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Engineering Enablement by DX

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Frequency: 1 episode/15d. Total Eps: 111

This is a weekly podcast focused on developer productivity and the teams and leaders dedicated to improving it. Topics include in-depth interviews with Platform and DevEx teams, as well as the latest research and approaches on measuring developer productivity. The EE podcast is hosted by Abi Noda, the founder and CEO of DX (getdx.com) and published researcher focused on developing measurement methods to help organizations improve developer experience and productivity.

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🇫🇷 France - technology
02/08/2026
#83
🇨🇦 Canada - technology
07/05/2025
#75
🇬🇧 Great Britain - technology
21/01/2025
#80

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DX Core 4: 2024 benchmarks

Episode 71

Wednesday, January 8, 2025 • Duration 28:20

In this episode, Abi and Laura dive into the 2024 DX Core 4 benchmarks, sharing insights across data from 500+ companies. They discuss what these benchmarks mean for engineering leaders, how to interpret key metrics like the Developer Experience Index, and offer advice on how to best use benchmarking data in your organization.

Mentions and Links:

DX core 4 benchmarks
Measuring developer productivity with the DX Core 4
Developer experience index (DXI)
Will Larson’s article on the Core 4 and power of benchmarking data

Discussion points:

(0:42) What benchmarks are for
(3:44) Overview of the DX Core 4 benchmarks
(6:07) PR throughput data
(11:05) Key insights related to startups and mobile teams
(14:54) Change fail rate data
(19:42) How to best use benchmarking data

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DX Core 4: Framework overview, key design principles, and practical applications

Episode 70

Thursday, December 12, 2024 • Duration 36:59

In this episode, Abi and Laura introduce the DX Core 4, a new framework designed to simplify how organizations measure developer productivity. They discuss the evolution of productivity metrics, comparing Core 4 with frameworks like DORA, SPACE, and DevEx, and emphasize its focus on speed, effectiveness, quality, and impact. They explore why each metric was chosen, the importance of balancing productivity measures with developer experience, and how Core 4 can help engineering leaders align productivity goals with broader business objectives.

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(2:42) Introduction to the DX Core 4
(3:42) Identifying the Core 4's target audience and key stakeholders
(4:38) Origins and purpose
(9:20) Building executive alignment
(14:15) Tying metrics to business value through output-oriented measures
(24:45) Defining impact
(32:42) Choosing between DORA, SPACE, and Core 4 frameworks

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How Slack fully automates deploys and anomaly detection with Z-scores | Sean Mcllroy (Slack)

Episode 61

Tuesday, April 23, 2024 • Duration 33:49

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This week we’re joined by Sean Mcllroy from Slack’s Release Engineering team to learn about how they’ve fully automated their deployment process. This conversation covers Slack’s original release process, key changes Sean’s team has made, and the latest challenges they’re working on today.

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Read Sean’s blog post, The Scary Thing About Deploys
Follow Sean on LinkedIn

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(1:34): The Release Engineering team
(2:13): How the monolith has served Slack
(3:24): How the deployment process used to work
(6:23): The complexity of the deploy itself
(7:39): Early ideas for improving the deployment process
(9:07): Why anomaly detection is challenging
(10:32): What a Z-score is
(13:23): Managing noise with Z-scores
(16:49): Presenting this information to people that need it
(19:54): Taking humans out of the process
(23:13): Handling rollbacks
(25:27): Not overloading developers with information
(28:26): Handling large deployments

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What’s up with internal developer portals? | Chris Westerhold (Thoughtworks)

Episode 60

Tuesday, April 9, 2024 • Duration 36:13

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This week’s episode is the recording of a live conversation between Abi and Chris Westerhold (Thoughtworks Head of Developer Experience). This conversation is useful for anyone early in their journey with developer portals or platforms: Abi and Chris discuss common approaches to solving these problems, pitfalls to avoid, building vs. buying, and more.

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Follow Chris on LinkedIn
Watch the recording of this conversation
Watch part 2 of this conversation on the market landscape
Learn about PlatformX, DX’s product mentioned in the conversation

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(3:09) Why there’s an increased interest in developer portals
(5:33) Chris’ background with dev portals
(6:37) Homegrown solutions for developer portals
(9:22) How developer portal initiatives begin
(11:24) Internal developer portal vs service catalogs and IDPs
(16:18) Mistakes companies make with developer portals
(21:05) Approaches to solving this problem
(24:28) How can developer portals drive value
(32:07) Common traps to avoid

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10 years of driving developer productivity at Yelp | Kent Wills (Yelp)

Episode 59

Tuesday, March 26, 2024 • Duration 45:14

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On this week's episode, Abi interviews Kent Wills, Director of Engineering Effectiveness at Yelp. He shares insights into the evolution of their developer productivity efforts over the past decade. From tackling challenges with their monolithic architecture to scaling productivity initiatives for over 1,300 developers. Kent also touches on his experience in building a business case for developer productivity.

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(1:42) Forming the developer productivity team
(3:25) Naming the team engineering effectiveness
(4:30) Getting leadership buy-in for focusing on this work
(7:54) Managing code ownership in Yelp’s monolith
(12:23) Supporting the design system
(16:00) The business case for forming a dedicated team
(19:45) How to standardize
(23:50) How their approach to standardization might be different in another company
(27:08) Demonstrating the value of their work
(32:21) Building an insights platform
(38:47) How Yelp is using LLM’s

Mentions and Links

Connect with Kent Wills on LinkedIn
Watch Kent’s 2023 talk at Elevate
Listen to the interview with Peter Seibel (“Let 1,000 flowers bloom”)
Download the recently published benchmarks on developer productivity team headcount

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How “instructional engineers” improve developer onboarding at Splunk | Gail Carmichael (Splunk)

Episode 58

Tuesday, March 12, 2024 • Duration 39:31

This week we’re joined by Gail Carmichael, Principal Instructional Engineer at Splunk. At Splunk, Gail’s team is responsible for improving developer onboarding, which they do through a multi-day learning program. Here, Gail shares how this program works and how they measure developer onboarding. The conversation also covers what instructional engineers are generally, and how Gail demonstrates the impact of her team’s work.

