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Join us on episode one of Eating History as we explore the fascinating origins of pizza. Hosts Adrienne Cheatham and Stephen Bailey start at the very beginning. Discover how this beloved dish evolved from ancient flatbreads to a global icon. Topics Covered: The beginnings of flatbread in ancient Persia Pizza's evolution through Roman and Middle Eastern cultures The introduction of tomatoes to Europe and their impact Stories of early pizza vendors in Naples How a royal decree helped popularize pizza worldwide Perfect for food lovers and history enthusiasts alike, this episode uncovers the rich history behind every slice.

In episode two of Eating History, hosts Adrienne Cheatham and Stephen Bailey continue the saga of Pizza’s origins. Discover the intriguing story of how pizza evolved from a simple Neapolitan street food to a symbol of Italian identity. Was it truly a royal favorite, or just a clever marketing tale?  Topics Covered: The legendary story of Queen ’s pizza Pizza as a symbol of Italian pride The iconic tomato, mozzarella, and basil combo How migration spread pizza globally Perfect for food enthusiasts and history lovers, this episode uncovers the fascinating origins of pizza and its journey to becoming a global icon.

Every bite has a backstory. Welcome to Eating History, the podcast that serves up the wild, scandalous, and mouth-watering tales behind the foods that changed the world. Join Michelin-starred chef and Top Chef runner-up Adrienne Cheatham and her husband, history buff Stephen Bailey, as they pair elite culinary expertise with epic historical deep-dives. For Season 1, we’re slicing into the ultimate global obsession: Pizza. Discover how a dirt-cheap street food from the back alleys of Naples conquered the globe, sparked endless fiery debates, and built a multi-billion-dollar empire. Along the way, you’ll cross paths with emperors, immigrants, hustlers, chefs, and royalty—the fascinating people who turned food into history. Grab a seat at the table. New episodes drop every Wednesday!

In episode three of Eating History, hosts Adrienne Cheatham and Stephen Bailey follow pizza across the Atlantic as it makes its way from the streets of Naples to the immigrant neighborhoods of New York City. Discover how pioneers like Gennaro Lombardi helped transform pizza from a quick street snack into a sit-down dining experience, setting the stage for America's pizza obsession. Topics Covered: Gennaro Lombardi and the birth of New York's early pizzerias The surprising ingredient differences between Italy and the United States Pizza's evolution in New Haven, Buenos Aires, São Paulo, and beyond The role of pizzerias as community gathering places How World War II helped spark America's pizza craze The rise of regional pizza styles across the United States From New York storefronts to regional styles across the Americas, this episode follows the fascinating evolution of pizza as it finds new identities far from Naples.

In episode four of Eating History, hosts Adrienne Cheatham and Stephen Bailey dive into one of pizza’s greatest debates: how did America’s regional pizza styles emerge, and why do people defend them so fiercely? From wartime Chicago to the factories of Detroit, they explore the innovators who transformed pizza from an immigrant tradition into a distinctly American phenomenon. Topics Covered: The origins of Chicago deep dish pizza The partnership that launched Pizzeria Uno How deep dish challenged conventional ideas of what pizza could be The key differences between Chicago and New York pizza The rise of Detroit-style pizza and its automotive roots Regional pizza identities and rivalries across America The growth of pizza franchising and commercialization The tension between preserving tradition and expanding access From deep dish pioneers to Detroit innovators, this episode uncovers the personalities, business decisions, and cultural forces that helped shape America's pizza landscape, and sparked debates that are still raging today.

In episode five of Eating History, Adrienne and Stephen explore the battle that changed pizza forever. What happens when a beloved local food becomes a national business? From a small pizza shop founded by two brothers in Kansas to the rise of massive restaurant chains, this episode examines how franchising transformed pizza from a regional specialty into one of the world's most recognizable foods. Topics Covered: The founding stories of Pizza Hut, Domino’s, and more How franchising revolutionized the pizza business The shift from regional pizza traditions to standardized products Why chain restaurants made pizza accessible across America The rise of Pizza Hut, Domino's, and Little Caesars The ongoing tension between independent pizzerias and national chains The birth and growth of the frozen pizza industry Pizza's surprising journey back to northern Italy How pizza became a truly global food From neighborhood pizzerias to international corporations, this episode traces the business innovations, cultural shifts, and entrepreneurial gambles that turned pizza into a worldwide phenomenon.

In episode six of Eating History, Adrienne and Stephen follow pizza on an unexpected journey back home. After conquering America and much of the world, pizza returned to Italy transformed, forcing Italians to reconsider a food that had once been a regional specialty. Along the way, they explore how migration, globalization, and cultural exchange helped turn pizza into a true international phenomenon. Topics Covered: The spread of pizza beyond Naples and across Italy Luigi Giordano and the first modern pizzeria in northern Italy How southern Italian migration reshaped Italy's pizza culture The expansion of pizza throughout Europe The influence of American military bases on pizza's popularity abroad The "Pizza Effect" and how cultures reinvent their own traditions The surprising role of Dean Martin in pizza's global rise The creation of the Association of True Neapolitan Pizza Why Domino's struggled to find success in Italy How pizza adapted to local tastes around the world, from Europe to India From Naples to Milan, New York to New Delhi, this episode reveals how pizza became one of the world's most adaptable foods, and why its global success sparked a renewed debate over what makes a pizza truly authentic.

