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Why You're Not Closing Clients as a Fractional CMO (It's Not Your Price)27 Oct 202600:19:26

If you've ever lost a client you really wanted and thought, "Maybe I'm just bad at sales," this episode is for you.

I hear this ALL the time, and listen, I get it. Selling felt pushy to me for a long time too. But you are not bad at sales, and you definitely don't need to knock two thousand dollars off your retainer.

So I'm walking you through how I take a potential client from the very first conversation to a signed contract, step by step, so you can sign more of the clients you want without lowering your rates or feeling pushy.

In this episode, I'm sharing:

  • The seven places I see Fractional CMOs lose a client they should have signed (and how to figure out which one is costing you the most)
  • The prep I do before every sales call, and why it changes the whole conversation
  • How I say my price out loud, because HOW you say it matters just as much as the number
  • What I say when a client tells me it's too expensive, needs to "think about it," or has to "run it by their partner"
  • How I ask for the sale and follow up without feeling pushy, annoying, or like I'm chasing

Whether you're a Fractional CMO, a consultant, or a marketing contractor, if you want to sign more of the clients you're already talking to without lowering your rates, you'll love this episode.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why You're Not Closing Fractional CMO Clients (It's Not Your Price)

00:55 Why “You're Too Expensive” Isn't the Real Problem

02:05 #1: You're Not Pre-Qualifying Your Leads

03:30 #2: Your Discovery Calls Are Too Surface-Level

04:45 #3: You're Emailing Proposals Instead of Selling Them

06:15 Why Your Proposal Needs a Sales Call

07:30 #4: You're Not Confident When Sharing Your Price

08:45 Say Your Price & Stop Talking

09:50 #5: You're Not Handling Sales Objections Properly

11:00 How to Respond When Clients Say They Need Execution

12:45 Stop Being Afraid to Push Back on Clients

14:00 #6: You're Not Asking for the Close

15:10 How to Uncover Hidden Sales Objections

15:55 #7: You're Not Following Up Enough

17:05 Why I Follow Up Until I Get a Clear No

18:00 Audit Your Last 3 Lost Sales Opportunities

18:45 Improve Your Sales Process & Close More Clients

Growing Your Business as a Marketer: How to Build a Team Without the Overhead20 Oct 202600:28:59

At some point in your marketing business, you can't do all of the work yourself anymore.

A client needs copy, or design, or paid ads, and now you have to decide who you trust enough to put in front of them. And that's the hard part of building a team, because whoever you bring in, their work goes out under YOUR name.

I've gotten this wrong. I've made three big hiring mistakes over the years, and one of them ended with a contractor taking my money and ghosting me. So in this episode, I'm walking you through how I hire now.

In this episode, I'm sharing:

  • The one rule I have for anyone who works under my name
  • What I ask for before I'll hire someone I don't know
  • The four things I look for in every single person I hire
  • What the first few months look like once someone is on my team
  • Why the traditional agency model isn't for me
  • Who is on my team right now, and how I handle the financial side

Whether you're a marketing contractor bringing on your first subcontractor, a Fractional CMO building a bench of people you can call on, or you're helping a client hire, you’ll love this episode.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

Web/Branding Designer: Ria Johnston → https://studio-kind.com/about

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How to Build a Marketing Team Without the Overhead

01:15 Why I Don't Run a Traditional Marketing Agency

02:30 How I Structure My Subcontractor Team

03:35 Why I'm So Selective About Who I Hire

04:45 My 2 Rules for Hiring Subcontractors

06:10 The Hiring Mistake That Cost Me a Vacation

07:10 How I Make Money From Subcontractors

08:30 How I Structure Contractor Payments

09:45 Who's Actually on My Marketing Team?

10:10 Why Hiring My Best Friend Works

12:20 How Fractional CMOs Work Within My Agency

13:15 The Marketing Specialists I Keep on My Team

14:35 How I Find Great Contractors Without Recruiting

16:05 My Process for Hiring New Team Members

16:45 Why I Always Start With a Paid Test Project

17:45 The 4 Things I Look for in Every Hire

18:00 #1: Skills & Quality of Work

18:45 #2: Strategic Thinking & Problem-Solving

20:20 #3: Reliability & Accountability

20:55 #4: Professionalism & Communication

21:35 How I Onboard Contractors for Long-Term Success

23:15 Why Setting Expectations Early Saves Time Later

24:00 What to Do When a Contractor Isn't Working Out

25:05 Who Should You Hire First?

26:00 Start Building Your Team With People You Trust

27:00 My Advice for Growing Your Team Slowly

28:15 Grow Your Fractional CMO Business Without the Overhead

How to Become More Valuable as a Marketer in the Age of AI13 Oct 202600:24:20

AI is getting better at doing the work marketers have been paid to do for years.

And whether you’re a Fractional CMO, a strategist, a consultant, or working on a marketing team, I think there’s a question worth asking now:

What is going to make you MORE valuable as AI gets better?

Because I don’t think the marketers who thrive over the next five or ten years will necessarily be the ones who can produce the most, work the fastest, or even use the most AI tools.

There’s a much bigger shift happening in what great marketing is worth, and where companies are going to need humans most.

In this episode, I’m sharing:

  • The shift I think is going to have one of the biggest impacts on marketing careers over the next few years
  • Why some incredibly talented marketers may still find their value getting squeezed
  • Where I believe the biggest opportunity is for marketers who want to become more valuable, not less
  • What I would be paying very close attention to if I were building my marketing career today
  • One question you can use to look at your own work and see whether you’re moving in the right direction

I don’t know exactly what AI will be capable of five years from now. None of us do.

But I do think we can already see where things are heading.

And if you work in marketing, I think understanding this shift now could completely change what you choose to get really, really good at next.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Will AI Make Your Marketing Skills Less Valuable?

00:40 The Marketing Work AI Is Making Less Valuable

02:30 Why Execution Alone Is No Longer Enough

04:05 Where the Real Value in Marketing Is Moving

05:30 The 3 Skills That Make Marketers More Valuable

05:55 #1: Know What Marketing Is Actually Worth Doing

07:20 #2: Develop Better Taste & Strategic Judgment

09:35 #3: Make Confident Marketing Decisions

11:50 How to Make Your Marketing Expertise More Valuable

12:50 Stop Selling Deliverables & Start Showing Your Strategy

14:20 Show Clients the Thinking Behind Your Work

15:35 The “So What?” That Makes Your Reporting Valuable

16:40 Stop Being an Order Taker & Start Leading

17:50 Use Your Expertise to Improve AI-Generated Work

18:55 The Career Exercise Every Marketer Should Do

20:15 Find the Work That Energizes You

21:15 Should You Move Into Marketing Leadership?

22:10 How to Stay Valuable If You Love Execution

22:55 The Opportunity AI Creates for Marketers

23:25 Build Your Strategic Marketing Skills With Fractional CMO School

How to Find Fractional CMO Clients in 2026 - 12 Proven Ways06 Oct 202600:31:35

There are WAY more ways to find Fractional CMO clients than you probably realize.

I've personally used 12 different strategies to find clients over the years, which is exactly why I don't believe there is one "right" way to build your pipeline. And in this episode, I'm breaking all 12 of them down.

I'm sharing:

  • How I think about finding clients before I ever start looking for them
  • The two client acquisition strategies I personally wouldn't prioritize, and where I'd put that energy instead
  • 12 different ways I've actually found Fractional CMO clients throughout my career
  • A 13th, AI-focused bonus strategy I'm experimenting with right now
  • The exact steps I'd take to turn all of these options into an actionable client acquisition plan

The best part is that you don't need a massive audience, a complicated funnel, or one perfect lead generation strategy to build a strong pipeline.

You need to know where the opportunities are, choose where you're going to focus, and consistently put yourself in the right places. By the end of this episode, you'll have plenty of ways to do exactly that, plus a clear plan for what to do next.

FREE cold outreach email templates: Fractional CMO Sales Email Templates — The CMO Office

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 12 Ways to Find Fractional CMO Clients in 2026

01:05 Don’t Lower Your Standards Just Because You Need Clients

02:15 2 Client-Getting Strategies I Would Skip

02:25 Why I Wouldn’t Start With Paid Ads

03:15 Why Cold DMs Don’t Work for High-Ticket Services

04:05 #1: Cold Outreach to Dream Clients

06:15 How to Make Cold Outreach Actually Work

07:45 #2: Optimize Your LinkedIn Profile

09:20 #3: Post Strategic Content on LinkedIn

11:15 #4: Tap Into Your Existing Network

13:10 #5: Build Relationships With Other Fractional CMOs

14:30 #6: Connect With Advisors Around Your Ideal Client

16:05 #7: Build Referral Partnerships With Agencies

18:35 #8: Get in Front of Communities Your Clients Already Trust

20:30 #9: Be a Guest on the Right Podcasts

22:10 #10: Connect With Recruiters & Fractional Staffing Firms

23:50 #11: Use Job Sites & Fractional Marketplaces

25:25 Don’t Disqualify Yourself Before You Apply

26:15 #12: Use Upwork Strategically

27:25 BONUS: Get Found Through AI Search

28:35 Your 3-Step Plan to Start Getting Clients

28:50 Step 1: Pick Your 3 Best Lead Generation Tactics

29:20 Step 2: Set Measurable Weekly Goals

29:50 Step 3: Give Your Strategy Enough Time to Work

30:25 Stop Researching & Start Taking Action

How Many Hours Should a Fractional CMO Work Per Client?29 Sep 202600:12:47

One of the biggest unlocks in my Fractional CMO business was realizing I could make more money by selling LESS of my time.

