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Drumbeats - Canadian Indigenous Investment Podcast

Canadian Indigenous Investment Summit

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Frequency: 1 episode/17d. Total Eps: 76

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Drumbeats is the must-listen podcast for investors interested in Indigenous investment in Canada. Born from the Canadian Indigenous Investment Summit, the show focuses on the nexus of Indigenous economic strategies and investment opportunities.

Hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant, co-chairs of the Summit, lead engaging interviews and expert analyses that explore how these crucial conversations impact economic development within Indigenous communities and beyond.

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Why Global Investors Are Backing Canada's Indigenous Equity Model

Season 1

Thursday, April 30, 2026 • Duration 38:35

Adam Matthews is the Chief Responsible Investment Officer at the Church of England Pensions Board. He plays a key role in how major institutional investors assess mining companies and evaluate Canada’s Indigenous equity partnership model as part of how they allocate capital.

He also chairs the Global Investor Commission on Mining 2030, a coalition of 125 institutional investors managing about $19 trillion in assets, working to define how responsible investment in mining is properly applied and to translate those standards into investment practice.

In this episode of Drumbeats, Adam Matthews explains how institutional investors are building and applying risk and governance frameworks that shape responsible investment in mining, and how those frameworks are increasingly used to assess Indigenous partnership structures in Canada. In this conversation, you'll learn:

Why mining matters more to the global economy than what most investment portfolios show
What the Global Investor Commission on Mining 2030 is doing to reshape standards for responsible mining
The difference between real Free, Prior and Informed Consent (FPIC) and simple box-ticking compliance, and how investors tell them apart
How a new Investor Mining Performance Framework is being built to link Indigenous rights and mining standards to how investments are assessed
Why Canada’s Indigenous equity partnership model is getting more attention from large global investors
How global politics against ESG are affecting long-term investment strategies in the UK and Europe

This is why Canada’s Indigenous equity partnership model is gaining attention from global investors. It is being recognised as a practical benchmark for responsible mining, and is increasingly being built into the frameworks that shape how institutional capital evaluates mining projects.

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The Port of Churchill: Why Rotterdam and Antwerp Are Paying Attention

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Thursday, April 23, 2026 • Duration 39:59

The Port of Rotterdam is the largest port in the European Union. The Port of Antwerp is the second largest. Both are now formally partnered with The Port of Churchill in northern Canada. The Port of Churchill is Canada’s only deep-water Arctic seaport connected to the North American Class 1 rail network. Together with the 1,000-kilometre Hudson Bay Railway, it forms Canada’s Arctic Trade Corridor. A faster, emerging route linking North American resources directly to European markets. It is owned by 29 First Nations and 12 Northern Manitoba communities with over $250 million in combined federal and provincial infrastructure funding has been committed to laying the groundwork for expansion. In this episode of Drumbeats, hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant speak with Chris Avery, President and CEO of Arctic Gateway Group, to discuss the investment case behind this corridor and why institutional capital is starting to move in early. You’ll learn:

How Churchill connects to North America’s Class 1 rail network, cutting transit times by two to five days
Why Arctic shipping lanes are already viable for up to six months per year
What $250M+ in public funding is unlocking and how it de-risks private investment
The strategic implications of partnerships with Rotterdam and Antwerp
How an Indigenous ownership model is shaping long-term infrastructure governance

“Within ten years, I believe we will be the next major port in Canada.” — Chris Avery

The partnerships are in place. Private sector interest is growing. And the investment conversation is just getting started.

The only question now is timing.

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What 200 Investors Heard at London's Canadian Indigenous Investment Summit

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Thursday, April 16, 2026 • Duration 33:36

Nearly two hundred investors, lenders, and project principals gathered at the London Stock Exchange for the third annual Canadian Indigenous Investment Summit — and nobody left the sessions. One of Canada's Maple Eight pension funds noted that the corridors were empty all day: a small detail, and a precise one.

In this post-summit debrief, Drumbeats hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant go through what the room revealed — the conversations that moved furthest and the intelligence that matters for institutional capital with an interest in Canada.

On energy: A major LNG project in northwest British Columbia is approaching a final investment decision. The Indigenous nation involved holds a fifty-fifty equity stake. The key insight from the session was not the project's scale. It was that the Indigenous partner has been actively lobbying the Canadian government to advance the project — not delay it. Production is targeted for around 2030.

On institutional capital: A major European asset manager moderated the infrastructure debt panel. The First Nations Finance Authority recently completed a bond financing of half a billion dollars, drawing institutional demand from investors outside Canada.

