Explore every episode of the podcast Co-Op Heroes: Stories from Electric Utility Operators
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| 016: Members as Energy Producers: Flathead Electric Cooperative's Net Metering Success Story (with Doug Gilmore) | 23 Dec 2025 | 00:22:45 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, we sit down with Doug Gilmore, Power Resources Manager at Flathead Electric Cooperative in Kalispell, Montana, to explore how one cooperative turned a complex challenge into an innovative opportunity. Flathead Electric serves one of the fastest-growing regions in the country. Kalispell was recently voted the fastest-growing micropolitan city in the United States. In just five years, the cooperative added 8,300 meters while facing another challenge: members were asking to install their own solar systems and feed power back to the grid. The easy answer would have been "no." Instead, Doug and his team asked three questions: What do our members want? How can we enable that? What guardrails do we need? The result was a thoughtfully-designed net metering policy that balances member autonomy with system reliability. Rather than simply reacting, Flathead Electric created six key policy components that serve the cooperative's needs while giving members what they want. Flathead is proving that innovation and safety can coexist, and they now manage nearly 300 (and growing) net metering applications annually. Featured topics:
Doug shares how the cooperative principles of member ownership, democratic governance, and the willingness to collaborate create space for thoughtful innovation. When you work for a utility where neighbors are members, decisions take on deeper meaning. When you're part of a network of co-ops across the country willing to share best practices, everyone gets smarter. This is a story about embracing complexity, serving members well, and how cooperatives thrive by thinking outside the box while staying true to their core values. The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators: the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered and served. | |||
| 015: The Nuclear Opportunity: How Wolverine Power Cooperative Seized an Unprecedented Moment (with Zach Anderson) | 09 Dec 2025 | 00:17:28 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, we sit down with Zach Anderson, Chief Operating Officer of Wolverine Power Cooperative, to discuss one of the most significant achievements in cooperative energy history: the restart of the Palisades Nuclear Generating Station. When Palisades entered decommissioning status, it seemed like a closed chapter. But Wolverine Power Cooperative and their partner Hoosier Energy saw something different: an unprecedented opportunity to secure carbon-free baseload power that could serve their members for decades. What followed was a bold move that had never been successfully executed in the United States: bringing a nuclear plant that was going to be decommissioned back online. The cooperative difference shines through this story. Unlike investor-owned utilities that must seek board approval and navigate complex profit motives, Wolverine's member-owned structure allowed leadership to move quickly and decisively. When Holtec, the plant's owner, needed three things: NRC approval, DOE loan support, and a committed power partner, Wolverine stepped up. That partnership became the catalyst for the entire project, ultimately securing long-term contracts for 100% of Palisades' output. Featured topics:
Zach shares how Wolverine's decision to secure this abundant, carbon-free power source leaves the cooperative in its strongest position in nearly 80 years. The impact cascades through the entire cooperative network: members get price stability, clean energy, and reliability, while the state gains crucial decarbonization leadership. This is cooperation in action, where bold decisions by one G&T benefit the distribution co-ops and consumers it serves. | |||
| 006: Beyond Borders: How Indiana Co-Ops Are Electrifying Rural Guatemala (with Mandy Barth - IEC) | 05 Aug 2025 | 00:23:12 | |
In this inspiring episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, host Pablo Fuentes sits down with Mandy Barth, Vice President of Communication at Indiana Electric Cooperatives (IEC), to explore an extraordinary international mission that has been transforming lives for over a decade. What began as a one-time project in 2012 to celebrate the UN's International Year of the Cooperative has evolved into Project Indiana—a sustained effort to bring electricity to remote Guatemalan villages that have never had power. Mandy shares how Indiana became the first state to send an all-state team on an international electrification project, working alongside NRECA International to light up communities in Guatemala's mountains. Key Highlights:
Ongoing Impact:
Mandy explains how this work has transformed the Indiana linemen who participate, with many saying it changed their perspective on gratitude and family priorities. The episode showcases how electric cooperatives extend their mission of community service far beyond their traditional service territories.
Learn more about Project Indiana at projectindiana.org | |||
| 005: Delivering Life-Enhancing Services: Beyond the Power Lines | 22 Jul 2025 | 00:15:53 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, hosts Pablo Fuentes (CEO of Bloom Spatial) and James Tanneberger (CEO of South Central Indiana REMC) explore how electric cooperatives go beyond traditional utility services to improve their members' lives. James shares South Central Indiana REMC's mission to "improve the lives of our members" and how this philosophy has led them to provide services that investor-owned utilities typically don't offer. The conversation covers their journey from early dial-up internet services in rural Texas to their current $100+ million fiber-to-the-home project serving over 12,000 users. Services discussed:
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James explains how the cooperative structure allows them to take calculated risks on services that improve member lives, even when the immediate financial return isn't guaranteed. The episode highlights how electric cooperatives often become innovators in rural service delivery, filling gaps that other providers won't address. Whether you're interested in cooperative business models, rural infrastructure development, or utility innovation, this episode demonstrates how mission-driven organizations can expand their impact beyond their core services. | |||
| 004: Manager on Call: The Day the Line Exploded | 08 Jul 2025 | 00:13:08 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, hosts Pablo Fuentes (CEO of Bloom Spatial) and James Tanneberger (CEO of South Central Indiana REMC) explore real-world utility emergency response through personal experience. James recounts his early days as an electrical engineer when he was assigned to the "manager on call" rotation. During a severe storm, a 69kV transmission line took a lightning strike and, instead of safely tripping as designed, the line exploded—destroying 30 spans of critical transmission infrastructure and leaving scattered aluminum fragments across the landscape. What you'll learn:
Key Lesson: James shares an important leadership principle he learned that night: "Call too many people too soon, rather than too few, too late"—a philosophy that has shaped his approach to emergency response throughout his career. This episode offers insights into the challenges and decision-making that utility operators face during emergency situations. Whether you work in the utility industry or are interested in infrastructure and emergency response, this story provides a practical look at how electric cooperatives maintain reliable service for their communities. | |||
