Endurance State of Mind is your go-to podcast for all things endurance—from the long miles to the mental grind. Hosted by Zach Vogt and Anthony Herrington, two everyday athletes with an obsession for pushing limits, this show dives into the training, mindset, and lifestyle of endurance sports. Each episode brings candid conversations, local race highlights (especially in Mississippi), interviews with inspiring guests, and plenty of laughs along the way. Whether you’re chasing a PR or just trying to survive your next long run, this podcast will keep you motivated, informed, and connected to the endurance community.
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Episode 31:Breaking Ceilings and Building Legacy: Lacey Saul’s Road to Kona
Episode 31
Tuesday, October 28, 2025 • Duration 01:16:27
In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Lacey Saul — a 13-time Ironman finisher, registered dietitian, and newly minted Kona qualifier through the Ironman Legacy Program. Lacey opens up about her decade-long pursuit of Kona, how she learned to pivot instead of quit, and why racing smart often beats racing fast. From battling brutal weather and concussions to mastering gut training and redefining limits, this conversation dives deep into the mental and physical endurance it takes to chase a dream for over a decade.
🎧 Tune in to hear how Lacey turned setbacks into stepping stones, why “don’t mock the walk” changed her entire racing strategy, and how fueling body and mind go hand in hand on the road to Kona.
takeaways
Lacey's journey began with a desire to cross a physical finish line after overcoming childhood challenges.
She emphasizes the importance of pivoting rather than quitting when faced with obstacles.
The Legacy Program allows athletes to qualify for Kona by completing 12 Ironman races over 12 years.
Adversity in races has taught Lacey valuable lessons about resilience and adaptability.
Nutrition is crucial for endurance athletes, and gut training is essential for optimal performance.
Coca-Cola is a go-to for Lacey during races for a quick energy boost.
Training should be adapted based on individual needs and responses to different conditions.
Lacey's experiences highlight the importance of mental resilience in endurance sports.
She aims to continue racing while also exploring more freedom in her training.
Lacey plans to participate in a 50K and other races while preparing for Kona.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Lacey Saul's Journey
03:29 The Evolution of an Endurance Athlete
06:32 The Legacy Program Explained
12:33 Facing Adversity in Racing
18:28 Lessons Learned from Challenges
24:24 The Importance of Adaptability
26:32 Adapting Goals in Real-Time
28:28 The Great Floridian Race Experience
33:30 Training Plans and Personal Adaptations
39:37 The Importance of Listening to Your Body
46:24 Race Day Challenges and Adaptability
49:24 The Evolution of Fueling Strategies
52:18 Gut Training: The Key to Endurance Performance
55:15 Nutrition and Hydration: Balancing Electrolytes and Carbs
56:33 Cost of Nutrition: Finding Affordable Fuel Options
01:02:35 Breaking Personal Limits: The Power of Self-Belief
01:09:05 Future Aspirations: Embracing Flexibility in Training
Episode 30: Unfiltered Miles: The Clear Creek Ultra Recap & Lessons from Havoc, Harmony, and Humility
Tuesday, October 21, 2025 • Duration 01:09:40
Description: In this special “just the hosts” episode of Endurance State of Mind, Anthony and Zach sit down to catch their breath and reflect on a wild stretch of endurance action. They revisit key takeaways from recent guests — Derrick Baker, the “Ambassador of Havoc,” and Warren Kimball, the maestro of the negative split — and unpack how consistency, nutrition, and mindset shape performance. Then they dive into their own Clear Creek Ultra experience, the finale of the MUTS Grand Slam. From trail sand and sore calves to ice bandanas and pulled pork sandwiches, this one’s equal parts reflection, laughter, and endurance wisdom.
takeaways
Endurance running requires a balance of grit and chaos.
Suffering can be a voluntary choice in endurance sports.
Consistency in training is more important than pace.
Nutrition plays a crucial role in recovery and performance.
Mindset is key to approaching races strategically.
Fixed time events foster a relaxed and social atmosphere.
Listening to your body is essential for long-distance running.
Having a supportive community enhances the running experience.
It's important to prioritize long-term goals over short-term gains.
Celebrating small victories can lead to greater achievements.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Endurance Conversations
01:31 Reflections on Derek Baker's Mindset
04:14 Insights from Warren Kimball's Approach
13:35 Exploring the Connection Between Music and Running
17:22 The Clear Creek Ultra Experience
19:13 The MUTS Grand Slam and Ultra Dog Achievement
32:17 Course Overview and Challenges
37:36 Race Atmosphere and Community Spirit
44:33Pacing Strategies and Personal Goals
Episode 29: The Ambassador of Havoc: Inside Derrick Baker’s Relentless Mind
Tuesday, October 14, 2025 • Duration 01:04:32
From the weight room to 200-mile races, Derrick Baker is built different. A 12-time 100-mile finisher and 2-time 200-mile finisher from North Mississippi, Derrick embodies discipline, humility, and purpose. Once a 250-pound powerlifter, he discovered ultra running after seeing David Goggins on YouTube — and never looked back.
