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The humble mushroom might be the most misunderstood organism on our planet. Walking Arabia Mountain with mycology expert Darling Ngoh reveals a hidden world of intelligence networks pulsing beneath our feet—without a single brain cell in sight.

Mushrooms are reshaping how we understand intelligence itself. While exploring the unique granite landscape of this Georgia landmark, we discover that fungal networks operate with startling efficiency, solving complex problems that baffle human engineers. Scientists in Japan and the UK have found that slime molds—relatives of fungi—can design transportation networks more efficiently than urban planners. These organisms, despite having no central nervous system, showcase problem-solving abilities that challenge our understanding of cognition.

The conversation winds through unexpected territory as we explore how 80-90% of trees worldwide connect through underground fungal networks in cooperative relationships. Trees actually lower their cellular defenses to invite mycelium inside their roots—a partnership that has sustained forest ecosystems for millions of years. This natural cooperation model raises profound questions about human systems that prioritize competition over collaboration.

Ranger Darling's own journey bridges two seemingly disconnected worlds: data science and forest ecology. Through his organization Hikes of Georgia, he's creating innovative conservation strategies while teaching beginners how to safely identify mushrooms. 

The beautiful granite outcrops of Arabia Mountain, with their endangered plant species growing in solution pits formed over centuries, provide the perfect backdrop for contemplating how we might better align human innovation with nature's proven success strategies.

Join us to discover why fungi might hold solutions to our most pressing challenges—from healthcare to climate change to technological advancement. 

Follow Hikes of Georgia on social media or visit Arabia Mountain on weekends for a chance to meet Ranger Darling in person and explore this hidden gem just outside Atlanta.

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What if history isn’t just something we remember, but something we carry, share, and keep alive through stories?  Walking through Austin, Texas's Zilker Park with award-winning Chickasaw storyteller Amy Bluemel transforms a conversation about history into a profound exploration of human connection, cultural preservation, and the universal language of storytelling.

Amy immediately challenges our modern assumptions by revealing how storytellers functioned as historians before written language existed. "We kept the history of battles or illnesses, or moons and years and where people went and where they came from," she explains, highlighting how oral traditions preserved essential community knowledge across generations. Science confirms this approach works—our brains retain information more effectively through stories.

Amy shares the Chickasaw migration story, featuring divine twins, a sacred pole that pointed their direction, and a protective white dog who eventually became the Milky Way. These narratives aren't just entertaining—they're sophisticated vehicles for cultural knowledge, spiritual wisdom, and ancestral connections that have survived despite systematic attempts to silence Native voices.

Amy then provides a timeline of cultural suppression: "It was illegal for Native Americans to practice their religion until 1978," she reveals. "I was 12." This places modern Native American cultural revitalization in proper context—not as ancient history but as ongoing resistance against very recent oppression. As we witness current political movements attempting to remove uncomfortable historical narratives from museums and educational spaces, Amy's insights become even more urgent.

The episode culminates with Amy sharing a traditional trickster tale about Rabbit trying to convince Creator to give him more brains—a story that perfectly demonstrates how Native American storytelling incorporates humor, moral lessons, and cultural values simultaneously. As she explains, these stories adapt with each telling while preserving essential truths, much like cultures themselves must adapt while maintaining their core identities.

Ready to experience storytelling that bridges cultures and centuries? Subscribe now to join our journey exploring the powerful stories that connect us all, and follow Amy's work at https://amybluemelstoryteller.com/

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Welcome to Deep in the Woods, a podcast that journeys through the natural world, exploring profound words and uncovering their connections to our lives. Each episode delves into a specific theme or word, reflecting on its significance through thoughtful conversations and immersive hikes.

In this episode, we are thrilled to welcome back Dan Vollaro, an English professor and writer, including his essay collection "Reservoir: Tales from the Other Jersey." 

Together, we explore the sacred act of walking, reflecting on how this daily routine enhances creativity and helps us reconnect with ourselves. Our conversation takes place in the serene Green Meadow Preserve in West Cobb County, Georgia, surrounded by gardens, hiking trails, and meadows filled with wildflowers.

Dan shares his insights on the historical and cultural significance of walking, drawing from his knowledge of various writers who used this daily practice to fuel their creativity. We discuss how walking in nature serves as a form of meditation, helping us re-center and reconnect with ourselves. Our exploration is guided by the words of Casper Ter Kuile who reminds us to set an intention, use all our senses, and return home with a new perspective.

As we hike through Green Meadow Preserve, Dan and I discover the rich biodiversity of the area, including gardens filled with plants used by the Cherokee Native Americans for food and medicine. We marvel at the wildflowers in the large meadow and come across collections of bee boxes, highlighting the area's commitment to conservation and natural beauty.