Because if every new client requires another 10, 15, or 20 hours of your week, there's eventually a ceiling on how much you can earn. And if getting faster and better at your job means you simply have to take on more work to make more money... something about that model is broken.

So in this episode, I'm getting really transparent about what the math actually looks like inside my Fractional CMO business.

I'm sharing:

  • Why I stopped thinking about Fractional CMO work in terms of billable hours
  • The three problems I see with hourly pricing as you move into a leadership role
  • How I structure and scope my packages instead
  • How many hours I actually spend on different types of clients
  • The effective hourly rate I aim for behind the scenes
  • How to know if you're spending way too much time on your own clients

The goal isn't to squeeze more clients into an already packed calendar. It's to get really good at understanding the value of your time, protecting your scope, and building offers where the numbers actually work.

Because the better you get at this work, the more valuable your time should become. And your business model should allow you to benefit from that.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How Many Hours Should a Fractional CMO Work Per Client?

01:05 Why I Don’t Charge Hourly

01:25 Reason #1: Hourly Pricing Rewards Inefficiency

02:30 Reason #2: Your Value Isn’t Your Time

03:45 Reason #3: Stop Trying to “Fill” Your Hours

05:00 How I Scope My Fractional CMO Packages Instead

06:25 My Target $300–$500 Effective Hourly Rate

07:05 How Many Hours I Actually Work Per Client

08:15 Advisory vs. Full Fractional CMO Hours

09:15 How to Know If You’re Working Too Much

09:45 #1: Look at Your Scope

10:25 #2: Look at Your Time

10:55 #3: Calculate Your Effective Hourly Rate

11:45 Make Your Hours Work for Your Business Model

12:25 Build a Business That Doesn’t Run You Into the Ground

When Things Feel Hard: 5 Strategies to Help You Get Out of a Rut22 Sep 202600:19:14

You know those seasons where business (or life) just feels harder than it should?

A few things haven't gone your way. You've lost some momentum. You're questioning decisions you normally feel confident about. And somehow, without really noticing when it happened, you just don't feel quite like yourself.

I've been through enough of these seasons to know that there are a handful of patterns I fall into every single time. They seem small in the moment, but together they can keep me stuck in a rut for way longer than I need to be.

In this episode, I'm sharing:

  • The five patterns I watch for when business (or life) starts to feel hard
  • The subtle ways we can accidentally make a difficult season feel even heavier
  • What I do differently now when I notice myself slipping into one of these patterns
  • How I start finding my way back to feeling clear, grounded, and like myself again
  • The questions I ask myself before making big decisions from a difficult headspace

If you're in a season where you're overthinking everything, questioning what's next, or simply feeling a little off, this episode is for you.

You might not be able to change everything that's happening around you right now. But there are things you can change about how you move through it, and sometimes that makes a much bigger difference than you'd expect.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 What to Do When Everything Feels Hard

01:30 The Habits That Make Hard Seasons Even Harder

02:25 #1: Take Care of Your Body First

04:15 Start Small When Your Routine Falls Apart

06:00 #2: Stop Isolating Yourself

08:20 #3: Make Space to Actually Feel What You’re Feeling

10:35 Why Your Problems Feel Smaller When You Regulate Yourself

11:10 #4: Get Outside of Your Own Head

13:10 Helping Someone Else Can Shift Your Perspective

13:55 #5: Stop Believing Every Thought You Have

15:35 Separate the Facts From the Story You’re Telling Yourself

16:50 Borrow Confidence From Your Past Self

17:45 Don’t Make Big Decisions From a Bad Headspace

18:35 Get Back to Yourself Before You Fix the Problem

How to Think Like a CMO: 6 Laws for Better Marketing Strategy15 Sep 202600:20:57

Anyone can put together a deck full of marketing recommendations. Building a strategy that actually feels like it came from a really good CMO requires a completely different level of thinking.

Over the years, I've realized there are a handful of principles I come back to every single time I'm building strategy for a client. They've changed the way I make recommendations, how I work with founders, and honestly, how confident I feel making the calls I'm being paid to make.

This week's episode is actually pulled from a training I taught inside Fractional CMO School, and I'm walking you through what I call the Six Laws of CMO-Level Strategy.

In this episode, we're covering:

  • The six laws I use when building high-level marketing strategy for clients
  • How to start thinking like the person leading marketing instead of simply doing the marketing
  • The common mistakes that can make an otherwise solid strategy feel more junior or execution-focused
  • How to develop stronger strategic judgment when there isn't one obvious "right" answer
  • How to make recommendations you can actually stand behind and communicate confidently to your clients

The more you develop this way of thinking, the easier it becomes to walk into a business, see what's actually going on, know where to focus, and make the calls your clients are looking to you to make.

And that's such a huge part of stepping into the CMO role with confidence. You trust your thinking more, your clients trust your recommendations more, and you start showing up as the person who can actually lead the marketing.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The 6 Laws of a CMO-Level Marketing Strategy

01:14 How to Think Like a Marketing Leader

01:55 Law #1: Think Like an Owner, Marketer Second

05:25 Law #2: Your Client Is an Unreliable Narrator

08:10 Law #3: Trust Your Strategic Instincts

10:40 Law #4: Be a Leader, Not an Order Taker

14:40 The Client Mistake That Taught Me to Speak Up

16:35 Law #5: Right-Size Your Strategy to Their Resources

18:50 Law #6: Know When to Zoom In & Zoom Out

20:20 Stop Overcomplicating Your Marketing Strategy

Sometimes I Feel Like I'm Bad at Marketing (And I Know It's Not Just Me)01 Sep 202600:15:11

Ever found yourself questioning whether you're actually good at marketing?

Maybe you had a client launch go poorly, or they were unhappy with their marketing results. Either way…cue existential crisis.

It doesn't matter how much experience you have – most marketers go through periods where they lose confidence in themselves. It's easy to assume the problem is you, when it’s usually just a mismatch in expectations.

The more I've spoken to marketers over the years, the more I've realised this isn't just my experience. So many of us carry this around, but very few of us actually talk about it.

In this week's episode, I'm unpacking:

  • Why self-doubt is SO normal, even if you're experienced
  • The three growth phases every business experiences AND what happens in marketing at each phase
  • The framework I use to regain my confidence when I'm starting to feel imposter syndrome creep in

If you've ever found yourself lying awake wondering whether you've still "got it," or questioning everything after a few disappointing weeks, I really hope this episode reminds you that you're probably doing better than you think.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Do You Ever Feel Like You're Bad at Marketing?

01:20 Why Even Experienced Marketers Lose Confidence

03:00 The Real Problem Isn't Your Marketing

04:20 Phase 1: Build

06:45 Phase 2: Stabilize

09:20 Phase 3: Grow

11:10 Why Most Businesses Stay Stuck

12:20 Ask This Before You Change Your Strategy

13:20 Stop Measuring Success Against the Wrong Phase

14:00 You're Probably Doing Better Than You Think

3 Ways to Grow Your Marketing Business Without Working More Hours25 Aug 202600:14:57

If you've built a successful marketing business, you've probably realised that making more money often means taking on more clients, more projects or working more hours.

And at some point, you stop wanting that.

The problem is, most marketers only see one obvious next step: build an agency. But that's not the right path for everyone.

In this episode, I'm talking about the three different directions experienced marketers can take when they want to keep growing—and why I think the better question isn't, "How do I grow my business?" It's, "What kind of business do I actually want to build?"

Because the business you build next should fit the life you want, not just your revenue goals.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

FRACTIONAL CMO START UP GUIDE: https://www.thecmooffice.com/fcmo-guide

BOOK A CALL → https://calendly.com/the-cmo-office/fcmos-clarity-call

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How to Grow Without Working More

01:10 The Question That Changes Everything

02:35 Option 1: Become the Premium Solo Expert

04:50 Why I Didn't Choose the Solopreneur Path

06:10 Option 2: Build an Agency

08:00 Why an Agency Wasn't Right for Me

09:00 Option 3: Become a Fractional CMO

11:20 Why I Chose the Fractional CMO Model

13:00 Which Business Model Fits Your Life?

14:10 Build a Business You Don't Want to Escape

Thinking About Becoming a Fractional CMO? 5 Fears About the Role (That Aren't Actually True)18 Aug 202600:16:25

Thinking about becoming a Fractional CMO but worried you'll be on Slack all day, stuck in back-to-back meetings, and responsible for absolutely everything?

I hear these concerns from marketers all the time. And honestly? Almost every one of them comes from a misunderstanding of what the Fractional CMO role actually is.

In this week’s episode, I'm breaking down:

  • The 5 biggest myths that stop great marketers from stepping into the Fractional CMO role
  • Why so many Fractional CMOs end up creating a business that burns them out
  • The difference between being a strategic leader and becoming another member of the marketing team
  • What the role should actually look like inside a client's business
  • And how to build a Fractional CMO business that's sustainable, profitable, and gives you the freedom you were looking for in the first place

If you've ever thought, "I'd love to become a Fractional CMO... but I don't want to be responsible for everything," this episode is for you.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The 5 Biggest Myths About Becoming a Fractional CMO

01:05 Myth #1: You'll Spend All Day in Slack

03:10 Myth #2: You're Responsible for Everything

05:45 Why CMOs Lead Instead of Execute

06:45 Myth #3: Every Client Emergency Is Your Emergency

09:00 Myth #4: You'll Spend All Day in Meetings

11:30 Set Boundaries Before Clients Set Them for You

12:30 Myth #5: Clients Expect You to Do Everything

14:15 Teach Clients How to Work With You

15:35 Build a Fractional CMO Business That Gives You Freedom

Miranda Doubled Her Income Working Less as a Fractional CMO11 Aug 202600:24:53

What if you could leave your full-time job, work fewer hours, and nearly double your income - all while doing work you actually love?

