Award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.

The first episode drops November 13, 2025, with new episodes every Thursday on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, the Deseret News YouTube channel and at Deseret.com/podcasts. Video clips of interviews will be posted on the Deseret News social media channels including YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins connects with Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., to explore the pressing issue of political violence in America. As someone intimately familiar with the impact of such violence, Kelly reflects on the recent tragic events at Utah Valley University and shares his perspective on what can be done to de-escalate the current political climate. They discuss the role of leadership in fostering unity, the challenges posed by economic inequality and social media, and the importance of cross-party collaboration. Listen as Kelly provides a candid and insightful discussion on the state of American democracy and the path forward.

Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with Brigham Young University President Shane Reese and Vice President Keith Vorkink to explore the revolutionary changes in college athletics brought about by the NCAA's Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) ruling. The episode provides insight into how the school manages college football NIL deals, donor contributions, and upholds the BYU Honor Code amid these sweeping changes.

Reese and Vorkink discuss how BYU athletics are strategically navigating this complex landscape while staying true to its mission and values. They delve into the impacts of revenue sharing in college football, the university's unique funding sources, the implications on team morale, and how BYU athletics maintains its distinction through its mission-centered approach.

Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

In this episode of "Deseret Voices," guest host Sheri Dew, Executive Vice President of Deseret Management Corporation, sits down with Catherine Raney Norman, a four-time Olympian and current vice president of Development and Athlete Relations for the 2034 Winter Games in Utah. Catherine shares her inspiring journey from a young speedskater to an influential advocate for athletes, detailing how her Olympic experiences have shaped her life and career.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

Bitter debate and violent confrontations continue to fracture the United States as American's polarized and complicated view of immigration war wages at the borders and in our streets. 

Alarming reports and videos are coming out of centers of protests and division, including the recent deadly shooting of a Minneapolis man by Border Patrol; the third shooting and second death since federal officers have faced protesters in that midwestern city. 

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Caitlin Dickerson of The Atlantic joins host McKay Coppins to discuss this boiling battle, how we got here, and what is the Trump administration's end game on this domestic warfront? 

Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret)

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson engages in a heartfelt conversation with Utah Valley University President Astrid Tuminez, exploring themes of resilience, grief, and personal transformation. Astrid opens up about the profound challenges she faced after the tragic and sudden loss of her husband, compounded by the Charlie Kirk assassination at UVU just months later. 

Through a lens of vulnerability and strength, Astrid shares how she navigated these dual tragedies, embraced pain as a catalyst for growth, and led the UVU campus community toward healing and unity. 

Astrid’s story is a powerful testament to the human spirit's ability to transform through trauma, offering hope and inspiration to listeners navigating their own paths through trauma and the grief cycle.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins is joined by Utah Gov. Spencer Cox, a seasoned political leader whose career has been unexpectedly thrust into the national spotlight. Cox has witnessed firsthand the insidious power of social media and its role in shaping — and often warping — our political discourse and personal lives.

After the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, Cox was not just responding to a crisis but confronted with a pivotal moment of decision: How would he utilize his platform amidst the national attention? Rather than delve into partisan blame games, he chose to call out the "cancer" of social media, the algorithms he deems as "evil," and the companies profiting from societal divisions.

In this episode, we explore the rising phenomenon of political polarization exacerbated by technology, how social media platforms, initially hailed as revolutionary tools for connection, have become vehicles for division and strife. And the state of Utah’s fight to take on the top platforms to protect kids.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," professor Brad Wilcox, director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia and senior fellow of the Institute for Family Studies, addresses the growing affordability crisis threatening the American dream and the American Family. In a recent article written for the Deseret News, he dissects research on the crisis and discusses how public policy should be both reducing the cost of raising children and lending greater material support to families. 

Where once a single-earner family could afford a home, transportation, education, healthcare, and a certain quality of life, as the cost of living soars, dual-income households are struggling to even make ends meet. In a world where income inequality and generational priorities have widened into an insurmountable chasm, what can and should be done on a governmental policy level to ease the economic burden on the family unit before it becomes obsolete? 

Wilcox joins journalist Jane Clayson Johnson to discuss the real research, consequences, and potential solutions to the growing and costly crisis. 

Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins delves into the extraordinary life and legacy of Sen. Harry Reid, lawyer and former Majority Leader of the US Senate. In a conversation with Jon Ralston, author of “The Game Changer,” a new political biography about Reid, we discover how Reid rose from his humble beginnings in Searchlight, Nevada, to become one of the most influential political figures in America. Ralston gives an unmatched look at Reid's indomitable spirit, strategic prowess, and how he reshaped the Democratic party, leaving a lasting impact on American politics. He shares insights into Reid's controversial decisions, including invoking the nuclear option and his memorable entanglements with fellow Latter-day Saint Mitt Romney. 

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

The ousting of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro is one of those moments that invites a lot of strong opinions, and that becomes even more complicated once you start asking questions. Who is running Venezuela now? Will America try to overthrow regimes in Cuba or Colombia next? What does this tell us about President Donald Trump’s foreign policy positions? And what does it mean for the future of Venezuela and its people who have been living under a brutal dictatorship for more than a decade? 

On this episode of “Deseret Voices,” McKay Coppins explores those questions with foreign policy expert Richard Fontaine, who has advised President George W. Bush and Sen. John McCain, and who now runs the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), a think tank in Washington, D.C. 

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," join Jane Clayson Johnson for a compelling conversation with Dr. Lynn Bufka from the American Psychological Association. As we step into the new year, they dive into insights from the 2025 Stress in America survey, unpacking the complexities of how societal division, disconnection, and loneliness are affecting our stress levels more than ever. 

This discussion offers tips on how to foster connection with others and build resilience, challenging listeners to rethink their interactions in an increasingly disconnected world for their new year’s resolutions.  

Tune in for guidance on nurturing meaningful connections and reducing stress for a more connected, healthier new year.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," join host Jane Clayson Johnson as she welcomes Sharon Eubank, the global humanitarian director for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Sharon shares invaluable insights from her 28 years in global humanitarian work and her new book, "Doing Small Things with Great Love: How Everyday Humanitarians Are Changing the World."

In this conversation, Sharon emphasizes the importance of local solutions, leveraging personal interests for community service, and the essentiality of listening over imposing solutions.

You’ll gain practical tips on how to initiate meaningful change in your own community, cultivate a service-oriented mindset, and understand the profound impact of doing small things with great love. Whether you're looking to get involved in your community or seeking inspiration to serve, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge and motivation.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of “Deseret Voices,” host McKay Coppins is joined by political strategist and publisher of The Bulwark, Sarah Longwell, whose countless hours holding voter focus groups have given her an unparalleled insight into the mind of everyday Americans. 

As a lifelong Republican, Sarah has navigated the complex world of political strategy and emerged as a leading voice in anti-Trump conservatism. Her research provides a fascinating perspective on how the Trump era has reshaped the conservative movement as well as American politics. 

This episode examines the evolving definition of conservatism in America, the future of the GOP and what Democrats need to do to attract swing voters.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins sits down with author and New York Times columnist Ross Douthat to discuss cultural currents surrounding religion in contemporary secular societies. As Douthat shares his insights, he reflects on the unexpected openness he encountered towards religious discussions during a recent book tour and in his interactions with readers.

This interview delves into Douthat's exploration of American culture's shifting attitudes towards spirituality, the evolving narrative of faith, and his arguments for religion’s relevance in modern life.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," James Walsh, a seasoned writer from New York Magazine known for his compelling insights into technology and higher education, Joins Jane Clayson Johnson to discuss his controversial piece, "Everyone is Cheating Their Way Through College," which has ignited a nationwide dialogue about the implications of generative AI in higher education. 

Through this conversation, we delve into his findings and explore how tools such as ChatGPT and Claude are not only transforming but also challenging the traditional mechanisms of learning and evaluation in educational institutions.

With AI tools for students becoming increasingly accessible, James reveals a stark reality — the ubiquitous use of technology to cut corners on assignments and exams. College students are using AI to write essays, code, and more, presenting what many believe to be the ultimate cheating tool in educational settings. 

This episode sheds light on the perceptions and justifications students use to rationalize AI's academic presence and how educators are grappling with this new norm, struggling to detect AI-assisted work and maintain integrity in their classrooms.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On Feb. 12 Elder Clark G. Gilbert was called as a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, trading a lifetime career in management and innovation, for a lifetime calling as a special witness of Jesus Christ. 

Elder Gilbert’s service and expertise in academia, business and media — as well as his roles as commissioner of the Church Educational System and president of BYU-Idaho and BYU-Pathway — have prepared him for his new calling.