On governance: A fireside conversation explored a governance model that has built over one hundred and eighty million dollars in consolidated assets across multiple sectors over forty-four years — and what institutional due diligence should be asking about it.

On defence and the circumpolar frontier: The Canada-UK Defence and Resilience Partnership, announced in the days before the summit, shifted the weight of the Arctic Security Corridor session considerably. Canada has committed thirty billion dollars to northern defence and infrastructure. The government has set a minimum of five per cent of procurement with Indigenous partners — and Indigenous-owned enterprises have been positioning for this moment.

Summit 2027 returns to the Square Mile in April. Subscribe to Drumbeats to follow the conversations that began in that room.

Dan Adams, BMO: Why Capital Markets Are Indigenous Finance's Next Phase

Season 1 · Episode 73

Thursday, April 9, 2026 • Duration 39:12

In 2025, the Bank of Montreal elevated its Indigenous banking operation from a specialist unit into a dedicated enterprise-wide function - the BMO Office of Reconciliation. The decision came after more than three decades of building what is now Canada's most established Indigenous financial services programme, and it signals something important: Indigenous participation in Canadian capital markets is no longer a niche consideration for institutional investors. It is the next structural phase of the market.

Dan Adams, Head of the BMO Office of Reconciliation, joined Drumbeats to explain how this translates into practice. Dan has spent his career in northern Ontario working directly with Indigenous governments and communities and has watched BMO's Indigenous portfolio grow by over four hundred per cent, with assets under administration now exceeding twenty billion Canadian dollars. This reflects the current economic reality that Indigenous communities are generating meaningful own-source revenue, building sophisticated financial strategies, and increasingly seeking equity positions in the major projects crossing their territories.

In this episode, Dan covers:

The origin of BMO's Indigenous banking mandate in 1992, led by the pioneering Ron Jamieson, and how the creation of the Office of Reconciliation in 2025 represents a fundamental expansion of that mandate across capital markets, wealth management, and investment banking.
Canada's first Indigenous bond how BMO structured it from existing term loans already deployed in community infrastructure, and why it was purchased by institutional investors almost immediately.
The shift from consultation to ownership why Indigenous governments are now at the ownership table on major Canadian infrastructure projects, and what government guarantees mean for the bankability of those transactions.
What foreign investors get wrong and Dan's three-point framework for approaching Indigenous partnerships: community support, long-term project viability, and genuine relationship investment.
Why capital markets represent the next chapter of Indigenous economic participation and what bank capital market teams need to understand to play a meaningful role.

For UK and European institutional investors evaluating Canadian infrastructure, energy, mining, and natural resource projects, this episode provides the commercial and structural context that no due diligence process can afford to overlook.

The Traditional Playbook Is Not Working: CIIS 2026

Season 1 · Episode 72

Thursday, April 2, 2026 • Duration 37:46

The old investment rules are no longer enough to protect capital in this new market with greater macro volatility.

With the oil crisis ongoing, the global economy continues to face rising pressure and uncertainty. Crude prices have soared up to $112 per barrel. European gas surged more than 70% in March and TTF, the European gas benchmark, traded at €54 per megawatt-hour.

Even gold and government bonds, which investors usually trust in tough times, are no longer providing the stability they once did.

Where can investors safely put their money?

In this pre-summit episode of Drumbeats, just a few days before the 2026 Canadian Indigenous Investment Summit at the London Stock Exchange, hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant discuss what’s changed, what matters, and why Canadian Indigenous partnerships are becoming viable solutions for long-term, stable investment opportunities.

If you’re an investor, asset manager, or involved in any infrastructure or resource large scale-projects, this episode is a clear preview of where to find sustainable capital opportunities.

With the global capital market shifting, Canada is standing out as a stronger solution.

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Nukik Corporation's Anne-Raphaëlle Audouin: Connecting Nunavut to the Continental Grid

Season 1 · Episode 71

Thursday, March 26, 2026 • Duration 35:45

In April 2025, the Premiers of Manitoba and Nunavut signed a joint declaration to create a strategic energy and economic corridor between the two jurisdictions. Manitoba repatriated expiring hydro export contracts to the US and carved out 50 megawatts specifically for the Kivalliq Hydro-Fibre Link. As Anne-Raphaëlle Audouin, CEO of Nukik Corporation, explains in this episode: until that moment, the project had a concept but no product to flow through the transmission line. That declaration changed everything.

In Part 2 of this two-episode conversation, Anne-Raphaëlle takes Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant inside the project itself - its full specification, its commercial architecture, and the one remaining obstacle between concept and construction.