In this episode, I’m joined by Fractional CMO School alum Miranda Holland to talk about how she went from working 40+ hours a week, to doubling her income, working just 30 hours a week as a Fractional CMO.

Before Fractional CMO School, Miranda found herself reacting to whatever marketing requests her clients had, instead of steering the process and strategy. Fractional CMO School gave her the framework she needed to step into leadership and create the spacious business she’d always wanted.

In this episode we cover:

  • The frameworks that helped her package, position, and price her expertise
  • What gave her the confidence to leave her full-time job and go all-in on her business
  • How she realized she was undercharging – and how her perspective on pricing changed
  • The mindset and imposter syndrome work that came with becoming an entrepreneur and CMO
  • What her business and life look like now that she has more control over her time, income, and capacity

If you’re curious about Fractional CMO School, and want to hear all about Miranda’s transformation from employee to Fractional CMO, you’ll love this episode.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Meet Miranda: From Corporate Marketer to Fractional CMO 02:30 Taking the Leap & Leaving Her Full-Time Job

04:05 The Framework That Gave Her Confidence

06:08 From Order Taker to Marketing Leader

08:06 Building a Fractional CMO Offer

09:41 The Results: Double the Income, Fewer Hours

12:45 The Mindset Shift Behind Her Success

15:38 Overcoming “Am I Qualified?” Imposter Syndrome

17:02 Packaging & Pricing Your Expertise

19:13 Why a Fractional CMO Can Be an Early Strategic Hire

21:21 Stop Selling Tactics - Start Looking at the Big Picture

22:34 Miranda’s Advice for Aspiring Fractional CMOs

23:11 Why Fractional CMO School Was Worth It

She Left Her "Dream Job" to Bet on Herself - And 6x'd Her Income07 Aug 202600:32:51

I think a lot of us have been there, - sitting in a job that looks amazing from the outside, the kind where people go "wow, you work THERE?" - and slowly realizing it's just not filling your cup anymore.

That's exactly where my guest this week was. Sydney Hagel left a big-name corporate job to start The Cozy Agency, and just over a year in she's on track to 6x her income. But the part I loved most about our conversation is how real she gets about that first year - the mistakes, the imposter syndrome, and what it really took to get to where she is now.

In this episode of the CMO School podcast, we get into:

  • How Sydney Hagel knew it was time to leave corporate - and what made her quit with no plan
  • What her first year in business looked like (including the money mistakes she made)
  • How she lands high-ticket clients (it’s SO much simpler than you might think)
  • The one thing she cared about more than profit in year one - and why it ended up building her whole client roster
  • How she went from "I'll never make good money again" to 6x-ing her income in a single year

If you're waiting to feel ready before you go after the big thing - the new niche, the bigger client, the leap out of your 9 to 5 - this is a conversation I want you to hear. Because you don't have to have it all figured out. You just have to be willing to bet on yourself before it feels safe.

Learn more about Sydney:

Instagram

LinkedIn

GetCozy

Learn more about Callan Faulkner, AI expert

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Meet Sydney Kaye & What We're Covering

01:50 From Corporate Marketing to Entrepreneurship

05:10 Why We Both Left Corporate

08:15 Knowing It Was Time to Quit

11:50 The Fear (and Freedom) of Starting Your Own Business

15:00 Landing the First High-Ticket Client

18:25 Imposter Syndrome Never Really Goes Away

21:00 How High-Ticket Clients Lead to More High-Ticket Clients

25:25 Why You Can't Skip the Building Phase

27:00 The Mindset That Keeps You Going

29:10 Your "Why" Matters More Than Money

30:50 Where to Connect with Sydney

6 Red Flags I Screen For Before I Take On Any Client as a Fractional CMO28 Jul 202600:09:07

I've watched smart, capable marketers and Fractional CMOs burn out, lose money, and start to wonder if the whole Fractional path was a mistake — all because they said yes to the wrong client. And I've done it myself, more times than I'd like to admit.

Because the thing is, you cannot out-strategize a bad-fit client. It doesn't matter how good your boundaries, your packages, or your process are — if the person on the other side of the contract is the problem, you can't fix it.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The 6 red flags I screen for before I'll work with ANY client (steal my checklist!)
  • How to spot a bad-fit client on the discovery call — before you're locked into a contract with them
  • The questions I ask that get my leads to reveal who they REALLY are (so I don’t have to find out the hard way)
  • Why a bad-fit client can make you question whether you're even cut out for this role (spoiler: it's not you)
  • How saying no to the wrong clients is what lets you get real results for the right ones

The clients you turn down matter just as much as the ones you take on. Once you can see the red flags coming, your work gets way easier — and a lot more fun.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The Wrong Client Will Cost You More

00:45 Why You Can't Out-Strategize a Bad Client

01:30 Red Flag #1: They Blame Every Marketer

02:45 Red Flag #2: No Team to Execute

03:45 Red Flag #3: Shiny Object Syndrome

04:45 Red Flag #4: You're Expected to Save the Business

06:00 Red Flags #5 & #6: Unrealistic Expectations

07:45 How to Protect Your Time and Energy

08:45 Choose Clients Who Set You Up to Win

Will the Fractional CMO Model Work in My Niche?21 Jul 202600:07:25

"Will the Fractional model actually work in MY niche?" — I get this question all the time. And it's the one that keeps people stuck: not starting, saying no to clients who'd be a great fit, or waiting to feel ready before they let themselves go for it.

But here's what I want you to hear — the niche is NOT what makes the Fractional model work. What you're selling has nothing to do with the industry. It's YOU. It's your leadership. And that is valuable (and transferable) to any niche.

In this episode, I’m breaking down:

  • The 4 things that ACTUALLY tell you if a business is a fit for the Fractional model — and not one of them is the niche (steal the checklist!)
  • The real reason marketers get stuck on the niche question and what you're REALLY saying when you ask "will this work in my niche?"
  • What actually makes you feel ready for this role
  • How I landed one of the biggest names in the online space as my very FIRST client in a niche I'd never worked in

By the end of this episode, the niche question won't feel so important, because you'll know exactly what to look for instead.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Will the Fractional Model Work in Your Niche?

00:45 The Question You Should Be Asking Instead

01:30 The 4 Signs a Business Is Ready

02:30 Why Revenue and Budget Matter

03:45 Leadership Matters More Than Industry

05:00 Why Marketers Get Stuck on Niches

06:15 Your Skills Transfer Further Than You Think

07:00 Stop Waiting for the Perfect Niche

How I Structure My Contracts as a Fractional CMO (And Why I Make It Easy for Clients to Leave)14 Jul 202600:05:49

Contracts are probably one of the least exciting things we could possibly talk about, BUT I get so many questions from marketers making the leap into Fractional CMO work and feeling completely overwhelmed by the contract side of things. OR not thinking about it at all… until something happens and they've got serious regrets.

If your immediate thought is "cool cool cool, can I just copy yours?" 😂 — you absolutely can. I share exactly where you can grab all of my behind-the-scenes business systems in the episode!

In this episode, I break down:

  • How I structure my contracts after 5+ years of testing long-term, short-term, and month-to-month (steal the setup!)
  • Why I DON'T lock clients into long-term contracts — and what I do instead
  • The scope language that keeps you from ever being "in default" of your own contract
  • The tool I use to get a new contract out to a client in under 2 minutes
  • The sneaky little feature that gives me a heads up when a client might be about to give their notice

And at under 10 minutes, it's probably the quickest (and least painful) way you'll ever learn about contracts.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why I Don't Use Long-Term Contracts

01:15 The Contract Structure That Works Best

02:30 Protect Yourself From Scope Creep

03:45 The Contract Tool I Use for Every Client

04:45 My Favorite PandaDoc Feature

05:30 Final Thoughts on Better Client Contracts

How I'm Using AI as a Fractional CMO to Deliver $15K+ Marketing Strategies07 Jul 202600:11:31

The advice to "use AI to work faster" is great (I've cut my $15K client strategy build time nearly in HALF) but it’s really easy to get generic output if you’re not careful. That’s why I’m breaking down the exact process I use to build my client strategies.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The 5-step process I use to build my $15K client strategies with AI (so you can set yourself up the same way)
  • The biggest mistakes I see Fractionals making with AI in strategy work (the last one is the worst)
  • How I set up my AI to get great output (instead of generic or AI sounding garble)
  • How I use AI as a thought partner instead of having it do the thinking for me

If you want to use AI for marketing strategy, or you already are, but you’re not happy with the output, you’ll love this episode.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How I Cut Strategy Time in Half With AI

01:00 The Biggest AI Mistakes Marketers Make

02:45 Build AI Context Before You Prompt

04:15 Turn Your Thinking Into Better Strategy

05:45 Show AI What Great Looks Like

07:00 Why I Build Strategies Section by Section

08:45 The Final Review Most People Skip

10:00 Use AI as a Thought Partner, Not a Strategist

11:00 The Biggest AI Mistake to Avoid

Why I'm Not Taking On More Clients (Even Though I Could)30 Jun 202600:11:25

Here's something I've learned building this business: at a certain point, doing more of what's comfortable stops moving you toward what you actually want. And the most powerful thing you can do is get radically honest about where you're putting your energy.

For years I’ve wanted to grow Fractional CMO School. This year, I finally am — and I'm pulling back the curtain on exactly why, what I'm building, and the vision behind all of it.

