Explore every episode of the podcast Empowering Industry Podcast - A Production of Empowering Pumps & Equipment
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| Breaking Barriers: Women Leading in HVACR | 08 sept. 2025 | 00:24:21 | |
Kristin Gallup joins Charli this week to talk about her empowering journey in HVACR and how she came to be a leader in the space. Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| From Radio Waves to Motors with Bruce Fox | 01 sept. 2025 | 00:18:56 | |
Charli is joined by Bruce Fox this week of WWE (not that WWE), WorldWide Electric! Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Solving Industry Challenges with Progressive Cavity Pumps | 25 août 2025 | 00:20:04 | |
This week Charli is joined by Dylon De Atley, EIT. Dylon is the Southwest Territory Manager for SEEPEX. Come learn how he got to where he is and how listening to your mother, and sometimes a move of necessity with in your company, can sometimes lead to a very fulfilling career.
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Innovation, Pumps, and the Art of Learning from Mistakes | 18 août 2025 | 00:23:51 | |
Charli is joined by Simon Bradshaw, the legend himself! Simon is the Global Director of Engineering and Technology at Trillium Flow Technologies Connect with Simon on LinkedIn
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Capitalizing on Chaos | 11 août 2025 | 00:30:31 | |
Charli is joined by her Coach, Rob! Rob is a new author but first he was Charli's leadership coach and before that... you'll have to listen to find out! #BeEmpowering Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Behind The Scenes at EASA | 28 juil. 2025 | 00:37:18 | |
This week Charli is "live" on location at EASA! Take a behind the scenes tour around the showroom floor as Charli checks out some of the companies in attendance this year!
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Industry Access | 21 juil. 2025 | 00:15:07 | |
This week our special guest is none other than Charli herself! Being interviewed by Bekah from the Empowering Pumps team. Charli is here to talk a bit about #IndustryAccess and she wants to hear from you!
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| From Retail to Reliability and Maintenance Excellence | 14 juil. 2025 | 00:19:18 | |
This week Charli is joined by Adrian Messer of SDT.
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Why Communication Wins in Engineering | 07 juil. 2025 | 00:20:25 | |
This week Charli has Taylor Goade on to talk communications and his time as an instructor for the Little Red Schoolhouse Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| From Maintenance to Mastery | 30 juin 2025 | 00:09:51 | |
We're bringing June to a close with Charles Sharp of Regal Rexnord! Charles has done a bit of everything in his substantial career, proving he's a valuable asset at Regal Rexnord. No challenge is too difficult for him! Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Total Cost of Ownership and the Future of Pump Innovation | 23 juin 2025 | 00:17:24 | |
This week Charli is joined by Tomas Dobrovolskis Connect with him on LinkedIn Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| What’s in the Water? Compliance, Chemistry, and Courage | 16 juin 2025 | 00:17:23 | |
Charli has Lindie Aragon on this week to talk about her work with water Lindie Aragon holds a Bachelor of Science in Ecology and Evolutionary Biology from the University of Colorado and a Master of Science in Environmental Science from the University of Idaho. With a strong academic foundation in biological and environmental systems, Lindie has built a dynamic career dedicated to water quality, laboratory science, and municipal environmental operations. She began her career as an intern, working hands-on sorting benthic macroinvertebrate samples—an experience that sparked a lasting interest in aquatic ecosystems and environmental monitoring. Lindie’s passion and diligence led her be hired full time at the laboratory, where she analyzed nutrient levels in water samples, performed Whole Effluent Toxicity Testing, and steadily advanced into lab management, overseeing operations and mentoring staff. In 2016, Lindie joined the City of Westminster as a chemist, where she continues to play a key role in ensuring water quality and environmental compliance through rigorous analysis and testing. Beyond her professional responsibilities, she has been a dedicated member of the Operations Challenge Team for eight years, demonstrating her technical skills, teamwork, and commitment to excellence in the water industry. Through her blend of scientific expertise, leadership, and hands-on experience, Lindie Aragon exemplifies a deep commitment to protecting water resources and supporting the health of both communities and the environment. Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Everything you need to know about EASA | 09 juin 2025 | 00:23:57 | |
This week Charli has LInda Raynes on to talk all about EASA! Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Engineering, Empowerment, and EPIC | 02 juin 2025 | 00:14:22 | |
Welcome Back! We're rested and ready to go with some awesome empowering interviews! We're kicking off June with Jose Tenorio, a Reliability Engineering Manager at John Crane Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Joyful Impact: From Africa to Industry | 12 mai 2025 | 00:13:45 | |
This week is a messages from the one and only, Charli. Just giving you an update on the next few weeks and whats coming up this summer/fall. #BeEmpowering
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| From Navy to CTO: Discipline, Pumps & Growth | 05 mai 2025 | 00:12:36 | |
Charli is joined by Zeki Oral this week to talk about about his journey and his trademark Kansas accent.
