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CMO Confidential
Mike Linton // I Hear Everything Podcast Network
Frequency: 1 episode/7d. Total Eps: 168

Wonder what it's like to control millions of dollars of marketing budget? Manage hundreds of people? Make the decisions on which ideas get to market?
The CMO Confidential podcast shares how it feels to be in that chair of the shortest-tenured position on the C-suite.
We detail the long, hard road most ideas take to get to market & how challenging it is to get the best ones through.
Hosted by Mike Linton -- the former P&G Brand Manager who went on to be the Chief Marketing Officer of Best Buy, eBay, and Farmers Insurance, as well as the Chief Revenue Officer of Ancestry.com and the head marketer at Remington -- this show serves as an ongoing lesson plan for how to get, do, keep, and handle the pressures of the CMO job.
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Daniel McCarthy | CMO Confidential | The Rise & Fall of Peloton as Seen Through the Eyes of CLTV
Episode 82
mardi 27 août 2024 • Duration 35:48
A CMO Confidential Interview with Dr. Dan McCarthy, Professor of Marketing at Maryland. Dan uses a customer lifetime value (CLTV) analysis to show how Peloton's pursuit of growth after a very successful launch negatively impacted its financials and cratered its stock price, leaving its future uncertain. Key decision points include: misreading Covid trends as a permanent demand shift; price decreases which backfired; the importance of cohort analysis and churn rates; and the unintended consequences of chasing growth through rowers and treadmills. Tune in to learn why "Valuation is a painkiller" and "Everything can be good, but it comes at a price."
Dive into the dramatic journey of Peloton in our latest episode of CMO Confidential, "Peloton's Rise & Fall: What Marketers Must Learn." Hosted by Mike Linton, former CMO of Best Buy and eBay, this episode features Dr. Dan McCarthy, a tenured professor at the University of Maryland and a pioneer in customer lifetime value (CLTV) analytics. Key topics include Peloton's strategic missteps, the impact of aggressive growth strategies, and the essential lessons marketers can draw from this cautionary tale. Tune in to hear Dr. McCarthy's expert analysis on how Peloton's quest for rapid expansion led to a significant downturn, and what this means for marketers navigating similar challenges. Learn how to balance growth with profitability and the importance of understanding your total addressable market. This insightful discussion also explores the role of customer acquisition costs and retention strategies in sustaining business success. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more invaluable marketing insights and stay ahead in the ever-evolving marketing landscape!
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - Dan McCarthy
02:00 - Customer Lifetime Value
05:20 - Peloton Story
10:40 - Data Sources
12:14 - Peloton's Evolving Strategy
17:34 - Profitability Analysis: Peloton's Price Cut Impact
19:30 - Overhead Expenses and CLV Impact
21:35 - Peloton's Growth Strategy Insights
25:27 - Communicating Growth Challenges to Management
29:55 - Valuation as a Business Strategy
32:50 - Peloton's Strategic Decisions
33:29 - Practical Audience Advice
33:30 - Closing
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Karna Crawford | CMO Confidential | The Customer Loyalty Crisis & What to Do About It
Episode 81
mardi 20 août 2024 • Duration 32:37
A CMO Confidential Interview with Karna Crawford, CMO of Marqeta, formerly SVP at JPMorgan Chase, and Head of US Marketing at Ford. Karna discusses how a number of factors have created more "promiscuous customers," the challenge of constantly delivering against rising value expectations, and why the marketplace has left many companies behind in the loyalty race. Key topics include: how companies become overly focused on acquisition and ignore churn; how the core principles of loyalty apply to both B2B and B2C; and why GAP and United are examples of how not to solve the issue. Tune in to hear a business comparison to the 5 Love Languages.
Dive into "The Loyalty Crisis: What CMOs Must Do NOW!" with Mike Linton on CMO Confidential. Tune in to hear marketing expert Karna Crawford, CMO of Marketa, discuss the pressing issue of declining customer loyalty. Key topics include defining customer loyalty, the rise of brand promiscuity, and how companies can leverage AI to personalize customer experiences. Karna draws on her extensive experience from roles at JPMorgan, Moxie, and Ford to provide actionable insights for marketers. Discover how to balance customer acquisition with retention and the importance of building brand love. Don't miss this engaging discussion to enhance your marketing strategy and leadership skills. Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for Exclusive Content and stay ahead in the dynamic world of marketing.