In this episode, I'm sharing:

  • The decision that's reshaping my entire business this year — and the honest realization that got me here
  • Why I'm intentionally protecting my space instead of filling it (and what that unlocks)
  • The ecosystem I'm building behind the scenes — including an agency engine designed to send incredible Fractional leads straight to my students
  • The mission that's driven me from day one: helping women build wealth on their own terms — and the bold number I'm committing to this year

This one is personal, and it's a look at the bigger vision I'm building — for me, and for every ambitious marketer ready to step into their next level. If that's you, you're going to want to hear this.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why I'm Making a Big Change

01:00 The Conversation That Changed Everything

02:45 Why I Chose Fractional CMO School

04:30 The Bigger Mission Behind My Business

06:00 The Vision I'm Building

07:15 Choosing Growth Over Comfort

08:45 Why Fear Is Part of the Process

10:00 My Goal for the Next Year

11:00 What's Possible for Every Marketer

The Best Niches for Fractional CMOs in 2026 (And Where to Find Clients)23 Jun 202600:13:17

Choosing a niche is one of the hardest decisions you'll make as a Fractional CMO. It determines what you charge, how sticky your retainers are, and how long it takes you to hit consistent six figures.

In this episode, I'm sharing the top niches for Fractional CMOs in 2026 — the ones I think you can make the most money in, why they're the best, and where to find them.

Inside this episode:

  • Where the smart money is moving in 2026 — and the public sources that show you exactly who's got cash to spend
  • The fastest-growing consumer market on the planet, and the sub-niches inside it nobody's talking about
  • The category of business most marketers refuse to touch — and the one quietly minting the best-paying clients in the game
  • The buyers who already know what expertise is worth (and are happy to pay for it)
  • The one mistake almost every marketer makes when picking a niche — and how to sidestep it so you stop spinning and actually start moving

If you've been stuck waiting for the "right" niche to reveal itself, this is the episode that gets you out of your head and into the work.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The Niches I'd Choose Right Now

01:00 The Fastest Path to Clients With Budgets

03:45 Why Health & Wellness Isn't Slowing Down

06:30 The Clients Nobody Talks About

08:30 Why Boring Businesses Win

10:30 The Niche Advice That Keeps People Stuck

11:45 Try This Before Committing to a Niche12:45 The Simpler Way to Get Started

How to Become a Fractional CMO: 5 Things to Do BEFORE You Quit16 Jun 202600:13:07

Quitting your corporate job too early is why so many new Fractionals undercharge, take on bad-fit clients just to pay the bills, and burn out 6 months in wondering if they made the right call.

The advice to "just take the leap" is great — I'm a huge believer in moving fast — but going Fractional is a business build, not a job change, and the best time to start building it is while you've still got a paycheck coming in.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The 5 things I'd do BEFORE quitting my corporate job to go Fractional (you can steal the exact list!)
  • The asset you should be building while you're still inside the company (it'll sell for you for the next 5 years)
  • The exact ask I'd send to your network that warms up half your first clients without a single pitch
  • The runway number that lets you charge what you're worth instead of what you need

If you're sitting at your desk thinking "I'm ready for this, but I have no idea where to start" — you'll love this episode.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Don't Quit Your Job Yet

01:00 The Positioning Advantage Most Marketers Miss

03:00 Build Proof Before You Need It

05:15 Learn From People Already Doing It

07:30 Start Building Your Reputation Now

09:15 Why LinkedIn Matters More Than You Think

11:00 The Runway and Offer Strategy That Changes Everything

12:20 Your Fractional CMO Exit Plan

What To Do When Your Fractional CMO Client Has No Team To Execute09 Jun 202600:17:49

The worst thing that happens on a fractional CMO engagement isn't bad strategy — it's good strategy with no one to actually execute it.

Every Fractional CMO will eventually land a client who doesn't have the right team to do the work. How you handle is everything.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The 3 types of team gaps every fractional CMO will eventually hit
  • The common mistakes that shift you from leader to doer fast (and are hard to come back from)
  • 3 ways to solve team gaps without filling them ourself

Plus, the reframe that turns this whole problem into a pricing and scoping opportunity in your favor.

Your job as a fractional CMO is to build and run the marketing function. Not to be the marketing function.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The Fastest Way to Devalue Yourself as a CMO

01:15 The 3 Team Gaps Every Fractional CMO Will Face

04:15 The Mistakes That Turn CMOs Into Doers

07:30 Stop Taking Ownership of Client Urgency

09:15 How Smart CMOs Solve Team Gaps

10:00 Build a Bench of Trusted Contractors

12:15 The Integrator and HR Partnership Strategy

15:15 Turning Team Gaps Into More Revenue

17:00 Protect Your Strategic Value

Can I Be A Fractional CMO If I've Never Been A CMO Before?02 Jun 202600:07:14

You can be a Fractional CMO without ever having held the CMO title before. If you've been counting yourself out of Fractional CMO work because you’re not sure you’re experienced enough, this episode is for you.

I’m breaking down:

  • Why your past job title is not as important as you think it is
  • The three things you need to be a CMO
  • What to do when you’re not *quite* qualified for a role
  • And the shift you need to make if you want to step into Fractional CMO work

If you've been counting yourself out of Fractional CMO work because of what's on your resume — you're going to love this episode.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Can You Be a Fractional CMO Without the Title?

01:00 What the CMO Role Actually Is

02:00 The First Sign You're Already Thinking Like a CMO

03:15 Why Business Thinking Matters More Than Marketing Skills

04:45 Stop Acting Like an Executor

06:00 Nobody Is Going to Tell You You're Ready

04:50 The Bare Minimum You Need Online

05:40 How to Build Credibility Fast

06:10 Why I’d Focus on LinkedIn

06:45 Instagram Clients Are Different

Stop Posting on Social Media to Get Clients as a Fractional CMO26 May 202600:07:55

Posting on social media is one of the least effective easy to get clients as a Fractional CMO.

I'm a huge believer in being visible online — but social media for lead generation is the SLOWEST and most exhausting route to landing high-ticket Fractional CMO clients.

In this episode, I break down:

  • 3 reasons social media isn't landing you high-ticket Fractional CMO clients
  • Where high-ticket clients DO come from — and why most Fractionals are looking in the wrong place
  • The reframe I give my students that ends the content hamster wheel for good
  • How to make your channels work for you WITHOUT posting every day (you'll get hours back)

If you've been grinding to create social media content on the daily, and not seeing the return on your time, you’ll love this video.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Social Media Didn't Build My Business

00:40 Why Most Social Media Leads Are Bad Fits

01:40 The Content Creation Hamster Wheel

02:50 How High-Ticket Clients Actually Buy

04:10 The Real Purpose of Social Media

05:20 How to Look Credible Without Posting Every Day

06:45 Why LinkedIn Beats Every Other Platform

07:30 Stop Chasing Content

5 Ways to Beat Imposter Syndrome That Work Right Away19 May 202600:09:56

Imposter syndrome is why most Fractional CMOs undercharge, second-guess their strategy, and shrink in client meetings.

And the advice everyone gives you to "work on your mindset” is great, and I'm a huge believer in it — but that takes TIME. And if you've got clients you're leading right now, you need something that works IMMEDIATELY.

In this episode, we break down:

  • 5 tips to help you get past imposter syndrome fast
  • How to build trust with clients (even when you don't have all the answers)
  • Why you don't need to be the expert in everything as a CMO
  • The ONE thing that dissolves imposter syndrome faster than anything else
  • The question I ask myself when I get stuck in my head with a client (steal it!)

If you're working as a Fractional CMO and imposter syndrome is keeping you from showing up like the leader your clients hired you to be you’ll love this episode.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Most Imposter Syndrome Advice Is Useless

01:00 You Don't Need to Know Everything

02:15 Build a Team That Fills Your Gaps

03:45 Get Behind the Curtain

05:20 Focus on Results, Not Expertise

06:50 Remember Who You're There For

08:15 The Real Way to Beat Imposter Syndrome

Do I Even Want To Be A Fractional CMO? | Live Coaching Call12 May 202601:05:49

So many people start Fractional work then find themselves burnt out, and questioning if this model is even a fit for them.

I sat down with one of my Fractional CMO School students, for a live coaching call. Lisa came to me feeling disillusioned with the fractional model after a few client experiences, and wondering what to do next.

I helped her see that didn't hate the model, she just wasn’t operating inside the right structure.

She had been making the same mistakes I see others make all the time, so I asked her to come on the podcast because I KNEW her experience would be so helpful for many others.

In this episode, we break down:

  • The biggest mistake I see CMO’s make when building out strategies (that actually overwhelms your clients too)
  • The most common places where Fractionals end up overdelivering in their role
  • A simple filter you can use to make sure you stay in your lane and only do CMO-level work
  • The driving analogy that helped me step into leadership and totally changed how my clients saw me (you can steal it!)

If you're working as a Fractional but you’re buried in your client's Slack, your days are FULL of meetings, and you’re being pulled in a million directions, this episode is for you.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Fractional CMO Work Wasn't Working

03:25 Lisa's Background and Why She Made the Shift

08:00 The Strategy Scope Mistake Most Marketers Make

14:00 Why Overdelivering Creates Bigger Problems

22:15 When Fractional CMOs Become Operators

26:00 The Difference Between a CMO and a Marketing Manager

35:20 The Leadership Shift That Changes Everything

40:00 What It Really Means to Own the Marketing Function

45:15 How to Identify the Right Fractional CMO Clients

50:45 Why Every Growth-Stage Company Needs a Marketing Manager

56:00 Where AI Fits Into the Fractional CMO Role

01:04:00 Final Lessons on Scope, Boundaries and Client Fit

How to Sell Fractional CMO Services: Sales Secrets From a 7-Figure CMO05 May 202600:12:45

Sales is the one skill nobody teaches you as a fractional CMO — and it's the one that determines whether your business actually grows. Most of us got into this because we're good at marketing. Not because we love selling. For a long time, I hated it. I wasn't comfortable doing it, I didn't feel like I was good at it, and the idea of getting on a call where someone might say no felt awful. Four years and millions in client revenue later — sales is one of my strongest skills.

