. Bill Wilson corresponded with Jung thanking him for his contribution to AA and many in the fellowship, including Wilson himself, benefitted from the “depth” or “analytical” psychology practiced by Jung’s professional followers. But therein lies a problem. 

The Jungian form of treatment is both lengthy and costly, often far out of reach for most addicts. But can “DEPTH RECOVERY,” to coin a phrase, be experienced without benefit of a trained analyst and can it aid in enriching a recovery journey?

In this series, Fr. Bill explores an essay titled “The Aims and Goals of Jungian Analysis” as it appears in a book edited by Murray Stein. By substituting the word “RECOVERY” for “ANALYSIS” the outlines of a journey very similar to the one Jung pointed his patient toward comes into clearer view. At least that’s the hope for this series!

Murray Stein, the book’s editor and the author of the essay under discussion will join Fr. Bill for the final episode in this series.

Show notes:

• Jungian Analysis, edited by Murray Stein. The work contains 18 essays on specific aspects of Jungian analysis written by top Jungian analysts. It probably goes deeper than many might be prepared to venture but it’s well worth the stretch. (USED COPIES ARE AFFORDABLY PRICED.)

Many cultures develop rites of passage specifically designed to help a boy transition into manhood. It’s a difficult and dangerous journey, many get lost along the way, and a detour into alcohol and drugs only compound and delay it. Sadly, some never make it.

This series explores the book “HE” written by Jungian analyst Robert A. Johnson. It centers on the medieval myth “the Search for the Holy Grail,” as young Parsifal goes in search of what it takes to become a man – a man in service to a Power greater than himself. 

Fr. Bill is joined by fellow spiritual seekers and “12-Step Knights of the Roundtable” James R, PhD, a college English professor from Alaska and Fr. James R. an Episcopal priest and scientist from Florida.  As the trio follow Parsifal on his journey they’ll share some of their own experiences and strengths, along with the dragons they met along the way. Please note, this series is as much for women as for men since the inner masculine resides in the psyche of both sexes.

Episode four concludes this series. Parsifal failed in his first attempt at the Grail Castle but years of wandering and succeeding at the more mundane tasks of life have left him hungering for a return. Johnson calls these, a man’s “Dry Years.” Parsifal is aided by two more characters: a Hideous Damsel and an Inner Hermit.

The panel “sums up” this “Journey from Boy to Man” especially as applied to those of us in recovery.

Show notes:

·      HE by Robert A. Johnson

·      TRANSFORMATION by Robert A. Johnson 

·      RECOVERY WRITINGS by James Ryan

·      StepStudy.org website https://stepstudy.org/

Many cultures develop rites of passage specifically designed to help a boy transition into manhood. It’s a difficult and dangerous journey, many get lost along the way, and a detour into alcohol and drugs only compound and delay it. Sadly, some never make it.

This series explores the book “HE” written by Jungian analyst Robert A. Johnson. It centers on the medieval myth “the Search for the Holy Grail,” as young Parsifal goes in search of what it takes to become a man – a man in service to a Power greater than himself. 

 Fr. Bill is joined by fellow spiritual seekers and “12-Step Knights of the Roundtable” James R, PhD, a college English professor from Alaska and Fr. James R. an Episcopal priest and scientist from Florida.  As the trio follow Parsifal on his journey they’ll share some of their own experiences and strengths, along with the dragons they met along the way. Please note, this series is as much for women as for men since the inner masculine resides in the psyche of both sexes.

Episode three brings Parsifal to the Grail Castle. Discussion centers on what it means for a man to enter the castle, the things that keep him from entering or maintaining the experience gained, and what are the consequences of losing access to the Castle.

Show notes:

·  HE by Robert A. Johnson 

·  RECOVERY WRITINGS by James Ryan

·  StepStudy.org website https://stepstudy.org/

Many cultures develop rites of passage specifically designed to help a boy transition into manhood. It’s a difficult and dangerous journey, many get lost along the way, and a detour into alcohol and drugs only compound and delay it. Sadly, some never make it.

This series explores the book “HE” written by Jungian analyst Robert A. Johnson. It centers on the medieval myth “the Search for the Holy Grail,” as young Parsifal goes in search of what it takes to become a man – a man in service to a Power greater than himself.  

Fr. Bill is joined by fellow spiritual seekers and “12-Step Knights of the Roundtable” James R, PhD, a college English professor from Alaska and Fr. James R. an Episcopal priest and scientist from Florida.  As the trio follow Parsifal on his journey they’ll share some of their own experiences and strengths, along with the dragons they met along the way. Please note, this series is as much for women as for men since the inner masculine resides in the psyche of both sexes.