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Elder Gilbert joins journalist Jane Clayson Johnson to talk about his apostolic call, polarization in the world, and the recent criticism he has received from some corners of the media. He also shares lessons that have shaped him and, drawing on his experience in educational administration, he addresses the most pressing spiritual questions and pressures facing young people today.

Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins sits down to interview Jeff Flake, a former U.S. ambassador to Turkey and ex-senator, for an insightful discussion on America’s role in global politics. Flake shares firsthand experiences as an American diplomat, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the thoughts and concerns of international leaders regarding U.S. politics. They discuss the implications of shifting global leadership dynamics and how America's policies under different administrations have evolved, influencing the international stage.

Dive deep into critical topics such as NATO’s challenges in 2026 and the transformation within the GOP, particularly the rise of populism and its impact on foreign policy. Flake provides a unique perspective on the necessity of American soft power and diplomacy in navigating global challenges. Whether you're interested in international relations, political strategy, or just want to understand how other countries view America, this episode promises engaging insights and thoughtful discussion. Tune in to uncover why maintaining robust global relationships is paramount for America's future.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," guest host Sarah Jane Weaver, editor of the Deseret News, speaks with esteemed scholars Robert P. George and Dr. Cornel West about their unique friendship and shared commitment to intellectual and moral exploration. Despite their differing ideologies, George and West exemplify how friendship can thrive on mutual respect and love for deep truths. They discuss the importance of transcendence, intellectual curiosity, and the distinction between career and vocation. The conversation touches on pivotal topics such as the significance of character in society, the true essence of education, and the enduring values worth nurturing among younger generations. Through their animated discussion, they model how civil discourse and love can bridge differences in today's polarized world.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Deseret News reporter Lottie Elizabeth Johnson sits down with advocate and survivor Elizabeth Smart to discuss her journey of reclaiming her narrative through the 2026 Netflix documentary “Kidnapped: Elizabeth Smart.” Smart reflects on the transition from the "mental chains" of her 2002 abduction to the "triumphant" feeling of finally shining a light on her captors' secrets. The conversation explores the healing process, the importance of being believed, and Smart’s mission to provide personal safety training through her Smart Defense program at Utah universities. 

Beyond the headlines, Smart shares heartfelt advice for parents on teaching body autonomy and unconditional love to the next generation. Join us for a powerful look at resilience, the gift of choice, and why Smart is most proud of the happy life she has built today.

If today’s conversation moved you, please consider sharing this episode with a friend or a parent who might need to hear Smart’s message. You can also follow us on social media for more highlights from the interview. If you want to support Smart’s mission directly, visit the Elizabeth Smart Foundation website to learn more about their advocacy and safety programs. Lastly, if you are a survivor in need of support, please refer to the resources listed in our show notes. You are not alone, and your value is unshakable.

• The Elizabeth Smart Foundation: The official site for Elizabeth’s advocacy work, including the Smart Defense program.

• Link: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/

• RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network): The nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization.

• National Sexual Assault Hotline: 800-656-HOPE

• Smart Defense Training: Information on the accredited self-defense courses available at Utah public universities.

• Link: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/smart-defense

• Elizabeth Smart’s YouTube Channel: Watch the video series where Elizabeth revisits Dry Creek Canyon and discusses the "mental chains" of trauma.

• Link: https://www.youtube.com/@elizabethsmartchannel

Learn more about the documentary Elizabeth Smart: Finding Justice.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with AJ Dybantsa, the 6-foot-9 phenom who has taken college basketball by storm. While the rest of the sports world has already labeled him the consensus projected No. 1 overall pick, AJ reveals a bombshell in this conversation: He might not be ready to leave BYU.

Driven by a promise to his mother to prioritize his education and earn a degree, the most coveted amateur player in the world explains why he is weighing a return to Provo for another season.

In this episode, we discuss:

• The Exclusive Revelation: For the first time, AJ discusses the possibility of bypassing the 2026 NBA draft to stay at BYU.

• The "Maniac" Mindset: Why AJ admits he "hates losing more than he loves winning" and how that ferocity translates to his 25.1 ppg national scoring lead.

• Pro-Level Mentorship: AJ opens up about his competitive relationship with Russell Westbrook and the advice he’s received from stars like Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

• Championship or Bust: Why individual accolades mean nothing to him without a deep March Madness run for the Cougars.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

How does a crowd-funded project about Jesus Christ become a global phenomenon? In this episode of "Deseret Voices," guest host Sheri Dew sits down with Dallas Jenkins, the creator, director, and co-writer of “The Chosen,” for an intimate, behind-the-scenes conversation as the groundbreaking series films its final season.