The Kivalliq Hydro-Fibre Link is a 1,200-kilometre dual-use transmission and fibre optic asset running from Churchill in northern Manitoba to five of the Kivalliq region's seven communities.

Its anchor customer is Agnico Eagle Mines which Anne-Raphaelle describes as the largest Canadian gold miner and the second-largest gold miner in the world with two operating mines in the region for close to 20 years. Mining represents 75% of Nunavut's GDP. That anchor customer's long-term energy requirements are the bankable revenue that makes private capital participation viable.

In this second episode, Mark Magnacca, Rob Brant and Anne-Raphaëlle cover:

◦ Why the April 2025 joint declaration was the project's defining commercial turning point, triggering MISO certification, the transmission service request to Manitoba Hydro, and commercial agreements with Qulliq Energy Corporation.

◦ The capital structure: Canada Infrastructure Bank leading the financial workstream, senior debt market sounding currently under way, and why the federal backstop is the piece that has not yet moved.

◦ The chicken-and-egg financing dynamic and why the federal government is a key enabler.

◦ The Greenland benchmark: no engineering reason separates what Greenland has built from what Nunavut could achieve, the gap is political.

Nukik Corporation's Anne-Raphaëlle Audouin: First Arctic Electricity Developer on the Grid

Season 1 · Episode 70

Thursday, March 19, 2026 • Duration 31:56

Nunavut is 20% of Canada's landmass. It has no roads, no transmission lines and no physical connection to the rest of the nation. Every watt of electricity powering its homes, hospitals, schools and two major gold mines runs on diesel and almost all of that diesel is imported from foreign countries. Anne-Raphaëlle Audouin, CEO of Nukik Corporation, is working to change that.

In this episode of Drumbeats, Anne-Raphaëlle explains the scope of the challenge, the commercial architecture of the solution, and why she believes Canada's Arctic represents one of the most compelling regulated infrastructure opportunities available to institutional investors today.

Nukik Corporation was established in 2021 by the Kivalliq Inuit Association, making it 100% Inuit-owned. Its flagship project - the Kivalliq Hydro-Fibre Linkis a $3 billion, 1,000-kilometre transmission line that would connect the Kivalliq region's communities, government and mining operations to the continental grid for the first time. Anne-Raphaëlle joined as CEO in 2022, bringing a career spanning environmental law, natural resources management and over a decade in the hydropower sector across Canada and West Africa.

In this first part of a two-episode conversation, Mark Magnacca, Rob Brant and Anne-Raphaëlle cover:

Why Nunavut's 25 communities were settled artificially during Canada's Arctic colonisation in the 1950s and 1960s, and how that history shapes the infrastructure deficit today
The energy sovereignty risk: 138 million litres of foreign diesel imported annually, with telecommunications dependent on non-Canadian Starlink technology
Nukik's landmark MISO certification making it the first and only Arctic electricity developer accredited by a US regional transmission organisation and what that milestone means for project bankability
Mark Carney's Major Projects Office and why Nukik meets all five national interest criteria, yet commercial close remains contingent on federal commitment
Why Inuit communities are pushing Nukik to build faster, and why that represents a rare and valuable social license for infrastructure investors

For UK and continental European institutional investors, the strategic parallels are direct: regulated transmission infrastructure, sovereign-backed energy security imperatives, and anchor customers in the form of major mining operations with long-term energy contracts. The project is commercially advanced. The question, as Anne-Raphaëlle puts it plainly, is who blinks first.

Jon Davey: Why Canada's Biggest Projects Can't Get Built Without Indigenous Capital

Season 1 · Episode 69

Thursday, March 12, 2026 • Duration 37:59

For institutional investors, infrastructure fund managers, and senior advisors evaluating Canadian project opportunities, the question is no longer whether Indigenous equity participation matters - it is how the financing actually works, and what the federal government is doing to accelerate it. This episode answers both questions directly.

In Part 2 of our conversation with Jonathan Davey, Managing Director of Indigenous and Government Advisory at Scotiabank's Global Banking and Markets division, we move from the biographical to the operational. Jonathan is Haudenosaunee and a member of the Lower Cayuga Nation of the Six Nations of the Grand River. He brings a decade of Indigenous law practice, five years building Scotiabank's Indigenous financial services group, two years in the office of Scotiabank's President and CEO to a conversation that covers the full mechanics of Indigenous project finance in Canada today.