Episode two explores the challenges a young boy faces as he sets out on his journey to manhood. Here he meets a cast of inner characters: his instincts (the Red Knight), his inner feminine muse (Blanche Fleur), his spirit guide and mentor (Gournamond), all as he avoids being trapped by the remnants of his mother-complex (Heart’s Sorrow).

Show notes:

·      HE by Robert A. Johnson 

·      RECOVERY WRITINGS by James Ryan

·      StepStudy.org website https://stepstudy.org/

Many cultures develop rites of passage specifically designed to help a boy transition into manhood. It’s a difficult and dangerous journey, many get lost along the way, and a detour into alcohol and drugs only compound and delay it. Sadly, some never make it.

This series explores the book “HE” written by Jungian analyst Robert A. Johnson. It centers on the medieval myth “the Search for the Holy Grail,” as young Parsifal goes in search of what it takes to become a man – a man in service to a Power greater than himself.  

Fr. Bill is joined by fellow spiritual seekers and “12-Step Knights of the Roundtable” James R, PhD, a college English professor from Alaska and Fr. James R. an Episcopal priest and scientist from Florida.  As the trio follow Parsifal on his journey they’ll share some of their own experiences and strengths, along with the dragons they met along the way. Please note, this series is as much for women as for men since the inner masculine resides in the psyche of both sexes.

Episode one introduces the panel and explores the nature of myth and the soul’s inner search for wholeness.

Show notes:

·      HE by Robert A. Johnson

·      RECOVERY WRITINGS by James Ryan

·      StepStudy.org website https://stepstudy.org/

Steps 3 and 11 frame the vision for a wholly new way of life. It’s one lived, not under the direction of the ego but under the guidance and direction of a Power greater than ourselves. But the ego still has a role to play and that’s through the right use of the will. The purpose of the will is: TO BE WILLING!

In this series, Fr. Bill explores a talk delivered by Quaker mystic Thomas R. Kelly. It’s titled HOLY OBEDIENCE. There’s a free pdf link in the show notes below. It’s also one of several essays found in Kelly’s book A Testament of Devotion. It makes for great reading in a morning Quiet Time. But a word of caution. Read it slowly; it’s a lot of truth for a poor ego to swallow all at once!

Show notes:

Holy Obedience by Thomas R. Kelly

https://quaker.org/legacy/pamphlets/wpl1939a.html

A Testament of Devotion by Thomas R. Kelly with an Introduction by Richard J. Foster

Steps 3 and 11 frame the vision for a wholly new way of life. It’s one lived, not under the direction of the ego but under the guidance and direction of a Power greater than ourselves. But the ego has a role to play and that’s through the right use of the will. The purpose of the will is: TO BE WILLING!

In this series, Fr. Bill explores an essay by Quaker mystic Thomas R. Kelly titled HOLY OBEDIENCE. There’s a free pdf link in the show notes below. It’s also one of several articles found in Kelly’s book A Testament of Devotion. It makes for great reading in a morning Quiet Time. But a word of caution. Read it slowly; it’s a lot for a poor ego to swallow all at once!

Show notes:

Holy Obedience by Thomas R. Kelly

https://quaker.org/legacy/pamphlets/wpl1939a.html

A Testament of Devotion by Thomas R. Kelly with an Introduction by Richard J. Foster

In the episode Fr. Bill shares some experience and advice for keeping the 12-Step program simple and alive. If you’re a long-term listener, you probably won’t find much new here, but hopefully hearing the simple recovery message in simple language can start the recovery juices flowing again.

Show notes: 

The Will of God and a Man’s Life Work by Henry B. Wright 

The Power of Two Way Prayer

We all know the saying, “You have to give it away to keep it.” That idea may be especially true of the practice of Two Way Prayer. Listening for God’s guidance was at the center of the transformative practices of the Oxford Group, and those of us who have been fortunate enough to rediscover it have a responsibility to share it with others. One way of passing it on may be starting a Two Way Prayer Group.

In this episode, Fr. Bill shares his experience in doing this. Even if you’re not ready to start a group of your own, you’ll probably find the information helpful. But if you are willing to take the leap of faith it requires to start a group, you’ll find it indispensable.

Show notes:

A suggested meeting format. (attached)

The Power of Two Way Prayer by Father Bill W.

TWP Workshop/Video

twowayprayer.org

Most in recovery know that Henrietta was the woman who answered a phone call from Bill Wilson and put him in touch with Dr. Bob; but there’s a whole lot more to her story than that.

