Explore every episode of the podcast Curious Creatures

Intense but Brief!    Lisa Gerrard followed by Liz Fraser  Peter in Heaven with the Cocteau Twins  Artwork for Goth and 4AD - Football is The Key  Surely not - Australian rules football of course! Wheeltappers and Shunters Clubs! 3 gigs a night and it all paid off Budgie’s clubland experience leads the way The Essence of Punk was to throw away the rule book It was Rough Down Under & Lisa played Solo! Championing The Underdog! From Street fights to The Stage – Loyalty was demanded Peter was The Rock on which The Dead could Dance safely More Baptisms of Fire and Keeping the Money Tight Born to Drum or Drumming to be Born? The Beat Must Go On! Creating the Dance - We are The Disco Beat Clay Pots with Skin Heads – Got a Young Peter Hooked Lisa’s Percussion made Peter Heavier on The Drums 4AD had a Dead Drum Room – Wolfgang Press with Tom Jones. It’s Not Unusual to be Loved! Hairy Chested Medallion Man – Made us Determined to Change the World Conversations Never Heard – find Their Voice in the Present The Fallacy of Memory – Reveals the Duality of Events We are all of us Characters in Everyone’s stories! Back On The Bus Y’All – We’re Gearing up for The Road! ___ Respect: Wolfgang Preiss (27 February 1910 – 27 November 2002) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Carpets and Bass Drums!    Strokes of Luck that Changed our Lives The Cure became Judges with a bunch of Fives We all took numbers, and we all took a Name  They were all unreadable when the next day Came  The Journey is The Thing! Does anyone know the Way? There’s got to be a way Fake it to Make it, then Lock it away The Highs and Lows that made it Work Difficult relationships created the Quirk!  The Bells are Ringing for me and My Pal! A Constant Support from the Chaos Outside The Rarity of Security was Peter’s Reality Thirty years of always being taken on a Ride  Had Lol and Budgie seeking a safe place to hide  Booking The Cooks!  What the world don’t know, won’t hurt ‘em They were TOO Good Looking for OUR own Good Cheek bones to Die for, and Handsome on the inside Dead Can Dance - Cooler than Frankenstein’s Bride! ___ Respect: Elsa Sullivan Lanchester (28 October 1902 – 26 December 1986) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

‘Fanfares and Tears’ Pan as Magician of Inspiration Brings Joy and Melancholy by Transmogrification Pan gets Deeper then Deeper than Deep! ‘Digging in the Dirt - to find the Places we got Hurt’  ‘Prepare for the Big Reveal’ In front of the TV Going through Puberty Fluorescent Erotica as Manhood dawns Between the Adult and the Child Lies the Hissing of Summer Lawns ‘Sanctuary of the WC?’ Up the Ladder to the Roof Where Pan can hear Heaven much better Spontaneous Social Interactions The Things that Dreams are made of Like Pooing on Summer Lawns ‘Iggy Pop - Pulling Punches - Changing Heads’ Blurring Modern and Old - Carrying the Torch Lightnin’ Hopkins played the Blues out on the old Church Porch Worship at the Shrine of Saint John Coltrane Iggy saves Pan from Eviction and pain  ‘Where’s Iggy Pop – He’s Behind You!’ ‘The Idiot’ squeals like a Liverpool Bus Everything Must Change when we get too Close It’s a Hustler’s mentality – A Taiko player’s Wet dream  The Zen of Hitting and Swing – Pan lost his heart to a piano playing sunbeam! ‘Improvisation – Riffin’ on the Rhyme’ Don’t put Sugar on Shit – Pass the Pastis mon Petit The Hobbits’ Vibe of Dining out – We love The French, the way they Pout The American Entitlement – Wearing Shorts to Dinner It’s Lol and Pan’s Enlightenment – Everyone’s a Winner! ___ Respect: Samuel ‘Lightnin’ Hopkins (March 15, 1912 – January 30, 1982) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which Budgie and Lol discover they were a little scared of normal. We knew what we didn’t want to sound like, but loved the Ramones/the Clash/Bowie/Buzzcocks and T-Rex. Music was the future there were no niceties for us. A cup of tea and potato for two was it! Punk put different people in the spotlight, something was happening. Then the fairytale evaporated and they had to find out who they were.  You have to be destroyed in the fire to come out anew.  Budgie and Lol ricocheted around the world. The prodigal sons of post punk come home. CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which Budgie and Lol reveal it all started at the fairgrounds of England. Like a Stephen King novel? The teddy boys, rockers and… girls! Pink Floyd played our bowling alley! Post war England was grim and our true education was punk. Out of the depression we escaped through music. Even the Partridge family! Budgie learns stagecraft in his secret life. Lol stays up all night at Robert's. Desperation and osmosis drove us on. To where? Hear the answer in Part 2 next week!  Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In which Budgie goes to the Florida keys with the Banshees and Sioux only has a flashlight for her light show!  Sometimes the best shows are when nobody is there. Lol was scared in Denver on Halloween by Fred Munster! A misty lake in Finland never gets dark for Lol and the Cure.  Budgie feels the heat with Love and Rockets in Arizona . It's Hot, hot, hot with Lol in Texas. Those British boys abroad! From hysteria in Newcastle to perfect calm in Tokyo. Lol, and Budgie have seen it all. Gangplanks and Freud. Beatlemania and Secret security. Bring all your fans along on the Bullet train!   CONNECT WITH USCurious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Budgie and Lol hear about Tim's first memory of Little Jimmy Osmond at 6 years old and then Buzzcocks in 1978 at ten years old. He got let in the back door of clubs went on stage in the late 80's doing his thing and nobody has told him to get off yet. The sun came out in Manchester and everyone started dancing! Tim ended up In Los Angeles as part of his childhood fantasy. We discuss destruction-touring and making records. On  Head on the Door Lol nearly set the studio alight with model racing cars. Out of chaos Budgie makes Dear Prudence. Tim lived as the Rolling Stones making Exile on Main Street. Tim gets a editor and writes a great memoir and carried on writing. Tim gets Budgie to agree to let him use his tweets to help people affected by Covid. We tell Tim he's saved music. Good man. Later on they reveal that punk produced quite a few characters as it was such a time of social change. That's why we remember them. And if Budgie doesn't know them Lol does!   For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and Tim in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646Tim Burgess:Facebook: @timburgessmusic, @thecharlatansTwitter: @Tim_Burgess, @LlSTENlNG_PARTYInstagram: @thecharlatans, @ogenesisrecords Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Roped into a cult at birth. Weddings ( and funerals) were an early source of income for Lol. The Latin mass was mysterious to us ! At the advent of the folk mass, our faith lapsed but the guilt remains, however. Confession is not necessarily good for the soul if you can be revealed! Lols is not a fan of organized religion. At 14 it all changed. Budgie was powered away for decades until at 38 he finally got a handle on his own feelings. Budgie surmised it's a very strange theatrical show they run at the church. But something in the past has helped the present. Kicking against the restrictions. Running away to join the circus. Anti-establishment by virtue of what we experienced as children. We are the stiff upper lip of the post-war British combined with the fire and brimstone of the straight jacket of religion made punk inevitable.