In Part 2, Jonathan covers:

Section 89 of the Indian Act - why this single provision has historically been the greatest barrier to capital access for Indigenous communities, and the leasehold financing structures and investment vehicles practitioners use to navigate it
Concessionary capital - what it is, where it comes from, and how forthcoming amendments to the First Nations Fiscal Management Act will allow the First Nations Finance Authority to provide low-cost capital directly to Indigenous special purpose vehicles for the first time
Canada's $10 billion Indigenous Loan Guarantee Corporation - how federal and provincial loan guarantee programmes are bringing institutional lender risk weights close to zero on qualifying transactions, and what that means for the cost of capital on major projects
The Build Canada Act and Major Projects Office - why every project of national interest now requires Indigenous participation, what the federal permit designation programme means for project timelines, and why Jonathan describes the current moment as a massive sea change
The investment case for partnering with Indigenous groups - beyond the financial incentives, why Jonathan argues that Indigenous business acumen, stewardship, and traditional knowledge make these partnerships operationally compelling, not just politically necessary

Jon Davey: Why Scotiabank Bet on Canada's Indigenous Economy

Season 1 · Episode 68

Thursday, March 5, 2026 • Duration 23:38

For senior investment bankers, infrastructure fund managers, and institutional investors building a picture of Canada's Indigenous economy, understanding who is driving change inside the country's major financial institutions matters as much as understanding policy. This episode gives you direct access to one of those people.

Jonathan Davey is Managing Director of Indigenous and Government Advisory at Scotiabank's Global Banking and Markets division- the first role of its kind at a major Canadian bank. Haudenosaunee and a member of the Lower Cayuga Nation of the Six Nations of the Grand River, Jonathan spent a decade practising Indigenous law at Canada's Department of Justice before Scotiabank asked him to help build their Indigenous financial services practice. Most recently he spent two years working directly in the office of Scotiabank's President and CEO Scott Thomson before stepping into his current role.

In Part 1 of this conversation, Jonathan covers:

His path from Indigenous law to capital markets - why he left the Department of Justice after a decade, what Scotiabank's pitch actually was, and how a mutual investment between banker and institution built something genuinely new
What it means to work for the Crown as an Indigenous person - Jonathan speaks candidly about the weight of representing a federal government whose decisions have historically been injurious to his community, and why moving to the private sector gave him more room to create change
Two years in the office of Scotiabank's CEO - what Jonathan observed about leadership at the highest level of a major Canadian financial institution, and how Scott Thomson's approach to Indigenous relationships shaped the bank's direction
Cedar Leaf Capital - how client demand from a single procurement-focused corporate client led Scotiabank to help establish Canada's first Indigenous-owned investment dealer, and why Jonathan considers it one of the bank's proudest achievements
The collegiality driving Canada's Indigenous finance ecosystem- why practitioners across competing institutions, law firms, and advisory businesses are actively supporting each other's success

the infrastructure of Indigenous participation in Canadian capital markets is being built right now, from the inside, by people like Jonathan Davey. This episode introduces you to how that happened and who is doing it.

Tracee Smith: The On-Reserve Lending Gap and the Private Credit Opportunity

Season 1 · Episode 67

Thursday, February 26, 2026 • Duration 43:11

Canada has a housing crisis in its Indigenous communities that has run for fifty years. The federal government's social housing programme - capped at $150 million annually - produces fewer than one home per community per year across 630 First Nations. The major banks, operating on policies written in the 1960s, have largely refused to lend on-reserve. And yet the infrastructure, the legal frameworks, and the investor appetite to solve this problem exist today.

Tracee Smith, President and CEO of Keewaywin Capital Inc., is the private credit fund manager who is stepping into that gap and building a compelling investment case in the process.

A Missinaibi Cree entrepreneur, former Bay Street lender, and founder of the nationally recognised Outside Looking In youth charity, Tracee brings a rare combination of community credibility and institutional financial fluency to an underserved market. Keewaywin's model is methodical: advance construction capital to First Nations communities, partner with CMHC's Section 95 social housing programme as a near-guaranteed takeout mechanism, and deploy funds at the point where traditional lenders refuse to go - the design-to-completion construction phase.

In this episode, Rob Brant speaks with Tracee about:

Why Canada's major banks have structurally failed on-reserve communities - and why that represents a private credit opportunity
How Keewaywin's partnership with CMHC provides investors with a near-sovereign-backed repayment structure
The fund's first major deployment: a $25 million deal in Manitoba delivering 30 modular homes and infrastructure for 200 units
Why UK and European pension capital is beginning to look seriously at Indigenous private credit funds
The systemic policy failures - from siloed government programmes to discriminatory lending practices - that make private capital essential

For UK and continental European institutional investors, Keewaywin represents something increasingly rare: a private credit fund with quantifiable social impact, a defined security structure, and access to a Canadian market that remains almost entirely overlooked by international capital.

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