In this episode Fr. Bill interviews Julie Frye who served for ten years as curator of the Seiberling mansion and gatehouse and knows more about Henrietta than most anyone alive.  As Founder’s Day approaches, come learn more about this amazing woman and the critical role she played in the birth of Alcoholics Anonymous.

Show Notes:

PowerPoint Presentation of Stan Hywet Hall & Gardens with Julie Frye

Anne Smith’s Journal

The Cleveland Symphony Orchestra

https://www.clevelandorchestra.com/

In this short episode, Fr. Bill reflects on a brief recording of Bill Wilson’s unsuccessful attempts to return to the original 12 Step wording of “spiritual experience” over “spiritual awakening.”  He also comments on Fr. Dowling’s words to the 20th Anniversary Gathering of AA in St. Louis where he said, “Istill weep that the elders of the movement have dropped the word ‘experience’ for ‘awakening.’”  No need to weep, but it’s good information to know.

Show notes:

Father Ed by Dawn Eden Goldstein

Bill Wilson's recorded commentary on "Experience"

Throughout his life, Father Ed was attracted to those who suffered - and since AA describes itself as “a program of attraction,” there’s little wonder this Jesuit priest was drawn to 12-Step members from the Program’s earliest days. In 1940, Dowling saw a troubled man recover from the depths of alcoholic despair and soon after witnessing this miracle he traveled to New York to meet AA’s co-founder, Bill Wilson. He wanted to learn how AA worked.

Thus began a spiritual friendship between two men that continued throughout Fr. Ed’s life. Bill later wrote of Ed, “He became just about the closest friend I shall ever have - and my spiritual advisor, too. He took me through some of my rough going, which, without his counsel and love, I might never have survived.”

Fr. Bill interviews Dawn Eden Goldstein, author of a new and much needed biography of Father Ed. Her book is a “must read” for those interested in AA history and will prove a valuable study guide for anyone wanting to discover the love of God that lies at the heart of every genuine 12-Step recovery. 

Show notes:

Father Ed by Dawn Eden Goldstein

Dawn Eden contact:  https://dawneden.blogspot.com/

"...and Bill described this in front of Father Ed atthe AA Comes of Age Conference in St Louis in 1955, you can hear Bill'sintroduction and Father Ed's address on YouTube."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQYhXb4eNEU

www.twowayprayer.org

This series address what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us humans – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine?

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation.

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation.

In this episode Bill and Fr. James explore the final two chapters of John Caputo’s book What to Believe?  Chapters focus on the Nature of Real Love and How It Relates Us to God.

Show notes:

John Caputo’s book What to Believe?

This series address what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us humans – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine? 

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation. 

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation. 

In this episode Bill and Fr. James explore the next two chapters of John Caputo’s book What to Believe?  Chapters focus on “What is going on in God’s name” and “Whether or not God will have been may be up to us.” Two more easy lessons!

Show notes:John Caputo’s book What to Believe?

This series address what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us humans – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine? 

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation. 

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation. 

In this episode Bill and Fr. James explore the next two chapters of John Caputo’s book What to Believe?  The chapters focus on “the Event,” what’s really going on in the name of God. Caputo says, “this is what to believe, what we really can and do believe, regardless of whether we ‘believe in God.’”

Show notes:

John Caputo’s book What to Believe?

This series addresses what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us humans – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine?

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation.

In this episode Bill and Fr. James explore the next two chapters of John Caputo’s book What to Believe?  The chapters focus on the roles of mysticism and Jesus within radical theology.

Show notes:

John Caputo’s book, What to Believe?

Tillich’s Sermon on Acceptance:

www.wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/20810.pdf

Recommended books on Jesus:

1.)  John Dominic Crossan’s, Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography

2.)  Marcus J. Borg’s, Jesus: Uncovering the Life, Teachings, and Relevance of a Religious Revolutionary

Recommended books on physics:

1.)  The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra

2.)  The Dancing Wuli Masters by Gary Zukav

Resources for Two Way Prayer: www.twowayprayer.org

This series addresses what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us humans – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine?

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation.

In this episode Bill and Fr. James explore the next two chapters of John Caputo’s book What to Believe? – Twelve Brief Lessons in Radical Theology. The chapters are titled: Pantheism, That’s Horrible! … & … Do Radical Theologians Pray?

This series address what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us humans – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine?

People have been asking these questions for as long as we’ve been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of mere speculation.