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Connect With Us: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie:Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Terri Nunn (Berlin) joins Lol and Budgie this week on Curious Creatures. Lol and Budgie discover that the journey is half the battle. The three discuss whether or not musicians have social issues, and if music is the bridge (apparently it’s good for your heart). Lol, Budgie and Terri wonder if the magic of music lasts forever. Do kids listen to and draw their own inspiration from their parents’ music now? Terri talks about having the opportunity to go back and reassure her younger self that it’s all going to be ok. Later on Lol and Budgie get into drum machines and decide they are ok - AND they’re not afraid of them! For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and Terri in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/Socials:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646Berlin:Facebook: @berlinofficialbandTwitter: @realterrinunnInstagram: @berlinofficialband  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1970s why Punk just had to be! Everything was flared! I ain't no square with my corkscrew hair Trex Bryan Ferry and Jelly sandals! #1 and #2 Crop. Two partings, Find yer gang!  Lol reveals he might have bought the bondage strides Pete Burns actually had a pair of Bondage strides and Paul Rutherford was very jealous.  Homemade buttons (badges) Clash jacket made Lol get some slogan on his clothes.  Budgie and Lol loved the Holey MOHAIR JUMPERS.  YES YES YES! Cold little Punkies!  Lol thinks Creepers rule and Budgie lived in his DMs too. Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol and Budgie are joined by Michael Dempsey, the third founding member of The Cure. Lol and Budgie discover that Michael really dug Lol’s hairdo. They find out they were both misfits of no fixed abode in a progressive In-a-Gadda da-Vida” where “Electric Warriors” congregated against the miasma of Apathy. Michael notes that not being able to play is a singular benefit. They had chips and beer, and watched the Banshees from the wings which is where they learned their stagecraft. Budgie talks about his love for the Cure’s Strange screens on stage during Carnage Visors and Faith (meet the Pink floyd of the new wave) For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and Michael in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Socials: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) is back to chat with Lol and Budgie for the second time. Lol and Budgie discover that James really digs crazy music. They talk about the Road to Damascus leading to the Fountain of Eternal Youth, along with creating and why mistakes matter! Later Lol and Budgie discover drumming on chunks of metal, a love of staircases, and composing on steering wheels waiting for the lights to change.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and James in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/Socials:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646James Murphy:Facebook: @lcdsoundsystem Twitter: @lcdsoundsystem Instagram: @lcdsoundsystem Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

James Murphy (LCD Soundsystem) joins Lol and Budgie on this episode of Curious Creatures. Budgie and Lol discover that James knows all about the English Doom. They discuss the Power of newness. Limitations are good now, everyone thinks they’re cool. James says he loves Lol and Budgie (and they love him back). Later Lol and Budgie discover leather pants.For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and James in this week’s episode, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/Socials:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646James Murphy:Facebook: @lcdsoundsystem Twitter: @lcdsoundsystem Instagram: @lcdsoundsystem Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brutality!   Everything fitting as we’re thrashing about Looking for Clues as we Twist and Shout California dreaming no Communication Breakdown  Lol knocks a beat out and we go Downtown!  Religion! 20 seconds Over Babaluma It’s Metal Machine Madness  Who’s in the Big box? Drums and Love are All around And a Dancebeat! Is Bigger better or is Better Bigger?  Jack the Knife is the One and Only Clean or Dry we venture into Geeksville Thought train set in Motion - Don’t miss the Ferry! A Chicory Tipper!  Is this the Last Train to Clarksville? Or Wooley Edge after a late-night show Respect and Trust is the New Order of the day Conception is instrumental to our Train of Thought Or a Day Tripper! A Big empty space that’s Big in the middle Music is Everything in the Hole in the Donut  It’s as much about what isn’t as it is about what is Ai glides our Love Train to the beautiful station Winifred Atwell and The Poor People of Paris! Shadows of Angels to drift off to sleep with Where was the vocal, in Mr Bloe and Mouldy Old Dough? Moog meets Wasp as The Edge channels that Chord! Come on Paul give us a Break – It’s all icing on the cake  with a Wild Cherry on the top! ___ Respect: Shane MacGowan (25 December 1957 – 30 November 2023) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Curious Creatures is hosted by Lol Tolhurst and Budgie. Lol is the co-founder of The Cure and Budgie was the drummer for Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Slits, Big in Japan, and co-founder of The Creatures. The duo have over 100 years of combined experience to draw upon since their beginnings as punk pioneers.  In each episode of Curious Creatures, Lol and Budgie explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. They welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions - “curious questions” - will be answered at the end of each episode.  For more info about topics discussed by Lol, Budgie and their guests, visit us online at https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com/ Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dream (a Little Dream of Tea!)    Shopping Mall testimonials, but.. Lol just wants to buy a shirt! Recognition comes when you least expect it Budgie’ll name that song in Three!!! Fame (What you Need You Have to Borrow!) On the Way Up or On the Way Down? How is that Old Band of Yours? My Grandad Loves you guys Fred Incognito in Las Vegas Liverpool (She's so Swishy in her Satin and Tat!) Fred hears the Gossip direct from the Birdie’s beak The Bird had heard Not much had Changed Form a Band and Prepare for the Bitching OMG OMD we knew they were good – so it was War! Our Friends Electric? (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?)  