We also delve into the writings of Henry David Thoreau, discussing his essay on walking and the concept of wildness as a preservation of the world. Dan shares his personal experiences of finding a sense of the sacred in nature, a theme that resonates deeply throughout our conversation. We touch on the balance between seeking solitude in the wild and the practicalities of modern life, emphasizing that meaningful experiences can be found close to home.

Join us as we uncover the profound connections between walking, creativity, and spirituality. Whether you're a seasoned hiker or someone looking to find peace in nature, this episode offers insights and inspiration for everyone.

Tune in to Deep in the Woods on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform. Visit our website at www.wordsandwoods.com and follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/andrew_words_and_woods/) for more updates, pictures, and videos related to each episode. Don't forget to leave a review and join the conversation!

Special thanks to Dan Vollaro for joining us, Ryan Cherry for the music, Applyn McEntyre for the podcast cover art, and Ryan Tomlinson for the website. 

Thank you for listening, and we look forward to having you with us on the next episode of Deep in the Woods!

Quote from podcast:

“I think I cannot preserve my health and spirits unless I spend four hours a day at least–and it is commonly more than that– sauntering through the woods and fields absolutely free from all worldly engagements.” -Henry David Thoreau from "Walking" essay

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Welcome to the Deep in the Woods Podcast, where we embark on a journey through the natural world, explore profound words, and uncover the connections they hold in our lives.In today's episode, I have the pleasure of taking a walk with Tim Villegas, who has chosen the word "Belonging." Tim serves as the Director of Communications for the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education (MCIE) and hosts both the Think Inclusive podcast and his recent project, "Inclusion Stories." Before his current role, Tim worked as a special education teacher and has always advocated for the inclusion of learners with significant disabilities in general education classrooms.For our hike, Tim selected the Environmental Trail at Kennesaw Mountain National Battlefield Park. This nature loop offers a scenic escape with ample space to sit on a bench and observe the surroundings. It provides a quieter alternative to the main trail at Kennesaw Mountain, perfect for those seeking a peaceful stroll.I want to express my heartfelt gratitude to Tim for joining me on this hike and for the wonderful conversation we shared. Special thanks also go to Ryan Cherry for providing the music that accompanies our podcast, my daughter, Applyn McEntyre, for her creative contribution in designing our podcast cover art, and Ryan Tomlinson for designing the website, www.wordsandwoods.com.Please check out our Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/andrew_words_and_woods/ where you can find pictures, videos, and posts related to this episode. Feel free to join the conversation by commenting on the posts, and I would greatly appreciate it if you could leave a review of the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or other platforms.As always, thank you for listening to the Deep in the Woods podcast!Quote and Links: Quote by Henry David Thoreau from "Civil Disobedience: "...if there’s an evil of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. Let your life be a counter friction to stop the machine. What I have to do is to see, at any rate, that I do not lend myself to the wrong which I condemn." Passage from "The Word for World is Forest" by Ursula K. Le Guin, "It was not in his nature to think, 'What can I do?' Character and training disposed him not to interfere in other men's business. He preferred to be enlightened rather than to enlighten, to seek facts rather than the Truth. But even the most unmissionary soul, unless he pretend he has no emotions, is sometimes faced with a choice between commission and omission. 'What are they doing?' abruptly becomes, 'What are we doing?' and then, "What must I do?" Link to MCIE Think Inclusive Page: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/ Link to Inclusion Stories Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inclusion-stories/id1633672526 Think Inclusive Instagram Page: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/ Tim's Instagram Page: https://www.instagram.com/therealtimvegas/

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Welcome to the Deep in the Woods podcast, where we delve into the profound meanings of everyday words and the places they lead us. In this special episode, we continue our exploration of the word "sacred," taking you on a journey through time and memory.

In the last installment, we explored the historic McEntyre home from the 1840s and 1850s, reflecting on the concept of sacredness as something set apart with greater meaning. Today, we pick up where we left off, delving deeper into the significance of sacred spaces.

Join us as we venture to the ancestral home of the host's grandparents, Sybil and Hansel Dutton, a place steeped in childhood memories and familial connections. Through vivid recollections of exploring old barns and building forts amidst hedge bushes, we uncover the essence of sacredness intertwined with personal history.

As the host walks through the fields and reflects on cherished memories, from blizzards to family gatherings, we witness the transformative power of shared experiences. Through the lens of his grandparents' legacy of hospitality and kindness, we discover how everyday acts of love ripple through generations, shaping our identities and values.