In this episode Fr. Bill is joined by Fr. James R., a recovering Episcopal priest from Central Florida. Together they explore the first two chapters of John Caputo’s book titled: What to Believe? – Twelve Brief Lessons in Radical Theology. The chapters are “God” Does Not Exist & Bridge-Builders and Ground-Diggers.

This series address what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine?

People have been asking these questions for as long as human beings have been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation.

In this episode Fr. Bill is joined by Fr. James R., a recovering Episcopal priest from Central Florida. Together they explore a recent book by John D. Caputo titled: What to Believe? – Twelve Brief Lessons in Radical Theology.

Show notes:

John D. Caputo: What to Believe? – Twelve Brief Lessons in Radical Theology

This series address what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  Does God exist? Does God really care about us – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine? 

People have been asking these questions for as long as human beings have been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation. 

In this episode Fr. Bill explores the chapter in the Big Book titled: We Agnostics. In it, Bill Wilson makes every effort to welcome believers and non-believers alike to a spiritual recovery approach. Here he opens the door as wide as possible. Future episodes will explore other books and writers opening inner doors still wider for addicts and alcoholics struggling with “the God problem.”

Bill Wilson on Spiritual Experience

Honest to God by Bishop John A.T. Robinson

More importantly: What to Believe: Twelve Brief Lessons in Radical Theology by John Caputo 

This series address what some of us in recovery refer to as “the God problem.”  In episode 1 "Bill Wilson's Spiritual Experiences" we explore: Does God exist? Does God really care about us – and maybe more honestly and specifically, does God care about me and mine?

People have been asking these questions for as long as human beings have been on this earth but for us “real” alcoholics and addicts whose lives depend on finding a spiritual solution to our addiction death sentence, it’s more than a matter of speculation.

Bill Wilson was one of those men in such desperate need. In this episode Fr. Bill traces some of the lesser-known events that preceded Bill Wilson’s famous “White Light” experience in detox. Through these encounters the door of Bill’s mind and heart can be seen opening to a divine, healing Presence that would soon bring about his release from addiction. Future episodes will attempt to open inner doors for addicts and alcoholics struggling with the spiritual approach used in 12-Step recovery.

Show notes:

Bill W. My First 40 Years

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1568383738/ref=sr_aod_dp_img

Two Way Prayer is part of a longer morning prayer practice. In this episode Fr. Bill details what that time might involve and how Two Way Prayer fits into it.

Show notes:

Good Morning by Dick B.

https://www.amazon.com/Good-Morning-Quiet-Watch-Meditation/dp/1885803222

A Book of Psalms by Stephen Mitchell

The Three Scripture Readings AA’s Co-Founder Dr. Bob Considered Essential

Dr. Bob begged Bill Wilson to “keep it simple.” In that same spirit, the Oxford Group often compacted their program of change down to three short words: CONNECTION – CORRECTION – DIRECTION. In this bonus episode Fr. Bill reviews the 12-Steps in light of these, giving listeners a simpler understanding of the “change” we need to undergo for recovery. 

Show notes:

Jean Brown pamphlet

Why do alcoholics and drug addicts find it so hard to quit and stay quit?  Is addiction really a disease? And if it is, how’s it best treated?

It’s been over a hundred years since Dr. William Silkworth formulated his “allergy theory” that appeared in the Big Book. Since then, science has learned a whole lot more about both the physical and psychological dimensions underlying addiction. 

In this episode Fr. Bill interviews addictionologist Doctor Nicole T. Labor, DO, author of The Addictoholic Deconstructed. Her book provides the general reader and those in recovery with a much-needed primer on the brain chemistry that underlies addiction. Dr. Labor shares her story of recovery and her passion for helping both addicts and family members recover. You’ll find her knowledgeable, dedicated, and pretty damned funny. Her book is available in the show notes below. 

Show notes:

• The Addictoholic Deconstructed by Nicole T. Labor, DO, BCFP,BCABAM, FASAM

• Dr. Labor’s website and contact information: https://www.theaddictsdoc.com/

When setting off on any journey, it’s best to know your intended destination in advance. On the 12th Step journey, to use the Big Book’s original wording, that means following the 12 Steps to arrive at a transformational spiritual experience - one powerful enough to overcome addiction. Of course, the wording of the 12th Step was soon changed to “a spiritual awakening” not wanting to scare newcomers away. But when Bill Wilson tried changing it back to the original, AA wouldn’t let him.

