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Empire City: The Untold Origin Story of the NYPD
Wondery | Crooked Media
Frequency: 1 episode/19d. Total Eps: 13

The police tell us they are here to protect us. But what if their original purpose was something else altogether? Peabody Award-winning host Chenjerai Kumanyika takes listeners on a journey to uncover the hidden history of the largest police force in the world – from its roots in slavery, to rival police gangs battling across the city, to everyday people who resisted every step of the way. As our society debates where policing is going, Empire City: The Untold Origin Story of the NYPD explores where the police came from.
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
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Introducing: Empire City: The Untold Origin Story of the NYPD
lundi 26 août 2024 • Duration 02:58
The police tell us they are here to protect us. But what if their original purpose was something else altogether? Peabody Award-winning host Chenjerai Kumanyika takes listeners on a journey to uncover the hidden history of the largest police force in the world – from its roots in slavery, to rival police gangs battling across the city, to everyday people who resisted every step of the way. As our society debates where policing is going, Empire City: The Untold Origin Story of the NYPD explores where the police came from.
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
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If It Bleeds It Leads | 2
Episode 2
lundi 9 septembre 2024 • Duration 42:30
Before the NYPD existed, New Yorkers strongly opposed the idea of an armed police force – until a powerful news publisher changed everything. After a grisly murder takes place, the city’s newspapers sensationalize the story, blame the cops, and a new force is born. But will these cops work to solve the case or will they spend their days hunting something–or someone–else?
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the police, about America, and about democracy.
Voices & References:
Ed O’Donnell https://edwardtodonnell.com/
Greg Young https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/about-us
Alan Singer https://www.hofstra.edu/faculty-staff/faculty-profile.html?id=1412
Wilbur Miller https://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/history/people/_emeriti/miller.php
Jon Wells https://www.jonathandanielwells.com/
Mariame Kaba https://mariamekaba.com/
The Bowery Boys podcast https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/bowery-boys-first/bowery-boys-podcast
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They Keep People Safe | 1
Episode 1
lundi 9 septembre 2024 • Duration 43:17
Chenjerai takes us back to the summer of 1835, when Black New Yorkers are being kidnapped and sold into slavery in the south. But their friends and families can’t call the cops, because it turns out the kidnappers are the cops…can a group of Black resistance fighters stop it?
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the police, about America, and about democracy.
Voices & References:
Mariame Kaba: https://mariamekaba.com/
Jon Wells: https://www.jonathandanielwells.com/
Wilbur Miller: https://www.stonybrook.edu/commcms/history/people/_emeriti/miller.php
The Kidnapping Club: Wall Street, Slavery, and Resistance on the Eve of the Civil War: https://www.amazon.com/Kidnapping-Club-Street-Slavery-Resistance/dp/156858752X
The Congress of Racial Equality: https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/congress-racial-equality-core
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What’s Done Can Be Undone | 3
Episode 3
lundi 16 septembre 2024 • Duration 40:31
New York’s power-hungry mayor weaponizes the police to help him control the city – and bulldoze a thriving Black community for his own real estate profits. The state, fearing that the mayor and his police have become too strong, wage a war for control – and create their own rival force.
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the police, about America, and about democracy.
Voices & References:
Jeff Broxmeyer https://www.jeffbroxmeyer.com/
Mariame Kaba https://mariamekaba.com/
Leslie Alexander https://drlesliealexander.com/
Gregg Simmons https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4206025/
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Stay Dangerous | 8
Episode 8
lundi 21 octobre 2024 • Duration 47:53
The NYPD loves to show off its diversity, but it often hides how hard and long it fought that diversity. Chenjerai takes us back in time to the real story of how the NYPD got its first Black cop – and how decades later, Black cops went to war with the NYPD’s union to push for civilian oversight of the police. But how effective is reform if the police are still only accountable to themselves?
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the Police, about America, and about Democracy.
Voices & References:
Edwin Raymond: https://x.com/edwinraymondnyc
Khalil Gibran Muhammed: https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty/khalil-gibran-muhammad
Natalie Cherot: https://nataliecherot.com/
Andrew Darien: https://directory.salemstate.edu/profile/andrew.darien
An Inconvenient Cop: My Fight to Change Policing in America https://www.amazon.com/Inconvenient-Cop-Change-Policing-America/dp/0593653165
The Watchmen: https://www.hbo.com/watchmen
The Congress of Racial Equality: https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/congress-racial-equality-core
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The American Problem | 7
Episode 7
lundi 14 octobre 2024 • Duration 38:28
New York’s police start to realize that beating up and arresting immigrants is making them distrustful of cops. In response, a police chief has an idea, borne out of his time colonizing the Philippines: control the population by recruiting local community members to police their own people.