Through heartfelt storytelling and moments of reflection, we explore the dual nature of memory, encompassing both joyful recollections and painful scars. Yet, in each memory lies a thread of sacredness, woven into the fabric of our lives.

Join us on this poignant journey as we ponder the meaning of sacredness and the profound impact of our shared stories. Through the sounds of nature and echoes of the past, we invite you to pause, reflect, and discover the sacredness in your own experiences.

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Welcome to the Deep in the Woods podcast, where we dive into the impact of language while exploring meaningful places from our lives.

In this episode, I take you on a stroll around an old farm with a house that belonged to my great-great-great grandparents, William Tedford McEntyre and Sarah Hall McEntyre. We'll be exploring and digging deep into the word "Sacred."

We'll dig into family history, reflecting on whether stories from our ancestors carry the same weight as those from our immediate family. We'll also ponder the idea of leaving a legacy and whether it still matters as much today as it did in the past.

But it's not all nostalgia. We'll confront the uncomfortable truths too, like grappling with the actions of our ancestors, including owning slaves and displacing Native Americans.

Throughout our walk, we'll be sharing some thought-provoking quotes, like this one from Doctor Who: "We are all stories in the end, make yours a good one." And of course, some wisdom from Benjamin Franklin: "If you would not be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten, either write things worth reading, or do things worth writing."

So, come along as we explore the past, present, and the power of words in the Deep in the Woods podcast.

This episode is part one of a three part episode. Check back soon for the next in the series!

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In this special reunion episode, join hosts Dan Vollaro, Ryan Cherry, Ryan Tomlinson, Cade Curtis, and Andrew McEntyre as they embark on a reflective journey through the past year of the 'Deep in the Woods' podcast. The theme of 'Crossroads' becomes the guiding thread, weaving connections between the diverse topics explored in each of their individual episodes. Together, they take a moment to 'be in the present,' delving into the evolution of the podcast over the past year and sharing exciting ideas for its future. Tune in for a "nostalgic" conversation that captures the essence of memory, connection, harmony, "sonder," and the ever-expanding horizons of 'Deep in the Woods.'

Check out the new Instagram page for "Words and Woods" which will include updates for this podcast: https://www.instagram.com/andrew_words_and_woods/

Show notes:

• Lyrics used from Auld Lang Syne, "We have run about the hills, And pulled the daisies fine; But we've wander'd many a weary foot, since auld lang syne. We two have paddled in the brook, From mornin' sun till dinnertime: But seas between us road have roar'd, since auld lang syne."
• Quote from Amy Krouse Rosenthal from "Cookies:" "Honest means, I have to tell you something. The butterfly didn't really take the cookie--I took the cookie. Courageous means, It was not easy for me to tell you that I took the cookie, but I took a deep breath...and made the words come out."
• Information on the removal of African Americans from Forsyth County: https://www.npr.org/transcripts/494063372
• Information on Leo Frank Lynching: https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-leo-frank
• Alan Watt's book referenced by Cade: "The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are."
• Dan Vollaro's blog: https://www.danvollaro.com/
• Ryan Cherry's music: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1BvmtTThy2RclmCpu31yR6
• Ryan Cherry's band "1996": https://www.instagram.com/1996atl/
• Cade Curtis' podcast: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/learning-from-friends-cade-curtis-9g_KB4NUkvP/
• Learning from Friends episode with Cade Curtis interviewed by Andrew McEntyre: https://open.spotify.com/episode/22PJOGq5S2A7KnfcnwPwFz?si=uYYId2yJSsqxk2OaskX6jQ
• Ryan Tomlinson's easter egg: "Peter Quistgard"
• Quote from Cade's Mother: "The universe is made up of stories, not atoms." -Muriel Rukeyser

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On Episode 8 of the Deep in the Woods podcast, we take boat ride onto Allatoona Lake with my dad, Dale McEntyre. He has chosen the word, "Fishing." 

We discuss how he started fishing, why he finds it to be relaxing and exciting, and some memories we had as a family around the fishing pole and bass boat. He also tells some mysterious stories including one where his bait was levitating high up in the air.

Key quote:

• "Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." - Henry David Thoreau

This will be the last episode for this season and year. The next season should begin next February with the possibility of a bonus episode sometime near Christmas.

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On Episode 7 of the Deep in the Woods podcast, Damiao Wang and I walk a trail located behind the Rock Garden in Calhoun, GA. This garden included miniaturized versions of castles and other buildings that allow you to walk around and explore.