This single episode describes the “psychic change” the Steps are intended to bring about using three quotes to describe the experience. First, a definition that originated with William James in his Varieties of Religious Experience; second, the description contained in the Big Book; and finally, a helpful quote from Jungian author Robert A. Johnson’s book Transformation.  These quotes are contained in a handout found in the show notes.

Show notes: 

• What Is a Psychic Change or Spiritual Experience

• Quantum Change by Professor William Miller

• Transformation by Robert A. Johnson

• Jung’s Answer to Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Job

David Belden was born into a family of Oxford Group leaders and committed activists. The Group set out “to change the world” and throughout his early years David devoted himself wholeheartedly to this challenge.  But while “carrying the message” in Africa, his life took an unexpected turn that led to his questioning some of principles and practices he had once taken uncritically for granted.

David returned to Oxford University to write his doctoral dissertation on the Group’s history, influence and shortcomings. He recently published a still more intimate account of his own journey toward personal and social transformation and change: The World Remakers’ Child.

This series affords a rare insider’s view of the Group responsible for contributing no fewer than ten of A.A.’s Twelve Steps and yields fresh insights and challenges throughout. Mahatma Gandhi’s grandson praised David’s book for its “steady candor,” “humor about himself,” and “a thirst for a less harsh, more loving, and fairer world.”

In this final episode Dave’s early Oxford Group goal of “world changing” may have traveled full circle. It’s reminiscent of the poet T.S Elliott’s famous lines:

We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time.

Show notes:

David Belden’s book: The World Remakers’ Child

Dave’s Oxford University Doctoral Thesis:

https://www.academia.edu/27545723/The_Origins_and_Development_of_the_Oxford_Group_Moral_Re_Armament_

Dave’s website: https://www.davidbelden.com/

Dave doing a recent book reading at his Unitarian Universalist Church:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=wm#inbox/QgrcJHsHpqWKvMChSdmxXjJNlDCGCJGCgHL?projector=1

This Is an Uprising: How Nonviolent Revolt Is Shaping the Twenty-First Century by Paul and Mark Engler

How 12 Step Programs Can Help Build Healthier Movements

https://wagingnonviolence.org/2025/10/how-12-step-programs-can-help-build-healthier-movements/

David Belden was born into a family of Oxford Group leaders and committed activists. The Group set out “to change the world” and throughout his early years David devoted himself wholeheartedly to this challenge.  But while “carrying the message” in Africa, his life took an unexpected turn that led to his questioning some of principles and practices he had once taken uncritically for granted.

David returned to Oxford University to write his doctoral dissertation on the Group’s history, influence and shortcomings. He recently published a still more intimate account of his own journey toward personal and social transformation and change: The World Remakers’ Child.

This series affords a rare insider’s view of the Group responsible for contributing no fewer than ten of A.A.’s Twelve Steps and yields fresh insights and challenges throughout. Mahatma Gandhi’s grandson praised David’s book for its “steady candor,” “humor about himself,” and “a thirst for a less harsh, more loving, and fairer world.”

This third episode traces the origins of many of the 12 Steps as they were practiced among members of the Group. Remember, Bill Wison said he derived no fewer than ten of his twelve Steps straight from his experience within the Oxford Group. They had no Steps, but they were well on their way to finding the Answer!

Show notes:

David Belden’s book: The World Remakers’ Child

Dave’s Oxford University Doctoral Thesis:

https://www.academia.edu/27545723/The_Origins_and_Development_of_the_Oxford_Group_Moral_Re_Armament_

David Belden was born into a family of Oxford Group leaders and committed activists. The Group set out “to change the world” and throughout his early years David devoted himself wholeheartedly to this challenge.  But while “carrying the message” in Africa, his life took an unexpected turn that led to his questioning some of principles and practices he had once taken uncritically for granted.

David returned to Oxford University to write his doctoral dissertation on the Group’s history, influence and shortcomings. He recently published a still more intimate account of his own journey toward personal and social transformation and change: The World Remakers’ Child.

This series affords a rare insider’s view of the Group responsible for contributing no fewer than ten of A.A.’s Twelve Steps and yields fresh insights and challenges throughout. Mahatma Gandhi’s grandson praised David’s book for its “steady candor,” “humor about himself,” and “a thirst for a less harsh, more loving, and fairer world.”

This second episode takes a deep dive into Dave’s immersion in the Group, what that was like, what happened, and what it’s like now. It’s quite a ride!