In episode seven of Eating History, hosts Adrienne Cheatham and Stephen Bailey explore the gourmet pizza revolution that transformed pizza from an everyday meal into a culinary canvas. From Beverly Hills restaurants to neighborhood pizzerias, they trace how innovative chefs, changing tastes, and new technologies challenged traditional ideas about what pizza could be. Topics Covered: How Wolfgang Puck and Ed LaDou launched the California pizza movement at Spago The rise of California Pizza Kitchen and the national spread of gourmet pizza The debate between tradition and innovation Chris Bianco in Arizona and the evolving definition of pizza authenticity How online communities turned pizza into an authenticity battleground The changing role of pizza during the COVID-19 pandemic Ghost kitchens, artificial intelligence, and the future of pizza The next generation of pizza innovation and experimentation From wood-fired ovens to viral debates, this episode examines how chefs, diners, and technology continue to reshape pizza while raising an enduring question: how much can a dish change before it becomes something entirely new?

In episode eight of Eating History, hosts Adrienne Cheatham and Stephen Bailey look ahead to the future of pizza while asking one final question: what is pizza now? After tracing its journey from the streets of Naples to every corner of the globe, they explore how technology, sustainability, and changing ideas about authenticity are shaping the next chapter of one of the world’s most beloved foods. Topics Covered: What pizza means in the modern world The debate between authenticity and “authentic-ish” pizza Ghost kitchens and delivery-only pizza brands Automation, robotics, and the future of pizza making Sustainability and pizza’s environmental impact 3D-printed pizza and emerging food technologies Questions of class, affordability, and accessibility The tension between innovation and tradition Japanese pizza culture and the pursuit of perfection through kaizen Pizza’s journey to space From ancient traditions to futuristic technologies, this season finale explores how pizza continues to evolve while remaining deeply connected to the people, places, and cultures that have shaped it.

Welcome to the first installment of Pizza Bites, a new series from Eating History featuring short stories from the evolution of pizza. This week, Adrienne and Stephen tackle one of the culinary world's most polarizing debates: pineapple on pizza. From an international controversy involving Iceland’s proposed ban to its true origins in Canada, they explore how a 1960s experiment by a Greek immigrant sparked a global phenomenon. In this episode: The international pineapple-on-pizza controversy, from Iceland to Canada How Greek immigrant Sam Panopoulos invented this variety at the Satellite Restaurant The mid-century food trends that drove sweet-and-savory flavor combinations Why the name "Hawaiian" comes from a canned fruit brand, not the state The transformation of Hawaiian pizza from a local curiosity to a global staple

In the third edition of Pizza Bites from Eating History, Adrienne and Stephen ask a big question: Is New Haven, Connecticut, the real pizza capital of America? Tune in to explore the intense family rivalries and unique coal-fired "apizza" that put this small city on the culinary map. In this episode: Why New Haven produces more elite pizza per capita than any other city in America The defining characteristics of coal-fired "apizza" (and how to properly pronounce it) The fierce, decades-long family rivalry between Frank Pepe's and Sally's Why a traditional New Haven plain pie often arrives without mozzarella cheese The delicious, rule-breaking innovation behind the famous white clam pizza

In the second Pizza Bite from Eating History, Adrienne and Stephen tackle America’s undisputed favorite pizza topping: pepperoni. From the surprising reality of ordering "peperoni" in Italy to its mysterious origins in early 20th-century New York, they explore how an Italian-American community creation transformed into a national culinary staple. In this episode: Why ordering a "pepperoni" pizza in Naples will get you a pie covered in bell peppers The 1919 debut of the word and its evolution from Southern Italian cured meat traditions The culinary science behind why pepperoni’s high fat content and paprika make it the perfect pizza topping The earliest documentation of a pepperoni pizza at The Spot in New Haven, Connecticut How post-WWII expansion turned this Italian-American invention into the default topping for one out of every three pizzas in America

Welcome to episode four of Pizza Bites! This week, Adrienne and Stephen tackle a fierce Midwestern debate: If Chicago is famous for deep-dish, why do most locals actually eat tavern-style pizza? Tune in to explore the 1930s neighborhood origins, the culinary differences, and the ultimate showdown between the city's two iconic pies. In this episode: The defining characteristics of tavern-style pie (crispy edges, caramelized cheese, and toppings to the rim) The 1930s tavern origins and the brilliant business strategy behind the square "party cut" The legendary baseball-related origin story of Home Run Inn Why deep-dish became the global tourist ambassador while tavern-style remained the true hometown favorite

Welcome to episode five of Pizza Bites! This week, Adrienne and Stephen explore how a single coal-fired oven in early 20th-century New York City sparked an entire culinary dynasty. Tune in to discover the intricate family tree of New York pizza and how master pizzaiolos passed down the unwritten secrets of the craft from one generation to the next. In this episode: Why serious pizza fans debate whether America's first licensed pizzeria was actually the first The legendary branches of the Lombardi's family tree: Totonno's, John's of Bleecker Street, and Patsy's How Adrienne and Stephen's personal Harlem favorite, Patsy's, helped carry them through the pandemic The dramatic story of Patsy Grimaldi and his enduring legacy Why the true secret to New York pizza isn't the water or the dough, it's mentor

This week, Stephen and Adrienne uncover the unexpected military history behind America's favorite food. When millions of servicemen returned home from Naples, their deep cravings transformed pizza from a regional Italian-American specialty into a nationwide phenomenon. In this episode: Why the strategic port of Naples became the greatest accidental pizza field trip in history The reality of wartime pizza: Why severe ingredient scarcity meant these slices looked very different from today's pizza How returning soldiers fueled pizza's rapid expansion across America Why the grassroots post-war pizza boom laid the essential groundwork for massive chains like Pizza Hut and Domino's