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Efficiency Starts with Reliability: Evolving Tools, Talent & Tech | 28 avr. 2025 | 00:37:27 | |
This week Charli is joined by not one but TWO industry pros with over 40 years experience each! The wealth of knowledge from Bob Jennings & Ken Babusiak in this episode is off the charts!
Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Innovation & Alignment: Jason Massey’s Plan to Grow A Line Manufacturing | 21 avr. 2025 | 00:13:37 | |
Charli is joined this week by relative new comer to the industry, Jason Massey! Jason recently took over his uncles business that has been operating since the 1980's Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Additive Manufacturing and Industry Transformation | 14 avr. 2025 | 00:20:39 | |
Fabian Alefeld joins Charli this to talk about additive manufacturing, where everything old is new again. Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Leadership, Mergers, and Industry Insights | 07 avr. 2025 | 00:14:04 | |
Charli has Jim Aubrey on for a brief chat about what is going on in his side of the industry. Connect with Jim on LinkedIn and see what you can learn! Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Data Center Boom: Engineering the Next Generation of Cooling | 31 mars 2025 | 00:19:07 | |
Charli sits down with long time friend of the pod Greg Case to talk about the ongoing data center boom and what that means for us and you Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Operation Leadership | 24 mars 2025 | 00:27:39 | |
Charli sits down with new friend of the pod and Veteran, Craig Coyle, to talk about leadership and his approach to it. Join us at EPIC, November 5th and 6th at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, TX Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Decarbonization and the Road Ahead | 17 mars 2025 | 00:23:36 | |
This week Todd Bush joins Charli on the pod to talk Decarbonization and how industries are looking to turn a once written off by product into a commodity. Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Managing Uncertainty | 10 mars 2025 | 00:11:12 | |
This week it's your hostest with the mostest, Charli! She's flying solo to talk about uncertainty and how to go about handling it. The world is full of uncertainty these days and any way someone can cope is always a welcome insight. Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Engineering, Innovation, and Opportunity: An Engineer's Wonderland | 03 mars 2025 | 00:14:27 | |
Carlos D. Girão from Teadit joins Charli on the pod today. Carlos has literally traveled across the world with Teadit going from Brazil to India and back on his journey. Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Empowering Women in Industry | 24 févr. 2025 | 00:05:47 | |
Today you get Charli flying solo doing what she loves, talking to all of you. She sat down to give a quick talk about the upcoming month and Women's History Month. Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Beyond Fluid Sealing | 17 févr. 2025 | 00:16:21 | |
This week Charli has Nick Stidham on to talk about his experience in the pump world through SEPCO Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| A 40-Year Journey in Power Transmission & Motion Control | 10 févr. 2025 | 00:20:34 | |
Jeff Pangborn jumps on with Charli this week! As a lifelong vet of the industry, Jeff lives and breathes the power tram and motor control world from grade school to adulthood. Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Automation, Robotics, and Industry Collaboration | 03 févr. 2025 | 00:17:58 | |
Exciting week as Charli goes international with Julia and Franziska of Rethink Robotics! Julia Astrid Riemenschneider, CEO of Rethink Robotics, started her professional career in the tourism industry, where she served six years in various sales, marketing, and product management roles. While working on her master’s degree in sales management, she switched to the world of automation and manufacturing. As a project manager at advacon, a consulting firm focused on small and medium-sized industrial companies, Riemenschneider was mentored by former managers from Rittal, which increased her expertise in business development. A consulting project for a leading company in sensor technology brought her to the United States, where she learned market-specific management and sales strategies. In later roles at a German-based vision system company, she was introduced to new technologies and the deeper integration of manufacturing processes. In 2019 Riemenschneider joined Universal Robots as the channel manager and later channel program manager. In these roles she worked with partners in Western Europe and developed new strategies for the alignment of integrators and distributors. In 2022 Riemenschneider joined United Robotics Group (URG). In charge of business development, she established a team of strong managers and implemented various business units and segments to serve different industries. Since September 2024, Riemenschneider has overseen URG endeavors in North America. As CEO of URG Inc. and affiliated company Rethink Robotics, she leads a team to grow the businesses’ market presence and increase sales growth. Franziska Lorenz is COO of Rethink Robotics and United Robotics Americas, both U.S. entities of United Robotics Group. In 2017, Lorenz graduated from Wiesbaden Business School with master’s degree in international business administration. She spent a semester in Mexico and worked in Spain and Italy during her undergraduate and graduate education. Lorenz started her career as executive assistant to the CEO at Schenck Process Group. Then she spent two years as M&A and integration manager in the same company, responsible for international acquisition projects on both the buy and sell sides. Lorenz joined United Robotics Group, an ecosystem of robotics companies combining both social and industrial robotics, in 2021 as corporate development manager and compliance officer, responsible for strategic growth of the group while focusing on governance and compliance. Since 2024 she’s been a member of the group’s leadership team. Find us @EmpoweringPumps on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram and Twitter and using the hashtag #EmpoweringIndustryPodcast or via email podcast@empoweringpumps.com | |||