Dew and Jenkins take a trip down memory lane to early 2020, revealing the untold miracle that allowed “The Chosen” to film its second season on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ historic Jerusalem movie set in Goshen, Utah, during the height of strict COVID-19 lockdowns.

Dallas opens up about:

• The Global Impact: Breaking a Guinness World Record as the most translated TV show in history (surpassing 125 languages).

• Navigating Faith & Criticism: Addressing the evangelical backlash and canceled speaking engagements resulting from his interfaith collaborations.

• Filming the Resurrection: The immense creative pressure of adapting the crucifixion and resurrection for Season 6 and Season 7, and how his team captures "Capital-T Truth" over simple logistics.

• Family Legacy: How his father, “Left Behind” author Jerry B. Jenkins, maintains humility while writing the official “The Chosen” novelizations.

Whether you are a longtime viewer of the series or passionate about how media can change hearts, this episode offers a profound look at what happens when human effort brings the "five loaves and two fish," and God handles the miracle.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

Are we trading authentic faith for political tribalism and cultural war? In this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins  sits down with renowned theologian and Christianity Today editor at large Dr. Russell Moore to explore a shift in American religion: The Casinofication of Church.

The conversation sparks from a recent Atlantic investigation where Coppins was given $10,000 to experiment with the addictive, transaction-based loops of online sports betting. But as Dr. Moore points out, these same dopamine-driven algorithms aren't just changing how we watch sports — they are hollowing out our congregations.

When the gospel and Christian fellowship are weaponized for institutional survival, brand-building, and partisan politics, church communities stop shaping our souls and start serving our anxieties. McKay and Dr. Moore discuss:

• The Casinofication Phenomenon: How the modern church is being turned into a vehicle for political outrage and self-image.

• The Trap of Political Homelessness: Why authentic Christianity should inherently place us outside the traditional left-right political spectrum.

• Algorithmic Faith: How modern technology isolates us from deep spiritual formation and real community.

• The Path to Renewal: Why external crises throughout history have forced the church to reckon with its true purpose.

Whether you are feeling politically fatigued, spiritually disconnected, or curious about the intersection of faith and modern culture, this episode offers a vital, grounding perspective on how to reclaim what matters most.

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“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," following recent public rebukes issued by Pope Leo XIV against the Trump administration's foreign and domestic policies, Jane Clayson Johnson and Father James Martin engage in a deep exploration of the moral obligations facing both nations and individuals today.

Father Martin provides a rigorous scriptural defense for the mandate to "welcome the stranger," directly challenging political arguments that relegate such admonitions to individuals rather than civil authorities by noting that according to the gospels, nations themselves will be judged by their treatment of the vulnerable. 

The conversation also addresses the "dangerous instinct" of nationalistic prayer, with Father Martin warning that invoking the name of Jesus to justify war or the destruction of civilizations is a fundamental misunderstanding of Christian theology and the call to be a peacemaker.

Finally, they discuss how the American Catholic Church serves as a mirror to the country's political divisions while simultaneously providing essential on-the-ground pastoral care and advocacy for migrants along the border.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

In this deeply moving episode of "Deseret Voices," veteran CBS News correspondent and now Oscar winner Steve Hartman joins Jane Clayson Johnson to discuss his landmark documentary, “All the Empty Rooms.” For seven years, Hartman and photographer Lou Bopp chronicled the untouched bedrooms of children lost to school shootings — spaces Hartman describes as "sacred." Hartman reveals why he kept the project a secret for years, the profound impact of sitting with grieving parents, and his hope that by standing in these rooms, America can find a way to replace numbness with empathy.

“All the Empty Rooms” is now streaming on Netflix.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with The Atlantic’s Yair Rosenberg to confront the alarming resurgence of antisemitism in the United States. Far from being a relic of the past or a purely partisan issue, modern data suggests that anti-Jewish prejudice is increasingly becoming a youth-driven phenomenon, fueled by changing media landscapes and the loss of firsthand historical memory. Together, they explore the "why" behind the persistence of these ancient hatreds, the role of social media in spreading viral misinformation, and the surprising parallels between the Jewish and Latter-day Saint experiences in America.

