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Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle
Jen and Barb
Frequency: 1 episode/22d. Total Eps: 26

Welcome to Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle.
In the world of equine behaviour and training, there's a vast sea of information, research, and opinions that can sometimes make your head spin. It can be challenging to sift through it all and distinguish fact from fiction.
So, how do we navigate this?
Well, we've decided to tackle it head-on through candid, informative chats.
We dive deep into the critical topics, exploring different perspectives in an effort to reach well-informed conclusions.
Join us as we demystify the world of horses, separating myths from realities, and empowering you with knowledge to foster a deeper connection with your equine companions.
Tune in to Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle and embark on a journey of discovery with us 🐴🎙️
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What is Negative Punishment?
Season 2 · Episode 15
lundi 2 septembre 2024 • Duration 20:06
Barn Bonus 3 - What is Negative Punishment?
Welcome to our third bonus episode of "Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle"! In this special "Barn Bonus" series, we dive into key behavioural terms that are crucial for understanding equine behaviour and training.
In today's episode, we explore the concept of negative punishment. Negative punishment involves removing something desirable to decrease the likelihood of unwanted behaviours. We'll break down what it means, how it works, and why it’s an important concept in effective horse training.
Join us for a concise and informative discussion that will enhance your understanding of horse behaviour and improve your training techniques. Perfect for both new and experienced horse enthusiasts looking to deepen their knowledge.
Tune in and let’s get to the core of negative punishment in this quick yet insightful episode!
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
Debunking Dominance
Season 2 · Episode 14
lundi 26 août 2024 • Duration 01:48:08
In this episode, we explore the roots of dominance theory, beginning with Schjelderup-Ebbe’s 1922 research on domestic hens, and discuss how it has shaped our understanding of animal behaviour.
The episode also dives into the intricate dominance behaviors within and between species, from wolves and primates to birds, showcasing the complexity of their social structures. Additionally, we scrutinise the scientific evidence that challenges traditional dominance-based training methods for dogs and horses, advocating for the more humane and effective approach of positive reinforcement/learning theory.
Whether you're an animal enthusiast, a pet owner, or a behavioural science aficionado, this episode is packed with valuable information to transform your understanding of animal social structures and training techniques.
Subscribe to our podcast, leave a review, and share your thoughts with us on social media. Your feedback helps us bring more valuable content to our listeners. Join the conversation and let’s reshape the future of animal training together!
🔗 ISES position statement on the use/misuse of leadership and dominance concepts in horse training
🔗 The Ethics of Using Dominance-Based Training Within the Equine Leisure Industry
References:
- Bradshaw, J., Blackwell, E., & Casey, R. (2008). Dominance in domestic dogs: Useful construct or bad habit? Journal of Veterinary Behavior: Clinical Applications and Research, 4, 135-144.
- Westgarth, C. (2016). Why nobody will ever agree about dominance in dogs. Journal of Veterinary Behavior: Clinical Applications and Research, 11, 99-101.
- Dierendonck, M. C., Vries, H., & Schilder, M. B. (1994). An Analysis of Dominance, Its Behavioural Parameters and Possible Determinants in a Herd of Icelandic Horses in Captivity. Netherlands Journal of Zoology, 45, 362-385.
- Houpt, K. A., Law, K., & Martinisi, V. (1978). Dominance hierarchies in domestic horses. Applied Animal Ethology, 4, 273-283.
- Chase, I. D. (1982). Behavioral Sequences During Dominance Hierarchy Formation in Chickens. Science, 216, 439-440.
- Piper, W. (1997). Social Dominance in Birds.
- Drews, C. (1993). The concept and definition of dominance in animal behaviour. Behaviour, 125, 283-313.
- Mitman, G. (1990). Dominance, leadership, and aggression: Animal behavior studies during the Second World War.
- Kamath, A. (2020). Territoriality.
- Hinsch, M., & Komdeur, J. (2010). Defence, intrusion and the stability of territoriality.
- Mitani, J. C., & Rodman, P. S. (1979). Territoriality: the relation of ranging patterns and home range size to defendability, with an analysis of territoriality among primate species. Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology, 5(3), 241-251.
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
Normal, Abnormal, or Unwanted?
Season 1 · Episode 6
lundi 15 janvier 2024 • Duration 01:39:43
This episode of "Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle," we delve into the multifaceted world of equine behaviour, exploring the lines between normal, abnormal, and unwanted behaviour from a human & horse perspective. This comprehensive discussion is designed to unravel the complexities of how we perceive and interact with our equine companions.
Join us as we tackle the intriguing topic of what constitutes 'normal' behaviour in horses. What are the typical patterns and habits of these animals, and how do they vary across different environments and situations? We'll explore the natural behaviours exhibited by horses and how they adapt to the lives we share with them.
