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The A.I. Revolution11 Dec 202401:31:05

A panel of leading voices in A.I., including experts on capabilities, safety and investing, and policy and governance, tease out some of the big debates over the future of A.I and try to find some common ground. The discussion is moderated by Kevin Roose, a technology columnist at The Times.

Participants:

  • Jack Clark, co-founder and head of policy at Anthropic
  • Ajeya Cotra, senior program officer for potential risks from advanced A.I. at Open Philanthropy
  • Sarah Guo, founder and managing partner at Conviction
  • Dan Hendrycks, director of the Center for A.I. Safety
  • Rana el Kaliouby, co-founder and general partner at Blue Tulip Ventures
  • Eugenia Kuyda, founder and chief executive of Replika
  • Peter Lee, president of Microsoft Research at Microsoft
  • Marc Raibert, executive director of the A.I. Institute and founder of Boston Dynamics
  • Josh Woodward, vice president of Google Labs
  • Tim Wu, the Julius Silver Professor of Law, Science and Technology at Columbia Law School and former special assistant to the president for technology and competition policy

The conversation was recorded at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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The Other Game: How Athletes Become Brands11 Dec 202401:27:52

A panel of athletes discuss their career journeys, from sports to building their brands. The discussion is moderated by Jess Sims, host at The Athletic.

Participants:

  • Jordan Chiles, gold-medal-winning Olympic gymnast
  • Napheesa Collier, forward for the Minnesota Lynx and co-founder of Unrivaled
  • Bomani Jones, host of “The Right Time with Bomani Jones”
  • Renee Montgomery, co-owner and vice president of the Atlanta Dream and two-time W.N.B.A. champion
  • Jesse Palmer, television host and entrepreneur
  • Hope Solo, World Cup and Olympic champion and activist
  • Justin Tuck, retired N.F.L. player and managing director in private wealth management at Goldman Sachs

The conversation was recorded at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Serena Williams on Her Impact in Sports and Beyond05 Dec 202400:30:11

The 23-time Grand Slam tennis champion and managing partner of Serena Ventures discusses the moment women’s sports is having, what it’s like to be the GOAT and her next steps in the business world.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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A Conversation With Bill Clinton on America’s Future05 Dec 202400:43:37

The 42nd president of the United States discusses the Democratic Party’s election loss, the chaotic moments after President Biden dropped out of the race, and Mr. Biden’s decision to pardon his son.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Ken Griffin Says 'America Is Open For Business Again'05 Dec 202400:32:56

The influential investor and founder and chief executive of Citadel discusses why he voted for Mr. Trump, the president-elect’s tariff plan and how financial markets and political dynamics are shaping the future of the U.S. economy.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Sam Altman on the Future of A.I. and Society05 Dec 202400:36:53

The co-founder and chief executive of OpenAI discusses how ChatGPT has changed how the world sees A.I. and the prospects of artificial general intelligence — a machine that can do anything the human brain can do — in the years to come.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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A New Season of the 'DealBook Summit'02 Dec 202400:01:00

New York Times business columnist and DealBook founder Andrew Ross Sorkin brings you new interviews from this year's DealBook Summit. Featuring conversations with Sam Altman, Co-Founder and C.E.O. of OpenAI, Prince Harry, Co-Founder of The Archewell Foundation and Chief Impact Officer of BetterUp, and Serena Williams, 23-time Grand Slam Champion and Managing Partner of Serena Ventures — among other leaders shaping our world. Listen wherever you get your podcasts starting Dec 5.

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How to Reveal the Many Sides of Elon Musk: The Art of the Interview14 Dec 202300:28:40

Leaders are grappling with a critical moment, with wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, a U.S. presidential election and disruptive changes from artificial intelligence. That was the theme throughout the DealBook Summit, which featured conversations with heads of state, chief executives and others. 

Andrew Ross Sorkin of DealBook speaks with Lulu Garcia-Navarro, an audio host with The New York Times Magazine, about his takeaways from the event and how he prepares for his marathon of interviews with individuals shaping the world today.

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Jamie Dimon on Why He Thinks We Are Living in One of the Most Dangerous Times30 Nov 202300:34:14

Jamie Dimon’s leadership of JPMorgan Chase has often brought a sense of stability to roiling financial markets. But when he looks at the conflicts in Gaza, Ukraine and elsewhere, combined with inflation and rising interest rates at home, he sees ominous warning signs.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/29/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Introducing: 'DealBook Summit'27 Nov 202300:28:16

New York Times business columnist and DealBook founder Andrew Ross Sorkin brings you select interviews from last year's DealBook Summit. Features Sam Bankman-Fried, Ben Affleck, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and Benjamin Netanyahu.