| 003: Surviving 2023: Tornadoes, Derechos, and a Global Crisis to Boot | 24 Jun 2025 | 00:16:41 | |
2023 was supposed to be a manageable year for SCI-REMC. Instead, it became a masterclass in crisis management when two of the worst weather events in the co-op's history struck within three months of each other. In this episode, James Tanneberger walks us through the devastating tornado outbreak in late March that left 12,000 members without power, followed by an even more destructive derecho in June that knocked out service to over half their territory – 18,000 members – in just 10 minutes. But Mother Nature wasn't finished: the global energy crisis triggered by the Russia-Ukraine war simultaneously drove wholesale power costs through the roof, forcing rate increases after a decade of stable pricing. James shares the tactical details of managing 36 restoration crews simultaneously, the critical role of "bird dogs" and damage assessors, and why sometimes the fastest way to restore power is to resist the urge to rush into dangerous conditions. He reveals how $30 million in underground line investments paid dividends during the crisis and why the co-op now views these catastrophic events as proof they can handle anything. Beyond the operational lessons, this episode explores how extreme adversity can forge organizational resilience and why thinking "outside the box" isn't just a business strategy – it's survival for modern electric cooperatives facing an increasingly unpredictable world. | |||
| 002: Winnebago to the Rescue: When Electric Utilities Get Creative During a Crisis | 24 Jun 2025 | 00:13:45 | |
What happens when a hurricane threatens to flood your electric utility's control center and you have just 12 hours to evacuate? For James Tannenberger and his team during Hurricane Rita in 2005, the answer was a 1997 Winnebago converted into a mobile backup operations center. In this episode, James shares the harrowing story of their 32-hour journey from Houston to Fort Worth – a drive that should have taken 3.5 hours – as 1.5 million people fled Hurricane Rita's path simultaneously. Armed with a mechanically-questionable RV that had previously served as the company's marketing vehicle, James and his colleague faced overheating engines, mysteriously engaging parking brakes, and the challenge of staying awake during stop-and-go traffic that barely reached 20 mph. Beyond the adventure story, this episode reveals the dedication and "expedition mindset" that drives electric utility workers during crisis situations. James discusses the culture of mutual support that allows utility employees to handle personal responsibilities during normal times while knowing they'll drop everything when the grid needs them. | |||
| 001: Beyond the Bunny Hop: SCI-REMC's Path to Improving Member Satisfaction | 24 Jun 2025 | 00:21:05 | |
When James Tanneberger became CEO of SCI-REMC, his co-op ranked 17th out of 18 electric cooperatives in Southern Indiana for member satisfaction, with a score of just 68 out of 100. Eight years later, that score has climbed to 74 and continues rising. In this episode, James shares the innovative strategies that transformed his co-op's relationship with its members, from deploying fiber-to-the-home technology that enables remote outage management to ditching expensive annual meetings in favor of connecting with members at county fairs complete with deep-fried Twinkies and "bunny hop" electrical safety demonstrations. | |||
| 000: Co-Op Heroes: Introduction | 24 Jun 2025 | 00:02:50 | |
Welcome to the show! Hosts James Tanneberger and Pablo Fuentes give a quick overview of the show. We will share stories and interviews with utility operators, highlighting the trials and triumphs of the people who bring power to our homes and businesses. | |||
| 014: Storytelling as a Bridge: How Hoosier Energy is Connecting the Next Generation to the Cooperative Difference (with Chad Mertz) | 25 Nov 2025 | 00:28:11 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, hosts Pablo Fuentes and James Tanneberger sit down with Chad Mertz, Vice President of Strategic Communications at Hoosier Energy to explore the challenge facing the entire cooperative movement: communicating with the next generation. Chad dives into the creative solution that's changing how communities understand the difference co-ops make. Hoosier Energy is a Generation and Transmission cooperative, one of 45 G&T co-ops across the country that provide the backbone of power supply and transmission for member cooperatives like South Central Indiana REMC. When Chad joined Hoosier Energy four years ago, board members and member CEOs raised an urgent concern: younger people simply didn't understand what a cooperative was or why it mattered. The numbers told the story. A survey revealed a stark generational divide: 93% of adults over 65 had a positive perception of co-ops, while that number dropped dramatically with each younger demographic, creating what Chad calls "a diagonal line" of declining awareness. Recruiting young talent became difficult. Events lacked young attendees. The cooperative message wasn't reaching the generations that already aligned with co-op values, whether they knew it or not. Rather than resort to traditional advertising, Chad's team recognized something powerful: young people are naturally attracted to cooperatives because of their values: local decision-making, democratic governance, and reinvested margins instead of corporate profits. These values reflect what Gen Z and Millennials actually believe in, they just didn't know co-ops embodied those ideals. Featured topics:
Discover how the cooperative movement thrives when people understand the real difference it makes, not through selling, but through authentic stories that reveal the human side of community service. This is how you bridge the gap between mission and market, between legacy and future. The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work around the clock to power and serve our communities. | |||
| 013: The Brotherhood Above: The Indiana Lineman Rodeo with Tommy Nance of Ninestar Connect and IEC | 11 Nov 2025 | 00:18:39 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, host Pablo Fuentes heads to the Hendricks County Fairgrounds to speak with Tommy Nance, VP of Operations at NineStar Connect, about the fourth annual Indiana Lineman Rodeo, an event born from a simple vision that has become a beacon for community for linemen across the state. Five years ago, during the height of COVID, Tommy and fellow cooperative leaders asked themselves an important question: what if Indiana's electric cooperatives created their own space where linemen could safely showcase their skills, network with peers, and let their families finally see what they do every single day? The result is a day of intense competition where linemen face timed challenges like: bucket truck rescues, transforming heavy equipment, and "hurt man rescue" drills. But beneath the competitions lies something deeper: the chance for families to witness the danger, precision, and brotherhood that defines this profession. Featured topics:
Tommy shares how the cooperative spirit thrives when linemen see each other beyond the apprenticeship classroom, and when families understand why their loved ones miss birthdays and work Christmas. This is a story about competitive excellence serving a bigger purpose: connecting the people who keep our communities powered. You can learn more about the Indiana Lineman Rodeo at https://www.indianaec.org/safety/indiana-electric-cooperative-lineman-rodeo/ --- The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work around the clock to keep our communities safe.