This deep-dive conversation explores:

• Antisemitism as a Conspiracy Theory: Understanding why Jews remain a "convenient scapegoat" and how ancient tropes are rebranded for the digital age.

• The Impact of Social Media: How the incentives of TikTok and Instagram prioritize virality over accuracy, allowing conspiracy theories—like the "AI Netanyahu" delusion—to reach mainstream audiences.

• Historical Memory Loss: The fading influence of firsthand Holocaust education as the "Greatest Generation" passes on, leaving a vacuum for social media radicalization.

• Interfaith Parallels: A unique look at the shared minority experiences of the Jewish and Latter-day Saint communities, including the fascinating history of the BYU Jerusalem Center.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Deseret News editor Sarah Jane Weaver sits down with Richard Reeves, President of the American Institute for Boys and Men, to tackle the growing "gender gap" affecting education, mental health, and the workforce. As women and girls continue their much-celebrated rise, data shows that boys and men are falling behind at alarming rates—from a 60/40 female-to-male college enrollment ratio to a tragic 30% increase in male suicide rates since 2010.

Reeves argues that helping men isn't a "zero-sum game" against women’s progress. Instead, he advocates for a new "economic script" for marriage and the vital need for male role models in our civic institutions. We dive into the "technology shock" of the digital age, discussing how smartphones and social media impact young men differently than young women through addictive behaviors like sports betting and pornography.

Join us for a candid, non-judgmental look at why society needs flourishing men to build healthy families and thriving communities.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," guest host Doug Wilks, executive editor of the  Deseret News is joined by Kevin Hyland, the United Kingdom's first independent anti-slavery commissioner, to uncover the complex and often hidden world of modern-day slavery. With over 50 million victims worldwide and an estimated 1 million in the United States alone, the conversation explores why current global efforts are failing to meet the scale of this $236 billion criminal industry.

• The Rise of Cyber Fraud Trafficking: How organized gangs in Southeast Asia and Africa kidnap individuals and force them to run online "scam factories" targeting  U.S. and U.K.citizens. 

• The Funding Gap: A critical look at why the G20 allocates only $1.6 billion to fight trafficking — compared to the trillions spent on terrorism — and Hyland’s call for a $30 billion investment by 2030.

• Sporting Events & Exploitation: Why major sporting events like the World Cup and the 2034 Winter Olympics require years of proactive planning to prevent an influx of human trafficking and forced labor.

• Supply Chain Ethics: The hidden reality of child labor and slavery in the production of everyday items like smartphones, laptops, and car batteries.

• The Role of Faith Communities: How interfaith forums and religious organizations are uniquely positioned to give a voice to the voiceless and provide support for trafficking survivors.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

This episode of "Deseret Voices" explores the pervasive and often hidden epidemic of gambling addiction in modern America. Host McKay Coppins and guest Craig Carton, a well-known radio personality and recovering gambling addict, discuss the rapid mainstreaming of the industry, where sports betting has transitioned from a niche activity to an omnipresent force in sports culture.  

A primary concern highlighted is underage gambling, specifically how minors are gaining access to online wagering platforms through family members or by utilizing offshore accounts and unregulated predictive markets. The conversation also sheds light on the rise of high school bookies and high school loan sharks, as well as the phenomenon of parental indoctrination, where parents unknowingly introduce their children to betting under the guise of family bonding.

Carton shares his harrowing personal story — from the highs of winning to the rock-bottom moments that led to his incarceration. Together, they examine the societal shift towards the mainstreaming of gambling and the critical need for better support systems and education.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with Washington Post columnist Shadi Hamid to dissect the escalating conflict with Iran and the controversial pursuit of regime change. Following the seismic military strikes that claimed the life of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Hamid — author of the provocative new book “The Case for American Power” — explores the moral and strategic contradictions of U.S. intervention in foreign countries. Drawing on his unique perspective as an American Muslim, Hamid traces his personal journey toward reluctantly embracing American dominance as the world's "best hope" against rising authoritarianism in China and Russia.

Key topics discussed in this episode:

• The Death of Khamenei: Why the Trump administration targeted the Iranian leader and the unpredictable consequences for regional stability.

• Democracy vs. Autocracy: The core argument for why American hegemony, despite its deep flaws, remains a moral necessity.

• The "Day After" Problem: Critiquing the lack of a stabilization plan for a post-regime Iran.

• The Israel Factor: Assessing the influence of regional allies on U.S. military decision-making.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

Why don’t Americans trust the media anymore? On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with Evan Smith, co-founder of The Texas Tribune and managing director for events at The Atlantic, to dissect the ongoing crisis of trust in American journalism.