Then, we shift gears to discuss abnormal behaviours. These can range from subtle changes in temperament to more pronounced issues like stereotypies or aggression. We'll examine the causes behind these behaviours, such as stress, environment, and health issues, and how they can be identified and managed.
But what about behaviours that are not necessarily abnormal yet are considered unwanted from a human perspective? This part of the episode focuses on the challenges faced by horse owners and handlers in managing behaviours that may be natural for horses but problematic in human care settings. We'll discuss training approaches, management strategies, and the importance of understanding equine psychology to create a harmonious relationship between horses and humans.
Whether you're a seasoned equestrian or simply love horses, this episode will enhance your understanding and appreciation of the complex nature of equine behaviour.
Enrichemnt Video, private link just for podcast listeners - https://youtu.be/mdXzJkTV40I
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
Christmas Special: We trained Santas Reindeer! 🎅 🦌🎄
Season 1 · Episode 5
lundi 18 décembre 2023 • Duration 01:01:06
Hoof your way into the festive spirit with a jingle-bell jolly episode of "Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle"! In this Christmas cracker of a special, Barbara and Jen unwrap a truly magical case study: a behavioural modification journey of one of Santa’s very own reindeer.
Ever wondered what goes on behind the scenes at the North Pole? Join us as we dive into the enchanting world of Santa’s sleigh team. We'll explore the challenges and triumphs of working with these extraordinary creatures, known for their high-flying antics and yuletide charm.
In this episode, we share the tale of a particular reindeer who needed a little extra help to fit into the harness of holiday expectations. Was it Dasher’s dashiness, Prancer’s prance, or perhaps Vixen’s vixen-like attitude? You’ll have to tune in to find out! We’ll discuss the behavioural strategies used, the importance of understanding reindeer psychology, and how even the most magical of creatures can benefit from a bit of expert guidance.
So, grab a mince pie, cosy up by the fire, and join us for a festive frolic through the snow-dusted fields of reindeer rehabilitation. This episode is sure to leave you feeling more merry and bright, and you might just learn a thing or two about what it takes to be part of the most famous animal team in history!
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
'This Barn believes that a horse without a Job is a wasted horse'
Season 1 · Episode 4
lundi 4 décembre 2023 • Duration 59:31
Welcome to a special debate club edition of "Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle," the podcast where equine enthusiasts gallop through the world of horses! In this thought-provoking episode, we transform 'this house' into 'this barn' for a spirited debate on a contentious topic: 'This Barn believes that a horse without a Job is a wasted horse.'
With our bridles set aside, we delve into an animated discussion, each of us taking a stance regardless of our personal opinions. The debate promises to be a lively canter through various perspectives on equine employment and welfare. Is a horse's value intrinsically tied to its work? Or do these majestic creatures offer more beyond their traditional roles in our lives?
We’ll explore historical and modern viewpoints, hear expert opinions, and consider the emotional and psychological aspects of equine life. Whether you’re a seasoned equestrian or simply a horse lover at heart, this episode is sure to stirrup your thoughts and may even challenge some long-held beliefs.
Saddle up for a ride through compelling arguments, insightful discussions, and perhaps, a gallop towards understanding the true essence of equine existence. Remember, in this barn, every opinion counts, but only one can trot away as the winner. Join us as we debate: Is a horse without a job truly a wasted horse?
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
What is Learning Theory?
Season 1 · Episode 3
lundi 20 novembre 2023 • Duration 54:06
In this episode of "Dangerous at Both Ends and Tricky in the Middle," we address a common question in the world of equine behaviour: What is learning theory?
Join hosts Barbara Hardman and Jen Nash as we delve into the subtleties of this topic, debunk myths, and offer insights on how to attain your objectives and foster contented horses.
Uncover the realities behind this fascinating question and develop a profound comprehension of equine behaviour.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
How Can I Set My Horse Up for Success?
Season 1 · Episode 2
lundi 6 novembre 2023 • Duration 58:24
In this episode of "Dangerous at Both Ends and Tricky in the Middle," we address a common question in the world of equine behaviour: how can I set my horse up for success?
Join hosts Barbara Hardman and Jen Nash as we delve into the subtleties of this topic, debunk myths, and offer insights on how to attain your objectives and foster contented horses.
Uncover the realities behind this fascinating question and develop a profound comprehension of equine behaviour.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
The Pilot - Does Positive Reinforcement Lead to Biting Horses?
Season 1 · Episode 1
lundi 23 octobre 2023 • Duration 01:09:53
In this episode of "Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle," we tackle a common question in the world of equine behaviour: Does positive reinforcement training create biting horses?