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| 012: 10,000 Pounds of Ice: How Great Lakes Energy Survived an Unprecedented Ice Storm (with Shaun Lamp) | 28 Oct 2025 | 00:30:02 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, host Pablo Fuentes sits down with Shaun Lamp, President and CEO of Great Lakes Energy, to hear firsthand accounts of how crews and community members responded to one of Michigan's most devastating natural disasters in recent memory. When a once-in-a-century ice storm struck in March 2025, Great Lakes Energy's 14,000-mile system faced unprecedented challenges. With up to three inches of ice coating their infrastructure (six times more than design specifications), lineworkers didn't just restore power, they became first responders and community heroes. They cut their way through impassable roads to reach stranded members, many facing dangerously cold homes without heat. Featured stories include: - Lineworkers who left spring break vacations to answer their community's call - Crews strategically positioning themselves in treacherous conditions to clear obstacles - The powerful "My Daddy's a Line Worker" campaign that celebrated the families supporting these essential workers - Critical safety lessons about generator installation and use that protect both homeowners and crews Shaun shares how the cooperative difference shone through during the crisis. Employees who didn't just complete assigned tasks but actively cared for the members and families they serve. He also highlights the collaboration between neighboring cooperatives and the shared commitment to learning and supporting one another across the industry. This is a story about resilience, sacrifice, and the everyday heroes who show up for their communities when everything is on the line. --- Great Lakes Energy can be found at https://www.gtlakes.com/ Great Lakes Energy YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@greatlakesenergy Weather Channel Ice Storm interview with Shaun Lamp : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su0SOv8Jv4E | |||
| 011: Box? What Box? How Co-Ops Think Outside Traditional Boundaries | 14 Oct 2025 | 00:19:32 | |
In this forward-thinking episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, hosts Pablo Fuentes (CEO of Bloom Spatial) and James Tanneberger (CEO of South Central Indiana REMC) explore what makes electric cooperatives uniquely positioned to innovate and push boundaries that investor-owned utilities often cannot. James explains how his perception of electric cooperatives completely changed when he entered the industry eight years ago. Rather than the "sleepy organizations" he imagined, he discovered dynamic institutions driven by a single mission: improve the lives of our members. This mission, combined with cooperative structure, creates unique advantages for innovation. The cooperative innovation advantage:
Real-world examples: James shares how Indiana cooperatives transformed the state's connectivity landscape. When state leaders trusted co-ops to bridge the digital divide, 25 out of 38 utilities built fiber networks. But cooperatives didn't stop there...30 organizations connected their networks to create Accord, a regional data superhighway that moved Indiana from 32nd to top 5 nationally in connectivity. This model expanded nationally through Tapestry, now supporting 12 states. Managing innovation risk: James outlines his approach to risk management: only pursue opportunities where the downside risk is minimal but the upside could be transformational. He shares the story of building a fiber connection to a regional hub that seemed like a modest efficiency gain but opened unexpected doors, including a partnership with Indiana's I-light network that more than paid for the entire project. The next big opportunity: The episode reveals an emerging opportunity that could reshape rural economic development: distributed data centers. As mega data centers face community opposition due to massive power consumption (200-500 megawatts) and water usage, cooperatives have identified an alternative model. With substations typically running at 50% capacity and fiber already connecting their networks, co-ops can deploy smaller 10-megawatt data centers on 1-3 acres without water consumption or major infrastructure upgrades. This distributed approach offers multiple benefits: it's less disruptive to communities, utilizes existing capacity, improves co-op load profiles by adding consistent daytime consumption to balance residential peaks, and positions rural America as a competitive player in the AI economy. Key insight: James argues that for cooperatives serving heavily forested territories with reliability challenges, the greater risk is not innovating. Standing still means accepting poor reliability and high rates, while calculated innovation creates paths to better serve members. This episode challenges the perception of cooperatives as traditional utilities and reveals them as innovation leaders tackling some of rural America's biggest infrastructure challenges. The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators: the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered. | |||
| 010: The Hooded Llama Award: Tales from Vegetation Management Heroes | 30 Sep 2025 | 00:21:31 | |
In this special roundtable episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, we sit down with five co-op vegetation management leaders at the Trees and Utilities Show in Knoxville, Tennessee. Each person shared a story about the heroic actions and the community impact of their vegetation management team. Featured Guests:
Stories Shared: Anthony introduces the "Hooded Llama Award," an internal recognition for crew members who go above and beyond, inspired by a Matanuska crew rescuing a llama with a feed bag stuck on its head during subzero weather. Cindy recounts how a tree crew saved an elderly woman's life after spotting her in a ditch during a routine trim job. The crew had repositioned their bucket truck multiple times that day, and only from that specific angle could they see the barefoot woman who had wandered from her home. The story demonstrates both divine timing and the quick thinking of crews working through interpreters. Kevin discusses the increasing volume of member calls about dead trees in Colorado, with requests jumping from 3-4 per week to 8 per day, and recognizes a utility forester on his team for his dedication to responding to every member concern. Amanda shares the emotional story of his veg management administrator, who arrived for a scheduled appointment to find a member unconscious in his bathroom. Despite performing life-saving measures, the member did not survive, but Kyle's presence provided crucial support to the family during a difficult moment. Jeff tells two stories: first, how his tree crew rallied around a young lineman's girlfriend after his sudden death, moving her entire household back to her family in southern Colorado; and second, about an old-school line superintendent who showed up after work to help dig footers for Jeff's father's garage. Key Themes: The episode illustrates how vegetation management crews serve as eyes and ears in their communities, often being the first responders in emergencies simply by being present in rural areas. The stories demonstrate the cooperative difference, employees who don't just complete their assigned tasks but actively care for the communities they serve. This roundtable format captures the collaborative spirit of the Trees and Utilities Show and the broader utility arborist community, where co-ops regularly share best practices and support one another across regional boundaries. For more information about the Utility Arborist Association and regional events, visit uaa.org The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered. | |||