The Human League of Gentlemen All the Young Dudes – the Crooners from Sheffield The Cure members number a Baker’s Dozen The Age of Aquarius spawned all the Cure drummers Where did it All Begin? (Again and again and again and again..) Transported back in Time with Fred as a Rabbit What’s in Fred’s Closet? - Comedic Drummer or Musical Comedian? We have the most gear, we sit at the back, but we have no mic! We is Getting Geeky, we reveal all the drummer’s Nightmares And All the Fun! Cue the Click…… and Ignore it! All Will be Revealed (the Meaning of H.O.G. and Possibly Life!) Cut to Fred’s Competition Time:  Drum Intros… Can You Beat our Times? Where have all Lol’s Cymbals Gone? Fred laments his old Synth drums Keep it Strictly Limited! – See Y’all on the Road! _____ Respect: George ‘Kool & The Gang’ Brown (15 January 1949 - 16 November 2023) _____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Boys to Entertain You! TV Pirates at Midnight!    Fred was Envious of High-Class English chocolate Time for the Test card and a little light Music Rattle Your Jewellery at The London Palladium  The Only house on the block with Colour TV First Drum Kits! Where did we hide them? Budgie’s patent Caterpillar dampening system Lol’s kit Hidden in Robert’s house Made with Rubber? from Lol’s Lab job. First Influences! Fred hears the Magical Mystery Tour in Rio! Budgie hears the Magical Mystery Tour in Stereo Lol has Overload hearing ‘Axis: Bold as Love’ From The Bay City Rollers to The Ramones Get Down and Boogie!  Whose kit did we Wanna Steal? The Damned’s, The Buzzcocks’, or Blondie’s? Aw C’mon, Punk had only One bass drum! Lol’s Mum Knits his first punk sweater  Where did it All Begin? Fred worshipped at the Altar of the Beat Lol picked up a Snare for song Fred pictures Lol as a little boy We all were envious of The Drummer ____ Respect: Charlie Watts (2 June 1941 – 24 August 2021)  ____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bands, commitments, and brilliant haircuts  Thurston Moore and Romantic Fantasy Driving and dreaming of being a band  Or a solo career on the Canyon Grand    The Cure climbed out over Niagara Falls. The Banshees below in yellow Sou’westers  Happy memories for the Xmas cards  Covered in spray when both stopped to Play   ‘One could have it all!’ says Budgie, solo in San Tropez Alone but not lonely, beneath a Mediterranean moon  Reaching out for a connection and kindred spirits  With an ET stare into the cosmos of music    Mary trained as a Classical harpist  Learning to improvise in Thurston Moore's band  Dismissing the voice that says, ‘No that’s wrong!’ Being Vulnerable – is that what they demand?   Everything recreated as recorded  Mary's Goodbye to Hotel Arkarda If Nothing will ever be the same again  How do you know when to end each piece?   Lol synthesised on Arrivederci.  Improvisations on New Year's Eve Mary is a sensitive sentimental person  Full of appreciation of people in their power  We thank you Mary for bringing your magic to our album. And then Viola barks – woof!    ___ Respect: Marie Antoinette (2 November 1755 – 16 October 1793) ____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brutalism!  Expression, impressions and Thrashing About Body and Rhythms - finding the Space Favourite guitarists are all really Bad Everything sounding off-kilter and never in Place  Joy as an Act of Resistance!  Impact and choosing the Moment Being Quiet to being Profound Convergence from Differing Influences Drums are Preferred All round Ultra Mono! Marc can be Chaotic and Indefinite!  On Foundations of Solid Bass and Drum But where is the ONE! When you Need it?  Turning Left when it’s Comfortably Numb Crawler!  They’re running Around and Grabbing things! Loved living in London but Belfast has Changed The Shine of Electronica, Goths, and Hipsters The Converging Circle of Anonymity Tangk! We’re a Gang and we’re Horrible to each Other We’re Ruthless and unpleasant but we don’t let it linger We pushed ourselves to the limits of Divergence and Endurance Respect and Acknowledgement – to be Polar Opposites 2nd Only to Ozzy Osborne! Luxury when touring - on a Stage too Small for Comfort The Friction and the Tension for Creative Sparks Kneepads and Creaking Joints - Marc would love to Miss the Band To be Busy doing Nothing - But He Never does have the Time! ___ Respect: Gabriel ‘Mabi’ Thobejane (1947 – June 3, 2021)  ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Uh Oh – Here We Go!   Writing a song usually takes So Long Jacknife had a melody and the music was strong Arrow had ideas for words on her Phone She Dived in Fearless and Created The Zone Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Cherry Bomb! Arrow started out as A Drummer  And knew the Drummer’s Importance  Lol could have sung like Joe Strummer But Arrow’s Passion was Performance  Arrow and The Ants! Planning the Stage and the Things that need Care California was lost in a Shoe-gaze Stare Starcrawler first played in a Pizza bar cellar  From local group heroes to Rough Trade Stellar! The Lost Art of The Video!  Though MTV’s Been Gone and Done  Arrow arrived fully dressed to Stun  Arrow maintains the Video’s Importance She Combined Two dresses to wear as Ordnance! Hey Down! - Ho Down! Modern Music is Voice and Beat Drums and Voice are so Complete Songs that Sound Happy with a Dark Undertow Drawing People in Then Letting them GO! Touring or Recording! Arrow still gets Nervous, but The Stage is her Domain  Live in The Studio just isn’t the Same The Whispering Vocal the Eardrums it Tickles Reality TV when done Eating Pickles?  ____ Respect: Muhammad Ali (Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. January 17, 1942 – June 3, 2016)  ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

25 years after the event he would be free. On his porch in Portland, Oregon Destroying the wood. Looking legit in the jail jumpsuit  Banging cans and smashing cars up  In the rage room    Remodeled his kitchen with a bowling ball  A disaster    Issac was as excited about singing on our record as were we having him on the record  Steve Severin's dance the Mussolini house party  Syncopate stuff  Budgie born to beat box  Our fav line is "it's eleven not noon, checkout is soon" No check in until 4pm? Issac's tour manager can get him in straight away    Or as a tour manager you get the Presidential Suite  Show in London or California; the Integratron or the London Dungeon  Sound bath in the desert  Brain takes its marching orders from Gamma and delta and frequencies.  The gamma needs to be louder to cure your Brain  it's cleaning your brain up!    Vinyl flow and Jacknife and Isaac get on well We had. Slogan “ Nothing to be done “ “everything will be done “ Exciting to have two drummers drumming    Shel Silverstien  Books and poems on boogers and he wrote boy named sue  Weird dude Budgie had the mad comics    Lol discovered America from Mad and DC comics  We went out and ate a Twinkies  Robert still has one 40 years later  Mostly a mineral?   