| Mastering Surge Analysis | 27 janv. 2025 | 00:24:56 | |
Tom Hill joins the podcast this week and we are beyond thrilled! Tom has graciously decided to join us and put his extrovert hat on. Coming from an engineering family, you could say it was in his blood to become one himself. | |||
| Building Belonging in Construction | 20 janv. 2025 | 00:19:26 | |
Barb Allen joins Charli this week on the Podcast. Barb is a Queen of Empowerment, from working in male dominated fields to branching out on her own entrepreneurial journey to starting her very own subscription box service. Barb is truly an inspiration. | |||
| Pumping Innovation: Trends, AI, and Empowering the Future | 13 janv. 2025 | 00:25:53 | |
Vince joins Charli to talk all things pump industry this week as these two industry pros have a great New Year's chat. | |||
| Engineer Turned Patent Holder Improving Fuel Efficiency | 06 janv. 2025 | 00:23:23 | |
Welcome to 2025! Charli is kicking off a new year of The Empowering Industry Podcast with Inventor Natalia Galin! Natalia holds a PhD in Mathematics and Physics from the University of Tasmania, and a Bachelor of Engineering in Electrical Engineering from University of New South Wales. Her PhD dissertation is titled "Development of 2-8 GHz FMCW radar for helicopter borne estimation of snow over sea ice in Antarctica." Natalia has published several research papers and holds patents for her work. Some links to how people can reach me: - Website (pump specific)
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| Varnish Analysis, Sustainability, and Legacy | 03 déc. 2024 | 00:16:53 | |
Charli is wrapping up 2024 with the incredible Elaine Hepley!
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| The Stress Less Guide | 18 nov. 2024 | 00:26:33 | |
A special treat as Charli brings long time friend and former collegiate Professor Dr. Susan Fant on the podcast this week! Connect with Susan:
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| Interactive Learning, on-Demand Content, and AI Integration | 11 nov. 2024 | 00:17:41 | |
Charli has Bill Fisher on the pod this week to talk learning and how to bring AI into the process. | |||
| Intelligent Reliability Solutions | 04 nov. 2024 | 00:26:16 | |
Starting November off with a double whammy! Andy and Robert from Regal Rexnord join Charli on the pod today!
Robert joined Regal Rexnord in July of 2018. He has more than 20 years of experience in executive leadership, sales, marketing, and strategy. Prior to joining Regal Rexnord, Robert has been a company founder and held leadership positions across companies in manufacturing (Johnson Controls), industrial distribution (Interline Brands), and retail (The Home Depot). He has been involved with The Digital Value Institute, collaborating with highly accomplished CIOs and IT futurists on how digital strategies can create value across enterprises. Robert was previously the eCommerce initiative leader and Director of Strategic Marketing for the Regal Rexnord MCS Segment. He has a bachelor’s degree in business administration from Flagler College and an MBA from Ohio State University.
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| From Engineering to Product Leadership | 30 oct. 2024 | 00:22:28 | |
One more Bonus just in time for EPIC! Charli has Hannah Verrall from Sundyne on to talk about her experiences. | |||
| How IoT and Innovation Shape the Future of Water Management | 28 oct. 2024 | 00:17:25 | |
Charli has Asha Budhlall on this week to talk about how her journey to Product Management in the Pump Space. Asha Budhlall is a talented Product Manager at Mueller Water Products, specializing in potable water pipe assessment and monitoring technologies. With extensive hands-on experience in operations and product management, she excels in developing and deploying innovative solutions for critical distribution and transmission systems. Asha is passionate about enhancing efficiency and sustainability by leveraging technology to address water challenges, driving impactful change in the industry. About Mueller Water Products, Inc. Mueller Water Products, Inc. is a leading manufacturer and marketer of products and services used in the transmission, distribution, and measurement of water in North America. Our broad product and service portfolio includes engineered valves, fire hydrants, pipe connection and repair products, metering products, leak detection, pipe condition assessment, pressure management products, and software technology that provides critical water system data. We help municipalities increase operational efficiencies, improve customer service and prioritize capital spending, demonstrating why Mueller Water Products is Where Intelligence Meets Infrastructure®. Visit us at www.muellerwaterproducts.com.