#RetainingCustomerLoyalty #MarketingLeadership #LoyaltyPrograms #LoyaltyProgramsForBrands #AiInMarketing
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:34 - Understanding Loyalty in Business
06:00 - Common Missteps by Companies
11:32 - Strategies for Marketers to Reach C-Suite
16:14 - Effective Use of AI in Marketing
21:02 - Differences Between B2B and B2C Marketing
24:26 - Marketing Horror Story
29:47 - Final Thoughts and Questions
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What Your CFO Wants to Tell You But Won't | Scott Lindquist | CMO Confidential
Episode 70
mardi 11 juin 2024 • Duration 31:34
A CMO Confidential Interview with Scott Lindquist, CFO for CNA Financial Corp, former CFO of Farmers Insurance and PwC Partner. Scott discusses the wide variety of CFO's, why insurance became a marketing hothouse, the importance of marketing math, and how to manage the Marketing CFO position. Key topics include: how investing in brands is a leap of faith; tips for presenting to boards, why he viewed himself as the "Chief Fun Officer;" and why he believes brands matter. Tune in to hear a great discussion on how to evaluate marketing investment through a cost of capital exercise.
Discover the secrets of successful marketing CFOs in this episode of CMO Confidential, hosted by five-time CMO Mike Linton. Tune in to hear from Scott Linquist, the experienced Chief Financial Officer of CNA Financial, who shares invaluable insights into the complex relationship between CFOs and CMOs. Starting his career at Price Waterhouse Coopers and holding the CFO position at Farmers Insurance for over 13 years, Scott provides a unique perspective on the strategic partnership necessary for successful marketing.
Key topics include:
- The diverse roles of CFOs in the marketplace
- The importance of strategic alignment between CFOs and CEOs
- The evolution of marketing in the insurance industry
- Practical advice for CMOs on building relationships with CFOs
- How to effectively present marketing strategies and data to the finance community
Scott also delves into the critical aspects of marketing math, brand valuation, and the dynamics of customer lifetime value. Don’t miss this engaging and informative discussion that’s packed with practical advice and expert insights.
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#CmoMikeLinton #MarketingPodcast #MarketingLeadership #InsuranceMarketing #CfoMarketingTips
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Meet Scott
1:52 - What Kind of CFOs are Out There
5:12 - Marketing in the Insurance Industry
7:49 - How the Industry Got to Where it is Today
12:38 - Moving from B2C to B2B
14:47 - How to Onboard the CFO
18:12 - How Did You Become a Marketing Believer
21:05 - How to Get a CFO to Believe in Marketing
23:00 - Best and Worst Practices for Marketing Presentations
25:25 - Managing the Marketing CFO
27:18 - Last Question: Funniest Story and Practical Advice
30:33 - Outro
30:49 - Like, Share, Subscribe
30:50 - Where to Find Our Shows
31:21 - Mike Linton Sign Off
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An Update From the the B2B Marketing Front Lines | Carilu Dietrich
Episode 69
mardi 4 juin 2024 • Duration 29:59
CMO Confidential correspondent Carilu Deitrich, former CMO and hypergrowth advisor who helped take Atlassian public, joins us for the 4th time to talk about the ongoing challenge in the B2B space. Carilu discusses why business growth is slow for everything but AI and cybersecurity, and her belief that many players are fatigued after a long drive to improve efficiency during what she calls a "B2B Tech Recession." Key topics include: her obsession with sales; why "without a data strategy, you can't have an AI strategy;" and how aggressive companies are focused on growth and poaching talent. Tune in to hear why CMO's should focus on sales, growth insights, innovation and data.
Welcome to another insightful episode of CMO Confidential, where we dive deep into AI in B2B marketing with Carilu Dietrich, former CMO of Atlassian and advisor to hypergrowth startups like Bill.com, 1Password, and Sprout Social. In this episode, hosted by 5-time CMO Mike Linton, we explore the dynamic strategies top CMOs are implementing right now to navigate the rapidly evolving landscape of B2B marketing.
Key topics include:
- The integration and impact of AI in B2B marketing
- Navigating cybersecurity challenges in today’s market
- Effective strategies for retaining and expanding customer bases
- The importance of innovation and strategic investment in driving growth
Tune in to hear Carilu's expert insights on how leading companies are leveraging AI to enhance efficiency and product effectiveness, and learn practical advice on aligning marketing and sales strategies for maximum impact. Don’t miss her take on the critical role of data management and how to prepare your team for the next generation of AI-driven marketing.