| 009: Innovation and Public Entrepreneurship: Building Community Wealth Through Cooperatives (with Keith Taylor - UC Davis) | 16 Sep 2025 | 00:26:37 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, host Pablo Fuentes sits down with Keith Taylor, Professor of Economic Development at UC Davis and self-described "People's Professor," to explore how electric cooperatives are leading innovation in rural America. Keith shares the remarkable story of Anza Electric Cooperative in Southern California, which defied industry experts who claimed rural broadband deployment was impossible at reasonable costs. While incumbent telcos insisted it would cost $300,000 per mile to lay fiber, Anza accomplished the same task for just $30,000 per mile, a 90% cost reduction that has inspired cooperatives and community choice aggregators across the country. Key Insights Discussed:
Academic Perspective: Drawing from his book "Governing the Wind Energy Commons" and extensive fieldwork, Keith explains how cooperatives create community wealth, overcome political divisions, and provide stability in essential services. He discusses his research comparing cooperative-owned versus investor-owned wind farms. Future Vision: The conversation explores Keith's work developing the Institute for Cooperative and Civic Innovation at UC Davis, which aims to foster international collaboration and help cooperatives compete in an increasingly concentrated economy. From platform cooperatives to employee stock ownership plans, Keith outlines how the cooperative model can address modern economic challenges. This episode offers both inspiration from successful cooperative innovation and academic analysis of why the cooperative business model remains relevant in today's economy. Essential listening for anyone interested in rural development, cooperative theory, or community-driven solutions to economic challenges. Contact Keith Taylor at keitaylor@ucdavis.edu or learn more about his work at UC Davis's Institute for Cooperative and Civic Innovation. Keith's book "Governing the Wind Energy Commons" can be found at https://wvupressonline.com/node/782 Other contacts and resources from this episode: Kevin Short, General Manager, Anza Electric Cooperative - kevins@anzaelectric.org Shawn Trento, Telecommunications Manager, Anza Electric Cooperative - shawnt@anzaelectric.org Jessica Nelson, General Manager of Golden State Power Cooperative - goldenstatepowercooperative@gmail.com Gina Schaefer, Ace Hardware, https://ginaschaefer.com/
The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators: the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered. | |||
| 008: From Tragedy to Teaching Safety: Chuck Tiemann's Inspiring Story | 02 Sep 2025 | 00:30:39 | |
In this powerful episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, host Pablo Fuentes sits down with Chuck Tiemann, the legendary safety instructor known throughout the electric cooperative world for his uncompromising dedication to lineman safety. Speaking from the Indiana Lineman Rodeo, Chuck shares his remarkable journey from a life-changing accident to becoming one of the industry's most impactful safety advocates. On May 1, 1980, Chuck was severely burned in an electrical accident that cost him his left arm and right leg. Rather than letting this tragedy end his career in rural electrification, Chuck transformed his experience into a mission to prevent similar accidents from happening to others. After working to master prosthetics and exploring other careers, he returned to the electric utility industry in 1996 as a safety instructor with a clear goal: reduce electrical contacts to zero. Chuck's Impact by the Numbers:
Key Safety Insights: Chuck discusses the evolution of safety equipment, the psychology of complacency, and why the 8-12 year experience range represents the highest risk period for linemen. He explains critical procedures like equipotential grounding, the importance of testing for present voltage, and the life-saving practice of applying water to electrical burns within 90 seconds. The human element: Beyond technical safety procedures, Chuck emphasizes the importance of character, honest communication, and never becoming comfortable with dangerous work. His approach of speaking directly to linemen, even throwing his prosthetic hand across the room to make a point, has created lasting impact on safety culture throughout the industry. Chuck's story demonstrates how personal tragedy can be transformed into a force for protecting others. His dedication to visiting cooperatives one-on-one, building relationships with crews, and speaking truth about safety risks has saved lives and influenced an entire generation of electrical workers. Contact Chuck Tiemann at 256-874-5783 for safety training programs. The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered. | |||
| 007: Turn Around, Don't Drown: Water Safety and Survival for Utility Workers | 19 Aug 2025 | 00:18:28 | |
In this sobering episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, hosts Pablo Fuentes (CEO of Bloom Spatial) and James Tanneberger (CEO of South Central Indiana REMC) share a harrowing story that illustrates why water safety is a critical concern for utility workers. James recounts a near-tragic incident from his time in Texas, where two substation maintenance workers faced a life-threatening situation during the aftermath of a tornado. When one employee received a panicked call from his wife about a tornado hitting their neighborhood, the crew's urgent attempt to return home led them into a flooded low-water crossing. What seemed like a manageable situation quickly turned dangerous when their truck became a boat in rising floodwater. Key lessons covered:
Safety insights: The episode explores the deceptive nature of floodwater and why "turn around, don't drown" isn't just a catchy slogan, it's a life-saving principle. James shares additional stories from Texas flooding events and discusses how cooperatives are partnering with local communities to improve severe weather preparedness, including expanding tornado warning systems. Technology and prevention: The conversation touches on emerging technologies for natural disaster management, including fiber optic sensing and improved weather awareness systems that help utilities and communities prepare for severe weather events. This episode serves as both a compelling rescue story and an important safety reminder for anyone who works outdoors or lives in areas prone to flooding. The emphasis on weather awareness and community preparedness makes this essential listening for utility workers and rural residents alike. | |||