We are planning on carrying on working together with Issac - Budgie in the orgasmatron or maybe next door in the Integratron  _____  CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of us changed - One stayed the same Let’s start at the very beginning The Spirit and Magic of it A Simple process - A Breakdown of Sorts Boom Boom Boom Boom Time after time after time after time  Composite born of Scribbles and Noise Three Ideas with Strange Titles Begat Three lyrics and Melodies Lol’s Impersonation of a Small dog My nervous system collapsing like buildings Bobby asked, ‘Have you got any Lyrics?’ We said, ‘Surprise us!’ Dipping in During Lock-Down Using Lyrics as Drummers Directions    Love was diseased right from the start   Hit me like Adventures too Close to Home Bobby speaking for every man and every woman Internal Collapse and Total Disintegration  Changing, Running Away, Lusting for Life. ___ Respect: Andrew James Weatherall (6 April 1963 – 17 February 2020) ___ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Affairs of The Heart - an American Thing!    Shifting perspectives, but Who Are We? When Confronted with the Evidence, What Is Reality? Everyone was there Except, the one Telling the Story! Every Picture tells a Story – but is it TRUE? How Do We keep Sane? Uphill both ways and lots of Old Man Sheet! We’re Still on the Road – Who’s making The Coffee? Grumpy Old Men? – No, we’re Coming Home!  Disinfectant in the Morning – Not for the Faint Hearted! How Do We keep Healthy? The things you Find on Tour – and the Things you Don’t It’s 3rd Time Lucky to Discover All the Good Stuff Everyone’s Your Friend on Tour – Even the Ones who Aren’t Lydia Lunch & Marcy B Drive Lol down Sunset for Vitamin C Looking for Answers!  The bar behind the Stage - Was it at The Fenix? Fisherman’s Wharf or Pikes Place Market? Home of The Slugs and The Edgewater Inn? San Francisco 1995 and Courtney Blows up Lolapolooza! Information Overload - Upchuck! Wow did we play it So Fast? Why do we play it So Slow! Can we Find an Easier way to Do that? Orange sparkle Gretsch – Brass shells and 26” bass drums? We come full circle – we’re back to Drums – All Drummers are Friends!! ___ Respect: D. H. Peligro - (July 9, 1959 – October 28, 2022) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Exploding Suburban Myths Feminism, Formica and Friends  Watch the curtains twitch for a brand-new switch Another music from a different day-glo kitchen Myriad, misogynistic, moustachioed men GermFree Adolescents!  Poly’s lyrics reach out across time  Don’t touch me please I can’t take the wants and needs! Poly sings Love songs and laments for the voiceless ones New Yorks a-Go-go! A formative experience for Poly and the boys Two gigs a night made a mind changing noise X-Ray Spex were the first punks to play the USA CBGBs crowd a million times ruder than Erics in their day   Exhaustion and Tears in The Whiskey a-Go-go! It wasn’t that Poly had to catch up with the World ‘Twas the World had to catch up with Poly. Big Paul’s drumming was Big and complete Poly often sang acapella to the beat High Energy Rock & Roll! Poly also sang each instrument’s part And produced the Music and created the Art 50’s Do-Wop n’ Blues had an influential hand In Poly’s creative use of the band Poly’s Passions! Punk’s DIY Ethic was a necessary tool Finance was fickle and Poly was no fool Necessity was always the Mother of Invention Poly’s Grandmother Understood! She was never going to be a doctor - but if she’d wanted to she could She was Always going to be a creator - and so often misunderstood ___ Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011)  ___ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Day The World Turned Day-Glo  Celeste made a Film about her Mum Poly Styrene Six years in the Making ‘Twas A Labour of Love Clearing Permissions like Pulling Hen’s Teeth We Share the Frustration, the Push and the Shove GermFree Adolescents!  Poly Adored Señor Salvador Dali His Port Lligat studio a Pilgrimage Place Young Lol’s French Girlfriend paraded her cat  A cat on a lead with a smile on it’s face I Am a Cliché! Valuable Time Made a Difference  Personal Real and True  Honest and Believable Felt Real to Lol Honesty Helped Celeste find Her Way    Age! Poly, Lol and Budgie – 1950’s Varieties Hold valuable insight of Era and Times  Of Austere 70’s and all Notorieties Goths on The Tube and Tory Crimes  Identity! Courting Controversy and Cancel Culture An Early Adopter of Media and Tech  Poly’s X-Ray Spex gave the Pop world a Rupture X-Ray Spex caused a Pain in the Neck I Am a Poseur! The DIY Spirit of Punk for Celeste  Independent Rebellious Thinking  To a Conformist Era nothing more than a Pest Punk Self Expression was Sinking  Oh Bondage Up Yours! British Journalism made Personal Attacks Made Her Life a Difficult Role It wasn’t Cool to be Polite to the Hacks  Poly was a Sensitive Soul  ___ Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011)  ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who’s That Girl? Concentric Circles and Avoiding Repetition When The World Shutdown  The Questioning Began Bethany had a Life Changing Awakening On-Screen-Only Relationships! Ice-Cold Bitch and Her July Jacket Bethany has some Secret Tea to Spill! Be Whatever You Want to Be! What’s Through Your Keyhole?   Balancing Real Relationships!  Space, Space, Space, and More Space! Professional Relationships – The Little Things become Mountains How Often do You Change your Socks? We Are Family – a Mental Family! Re-Inventing the Wheel! Exciting to Rethink the Live Experience Arpeggios and Jingle Jangle The Big Scream is The Point  Bethany Thinks on her Toes! What’s On Your Mind? Talking to The Fearful Voice Letting Go of The Extremes Nothing to be Done and Everything will be Done It’s All so Simple – Just Let Go! And The Sound of Wedding Bells!! ___ Respect: Donald Buchla (April 17, 1937 – September 14, 2016) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How Much do you Do in Your car? Bethany lives in Her car - Bethany Loves LA! Lol loves LA too – LA has always looked after him Budgie thinks LA must love him too LA Keeps Calling him Back! Rent-A-Wreck! Budgie rents his first car in LA! Pick ‘n Mix of Environments Lol wants a Bolt Hole in the Desert  Music was In the Stars for Bethany as a Young Punk!   Bob The Dude Around Town!  Catching up with The Thing! Gathering The Best Coast Buzz Digging Down beneath the Dark Underbelly of LA Among The Ghosts of Creative Legacies Becoming The Band until we Disappear! Bethany and All the External Noise Reclaiming Bethany – Bringing back, ‘Shame on You!’ Scary to Put Yourself Out There! 99% is positive - 1% negative is a killer! The Vulnerable Desires!  Bethany lets her old Character Go Bethany Creates a Cocoon to Create Anticipation and Expectation?  Bethany is Doing it For Herself! ___ Respect: Jim Morrison (December 8, 1943 – July 3, 1971) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can AI make a Hit Record? Drummers talk about anything but Drumming Two of the Singers on Los Angeles are Drummers All we got to do is Act Naturally Things the Industry didn’t Understand Will new Technology Change Music Appreciation?  More Means More! We love and Embrace Computers We love and Embrace Individuality We love and Embrace Cohesive Collaboration  Now Cue the Music!   Good Food and A Donut!  