To learn more about our Leak Detection products visit Echologics, a Mueller brand -- https://www.echologics.com/contact/
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| Digital Transformation of Wastewater Utility Pump Stations | 23 oct. 2024 | 00:16:49 | |
It's a special evening Bonus Pod featuring Pascal Lang! | |||
| Marketing, Mentorship, and Sustainability | 21 oct. 2024 | 00:24:26 | |
This week Charli has Mike McClurg on the pod for some generational awesomeness! Prior to Load Controls McClurg ran Velocity Sales for Actifio (acquired by Google) and was Global Vice President of Sales for IBM’s Midmarket Sales organization. He previous had international sales management experience at EMC (acquired by Dell) and started his career in software development and product marketing. McClurg has been named a CRN ‘Channel Chief’ four times. He has a BS in Engineering from Tufts University and an MBA in Entrepreneurship from Babson College.
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| Customer-Centric Innovation & Collaboration | 14 oct. 2024 | 00:22:38 | |
Empowering Pumps Partner, UE's Joe Mancini joins Charli this week on the pod. | |||
| From Well Drilling to Director in the Pump Industry | 07 oct. 2024 | 00:23:49 | |
We are kicking off October Mondays with with Kevin Morrison from EBARA to get things moving as we learn how he quite literally came up in the industry. | |||
| Human Connection in a Digital World | 03 oct. 2024 | 00:38:16 | |
Bonus Pod Time! And this one is long time friend, mentor, and former teacher of your very own podcast host Charli K Matthews, Brian Winters! In 2010, Brian started going to Uganda, where he fell in love with the people and the country. He now travels there twice each year. Brian has been married to Shawn for 37 years (of marital bliss), and they have one son, Chase, who now is a police officer in Northport. He is an elder at Capstone Church, where he is considered the “Old People” of Capstone.When he is not in Uganda, he enjoys spending time at their cabin on the Tombigbee and smoking ribs or briskets. Ruthless Elimination of Hurry - John Mark Comer The Anxious Generation – Jonathan Haidt
Read up at EmpoweringPumps.com and stay tuned for more news about EPIC at the Colorado School of Mines Nov 12th and 13th. | |||
| From Architecture to Engineering Leadership | 30 sept. 2024 | 00:23:41 | |
Charli has Kathy Nelson on this week to talk donuts and how she landed on engineering. Ms. Nelson is a strong supporter of women in STEM, hosting a podcast “Ordinarily Extraordinary – conversations with women in STEM”. Ms. Nelson resides in Minnesota and is the mother to three adult children and a lively sheepadoodle dog. Read up at EmpoweringPumps.com and stay tuned for more news about EPIC at the Colorado School of Mines Nov 12th and 13th. | |||
| ASPE’s Vision, Convention Plans, and Industry Impact | 26 sept. 2024 | 00:13:52 | |
It's bonus time! Charli has Brian Henry on to talk about ASPE! He is married to Christine (35 yrs), with three children, Ethan(30), Allie(28), Audrey(14). Along with spending family time at the beach with the family, umpiring baseball is a passion. Read up at EmpoweringPumps.com and stay tuned for more news about EPIC at the Colorado School of Mines Nov 12th and 13th. | |||
| eMarketing to mitigating premature bearing failure. | 23 sept. 2024 | 00:16:00 | |
Charli has Sean Cleary on this week, one of Empowering's Partners! | |||
| IIoT Advancements in Sealing Technology | 16 sept. 2024 | 00:14:40 | |
Charli has long time friend of the pod, John Brennen, on this week to have a chat the advancement of Industry. | |||
| Unlocking Industrial AI | 09 sept. 2024 | 00:16:17 | |
This week Charli has Humera Malik on the pod to talk about how AI is already making Industry better. | |||
| Mastering Change: How to Influence, Evolve, and Innovate | 02 sept. 2024 | 00:33:12 | |
Charli is joined by long time friend of the pod, Jeff Shiver this week to talk change.
Jeff has over 25+ years of practitioner experience. Within Mars North America, he worked at four plant locations and held two corporate roles. Job functions included Engineering, Maintenance, and Operations management. Before Mars, he held contract engineering positions at Proctor and Gamble, and IBM.
Founding People and Processes, Inc. in 2006, Jeff is a trusted advisor for the maintenance and reliability community. Certified in maintenance and reliability best practices, he holds the SMRP Certified Maintenance and Reliability Professional (CMRP), Asset Reliability Practitioner Cat I, II, & III, Certified Reliability Leader (CRL), AFE’s Certified Professional Maintenance Manager (CPMM), ICML’s Machinery Lubrication Technician (MLT), and is a certified RCM 2 & 3 Practitioner with The Aladon Network.
He is a book author, conference speaker, thought leader, and published in domestic and international trade journals. Jeff is also the past Membership Services Director for the Society of Maintenance and Reliability Professionals (SMRP). Jeff was recently listed as one of the top one hundred professionals to follow by Upkeep.
Read up at EmpoweringPumps.com and stay tuned for more news about EPIC at the Colorado School of Mines Nov 12th and 13th. | |||