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From Blogs to Big Clients: Richard Millington's Consultancy Journey
Thursday, February 6, 2025 • Duration 35:46
Building Trust and Business Growth Through Strategic Content: Insights from Richard Millington
In this episode, Peter O'Donohue interviews Richard Millington, a successful consultant and founder of Fever Bee.
Richard shares his journey of building and leading business development through the power of creating the right kind of content.
He discusses how trust and content have been pivotal in gaining clients proactively and shares practical advice for consultants looking to build their own practices. Learn the secrets behind his successful blogging, speaking engagements, and book publishing, and why focusing on a targeted audience is more effective than going broad.
Don't miss these invaluable insights into the world of consulting and business development.
00:00 Welcome to the Consultants Growth Playbook
00:42 The Power of Trust and Content in Business Development
01:44 Richard's Journey with Fever Bee
03:24 The Evolution of Content Strategy
04:11 Building a Niche Audience
05:38 The Humble Beginnings of Fever Bee
07:25 Intentionality and Luck in Business
09:43 Transitioning from Blogging to Consulting
13:03 Creating Opportunities and Adapting to Market Needs
15:34 Balancing Content Creation and Client Work
18:15 Creating a Course Before Writing a Book
18:59 Promoting the Book Effectively
20:08 Lessons from Writing Multiple Books
21:43 Challenges and Strategies in Advertising
24:04 Balancing Frugality and Investment
25:29 Advice for New Consultants
28:55 Innovative Content Creation
34:30 Final Thoughts and Where to Find More
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Tom Froggatt on the Power of Podcasting - How he added Upto £1.2 million in revenue
Thursday, January 16, 2025 • Duration 35:33
Building a Business Through Podcasting: Tom Froggatt’s Journey with Singular Biotech
In this episode, Peter O'Donohue introduces Tom Froggatt from Singular Biotech, a pioneer in using podcasting as a growth engine for his consulting business.
Tom shares how the 'Careers in Discovery' podcast has generated substantial revenue for Singular Biotech, a consulting firm focused on biotech companies.
He discusses the challenges and strategies behind starting a successful podcast, the importance of building genuine relationships, and the value of providing useful content. Tom also touches on the evolution of his podcast, expanding to new areas, and maintaining consistency to sustain business growth.
This is Ideal for consultants and business owners looking to leverage new methods for lead generation and personal branding.
00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:30 The Power of Podcasting for Business Growth 01:09 About Singular and Its Mission 01:38 The Journey to Starting a Podcast 03:55 Targeting the Right Audience 06:19 Podcasting Strategy and Success 15:26 Consistency and Personal Branding 20:09 Technical Aspects of Starting a Podcast 29:05 Challenges and Overcoming Fear 34:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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A Proactive Framework for B2B Consultants To Win Consulting Clients
Thursday, May 8, 2025 • Duration 01:44:24
Accelerating Consultant Success: Securing Your Next Five Clients
In this session, Peter O’Donahue from Consulting Revenue outlines comprehensive and actionable strategies for consultants to acquire their next five clients, regardless of current momentum. Peter emphasizes the importance of proactive business development and provides a structured framework to ensure continued client acquisition. Key highlights include the significance of evading passive engagement, leveraging existing networks, distinguishing one’s unique value proposition, and implementing high-impact business development sprints. He further discusses current trends in professional services and contrasts between passive hope and active, focused effort in business development. Throughout the session, Peter also engages in a Q&A, addressing individual concerns and providing tailored advice to attendees.
00:00 Introduction and Session Overview
02:51 The Importance of Proactive Business Development
04:54 Current Market Trends and Opportunities
06:38 Framework for Acquiring Consulting Clients
08:26 Overcoming Common Obstacles
19:59 The Right Frame for Success
33:12 Identifying and Targeting the Right People
49:49 The Sprint Activator: Creating Momentum
51:04 Setting the Stage: Making Offers and Strategy Calls
52:34 Understanding Your Numbers and Front-Loading Effort
52:54 Building a Business Development Cadence
53:59 The Network Multiplier: Move Then Improve
55:00 Sprint Activator: Focused Activity for Results
56:22 Real-World Examples: Leveraging LinkedIn and Email
01:02:58 The Get Five Clients Framework
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Maturity Models Sell Better Than Raw Expertise
Friday, March 28, 2025 • Duration 44:54
Productizing Consulting Services with Robert Streeter
In this episode of the Consultants Growth Playbook, host Peter interviews Robert Streeter, head of theax.ai and an expert in consulting and tech. Robert shares his experience in business development, emphasizing the importance of productizing consulting services to create repeatable and scalable offerings. He discusses his journey from a product manager to an independent consultant and how leveraging his knowledge into frameworks, such as maturity models, has been pivotal for his success. They also delve into how Robert's new AI-enablement platform can streamline and enhance consultancy processes, making expertise more consumable and marketable. Robert offers practical advice for consultants starting their practices, stressing the need for clear, fast, and measurable solutions for clients. The episode concludes with Robert sharing his significant learning moments from his varied career, underlining the necessity of balancing innovation with practical client needs.