In this episode, I'm breaking down every lesson that got me there:

  • The mindset shift that made selling stop feeling gross
  • The one thing you can do to make people feel understood before you've pitched anything,
  • Why I turn people away — and how it's built my business
  • How to lead a sales call so you're never getting interviewed
  • How to say your high-ticket prices without flinching.
  • And what you can do to get better at sales.

If sales still feels uncomfortable, or it’s something you want to get better at, this episode is for you.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 I Used to Hate Sales

01:00 The 3 Shifts That Changed Everything

01:30 Why Sales Is Really Service

02:45 Empathy Is Your Competitive Advantage

04:00 The Power of Selling With Integrity

05:15 How to Lead a Sales Call

07:45 The Secret to Saying Your Price Confidently

10:00 The Only Way to Get Better at Sales

11:10 Why Confidence Comes From Reps

How to Shift From Doing Marketing to Leading Marketing as a Fractional CMO28 Apr 202600:16:37

What you spend your time on determines everything — how visible you are to your client, how much authority you actually have, how much they'll pay you, and whether you burn out. If you've ever felt like you're executing all the marketing while your client sees you as someone who takes direction instead of sets it, this episode will help you understand why.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The four things a CMO actually owns (and where execution lives)
  • The daily filter you use to know if you're staying in the right scope
  • Why staying in execution keeps you invisible — and what that costs you
  • What happens when you start setting these boundaries

This shift isn't about confidence or willpower. It's about clarity on your role. And once you have that, everything changes — how your client sees you, what you charge, how much control you have over your time. Because stepping into the CMO role isn't about doing more. It's about operating at a different level.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Most Marketers Struggle to Lead

01:00 What a CMO Actually Does

02:00 Strategy: The CMO's First Responsibility

04:00 Resource Allocation and Team Decisions

06:00 Accountability Without Doing the Work

08:00 The 30,000-Foot View of Marketing

09:15 What CMOs Should Never Do

10:45 The Filter I Use Every Day

12:15 How to Stop Being the Doer

14:00 The 3-Step Shift Into Leadership

Fractional CMO vs Agency vs Contractor: How Switching Between Roles Is Costing You21 Apr 202600:07:51

What you call yourself matters less than what you actually do. And when you code-switch with the same client — saying CMO, operating as contractor — you're losing authority and pricing power.

If you've ever found yourself executing work for a client while also calling yourself their Fractional CMO, this episode will help you understand why.

In this episode, I'm breaking down:

  • Exactly what to do in your first 90 days as a fractional CMO
  • What you should do (and not do) in months one, two, and three
  • How to integrate with the team and establish your rhythm as the leader
  • Why this progression determines whether you operate like a CMO or a contractor

This isn't about being rigid or distant. It's about clarity and boundaries. Because being a Fractional CMO isn't just about strategy — it's about the seat you're actually in.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Clients Don't See You as a Leader

00:45 Agency, Contractor, or Fractional CMO?

02:00 The Problem With Code Switching

03:15 Why Execution Shrinks Your Authority

04:30 The Scope Creep Trap

05:30 What Changes When You Stay in the CMO Seat

06:30 Why Your Pricing Starts to Make Sense

07:15 Pick a Lane and Stay There

What to Do In Your First 90 as a Fractional CMO14 Apr 202600:11:10

How you structure your first 90 days changes everything about your business. When you step into a new client engagement, the order of what you focus on determines whether you're seen as a strategic leader or just another executor.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The exact order of what to focus on first
  • How to integrate with the team and establish your rhythm
  • When and how to prove the strategy works
  • Why foundation building matters more than you think
  • And how month three positions you as the strategic owner, not just the executor

This isn't about moving fast. It's about moving in the right order. When you follow this progression, you're not operating like a contractor. You're operating like a CMO — thinking, leading, and making decisions.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 What Your First 90 Days Should Look Like

01:00 Month One: Slow Down Before You Speed Up

03:00 Month Two: Build Relationships First

04:30 Quick Wins vs Long-Term Projects

06:00 Month Three: Start Thinking Like a Leader

07:15 The Skill That Separates Great CMOs

08:15 How to Build Trust With Clients

09:15 Why the First 90 Days Matter So Much

10:00 The Fractional CMO Roadmap

My $20,000 Strategy Process (And The Mistakes Fractional CMOs Make)07 Apr 202600:12:29

I charge up to $20,000 for a marketing strategy — and in this episode I’m pulling back the curtain on exactly how I build it.

Most fractional CMOs are winging their strategy process and massively undercharging because of it. So I’m walking you through my exact four-phase process — Discovery, Strategy Development, Delivery, and Alignment & Next Steps — and the mistakes I see people make at every stage.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Most CMOs Undercharge for Strategy

01:00 Phase 1: Discovery Changes Everything

02:15 Stop Taking the Client's Word for It

03:45 The Goal-Setting Mistake That Ruins Strategies

05:15 Phase 2: Building the Right Strategy

06:45 Why Bigger Isn't Better

08:15 Phase 3: How to Deliver a Strategy

09:45 Phase 4: Turning Strategy Into a Retainer

11:00 How to Charge $20K for Strategy

Why Most Marketing Hires Fail (And How to Fix It)31 Mar 202600:11:50

I see this all the time — founders frustrated with their hires, marketers frustrated with their clients, and everyone pointing the finger at the other person. But most of the time, it’s actually no one’s fault.

In today’s episode, I’m breaking down:

  • The biggest misunderstanding around hiring marketing support
  • Why you’re not getting better results
  • The unrealistic expectations placed on one “unicorn” hire
  • And the industry dynamic that keeps founders investing in tactics instead of building strategy

If you’ve ever hired “marketing help” and still ended up feeling overwhelmed, unsupported, or unsure what’s actually working, this episode is for you.

And if you’re a marketer, this will help you see where unclear roles and structural gaps are setting you up for failure — even when you’re doing the best you can.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Marketing Hires Keep Failing

01:00 The Biggest Hiring Mistake Founders Make

02:30 More Marketing Doesn't Mean Better Results

04:15 Why Strategy and Execution Are Different Jobs

05:45 The Unicorn Myth That's Burning Everyone Out

07:45 Why Great Marketers Still Struggle

08:45 The Fractional CMO Advantage

10:00 The Industry Problem Nobody Talks About

11:00 Leadership vs Execution: The Real Question

Why Clients Don’t See You as A Leader (And How to Fix It)24 Mar 202600:14:17

How your clients see you determines everything — how much they trust your decisions, how often they question your strategy, how much control they take in meetings, and ultimately how much they’re willing to pay you as a Fractional CMO.

If you’ve ever felt a client slowly start directing you, second-guessing your recommendations, or treating you more like an executor than a strategic leader, this episode will help you understand why.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The communication shifts that position you as a strategic leader
  • The subtle behaviors that weaken your authority
  • The biggest mistake marketers make when they’re trying to show up as a leader
  • And how to recalibrate the dynamic with a client if you’re sensing they don’t see you as a leader

This isn’t about being louder or more dominant. It’s about showing up with clarity, direction, and confidence in every interaction. Because being a CMO isn’t just about strategy — it’s about leadership and communication.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Clients Don't See You as a Leader

00:45 Communication Shift #1: Always Bring a Recommendation

02:15 Communication Shift #2: Set the Agenda

03:45 Communication Shift #3: Be Proactive

05:45 The Biggest Mistake That Destroys Trust

07:30 Small Words That Shrink Your Authority

09:15 Stronger Language Builds Stronger Leadership

10:30 How to Reset the Client Dynamic

12:00 Lead With Confidence, Not Perfection 13:00 The Difference Between a CMO and an Order Taker

What I Do (and Don’t Do) With Campaigns and Launches as a Fractional CMO17 Mar 202600:22:28

Launches and marketing campaigns are one of the biggest areas, I see Fractional CMOs overstep their boundaries,

It starts with mapping out a campaign or launch…and quickly turns into building timelines, reviewing every asset, sitting in execution meetings, and basically project managing everything.

In this episode of my “What I Do and Don’t Do as a CMO” series, I’m breaking down how I approach campaign and launch planning including:

  • The 6 key things I own when planning campaigns or launches
  • The difference between strategy and project management
  • Where most CMOs overstep during a launch or campaign
  • And the filter I use to protect my time and boundaries

If you’ve ever had PTSD from launching or doing marketing campaigns (lol I feel you), this episode will help you reset your boundaries and operate at the CMO level.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Are You Doing Too Much as a Fractional CMO?

00:25 When This Level of Campaign Involvement Applies

01:40 Should You Even Launch in the First Place?

03:15 Build the Strategy Before the Assets

05:30 Connect Every Campaign to One Business Goal

06:50 Set Channel Direction—Not Daily Tasks

11:10 Where the Campaign Budget Should Go

13:20 Monitor Performance Without Pulling the Data

16:50 What I Never Do During a Launch

18:50 The Biggest Mistake Fractional CMOs Make

20:40 The Filter That Protects Your Scope

21:35 Lead the Launch—Don’t Project Manage It

22:10 Step Fully Into the CMO Role

What I Do (and Don’t Do) With Hiring for Clients as a Fractional CMO10 Mar 202600:11:15

When you don’t know what you should own (and what you shouldn’t) during the hiring process, you end up posting job descriptions, screening resumes, running interviews, onboarding new hires…and quickly turning your fractional role into a full-time job.