Show notes:

David Belden’s book: The World Remakers’ Child

Dave’s Oxford University Doctoral Thesis:

https://www.academia.edu/27545723/The_Origins_and_Development_of_the_Oxford_Group_Moral_Re_Armament_

 For Sinners Only by A.J. Russell

The Christ of the Indian Road by E. Stanley Jones (free pdf)

This Is an Uprising: How Nonviolent Revolt Is Shaping the Twenty-First Century by Paul and Mark Engler

How 12 Step Programs Can Help Build Healthier Movements

David Belden was born into a family of Oxford Group leaders and committed activists. The Group set out “to change the world” and throughout his early years David devoted himself wholeheartedly to this challenge.  But while “carrying the message” in Africa, his life took an unexpected turn that led to his questioning some of principles and practices he had once taken uncritically for granted.

David returned to Oxford University to write his doctoral dissertation on the Group’s history, influence and shortcomings. He recently published a still more intimate account of his own journey toward personal and social transformation and change: The World Remakers’ Child.

This series affords a rare insider’s view of the Group responsible for contributing no fewer than ten of A.A.’s Twelve Steps and yields fresh insights and challenges throughout. Mahatma Gandhi’s grandson praised David’s book for its “steady candor,” “humor about himself,” and “a thirst for a less harsh, more loving, and fairer world.”

The first episode briefly introduces David’s story to listeners after which he and Fr. Bill explore the life of Oxford Group founder Frank Buchman.                           

Show notes:

David Belden’s book: The World Remakers’ Child

Dave’s Oxford University Doctoral Thesis:

https://www.academia.edu/27545723/The_Origins_and_Development_of_the_Oxford_Group_Moral_Re_Armament_

For Sinners Only by A.J. Russell (used books are getting expensive. This is the cheapest I found)

Prof. Miller's book Quantum Change: When Epiphanies and Sudden Insights Transform Ordinary Lives has been described as the most definitive work on the subject of religious experiences since William James' Varieties of Religious Experience. The latter has had a profound influence on AA and Bill Wilson’s development of the 12-Steps, and this book brings the subject into the modern era.  Fr. Bill interviews Professor Miller in an audio only format.

Show notes:

Quantum Change: When Epiphanies and Sudden Insights Transform Ordinary Lives by Professor William R. Miller

What AA Has to Teach the Church by Sam Shoemaker / pdf on Step Study

The word HOPE appears no fewer than 34 times in the first 164 pages of the Big Book.  In recovery, it’s vital for getting us started and for keeping us going.

In this two-part series, Dr. Denise Ernst, PhD joins Fr. Bill in exploring the role HOPE plays in fostering meaningful change, especially in addiction recovery. Denise earned her doctorate in psychology at the University of New Mexico under the direction of Professor William R. Miller, a pioneer developer of Motivational Interviewing. She has a strong background in addiction counseling and research.  Episodes are based on Dr. Miller’s recent book: 8 Ways to Hope, Charting a Path Through Uncertain Times. Hope you enjoy!

Show notes:

8 Ways to Hope by William R. Miller

Denise Ernst, PhD website: https://deniseernst.com/

Interview with Professor Bill Miller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CiQ7rVXlrQ

Viktor Frankl Man’s Search for Meaning

Bill Miller’s Quantum Change

The word HOPE appears no fewer than 34 times in the first 164 pages of the Big Book.  In recovery, it’s vital for getting us started and for keeping us going.

In this two-part series, Dr. Denise Ernst, PhD joins Fr. Bill in exploring the role HOPE plays in fostering meaningful change, especially in addiction recovery. Denise earned her doctorate in psychology at the University of New Mexico under the direction of Professor William R. Miller, a pioneer developer of Motivational Interviewing. She has a strong background in addiction counseling and research.  Episodes are based on Dr. Miller’s recent book: 8 Ways to Hope, Charting a Path Through Uncertain Times. Hope you enjoy!

Show notes:

8 Ways to Hope by William R. Miller

Denise Ernst, PhD website: https://deniseernst.com/

Few people blend the Buddhist spiritual path with the 12-Step journey as seamlessly and as helpfully as Fr. Bill’s guest Kevin Griffin. A teacher of Buddhist meditation for many years as well as an excellent writer and musician, Kevin is also a man in long-term recovery from addiction with a powerful message to share.

This series explores Kevin’s book One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps. It’s sure to be of interest to spiritual travelers of all stripes. This episode completes the series focusing on the nature of a SPIRITUAL AWAKENING & how we’re called to CARRY THE MESSAGE.

Show notes:

One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps by Kevin Griffin

Kevin’s website: https://kevingriffin.net/

Jack Cornfield’s Bringing Home the Dharma     

The Body Keeps the Score by  Bessel van der Kolk M.D. 