00:00 Introduction to the Consultants Growth Playbook
00:32 Robert Streeter's Approach to Business Development
02:19 The Concept of Productizing Consulting Services
04:50 Implementing Maturity Models in Consulting
11:44 Robert Streeter's Professional Journey
15:26 Challenges and Strategies for Independent Consultants
18:06 Leveraging Frameworks for Business Development
20:57 Leveraging Models for Consistent Client Engagement
21:21 Challenges in Targeting SaaS Companies Pre-Series A
23:03 Introducing the AI Enablement Platform for Consultancies
23:48 Building and Marketing Models with AI
25:31 Productizing Consultancy Services with AI
28:10 The Role of Thought Leadership in Client Acquisition
30:54 Frameworks and Models for Consultants
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An Interview With John Howard, Partner @Garwood Growth
Thursday, March 6, 2025 • Duration 41:05
In this episode of the Consultants Growth Playbook, I welcome John Howard, a seasoned consultant with extensive experience in business development and leading consulting firms.
The full video interview is here:
John emphasises the importance of building trust and maintaining genuine relationships in business development.
He discusses strategies for positioning you in the right networks and shares insights on the transition from founder-led businesses to structured, scalable operations.
John also touches on his experiences with private equity transactions, systematic networking, and the challenges of stepping back as a founder to let others lead.
Finally, he delves into his role at Garwood Growth, offering advice for consultancies aiming to achieve significant growth or preparing for an exit.
This episode is rich with practical tips and real-world examples from John's career.
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:26 Building Trust in Business Development
01:48 Networking and Relationship Management
03:26 Systematic Approach to Networking
05:29 John Howard's Career Journey
06:13 Channel Three Consulting Success Story
07:55 Sales Mindset and Training
09:57 Recruiting for Business Development
11:46 Transitioning Founder-Led Businesses
14:44 Challenges and Strategies in Business Development
18:30 Starting a Consulting Business
23:00 Garwood Growth and Client Scenarios
26:41 Dealing with Founder Egos
29:15 Early Sales Experience and Lessons Learned
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Productized Consulting and Intrinsic Motivation: A Conversation with Jesse Hopps
Thursday, February 27, 2025 • Duration 39:57
Productized Consulting and Intrinsic Motivation: A Conversation with Jesse Hopps
In this episode of the Consultants Growth Playbook, host Peter interviews Jesse Hopps of Demand Metric. Jesse shares his insights and methods for generating new business through productized consulting and IP licensing. He discusses a live case involving a client struggling to implement a complex upskilling proposal, and elaborates on his approach to productizing solutions to ensure scalability and repeatability. Jesse emphasizes the importance of understanding human psychology and behavior change to drive successful transformations. He also touches on the concept of intrinsic motivation and how it is crucial for effective consulting. Jesse shares his unique point of view on why big consulting firms often fail to deliver on execution and the importance of resilience, grit, and guided discovery in driving real impact for clients.
22:22 Intrinsic Motivation: The Key to Transformation
23:56 Self-Determination Theory Explained
25:48 Guided Discovery in Learning and Development
27:41 Holistic Growth Model for Business Transformation
27:58 The Importance of Mindset and Grit
34:31 Applying Psychology in Business Consulting
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Building a Consultancy on Relationships and Reputation: Insights from Chris Nichols of GameShift
Tuesday, February 18, 2025 • Duration 39:33
Building a Consultancy on Relationships and Reputation: Insights from Chris Nichols of GameShift
In this episode of Consultants Growth Playbook, host Peter interviews Chris Nichols, co-founder of GameShift, a UK-based consultancy. Chris shares that their consultancy has grown from two to twenty people, emphasizing that their success is primarily due to strong relationships and reputations. Despite being small, GameShift has made it onto the Financial Times' Best UK Consultancies list for eight consecutive years. Chris discusses the importance of genuine curiosity, network-building, and introducing clients to the right experts. He also talks about the challenges and surprises of running a micro-consultancy, the value of experimentation, and the importance of continuous learning. This episode offers valuable insights into a relationship-driven approach to consultancy and business development.
