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Marketing and business strategy podcast for executives and marketing leaders who want to improve outcomes from marketing.
Marketing veterans Devin Bramhall (Animalz, Help Scout) & Margaret Kelsey (InVision, OpenView) use their combined 20+ years of experience to increase the business impact of marketing by creating shared understanding of its purpose and outcomes among marketing leaders, founders/CEOs & others in the C-suite.
- Join us for in-depth conversations about B2B marketing behind the scenes:
- How to run effective marketing teams
- Hiring best-in-class marketing teams
- Marketing strategy: Product-led Growth (PLG), Community marketing, Influencer marketing, micro influencers
- Trends in B2B marketing: AI, TikTok, YouTube, LinkedIn, social platforms, email, and more
Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
An award-winning B2B podcast production company: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/
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Apple Podcasts
🇨🇦 Canada - marketing
11/11/2025#55🇬🇧 Great Britain - marketing
13/07/2025#73🇬🇧 Great Britain - marketing
14/04/2025#94🇬🇧 Great Britain - marketing
13/04/2025#48🇬🇧 Great Britain - marketing
12/04/2025#27🇨🇦 Canada - marketing
04/01/2025#77🇨🇦 Canada - marketing
02/11/2024#67🇨🇦 Canada - marketing
08/10/2024#74🇨🇦 Canada - marketing
12/09/2024#81
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Bonus: Devin Bramhall on Grow and Tell
Season 4 · Episode 23
mardi 13 août 2024 • Duration 47:10
On this bonus episode, you'll hear our own Devin Bramhall in conversation with Alex Kracov from Dock on his show, Grow and Tell. They talk about how startups should be thinking about content, how she scaled Animalz, and how she grew our podcast, Don't Say Content.
Check out Grow and Tell here: https://www.dock.us/grow-and-tell
Replay: What Founders/CEOs Are Getting Wrong When Hiring and Managing Marketers
Season 4 · Episode 22
mardi 6 août 2024 • Duration 38:51
In this replay, we're talking about one of those tough moments in leadership. You’re ready to hire marketing talent (either your first hire or a head of marketing), but you don’t have a background in marketing.
What background do you look for? How do you set them up for success?
We’ve seen the downward spiral of failure: your VCs/board giving bad advice, a lack of shared language around marketing roles and responsibilities, an over-indexing on tactics and copy edits— and they all lead to a revolving door of bad-fit marketers coming in and out of your organization.
Devin and Margaret explore how to successfully hire for and manage a role that you’re not an expert in—on this episode of Don’t Say Content.
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Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/
CRO & the Future of Marketing Strategy (with Ned MacPherson)
Season 4 · Episode 13
jeudi 9 mai 2024 • Duration 56:14
Experimentation is the Queen of Marketing Strategy these days as Martech continues to evolve, GenAI content becomes the new keyword stuffing and Google follows their hearts on SERPs in what seems like a midlife crisis-induced mushroom trip. No one knows what’s going to happen, so the best marketing strategy today involves testing & play to determine the best tactical mix for your business. Ned MacPherson, Chief Growth Officer of Power Digital is here this week to share what trends he’s noticing in CRO right now and his thoughts on the future of marketing strategy.
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Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/
Building Relationships is Free: Balancing Budget + Creativity in Marketing (with Rachel Elsts Downey)
Season 4 · Episode 12
jeudi 2 mai 2024 • Duration 57:18
Marketing is really just relationship-building at scale. But within that "scale" are activities that aren't 100% programmable. That's what a successful marketing mix looks like. But explaining that to stakeholders isn't always easy. As marketers we have to be both business strategists, human connectors and creatives. Today we're talking with Rachel Elsts Downey, founder/CEO of Share Your Genius, about the growth strategies available in tight economic climates and how no aspects of marketing are, in fact, dead.
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Connect with Rachel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelelstsdowney/
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Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/
CMOs Are (Also) Anxious Right Now
Season 4 · Episode 11
mardi 23 avril 2024 • Duration 40:36
It’s 5 pm, do you know how your CMO is doing? You probably do, because they are anxiously wading through the same muck wondering how they are going to deliver consistent results while the foundation of their industry and macro environment are in tumult.
The average day of a CMO right involves trying to strategically plan growth when even demand gen playbooks aren’t functioning like they used to, buyers are taking longer at every stage of the journey, budgets are both reduced and less consistent QoQ, and no one wtf is going to happen with interest rates, search, AI, the election, wars, etc will impact their companies, campaigns, day-to-day lives.
So yeah, CMOs are feeling it, too, and we talked to a few for this episode as a kind of group hug and reminder: You’re not alone!
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What Should a Marketing Team Look Like NOW?
Season 4 · Episode 10
mardi 9 avril 2024 • Duration 42:52
What makes a marketing function successful today?
There are new trends and old playbooks, but what marketers do startups really need? And what about bigger companies?
We talk structure, success, and our big dreams for what it looks like in the future.
Join us as we chat through what types of marketers we see rising to the top now, and how marketing can best align and structure itself to grow into the future.
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Personal Branding: You’re (Still) Being Silly About It
Season 4 · Episode 9
mardi 2 avril 2024 • Duration 40:45
We talked about it way back in season 1. Today, what we’re interested in is: What personal brand currently does for individuals, particularly in a world where there's waning trust among institutions and executives?
Personal branding is reputation. As tech moves faster, channels change more rapidly, you have to harness your reputation. Yes, even if you’re B2B. Actually, ESPECIALLY if you’re B2B.
You have a personal brand, regardless if you’re activating it through social channels. Even if you don’t want to be an “influencer”, this episode is for you.
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Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/
Does AI Change What We Think About Quality Content?
Season 4 · Episode 8
mardi 26 mars 2024 • Duration 43:11
Ok, ok. So, we’ve all been wrapping our heads around how to use AI in our content marketing production and distribution for a bit now. It’s time we talk about it.
In this episode, we dive into some bigger questions. How should you think about AI? How will it affect quality? What does AI change? And what will always remain?
If you’re using AI, or if you’re too overwhelmed to even know where to start, this one’s for you.
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Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/
Mastering Senior Leadership Dynamics at Corporate Giants with Atlassian's Ashley Faus
Season 4 · Episode 7
vendredi 22 mars 2024 • Duration 01:01:32
As you ascend to higher levels in your career, your most valuable skill becomes navigating internal politics, policy, and process. It's not just about managing up when you work for large companies, it's about managing many senior stakeholders and the dynamics they bring with them. Competency goes a long way to getting the opportunities you want, the budgets you need and support for your initiatives.
We're going live with Ashley Faus, Head of Lifecycle Marketing at Atlassian, to learn her strategies for navigating the corporate maze to elevate your influence and efficacy.
Connect with Ashley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyfaus/
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Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/
You're Killing ROI with Your Marketing Attribution
Season 4 · Episode 6
mardi 12 mars 2024 • Duration 35:25
This is the best episode we’ve ever recorded.
Is it because we get into an in-depth spicy conversation (cough, argument, cough) about why everyone and their mother are measuring awareness and affinity marketing programs totally wrong? Is it because Margaret gets so heated that she drops f-bombs, and eventually Devin says something she RARELY ever says? Is it because we put CFOs completely on blast for ruining marketing metrics?
You decide!
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