Tom Lavin is a therapist, an educator, and a close friend for over fifty years. He’s dedicated both his life and his career to helping people find effective solutions to the problems that come with being human. Tom recently delivered this talk on “stress” to a group of public-service attorneys in Reno, Nevada. He believes we often try to “cope with stress” rather than seek its causes that often lie below the surface of our lives. As the Big Book reminds us, “our liquor was but a symptom.” With holidays fast approaching, I thought Tom’s message is one that can benefit us all. So, relax, listen, learn, and enjoy! 

Show notes:

Handouts: Living a Meaningful Life – Bluebird

Few people blend the Buddhist spiritual path with the 12-Step journey as seamlessly and as helpfully as Fr. Bill’s guest Kevin Griffin. A student and teacher of Buddhist meditation for many years as well as an excellent writer and musician, Kevin is also a man in long-term recovery from addiction with a powerful message to share.

This series explores Kevin’s book One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps. It’s sure to be of interest to spiritual travelers of all stripes. This episode is focused on Step Eleven exploring Buddhist meditation practices.  It includes both an experience and explanation of a simple technique for getting started.

Show notes:

One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps by Kevin Griffin

Kevin’s website: https://kevingriffin.net/

Sought Through Meditation (Step Eleven) by Kevin Griffin

Buddha's Brain: The Practical Neuroscience of Happiness, Love, and Wisdom  March 1, 2025 by Rick Hanson PhD (Author), Richard Mendius MD Jack Kornfield PhD 

Few people blend the Buddhist spiritual path with the 12-Step journey as seamlessly and as helpfully as Fr. Bill’s guest Kevin Griffin. A student and teacher of Buddhist meditation for many years as well as an excellent writer and musician, Kevin is also a man in long-term recovery from addiction with a powerful message to share.

This series explores Kevin’s book One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps. It’s sure to be of interest to spiritual travelers of all stripes. This episode completes Steps 8 & 9 but is focused mainly on Step 10.

Show notes:

One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps by Kevin Griffin

Please visit Kevin’s website for more information: https://kevingriffin.net/

Few people blend the Buddhist spiritual path with the 12-Step journey as seamlessly and as helpfully as Fr. Bill’s guest Kevin Griffin. A student and teacher of Buddhist meditation for many years as well as an excellent writer and musician, Kevin is also a man in long-term recovery from addiction with a powerful message to share.

This series explores Kevin’s book One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps. It’s sure to be of interest to spiritual travelers of all stripes. This episode is focused on Steps 6 & 7 exploring how Buddhist meditation can help with the practice of letting go.

Show notes:

One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps by Kevin Griffin

Kevin’s website: https://kevingriffin.net/

A Path with Heart: A Guide Through the Perils and Promises of Spiritual Life by Jack Kornfield

Few people blend the Buddhist spiritual path with the 12-Step journey as seamlessly and as helpfully as Fr. Bill’s guest Kevin Griffin. A student and teacher of Buddhist meditation for many years as well as an excellent writer and musician, Kevin is also a man in long-term recovery from addiction with a powerful message to share.

This series explores Kevin’s book One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps. It’s sure to be of interest to spiritual travelers of all stripes. This episode is focused on Steps 4 & 5 exploring how Buddhist meditation can help with becoming more awake and responsible.

Show notes:

One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps by Kevin Griffin

Kevin’s website: https://kevingriffin.net/

Few people blend the Buddhist spiritual path with the 12-Step journey as seamlessly and as helpfully as Fr. Bill’s guest Kevin Griffin. A teacher of Buddhist meditation for many years as well as an excellent writer and musician, Kevin is also a man in long-term recovery from addiction with a powerful message to share.

This series explores Kevin’s book One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps. It’s sure to be of interest to spiritual travelers of all stripes. This episode explores Steps 2 and 3: how Buddhism can help when traditional religious practice is becoming less of an option for many.

Show notes:

One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps by Kevin Griffin

Kevin’s website: https://kevingriffin.net/

Few people blend the Buddhist spiritual path with the 12-Step journey as seamlessly and as helpfully as Fr. Bill’s guest Kevin Griffin. A teacher of Buddhist meditation for many years as well as an excellent writer and musician, Kevin is also a man in long-term recovery from addiction with a powerful message to share.

The series explores Kevin’s book One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps. It’s sure to be of interest to spiritual travelers of all stripes. In this episode, Kevin shares his recovery story along with his experience, strength and hope related to Step One. You’ll find Kevin a gentle and wise teacher sure to bring added insights to your recovery program.