| 030: Shrinking the Footprint: The Future of Co-op Data Centers (with James Tanneberger) | 07 Jul 2026 | 00:18:33 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, Pablo Fuentes sits down with James Tanneberger, CEO of South Central Indiana REMC, to talk about a subject that gets more contentious by the month: electric cooperatives and data centers. Tanneberg makes the case that the mega load data centers people love to hate are already being replaced by something smaller, quieter, and a lot more useful to the communities hosting them. Most people picture a data center the same way: 300 to 500 acres, seven buildings at a billion dollars apiece, millions of gallons of water running through and back out into a river. That picture is a year or two out of date. Tanneberger has spent the last year studying what comes next, and what he has found is that the technology is shrinking fast. Closed cycle cooling instead of continuous water flow. Denser GPUs in smaller footprints. Modular units that fit in shipping containers and could sit inside the fence of a substation. The conversation goes past the buildings themselves and into what a data center can actually do for a co-op. Tanneberger's system is 98 percent residential, which means the co-op buys power at the two most expensive times of day, morning and evening, when everyone is home. A data center runs flat, all day, every day. Pair the two load curves and the co-op ends up buying more power when it's cheap, which brings costs down instead of up. Some of these smaller sites can even be set up as load modifying resources, meaning the co-op can shift a data center over to backup generation during a grid emergency and sell that flexibility back to the system operator. Revenue that didn't exist before, going straight into things like underground line conversions. Featured topics:
Tanneberger isn't arguing that data centers are good or bad. He's arguing that the version most people are picturing is already becoming outdated, and that co-ops who understand the shift early have a real chance to turn an unpopular trend into a benefit for their members. This is a conversation about reading where an industry is headed before the rest of the room catches up. | |||
| 029: From the Spray Crew to the Staking Truck: Family Legacy, Hurricane Katrina, and Nearly 30 Years of Co-op Line Work (with Dale Kaufman) | 23 Jun 2026 | 00:20:34 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Dale Kaufman, Staking Technician at Southern Indiana Power, recorded live at the Indiana Electric Cooperatives Safety and Operations Meeting in Noblesville, Indiana. He makes the case that staking is equal parts engineering, diplomacy, and institutional memory, and that the hardest part of his job has never been running wire. Most people outside the industry have never heard the word staking. Dale Kaufman has spent nearly 30 years doing it. What he has learned is that the technical side, the spans and the framing and the cost comparisons, is straightforward once you understand the system. What is never straightforward is getting a farmer to let you cut a tree or a landowner to sign an easement. That is where the job actually lives. Dale came to the co-op world the long way. His father was a lineman for a city municipal, and watching him work planted a seed early. When his father became disabled and could no longer hold a CDL, Dale made it his goal to carry that work forward. He got his foot in the door on a spray crew in 1996, making notes on broken strands and overgrown lines while he waited for his shot. Two years later, Southern Indiana Power called. He has been there since 1998. In that time he has worked Hurricane Katrina restoration in Pascagoula, Mississippi, wading through chest-high black water with a chainsaw and water moccasins that were not afraid of him. He has watched co-ops move from paper maps to full GIS inventory with pole photos and GPS backpacks. He has priced out overhead versus underground on jobs where the two options came within $10,000 of each other and the right answer still depended on factors a spreadsheet could not capture. Featured topics:
Dale is not describing a job. He is describing a career built on showing up, knowing the system better than anyone in the room, and understanding that the people on the other side of an easement conversation are not obstacles. They are members. That distinction shapes everything about how he works. This is a conversation about what nearly three decades at a co-op looks like when you knew at 12 years old where you wanted to be, and you spent the rest of your life earning your way there. | |||
| 020: From Paper to Platform: A Cooperative Story of Digital Innovation and Grit (with Amanda Opp) | 17 Feb 2026 | 00:20:35 | |
In this episode of The Co Op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Amanda Opp, Integrated Services Manager at Flathead Electric Cooperative. She shares how an internal operational challenge became a homegrown digital solution, and what that journey reveals about innovation the cooperative way. Most co ops do not set out to become software builders. They are focused on keeping the lights on, serving members, and doing more with limited resources. But when Amanda could not find a system that worked for vegetation management in the field, she did what co ops have always done. She built one. Starting with a simple goal, moving tree crews from paper maps to a digital workflow, Amanda led an eight year evolution. The result transformed how work is tracked, how crews communicate, and how members experience vegetation management with no surprises. Amanda's story begins far from a corner office. She started as a cashier at the co op and worked her way into managing tree crews, learning firsthand how field operations really function. With creative freedom, a GIS background, and constant feedback from boots on the ground crews, she designed a system that prioritized clarity, safety, and usability. Simple visual cues replaced confusion. Incremental changes replaced disruption. Trust replaced resistance. Along the way, Amanda learned the balance every builder must strike. Be bold enough to create something new, and humble enough to change it when it does not work. That same humility now guides her as she steps back, hands the system to fresh eyes, and turns her focus to another growing challenge, wildfire mitigation in Montana. Featured topics • How co ops turn internal problems into practical digital solutions Amanda shares how building this system shaped her as a leader and why the same cooperative principles that electrified rural America still drive innovation today. When co ops trust their people, listen closely, and are willing to jump in and learn by doing, they do not just solve problems. They create solutions others can build on. This is a story about rolling up your sleeves, taking a few knocks, and proving that some of the most impactful innovation comes from co ops solving problems for their members. The Co Op Heroes Podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work every day to keep our communities powered, safe, and connected. | |||
| 019: 400 Letters and a Senate Victory: The Story of How Rural Co-ops Stopped a Regressive Tax (with John Cassady) | 03 Feb 2026 | 00:28:14 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, we sit down with John Cassady, CEO of Indiana Electric Cooperatives, to explore how one grassroots advocacy campaign stopped a regressive tax increase that would have blindsided rural communities, and what this fight reveals about defending people who don't know they need a champion. Most people don't spend their days reading legislative proposals or tracking tax code changes. They're working, raising families, trying to make ends meet. But while they're living their lives, decisions are being made at the statehouse that could dramatically increase their electric bills. By the time they find out, it's too late. That's where advocates like John come in, serving as the eyes, ears, and voice for communities that don't know what's coming. Early in his career, John faced a defining challenge. Ohio's governor proposed a sweeping tax reform package designed to help the business community. Buried in the details was a dramatic increase to the kilowatt hour tax, a regressive tax that would hit rural electric consumers the hardest. The proposal had the backing of the governor, legislative leadership, and one-party control of the statehouse. When John raised concerns, the Speaker of the House essentially told him to pound salt. What happened next is a masterclass in grassroots advocacy. John hit the road, meeting co-op leaders in their offices and at local diners, building trust and conveying urgency. He helped CEOs translate abstract policy language into real impacts. A tax increase became "$60 more per month on your electric bill." That got people's attention. Featured topics:
John explains how this early victory shaped his entire career and taught him the power of helping others find their own voice in the political process. When people come together for the right reasons and bring their voice to the table, change is possible. And when you're fighting for something bigger than yourself, for member consumers who rely on affordable electricity, the mission becomes deeply personal. This is a story about fighting battles rural communities don't see coming, empowering people to engage in a process that often feels distant and dysfunctional, and the enduring power of the cooperative mission to serve the common good. The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered and served. | |||
| 018: More Than Trees: How One Forester Saved a Life While Managing Vegetation (with David Formella) | 20 Jan 2026 | 00:20:03 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, we sit down with David Formella, utility forester at Southside Electric Cooperative in Virginia, to explore what happens when trees, power lines, and people intersect in unexpected ways. David brings a unique background to utility forestry: a degree in natural resource conservation from Virginia Tech, military service as a Marine, and experience as an EMT. When he arrived at Southside Electric, he discovered that being a utility forester means wearing countless hats, from vegetation management and storm restoration to emergency response and member education. The stories David shares reveal the human side of keeping the lights on. One day, he went to address a member's complaint about tree removal and ended up calling 911 when the member had a medical emergency. During a helicopter aerial trimming operation, a horse broke loose and went running down the road. Beyond the dramatic moments lie the daily challenges of balancing member concerns about beloved trees with the critical need to maintain safe, reliable power delivery. What emerges is a portrait of cooperative work that goes far beyond job descriptions. It's about being present in your community, caring about members as people, and being ready to help however needed, whether that's preventing outages, bird-dogging for mutual aid crews during storms, or simply being there when someone needs help. Featured topics:
David's experience shows that working at an electric cooperative isn't just about technical expertise. It's about embodying the cooperative principle that caring about people comes first, even when that means stepping outside your role to help a member in crisis. The same mindset that drives vegetation management to keep communities safe extends to every interaction, creating the foundation of trust that makes the cooperative model work. When you work for a utility where neighbors are members, you can't just be a forester managing trees. You have to be ready for anything, from medical emergencies to livestock on the loose. David's stories remind us that the cooperative difference isn't found in policies or procedures, but in the willingness to show up, care deeply, and do whatever it takes to serve the community. The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators: the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered and served. | |||
| 017: The Unlikely AI Pioneer: How Dairyland Power Cooperative Made Artificial Intelligence into a Cooperative Advantage (with Nate Melby) | 06 Jan 2026 | 00:19:09 | |
In this episode of The Co-Op Heroes podcast, we sit down with Nate Melby, VP and Chief Information Officer at Dairyland Power Cooperative, to explore how an electric cooperative became an unlikely pioneer in artificial intelligence, and how that innovation is now spreading across the cooperative movement. When Nate arrived at Dairyland Power, a Generation and Transmission cooperative, he brought an unexpected background: a PhD in Information Systems and experience with deep learning research in academic laboratories. In 2018, while most industries were still experimenting with AI, Dairyland began building machine learning models to optimize load management and system efficiency. The journey evolved into something bigger. What started as internal experimentation became VoltWrite, Dairyland's proprietary AI solution. But the real innovation was to not keep the technology to themselves. Following the core cooperative principle of collaboration, Dairyland began sharing VoltWrite with other cooperatives. Today, it's a nationwide service helping electric co-ops across the country work smarter, faster, and more efficiently. Nate shares the real challenges of bringing AI to an industry skeptical of new technology. The technical barriers proved manageable. The human factor (overcoming doubt, building trust with early adopters, helping skeptics become believers) required patience, board-level support, and demonstrable results. Featured topics:
Nate explains how cooperatives, constrained by limited resources, are uniquely positioned to benefit from AI. When you work for a utility where every efficiency gain directly serves members, the incentive to innovate becomes clear. And when cooperatives collaborate rather than compete, those innovations ripple across the entire network. This is a story about leadership, courage in the face of uncertainty, and how the cooperative principle of working together for greater good extends into the age of artificial intelligence. The Co-Op Heroes podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work around the clock to keep our communities powered and served. | |||
| 028: From the Pulpit to the Pole: Accountability, Vulnerability, and the Human Side of Safety (with Jamie Conn) | 09 Jun 2026 | 00:19:52 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Jamie Conn, Safety Coordinator at Blue grass Energy in Nicholasville, Kentucky, recorded live at the NRECA Safety Leadership Summit in St. Louis, Missouri. He makes the case that most safety problems in the electric utility industry are not about rule following. They are about what happens in someone's mind long before they ever get to the task. Most co-ops still treat safety as a compliance function. Deliver the information, check the box, move on. And for a long time, that worked well enough. But Jamie Conn has spent years watching what happens when you replace blame with relationship, and what becomes possible when people actually feel safe enough to tell the truth about what went wrong. Jamie came to line work through the military and an unemployment office, with no background in utilities and no ambitions to become a lineman. What he found surprised him. Almost 17 years working the line gave him something most safety coordinators do not have: the experience of being the guy on the pole, the one carrying unspoken baggage to the job site, the one who knows what it feels like when the room turns into a blame session after an incident. Then his brother died by suicide. That loss sent him into ministry, where he spent four years as a pastor before the pull of the industry brought him back. When a safety coordinator position opened up, it felt like the two halves of his career had finally found a reason to exist in the same room. The relational work of a pastor and the protection work of a safety professional turned out to be the same job in different gear. Featured topics:
Jamie is not proposing to get rid of protocols or safety manuals or job briefings. He is proposing that none of those tools work the way they are supposed to unless the relationships underneath them are solid. Rules tell people what to do. Culture determines whether they actually do it, and whether they tell you when something goes wrong before it becomes an incident report. This is a conversation about what safety looks like when a former lineman, pastor, and safety coordinator decides to stop treating people like robots and start engineering systems that account for the fact that they are not. | |||
| 027: Scroll to Safety: One Co-op's Bet on Short-Form Video for Field Training (with Walt Stephens) | 26 May 2026 | 00:19:51 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Walt Stephens, Safety Manager at Brunswick EMC in Shallotte, North Carolina, recorded live at the NRECA Safety Leadership Summit in St. Louis, Missouri. He makes the case that the way electric cooperatives have been communicating safety for 30 years is not broken, but it is not enough anymore. Most co-ops still run safety the way they always have. PowerPoint in a conference room, a classroom full of mixed generations, and the expectation that information delivered equals information retained. And for a long time, that worked well enough. But the workforce has changed, and the way people learn has changed with it, and Walt Stephens has spent the last few years watching the gap between the two grow wider. Walt has been in safety for 31 years. He has sat through the evolution of the industry and watched each new generation come in with a different relationship to information, authority, and technology. What he noticed is not a problem with the younger generation. It is a problem with the medium. A 25-year-old who needs to fix his car does not open a manual. He pulls up a YouTube video. Walt asked himself a simple question: what would happen if we met them there instead of asking them to come to us? The answer he landed on is a short-form video library, built and maintained by the crews themselves, hosted on a closed social platform, and designed to feel more like scrolling than sitting through a seminar. The idea is still young. The infrastructure is still being figured out. But the CEO bought in, a neighboring co-op CEO heard the pitch and immediately asked how to get involved, and Walt already has a working Instagram account running a proof of concept inside Brunswick EMC. Featured topics:
Walt is not proposing to throw out the apprentice program or the LMS or the safety manual. He is proposing to add something that the current system cannot provide on its own: content that feels native to the people it is trying to reach, made by the people doing the work, and available whenever they have 30 seconds and a reason to look. This is a conversation about what it actually takes to stay relevant to a new generation of lineworkers, and what happens when a 31-year safety veteran decides to stop fighting the scroll and start using it. | |||
| 026: Building a Safety Culture That Outlasts the Rules (with Micah Thompson and JD Cox) | 12 May 2026 | 00:31:05 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Micah Thompson and JD Cox, recorded live at the NRECA Safety Leadership Summit in St. Louis, Missouri. They make the case that safety culture lives or dies on something most people in the industry are not comfortable talking about: love. Most co-ops approach safety the way you would expect. Policies, training, federal standards, meetings in the break room. And then someone gets hurt anyway. Not because the rules were wrong. Because rules alone have never been enough to change what a person does at 2 in the morning after a five-day stretch in the rain. JD Cox spent 38 years in the industry, 24 of them on a line crew. On his 21st birthday, a cable failure dropped a steel ball 29 feet onto the top of his head and broke his neck and back in two places. He came back to work 75 days later. What changed was not his knowledge of the safety manual. It was his understanding of why any of it actually matters. He has spent the years since building a message around the idea that compliance follows love, not the other way around. Micah Thompson heard JD speak at an NRECA certification class in Madison and says nobody in the room made an impression like he did. He has spent his career trying to close the gap between what organizations say about safety and what they actually do when no one is watching. His test is simple: what do your people feel on Sunday night at nine o'clock? Together they make the case that safety is not a goal, it is a promise. Goals get abandoned. Promises stick because they are tied to something real, the people waiting at home, the kids in the stands, the coworker riding shotgun every day. Featured topics:
Micah and JD are not the kind of safety professionals who lead with citations. They lead with character and conviction. Their message is that if you want people to follow the rules when things get hard, you have to give them a reason that matters more than the rules. This is a conversation about what genuine care looks like in the field, and what it costs when it is not there. | |||
| 025: The Ken Macken Interview and Tribute: A Life Lived in Service of Electric Cooperatives. | 28 Apr 2026 | 00:43:01 | |
Ken Macken dedicated his life and career to electric cooperatives. He knew the job from the inside: the crews, the culture, the moments where safety either holds or it doesn't. As Director of Safety and Training at NRECA, he became the leader of what is now one of the most attended electric utility safety conferences in the country, growing the Safety Leadership Summit this year in St. Louis to nearly 1,300 attendees. He didn't do that by talking about compliance. He did it by connecting with people. Ken believed the shift from a process-first culture to a people-first culture was the most important thing happening in the cooperative world. He talked about it plainly, the crew of three or four guys who are irreplaceable, the wife at home waiting, the soccer game after the shift. He believed that when you understand your why, safety stops being a rule and starts being a commitment. He also believed that leadership is not a title. It is a price you pay, a willingness to set aside your own interests long enough to bring someone else to a higher level. Ken's legendary 10-10-2-2 (come home with ten fingers, ten toes, two arms, and two legs) will live in the consciousness of electric cooperatives for generations. Ken unexpectedly passed away two days after this conversation was recorded. What he left behind is a body of work, a conference that will keep growing, and a way of thinking about safety that has shaped how cooperatives across the country show up for their people. This episode is our conversation, exactly as it happened. Featured topics:
After the interview, we appended tributes submitted by some of the people Ken worked with who were deeply impacted by him. The cooperative community lost one of its best. Ken will be deeply missed by everyone whose life he touched. May this episode serve as a humble tribute to a man who lived for others. And may we strive to follow his example. | |||