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(1:16) The Engineering Enablement & Engagement Team at Splunk
(8:01) What an Instructional Engineer is
(14:36) The developer onboarding program at Splunk
(16:05) Components of a good onboarding program
(21:11) Why having an onboarding program matters
(28:17) Measuring onboarding at Shopify (Gail’s previous company)
(31:39) Measuring developer onboarding at Splunk

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Connect with Gail on LinkedIn
Download the report on Developer productivity metrics at top tech companies

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Bootstrapping a developer portal | Adam Rogal (DoorDash)

Episode 57

Tuesday, February 27, 2024 • Duration 54:43

In this episode we’re joined by Adam Rogal, who leads Developer Productivity and Platform at DoorDash. Adam describes DoorDash’s journey with their internal developer portal, and gives advice for other teams looking to follow a similar path. Adam also describes how his team delivered value quickly and drove adoption for their developer platform.

Discussion points:

(1:47) Why DoorDash explored implementing a developer portal
(6:59) The initial vision for the developer portal
12:19 Funding ongoing development
16:01 Deciding what to include in the portal
19:15 Coming up with a name for the portal
20:01 Advice for interested beginners
23:55 Putting together a business case
32:32 Getting adoption for the portal
37:27 Driving initial awareness
41:29 Getting feedback from developers
48:33 What Adam would have done differently

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A deep-dive on the Thoughtworks Tech Radar | Rebecca Parsons, Camilla Crispim, Erik Dörnenburg (Thoughtworks)

Episode 56

Tuesday, February 13, 2024 • Duration 45:36

In this episode, Abi has a fascinating conversation with Rebecca Parsons, ThoughtWorks's CTO, Camilla Crispim, and Erik Dörnenburg on the ThoughtWorks Tech Radar. The trio begins with an overview of Tech Radar and its history before delving into the intricate process of creating each report involving multiple teams and stakeholders. The conversation concludes with a focus on the evolution of Tech Radar's design and process and potential future changes. This episode offers Tech Radar fans an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at its history and production.

Discussion points:

1:20-An introduction to the Tech Radar
6:06-Common terms used in this episode
6:27-The origin of the Tech Radar
8:50-Problems that the Tech Radar was aiming to solve
12:23-The impact on internal decision making-a tool for driving change
14:30-The teams philosophy behind Tech Radar
18:33-What sets the Tech Radar apart
21:11-Why maintaining independence is crucial for their audience
25:08-How Tech Radar publishes their reports
29:36-A look into Thoughtworks live meeting sessions
34:51-Tech Radars Git repository
42:20-Recent changes and upcoming shifts

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Measuring and rolling out AI coding assistants | Eirini Kalliamvakou (GitHub)

Episode 55

Wednesday, January 31, 2024 • Duration 47:43

This week's guest is Eirini Kalliamvakou, a staff researcher at GitHub focused on AI and developer experience. Eirini sits at the forefront of research into GitHub Copilot. Abi and Eirini discuss recent research on how AI coding assistance impacts developer productivity. They talk about how leaders should build business cases for AI tools. They also preview what's to come with AI tools and implications for how developer productivity is measured.

Discussion points:

(1:49) Overview of GitHub’s research on AI
(2:59) The research study on Copilot
(4:48) Defining and measuring productivity for this study
(7:44) Exact measures and factors studied
(8:16) Key findings from the study
(9:45) How the study was conducted
(11:17) Most surprising findings for the researchers
(14:01) The motivation for conducting a follow-up study
(15:34) How the follow-up study was conducted
(18:42) Findings from the follow-up study
(21:13) Is AI just hype?
(26:34) How to begin advocating for AI tools
(34:44) How to translate data into dollars
(37:06) How to roll out AI tools to an organization
(38:47) The impact of AI on developer experience
(43:24) Implications of AI on how we measure productivity

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Measuring developer productivity at Airbnb | Christopher Sanson (Airbnb)

Episode 54

Wednesday, January 3, 2024 • Duration 40:57

Christopher Sanson is a product manager at Airbnb who is dedicated to enhancing developer productivity and tooling. Today, we learn more about Airbnb's developer productivity team and how various teams use metrics, both within and outside the organization. From there, we dive even deeper into their measurement journey, highlighting their implementation of DORA metrics and the challenges they overcame throughout the process.

Discussion points:

(2:43) Who is the developer productivity customer
(4:49) The evolution of developer productivity at Airbnb
(9:26) Approach before DORA metrics
(14:29) Getting buy-in for DORA metrics
(17:49) Planning how to deliver new metrics to the organization
(21:12) How Airbnb calculates deployment frequency
(23:29) Implementing a proof of concept
(27:20) Statistical measurement strategies and tactics
(31:11) Operationalizing developer productivity metrics
(34:26) How Airbnb reviews data
(35:41) How Airbnb uses DORA metrics

Mentions and links:

Christopher Sanson on LinkedIn
Christopher’s talk at DPE Summit
How Top Companies Measure Developer Productivity

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