In this episode of my series “What I Do and Don’t Do as a CMO,” I’m breaking down how I handle hiring for clients.

We cover:

  • The 5 things I own when it comes to hiring for client teams
  • The biggest mistake I see marketers make when they try to “be helpful” with hiring
  • Where the line is between strategic leadership and operational recruiting
  • And the simple filter I use to protect my time and keep my boundaries

Hiring impacts marketing performance — but running the entire process is not your job.

If you’ve ever found yourself slipping into recruiter or marketing manager mode, this episode will help you reset your boundaries and operate at the CMO level.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Hiring Is Strategic—Recruiting Is Operational

00:50 Evaluate the Team Before You Hire

02:15 Build the Right Team for the Business

03:40 Define the Role Before You Recruit

05:35 Structure Compensation Strategically

06:55 Guide the Hiring Process—Don't Run It

08:50 The Boundaries Every Fractional CMO Needs

09:55 My Filter for CMO vs. HR Work

10:45 Stay Strategic Without Becoming the Recruiter

Three Ways to Get Clients as a Fractional CMO (No Audience Needed)03 Mar 202600:25:57

You don’t need a huge audience to get Fractional CMO clients.

But you do need to stop approaching sales like a freelancer.

If you’ve been posting educational content, creating freebies, or “putting yourself out there” and it’s not turning into clients, this episode will show you exactly why and what to do instead.

Today, I’m breaking down the 3 fastest ways to get booked as a Fractional CMO — and what most marketers are doing wrong when they try.

In this episode I break down:

  • The three fastest ways to get Fractional CMO clients, like yesterday
  • The biggest mistakes I see marketers make when they’re looking for clients
  • A simple “start here” plan you can follow over the next 30 days to help you land clients fast
  • And the one sentence that instantly positions you as a leader instead of “someone who helps with marketing”

If you’re done hoping dream clients will just land in your inbox, and you're ready to take things into your hands and make it happen, this episode will show you exactly how to do that.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

RESOURCES

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Why Most Fractional CMOs Struggle to Get Clients

02:15 Stop Selling Yourself Like a Contractor

02:55 Method #1: Leverage Your Warm Network

03:40 The 3 Biggest Referral Mistakes

07:00 The Follow-Up Most People Skip

08:20 Method #2: Build Strategic Partnerships

10:30 How to Create Referral Partners That Actually Send Clients

13:00 Method #3: Cold Pitching That Doesn't Feel Salesy

15:15 The Cold Pitch Formula That Lands Dream Clients

18:30 The Biggest Cold Outreach Mistakes

20:45 The CTA That Gets More Replies

22:15 Why Follow-Up Wins More Clients

23:45 Your 30-Day Client Acquisition Plan

25:15 The Mindset Shift That Changes Everything

How to Price Yourself as a Fractional: CMO Real Rates + The Biggest Mistakes I See24 Feb 202600:15:09

If you’re a Fractional CMO and you’ve ever wondered, “What should I be charging?”, this episode is for you.

So many experienced marketers undercharge in this role, and it’s one of the biggest reasons Fractional CMOs feel overworked, underpaid, and burned out.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The core mindset shift around pricing that changes how clients perceive your value
  • The real pricing ranges Fractional CMOs are charging — and when each range actually makes sense
  • The two most common pricing models and which one I recommend
  • The six biggest pricing mistakes that keep smart, experienced marketers undercharging — and how to fix them

This conversation is about pricing at different levels of leadership in a way that reflects responsibility, decision-making, and ownership — and supports building a lucrative, sustainable Fractional CMO business where you’re paid appropriately for the role you’re doing.

If you’ve been questioning your rates, feeling stretched thin, or sensing there’s a gap between the work you’re doing and what you’re being paid, this episode will give you the clarity you’ve been looking for.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The Biggest Pricing Mistake Fractional CMOs Make

01:05 Stop Charging for Hours

02:10 Why Retainers Win

03:05 What Different Pricing Ranges Actually Mean

04:25 Advisory Pricing ($2K–$5K)

05:45 Mid-Range Pricing (And Where Burnout Starts)

07:00 Premium Fractional CMO Pricing

08:40 Pricing Mistake #1: Charging Hourly

09:35 Pricing Mistake #2: Selling Deliverables Instead of Leadership

10:45 Pricing Mistake #3: Undefined Scope

11:50 Pricing Mistake #4: Using Your Old Salary as a Benchmark

12:45 Pricing Mistake #5: Filling Execution Gaps

13:45 Pricing Mistake #6: Undercharging Yourself

14:45 Price for Leadership, Not Tasks

What I Do (and Don’t Do) With Social Media as a Fractional CMO17 Feb 202600:11:31

One of the fastest ways Fractional CMOs burn out is by not being clear on their role. When you don’t know what you should own – and what you shouldn’t – you end up overdelivering, doing work you shouldn’t, and being way busier than you need to be, which ultimately limits your earning potential.

In this episode of my series “What I Do and Don’t Do as a CMO,” and I’m diving into Social Media

We cover:

  • What social media ownership actually means as a CMO
  • How to think about channel selection and prioritization
  • The role of positioning and high-level content direction
  • What it looks like to guide performance without getting pulled into daily execution
  • Why clear boundaries around social media are essential for protecting your time and value

If you’ve ever found yourself mapping out content calendars, reviewing captions, editing reels, or posting content, — this episode will help you reset your boundaries and focus on the strategic role you’re meant to play as a CMO.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Social Media Burns Out Fractional CMOs

00:45 Choose the Right Channels—Not Every Channel

02:00 Give Every Platform a Clear Job

03:15 Positioning Matters More Than Content

04:30 High-Level Strategy vs. Daily Content

06:20 Keep Every Channel Aligned

07:30 Monitor Results Without Managing Social Media

08:50 What I Never Do as a Fractional CMO

09:45 Stay in the CMO Seat

What I Do (and Don’t Do) With KPIs as a Fractional CMO10 Feb 202600:13:25

One of the fastest ways Fractional CMOs burn out is by not being clear on their role. When you don’t know what you should own – and what you shouldn’t – you end up overdelivering, doing work you shouldn’t, and being way busier than you need to be, which ultimately limits your earning potential.

In the first episode of my series “What I Do and Don’t Do as a CMO,” and I’m starting with KPIs and data.

In this episode, I break down what I do (and don’t do) as a CMO when it comes to KPIs and data.

In this episode, we cover:

  • What CMOs should (and should not) do when it comes to pulling and reporting on marketing data
  • The four areas I stay focused on when it comes to marketing performance and data
  • The biggest mistakes and misconceptions I see when it comes to analyzing and reporting data to CEOs and leadership teams
  • How to build a tracking plan that supports real decision-making

If KPIs feel intimidating or you’ve ever thought “I’m not a numbers person,” this episode will show you that you don’t need to be an analytics expert to be a great CMO. You just need clarity on your role, strong strategic thinking, and the confidence to stay in your lane.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The KPI Mistake That Burns Out Fractional CMOs

00:45 The 4 Things I Actually Own

01:20 Build a Tracking System That Matters

03:00 Analyze Trends—Not Just Numbers

04:10 Find the "So What" Behind the Data

05:20 Turn Insights Into Action

06:40 Zoom Out Before You Zoom In

08:25 What I Never Do as a Fractional CMO

09:40 How I Report KPIs to Clients

11:10 You Don't Need to Be a Data Expert

12:00 Make Better Decisions with Better Data

What Founders Need From Marketers and Fractional CMOs with Heather Chauvin20 Jan 202600:42:49

Why do founder–marketer relationships break down so often — even when everyone has good intentions?

In this episode, I’m joined by Heather Chauvin, leadership coach and longtime founder, to talk honestly about what founders are actually looking for when they hire marketing support — and why marketing can be one of the most emotionally charged hires a business owner makes.

We unpack:

  • Why many founders develop trust issues with marketing (and how those experiences shape expectations)
  • The hype problem in marketing — and why results are never guaranteed
  • What founders really want beyond revenue: to feel seen, heard, and supported
  • The “secret ROI” conversations most marketers never ask — and why they matter
  • Why energy management, capacity, and boundaries are part of the job
  • How strong Fractional CMOs lead as partners, not order-takers or hype machines

If you’re a Fractional CMO or senior marketer, this episode will help you understand what’s really happening underneath founder expectations — and how to lead the relationship with more clarity, confidence, and trust.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Founders Feel Let Down by Marketing

01:30 Meet Heather Chauvin

05:30 When Marketing First Became a Business Need

08:20 Why Founders Struggle to Trust Marketing

12:30 What Great Marketing Leadership Looks Like

16:10 The Value of a Fractional CMO

19:20 Results Aren't Guaranteed - And That's Okay

24:10 Marketing Is More Like Diet Culture Than We Admit

27:15 Why Great Marketers Hold Founders Accountable

31:30 Confidence, Boundaries & Human Skills

36:00 The ROI Beyond Revenue

39:45 What Founders Actually Need From Marketing Partners

42:00 Final Advice for Marketers & Founders

How to Price Yourself as a Fractional CMO: Real Rates + The Biggest Mistakes I See13 Jan 202600:12:47

If you’re a Fractional CMO and you’ve ever wondered, “What should I be charging?”, this episode is for you.

So many experienced marketers undercharge in this role, and it’s one of the biggest reasons Fractional CMOs feel overworked, underpaid, and burned out.