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the police, about America, and about democracy.
Voices & References:
Asad Dandia https://www.newyorknarratives.com/our-narrative
Matt Guariglia https://www.matthewguariglia.com/
Daniel Czitrom https://www.mtholyoke.edu/directory/emeriti-retired-faculty/daniel-czitrom
Albert Samaha https://www.albertsamaha.com/
New York Narratives https://www.newyorknarratives.com/
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The Rotten Orchard | 6
Episode 6
lundi 7 octobre 2024 • Duration 40:11
It’s like clockwork: every 20 years or so, a corruption scandal forces the NYPD into the hot seat. But how did this cycle begin? To find out, we go back over a century ago to the very first investigation into the police where the NYPD is put on trial like never before.
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the police, about America, and about democracy.
Voices & References:
Carol Safir
Daniel Czitrom https://www.mtholyoke.edu/directory/emeriti-retired-faculty/daniel-czitrom
Cait Murphy
Bill Williams, descendant of Clubber Williams
Leslie Cornfeld
Scoundrels in Law: The Trials of Howe and Hummel, Lawyers to the Gangsters, Cops, Starlets, and Rakes Who Made the Gilded Age
https://www.amazon.com/Scoundrels-Law-Lawyers-Gangsters-Starlets/dp/0061714283
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The Moral Crusade | 5
Episode 5
lundi 30 septembre 2024 • Duration 39:58
Officers in early New York didn’t just police the city’s vice economy; they profited from it. But when America’s first professional vice fighter Anthony Comstock strong-arms the NYPD into enforcing his vision of morality, he also transformed how and what we police.
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the police, about America, and about democracy.
Voices & References:
Amy Werbel https://www.fitnyc.edu/creative-nexus/faculty/directory/werbel-amy.php
Bill Williams, descendant of Clubber Williams
Jennifer Wright https://www.jenashleywright.com/
Lust On Trial: Censorship and the Rise of American Obscenity in the Age of Anthony Comstock https://www.amazon.com/Lust-Trial-Censorship-American-Obscenity/dp/0231175221
Madame Restell: The Life, Death, and Resurrection of Old New York’s Most Fabulous, Fearless, and Infamous Abortionist
https://www.amazon.com/Madame-Restell-Resurrection-Fabulous-Abortionist/dp/0306826798
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They’ve Got Weapons | 4
Episode 4
lundi 23 septembre 2024 • Duration 46:53
Horrific race riots erupt when New York City starts to draft soldiers into the Civil War. A mob of white people, who resent fighting for emancipation, direct their rage at the Black community as well as the police… and all hell breaks loose. The NYPD pushes for more firearms – but will they use them to protect New York’s most vulnerable, or subdue them?
From Wondery, Crooked Media and PushBlack.
Empire City is made with a commitment to ensure the stories of those who were and are still impacted by the NYPD are always part of the stories we tell ourselves about the police, about America, and about democracy.
Voices & References:
Ed O’Donnell https://edwardtodonnell.com/
Kamau Ware https://kamauware.com/
Kevin McGruder https://antiochcollege.edu/team-members/kevin-mcgruder/
Daniel Czitrom https://www.mtholyoke.edu/directory/emeriti-retired-faculty/daniel-czitrom
Black Gotham https://blackgotham.com/
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Black History, For Real: NYPD's Secret Story | For Real, For Real | 9
Episode 9
mercredi 23 octobre 2024 • Duration 42:21
"Woop! Woop! That’s the sound of da police! Conscious and Frankie welcome Dr. Chenjerai Kumanyika – host of Empire City: The Untold Origin Story of the NYPD. Dr. Kumanyika’s podcast is a deeply personal tale of his relationship to policing, the history of the NYPD and its long reaching impact in police departments across the nation. Are the police truly functioning as designed? Does their origin begin and end as slave catching patrols? Today’s conversation brings humor and depth to the exploration of that fraught history.
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