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DIALOG 17 - Perennialism31 Aug 202601:16:07

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

Jack Donovan’s books

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 16 - Practicing Happiness and Unhappiness23 Aug 202601:12:47

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

Jack Donovan’s books

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 15 - Doing Vs. Reading Philosophy16 Aug 202601:14:59

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

Jack Donovan’s books

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 14 - The Noble Lie09 Aug 202601:16:09

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

Jack Donovan’s books

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 13 - The Role of Sports27 Jul 202601:06:18

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

Jack Donovan’s books

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 12 - Nolan’s Odyssey19 Jul 202601:18:34

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 11- Moral Reasoning12 Jul 202601:12:22

Men are being paid to make men angry and keep them angry—sometimes by the very people they claim as their enemies. In the premiere episode of DIALOG, hosts Jack Donovan and CB Robertson explore the concepts of rage, thumos—and even hate—and talk about how they can be manipulated for good or ill.

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 10 - Male Friendship05 Jul 202601:13:51

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 09 - Christian Satanism and Black Metal Orthodoxy28 Jun 202601:14:11

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 08 - Fatherhood with Josh Wood21 Jun 202601:05:27

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 07 - The Enduring Cathedral of Boomer Truth14 Jun 202601:11:04

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 06 - Tanner Guzy, Extegrity, and Visible Authenticity07 Jun 202601:27:03

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 05 - The Wisdom of the Body31 May 202601:11:36

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 04 - Masculine Aesthetics24 May 202601:29:16

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 03 - Evola and the Fallen Age Fantasy17 May 202601:30:43

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 02 - Women and Motherhood10 May 202601:07:19

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

DIALOG 01 - Rage and the Organ Grinders of Thumos (Premiere)04 May 202601:22:35

Men are being paid to make men angry and keep them angry—sometimes by the very people they claim as their enemies. In the premiere episode of DIALOG, hosts Jack Donovan and CB Robertson explore the concepts of rage, thumos—and even hate—and talk about how they can be manipulated for good or ill.

💬DIALOG comes from two words Dia (διά) means through, across, between. Logos (λόγος) means word, speech, reason, account, discourse.The compound dialogos means a conversation or exchange of words passing through or between parties. Earliest attested uses in Greek refer to the conversational sections of philosophical and dramatic works, as opposed to monologue or narrative.

In a world of sensationalism and hot takes, the project of DIALOG is to seek the Aristotelian mean. What is reasonable, what makes the most sense, what is best? To create a new golden age, we have to decide what we want and where we want to go—or at least decide on the best general direction. This is not weak compromise or safe centrism. The mean we are seeking is the difficult, active balance between excess and deficiency that produces excellence, strength, and enduring order. This is the hard middle path that serious men have always sought when they intend to build rather than merely complain or entertain.

✍️Jack Donovan is a gonzo anthropologist who lives in Arizona. He is the author of The Way of Men, Becoming a Barbarian, A More Complete Beast, and Fire in the Dark. For nearly twenty years he has written and spoken on masculinity, philosophy, and the conditions that allow strong men to thrive. His work moves past trends and moral fashion to the permanent things.

✍️CB Robertson is a blue-collar philosopher who works as an electrician. He is a husband and the father of five children and lives in Eastern Washington. He is the author of The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism, In Defense of Hatred, and Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. For many years he has produced YouTube commentaries under the name Caffeine and Philosophy.

🔥Both men are Solar Idealists, founding members of The Order of Fire’s First Men, and contributors to PH2T3R: A Journal for Solar Culture. In DIALOG they bring their different experiences and shared commitments to questions that matter. They do not chase controversy or agreement. They seek what actually works for men who mean to create something that lasts.

🔥To learn more about Solar Idealism and The Order of Fire, visit https://orderoffire.com/

Or follow our YouTube channel: /@orderoffire

JACK DONOVAN’S BOOKS

📖The Way of Men https://amzn.to/4aITiG7

📖Becoming a Barbarian https://amzn.to/4bZL0KQ

📖A More Complete Beast https://amzn.to/4bBLKpD

📖Fire in the Dark https://amzn.to/3VhdV7H

Buy CB Robertson’s Books

📖The Hero and the Man: Language, Truth, and the Homeric Origins of Western Idealism https://amzn.to/4cCZL9O

📖Letter to Anwei: An Explanation of Human Identity and Transgenerational Ethics https://amzn.to/4tCAzpM

📖Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity https://amzn.to/4dbNxoA

📖In Defense of Hatred https://amzn.to/4ukloBP

CONNECT

Jack Donovan

⚡SUBSTACK: https://mrjackdonovan.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM: @starttheworld

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://jack-donovan.com/

CB Robertson

⚡SUBSTACK: https://cbrobertson.substack.com/

⚡INSTAGRAM @caffeineandphilosophy

⚡OFFICIAL WEBSITE:https://caffeineandphilosophy.com/

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