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In this episode, we explore how internet governance really works, who stands behind decisions on safety, access, and regulation — and why access to the internet does not equal equality.

Guests of the episode:

🔹 Dr. Ibiso Kingsley-George — internet governance and digital policy expert, mentor at the Women in GovTech Challenge

🔹 Amina Ramallan — cybersecurity and internet governance professional, participant of the Women in GovTech Challenge

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In this episode, Tuntufye Mwamlimina Ntaukira, Digital Governance Analyst at United Nations Development Programme (Malawi), and Oleksandr Iefremov, CEO of Kitsoft, discuss how digital public services are built in practice — from idea to prototype and real-world impact — what happens behind the scenes of the Women in GovTech Challenge, why strong GovTech solutions often fail, and what it actually takes to turn ideas into working systems.

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What separates countries that succeed in digital government transformation from those that don't?

In this episode, Oleksandr Iefremov, CEO of Kitsoft, and Daniel Korski — one of the key pioneers of GovTech in Europe, former advisor to UK Prime Minister David Cameron discuss how Diia built trust in a country where trust in government has never been high, why Europe is divided between vanguards and laggards, and what it really takes to drive change.

"If the Ukrainians can do this at war, what can you do at peace?"

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