Join hosts Barbara Hardman and Jen Nash as we explore the nuances of this topic, dispel myths, and provide insights into the use of positive reinforcement in horse training.
Discover the truth behind this intriguing question and gain a deeper understanding of equine behaviour.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
What is Positive Reinforcement?
Season 2 · Episode 13
lundi 19 août 2024 • Duration 25:18
Barn Bonus 2 - What is Positive Reinforcement?
Welcome to our second bonus episode of "Dangerous at Both Ends, Tricky in the Middle"! In this special "Barn Bonus" series, we dive into key behavioural terms that are crucial for understanding equine behaviour and training.
In today's episode, we explore the concept of positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement is a powerful tool in behavioural psychology and horse training that encourages desired behaviours by offering rewards. We'll explain what it is, how it works, and why it’s an effective technique for training your horse.
Join us for a concise and informative discussion that will enhance your understanding of horse behaviour and improve your training techniques. Perfect for both new and experienced horse enthusiasts looking to deepen their knowledge.
Tune in and let’s uncover the benefits of positive reinforcement in this quick yet insightful episode!
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
Building Positive Habits for You and Your Horse
Season 2 · Episode 12
lundi 12 août 2024 • Duration 01:20:25
Feeling like you’re failing with your horse’s training? You’re not alone, and we’re here to help.
We explore the science behind habits, discuss the importance of consistent routines for both horses and their owners, and provide practical tips to overcome common barriers to habit formation. With insights from key research and real-life success stories, we'll guide you through setting realistic goals, tracking progress, and staying motivated.
Plus, we answer listener questions about training routines, improving behaviour, and maintaining positive habits. (Email 📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie or 📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk with your questions)
Join us as we navigate the challenges of training and help you and your horse build a foundation of positive habits for lasting success.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out to Barbara and Jen at the links below. We'd love to hear from you!
Research Papers Discussed:
- Lally, P., van Jaarsveld, C. H., Potts, H. W., & Wardle, J. (2010). How are habits formed: Modelling habit formation in the real world. European Journal of Social Psychology, 40(6), 998-1009.
- Lally, P., van Jaarsveld, C. H., Potts, H. W., & Wardle, J. (2011). How habits are formed: The concept of automaticity in behavior. European Journal of Social Psychology, 41(10), 101-108.
- Lally, P., van Jaarsveld, C. H., Potts, H. W., & Wardle, J. (2011). How habits are formed: The role of environmental and contextual factors. European Journal of Social Psychology, 41(12), 120-128.
- Gardner, B., & Rebar, A. L. (2019). Habit formation and behavior change. Current Opinion in Behavioral Sciences, 26, 15-20.
- Jog, M. S., Kubota, Y., Connolly, C. I., Hillegaart, V., & Graybiel, A. M. (1999). Building neural representations of habits. Science, 286(5445), 1745-1749.
- Judah, G., Gardner, B., & Aunger, R. (2013). Forming a flossing habit: An exploratory study of the psychological determinants of habit formation. British Journal of Health Psychology, 18(2), 338-353.
- Walesh, K. (2007). Teaching Old Dogs New Tricks. Journal of Adult Learning, 8(2), 123-134
- McMullan, M., Endacott, R., Gray, M. A., Jasper, M., Miller, C., Scholes, J., & Webb, C. (2019). Teaching old dogs new tricks: Challenges of faculty development in simulation. Simulation in Healthcare, 14(3), 211-217.
- Garborg, K., & Bretthauer, M. (2012). Can Old Dogs Learn New Tricks? Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science, 15(1), 36-44.
- Pawlina, W., & Drake, R. L. (2015). Old dogs, new tricks: Ultrasound imaging in anatomy laboratories. Anatomical Sciences Education, 8(5), 453-460.
- Greenberg, D. L., Grünbaum, A., & Winslow, R. (2018). “Old Dogs” Can Learn Ultrasound. The Journal of Clinical Ultrasound, 46(8), 503-508.
- Francis, T., & Job, V. (2018). Lay theories of willpower. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 75, 210-220.
- Jeffrey, R. W., & Christensen, A. J. (1975). Behavior therapy versus "will power" in the management of obesity. Behavior Therapy, 6(3), 409-420.
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- Ainslie, G. (2020). Willpower with and without e
Meet Your Hosts
Barbara Hardman (Bright Horse Equiation)
www.brighthorse.ie
📧barbara.j.hardman@brighthorse.ie ☎️+353 85 143 8688
Jen Nash (The Equine Method)
www.theequinemethod.co.uk
📧 Info@TheEquineMethod.co.uk ☎️+44 7902920923