For more on DealBook, please visit www.nytimes.com/dealbook.

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The 2024 Elections: What Happened and What’s Next?11 Dec 202401:32:50

A panel of political figures, advisers and journalists discuss the 2024 election and its aftermath. The discussion is moderated by Maggie Haberman, a senior political correspondent at The Times.

Participants:

  • Kellyanne Conway, campaign manager for the 2016 Trump-Pence campaign, former senior counselor to President Donald J. Trump and author
  • Anita Dunn, former senior adviser to President Biden
  • Major Garrett, chief Washington correspondent at CBS News
  • Margaret Hoover, host of “Firing Line With Margaret Hoover” on PBS
  • Alexis McGill Johnson, president of Planned Parenthood
  • Van Jones, founder of Dream Machine, CNN host and author
  • Jonathan Karl, chief Washington correspondent at ABC News
  • Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark and host of “The Focus Group” podcast
  • Kevin McCarthy, former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives
  • Jason Miller, senior adviser to Mr. Trump

The conversation was recorded at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Women, Power and Money in 2024 and Beyond11 Dec 202401:31:04

A panel of female business leaders and entrepreneurs discuss their careers. The discussion is moderated by Jodi Kantor, an investigative reporter at The Times.

Participants:

  • Thasunda Brown Duckett, president and chief executive of TIAA
  • Diane von Furstenberg, fashion designer, philanthropist and author
  • Emma Grede, co-founder and chief executive of Good American and founding partner of Skims
  • Amy Griffin, founder and managing partner of G9 Ventures
  • Donna Langley, chairwoman of NBCUniversal Entertainment and Studios
  • Lynn Martin, president of the N.Y.S.E. Group
  • Brooke Boyarsky Pratt, founder and chief executive of knownwell
  • Reshma Saujani, founder of Moms First and Girls Who Code
  • Brooke Shields, actress, model, author and entrepreneur

The conversation was recorded at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Jeff Bezos Talks Innovation, Progress and What’s Next05 Dec 202401:05:09

Jeff Bezos, the Amazon and Blue Origin founder, who also owns The Washington Post, discusses his vision for humanity’s future in space and why he’s hopeful for President-elect Donald J. Trump’s second term.

“He seems to have a lot of energy around reducing regulation.”

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Sundar Pichai on A.I., Regulation and What’s Next for Google05 Dec 202400:40:46

The chief executive of Google and its parent company Alphabet said that making progress in artificial intelligence was going to get harder in 2025 and that A.I. development was slowing down. He also discussed the landmark antitrust cases in the U.S. and his recent discussions with President-elect Trump.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Prince Harry on His Murdoch Tabloid Fight and Big Tech05 Dec 202400:36:08

The Duke of Sussex said his lawsuit against the tabloids for hacking his phone was about “accountability.” He also discussed mental health, the lack of regulations around social media and the decision to withdraw from royal duties in 2020.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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How Anti-Obesity Drugs are Redefining Pharma and Wellness with David Ricks and Fatima Cody Stanford05 Dec 202400:19:24

Two of the leading experts on anti-obesity drugs say the drugs are heralding a new era in medicine and could soon be used to treat a raft of other conditions.

David Ricks, the chair and chief executive of Eli Lilly, and Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, obesity medicine physician at Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard Medical School, talk through the groundbreaking role of GLP-1 medications in transforming the treatment of obesity, and how the drug could potentially be used to treat alcohol use disorder or other addictions.

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand05 Dec 202400:27:43

The host of the “Call Her Daddy” podcast and founder of the Unwell Network discusses her interview with Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the 2024 election, her podcast’s journey from chatting about sex advice to delving into more serious subjects and how the Unwell Network’s fan merchandise became a eight-figure business.

“I don’t care if people consider me a journalist or a podcaster, or just a girl that talks online every week.”

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Jerome Powell on the Fed’s Role in America’s Financial Future05 Dec 202400:36:29

The chair of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System sat down to discuss the state of the U.S. economy, the importance of Fed independence, and what he expects from a second Trump administration.

“Growth is definitely stronger than we thought, and inflation is coming a little higher.”

