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	Title	Pub. Date	Duration
	23: The Gap Between Being Included and Holding Power	30 Jul 2026	00:27:14
Bree talks with William Ward-Boas, a proud Autistic and First Nations advocate with intellectual disability from the LGBTIQA+ community, about what genuine co-design requires and why most organisations aren't actually doing it. Drawing upon over seven years' experience across the advocacy sector, William draws a sharp line between consultation and co-design, unpacks the trauma embedded in asking people to share lived experience without knowing where it will lead, and reflects on actively sharing power as they moved from project worker to board chair. The episode closes on William's framework: being invited into a room isn't influence, being consulted isn't being listened to, and being present isn't having power. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	22: Racial equality, but on whose terms?	16 Jul 2026	00:27:49
Andrea joins Bree for an honest conversation about what anti-racism actually requires inside Australian workplaces, and why most organisations get it wrong. Drawing on her own experience as a woman of colour navigating largely white public sector organisations, Andrea unpacks the difference between individual racist behaviour and structural racism, why "I don't see colour" invalidates the people it's meant to reassure, and who really gets to decide what equality looks like. The conversation turns to workplace complaints processes, and Andrea is direct about the harm they cause: all-white investigators and decision-makers, the expectation that you educate the organisation about your own experience, and the people who quietly stop reporting because they know it will go nowhere. A grounded look at what leaders need to do differently, from racial literacy to actually handing over power. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	21: AI and DEI: it's not either/or	02 Jul 2026	00:18:53
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Bree Gorman takes on one of the most charged topics in the field right now: artificial intelligence, and what it means for diversity, equity and inclusion. Rather than landing on whether AI is "good" or "bad" for inclusion, Bree makes the case that it is both at once. It creates genuine access and equity for people who have long been excluded, while at the same time amplifying bias and challenging the job security of the most marginalised employees. Bree draws on their own experience as an ADHD practitioner, the realities of AI in recruitment, and research showing how biased systems can make the people who use them more biased over time. They also look ahead to the uneven impact of job losses, and why reskilling and support can't be an afterthought. A grounded, practical conversation about using these tools with your eyes open: holding onto the equity gains while actively designing against the harms. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	20: Ripples of Inclusion: Anti-racism as a gateway with Carrie Sawyer	18 Jun 2026	00:31:47
Bree's first international guest, Carrie Sawyer, joins to talk about her book Ripples of Inclusion. a question-and-answer guide to anti-racism that grew out of the conversations people were having after the murder of George Floyd in 2020. Carrie and Bree dig into why "can't we just get along?" is more loaded than it sounds, how privilege becomes harmful through gaslighting rather than its existence alone, and what allyship looks like beyond good intentions. Carrie also shares the story of her six-year-old niece's Black Lives Matter lemonade stand and what happened when the neighbourhood showed up. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	19: When Structure Does the Inclusion Work for You	04 Jun 2026	00:26:45
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Bree Gorman is joined by Dr. Judy Lundy to explore what becomes possible when organisations build a structure that doesn't rely on a traditional hierarchy. Judy shares her lifelong connection to equity, from being told at 14 that she couldn't train guide dogs because she was a girl, to her current work teaching and researching diversity, equity and inclusion. Together, Bree and Judy unpack how traditional hierarchical workplaces can unintentionally limit inclusion, even when there is a strong intent to do better. The conversation challenges the idea that inclusion can be achieved through surface-level initiatives alone. Instead, it highlights the role of organisational design in shaping equity outcomes, and why leaders need to be willing to share power if they want to see meaningful change. A thoughtful and practical conversation about moving beyond performative DEI, creating environments where people feel safe to contribute, and taking tangible steps toward more inclusive ways of working. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	18: ADHD at Work: One Size Does Not Fit All (Part 2)	21 May 2026	00:19:53