Damiao is from China and has been living in the United States since early 2020.  In China, he worked as an electrical engineer and co-owned a coffee shop and bakery. For our discussion, he has chosen the word "Genes" or "Genetics," which opens the door to a deep exploration of how his family views GMOs (genetically modified organisms) and their influence on their culinary practices. This word invites us to delve into a range of thought-provoking topics, including the ethics of modifying human DNA, the delicate balance observed in nature, Damiao's insightful concept of "Cultural Genetics" and how nations can metaphorically undergo genetic modification or mutation.

Some key quotes from the podcast:

• “The one who plants trees, knowing that he will never sit in their shade, has at least started to understand the meaning of life.” by Rabindranath Tagore
• References to John Green's podcast, "The Anthropocene Reviewed" with links below:
• "Capacity for Wonder" Episode: https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/anthropocene-reviewed/episodes/anthropocene-reviewed-capacity-wonder-and-sunsets
• Sycamore Trees" Episode: https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/anthropocene-reviewed/episodes/anthropocene-reviewed-air-conditioning-and-sycamore-trees

Thank you again for listening, feel free to reach out to me at almcentyre@gmail.com if you have questions or want to provide feedback!

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On episode 6 of the Deep in the Woods podcast, I take a walk at Pooles Mill Bridge Park located in Forsyth County, GA. We talk with Tammy Deal about the word, "Inclusion." Tammy is a huge advocate and supporter of students and adults with disabilities. It is her passion and heart to serve this community, and she has given her time and energy to see their betterment! As we walk through the old bridge and avoid hornets as well as watch young kids swim in the creek, we discuss our own experiences working with individuals with disabilities and how that has impacted our understanding of what inclusion means to each of us. We tell stories of how our former students have directly affected who we have become and shaped our values and direction in life. We also discuss how important it is to spend time with this community as it helps build empathy while lowering stigmas and fear related to interacting with people with disabilities.We hope you enjoy this episode as you learn about unique events like Night to Shine which was created by Tim Tebow. I also hope you find the chance to be vulnerable in life as Tammy and I once did when we dance for our students to Pop See Ko which can be found on GoNoodle. Please join alongside us as we walk the trails around Settingdown Creek and explore in depth the word, "Inclusion."Key Quotes: A lot of times, when you have a disability, one of the things you deal with is other people's projections of what your experience is and their fear about it, and not seeing the experience you're having. There's nothing horrifying about it to me. It is what I deal with. It is my reality and my life, but it's not horrible. -Michael J. Fox

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For episode five of the Deep in the Woods podcast, I decide to take a hike alone and discuss the word, "Solitude." I started the journey at the Cooper Day Use area on the banks of the Allatoona Lake then made my way past down on the Cooper's Furnace Trail which leads to the edge of the Etowah River at the base of Allatoona Dam located in Cartersville, GA.

In this episode, I explore the word "solitude" by contemplating why people seek alone time in general, the fears and anxieties related to being by oneself, and my own personal needs and desires related to spending time away in nature. This journey allowed me to gain greater insight into how "solitude" requires a balance in our lives while understanding there is always a pull in both directions between fear and freedom.

I do hope you enjoy this episode as I walked around Cooper's Furnace and found connections with the word, "Solitude."

Some Key References and Quotes:

Both the movie and the book, "Into the Wild" were referenced during this episode. The movie was directed by Sean Penn in 2007. The book was written by Jon Krakauer in 1997 about Christopher McCandless.

Quote from the Golden Compass, "That's the duty of the old...to be anxious on the behalf of the young. And the duty of the young is to scorn the anxiety of the old."

Quote referenced from Michael Singer from "The Untethered Soul:" To get some distance from this, you first need to get some perspective. Walk outside on a clear night and just look up into the sky. You are sitting on a planet spinning around in the middle of absolutely nowhere. Though you can only see a few thousand stars, there are hundreds of billions of stars in our Milky Way Galaxy alone. In fact, it is estimated that there are over a trillion stars in the Spiral Galaxy. And that galaxy would look like one star to us, if we could even see it. You're just standing on one little ball of dirt and spinning around one of the stars. From that perspective, do you really care what people think about your clothes or your car? Do you really need to feel embarrassed if you forget someone's name? How can you less these meaningless things cause pain? If you want out, if you want a decent life, you had better not devote your life to avoiding psychological pain. You better not spend your life worrying about whether people like you or whether your car impresses people. What kind of life is that? It is a life of pain. You may not think that you feel pain that often, but you really do. To spend life avoiding pain means it's always right behind you." 