Jacknife describes his Daily Process  Everybody’s a Drummer – The International Conversation What’s Going On with Shoes and Feet?! Is my One the same as Your One? Robert Dresses Below the Waist Do we ever look at the Back of our Head? Who do you trust to Dress You? Jacknife Never looks at Himself We must Think in 3D! We Got to Move!  Isaac Brock sings at 7mph Jacknife Runs along in Time  Lol spins for more than 30 minutes Budgie cycles the whole of Berlin (almost!) All because we Listen to Los Angeles!! ___ Respect: William MacArthur ‘Billy’ Mackenzie (27 March 1957 – 22 January 1997)  ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes  Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums (We’re off to a Good Start!) Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want! The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal! Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand  The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist On 17 Seconds they swapped instruments - No set formula  Discussion is healthy but Discussion takes time!   Vocalists are Tricky!  Musicians as Tightrope walkers – Without Safety nets  Risks can be Creative but not for Careers! Good bands fight to Discover – Take something small and Enlarge! Robert Smith focussed everyone by saying, ‘this will be the Last Time.’ Fragility / Self-hatred / Being weird  Pornography almost killed The Cure but reanimated them. Club Smith or Club Tolhurst, had Simon Gallup singing Kate Bush Doing It Like the First Time!  Our New album - Fresh and Exciting! Guest vocalists working Outside comfort Zones Bobby Gillespie and James Murphy at Home - Arrow in Topanga  New bands are mostly missing the drummer’s personality (We’re off to a Good End!) ___ Respect: Jane Birkin (December 1946 – July 2023) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jacknife never remembers the big moments.  Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out! Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd! Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner  Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME! Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone  Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour  Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru. Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert Murdoch Robert impersonated Lol and Lol did a great Robert  Everyone close to Robert, became Robert! Q. Affectation or affection for Siouxsie in the Banshees? A.???? Young Bob reinvented Regal zone on ‘So It Goes’ Bon mots take hold on the road  An unusual dynamic - being together all the time  Understanding people and personalities  Us against the world – All for One and One for All! Parts of the world Lol liked and the Jilted teenage girlfriend As you get older, you better understand your ego  Getting over the caricatures - writing the story  making peace with life - preventing strange characters taking over  Q. The Real Stroke of Genius? – A. Begin Today with a Clean Slate!  The Job of the Musician is to Discover – Anon.   ___ Respect: Sinéad O’Connor (December 1966 – July 2023) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let me in - I’m in the band!  It goes like this:  Lol - Newcastle Holiday Inn – Sauna – Towel – Door – Fire Escape – Reception – Room-Key!  Wayne - Bristol - Liverpool - Leeds – London – California – Brazil – Love - 20 Years!  Lol – California – Home - 30 Years Ago - Home is Where the Ticker Tocks . The Circus was Excitement when we Moved from where we Started  In a band it’s simpler to do what we do and Live anywhere   Alan Vega a lonely man and a stranger in a strange land  Budgie ran a Berlin Red Light and received a Berlin mouthful Lol feels more American than Americans  Lean American knowledge – makes Lol a man without a history or memory  Quiet riot and Slade’s Unique spelling  Lol saw Ringo Starr play in LA.  Edgar Winter looks how Lol’s God looks!  Budgie and the Glitter Band Beats  First Money from music - Go buy a Studio  T.Rex - Electric Warrior was THE album for Lol, Wayne and Budgie  A copy of Electric Warrior said, ‘We’re definitely friends!’ Lol had a delusion of Mikey Finn Stardom  I’m a Howling Wolf said Marc Bolan  lots of love says, Wayne x ___ Respect: Mickey Finn (3 June 1947 – 11 January 2003)  ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Budgie plays his Big Bass Harp The Cult and Subbuteo keep everyone Sharp Introducing a Liverpool theme You’ll Never Walk Alone, now choose your team!   Lol delivered Newspapers for 25 Bob Delivering milk was Wayne’s other Job The Beeb Top 40 on Sundays recorded 5 Pounds a week a new album afforded  David K Jones had a Brian Connolly haircut Young Budgie’s Skinhead made the Headmaster Tut! Banshees and Cure played soccer together  The Cure played the crew but it made Heavy weather! Wayne played for Charity and Drew with the Frankies  Nasher the Smasher drew Coronation Street hankies! Wayne and Budgie played in a band  It lasted two days and then they were canned Wayne with Pete Burns in Dead or Alive Built like a builder - Pete tolerated no Jive ‘Gimme Dat Harp Boy’ Budgie blows the Whistle Test intro Wayne and Lol speechless, ‘He plays like a Pro!’ Lol first met Wayne in the 80’s euphoria  saw the Mission play a blinder at London’s Astoria  And on into the sunrise of a new friendship’s Gloria! Whispering Bob Harris and Annie Nightingale hosting  Morning already? Imaginary boys toasting  Sugarcubes’ Einar and Bob had a Ruckus? The Zillow in Germany was it playful then serious? Wayne once lived in the Columbia Hotel Budgie stayed at One Queensway for a similar spell Wayne’s Solo book tour - music and reading  Lol toured Chuck Berry style with local Cure-heads leading Chile, and Peru where the Cure’s pick-up glistens  Pornography is one of Wayne’s favourite listens Albie Singer was Wayne’s hotel pseudonym  Budgie was Chad Valley and Lol, Mr Lazlo  When Wayne asked reception, Hey what room am I in? The room for Mr Pussy must be Wayne’s alter-Ego Turned out Mr Pussy was the room Johnny Lydon was in! ‘Delusions of Grandeur’   Lol spends 4 months at the Beverly Hills 4 Seasons  Wayne drives around strange places on tour in New Zealand  Onwards to Moscow or was it Rio or Bangkok?  Lol used a matchbox to find his hotel  Budgie did too but which matchbox is it? It’s Spinal Tap again!  ___ Respect: Captain Beefheart - (Don Van Vliet: January 15, 1941 - December 17, 2010) ___  CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Like Indian musicians, we tuned together  Stroboscopic Tuners, revealed that we never Played a gig in Concert pitch - whatever. New drumheads were stolen  Boiled bass strings saved money Pitch Pipes were our first harmonicas Riding White Swans  We were Kids of the Revolution  Thank the gods for glam and David Bowie   The Sweet at the I-Beam and their 3-part harmonies  Deep Purple and The Beach Boys combined That a good catchy song makes a band worth it’s char-monies. Took NOFX a decade to find  Buddy Holly died the day that Lol was born  Lol became Big Bopper a natural showstopper Busby Berkeley twirled, and Budgie sought ‘em! Beatles for Sale and Budgie bought ‘em! The Captain was Awesome in the Village of The Damned Lol and Mikey D said, ‘Should we call on Rat’s Mum?’  