In this episode, we dive into how Derrick blends bodybuilding with high-mileage training, how he stays grounded in the grind, and how he finds light in the darkest moments of a race. He talks about his bond with his wife and crew chief, Candy, the mental battles that come with distance, and his goal to take on the legendary Vol State 500K next year.
This conversation is raw, reflective, and packed with wisdom on grit, faith, and the balance between
takeaways
Derrick Baker is a 12-time 100-mile finisher and 2-time 200-mile finisher.
His journey into ultra running began in 2019 after being inspired by David Goggins.
Derrick balances powerlifting and ultra running by training 75-100 miles a week.
He emphasizes the importance of mental strength in overcoming challenges during races.
Derrick's wife, Candy, plays a crucial role in his support system during races.
He believes in the power of community and helping others in the ultra running space.
Derrick's first 200-mile race taught him about endurance and mental resilience.
He aims to participate in the Vol State 500K, a self-supported race.
Derrick's training includes calisthenics, weight lifting, and stretching to prevent injuries.
He values humility and draws inspiration from his upbringing and experiences.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Derrick Baker
02:25 Derrick's Journey into Ultra Running
09:23 Training Regimen and Balancing Strength with Endurance
17:10 Mentality and Philosophy Behind Training
26:59 Experiences in Ultra Running and Community Engagement
Episode 28: Rhythm & Resilience: Warren Kimball on Negative-Splitting 100 Miles
Episode 28
Tuesday, October 7, 2025 • Duration 01:10:31
Warren Kimball—two-time Boston finisher, 100-mile ultra winner, and LSU musicologist—joins us to blend art and endurance. We dig into his 15:35 at Tunnel Hill (closed strong with a negative split), plant-powered fueling, staying calm early, and turning repetition into mastery—on the piano and on the run. Plus: training after setbacks, pacing by feel, and why gratitude beats “suffer mode” for the long haul.
takeaways
Warren's journey into running began after significant life changes.
He lost 75 pounds and embraced running as a lifestyle.
The connection between music and running is profound for Warren.
He transitioned from marathons to ultra running after discovering trail races.
Warren's first 100-mile race was a significant achievement for him.
He emphasizes the importance of mental strategies in endurance sports.
Training for Tunnel Hill involved a mix of speed work and long runs.
Pacing strategies were crucial for his success at Tunnel Hill.
Warren experienced a strong finish, running negative splits in the second half.
He reflects on the joy of running and the importance of gratitude in his journey.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Endurance and Music
02:09 Warren's Journey into Endurance Sports
06:49 The Transition from Music to Running
13:17 The Connection Between Music and Endurance
17:52 Exploring Ultra Running and Its Challenges
25:04 The Marathon to Ultra Transition
26:12 The Journey of Ultra Running
27:50 Health Challenges and Resilience
29:49The Shift Back to Marathons
Episode 27: Bricks, Gels, and Giants: What Pogi & the Norwegians Teach Us
Tuesday, September 30, 2025 • Duration 01:16:03
No guest—just Anthony and Zach catching up after work travel and stacked weeks. We trade notes on chasing Strava crowns coast-to-coast, a rope-assist climb at Mount Storm King, and turning a seven-day, 36-holes-a-day golf trip into a stealth ultra. We shout out recent guests (Travis, Jed, Hezekiah, Chris), celebrate comebacks and dubs, and sketch a new negative-split strategy for Tunnel Hill. Plus: what the Norwegians, Pogacar, and Sifan Hassan teach us about pacing and fueling, first impressions of the WHOOP, Tim Irving’s Ivy Trek race, and what’s next (Clear Creek, Tunnel Hill, Rocket City). Laid-back, a little messy, and very real—aka a coffee ride episode.
takeaways
The importance of staying accountable in training despite busy schedules.
Recent guests have provided valuable insights into endurance training and nutrition.
Travel experiences can impact training routines and performance.
Exploring new training strategies can lead to improved performance.
Technology plays a significant role in tracking and enhancing training.
Maintaining a consistent running routine is satisfying and beneficial.
Community support is crucial for endurance athletes.
Nutrition strategies should align with training intensity and goals.