Quotes from Henry David Thoreau, "By my intimacy with nature I find myself withdrawn from man. My interest in the sun and the moon, in the morning and the evening, compels me to solitude." Also, " I have an immense appetite for solitude, like an infant for sleep, and if I don't get enough for this year, I shall cry all the next." 

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Dr. Rick Diamond joins me on a sunlit morning walk around Austin's beautiful Mueller Lake Park to explore a concept that fundamentally changes how we move through the world: Awakening.

"We are really asleep a lot of the time," Rick shares as we begin our conversation, explaining how most of us operate from "scripts" we've inherited or created without ever questioning their validity. As a Story Healer, Rick works with individuals and organizations to examine the narratives that drive their lives and find healing through greater self-awareness.

The power of our discussion lies in Rick's accessible approach to awakening—not as some mystical achievement requiring mountain-top meditation, but as simple moments of clarity that happen when we're willing to pause and look inward. He shares a touching example of helping a client transform anger toward his father into compassion through one simple question: "What do you think your father was struggling with?"

Our conversation weaves through the distinction between experiencing emotions versus identifying with them. "We have all these feelings that are in response to our experience, but we're not our feelings," Rick emphasizes. This shift in perspective—from "I am angry" to "I am experiencing anger"—creates liberating space between ourselves and our momentary feelings.

We discuss how modern life's constant stimulation makes this inner work challenging, yet even more essential. The metaphor of "repairing a roller coaster while riding it" perfectly captures the difficulty of examining our programming while still living our busy lives.

Whether you're curious about personal growth, struggling with recurring patterns, or simply feeling there must be more to life than running on autopilot, this conversation offers practical wisdom for anyone seeking to live more consciously. Listen now to discover what might be possible when you recognize yourself as what Rick beautifully describes as "an eternal soul having a human experience."

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During the fourth episode of "Deep in the Woods," Cade Curtis and I take a stroll through his family farm in Free Home, GA. Our trek involves navigating through deep mud, cow trails, and repairing broken fences. Cade is a multi-talented individual who teaches Social Studies at a middle school, delivers bread, works at auctions, and hosts his own podcast, "Learning From Friends."

In this episode, Cade selected the word "Sonder" as a focal point for our discussion. This exceptional word is featured in the Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows and refers to the realization that individuals in the background of our lives have their own intricate and fulfilling narratives, where they are the protagonist. We utilized this term to explore various subjects, such as how our experiences shape our outlooks and decisions, the significance of preserving our personal stories, and the value of taking a moment to observe our surroundings.

I hope you enjoy our conversation as we explore the word, "Sonder" while we walk around Cade Curtis' family farm in Free Home, GA.

Few Revisions:

• Cade references the song, "Four minutes, thirty-three seconds" and attributes it to Nick Gage. The correct artist is John Gage.
• The quote "A man can do what he wills, but he cannot will what he wills" was attributed to Erwin Schrodinger. The correct person is Arthur Schopenhauer.

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In this third episode of Deep in the Woods, Ryan Tomlinson and I walk around the gravel path at Manning Mill Park in Adairsville, Georgia which is next to the home that Ryan lived in for around 10 years when his sons were growing up. Ryan Tomlinson is an entrepreneur who runs several businesses from home. He is also a close friend of mine, and we met at a church in Adairsville around 25 years ago. 

For this episode, Ryan has chosen the word, "Connection" to build our discussion around which leads to many deep conversations including the polarization in our society, the ability to maintain deep connections on social media platforms, and the complexity of finding value from creators we may not agree with. We also discussed the evolution of our own friendship over the past two decades and the struggles with finding connection as our own lives and values have changed.

I hope you enjoy our conversation as we explore the word, "Connection" while we navigate the loop around Manning Mill Park!

Quotes and Key Passages:

-Damien Rice: "What are you so afraid to lose? What is it you're thinking that will happen if you do?"

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In the second episode of Deep in the Woods, Ryan Cherry and I take a hike at Olde Rope Mill Park in Cherokee County, Georgia which follows the edge of Little River which then flows into Lake Allatoona. This is the site of multiple mills including one that manufactured the rope for tents during World War 2. Ryan Cherry is a Special Education Teacher and talented musician with multiple projects. Ryan has chosen the word, "Harmony" to guide our discussion which leads to other topics including his struggles with anxiety, the increased demand for dystopian and adventure themes in the media, and the impact of ego and pride when making decisions about careers and artistic expression. I hope you enjoy our conversation as we explore the word, "Harmony" as we hike the edge of Little River at Olde Rope Mill Park.