NOFX had 10 years of peace until Covid  Mike had No music as a kid  No smoking behind the bike sheds No Drugs, no Pot, no Meth heads  Outsiders for life – it’s a Gas!   Mike? Still a punk at his High-School reunion?  Retirement? - No way!  Mike is living the dream again! Lol’s American Passport - Berlin black shirt and round glasses - Beatles in Hamburg  10,000 hours - 16 chords - Ringo’s Drumstick - Mike Loves 8 times  Oasis plagiarism - Sleaford Modism - Burgundy Velvet Underwear!!!!!  Lol went to Nashville - gave Johnny Cash a No-no  Fishbowl studio tour guides, Flea and Fred a Go-go    What a Lovely Fellow Mike is! ___ Respect: Buddy Holly (September 7th, 1936 – February 3rd, 1959) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up!    Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill, But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill? It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two! Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue! Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic! Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret handshake All the drummers in Pasadena put together make an earthquake A Night in the Museum with an Egyptian sort of sound Genesis and Focus on the Oval cricket ground Bow Bells are Ringing! Cheech of Chong made Lol an Angelino In the Biggest library in the Town of Televisino An unlikely meeting of Minds at the LA Forum Don’t tell Duff McKagan or even Matt Sorum Books Books Books!  When your whole life drifts like a Spirit in the Sky There’s no time left as Tears go By The second one’s needed, so no need to sell ‘em It’s a personal thing - it’s the way I tell ‘em Memory is Not an Exact Science! Don’t you Love me Baby? But you condensed my life into half a chapter! It probably didn’t fit the greater arc of the story It’s not what happens - it’s how you remember it. ___ Respect: Kevin ‘Geordie’ Walker (18 December 1958 – 26 November 2023) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My 1st is in Punk but Never in Junk My 2nd is in Museum but never in Mausoleum  My 3rd is a Shop of Tartan punk Underwear  My 4TH is Shock of Electric Blue Head Hair   Who am I?   Lol has the stuff the Hall of Fame Loves  Stan Laurel jokes follow Budgie like Doves Lol sounds Australian? Mike’s a Bostonian!  We love San Francisco and the fog on The Bay We love the old iBeam and we love Lol’s son Gray The Cure and The Banshees played there in its Hey day Mike saw The Sweet there but we’d all gone away!   Bob and Lol stayed at the Red Victorian  Meeting the legends and Pleasant Germanian The Punk scene came from Bowie’s Roots The Ramones and The Runaways and Doc Martins Boots   Lol was 15 when he saw Suzi Quatro  Then Killing Joke told him to go to America  Fat Mike’s parents didn’t listen to Music  Mike became a Germ Free Adolescent for Poly Styrene    My 1st is in X-Ray Spex and also in Ozzy  My 2nd is in Pat Smear who lent them a Cozzy  My 3rd is in Alice Bag and also in Darby Crash My 4th is in NoFX and also in Graveyard Smash   What am I?   Budgie is all about the Drums It’s always all about the drums  Adam and the Ants - The Glitter band had amazing drums  Adam asked Lol and Lol said, “I’m in the Cure so it’s okay.”  Lol wears white Sox! So he didn’t get beat up at the Missing Persons gig. (who wrote this?)   ___ Respect: Marianne Joan Elliott-Said (3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011) Poly Styrene ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sad story for our friend in Turkey but we remain positive for a good end. Lol and Budgie hopped with Joy to see the Kodo drummers in concert Budgie met Kodo Principal Leonard Eto via prog rock legend Hoppy Kamiyama Leo and Budgie drummed and Hoppy vibed with Chaos tapes and the Hai! album was born In 1977 The Clash drummer Nicky ‘Topper’ Headon was Budgie’s inspiration!  Lol’s mentor Andy McBride taught him the beats of The Clash Kraftwerk introduced us to new sounds and the beating heart of German Industry Stephen Perkins was the ‘Zen Beat Master’ of Jane’s Addiction! And Perry Farrell was Lol’s psychedelic neighbour Lol liked XTC’s Terry Chambers and Stranglers sticksman Jet Black  Budgie dug and digs, Robert ‘Gotobed’ Grey and could have been his namesake Robert is older than Budgie by 6 years, 4 Months; to the day – Is it time for a party? And Lol ‘Stopthatnoise’ Tolhurst Agrees - Kindergarden Made Drum Monsters of us All! It doesn’t take much for drummer’s questions, does it? ___ Respect: Ronald Lee Wilson – (June 26 1944 – May 12 1989) The Surfaris - Wipe Out ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Heavy Rotation for The Siouxsie Bus Party Linton Kwesi-Johnson - Forces of Victory  Psychedelic Furs - India NIN - Pretty Hate Machine London’s Satellite Towns Swingin’ - Dodgy  Policing the Numbskulls Mr Murphy with his baseball bat “Oi, cut it out son or your brown bread.” “Sorry Guv I’ll be leaving then.” Robert’s Red Vinyl Box Simon and Kate Bush’s ‘Hounds of Love’ Club Tolhurst and Club Smith  Evelyn ‘Champagne’ king  Shits and Giggles with Iron Maiden’s  ‘Bring your Daughter to the Slaughter’ Keeping the Crew Filth Happy AC/DC - Back in Black  Mötörhead - ‘Ace of Spades’ SATB - ‘Nicotine Stain’ The Language of the Drums. Budgie’s famous vocal percussion - Fireball Gypsy Eyes morphs into Mad Eyed Screamer Lol and Budgie wish upon a ‘Highway Star’ Say Hi, to ‘Young Americans’  ‘Get it On’ with T.Rex’s ‘Jeepster’! ____ Respect: Dale ‘Buffin’ Griffin - (1948 - 2016) ____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Machine Gunners’ Ear  No Elvis, Beatles, or The Rolling Stones in 1977  Bad brains, Minor Threat and Fugazi - at 14!  Washington DC’s 9:30 Club, The Black Cat and Washington Plaza  The Walkmen cometh in 2000 Eric’s Club matinee, it’s a drive-in Saturday, lots of creativity from NYC In A Forest or In Dust, the Walkmen place their trust, in the Siouxsie-Bob sound, merci!  Bob and Lol’s brothers played music to be loud, discovering the rebel inside From Liverpool to Boston, no charm in the venues, guys in plaid shirts had to hide! More difficult today, is that fair to say? Walkmen wipe-out in London and Bath Salt Lake City rodeo, everyone’s a weirdo, remember roach motels and laugh! Young Budgie loved Winifred Atwell and the Poor people of Paris  The English they love you one time  In the biggest bed Lol gets it to rhyme! Reggae Chart Busters Volume 1 2 & 3 A piano too heavy for the Barfly  Went through a Hole in The Wall Club Manchester was a bit unfriendly  Slim Jim and the Stray Cats, lived in squats Lol’s books into Manhattan  His son on tour Back in the van y’all  Tough for bands in roach motels  No bed and shower? then Lol’s a no show! Budgie loves Kid Congo and The Pink Monkey Birds – True! Harlem Analog in the sweet spot of a terrible idea  Forget to mute and blow out someone’s ear.  Hearing has deteriorated Machine Gunners fear. John McGeoch’s Melodic feedback The soundman was stone deaf - Lol don’t miss floor monitor days  Walkmen are back after a decade no tour  The Black flag soundman was the best first for sure! ____ Respect: Ruth Polsky (December 5, 1954 – September 7, 1986) ____ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