Upcoming races provide motivation and goals for athletes.
The evolution of endurance training continues to be influenced by new research and technology.
Chapters
00:00 Catching Up: The Hosts' Journey
03:29 Reflections on Recent Guests
06:30 The Power of Community and Accountability
09:32 Travel Tales: Adventures on the Road
12:41 Chasing Goals: Running and Training Insights
15:22 Exploring the Great Outdoors: Hiking Adventures
18:35The Beauty of Nature: Mountains vs. Beach Life
Episode 26: More in the Tank: The Endurance Journey of Travis Stewart
Episode 26
Tuesday, September 23, 2025 • Duration 01:04:13
In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Travis Stewart—a husband, dad, and real estate professional whose endurance journey began during COVID with the Couch to 5K program. What started as a way to cope during a tough season quickly grew into something bigger: running led to cycling, cycling led to triathlon, and soon Travis was toeing the line at three 70.3s, a full Ironman, Unbound 200, and the grueling Rule of Three.
But this story is about more than just miles and medals. Endurance sports helped Travis through some of life’s hardest moments, reshaped his mindset, and even led him to his wife Elisa—their love story unfolding on two wheels. From crashing weeks before Unbound to crossing the finish line against all odds, Travis has learned that the greatest battle isn’t against the course or the clock—it’s against yourself.
Tune in for a conversation about grit, faith, and the power of simply moving forward, one step or pedal stroke at a time.
takeaways
Travis's journey into endurance sports began during COVID-19.
He transitioned from running to cycling and triathlons.
Endurance sports helped him cope with personal challenges.
Travis proposed to his wife during a bike ride.
He faced a serious accident while supporting his wife in a race.
Pushing through pain can lead to personal breakthroughs.
Endurance sports serve as a form of therapy for Travis.
Nutrition plays a crucial role in athletic performance.
Travis emphasizes the importance of mental resilience.
He encourages others to focus on their own journey.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Endurance Sports Journey
04:38 The Impact of Endurance Sports on Life
10:41 From Couch to 70.3: The Transformation
16:40 Love and Endurance: A Unique Connection
22:47Overcoming Adversity: The Injury Story
Episode 25: Where Community Rides Begin: Jed’s Perfect Endurance Bikes and the Jed Darby Story
Episode 25
Tuesday, September 16, 2025 • Duration 01:08:11
From the heart of Hattiesburg’s Longleaf Trace, Jed Darby has built more than a bike shop—he’s built a movement. The Cajun-born runner-turned-cyclist/coach shares how early boxing shaped his endurance mindset, why he qualified for Boston (and Kona) then chose the work over the spotlight, and what he learned from coaching greats like Rick Crawford. We dig into the science—zone 2, stress-adapt-recover, fit and position—and the culture: Tuesday Night Worlds, true no-drop group rides, Hub City Velo, and why community beats ego every time. Plus, the story behind Jed’s Perfect Bikes & Brew (yes, those protein balls), and how a welcoming space can turn weekend riders into lifelong athletes. If you love endurance, mentorship, and Mississippi grit, this one’s for you.
Takeaways
Jed Darby emphasizes the importance of community in cycling.
He transitioned from boxing to cycling, showcasing a unique journey.
Jed's competitive spirit has led to numerous accomplishments in endurance sports.
Coaching plays a crucial role in developing athletes' potential.
The bike shop serves as a hub for local cyclists and fosters community engagement.
Training dynamics and understanding the science behind endurance are vital for success.
Jed believes in the balance of talent and hard work in sports.
He highlights the evolution of cycling technology and its impact on performance.
A strong foundation in training is essential for long-term success.
Jed reflects on his personal achievements and the joy of competition.
Chapters 00:00 Building a Community Through Endurance Sports
02:36 The Journey into Endurance Sports
05:06 From Boxing to Cycling: A Unique Path
08:41 Competitive Achievements and Personal Growth
13:05 Coaching and Influencing Future Champions
23:10Golf Coaching Insights
Episode 24: Hezzy, Faith, and 125 Miles: The Leap of Hezekiah Miller
Episode 24
Tuesday, September 9, 2025 • Duration 01:16:32
At just 23, Hezekiah “Hezzy” Miller is a walking shot of energy gel—equal parts hype man and humble grinder. Raised in the Mississippi Delta, Hezzy went from black-sheep kid to endurance engine, once jumping from two miles to a DIY 50-miler in two weeks (yes, really). But this conversation goes far deeper than mileage. He opens up about depression, the sticky-note practice that kept him here “one more day,” and how surrendering to faith reshaped his purpose into serving others—on and off the course.