In this episode, I break down:

  • The core mindset shift around pricing that changes how clients perceive your value
  • The real pricing ranges Fractional CMOs are charging — and when each range actually makes sense
  • The two most common pricing models and which one I recommend
  • The six biggest pricing mistakes that keep smart, experienced marketers undercharging — and how to fix them

This conversation is about pricing at different levels of leadership in a way that reflects responsibility, decision-making, and ownership — and supports building a lucrative, sustainable Fractional CMO business where you’re paid appropriately for the role you’re doing.

If you’ve been questioning your rates, feeling stretched thin, or sensing there’s a gap between the work you’re doing and what you’re being paid, this episode will give you the clarity you’ve been looking for.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How to Price Yourself as a Fractional CMO

01:15 Stop Charging for Hours & Deliverables

02:25 Hourly vs. Retainer Pricing

03:30 What Fractional CMOs Actually Charge

04:15 $2K–$5K: Advisory Pricing

05:35 $4K–$10K: Where Scope Creep Gets Dangerous

06:40 $10K–$20K+: Full Fractional CMO Pricing

08:05 The 6 Pricing Mistakes Keeping You Underpaid

08:35 Mistake #1: Charging Hourly

09:10 Mistake #2: Selling Deliverables Instead of Leadership

10:00 Mistake #3: Not Defining Your Scope

11:15 Mistake #4: Pricing Based on Your Old Salary

12:00 Mistake #5: Filling Execution Gaps

13:30 Mistake #6: Undercharging Yourself

14:35 Price for Leadership, Not Tasks

The AI Playbook Every Fractional CMO Needs to Get Hours Back and Stay Ahead with Callan Faulkner09 Jan 202600:59:28

If you’re leading marketing in 2025, you can’t afford not to understand AI.

In this episode, I’m joined by Callan Faulkner, AI coach and founder of The Uncommon Business, who built a $4M company in 18 months with four AI-trained employees while working less than 40 hours a week. And here’s what matters: Callan isn’t teaching the surface-level “prompt for a caption” stuff you’ve already seen everywhere. She’s teaching what it actually looks like to become an AI Architect — building systems that give you back your time, protect your creative edge, and raise the quality of your work.

We dig into:

  • The shift from AI Offloader to AI Architect, and why it’s the next evolution of marketing leadership
  • Why “opening a chat and generating content” is the fastest way to get generic, mediocre output
  • The real unlock: documenting your frameworks and “genius” so AI can think like you, not like the internet
  • The three projects Callan recommends every Fractional CMO build: a Brand Guardian, a Sales Wizard, and a Money Coach
  • How to slow down up front (training systems) so you can move faster every week and reclaim real hours

If you’ve been curious about AI but hesitant to go all-in because you don’t want to lose your voice, this conversation will change how you think about AI, leadership, and what’s possible in your business.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Meet Callan Faulkner & The Future of AI

01:50 Why Most People Are Barely Using AI

05:10 From Burnout to Building a $4M AI Business

09:10 Leaving a Successful Business to Start Again

12:15 The Biggest AI Mistakes Marketers Make

18:40 AI Offloader vs. AI Architect

23:20 How Jess Uses AI to Save Hours Every Week

26:30 Why Most Marketers Are Thinking Too Small

31:30 AI Won't Replace Great Copywriters—It Amplifies Them

34:10 The 3 AI Systems Every Fractional CMO Should Build

39:20 Build Your Brand Guardian

40:50 Create an AI Sales Coach

45:30 The Money Coach That Changes Everything

52:00 The Mindset Shift Behind Higher Pricing

56:00 Why AI Is Really About Better Thinking

57:20 Where to Learn More from Callan

How to EASILY Hit 6 Figures as a Fractional CMO With 1-2 Clients16 Dec 202500:16:04

If six figures as a Fractional CMO feels out of reach — like something only “top-tier marketers” or “big-name consultants” can do — this episode is going to shift that belief fast. Hitting six figures isn’t a stretch goal in this role. It’s actually the simplest part of the business when you structure it the right way.

In this episode, I break down:

• The biggest mindset blocks keeping marketers underpaid

• Why high-ticket clients are more common than you think

• How scope (not skill) is the reason your pricing feels “too high”

• Three simple paths to six figures — even if you prefer light delivery

• What it actually takes to build a six-figure FCMO business that feels easy

If you’ve been questioning whether this level of income is possible for you, I want this episode to show you just how accessible it really is.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 You Don't Need More Clients to Hit Six Figures

01:10 The Mindset That's Keeping You Underpaid

03:10 How I Went From Corporate to a Million-Dollar Business

06:15 Why Fractional CMOs Earn More Than Marketers

07:50 Stop Charging for Execution

09:00 Where High-Ticket Clients Actually Come From

11:00 The 3 Paths to Six Figures

12:10 Path #1: One Premium Retainer

13:00 Path #2: Low-Touch Advisory Clients

13:45 Path #3: The Hybrid Model

14:45 Build Your Business Like a Fractional CMO

15:45 You Don't Need to Play Small

Fractional CMO School: Inside the Top Training Program for Fractional CMOs + Marketing Leaders09 Dec 202500:46:38

If you’ve been curious about what actually happens inside Fractional CMO School — the structure, the support, the strategy, and how marketers and fractional CMOs are scaling to six figures and beyond — this video gives you the full inside tour.

I’m sharing the real story behind the program, why I created it, what makes it different, and what students are experiencing once they get inside. If you’ve wondered whether becoming a Fractional CMO is right for you — or you want a clearer, more sustainable way to lead as a marketer — this will give you a clear picture of what’s possible.

Inside this episode:

• How I went from burnt-out marketer to six-figure Fractional CMO

• The gap I saw in this industry and why Fractional CMO School exists

• A behind-the-scenes look at the 6-month structure, coaching + support

• The real transformations students are seeing (income + identity shifts)

• What the fractional CMO role can unlock in your work, income, and life

Whether you’re an experienced marketer who’s ready to move out of execution and into leadership — or you’re already a Fractional CMO and want a better way to build your business — this episode will help you understand whether this path is right for you.

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If you’ve been curious about Fractional CMO School and want to learn more, this is your chance to peek behind the curtains.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Welcome to Fractional CMO School

01:30 Why I Built This Program

05:00 Discovering the Fractional CMO Model

08:30 Why Most Programs Miss the Mark

12:00 What Makes Fractional CMO School Different

16:00 Learn to Think Like a CMO

19:00 Daily Coaching & Community Support

22:30 Inside the Program Structure

26:00 The Course, Templates & Frameworks

31:00 Live Coaching & Expert Training

35:00 Real Student Success Stories

40:30 Who This Program Is For

43:30 Who It's NOT For

45:00 The Biggest Mindset Shift You'll Make

46:00 Ready to Become a Fractional CMO?

The Work Beneath the Work: How I Rewired My Beliefs About Money, Success, and Worthiness (with Jess Belsky)02 Dec 202500:56:49

You can do everything “right” — build the strategy, put in the hours, chase the next level — and still feel stuck. Like there’s something invisible holding you back from the growth you know you’re capable of.

I’ve been there. And what I learned is this: it’s not your strategy. It’s your subconscious.

When I started working with Jess Belsky, a Transformational Leadership Coach and Hypnotherapist, I thought I was fixing my money mindset. But the real shift came when I started rewiring my subconcious beliefs — the ones that were shaping how I led, what I earned, and how I showed up in my life and business.

In this episode, we unpack:

  • How subconscious patterns keep high-performing leaders from reaching their next level
  • The exact inner work that changed how I think, lead, and run my business (and life)
  • What it looks like to reprogram your beliefs so your conscious and subconscious are aligned

If you’ve been pushing harder but not getting further, this episode will help you see what’s really been in your way — and how to finally lead from the inside out.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Success Starts with Self-Worth

02:00 Meet Jess Belsky

05:30 The Money Mindset Session That Changed My Life

12:40 Why Inner Work Isn't Just About Business

16:20 Awareness Isn't Enough—You Need Transformation

19:00 The Tax Bill That Changed My Relationship with Money

24:30 Breaking the Burnout Cycle

27:30 What's Really Driving Your Overworking?

31:30 Healthy Self vs. Survivor Self

35:30 Creating Space Between Trigger and Response

40:00 The Real ROI of Inner Work

46:30 Why This Isn't "Woo Woo"

49:30 Conscious Leadership Starts Within

52:00 Knowing It vs. Embodying It

54:00 Where to Start Your Own Inner Work Journey

56:00 Final Reflections

The Fractional CMO Trap: When You’ve Built Yourself a Job25 Nov 202500:22:30

If your Fractional CMO business doesn’t feel like the freedom you wanted, this episode is for you.

So many experienced marketers end up stuck in what I call the Fractional CMO Trap: the place where you’ve technically built a business, but it still feels like a job.

In this episode, I’m breaking down:

  • What the Fractional CMO Trap is
  • The two doors that usually lead you into it — and how to back yourself out of each one
  • How to redesign your business to gives you the freedom (and income) you set to to create
  • A simple 30-day reset plan to help you reclaim your time, tighten boundaries, and build a Fractional business that’s sustainable

If you’ve been feeling stretched, stuck, or like you’re constantly proving your value this episode is going to change how you run your business.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 The Fractional CMO Trap

01:45 Door #1: Scope Creep

03:45 Own, Influence & Delegate

06:30 Why Great CMOs Don't Review Everything

08:30 Door #2: Selling Your Time Instead of Your Value

11:15 What Clients Are Actually Paying For

14:30 Your 30-Day Business Reset

15:15 Week 1: Audit Your Time

16:45 Week 2: Reset Client Expectations

18:15 Week 3: Repackage Your Offers

19:45 Week 4: Fine-Tune Your Boundaries

20:45 Build a Business—Not Another Job

Next-Level AI: How to Use AI as a Fractional CMO18 Nov 202501:15:12

AI is moving so fast it’s hard to keep up. Some days it’s magic, other days it’s chaos. ChatGPT forgets what you told it three prompts ago. It starts using formatting you hate. It spits out content that feels flat or off-brand. Or worse — it makes stuff up and says it with confidence.