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#ChiefMarketingOfficer #CmoConfidential #CybersecurityTrends #DataDrivenMarketing #CarrieLouDietrich
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:24 - What's going on in B2B
5:29 - How AI is changing B2B
11:00 - What elite companies do in tough times
14:28 - How to make marketing valuable in a downturn
20:30 - Get your data in order
23:20 - What should marketers and their agencies be thinking about or doing for the remainder of this year
26:33 - Last question: What is the funniest story you can tell on the air or practical advice we haven’t talked about yet
29:08 - OUTRO
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A Consultant Turns Professor Discusses the B-School Curriculum | Lynne Segall |
Episode 68
mardi 21 mai 2024 • Duration 36:11
A CMO Confidential Interview with Lynne Segall, Associate Dean at the Goizueta Business School at Emory University, formerly the Director of Talent and Organization Offering Development at Accenture. Lynne discusses the importance of students learning technical and theoretical skills along with the "harder to teach" softer skills like "how to get stuff done," the differences between Millennials and Gen Z, and why core conceptual classes still matter. Key topics include: why experiential learning is so important but so hard to teach; why she pushes students to "fully define the problem" to be solved; and some of the barriers slowing development of new b-school curricula. Tune in to hear why "good showmanship" can't cover up poor thinking.
#CMO #BusinessPodcast #MarketingSuccess #LeadershipDevelopment #MarketingTechniques
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Lynn Seagull Introduction
1:40 - Are B-Schools Keeping Up with the Market Trends
5:20 - Lynn's Business Classes
11:00 - Showmanship in Business
12:22 - Business Schools: Teaching "C" Skills Over Functions
17:28 - Evaluating Leadership Skills
18:08 - Desired Business School Curriculum by Companies
19:58 - Gaps in Business School Education
21:50 - Scaling Business Education
26:26 - Experiential Learning in Business
31:40 - Practical Advice for Business Students
32:10 - Practical Career Advice
32:35 - Funniest Business Story
35:22 - Sign Off
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What Marketers Talk About Behind Closed Doors | The Artificial Intelligence Edition | Babs Rangaiah
Episode 67
mardi 14 mai 2024 • Duration 37:37
In this episode, "What Marketers Talk About Behind Closed Doors | The Artificial Intelligence Edition," host Mike Linton, a five-time CMO, sits down with the illustrious Babs Rangaiah. Babs, the founder of CCBabs and a CMO Coach, delves deep into the pressing issues keeping today's marketers awake at night.
Key topics include the impact of artificial intelligence on marketing strategies, the transformation of data and martech in a post-cookie world, and the evolving media landscape with platforms like TikTok and CTV. Babs also shares insights from his extensive career, including his work with IBM's Watson and his role in launching Paramount Plus.
Tune in to hear Babs Rangaiah's expert advice on navigating the challenges and opportunities presented by AI, data management, and new media. Learn what top CMOs are saying about the future of marketing and how to stay ahead of the curve in this dynamic industry.
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#CustomerInsights #MarketingDecisions #MarketingChallenges #CommunicationSkills #MarketIntelligence
#WorkforceChanges #SmallCompanyAi #HumanSkillsDevelopment #CtvAdvertising #CommunicationSkills
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:44 - What keeps CMOs up at night
7:17 - The new media landscape
10:22 - Remote work
14:09 - The CMO Role
16:48 - AI in Marketing
23:02 - Best AI pilots
27:27 - Do you always need a human in the loop
29:40 - What human skills will be most important in the future
31:34 - Reframing
34:45 - Practical advice
36:48 - Outro
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Is Artificial Intelligence An Extinction Event For Marketing Agencies | Paul Roetzer |
Episode 66
mardi 7 mai 2024 • Duration 35:04
A CMO Confidential Interview with Paul Roetzer, Founder of the Marketing AI Institute and author of Marketing Artificial Intelligence. Paul discusses the rapid growth of the AI business, early impacts on agencies and marketing organizations, why you should be careful using AI with customer interactions, and how things will evolve to handle a "string of actions" versus specific tasks. Key topics include: why you should create an "AI Council" to stay on top of current and future innovations; why he thinks there will be AI Native agencies and AI Emergent agencies and all others will be obsolete; and how creating a roadmap allows you to think through the tech stack, employee capabilities and your partner ecosystem. Tune in to hear tips for interviewing and selecting AI vendors.
#ai #aimarketing #marketingagency
00:00 Introduction to CMO Confidential Podcast
00:39 Meet Paul Reitzer: AI in Marketing Expert
00:42 AI's Impact on the Marketing and Agency World
01:59 Understanding AI's Current State and Future Potential
05:13 Generative AI: Capabilities and Limitations
10:36 AI's Legal and Practical Challenges for Agencies
10:54 The Future of Agencies in an AI-Driven World
32:02 Advice for Agencies and Marketers Navigating AI
32:27 Closing Thoughts and Practical AI Advice
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Are Business Schools Preparing Marketers for the Real World? | Mike Kitz | CMO Confidential |
Episode 65
mardi 30 avril 2024 • Duration 28:05
A CMO Confidential interview with Mike Kitz, Notre Dame Professor, former CMO of Office Max and P&G Brand Manager. Mike discusses the best ways to optimize your in school experience, why the abundance of marketing data may be crowding out long-term thinking, and the importance of learning "integration skills." Key topics include: the value of leadership and influencing skills; why presentation skills matter; and why "curiosity" is one of the best predictors of success. Tune in to hear how he made the switch from the C-Suite to academia.