Now, he’s uprooting his life for a role at the Mayo Clinic and setting his sights on a 125-mile race next spring. We unpack why he loves the suffering, how “just keep swimming” became his reset, and why supporting other runners might be his real superpower. It’s high vibes, hard truths, and a powerful reminder that love—and purpose—outlast hate.
Listen, share with someone who needs this, and drop Hezzy a note of encouragement.
takeaways
Hezekiah's journey is marked by resilience and selflessness.
He found his passion for running as a response to doubt.
Pain and suffering are integral to personal growth.
Community support plays a crucial role in endurance sports.
Hezekiah's first race was a significant milestone in his journey.
He believes in running one's own race, regardless of others' expectations.
The philosophy of embracing pain can lead to a deeper understanding of life.
Hezekiah's motivation comes from helping others in need.
He values the journey over the destination in endurance running.
His experiences highlight the importance of mental toughness. Hezekiah describes himself as a black sheep in his family.
He faced emotional trauma and isolation growing up.
He learned to suppress his emotions due to his upbringing.
Running became a pivotal part of his healing journey.
He made a promise to himself to be the best version of himself.
He emphasizes the importance of faith in overcoming challenges.
He reflects on the blessings of being able to provide for himself.
He encourages others to take leaps of faith, even when scared.
Episode 23: Two Mics, One Scramble: Reflections on Grit & Growth
Episode 23
Tuesday, September 2, 2025 • Duration 01:11:10
In this special episode of Endurance State of Mind, it’s just Zach and Anthony behind the mics. The guys swap endurance shoes for golf spikes as they recount their first scramble together in Hattiesburg, where the “student became the teacher” and golf proved to be a surprising mirror for running lessons. From patience and humility on the fairway to battling the “lies” in endurance training, they reflect on recent guest takeaways, Zach’s powerful return to Banff for his 6-year sobriety milestone, and Anthony’s breakthrough workouts. Expect a fun mix of laughs, rapid-fire analogies, and deep reflections on how growth shows up in both sport and life.
takeaways
Endurance lessons apply to various aspects of life, including sports like golf.
Facing challenges in unfamiliar activities can lead to personal growth.
Community support is crucial in endurance sports and personal journeys.
Mental barriers often hold us back more than physical limitations.
Reflecting on past experiences can provide valuable insights for the future.
Sobriety can lead to profound personal transformations and reflections.
Finding balance between work, life, and training is essential for success.
Overcoming doubts and fears is a common theme in endurance sports.
The journey of improvement is often about small, consistent steps.
Celebrating milestones, no matter how small, is important for motivation.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Endurance State of Mind
02:52 Golfing Experience and Lessons Learned
08:34 Reflections on Golf and Endurance
13:18 Understanding Golf Handicaps and Their Analogies
22:50 Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts
22:52 Golf Tournament Highlights
25:44 Creative Collaborations with Brian
Episode 22: The Comeback Story: Chris Mixon’s Return to Ultra Running
Episode 22
Tuesday, August 26, 2025 • Duration 01:05:49
In this episode of Endurance State of Mind, we sit down with Chris Mixon—an ultra runner with podium finishes at the Pinhoti 100 and Lake Martin 100, and a course record at Fondren Urban Ultra. But what makes this conversation powerful isn’t just his racing resume—it’s the fact that Chris is sharing his story mid-comeback. After surgery, setbacks, and months of painful recovery, he’s opening up about the mental battle of rebuilding, the lies injuries whisper, and the resilience it takes to believe your best days are still ahead. With his return to racing just weeks away, Chris talks about faith, family, grit, and the deeper lessons running teaches about life itself.
“Alright folks, we tried to wrap this thing up all professional, but then the real ultra-marathon began. trying to find Chris Mixon’s Strava account. Three grown men, collectively with decades of racing miles, completely defeated by a search bar. We scrolled, we typed, we squinted at our phones like we were 80 years old at the eye doctor. Turns out, running 100 miles is easier than finding your buddy on Strava. Don’t worry, we eventually found him beanie pic, frozen sideburns go give Chris a follow. Just don’t ask us to teach a tech class anytime soon.”
takeaways
The physical battle is only half the challenge.
Injuries can lead to growth if we examine our mindset.
Choosing to see purpose in hardships is crucial.
The victim mentality leads to burnout and bitterness.
Struggles amplify self-doubt, but they can be overcome.
Community support is vital in endurance sports.
Mental resilience is built through consistent training.
Every setback has the potential for a comeback.
Running teaches us about life and perseverance.
Setting goals and making plans is essential for success.