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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Should People Still Trust the Media in 2025?05 Dec 202501:32:55

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Audiences are changing the way they watch, listen and consume. We’re at an inflection point on the influence of traditional journalism and journalists versus personality-driven and perspective-driven voices.

Panelists: Charlamagne tha God, co-host of “The Breakfast Club” and co-founder of The Black Effect Podcast Network; Jon Favreau, co-founder of Crooked Media and co-host of “Pod Save America”; Amna Nawaz, co-anchor and co-managing editor of “PBS NewsHour”; David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker and host of “The New Yorker Radio Hour”; Stephanie Ruhle, host of MS NOW’s “The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle”; Andrew Schulz, host of “The Brilliant Idiots” and “Flagrant” with Akaash Singh; Ben Shapiro, co-founder of The Daily Wire and host of “The Ben Shapiro Show”

Moderator: Michael Barbaro, journalist and co-host of “The Daily” at The New York Times

Filmed live at the 2025 DealBook Summit

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Taiwan’s President Warns China Is Getting More Aggressive04 Dec 202500:13:48

President Lai Ching-te of Taiwan discusses China’s increasing military hostility toward the United States. Mr. Lai is facing pressure on many fronts, including increasing military hostility from China, fierce trade negotiations with the U.S. and tough resistance from the oppositional Nationalist Party.

A semiconductor powerhouse, Taiwan has sought to use its chip expertise as leverage in its trade negotiations. “President Trump wants the U.S. to become the world center for A.I., and we are willing to assist in this,” Mr. Lai said.

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Scott Bessent’s Tariff Evolution04 Dec 202500:38:43

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent discusses how President Trump contributed to his change in perspective on tariffs: “I’ve had an open mind, and I’ve evolved on this, and the president has been right,” he said.

Mr. Bessent also discusses the United States’ trade deal with China, inflation and Mr. Trump’s potential pick for the Federal Reserve chair.

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Larry Fink and Brian Armstrong Are Not Worried About Another Crypto Winter04 Dec 202500:34:25

Larry Fink, chief executive of BlackRock, and Brian Armstrong, chief executive of Coinbase, discuss their united and optimistic vision for the future of crypto. The two haven’t always seen eye to eye. Mr. Fink, who was once a Bitcoin skeptic, shares what made him turn positive on crypto in an interview alongside Mr. Armstrong, the chief executive of the largest crypto exchange in the United States.

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Inside This Year's Dealbook Summit01 Dec 202500:00:59

Andrew Ross Sorkin — a New York Times business columnist and the founder of DealBook — shares a new round of conversations from the 2025 Dealbook Summit. Hear from Dario Amodei, the chief executive and co-founder of Anthropic; Jimmy Donaldson, the YouTube creator and philanthropist known as MrBeast; Scott Bessent, U.S. Treasury Secretary; and Erika Kirk, the chief executive and chairwoman of the board of Turning Point USA, along with other influential figures. Listen starting Dec. 4 wherever you get your podcasts.

 

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MrBeast Isn’t Looking for Controversy04 Dec 202500:37:29

The YouTuber Jimmy Donaldson, better known as MrBeast, discusses fame, why he thinks YouTube is the best place platform for creators and how he tries to avoid controversy. Then Chief executive of Beast Industries, Jeff Housenbold, joins Mr. Donaldson to discuss how the duo work together — and why they take so few days off.

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Halle Berry’s Perimenopause Path04 Dec 202500:18:14

Halle Berry, the actor and founder of Respin, which offers menopause symptom care programs, shares a talk on aging in Hollywood and her struggle with perimenopause. Ms. Berry encourages more dialogue and support for women in midlife.

If men “had a medical condition that disrupted their sleep, brain function and sex life,” the actor said, “we’d be calling that a health crisis on par with Covid, and the whole world would shut down.”

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Anthropic Chief Executive Has A.I. Bubble ‘Concerns’04 Dec 202500:35:56

Anthropic’s chief executive Dario Amodei discusses the risks of an A.I. bubble and said that the industry’s enormous spending could backfire. He describes the “cone of uncertainty” that exists around A.I. spending as his company must manage the risk of spending either too much or too little.

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G.M.’s Chief Executive Remains Bullish on Electric Vehicles04 Dec 202500:24:17

The General Motors chief executive Mary Barra discusses why she will continue to improve the fuel-efficiency and emissions of G.M.’s cars and trucks even if federal standards are weakened.