Show notes:

One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps by Kevin Griffin

Kevin’s website: https://kevingriffin.net/

Bill Wilson wrote: “Where did we learn about moral inventory, amends for harms done, turning our will and our lives over to the care of God? Where did we learn about prayer and meditation and all the rest? The spiritual substance of our remaining ten Steps (Steps 2 through 11) came straight from Dr. Bob’s and my own early associationwith the Oxford Groups….”

Fr. Bill’s guests are Rob and Susan Corchoran, both long-time leaders in the movement that gave birth to AA.

Susan’s dad, Alan Thornhill wrote several plays that helped carry the Oxford Group message of spiritual transformation to tens of thousands all around the world. And Rob’s father worked for the Groups amidst the labor unions of Scotland.

Together they labored for many years for racial harmony in Richmond, Virginia helping heal the wounds of slavery and discrimination through a program called Hope in the Cities.

The Oxford Group wanted to “change the world” through the program of spiritual transformation Bill Wilson used so successfully to change alcoholics. This interview will help you better understand the spiritual roots of our 12-Step programs.

Show notes:    Frank Buchman and the Oxford Group·     The Forgotten Factor: A play by Alan Thornhill (pdf copy)

Moral Re-Armament

·     Rob Corcoran website and blog link: https://www.robcorcoran.org/

Toward Transformative Reparations by Rob Corcoran and Mike Wenger https://www.robcorcoran.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Toward-Transformative-Reparations-NCHE.pdf

A beautiful man in long term recovery whose life blended 12-Step recovery with Native American ceremony, and a resurrected Roman Catholicism.  For many years, Bill hasbeen practicing a form of Two Way Prayer that has included listening to the Inner Voice speak to him and heal his inner wounds, often through poetry.

Bill recently published a collection of his writings titled Our Trilogy: Poetry for Connection and Purpose. Most of us Oldtimers can spot the genuine article when it appears. Bill C. is one of these. I think you’ll enjoy hearing his story, benefit from some of his hard-earned wisdom, and enjoy hearing him read a few of his inspired poems.

Show notes:  Our Trilogy by Bill Cullen: Poetry for Connection andPurpose https://store.bookbaby.com/book/our-trilogy /

Cursillo Movement

The Power of Two Way Prayer by Father Bill W.·      Native American Sundance Ceremony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Dance

When most of us addicts wash up on the shores of recovery to say we’ve lost our way seems a gross understatement. The bottom has usually fallen out from under our lives. We feel utterly lost and painfully alone. The world we knew is gone and no new world has arrived to take its place. We need a map to orient us and a guide to help us find our way home.

This is the world Jungian analyst Dr. James Hollis describes in his book “Living Between Worlds: Finding Personal Resilience in Changing Times.” It’s likely an all too familiar world to most of us addicts. Hollis says not only are we lost, but the religious structures and cultural belief systems thatsupported yesterday’s lost souls seem out of reach for many of today’s men and women.

The series describes this lost-world and how to access the “Inner Resilience” needed to find our way home.

This episode is in three parts – each is focused on insights into the several gifts depth psychology can bring to us in recovery.

Part 3 is the final episode in the series and covers:

A.      We Are the Meaning Makers

B.      From Whence Cometh, And Wither To?

C.     Do We Ever Really Arrive Home?

Show notes:

Living Between Worlds: Finding Personal Resilience in Changing Times by James Hollis, PhD.

The Power of Two Way Prayer by Father Bill W.

When most of us addicts wash up on the shores of recovery to say we’ve lost our way

seems a gross understatement. The bottom has usually fallen out from under our lives.

We feel utterly lost and painfully alone. The world we knew is gone and no new world has arrived to take its place. We need a map to orient us and a guide to help us find our way home.

This is the world Jungian analyst Dr. James Hollis describes in his book “Living Between Worlds: Finding Personal Resilience in Changing Times.” It’s likely an all too familiar world to most of us addicts. Hollis says not only are we lost, but the religious structures and cultural belief systems that supported yesterday’s lost souls seem out of reach for many of today’s men and women.

The series describes this lost-world and how to access the “Inner Resilience” needed to find our way home. This episode is in three parts – each is focused on insights into the gifts depth psychology can bring to us in recovery. Part #2 covers:

A.       Our psyche wishes to be heard

B.       Fear and lethargy are our greatest opponents

Show notes:

Living Between Worlds: Finding Personal Resilience in Changing Times by James Hollis, PhD.

The Power of Two Way Prayer