As local newspapers vanish and national media outlets face unprecedented strain, a dangerous information vacuum has emerged. Together, Coppins and Smith explore how the hollowing out of community newsrooms has fueled political polarization, giving rise to misinformation and social media echo chambers. But it’s not all bad news. From nonprofit journalism to hyper-local transparency, discover the emerging media models that are fighting to save American democracy and rebuild the bond between journalists and the communities they serve.

In this wide-ranging and candid conversation recorded live on “The Atlantic Across America” tour, Coppins and Smith unpack the structural failures and future possibilities of the American press.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Utah Gov. Spencer Cox joins host McKay Coppins for a candid, wide-ranging conversation that touches on everything from national political polarization to the sudden intersection of rural Utah and artificial intelligence.

Despite writing a new book, leading to some speculation, Cox insists he isn't eyeing the White House — but he is looking to export Utah’s unique cultural framework to the rest of a fractured nation.

• The Danger of Contempt: Why Cox chose this specific word for his new book, “Off Ramp,” and why looking down on our political rivals is far more dangerous than simply disagreeing with them.

• The Future of the GOP: How the pendulum of political overreach keeps swinging and why the Republican party needs to pivot back toward commonsense middle America to achieve lasting success.

• The AI and Social Media Battle: Cox defends his dual approach of aggressively restricting social media algorithms to protect kids while simultaneously backing major AI infrastructure and data centers in Utah.

• The Gerrymandering Debate: A deep dive into Utah’s controversial redistricting process, the limits of gubernatorial power and whether the chess match of redrawing maps is actually what broke American democracy.

• The "Utah Way": What the rest of the United States can learn from Utah’s nation-leading statistics in volunteering, charitable giving and institutional social capital.

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Why are the owners of a multibillion-dollar tech empire doubling down on live sports in an age of AI and digital isolation? In this episode of “Deseret Voices,” host McKay Coppins sits down with Ryan and Ashley Smith, owners of the Utah Jazz and the new Utah Mammoth, to explore why they believe the stadium is one of the last remaining places where a community can truly breathe, cheer, and connect as one. Ashley describes the "electric," high-stakes atmosphere of a live hockey game where strangers connect through shared moments to bypass the "lonely life" of the digital age. Meanwhile, Ryan reflects on their 20-year transition from the tech world to sports ownership, emphasizing their unique role as stewards keeping these franchises grounded on behalf of the state of Utah.

The Smiths also pull back the curtain on the business, grit and strategic complexities of running professional sports franchises. Ryan provides a candid look at the "means to an end" philosophy required to survive the emotional volatility of wins and losses. Together, they discuss the distinct, team-first culture of the NHL compared to the NBA, the evolving nature of athlete health, and changing league rules. Hear the fascinating story of the "way to get in front of the puck" mentality that defines hockey culture, and how that very spirit of sacrifice is influencing their approach to the Utah Jazz.

Finally, the conversation tackles the tough questions regarding the NBA regular season and the strategic necessity of "laying up" during a team rebuild. The episode concludes with a look ahead at the 2026 NBA draft, with Ryan expressing full confidence in his front office to ignore the outside noise, draft for greatness, and make the bold, sometimes unpopular moves necessary to pursue a championship. Turn off your screens, step inside the arena, and find out why the Smiths are betting big on the vital power of the shared civic experience.

This episode was recorded in front of a live audience during “The Atlantic Across America” series in Salt Lake City on May 11, a joint event from the Deseret News and The Atlantic magazine. 

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

For the first time in over 130 years, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is preparing to open the doors of the Salt Lake Temple to the public following a massive, multi-year renovation. 

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins sits down with project director Andy Kirby and church historian Matt Grow to discuss the dual mission of this monumental undertaking: preserving 19th-century pioneer craftsmanship while implementing 21st-century engineering. 

The Salt Lake Temple has defined the Salt Lake City skyline since 1893. For years now, the temple has been a hive of construction, surrounded by cranes and scaffolding as it undergoes its most significant renovation in history. But the project is about more than just replacing old plumbing and reinforcing granite walls against an earthquake. Kirby and Grow explain how church leadership used this opportunity to enhance and expand the use and message of Temple Square. 