‘The people I remember…’Mutual respect, the Bloc Party hadKele and collaborators, what’s good and what’s badTogether on tour, but then things changeRussell ‘n Kele retain musical respect Musical Respect is a necessary thing Banshees Guitarists, All the Young JohnsSpizz oil and the Banshees, It’s a Family Affair Kele and James Murphy and their traveling bands Having kids and Touring Keep us Peter Pan style. Chilli Pepper pals, Prodigal Sons ‘In the desert you can remember your name’‘Life’s What You Make It’  The Cure take MTV - Budgie signs autographs ‘Down the Pub. ‘The Great Covid Reset’A Non-Touring fantasy - A new way of life?Touring and sleeping go hand in hand!Kele, wants the father-child relationship Lol had none with his father So, he turned it around for his own sonBudgie’s dad was always present Kele’s dad was proud and healing  Budgie’s dad said, “Do whatever makes you happy.” Lol’s mum gave him a love of art and literature  Lol’s mum said - “I like the new single by The Clash”Fun times meeting US Campus kids – smelled like team spirit ABC - The Look of Love - Money Makes the World go Round Art for Art’s sake – Money for God’s sakeBritish Art space receding - young artists and crew get no SupportFeeling the Fallout of the covid years Love to Kele’s family and toi-toi for the tour! Life’s always a giggle with Budgie and Lol!  ___Respect: John Prine (October 10, 1946 – April 7, 2020)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Concentric Circles of Life and the Nightmare of BrexitKele from London via Edinburgh and Liverpool Budgie in France, London and BerlinLol in the USA for 25 yearsOld UK market towns when the pubs are closed Would anyone want a return to 70’s England? Out of Brussels - Nefarious reasons?Strawberries full of chemicals? Capitalism - Free labour?Big Agri eats labour  Children pick berries - Human nature stagnates Automation stealing jobs - packing our bagsArmed response in Beverly Hills Belfast’s most bombed hotel - we’re all in the BarHands up!  Berlin still an island with lots of space Kele, Lol and Budgie went to Catholic school Altar boys all, singing magi and LatinTeenagers rebelling against Catholic guilt 40 years later we have hopefully matured  Not normal to sublimate the ego in your 20’sThat’s what it takes for a band to work A Catch 22 – Few bands remain as first formed If only The Cure had taken a break from the 4th album …A recipe for disaster - everyone loves a rock star, staring into the abyss. ___Respect: Joseph Heller (May 1st 1923 – December 12 1999)___CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Invisible Darlings - Fast piano  Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant  Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde We needed friends - Americans are friendly! Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter  Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! Four sevens Clash! - We’re all numerologists  Playing each other’s instruments - in search of a tune  Hawkwind’s Silver Machine and 7 by 7  Lol & Budgie loved “In Search of Space” Dik-Mik & Lemmy - hippies and punks Damn Skippy – A Darker psychedeliaBeing open to change - Animal Collective’s philosophy  Grow and move on - Nothing lasts  David curious about creative Psychedelics - was Pornography Psychedelic? Challenging times - But Lol’s favourite Cure albumBudgie in a Camden Dreamhouse - Dinner in a Greek restaurant The Cure as a psychedelic punk band. Trout Mask Replica - Strange Days from The DoorsRobert sings backwards at 4 am  Music’s a trip! ___Respect: Lemmy Kilmister (24 December 1945 – 28 December 2015)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live   OMD and Echo and The BunnymenBudgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbalLol and Budgie and the Punk revolutionLoose electronics, unique sounds, and improvisationAvey & Animal Collective bend the Yamaha DX27 like Brian Eno! What’s the patch Today Kids? Animal Collective and Broken Flangers -The future of Music Axis Bold as Love Orgasmic tape flanging!Is the Solina Dutch or Italian? The Mirage worked with beer - The Synare Synth drum broke  Love and Hate In the 80’sAC early days in NYC - Distance and Creation You could play a good tour as your profession.Competition’s not real. Right on!The Internet Ruins Everything it Touches Iowa City Flashback!  “The Devil’s loins’, says Budgie - “Half and half”, says Avey  Flyers in Ashville Oasis – Oklahoma, the city of Flaming Lips Huge airport - No people - Deja Vu or What!? Mr Moog and Mr Buchla “The Buchla is Goth!”, says LolNo Manual - Anything could happen!Avey took his music easel on Tour!Never again RTFM! ___Respect: Robert Arthur Moog (May 23, 1934 – August 21, 2005)___ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wild is the Wind & VulnerabilityBudgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band!Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-SoundWhen Garbage played their first London show in 1995Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy ChainsawShirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie  Golden Years30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it25 Big ones for Lol in his old LA chairShirley loves Lol saying ‘Butch’ in his best Scottish accent A Hard time in LA during lockdown had Shirley return to Scotland asap Little Red CorvetteLol and Budgie dreamed of driving - Shirley drives electric dreamsNow all is Zen behind the wheel - Saving the Rage for the StageShirley was bullied as a kid - SATB helped her become Empowered!Lol and Shirley like Being Stupid sometimes  Break-Up to Make-Up On Tour with The Creatures, came Budgie’s wake-up call Like an old British sitcom, Lol and Budgie share similar experiences Garbage had to break-up to stay together – to ignore what was being said  The Cure & Banshees were too young to know - a year out might have saved them.  Don’t Talk to Me About LoveWe talk about the C-word - Shirley wants the T-shirt!Leaving The Cure was like Lol leaving his family or Excommunication! To understand change is not easy - such a huge part of our identity. Budgie has come to know love’s changesBeing in a band is like being married - the Pot calling the Kettle Black! ChangesShirley succinctly explains being in a bandRelieved that the band has adjusted to her changes  Shirley humbled by hip surgery - a triumphant story!Shirley says, forget your ego - enjoy life and seize the day.Ringo Starr says… Up yer bum! ____Respect: John Lennon (October 9th 1940 – December 8th 1980) ‘Instant Karma’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646  Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudesFinding a better way – with People that healBudgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity As we get better, better things happen  Lol is Awake - Right Now!Meg stops to smell the flowersDiscovers the new in familiar places to find inspiration Don’t force it - Don’t plan it‘Hell is other people.’ said Sartre The Volcanoes of Hawaii tempted The Creatures to Feast! Dogs are Wizards - Cats are Bosses!Preparing to tour - Sad to leave the catsSafe and comfortable on stage  Things get Manifested when you’re Connected In Sound and Vision Meg feels Fully Realised. Lol and Budgie - Keeping it Together! Time to Explore - Madeira Cake - Port - Bananas - Biblical Creativity comes when it wants to be Created Hair as Prayer – Lol’s dream of a Mohawk on the Astral plane Meditating - Downloads and Alignment Meg’s Dreams are her Guides! ____Respect: Simone de Beauvoir (9 January 1908 – 14 April 1986) "The Second Sex - 1949" ____ Check out Meg On Tour - April 17th thru’ May 24th  CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Love it to Death!  Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin too Adam Ant, B.A.D., Def Leppard and Yazoo? All vying for airtime in Great Falls Montana Would Lol’s Studded catsuit have raised a Hosanna? Hey, What do You Do? What is it that makes Reggie choose to risk all? When counting a song in, could make a heart stall It’s not a choice, it’s to brandish, the spiritual sword It’s the old familiar wave, ‘neath an old surfer’s board. How do You Stay Optimistic? Get yourself some Private Ai – become a Super-brain They’re all riding ticketless on a Berlin subway train The only way is Up – away from the Big Corps One potato, two potato, three potato, four Improvising with Fusion!  Recycling everything is the New Future Dream 100-year lightbulbs become like Peaches and Cream All we Need is Love and Reggie in the Race  We’re plotting our escape, to the much bigger place We All Love Collaboration! Music is the Victim – where does that leave us? Solo improvisation – Get the Room to lead us Music is the Funhouse of Mirrors and Smoke You feel it coz’ it’s the real thing – not a bottle of Coke! ___ Respect: Glen Edward Buxton (November 10, 1947 – October 19, 1997) ___ CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst:  Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst  Twitter: @LolTolhurst  Instagram: @lol.tolhurst  Budgie:  Facebook: @budgieofficial  Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee: Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee  Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Not the Body.Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 36 years surviving dissociation from her body the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to herNo more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer spacean epiphany of self-realization.  One Universe of Expression.  Shutting out the opinions and expectation of others Difficult, intense, magical time leading to greater wisdomRemoving the armour of invention Tiny deaths brought release and growth  The Id not The EgoReleased from the toxicity and trauma of childhoodMeg finds new expression of self and spirit through music Resisting all outside intrusions to take time to Create a safe channel. Open to Greater Wisdom‘When there is no me, there is more authenticity.’Meg’s process of Evolution? - Hacking the System!a major perspective shift, an all-knowing Higher self Nothing to be done and Everything will be done. Hmmm…. Exactly! ____ Respect: Sister Rosetta Tharpe (March 20, 1915 – October 9, 1973)"Strange Things Happening Every Day"____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette  The NIN drum throne came free againBeck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! The Youngest to be in the Hall of FameSays, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’Bob needed convincing and nothing less Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes! TOTP not OGWTIf we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba?Ilan is a Musician and Drums his first love The Rhythm of Music and the Energy of Life! More About Drums and Food!Guitarists and singers may minimize the drums but a good drummer is the making of most bands Rhythm and Voice are what most people get.Budgie drummed melodies and chords on the Kit But We Do Dig Guitarists Man!The Violin out-foxed Ilan – too strenuous to learn. No woodwind or Brass but now he plays the clarinet!Budgie left France for Berlin because Toby Dammit’s shoes sounded good.Ten Years After, and Berlin’s still, Grotty, Grimy and Grizzly  Los Angeles is Super-efficient Between tours it’s cool - Before tours it’s cool – After tours it’s cool!Lol didn’t plan to live in LA - he found Love and Acceptance Los Angeles is Lol’s Home Sweet HomeBudgie thought LA would be his too?  SIR – Into The Valley!Indicators out of Sync? - Drummers needing Therapy?Taiko and Dancing? - Lol 3rd Act Lessons? Budgie and Leo’s O’Daiko? - Let the Sticks do the Talking?Lol and Budgie want Roland Taikos to Dance with – Non-Dancing-Dancing!  ____ Respect: Alvin Lee (1944 – 2013) ‘Ten Years After’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing deskNo exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night)Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie (Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums Instantaneous?Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains Will Budgie live in Lols garage?Jimmy Page told Pearl he’s too friggin’ loud! Budgie and the tricks of The Creatures Russian Dragon?Illan relives the Moment of Terror when his IEMs fell out.It’s time to change when Smoke and Mirrors obscure allIlan’s drum kit disappears in smoke – where does he go? Smoke and strobes transport Ilan. Drummers Corner:  Ilan is right handed but he plays the hi-hat leftie Reggae showed Budgie a different drum style  Titilating Titbits:Ilan loves Stewart Copeland’s mix of rock and reggaeLol plays to the voices in his headBudgie only sings when the extractor fan is in his key. Ilans toothbrush goes from major to minor.Doesn’t Yours?  ____Respect: Jaki Liebezeit (26 May 1938– 22 January 2017) CAN____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything.It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young Lush stopped and Everything changedIt's good the world changed too.  Early 90’s Game Changers Life without a safety net, no gold watchLol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drummingThe Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Innocent Time  Gilbert and George v Lol and BudgieDrinking with The Wankers at 5amFrom Whitechapel to SohoBrit Pop was a marketing construct. Elastica’s difficult 2nd album took them to France  Siouxsie and Budgie’s house for inspirational teaThere should be a Book – Book Events are Cool People always ask the question that isn't a question  Miki wasn't part of any club's eliteWho’d want to be a member of the club that would have us as a member? Miki felt humiliated amongst the paraphernalia of professional drug takers Miki was not good with drugs – a weeping-jello-mess-in-crisis in the corner Lol backed off from it – a blessing in disguise. Drugs took away a lot of personalities, all looking for a good time Peer Pressure - You’re either built for it or you’re not. The High was a Low on so many levels Blimey! - We could talk forever! Did Budgie inhale?  ____Respect: Nico – (1938 – 1988) ‘Chelsea Girl’____ CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646   Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices