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| EU-U.S. Tensions, Economic Indicators, and Zeroing Out Tariffs | 15 Sep 2025 | 00:35:49 | |
On this episode of the Trade Guys, we look at ongoing challenges to the EU-U.S. trade relationship, the early data on the macroeconomic impacts of the tariffs both home and abroad, and a recent executive order zeroing out tariffs on a select range of goods deemed not available in the United States.
Trade continues to be the hottest policy topic in Washington, which is why we’re bringing back our Crash Course: Trade Policy with the Trade Guys this fall. If you missed our spring course, now is the perfect time to register. The course runs from October 8-9 at CSIS Headquarters or via Zoom. Registration is open until October 3. | |||
| China’s Quest to Engineer the Future: A Conversation with Dan Wang | 04 Sep 2025 | 00:34:34 | |
In this joint episode of Pekingology and the ChinaPower Podcast, CSIS Freeman Chair Senior Fellow Henrietta Levin and co-host CSIS China Power Project Deputy Director and Fellow Brian Hart are joined by Dan Wang to discuss his new book, Breakneck: China’s Quest to Engineer the Future. The conversation unpacks China’s monumentalism in its grand engineering projects, the advantages and consequences of building at such scale, China’s push to lead in key technologies, Beijing’s social engineering efforts, and much more.
Dan Wang is a research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover History Lab. Previously, he was a fellow at the Yale Law School’s Paul Tsai China Center and a lecturer at Yale University’s MacMillan Center for International and Area Studies. From 2017 to 2023, he worked in China as the technology analyst at Gavekal Dragonomics, based in Hong Kong, Beijing, and then Shanghai.
For more from Dan Wang, please read his latest piece in Foreign Affairs - The Real China Model: Beijing’s Enduring Formula for Wealth and Power. | |||
| Taiwan in the Western Hemisphere: A Status Update | 04 Sep 2025 | 00:27:14 | |
Seven countries in Latin America and the Caribbean recognize Taiwan in lieu of the People’s Republic of China, the most of any other region in the world. However, the number of formal Taiwan allies has been in steady decline, particularly since 2017 when Panama changed its diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing and joined the Belt and Road Initiative. Today, Taiwan’s status among its remaining allies appears to be under increasing pressure.
In this episode, Ryan C. Berg sits down with Henry Large, a Rhodes Scholar and Doctoral candidate in Latin American Studies at the University of Oxford. Together, they discuss the history behind Panama's 2017 switch, the state of Taiwan's relationships with the region today, and why diplomatic allies matter for Taipei. They also discuss how the United States, which itself does not formally recognize Taiwan, can be a better partner in promoting ties with the region. | |||
| Why Aid Matters to Asia Strategy | 22 Jul 2025 | 00:35:39 | |
This week Mike speaks with Michael Schiffer, former Assistant Administrator of the USAID Bureau for Asia from 2022 to 2025. Prior to that he was Senior Advisor and Counselor to the U.S. Senate Committee of Foreign Relations. They discuss foreign aid and its role in supporting U.S. interests abroad. | |||
| An Indispensable Partner: U.S.-India Relations in the Indo-Pacific | 26 Jun 2025 | 00:39:24 | |
This week Mike speaks with Richard Rossow, an esteemed expert who has focused on U.S.-India Relations for over 25 years. He is currently Senior Adviser and Chair on India and Emerging Asia Economics at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. They discuss the activities of the Quad, U.S.-India relations, how India could grow its trade partnership with the United States, and more. | |||
| Russia, the Newest Disrupter in Southeast Asia? | 05 Jun 2025 | 00:39:59 | |
This week Mike speaks with Ian Storey, Senior Fellow at the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute and Editor of the Contemporary Southeast Asia journal. His new book is Putin's Russia and Southeast Asia: The Kremlin's Pivot to Asia and the Impact of the Russia-Ukraine War and is the first single-authored book on Russia and Southeast Asia to be published since the end of the cold war. It can be found using this link. | |||
| IEEPA Tariffs Struck Down, EU Tariff Threats, and the Big Beautiful Bill | 02 Jun 2025 | 00:27:40 | |
On this episode of the Trade Guys, we walk through decisions by two federal courts blocking the Trump administration's use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). We then look at the president's recent threat of 50% tariffs on the EU and the "Big Beautiful" budget reconciliation bill moving through Congress. | |||
| Indo-Pacific Strategy with U.S. Rep. Ami Bera | 20 May 2025 | 00:30:59 | |
This week Mike speaks to Congressman Ami Bera, who represents California’s Sixth Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives. Representative Bera is a senior Democrat serving as Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs East Asia and Pacific Subcommittee and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. They discuss the role of Congress in determining U.S. Indo Pacific Strategy. | |||
| China’s Shipbuilding Dominance: A Conversation with Eric Labs and Matthew Funaiole | 15 May 2025 | 00:53:56 | |
In this episode of the ChinaPower Podcast, Dr. Eric Labs and Dr. Matthew Funaiole join us to explore the widening gap in U.S.-China shipbuilding capabilities. They begin by examining the evolution in U.S.-China shipbuilding industrial capacity since World War II. Dr. Labs points out that while China’s shipbuilding industrial capacity has grown substantially due to large-scale state subsidies and government support, the U.S. has steadily fallen behind in production capacity since the 1960s with the rise of Japan and South Korea shipbuilding industries and the end of construction differential subsidies in the early 1980s. Dr. Funaiole further emphasizes that this industrial capacity disparity is particularly concerning as many foreign companies from Europe, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan are purchasing commercial ships from Chinese shipyards, which effectively offsets Chinese naval shipbuilding production costs and facilitates technological transfer. Both guests warn that this widening shipbuilding gap could impact U.S. warfighting and logistics capacity in a prolonged conflict. Dr. Labs concludes with four policy options for the U.S.to consider, including improving labor issues and enhancing workforce attrition within the shipbuilding industry, legislation changes to allow the U.S. to purchase warships from allies, designing smaller warships, and incorporating unmanned maritime platforms in the navy. Finally, Dr. Funaiole recommends a change in policy approach that combines national security and economic outcomes that specifically target Chinese shipyards that are dual use in nature, while ensuring sustained efforts in revamping the U.S. shipbuilding industry across future administrations.
Dr. Eric Labs is the Senior Analyst for Naval Forces and Weapons at the Congressional Budget Office in Washington, D.C. He specializes in issues related to the procurement, budgeting, and sizing of the forces for the Department of the Navy. Dr. Labs has testified before Congress numerous times and published many reports under the auspices of the Congressional Budget Office as well as articles and papers in academic journals and conferences, including the U.S. Naval Institute’s Proceedings, Sea Power magazine, the Naval War College Review, and Security Studies. He has given presentations to a variety of industry, government, and academic audiences.
Dr. Matthew P. Funaiole is vice president of the iDeas Lab, Andreas C. Dracopoulos Chair in Innovation, and senior fellow in the China Power Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). He specializes in using data-driven research to address complex policy issues, with a focus on Chinese foreign policy, dual-use technology, and maritime trade. In 2022, he launched the “Hidden Reach” initiative, which leverages open-source intelligence to uncover poorly understood sources of Chinese influence and examine how China advances its strategic interests through commercial and scientific ventures. From late 2015 through mid-2020, he was the principal researcher for the ChinaPower website. Prior to joining CSIS, Dr. Funaiole taught international relations and foreign policy analysis at the University of Saint Andrews in Scotland, where he also completed his doctoral research. | |||
| Rest In Peace, the Status Quo: Romanian Elections, a “Brexit Reset,” and Clashes in Transatlantic Tech | 15 May 2025 | 00:44:34 | |
On this episode, Max and Donatienne cover the first round of the Romanian presidential election, where George Simion, a hard-right candidate, soared to a first-place finish ahead of the second round on May 18. Since recording this episode on May 5th, major developments, including the resignation and Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu and rapid capital flight, have sparked a political crisis. This story is still developing.
The hosts then break down British Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s attempt to reset relations with the European Union ahead of a May 19 Brexit summit, and welcome Abe Newman, professor in the School of Foreign Service and Government Departments at Georgetown University and Director of the BMW Center for German and European Studies, for a conversation about coming collisions in transatlantic tech. | |||
| The Aftermath of Canada’s Elections | 15 May 2025 | 00:29:58 | |
Prime Minister Mark Carney led the Liberal Party to a narrow victory in Canada’s pivotal election in April 28. Running a campaign centered on uniting Canadians against U.S. President Trump’s annexation threats and punitive tariffs, Mr. Carney orchestrated a remarkable political comeback for the Liberals, who had been expected to suffer a landslide defeat until a few months earlier. Despite the win, Mr. Carney now faces the steep challenge of governing with a minority. His ability to deliver on domestic issues will shape his legacy as much as his handling of relations with Washington. Balancing these priorities will not be an easy task, and Prime Minister Carney has no time to waste.
In this episode, Christopher Hernandez-Roy sits down with Andrew Potter, author and associate professor at the Max Bell School of Public Policy at McGill University. Together, they discuss the factors that shaped the election, and the challenges confronting Prime Minister Carney, and Canada as a whole. They also discuss the future of the Canadian Conservative Party under the continued leadership of Pierre Poilievre. | |||
| Is AI a Game Changer in U.S.-China Competition? | 29 Apr 2025 | 00:38:05 | |
This week Mike speaks to Ben Buchanan, Assistant Professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and former Director for Technology and National Security on the National Security Council and White House Special Advisor on AI. He was also the former Director of the CyberAI Project at the Center for Security and Emerging Technology at Georgetown University and has written several influential books. They discuss AI competition between the U.S. and China. | |||
| Emergency Trade Guys: Reciprocal Tariff Reactions | 03 Apr 2025 | 00:24:26 | |
On this week's episode of the Trade Guys, Bill and Andrew give their first takes on the April 2 tariff announcements from the White House. | |||
| Dictatorship and Information | 03 Apr 2025 | 00:36:14 | |
In this episode of Pekingology from January 2023, Freeman Chair Jude Blanchette is joined by Martin K. Dimitrov, a professor of political science at Tulane University, to discuss his recent book, ‘Dictatorship and Information’: Authoritarian Regime Resilience in Communist Europe and China. | |||
| Accra’s housing crisis is forcing young people to delay the traditional milestones of adulthood. | 03 Apr 2025 | 00:25:15 | |
Catherine Nzuki is joined by Naa Laryea, a software engineer living in Accra. She walks us through what apartment hunting is like in Accra, why some landlords ask for a year or two years’ worth of rent up front, and the causes of the housing crisis in Accra.
Nelson C.J., West Africa Correspondent at OkayAfrica, joins the Afropolitan and zooms out to discuss the common drivers of the housing crunch in major West African cities. Nelson shares his findings from his recent article with OkayAfrica, examining how the National Tenants Union of Ghana is advocating for affordable housing and rent control. Lastly, as Africa’s population grows, Nelson unpacks how investing in small and mid-sized cities can help decongest cities like Accra, Dakar, and Lagos.
You can read Nelson C. J.’s work on OkayAfrica and follow Nelson C.J. on X (@nelsoncj3) and Instagram (@nelsonfromnorman____). | |||
| Dahlia Scheindlin: Israel’s Political Turmoil | 03 Apr 2025 | 00:33:52 | |
This week on Babel, Jon Alterman speaks with Dr. Dahlia Scheindlin, a Tel Aviv-based political analyst and Haaretz columnist. Scheindlin also serves as a fellow at Century International and has advised on eight national Israeli election campaigns over a twenty-year period. Together, they discuss the sources of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s staying power, as well as his ongoing efforts to remodel key state institutions. Then, Jon continues the conversation with Ninar Fawal and Will Todman to evaluate how the changes underway in Israel might affect bilateral relations with the United States.
Transcript: "Dahlia Scheindlin: Israel’s Political Turmoil," CSIS, April 3, 2025.
Scheindlin's latest article: "The Escape Artist: How Netanyahu Lies and Why People Still Believe Him," Haaretz, April 1, 2025. | |||
| South Korean Tumult and Strategic Direction | 01 Apr 2025 | 00:34:58 | |
This week Mike joins Victor Cha, President, Geopolitics and
Foreign Policy Department and Korea Chair. From 2021 to 2025, he was appointed
by Joseph R. Biden administration to serve on the Defense Policy Board in an
advisory role to the secretary of defense. From 2004 to 2007, he served on the
National Security Council (NSC) and was responsible for Japan, Korea,
Australia/New Zealand, and Pacific Island nations. They discuss South Korea's
recently failed coup in 2024, and the future of South Korean international
relations in the region. | |||
| Auto Tariffs and U.S.-India Trade Relations | 31 Mar 2025 | 00:26:35 | |
On this week's episode of the Trade Guys, we unpack the recent tariffs on cars. We also do a deep dive on trade relations with India.
Want to build your knowledge of American trade policy and politics by learning from top experts? Join the Trade Guys for a hybrid course on May 8-9. Learn more and sign up here: Crash Course: Trade Policy with the Trade Guys | |||
| Democratic Backsliding in Turkey, Steps Forward for EU Defense, and Decoding US-Russia-Ukraine Negotiations feat. Tom Wright | 28 Mar 2025 | 00:59:58 | |
This week, Max and Donatienne discuss the state of Turkey’s democracy after the jailing of Istanbul’s mayor days before becoming presidential candidate, the latest European Council meeting and a new EU white paper for European defense. Then, our hosts turn to a conversation with Tom Wright, senior fellow at Brookings and former Senior Director for Strategic Planning at the United States National Security Council (NSC) in the Biden administration, to discuss his recent article in Foreign Affairs outlining a U.S. strategy for Russia-Ukraine negotiations.
Learn more:
Russian Roulette | CSIS Podcasts
The Right U.S. Strategy for Russia-Ukraine Negotiations | Foreign Affairs | |||
| U.S.-China Artificial Intelligence Competition: A Conversation with Dr. Jeffrey Ding | 28 Mar 2025 | 00:32:32 | |
In this episode of the ChinaPower Podcast, Dr. Jeffrey Ding joins us to discuss U.S.-China artificial intelligence (AI) competition and his book, Technology and the Rise of Great Powers: How Diffusion Shapes Economic Competition. Dr. Ding describes the framework he uses to understand the competition between the US and China on AI and explains that while many assume leading a technological competition comes from developing the next breakthrough invention, it should actually be centered around the diffusion of these technologies throughout their population of users. Technological leadership, therefore, depends on which country can best transfer and spread innovation from its top firms to the entire economy more effectively. Dr. Ding notes that China prioritizes an innovation-centric approach while neglecting broad-based technical and STEM education. He finds that the United States is better positioned than China to adopt and diffuse AI across a broad spectrum of sectors, given that more U.S. training institutions meet a quality baseline compared to China’s. Dr. Ding advises that since the United States is better positioned to diffuse AI technologies throughout its economy, it should focus on “running fast” rather than restricting China’s access to advanced technologies. Finally, Dr. Ding recommends that Washington focus on education policy, widening the base of AI engineers by increasing training sites, supporting public-private partnerships, and helping SMEs develop their AI capabilities.
Dr. Jeffrey Ding is an Assistant Professor of Political Science at George Washington University, and the author of Technology and the Rise of Great Power: How Diffusion Shapes Economic Competition. Previously, he was a postdoctoral fellow at Stanford's Center for International Security and Cooperation, sponsored by Stanford's Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence. His research has been published or is forthcoming at European Journal of International Security, Foreign Affairs, Review of International Political Economy, and Security Studies, and his work has been cited in The Washington Post, The Financial Times, and other outlets. He also writes a weekly "ChinAI" newsletter, which features translations of Chinese conversations about AI development, to 12,000+ subscribers including the field's leading policymakers, scholars, and journalists. Dr. Ding holds a Ph.D in international relations from Oxford University, where he studied as a Rhodes scholar. | |||
| Venture Capital to Win the Tech Race featuring Mike Brown | 26 Mar 2025 | 00:46:35 | |
Mike Brown, Partner at Shield Capital and former Director of the Defense Innovation unit, joined Navin Girishankar on this episode of Betting on America to explore the role of venture capital in growing our technological and industrial base, and ensuring our economic security. | |||
| The think tank making impact evaluation skills accessible to every Tanzanian | 20 Mar 2025 | 00:28:02 | |
We traditionally think of impact evaluation as an academic or technical skill. The Impact Evaluation (IE) Lab at the Economic and Social Research Foundation (ESRF), a think tank in Dar es Salaam, is working to change that.
Catherine Nzuki is joined by Dr. Constantine Manda, the co-founder and inaugural Director of the IE Lab at ESRF, and Assistant Professor of Political Science at the University of California, Irvine. The core mission of the IE Lab is to expose every Tanzanian to IE, even in its simplest form, regardless of education level.
They discuss what impact evaluation is, why it’s important for every Tanzanian to be introduced to impact evaluation methods, and how the IE Lab tailors its training for policymakers and local authorities. Dr. Manda also shares the interventions done by the IE Lab to encourage Covid-19 vaccine uptake in Tanzania and healthier food habits in Dar es Salaam.
Read more about the IE Lab’s research here. | |||
| Dr. Jeffrey Gold, President, University of Nebraska system: lately it’s been “a day-by-day, week-by-week course adjustment.” | 20 Mar 2025 | 00:27:37 | |
Dr. Jeffrey Gold, President of the University of Nebraska system, testified recently before the House Committee on Veteran Affairs Health Subcommittee on plans to replace a 1950 VA hospital with a hospital on the university grounds, with projected savings of half a billion dollars. Since the Trump administration began two months ago, it has been “a day-by-day, week-by-week course adjustment,” featuring ongoing court deliberations, cuts to programs, and the rollout of tariffs, amid great uncertainty. Anxiety has risen due to the unusual speed of change, which has permitted little time to prepare. In the meantime, the decline in the price of corn and soy jeopardizes the economy. The university system and hospitals account for 8.5-9% of the state’s GDP, the highest level per capita in the country. They also depend on $700 million of extramurally funded research. For the past nine years, Dr. Gold has led the highly successful weekly cable broadcast, ‘Rural Health Matters’ on Monday nights on RFD TV. Its mandate is to create awareness among farmers and ranchers, reaching over 15 million households, of the most impactful health matters. | |||
| Abe's Legacy and Japan's Next Moves | 18 Mar 2025 | 00:42:01 | |
This week Mike joins Nobukatsu Kanehara, Professor at Doshisha University in Kyoto, Japan. Mr. Kanehara previously served as assistant chief cabinet secretary to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe from 2012 to 2019. In 2013, he also became the inaugural deputy secretary-general of the National Security Secretariat. He also served as deputy director of the Cabinet Intelligence and Research Office. They discuss Japan's foreign policy and what to expect in the coming years. | |||
| Scholl Chair Phil Luck and the Trade Guys Provide a Tariff Update | 17 Mar 2025 | 00:21:54 | |
The Trade Guys are joined by the new Scholl Chair in International Business, Dr. Philip Luck, to provide an update on tariffs on Canada and Mexico and to discuss the Mar-a-lago Accords. | |||
| Renad Mansour and Sanam Vakil: Iranian Networks in the Middle East | 13 Mar 2025 | 00:46:43 | |
On March 4, Jon Alterman spoke with Renad Mansour, senior research fellow and director of the Iraq Initiative at Chatham House, and Sanam Vakil, director of the Middle East and North Africa program at Chatham House, about the resilience of Iranian networks in the Middle East. Their discussion builds upon a recent Chatham House report Renad co-wrote on the topic. The following episode is a slightly condensed version of their conversation. You can find a link to the video of the complete discussion below.
Transcript: "Renad Mansour and Sanam Vakil: Iranian Networks in the Middle East," CSIS, March 13, 2025.
Video of the discussion: "Iranian Networks in the Middle East," CSIS, March 6, 2025.
Renad's report: "The Shape-Shifting ‘Axis of Resistance’," Chatham House, March 6, 2025.
Sanam and Jon's article: "The Indomitable IRGC," Foreign Affairs, August 15, 2024. | |||
| Why Does the CCP Need a Core? | 13 Mar 2025 | 00:35:36 | |
In this episode of Pekingology which aired in February 2022, Jude Blanchette is joined by Xuezhi Guo, the Lincoln Financial Professor of Political Science at Gilford College, to discuss his book, The Politics of the Core Leader in China: Culture, Institution, Legitimacy, and Power. | |||
| Deepseek Report, Manus AI, and the DOD’s New Acquisition Approach | 12 Mar 2025 | 00:25:16 | |
In this episode, we discuss the Wadhwani AI Center’s latest publication on the implications of DeepSeek for the future of export controls (0:40), Chinese company Manus AI (9:05), what Secretary Hegseth’s memo means for the DOD AI ecosystem (15:27), and xAI’s acquisition of 1 million square feet for its new data center in Memphis (21:28). | |||
| A Tech Power Playbook for the United States featuring Sen. Todd Young | 12 Mar 2025 | 00:41:24 | |
Senator Todd Young (R-IN), a national champion of U.S. technology leadership in the global competition with China, joins Navin Girishankar on the Economic Security and Technology Department’s new series: Betting on America. Girishankar and Senator Young discuss a ‘tech power playbook’ for the United States including investments in chipmaking and biotech, tech diplomacy abroad, and the importance of investing in basic research. | |||
| “Ship Wars: Confronting China’s Dual-Use Shipbuilding Empire”: Audio Brief with Matthew P. Funaiole | 11 Mar 2025 | 00:05:00 | |
A short, spoken-word summary from CSIS’s Matthew P. Funaiole on his report with Brian Hart and Aidan Powers-Riggs, Ship Wars: Confronting China’s Dual-Use Shipbuilding Empire. | |||
| The Terms of Trade: A Somber Prognosis from WTO Expert Tu Xinquan | 10 Mar 2025 | 00:37:52 | |
On this episode of China Field Notes, Scott Kennedy speaks with Tu Xinquan, a leading Chinese expert on the World Trade Organization (WTO) and global economic governance. They review the initial enthusiasm accompanying China’s accession to the WTO two decades ago, the debates on whether China’s behavior conforms with its WTO commitments, and the need for WTO reform to address industrial policy, national security, digital trade, and labor standards.
Tu Xinquan of China’s University of International Business & Economics (UIBE) discusses China’s entry into the WTO, the growth of trade tensions, and reforms needed to global economic governance. | |||
| What It Takes to Be the Best: the Story of Evan Greenberg, Part Two | 07 Mar 2025 | 00:32:28 | |
This is part-two of Mariana's discussion with Evan Greenberg—Chairman and CEO of Chubb Insurance, a CSIS Trustee, and her husband. The pair breaks down the state of the insurance industry, Evan's experience operating in China, his experience as an entrepreneur, and his outlook for the future. | |||
| Schemes and Scam Inc. in Southeast Asia | 06 Mar 2025 | 00:38:10 | |
Mike hosts Sue-Lin Wong, the Economist’s Southeast Asia correspondent. She was formerly a China correspondent for The Economist and host of The Prince, a multiple award-winning Economist podcast series about Xi Jinping. They discuss Southeast Asia and her new podcast Scam Inc. | |||
| Aid Freezes and Security in the Andes | 06 Mar 2025 | 00:25:48 | |
As one of his first actions in office, U.S. president Donald Trump ordered a 90-day freeze on foreign assistance pending review for alignment with U.S. foreign policy goals. Subsequent moves by the administration, including the aggressive downsizing and de facto elimination of the U.S. Agency for International Development have roiled Washington and resulted in far-reaching implications. Within the Western Hemisphere, the Andean region, particularly Colombia, stands to be one of the areas most impacted by these funding freezes.
In this episode, Ryan C. Berg sits down with Elizabeth Dickinson, Senior Analyst for the Andes at Crisis Group. Together, they discuss how the cutoff of U.S. assistance is impacting security and counter-narcotics efforts in Colombia. They also explore the openings that the end of U.S. assistance creates for other powers to enter the security assistance space, particularly the European Union and China. | |||
| Analysis: Trump’s Middle East Strategy | 06 Mar 2025 | 00:06:31 | |
On Tuesday night, President Trump delivered the first broadcast address of his second term to Congress. Though his remarks on the Middle East were sparing and largely expected, U.S. policy in the region has largely been the opposite. Trump’s pronouncements on Gaza have sent especially powerful shockwaves throughout the Middle East, and hints of a new approach to Iran have also elicited attention. Asher Grant-Sasson speaks with Jon Alterman, director of the CSIS Middle East Program, about the state of U.S. Middle East policy and its possible future trajectories. | |||
| Dr. Elizabeth (Beth) Cameron: “It has been a blizzard... It’s a staggering reality” | 06 Mar 2025 | 00:36:19 | |
Dr. Elizabeth (Beth) Cameron, Professor, Brown University, and former senior official in global health security and biodefense at the White House and USAID, kindly shares her thoughts on the radical changes unfolding inside the U.S. government surrounding biothreats. Two internal factions within the Trump administration vie with one another. “It’s a bleak picture” in the accumulating damage to the federal workforce, programs, and the protective shield inside and outside our borders. Elon Musk alleges USAID is producing bioweapons, a patent lie. “It’s preposterous” and “dangerous.” More responsibilities will now fall to governors. What to make of the Trump administration’s recent $1B announcement on H5N1 to assist the poultry industry, and its decision to revisit the $590m contract with Moderna for a mRNA human vaccine for H5N1? We don’t know much on what is going to happen in Congress and DOD. And when emergency crises will strike next. Where to find hope? Our civil servants. | |||
| Vietnam’s “Era of National Rise” with Khang Vu | 06 Mar 2025 | 00:34:51 | |
Greg and Elina talk with Khang Vu. They discuss Vietnam’s bureaucratic reforms and its declaration of an “Era of National Rise.” Japhet and Lauren cover the latest from the region, from Ramadan to an update on scam centers in Thailand and Myanmar.
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| The new Alliance of Sahel States and the future of Africa’s legacy institutions | 06 Mar 2025 | 00:48:46 | |
Three West African countries - Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso - have finalized their exit from the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS). Another thing they have in common? All three countries are under junta rule after military coups that took place in recent years. They have since formed their own union - the Alliance of Sahel States (AES).
Why have these three countries exited ECOWAS, and is this a crisis point for the regional bloc? Catherine Nzuki is joined by Beverly Ochieng, Senior Analyst for Francophone Africa at Control Risks, and a Senior Associate with the CSIS Africa Program, to unpack these questions and more.
They discuss the state of politics and security in Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso (1:30); why the leaders of these military juntas are popular at home and across Africa (4:40); what drove the decision to exit ECOWAS and what this means for unity in the region (7:37); how the AES is using arts, culture, and media to self-legitimize; (20:00); how the pan-African, decolonial rhetoric of the leaders of AES is translating into their governance choices (24:11); if the AES confederation is strong enough to weather rough international winds on their own (28:49); the state of Africa’s legacy institutions today and how responsive they are to shifting regional politics and the collapsing post-WWII order (37:15). | |||
| Introducing Hidden Depths | 27 Feb 2025 | 00:01:32 | |
Introducing Hidden Depths, a six-part narrative podcast miniseries exploring the dynamics of water conflict and the possibilities for water cooperation. Join us as we dive into the shared future of this most critical resource. First two episodes drop Wednesday, March 12th wherever you get your podcasts. | |||
| Max Bergmann: Does Europe Matter in the Middle East? | 27 Feb 2025 | 00:28:38 | |
This week on Babel, Jon Alterman speaks with Max Bergmann, head of the Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program at CSIS. Previously, Max held a variety of positions at the State Department, including senior adviser to the assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs. He later went on to serve as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, where he researched security cooperation between Europe, Russia, and the United States. Together, Jon and Max discuss the Middle East issues that unite and divide European countries and how Russia’s invasion of Ukraine may be reshaping European perspectives on the region. Then, Jon continues the conversation with Martin Pimentel and Will Todman to evaluate the benefits, and costs, of U.S. unilateralism in the Middle East.
Transcript: "Max Bergmann: Does Europe Matter in the Middle East?," CSIS, February 27, 2025.
Max Bergmann's recent report: "The Transatlantic Alliance in the Age of Trump: The Coming Collisions," CSIS, February 14, 2025. | |||
| Coalitions of the Weak | 27 Feb 2025 | 00:50:14 | |
In this episode of Pekingology from June 2022, Jude Blanchette is joined by Victor Shih, associate professor and Ho Miu Lam Chair in China and Pacific Relations at the School of Global Policy and Strategy, UC San Diego. They discuss his book, Coalitions of the Weak: Elite Politics in China from Mao’s Stratagem to the Rise of Xi. | |||
| Pacific Airwaves – Aid, Alliances, and Uncertainty | 27 Feb 2025 | 00:14:30 | |
Andreyka welcomes new co-host John Augé to Pacific Airwaves to discuss Trump’s return to the White House, the impact of USAID cuts to the region, the Cook Islands’ cooperative agreements with China, and more. | |||
| Dr. Vanessa Kerry: "Health is a Cornerstone of Global Security" | 27 Feb 2025 | 00:31:38 | |
Dr. Vanessa Kerry, founder of Seed Global Health, Associate Professor, Harvard School of Medicine, and since June 2023 the WHO Director-General’s Special Envoy on Climate Change and Health, joined The CommonHealth to unpack her recent article ‘Health is a Cornerstone of Global Security,’ published February 14 in Foreign Policy. In it, she argues the need to rethink health as the first line of defense, with a heavy emphasis on economics, equity, and migration. We need to broaden the definition of the health security agenda; introduce health metrics into any discussion of economic growth; see health as an investment with high returns—a growing sector of national economies, in job creation, markets, and a larger tax base; and focus on finance e.g. special drawing rights, social bonds, and swaps. At the same time we need to engage internationally through strong moral leadership and humane policies, and upgrade our communications in an apolitical, non-partisan way that people see, understand, and feel. It is imperative to create opportunity in America that starts with protecting people’s health and well-being, and to create a new pathway, built on humility, to pull us out of the current confusing moment of crisis surrounding foreign aid. | |||
| Analysis: Are U.S.-Russia Talks a Win for the Saudis? | 20 Feb 2025 | 00:04:49 | |
On Tuesday this week, Saudi Arabia hosted the first set of high-level talks between the United States and Russia since Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine. Saudi Arabia’s role in facilitating the negotiations has drawn attention to Riyadh’s pursuit of an increasingly elevated status on the world stage. It also comes amid intensive U.S. efforts to win Saudi Arabia’s support for a normalization deal with Israel. Asher Grant-Sasson speaks with Jon Alterman, director of the CSIS Middle East Program, to discuss what Saudi Arabia gains by hosting the talks and what this might signal about Riyadh’s next moves. | |||
| Consistency, Change, and Crisis in Haiti | 20 Feb 2025 | 00:34:56 | |
Gunfire on Haitian airports and an assault on the largest public hospital show that even the country’s critical infrastructure is not immune to gang violence. Massacres in November and December, claiming over 350 lives, prompted many aid organizations to pull up stakes. While the announcement of elections scheduled for mid-November this year sparked a glimmer of hope, past postponements, the deepening security crisis and the suspension of U.S. assistance to the Multinational Security Support Mission, cast doubts on whether they will ever materialize.
In this episode, Christopher Hernandez-Roy sits down with Georges Fauriol, Senior Associate with the CSIS Americas Program and fellow with the Caribbean Policy Consortium. Together, they discuss recent political developments with the Haitian provisional government, and the future of the embattled MSS force. They also explore how the Trump administration will approach Haiti policy and the question of international security assistance. | |||
| DeepSeek’s AI is cheap. Is this a game-changer for African startups? | 20 Feb 2025 | 00:41:27 | |
Catherine Nzuki is joined by Dr. Chinasa T. Okolo, a fellow in the Center for Technology Innovation in the Governance Studies program at Brookings and a recent computer science Ph.D. graduate from Cornell University.
Dr. Okolo provides an overview of Africa’s AI industry (1:54); DeepSeek and what it means for AI startups (6:40); common misconceptions about AI development (7:54); how to make AI safer for the global majority (14:22); the AI safety landscape in Africa (16:52); developing benchmarks to measure AI safety in Africa (19:05); why reforming existing data governance is a pathway to AI regulation (21:50); ethical approaches to developing language models (25:00); the exploitation of workers that train and label AI models (27:00); and leveraging available language models to build African language models (35:00).
Dr. Okolo’s AI safety initiative: A new writing series: Re-envisioning AI safety through global majority perspectives.
February 19 event on AI Safety at Brookings: Globalizing Perspectives on AI Safety | |||
| Technology Competition: The New Great Game | 20 Feb 2025 | 00:30:52 | |
Mike hosts Tarun Chhabra, former Coordinator for Technology and National Security on the Biden administration’s National Security Council. He was also formerly the NSC Director for Strategic Planning and Director for Human Rights and National Security issues in the Obama Administration. They discuss developments in U.S.-China technological competition. | |||
| Trump's Trade Policy in Context: A Conversation with Doug Irwin | 18 Feb 2025 | 00:33:39 | |
On this week's episode of the Trade Guys, Bill and Scott are joined by special guest Doug Irwin, the John French Professor of Economics at Dartmouth College and a leading trade policy expert. | |||
| Alessandro Accorsi: Disinformation Warfare in the Middle East | 13 Feb 2025 | 00:43:27 | |
This week on Babel, Jon Alterman speaks with Alessandro Accorsi, a senior analyst for social media and conflict at the International Crisis Group. Prior to joining ICG, he worked for five years at the European External Action Service, where he led a taskforce countering foreign interference and information manipulation in the Middle East. He also worked for five years as a freelance journalist in Cairo.
Transcript: "Alessandro Accorsi: Disinformation Warfare in the Middle East," CSIS, February 13, 2025.
Alessandro Accorsi's recent work: "How Israel Mastered Information Warfare in Gaza," Foreign Policy, March 11, 2024. | |||
| How the CCP Finances its Global Ambitions | 13 Feb 2025 | 00:39:35 | |
In this episode of Pekingology which aired on July 6, 2023, Freeman Chair Jude Blanchette is joined by Zongyuan Zoe Liu, a fellow for international political economy at the Council on Foreign Relations and author of the book Sovereign Funds: How the Communist Party of China Finances Its Global Ambitions. | |||
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