| 024: The Challenges and Advantages of Leaving Your G&T (with Chris Hansen) | 14 Apr 2026 | 00:21:10 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Chris Hansen, CEO and General Manager at La Plata Electric Association in Durango, Colorado. He shares what it takes to walk away from a long-term G&T contract, rebuild trust from scratch, and build a co-op ready for what comes next. Most co-ops do not set out to reinvent how they buy power. They are focused on keeping the lights on, serving members, and managing risk. But when La Plata's board made the decision to leave Tri-State and become an independent co-op, they were up against a hard reality. The co-op was capped at 5% local generation, had a growing solar footprint with nowhere to put it, and needed a CEO who could turn a controversial strategic pivot into something members could believe in. Chris Hansen's path to that job is anything but conventional. He started his career as a nuclear engineer, moved into utility consulting, left to run for the Colorado state legislature, and spent a decade in the state house and senate before a friend reached out about an opening in Durango. Fourteen months in, he is building a power supply portfolio from the ground up, navigating energy politics in real time, and making the economic case to members one conversation at a time. The proof is starting to show up in people's bills. Rates at La Plata will be roughly 15% lower than they would have been under the old contract. That kind of outcome does not happen by accident. It comes from direct PPAs with solar, wind, and hydro projects that were off limits before, from joining SPP to access the regional market, and from a disciplined approach to utility-scale storage. But Chris is quick to point out that the engineering was never the hard part. The hard part was earning trust in rooms full of people who were not sure the decision made sense. Featured topics:
Chris shares how he thinks about communicating energy policy without getting pulled into the politics around it, what skills a co-op actually needs when it steps out of a G&T relationship, and why skating to the puck is the right frame for where La Plata is headed. His story is a reminder that some of the most consequential decisions in the co-op world happen quietly, in board rooms, years before anyone outside the territory notices. This is a story about a bold bet, a deliberate transition, and the work of building trust fast enough to make it stick. | |||
| 023: A Changed Man: Why Safety Became My Number One Priority | 31 Mar 2026 | 00:17:48 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, James Tanneberger, CEO of South Central Indiana REMC, shares the story that permanently changed the way he thinks about safety and how it shaped the leader he is today. ames opens up about his early career working around substations without fully understanding the risks involved. Safety felt like a formality back then, not because he was reckless, but because nobody had ever shown him how close to danger he actually was. That changed when a colleague with 36 years of experience was killed during a routine switching operation after a breaker closed into a hot bus inside a metal clad unit. What happened next wasn't just a policy change. It was a complete reckoning with what safety culture actually means. The conversation goes deep on the idea that accidents like this one rarely come down to a single mistake. The real root cause is almost always culture, the invisible message an organization sends its people about what actually matters. James explains how leaders communicate priorities without saying a word, through budget decisions, PPE approvals, and whether they stop to listen when a lineman flags a hazard. At SCI-REMC, that recently meant burying a stretch of line overrun with rattlesnakes because the crew asked and leadership listened. We also talk about the role of technology in keeping linemen out of harm's way, from remotely operated switching devices to automated outage management systems that can reduce an outage from 600 homes to 60 before a truck ever rolls, removing the need for a lineman to stand underneath a switch that throws sparks on a fireball. Featured topics
This episode is a reminder that safety is not a program you roll out. It is a culture you build, one decision at a time. | |||
| 022: Back to the Future: Why Leaving their G&T was the Right Decision for United Power (with Mark Gabriel) | 17 Mar 2026 | 00:29:26 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Mark Gabriel, CEO of United Power, to talk about what it takes to reinvent an electric cooperative from the ground up. Mark shares how United Power made the difficult decision to leave their G&T and rebuild their entire power supply from scratch. What started as a painful process turned into a complete transformation, replacing one power supplier with 27, raising $700 million in bonds in five weeks, and opening a 162-megawatt natural gas plant in just 20 months. A big part of the conversation focuses on hyper-localization, United Power's strategy of generating and storing power within their own footprint to reduce transmission dependence and keep dollars in their communities. Mark explains why this approach isn't actually new. It's a Back to the Future moment, returning to the distributed model that powered the earliest days of the electric grid. We also talk about battery storage, the real cost of small modular reactors, and why the way co-ops charge their members for electricity may need a fundamental rethink as the industry changes. Throughout the discussion, Mark makes the case that the co-ops who will thrive are the ones willing to think differently. Featured topics
This episode is about what it looks like when a co-op outgrows the traditional model and has the courage to build something new. The Co-op Heroes Podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work every day to keep our communities powered, safe, and connected. | |||
| 021: Giving Co-ops a National United Voice: FEMA Reimbursements, Reliability, and the Future of the Grid (with Mike Partin) | 03 Mar 2026 | 00:31:12 | |
In this episode of The Co-op Heroes Podcast, we sit down with Mike Partin, President of the Board at the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, to talk about what it takes to represent electric cooperatives at the national level. Mike shares how co-ops work together to make sure their voices are heard, especially in Washington where decisions can directly affect reliability and costs for rural systems. Representing hundreds of co-ops and millions of consumers gives the cooperative network real influence, but only when they move together. A big part of the conversation focuses on disaster recovery and why federal support matters so much for co-ops. After major storms, restoring power can cost millions of dollars, and delays in reimbursement can put real pressure on member-owned utilities. Mike explains why these programs matter and what co-ops are doing to improve the system. We also talk about the future of the grid, rising demand, and the challenge of keeping power reliable and affordable as the industry changes. Throughout the discussion, Mike makes the case that cooperation is still the strength of the co-op model. Featured topics • How co-ops work together to influence national policy This episode is about what happens when local co-ops come together to solve national problems and why that cooperation still matters today. The Co Op Heroes Podcast brings you real stories from electric utility operators, the people who work every day to keep our communities powered, safe, and connected. | |||