In part two of their ADHD series, Dr Bree Gorman shifts from friction points to practical strategies for managers, peers, and people with ADHD themselves. Bree unpacks what actually helps ADHDers thrive at work: redefining productivity away from desk time, building structured flexibility, breaking work into chunks, reducing cognitive load, and normalising different working styles. They also call out the workplace cultures that quietly make things harder from rigid hybrid models and two-hour meetings to glorifying burnout. Grounded in lived experience and six years of focus groups, this episode is a honest, practical guide to designing work that gets the best out of neurodivergent employees and frankly, many other people too. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	17: Built to Exclude: Why Disabled Leaders Are Still Underrepresented	07 May 2026	00:29:33
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman is joined by leadership coach, speaker, and CEO of the Disability Leadership Institute, Christina Ryan, to explore the barriers disabled leaders face, and what it really takes to design workplaces that work for everyone. Together, they unpack the assumptions that sit beneath traditional leadership development, why disability is so often misunderstood or hidden in the workplace, and the real reasons disabled people are still underrepresented in leadership. Christina shares the top barriers disabled leaders face, and challenges organisations to move beyond surface-level inclusion efforts toward meaningful system change. This conversation goes beyond representation, reframing disability as a powerful lens for rethinking how work is designed — from flexibility and job structure to leadership expectations and performance. Because when we build systems that support disabled people to lead and thrive, we create better, more effective workplaces for everyone. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	16: ADHD at Work: Motivation, Burnout and Better Workplaces (Part 1)	23 Apr 2026	00:21:17
ADHD isn't just an attention issue and most workplaces still don't understand that. In Part 1 of this two-part episode, Dr Bree Gorman shares their lived experience of ADHD at work and why motivation, regulation and environment matter more than people think. From deadline panic and burnout cycles to admin paralysis and rigid productivity norms, Bree unpacks what gets in the way and what actually helps. Subscribe for Part 2. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast
	15: Intersex Inclusion at Work: Why Adding the 'I' Isn't Enough	09 Apr 2026	00:28:34
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman is joined by Paul Byrne-Moroney to unpack what meaningful inclusion of the intersex community actually requires. Paul shares his lived experience to challenge common misunderstandings about intersex, including the tendency to conflate biological sex with gender identity. Together, Bree and Paul explore why intersex is not a gender identity or sexuality, and why that distinction matters. This episode calls out the gap between intention and impact when organisations use the full LGBTIQA acronym without engaging the intersex community. Bree and Paul discuss how this shows up in practice, from conference presentations to the use of Pride flags, and why adding the "I" without consultation is not progress. This is a practical and honest conversation about moving beyond performative inclusion, being transparent about your scope, and building approaches grounded in genuine engagement, accountability, and respect. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	14: It's More Than Pronouns: Building Real Trans Inclusion at Work	26 Mar 2026	00:22:54
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman explores what meaningful trans and gender diverse inclusion actually looks like inside organisations. Bree challenges the common starting point of "rolling out pronouns" and explains why visibility initiatives alone do not create safer workplaces. Instead, real inclusion requires organisations to examine the systems and structures that shape people's daily experience at work, including HR databases, payroll systems, policies, and the ways identity data is collected and used. Drawing on their experience supporting organisations across multiple sectors, Bree explains why gender affirmation policies are a foundational step for protecting trans and gender diverse employees. This episode is a practical conversation about moving beyond good intentions and building workplaces where trans and gender diverse people are genuinely safe, respected, and supported. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	13: Compliance Won't Save You: The Leadership Accountability DEI Requires	12 Mar 2026	00:23:52
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr. Bree Gorman is joined by Belonging and Inclusion Strategist and Founder of Belonging Co, Mantej Singh, to explore how leaders can move beyond compliance and tokenism in DEI work. Together, they unpack seven barriers that Mantej believes stall meaningful progress, including HR-only ownership, compliance mindsets, delegation without accountability, and what role leaders should play in DEI. Mantej challenges leaders to take a proactive stance on anti-racism, build racial literacy, and embrace inclusion into core systems rather than treating it as an add-on. This episode is a clear call for leadership accountability. Because inclusion is not measured by policies written, but by what people actually experience on the ground. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	12: Recruitment Changes Who Enters. Culture Decides Who Stays.	26 Feb 2026	00:20:40