Quotes and Key Passages:

• Avett Brothers: "I wanna have pride like my mother has, And not like the kind in the bible that turns you bad."
• Jim Carrey: "The difference between depression and sadness is that sadness is just from happenstance. Whatever happened or didn’t happen for you, or grief or whatever it is. Depression is your body saying...I don’t want to be this character anymore. I don’t want to hold up this avatar that you created. And the world is too much for me,’
• Rick Rubin: “The power of nature is what all art strives to be. The more we can get in tune with the harmony of the planet, the more our art can benefit from that relationship”
• Harmony in Music: "Certain types of music resolves. Do you feel like certain music that you lean more to has a resolution? Yeah, if you think about blues...it has a typical chord progression throughout its music. The key might change, but chords and structure is very similar, and the reason why is because it resolves. It comes back to the start and is repetitive in a pleasing way. Yes, it finds closure!"
• Anxiety, OCD, and Need for Harmony: "We wear these masks often and want to show people what they want to see...around our family, friends, and especially around people who evaluate or judge you. It's like, 'Look, I'm doing great things,' because you want them to see you are doing a great job. There's a big trail here that leads back to family...I think anxiety drives from losing something that you are holding on to. Because as a family, you want to make sure your financially stable, you want to make sure your children are safe, and you want to make sure your relationship with your spouse is intact; and all of that, you have this balancing act where you think 'If I drop something, if I mess up, that can lose these things that I am holding onto.'" What if I lose my job because I mess up at work? How is that going to impact my family? What if I say the wrong thing? Again, 'what if's' are the key word for anxiety.
• Pride, Ego, and Imposter Syndrome: "Is it possible to let go of that ego? Yes, my wife and I talked about this and she would ask, 'Why are you really doing that? Are you doing it just to get affirmation that you are doing things right? And we can talk about the Imposter Syndrom thing? What is Imposter Syndrome? You feel like everyone around you is going to figure out that you don't really know what you are doing...the fear that everyone will find out that you are only faking it until you make it."

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In this first episode, Dan Vollaro and I take walk on the backside of Kennesaw Moutain called Pigeon Hill, the site of a deadly Civil War battle.  Dan, who is a writer and teacher, chose the word "Memory" to guide our deep discussion.  Some topics include collective memory, nostalgia, technology, racial injustice, and many others.  I hope you enjoy the connections we discover through the word "Memory" as we hike Pigeon Hill on Little Kennesaw Mountain.

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Walking through a cemetery in Marietta, Georgia creates the perfect backdrop for contemplating time – that elusive concept we all experience yet struggle to understand. What happens when we recognize that our past and future exist only as stories we tell ourselves?

During this solitary walk among thousands of gravestones, I share a recent dream where I met both past and future versions of myself, sparking profound questions about how we perceive time. Drawing from philosophers like Alan Watts, I explore how time functions as a relative concept – much like musical notes that only make sense in relation to other notes. The cemetery itself becomes a powerful metaphor, with each gravestone representing someone whose eternal present moments have ended, while ours continue.

The revelation that emerges from this cemetery walk is both simple and transformative: the stories we create about our past experiences and future expectations dictate nearly every present decision we make. But in any given moment, we possess the remarkable power to change these narratives. When we become aware of the eternal nature of the present moment, we can observe our thoughts, recognize how our self-created stories influence us, and consciously choose which narratives truly serve us.

This episode marks the beginning of a new season exploring how our individual stories connect to something larger – like waves in an ocean crashing against the same shore. While perfect presence may elude us, those moments when we can step back and observe our thoughts with clarity offer us freedom from the limitations of stories we no longer need to believe.

Follow the podcast on Instagram for shorter clips about words and join me on these walks where we take one word and go deep into its meaning and connections to our lives.

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Deep in the Woods – Season 3, Episode 1: Freedom

Welcome to Deep in the Woods with Andrew McEntyre, where storytelling meets the mysteries of life. Season 3 begins with a powerful episode on freedom, exploring personal and political liberties through the firsthand experiences of Tessie Peace.

Walking through Swift Cantrell Park in Kennesaw, Georgia, Tessie recounts her time living in Iran during the Islamic Revolution, a period that reshaped an entire nation overnight. She shares deeply personal insights into what happens when human rights, free speech, and women’s rights are stripped away under an authoritarian regime. Her words serve as a stark reminder of how fragile freedom can be:

🔹 “I have seen freedom taken away, and I know how serious it is.”
🔹 “You had to be very careful about what you said in public because they would put you in prison—or worse.”
🔹 “Freedom isn’t just a word. It’s something we must protect.”

Through compelling stories of Iranian culture, from the hospitality of its people to the richness of its food and Persian rugs, Tessie contrasts the beauty of a nation with the dark reality of government control, religious oppression, and the loss of personal autonomy.

This episode is a must-listen for those interested in history, global politics, human rights, and the ongoing fight for democracy. It also draws parallels to current discussions about religious influence in government, personal freedoms in the U.S., and the importance of civic engagement.

As the conversation unfolds, we ask: What does freedom mean in today’s world? How can we protect it? And are we, like the proverbial frog in boiling water, ignoring the warning signs of its erosion?

Join us on this walk as we explore these crucial questions. If you’re passionate about freedom, democracy, civil rights, and the power of storytelling, this episode will challenge you to think deeper.

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In this special bonus episode of Deep in the Woods, I take a unique approach—stepping into the kitchen with Damiao Wang as we prepare a meal for the Spring Festival, also known as Chinese New Year. Damiao shares the word homage and reflects on the traditions, ancestral reverence, and cultural stories that make this celebration so meaningful.

As we cook dishes like shrimp stir-fry, dumplings, and Guobao Rou, Damiao recounts childhood memories of fireworks, family gatherings, and honoring ancestors through rituals passed down for generations. We also explore the connection between storytelling and remembrance, touching on poetry, history, and the importance of keeping traditions alive.

For the first time, Deep in the Woods is also available in video format! Watch the full cooking experience on YouTube at https://youtu.be/xs-3HtAldIY?si=qYLXn26DJe6PD4Kn

Season 3 of Deep in the Woods launches in March, focusing on the power of storytelling. Stay tuned for more inspiring conversations and immersive walks through the stories that connect us all.

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In this thoughtful season finale, Andrew McEntyre returns to the East Palisades with Eugene O'Donnell to finish a conversation filled with reflections on faith, resilience, and life’s challenges. Together, they explore the valleys we face and the transformative growth that can emerge from them.

Eugene reflects on his recovery from an injury on this very trail: "At the time, I thought it was just a stupid ankle thing. Now I realize there was a lot more loaded into that, and God had some amazing things to unpack." His story highlights how setbacks can reveal deeper opportunities for change and perspective.

Andrew opens up about his journey of deconstruction and rebuilding his view of spirituality: "When someone asks, ‘Do you believe in God?’ it’s a loaded question for me. My brain automatically goes to fear—fear of answering wrong, fear of the consequences. That’s why it’s no longer about answering the question but about having a relationship rooted in love, not fear or guilt." It is no longer about checking a box; no longer based on ritual but now on relationships.

Andrew and Eugene also delve into Joseph Campbell's hero’s journey. "It's like the leaves we're walking on—they have to die to grow back. It's a cycle," Eugene reflects, connecting the struggles of life to broader spiritual narratives.

As the clouds part during their hike, Andrew captures the significance of the moment: "First, it’s dark, but then the light pokes through—a reminder that perspective can change everything."

Join us for this inspiring conclusion to Season 2, a conversation about comebacks, faith, and the beauty of finding meaning in life’s challenges.

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Andrew McEntyre takes us deeper into the theme of "Comebacks" in part two of his conversation with Eugene O'Donnell as they continue their walk on the Whitewater or East Palisades Trail in Atlanta, GA. This episode connects the dots between historical resilience, personal growth, and the powerful reconstruction of faith.

Reflecting on Atlanta's journey from devastation to a global hub, Eugene shares, "Sometimes those trials can really make a huge difference in your life." 

The duo weaves this perspective into personal stories, with Andrew adding, "Deconstruction requires reconstruction. Like Atlanta rising from the ashes, sometimes faith must be broken down to be rebuilt stronger."

The walk is not only about physical trials but also about exploring life's deeper questions. "You can't raise Him from the dead if he doesn't die," Eugene observes, tying the idea of loss to renewal. Along the way, they discuss the value of moments in nature, as Andrew notes, "The wild is where I see God the most—raw, untamed, and true."

With vivid descriptions of the Chattahoochee River and insightful reflections on faith, fear, and resilience, this episode invites listeners to pause, reflect, and embrace the power of comebacks.

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In this deeply reflective episode of Deep in the Woods, we take a walk along the East Palisades or Whitewater Trail by the Chattahoochee River with Eugene O'Donnell, an Atlanta native and seasoned hiker who has experienced life’s highs and lows. Against the backdrop of flowing waters, golden autumn leaves, and a tranquil morning mist, Eugene shares his insights on the word “Comeback” — a theme that resonates throughout his journey of physical recovery, spiritual growth, and personal transformation.