They discuss how church historians navigated the delicate balance between honoring the pioneer past while welcoming a global future, how the now re-opened visitors’ center is making sacred spaces more transparent to visitors and the engineering required to ensure this iconic building stands for another hundred years.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with No. 1 New York Times bestselling author David Baldacci to discuss his latest thrillers, “Nash Falls” and “Hope Rises.”

Baldacci reflects on his childhood in segregated Richmond, Virginia, explaining how early access to the public library became his "body armor" against bigotry. Beyond the craft of writing 60 novels, he delves into his passionate advocacy for literacy and the launch of the Institute for Civil Discourse, a nonpartisan effort to rebuild the "muscles" of citizenship in a fractured democracy. Baldacci argues that literacy is not just about enjoying a good book — it is a fundamental requirement for thinking, empathy, and the survival of a self-governing society.

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins explores the political evolution of MS NOW's Michael Steele, former chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC). Steele traces his journey from a "Lincoln Republican" raised by Roosevelt Democrats to becoming one of the most prominent critics of the modern GOP. 

Michael Steele offers a candid look at his upbringing in segregated Washington, D.C., and explains how Ronald Reagan’s 1976 convention speech — a message of grace and self-reliance — originally anchored his faith in the party.

The conversation delves into the "fictional" iconography of 1950s America often used in modern political messaging and provides an insider's view of how the Tea Party movement transformed from a fiscal uprising into a populist precursor to the current era. 

Steele argues that while many of his peers have abandoned long-held principles for political convenience, he remains in the party to fight for its original moorings of civil liberty and constitutional self-governance. It is a compelling discussion on character, the "monetization of anger," and what it means to be a Republican when you no longer recognize the party’s leadership. 

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Jane Clayson Johnson gathers an extraordinary panel of faith and policy leaders at the request of Pamela Atkinson — a woman often called "Utah’s Mother Teresa." Though Pamela was hospitalized just before the recording, her "final God-given assignment" brought together a diverse group of Christian leaders — Latter-day Saint, Catholic, Presbyterian and Baptist — to discuss a 130-year-old question: What would Jesus do?

The conversation moves beyond theology into the grit of community service, exploring how faith groups can set aside competition to collaborate on homelessness, child welfare, and poverty. From "living out loud" in Kearns to "matchmaking" volunteers with nonprofits, the panel discusses the intentionality required to build trust across religious and political divides.

• The Power of the Question: How a century-old book by Charles Sheldon still compels modern leaders to move from "hearing the word" to "doing the word," even when it creates personal sacrifice or political discomfort.

• The "Pamela Factor": Reflections on how Pamela Atkinson’s "forced friendships" and lack of regard for titles have literally changed the state of Utah’s approach to the vulnerable.

• Systems vs. Motivation: A look at the unique partnership between government (which provides systems) and faith communities (which provide meaning and personal motivation).

• Combating Burnout: Practical tips for congregants who feel overwhelmed by the world's heaviness by focusing on "small acts done consistently" — like keeping water and socks in your car.

• Interfaith Unity: Why standing up for another person’s faith, especially during times of global conflict, is the ultimate "trick" to creating lasting community bonds.

• Jane Clayson Johnson (JCJ) – Host and Journalist

• Abby Cox (AC) – First Lady of Utah

• Sharon Eubank (SE) – Humanitarian Director, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

• Bishop W. Christopher Waddell (B.CW) – Presiding Bishop, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

• Pastor Jamie White (R. JW) – First Presbyterian Church

• Pastor Corey Hodges (P.CH) – The Point Church

• Michael Edwards (ME) – Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City

• Sophia DiCaro (SD) – Executive Director, Utah Governor's Office of Planning and Budget

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins joins guest Sarah Isgur to explore her new book, “Last Branch Standing,” which serves as an intelligent person’s guide to the Supreme Court. Isgur argues that much of the common wisdom and media narrative surrounding the court is incorrect, often because reporters treat the institution like "Congress-lite" or a reality TV show rather than a legal body.

The conversation delves into why the court has recently suffered a crisis of authority and how congressional paralysis has forced the judiciary into the role of an unlikely "culture war referee." Isgur also provides a fascinating look at the internal "high school lunch table" dynamics of the nine justices, categorizing them into three distinct camps: "The Deciders," the "Conservative Honey Badgers" and the "Lonely Liberals." From internal bargaining over opinion language to the growing reclusiveness of justices due to security threats, this episode dispels popular myths and reveals how the court actually functions.

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. 

Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).