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr. Bree Gorman explores recruitment as a powerful, but often over-relied-on tool for building diverse, equitable and inclusive workplaces. Bree unpacks why improving hiring processes alone isn't enough, and how recruitment changes can fall flat when they're not supported by broader system change across the organisation. Drawing on experience, Bree examines where bias and barriers show up throughout recruitment and what it takes to move from representation to real impact. This episode is a call to look beyond who gets hired and focus on the systems that determine who thrives, progresses and stays, because recruitment only works when the whole organisation is designed for equity. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	11: Gender Equality Action Plans	12 Feb 2026	00:20:02
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman unpacks the limits of gender equality action plans when intersectionality is treated as an afterthought. They explore how compliance-driven approaches can unintentionally widen privilege gaps and pull organisations away from more holistic DEI work. Drawing on real-world experience, Bree challenges "fix the people" programs and makes the case for system change, leadership accountability, and acting on imperfect data. This episode is a call to move beyond tick boxes and quotas and design DEI strategies that centre those most marginalised — because when systems work for them, they work better for everyone. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	10: Why DEI Demands More Than Compliance	18 Dec 2025	00:28:23
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman sits down with gender equality leader Michelle Redfern to explore what it really means for organisations to choose the "right side of history" when it comes to DEI. They unpack why compliance and quotas aren't enough on their own, how global politics influences corporate strategy, and why intersectionality must sit at the centre of any genuine gender equity effort. Michelle shares real-world examples from working with executives, boards and multinationals, highlighting the difference between performative commitments and deep cultural evolution. Bree and Michelle discuss visibility, governance, resourcing and the crucial role DEI practitioners play in translating intention into action. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	09: Calling In, Calling Out, Calling On	04 Dec 2025	00:22:43
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman explores how we respond when harmful behaviours show up in our workplaces. From microaggressions and exclusionary comments to ongoing discrimination, Bree unpacks the difference between calling in, calling out, and calling on, and how each approach can support learning without compromising safety or accountability. Drawing on research and real-life moments, Bree explains why shame shuts down growth, why empathy matters even when people "should know better," and how our own power and safety influence how we choose to respond. They share a practical example from community sport that highlights how a grounded, compassionate intervention can shift behaviour far more effectively than blame. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	08: Behind the Scenes: How I Became a DEI Consultant	20 Nov 2025	00:23:23
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman reflects on how transferable skills can shape a meaningful career in DEI. From their beginnings as an analytical chemist to becoming a DEI strategist, Bree shares how critical thinking, stakeholder engagement, and bridging divides all play a role in creating more inclusive workplaces. They also open up about navigating ADHD, career transitions, and the impact of leadership decisions that focus on outcomes rather than hours. This honest conversation reminds us that the path to DEI isn't linear and that inclusion starts when we remove barriers so everyone can thrive. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	07: No One Is An Expert: Why DEI Thrives on Collaboration	06 Nov 2025	00:30:54
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman and Andrew Fitisemanu explore what it really means to be a DEI consultant in today's world. They unpack the myth of "expertise" in a field that's still growing and discuss why humility, honesty, and collaboration are essential for lasting impact. Drawing on personal experiences and candid reflections, Bree and Andrew share insights on protecting DEI practitioners from burnout, creating genuine partnerships with organisations, and amplifying diverse voices within the consulting space. This conversation challenges the idea that one person can do it all and highlights why DEI work succeeds when it's shared. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	06: Rethinking Employee Resource Groups	23 Oct 2025	00:18:44
In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman explores the role of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) and how to build inclusion in long-standing organisations. Creating meaningful DEI change isn't straightforward, existing structures, competing priorities, and unclear objectives can all get in the way. Bree shares insights on how to start with a DEI action plan, clarify the purpose of ERGs, and adapt strategies to meet the evolving needs of your organisation. Drawing on real-world experiences, Bree offers practical guidance for setting up ERGs effectively, evaluating their impact, balancing advocacy with social connection, and ensuring they truly support inclusion, helping DEI practitioners make progress without getting stuck in complexity. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	05: When to Nudge, When to Nurture	09 Oct 2025	00:25:01
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr. Bree Gorman is joined by Winitha Bonney OAM for a conversation on how DEI practitioners can influence leaders and organisations. DEI work can be uncomfortable, and resistance from leadership is common. So how do you bring leaders on board, understand what drives them, and know when to push forward or when to pause and re-assess? Drawing on their own experiences, Bree and Winitha share strategies for navigating the balance between nudge and nurture, offering practical insights for anyone working to create meaningful organisational change. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	04: Who Does DEI Work Belong To?	25 Sep 2025	00:19:09
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman unpacks the question: Who does DEI work really belong to? Bree explores why DEI can't be the responsibility of just one person or department. From the challenges of experts being buried under management layers to the importance of valuing DEI as a specialist skill set, this episode highlights what it truly takes to create lasting systems change. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	03: Performative or Transformative? How to Tell the Difference	11 Sep 2025	00:27:16
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman sits down with DEI leader Teresa Lombardo to unpack the difference between performative and transformative DEI. From rainbow lanyards to LinkedIn posts on days of significance, Bree and Teresa get real about why signs and symbols matter—but only when backed by action. They discuss what true system-level change requires, why leadership accountability is critical, and how to tell if your organisation's DEI efforts are performative gestures or transformative commitments. Listen to this episode so you don't fall into the trap of doing performative DEI rather than transformative, sustainable change making. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com. Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	02: The DEI Plan That Actually Gets Done	28 Aug 2025	00:20:08
In this episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman gets candid about why so many DEI strategies fail, and how to create one that actually sparks change. From shifting the focus from "fixing people" to fixing systems, to avoiding the trap of vague metrics and tokenistic actions, Bree shares practical insights to make your plan both realistic and impactful. They discuss why too many actions can backfire, the importance of organisation-wide ownership, and how good governance keeps a plan alive. Whether you're building a DEI plan from scratch or refreshing an existing one, this episode will challenge the way you think about strategy and help you avoid the pitfalls that keep DEI work from moving forward. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com. Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	01: Is DEI Dead? Why the Work Matters Now More Than Ever	14 Aug 2025	00:12:59
In this debut episode of DEI Will Not Die, Dr Bree Gorman lays the foundation for the podcast with a clear message: while the language and tactics of DEI may change, the need for inclusive, equitable workplaces never goes away. Bree shares the personal and professional journey that led them into diversity, equity and inclusion work—covering everything from higher education to consultancy, ADHD and gender identity. They also reflect on the backlash DEI is facing globally, and why now is the time to double down on real, impactful change. Whether you're leading DEI strategy, part of an Employee Resource Group, managing people and culture, or just passionate about removing barriers in the workplace—this episode offers grounding and solidarity for those doing the work. For tools, coaching, and support: breegorman.com Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.
	Welcome to DEI Will Not Die	18 Jun 2025	00:02:13
https://www.breegorman.com/podcast/Is DEI dead? Not even close. DEI Will Not DIE cuts through the noise with sharp, practical insights for DEI practitioners, people leaders and changemakers. Hosted by Bree Gorman, coach, consultant and trusted voice in DEI strategy and inclusive leadership. This podcast dives into the real work behind impactful equity and inclusion. From building DEI plans that don't gather dust to leading with authenticity, this is your space to reflect, learn and lead with purpose. Show notes and resources: breegorman.com/podcast Want to learn more from Bree? Follow me on LinkedIn for weekly insights, updates and behind-the-scenes. Subscribe to our newsletter for tools and practical resources delivered to your inbox. Explore more at breegorman.com.

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