00:00 Welcome to CMO Confidential: Inside the World of Chief Marketing Officers
00:43 The Real-World Readiness of Business School Marketers
01:40 The Evolution of Marketing: From Creativity to Data-Driven Decisions
04:22 Business School Curriculum: Is It Keeping Up with the Marketing World?
06:31 The Importance of Soft Skills and Leadership in Marketing Education
18:48 From Classroom to Career: Transitioning from Marketing Professional to Academic
23:52 Final Thoughts and Advice for Aspiring Marketers
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Tales From the Marketing Crypt - A Recovering CMO Tells All | Maryam Banikaraim | CMO Confidential |
Episode 64
mardi 23 avril 2024 • Duration 37:43
A CMO Confidential Interview with Maryam Banikarim, Managing Director of Most Powerful Women + Brainstorm Tech at Fortune, formerly the CMO of Hyatt Hotels, Nextdoor, Gannett, NBCU, and Univision. Maryam discusses what it's like to be a company's first chief marketing person, how to bring a boss who doesn't know marketing along, bridging the generational digital divide, and how tech really doesn't believe in marketing. Key topics include: why you should say yes to hard things; looking for "clues" during the interview; how success at your job doesn't protect you from company politics; and from her TED talk -- how to see life's obstacles as an obstacle course.
Watch Maryam's @TEDx https://www.ted.com/talks/maryam_banikarim_life_s_an_obstacle_course_here_s_how_to_navigate_it?language=en
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00:00 Introduction to CMO Confidential
00:37 Meet the Guest: Mariam Bannikarim's Marketing Journey
01:54 The Ever-Changing State of Marketing
03:40 Navigating the CMO Role: Challenges and Strategies
05:47 Embracing Digital Transformation in Marketing
07:33 The Importance of Continuous Learning and Adaptation
14:26 Tales from the CMO Crypt: Overcoming Obstacles
20:44 Navigating Misinformation in Marketing
20:58 The Power of Sharing Knowledge in Competitive Fields
21:22 Understanding the Long-Term Value of Branding
21:50 The Challenges of Marketing in Tech Companies
22:15 Crisis Management and the Importance of Preparation
23:03 Insights from a Marketing Career: Recognizing Red Flags
26:13 Embracing Challenges and the Journey of Self-Discovery
29:43 Building Community and Reimagining Business in a Changing World
31:56 The Journey from CMO to Community Builder
34:36 Concluding Thoughts and Practical Advice
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The Case For Customer Lifetime Value - Why Is This So Hard? | Daniel McCarthy | CMO Confidential |
Episode 62
lundi 15 avril 2024 • Duration 40:47
A CMO Confidential Interview with Dr. Daniel McCarthy, Assistant Professor of Marketing at Emory's Goizueta Business School. Dan discusses how marketing has recently taken its knocks, why he created a CLTV class, how companies can start developing their own models, and how customer math can be used to increase marketing accountability. Key topics include: why it is challenging to agree on key modeling variables like acquisition cost; how CLTV can bridge the translation gap between marketers and finance; and why business schools are slow to evolve. Tune in to hear Warby Parker and Wayfair case studies.
#customerlifetimevalue #marketing #marketingdata
00:00 Welcome to CMO Confidential: Inside the World of Chief Marketing Officers
00:40 Introducing Dr. Dan McCarthy: The Genius Behind Customer Lifetime Value
01:38 The Marketing Landscape: Challenges and Changes in the Digital Age
03:46 Deep Dive into Customer Lifetime Value (CLV) with Dr. McCarthy
06:20 The Practicalities of CLV: From Theory to Application
12:20 The Journey of Creating a CLV Course: Inspiration and Impact
14:10 The Slow Evolution of Business School Curriculums in the Digital Era
18:45 CLV in Practice: Warby Parker Case Study
24:56 The Importance of Language and Disclosure in Marketing
27:44 Advice for Marketers: Embracing Financial Acumen
30:22 Compensation and Accountability in Marketing Departments
36:58 Dan McCarthy's Personal Anecdotes and Final Thoughts
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