This episode is about going beyond “just using AI” — and learning how to make it a tool that makes you sharper, faster, and more strategic… while delivering work that genuinely moves the needle for your clients.

Jim Carter III is the AI strategist and tech founder behind some of the biggest personal brands in the world — Lewis Howes, Jay Shetty, Ed Mylett, Matthew Hussey, Jay Abraham, and Gary Vee — plus he’s worked with global companies like Verizon, Yahoo!, and AT&T. Jim doesn’t just “use AI” — he builds it into the way businesses run so it’s producing consistent, high-value results.

In this episode we cover:

  • How to get AI to produce high-quality work on the first try — without endless back-and-forth or rewrites.
  • How to set up Custom GPTs and projects — and when each approach gives you the best results.
  • Advanced ways to use AI for strategy work — not just content creation.
  • The biggest mistakes even experienced marketers make with AI (and how to avoid them).
  • Where AI is headed in the next 12–18 months so you can stay ahead of the curve

If you already see the value of AI but want to start using it at a level most marketers aren’t even touching yet, this episode is for you.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/ 

Do I Have the Right Background to Be a Fractional CMO?12 Nov 202500:25:57

If you’ve ever wondered if you’ve got the right experience to be a Fractional CMO, this episode’s for you.

I’m breaking down why there’s no “perfect” background for this kind of work — and why that’s actually the best news. Whether you’ve been in one industry or role your whole career, or jumped around, , you’ve built skill sets that uniquely prepare you for this role.

In this episode, I share what kind of experience you really need in this role, how to position your background as your superpower, and how to start leading with the confidence of a CMO.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Do You Have the Right Background to Be a Fractional CMO?

01:40 There's No "Perfect" Fractional CMO Resume

03:00 If You've Spent Your Career in One Industry

05:30 If You've Worked Across Multiple Industries

07:00 If You're a Marketing Specialist

09:25 If You're a Marketing Generalist

11:25 Why My "All Over the Place" Career Became My Advantage

13:00 What Lululemon Taught Me About Being Qualified

15:25 What Clients Actually Need From a Fractional CMO

17:30 You Don't Need to Know Every Area of Marketing

19:00 The Questions I Ask to Build a Marketing Strategy

21:20 The 4 Qualities of Great Fractional CMOs

22:40 Find Your Unique Strengths as a Marketing Leader

24:15 Stop Questioning Your Background

Finding Your Ideal Fractional CMO Clients (And Red Flags to Avoid)04 Nov 202500:18:40

Not every client is a fit for a Fractional CMO — and the wrong ones can derail your business, your confidence, and your sanity.

When you’re building your Fractional CMO business, it’s easy to say yes to anyone who wants to hire you. But fit matters more than opportunity. The right clients make your work easier, your results stronger, and your business more sustainable.

In this episode, I’m breaking down:

  • How to identify your ideal clients as a Fractional CMO
  • The red flags that signal a partnership won’t work
  • The hard lessons I learned from saying yes when I shouldn’t have
  • And the filters I now use to choose clients wisely

If you want to attract clients who truly value your leadership, and build a business that feels as good as it looks, this episode is for you.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Finding Your Ideal Fractional CMO Clients

01:20 #1: Does the Client Have Enough Revenue?

03:05 Why Profit Margins Matter

04:55 Do You Want to Be the “Fix-It” CMO?

06:30 #2: Do They Have the Right Marketing Team?

09:10 The Client Mistake That Made Results Impossible

10:20 #3: Does Their Business Model Fit Your Lifestyle?

12:05 #4: What Stage Is the Business In?

13:20 Why Product-Market Fit Changes Everything

14:50 #5: Trust the Vibes & Your Intuition

16:20 The Client Red Flag I’ll Never Ignore Again

17:45 No Amount of Money Is Worth the Wrong Client

18:15 The Wrong Client Can Make You Question Everything

Why You Need a Niche as a Fractional CMO (Even If You Don’t Want One)28 Oct 202500:13:06

When I first started as a Fractional CMO, I did not want to niche. I was scared it would limit my opportunities, make me miss out on clients, or box me into something I’d get bored of. But the truth is — niching was such a catalyst to my growth.

In this episode, I’m sharing:

  • What happened when I tried to serve everyone
  • How I tested different niches behind the scenes
  • Why I eventually chose a niche and how it was the catalyst to growth (AND time freedom)

If you’re still figuring out your niche — or resisting the idea altogether — this episode will help you see why narrowing your focus might be the best move you can make.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → http://www.fractional-cmo-school.com/

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why You Need a Niche as a Fractional CMO

01:20 Why I Was So Resistant to Niching

02:50 The Problem With Trying to Serve Everyone

04:05 My Secret Way to Test a Niche

05:25 How Niching Makes Finding Clients Easier

07:05 You’re Allowed to Change Your Niche

08:05 How I Finally Found My Fractional CMO Niche

09:05 Benefit #1: Build Repeatable Systems & Processes

10:15 Benefit #2: Become a Better Fractional CMO

11:05 Benefit #3: Become Known for Something

12:20 Why Niching Became My Competitive Advantage

12:45 Test Your Niche Before You Commit

Rewire Your Subconscious for Business Growth with Mindi Huebner21 Oct 202500:56:01

You can have the best strategy in the world, but if your subconscious isn’t on board, you’ll find yourself spinning in the same patterns.

In this episode of CMO School, I sit down with Mindi Huebner to unpack the identity shifts and subconscious rewiring that allow high-achieving women to grow businesses that feel as good as they look.

We talk about:

  • Why strategy alone won’t work if your subconscious is stuck in old patterns
  • How to spot the limiting beliefs and identities running your business behind the scenes
  • Common conditioning loops like “rest is lazy” or “my worth = my output”
  • Small steps you can take today to start rewiring your subconscious and closing the “identity gap”

If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing everything “right” but still not getting where you want to go, this conversation will help you understand why, and what to do differently.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently lead, land high-ticket clients, and build the business you want.

🎓 Learn More → Fractional CMO School

Episode Resources:


TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Why Strategy Alone Isn't Enough

01:12 Meet Mindi Huebner

05:06 When Your Worth Is Tied to Your Output

09:14 Where Your Subconscious Beliefs Come From

13:41 Your Brain Is Always Trying to Prove You Right

15:17 How to Identify Your Limiting Beliefs

17:50 The First Step to Changing Your Identity

19:26 How to Spot the Beliefs Holding You Back

21:16 The Identity Gap: Who You Are vs. Who You Want to Be

23:00 The Limiting Belief That Was Blocking a $1M Business

25:43 You're Not Broken—and You're Never Done

27:48 Every Identity Has a Role and a Goal

29:46 Hustle vs. Rest: Integrating Conflicting Identities

33:04 Start Becoming Your Future Self Now

37:29 The "24 Karat" Future-Self Exercise

38:57 Stop the Guilt & Shame Spiral

39:48 Your Language Is Shaping Your Identity

42:39 How to Actually Rewire Limiting Beliefs

45:36 Stop Chasing Someone Else's Version of Success

48:03 How to Release the Emotional Charge Behind Fear

49:03 How Quickly Can You Change a Limiting Belief?

52:40 Two Things You Can Do Today

54:02 Where to Connect with Mindi

How I Got Started As A Fractional CMO (and Why I Built Fractional CMO School)14 Oct 202500:19:31

I get asked all the time how I got started as a Fractional CMO — what background you need, what steps to take, and what I’ve learned along the way.

So today, I’m breaking it all down for you. In this episode I’ll be sharing:

  • My career background and how it set me up to become a Fractional CMO
  • The misconception I had around my own experience and readiness for this role
  • The early months of trial and error — what I tried, what worked, and what didn’t
  • The biggest lessons I learned in that first year
  • And ultimately, what led me to create Fractional CMO School and help other marketers build their own thriving businesses as Fractional CMOs

If you’ve been curious about becoming a Fractional CMO, or you’re already in the role and figuring it out as you go, this episode gives you a real behind-the-scenes look at how to get started.

Ready to take the next step?

If you’re ready to step into the Fractional CMO role but want support as you do it, Fractional CMO School is a 6-month coaching program + community to help you confidently land high-ticket clients and build a 6-figure (and beyond) business as a Fractional CMO.

🎓 Learn More → Fractional CMO School

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 How I Got Started as a Fractional CMO

01:20 The Career Experience That Prepared Me for This Role

03:15 Why Corporate Burnout Changed Everything

05:10 Becoming a Mom Changed What I Wanted From Work

06:40 Starting My Own Business on Maternity Leave

08:05 I Had No Idea What My “Superpower” Was

09:15 The Work I Realized I Was Actually Best At

10:15 Discovering the Fractional CMO Role

11:10 How I Learned What Fractional CMOs Actually Do

12:45 The Investment That Gave Me Confidence

14:10 Charging $10K–$15K/Month Felt Possible

15:05 What My Fractional CMO Training Didn't Teach Me

16:00 My First Year Was a LOT of Trial and Error

17:05 Why I Eventually Built Fractional CMO School

18:20 Helping Other CMOs Avoid the Mistakes I Made

19:00 Build a Fractional CMO Business Without the Burnout

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