00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
00:17 Building Business Through Reputation and Relationships
01:34 The Power of Networking and Social Media
02:37 Recognition and Achievements
03:36 Unique Approach to Client Engagement
08:28 Challenges and Learnings in Consulting
11:15 Effective Business Development Strategies
15:51 Genuine Interest and Relationship Building
18:00 Adapting Solutions Based on Client Needs
20:12 The Ever-Changing Nature of Consulting
21:56 The Role of AI in Consulting
25:33 Advice for Aspiring Consultants
28:37 Building Client Relationships
36:11 The Importance of Continuous Learning
38:05 Conclusion and Contact Information
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Creating a Sales Culture in Professional Services
I recently had the privilege of interviewing John Howard, a veteran in the consulting industry with nearly 30 years of experience. John led an MBO at Channel 3 Consulting before moving to Garwood Growth, where he now helps professional services businesses navigate growth, operational improvement, and value realisation.
Our conversation covered everything from building trust with clients to managing founder transitions. Here are the key insights from our discussion:
The Foundation of Business Development in Consulting: Trust and Relationships
"BD and consulting is really about relationships and it's about really, really listening and letting the client lead you to what the pain point is."
At its core, business development in consulting isn't about aggressive sales tactics. It's about building trust through genuine relationships. John emphasises that clients need to feel you're there for their interests, not just your own. This requires authentic interactions and a willingness to walk away when you can't help.
The Art of Listening: How to Uncover Client Pain Points
The most successful consultants keep their "mouth closed and listen a lot."
John stresses that sales isn't about dominating conversations but exploring client challenges and adding value through thoughtful discussion.
Only after understanding the problem should you generate ideas and offer opinions. This approach ensures solutions actually address real needs rather than presumed ones.
From Founder-Led to Team-Driven: Transitioning Business Development
Many consultancies face a critical transition point: moving from founder-led sales to a broader team approach. At Channel 3, John helped navigate this challenge when preparing for private equity investment.
The process included:
* Identifying core team members who would stay beyond the transaction
* Building sales capability across the organisation
* Recruiting people with an interest in growth and client development
Creating a Sales Culture in Professional Services
One major obstacle John encountered was the perception that "sales was a dirty word" among consultants who loved delivery but feared business development.
His team addressed this through sales training that focused less on process and more on mindset.
The key message?
Sales is about conversations, relationships and understanding—skills most consultants already possess.
Managing Networks and Referrals for Sustained Growth
Networks are the lifeblood of consulting, but many professionals struggle with systematic network management. John admits he became more disciplined about this later in his career.
His advice is refreshingly practical:
"Nobody's going to be offended because you ask how they're doing." For consultants who don't naturally maintain connections, he recommends creating systems to prompt regular outreach.
Setting Effective Targets: Balancing Team Goals with Individual Accountability
On the thorny subject of sales targets, John advocates for a balanced approach:
"It's a team sport with individual accountabilities."
While the team needs a collective goal, individuals must feel personally accountable for their contribution. Most importantly, when someone is struggling to meet targets, they should flag it early so the business can adapt—rather than making promises that don't materialise.
Key Person Dependency: A Critical Risk in Consulting Businesses
When I asked about lessons from mistakes, John highlighted the danger of over-reliance on key individuals:
"If you're leading a business, you can become too reliant on key people."
This dependency creates vulnerability when someone leaves or when their particular market experiences a downturn. Diversification of people, markets, and service offering, helps provide essential resilience.
Preparing for Capital Events: Aligning Shareholders and Building Value
With Garwood Growth, John now helps professional services firms prepare for capital events like private equity investment or trade sales.
A crucial first step is shareholder alignment: "Are they, as the owners of the business, clear on what they want to achieve with the asset and what the business needs to look like to achieve that?"
Without this alignment, preparations for any transaction are built on shaky foundations.
Navigating Consulting Business Inflection Points
John's current work focuses on helping firms navigate various inflection points:
* When founders want to step back or exit
* When delivery capacity can't keep up with sales
* When market conditions create growth challenges
* When expanding internationally requires new operating models
In each case, "the thing that has been really successful up to now is starting to creak a bit," requiring fresh thinking and sometimes external perspective.
Overcoming the Fear of Sales Conversations
Perhaps most relatable was John's personal story about overcoming his fear of sales conversations earlier in his career. As an introvert, he found cold calling "terrifying" initially.
With coaching and practice, he discovered that meaningful relationships could develop even through purely telephone interactions.
The lesson?
Sales apprehension is normal, but can be overcome with support and experience.
Final Thoughts
What struck me most about my conversation with John was his emphasis on authenticity and integrity throughout the business development process. Whether discussing target setting, founder transitions, or sales culture, he consistently returned to the importance of honest dialogue and authentic connection.
For consultants at any stag, from founders planning their exit to newcomers terrified of their first client call, this human-centred approach offers both reassurance and a practical blueprint for growth.
If you found these insights valuable, please share this newsletter with colleagues wrestling with similar challenges. And if you'd like to connect with John directly, you can reach him at john.howard@garwoodgrowth.com or find him on LinkedIn.
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