Eugene recounts how a severe ankle injury upended his plans, sidelining him from hiking and even walking for months. “I never imagined a single misstep could reshape my perspective so profoundly,” he says. This injury, combined with job transitions and other life challenges, became a crucible for change, teaching him patience, the value of slowing down, and the importance of faith. “God allows adversity to get our attention, not as punishment, but as grace,” Eugene explains, connecting his personal comeback to a broader spiritual narrative.

As we hike through one of Atlanta’s hidden gems, Eugene reflects on the parallels between the trails we walk and the paths we navigate in life. He compares life’s struggles to viewing the world through a Pringles can, saying, “Adversity widens that view, letting us see things we’d otherwise miss.” Along the way, we touch on themes of resilience, the lessons of failure, and the beauty of rediscovering joy in small moments — like watching a heron glide across the river or seeing the sun break through the fog.

"Every day is a comeback," Eugene says, reminding us that setbacks can lead to growth, and even suffering holds the seeds of transformation. Whether you’re here for hiking inspiration, spiritual insights, or just a good story, this episode offers something for everyone.

Thank you for listening to Part One on this episode about "Comeback!" Please join us for Parts Two and Three, which are coming soon!

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In this episode of Deep in the Woods, Andrew McEntyre and guest Keith King take a walk along the peaceful banks of the Oostanaula River. They dive into the layered challenges of building community, supporting families in need, and wrestling with the concept of responsibility—both personal and collective. Against the backdrop of changing leaves and crisp fall air, they explore the meaning of "doing the work," not just as a task, but as a commitment to serve others, no matter how messy or complex the journey may be.

Keith shares stories of his efforts to help a family in dire need, recounting the physical and emotional toll of cleaning, restoring, and organizing community support to give them a fresh start. "I want to help so many," Keith reflects, "but it’s a hard balance, because there’s a trade-off of sacrifice on my own family."

Andrew and Keith touch on the limitations of local government and the crucial role of community, reflecting on how small acts of kindness and personal relationships often bridge gaps that institutions can’t. "Local government can only help so far," Keith notes, discussing the unique network of faith-based groups and nonprofits that rise to meet urgent needs in ways that extend beyond bureaucratic limits.

Through honest discussions on faith, politics, and community, this episode delves into the struggles and beauty of working together—especially when it means setting aside personal beliefs or labels. "Some things have to be set aside to let us be humans together who need each other," Andrew says. They talk about the challenge of removing these "labels" and "boxes" that divide us, and focus on simply being there for one another.

Join this introspective walk and feel the power of real-life stories and candid dialogue on how to make a difference, one small, sometimes difficult step at a time.

Quotes from this episode:

• ​“True leaders feel the pain of the wounds of those they serve.”
• ​“If I live my life as a means to an end, in the end, what will it mean?”
• ​“Just be decent. Show kindness. Because the world needs more of it.”

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What happens to our minds when we step away from constant connection? In this immersive conversation with Eric Graves, Executive Director of the Len Foote Hike Inn, we discover the profound mental health benefits that emerge when we disconnect from technology and reconnect with nature and each other.

Walking through the Chattahoochee National Forest near Amicalola Falls, Eric reveals how the backcountry lodge he oversees has become more than just a destination—it's a sanctuary for mental well-being. For 23 years, he's witnessed thousands of guests transform as they complete the five-mile hike to this rustic retreat where cell phones stay in pockets and strangers become friends around the dinner table.

The conversation takes us beyond mere digital detox philosophy into the tangible reality of what happens when people truly unplug. We explore how face-to-face communication has startlingly become a skill rather than a given, especially for younger generations raised on screens. Eric shares observations about his own daughters—one raised before smartphones dominated, the other fully immersed in digital culture—and the stark differences in their ability to connect with others in person.

Perhaps most compelling is the discussion about how technology is reshaping our problem-solving abilities. Eric notes how younger staff members approach challenges differently, often seeking pre-packaged solutions rather than working through problems with critical thinking. At the hike-in, where situations rarely have cookie-cutter answers, this generational shift becomes particularly evident.

What emerges isn't a wholesale rejection of technology—Eric himself uses bird identification apps and fitness trackers—but rather a call for intentional balance. The hike-in represents a model where technology serves as a tool rather than a master, where the process of experiencing nature matters as much as capturing the perfect sunset photo.

Whether you're feeling mentally drained from constant connectivity or simply curious about how nature affects our psychological well-being, this episode offers both scientific insights and practical wisdom. Join us for this thoughtful exploration of what it means to be healthy in mind and spirit in our increasingly digital world.

Check out the Len Foote Hike Inn by exploring their website at www.hike-inn.com.  You can make reservations to stay directly from this site!