She also discusses why the automaker is investing in E.V.s, competition and the Trump administration’s E.V. policies. “People choose an E.V. because it’s a better performance vehicle and it fits their life,” she said.

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Alex Karp Defends Palantir’s Work With ICE04 Dec 202500:44:57

In a punchy conversation, Alex Karp, chief executive of Palantir, defends his company’s work aiding the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown and rejects claims Palantir is building mass surveillance tools.

He says his support for Mr. Trump is driven by the two issues he cares most about: “immigration and restoring the deterrent capacity of America.”

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Netanyahu Is Defiant In Face Of Legal Challenges04 Dec 202500:26:15

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he would still visit New York despite a pledge by the city’s mayor-elect, Zohran Mamdani, to honor an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court on charges of war crimes.

The prime minister also discusses the corruption charges he is facing, as well as his political future. “When history is within reach, you don’t step aside, you step forward, and that is what I am doing,” said Mr. Netanyahu.

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Erika Kirk on Why She Forgave Her Husband’s Killer04 Dec 202500:40:02

Erika Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, discusses her role leading Turning Point USA, the influential nonprofit he founded. Ms. Kirk also urges more dialogue to bridge political differences. “Could you imagine if AOC and Nancy Mace said, `Let’s go get Subway?’” she asked.

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Newsom Says Trump’s Attacks Are “Not Normal Behavior”04 Dec 202500:44:11

Gov. Gavin Newsom of California, who has positioned himself as a potential Democratic presidential candidate in 2028, discusses the future of the Democratic Party, how he uses social media to hold up a mirror to Mr. Trump and why he thinks business leaders are bending the knee to the president.

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The Global Re-Order06 Dec 202501:16:50

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As we approach a full year of the Trump administration, the president has transformed the world order. Old institutions like NATO, the United Nations and the World Trade Organization are diminished, even in doubt, and the old trade regime and assumptions about alliances are gone. Relationships are transactional, and soft power is scoffed at. Traditional adversaries like Russia win praise, while there is talk about taking over Canada and Greenland. This is driven not only by those at the top but also by deep shifts to the right in electorates across the West, including in the Netherlands, Germany, Italy and elsewhere.

Liberals and liberal values alike seem to be in retreat. Uncertainties dominate: How will China, North Korea and other nations respond to this new world order, and will they see it as an opportunity for adventurism?

In this discussion, we asked: Where are we now? And what are the real-world ramifications of these policies, and are they lasting?

Panelists: Ehud Barak, Former Prime Minister of Israel; Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware and a member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations; Mark T. Esper, Former U.S. Secretary of Defense; Avril Haines, Former U.S. Director of National Intelligence; David H. Petraeus, Partner at KKR, Chairman of the KKR Global Institute, Chairman of the KKR Middle East Global Institute New York and Former Director of the C.I.A.; Samantha Power, Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations and Former Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development; Fareed Zakaria, Host of “Fareed Zakaria GPS” on CNN

Moderator: Nicholas Kristof, Opinion Columnist at The New York Times

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The Education of Higher Education07 Dec 202501:21:13

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The Trump administration’s funding threats aren’t the only issue colleges and universities are facing. There’s also rising antisemitism on campus, and challenges in managing student free speech and demonstrations. What is the future of research without government grants and funding? How will the courts adjudicate these issues? The Justice Department is also taking specific aim at multiple universities over international student visas, claims of antisemitism, anti-D.E.I. investigations, and trans athletes and Title IX policy. Americans now have $1.8 trillion in cumulative student debt. Administrative costs continue to rise. Are Americans’ value systems changing toward education, and how?

And the bigger question: What do universities’ leaders believe the education they provide is for? What and how are universities contributing to society today? Is there a crisis of faith in our educational system? Universities can be rigid systems. Are they capable of responding to valid criticisms? What do they believe needs to change, and how are they working toward those ends?

And as we examine the future of work — and A.I. in particular on the cusp of transforming the entry-level work force — what does the work force of the next generation look like, and how are universities preparing their students?

Panelists: Carmen Twillie Ambar, president of Oberlin College and Conservatory; Sian Leah Beilock, president of Dartmouth; Ron Daniels, president of Johns Hopkins University; Daniel Diermeier, chancellor of Vanderbilt University; James Harris, president of the University of San Diego; John B. King, chancellor of the State University of New York and former U.S. secretary of education; Jonathan Levin, president of Stanford University

Moderator: Jodi Kantor, investigative reporter at The New York Times

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