The “Closer to the Fire” podcast addresses the persecution of Christians in various restricted nations around the world. By presenting informative interviews with Christian leaders on the front lines, this regular podcast serves to raise awareness, support and prayer on behalf of those who are suffering for their faith in Jesus.
“Closer to the Fire” is produced by The Voice of the Martyrs Canada, a non-profit organization that has served persecuted Christians for more than 50 years. To learn more about the ministry of VOM Canada, go to www.vomcanada.com
Hosted by longtime television broadcaster Greg Musselman, who also represents VOM Canada as the organization’s Minister-at-Large, this podcast will keep you up to date on the latest global situations involving today’s persecuted church. Greg joined VOM Canada in 2003 and, over the years, he has interviewed hundreds of persecuted Christians during his extensive international travels.
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Season 5: Episode 10: Vietnam: Christians Face Opposition and Violence
Season 5 · Episode 10
Friday, February 7, 2025 • Duration 32:02
Several followers of Jesus have recently experienced situations of severe persecution in the Southeast Asian country of Vietnam. In one recent case, a house church leader identified as Brother Ting was tragically killed after he refused to stop holding worship meetings. A week after Brother Ting was murdered, his wife Mar was found dead in her home, leaving the couple’s children orphaned.
Paul Paduhiloa, who serves as the Project Partner Manager for Voice of the Martyrs Australia, joins Closer to the Fire host Greg Musselman to discuss why Christians are encountering escalating opposition in many rural communities throughout this Communist nation. During their conversation, Paul explains how the global body of Christ is coming alongside persecuted Vietnamese believers to provide greatly needed support, relief and encouragement. He also describes the specific ways in which VOM Australia is supplying financial and emotional support to the traumatized children of Brother Ting and Mar.
Length: 32 minutes
To Watch the interview with Paul Paduhiloa https://vomcanada.com/cttf-videos/video/cttf-vn-2025-02-06.htm
Episode Notes
Voice of the Martyrs Australia: www.vom.com.au
Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com
Season 5: Episode 9: India: Anti-Conversion Laws Used Against Christians
Season 5 · Episode 9
Friday, January 24, 2025 • Duration 52:14
According to recently published reports, anti-conversion laws may soon be enacted in the northern Indian state of Rajasthan. Members of the state legislature are presently considering a newly proposed law that would make so-called “forced conversions” illegal and require anyone who seeks to convert to Christianity – or any other religion outside of Hinduism – to notify officials at least 60 days in advance.
In this episode of the Closer to the Fire podcast, host Greg Musselman is joined by Rev. Sudhakar Mondithoka, who serves as Principal and Director for the Hyderabad Institute of Theology and Apologetics in Hyderabad, India. During their conversation, Rev. Mondithoka discusses the newly proposed law and what it could mean for Christian believers living in Rajasthan.
Rev. Mondithoka also provides insight into the history of anti-conversion legislation in India, how it's being used against Christians, and the effect it's having on followers of Christ throughout this South Asian nation. In the midst of these challenges, he emphasizes the need for believers to rely on the Lord’s wisdom as they seek to share their faith with those in their communities and beyond.
Length: 58 minutes
Episode Notes
To view the interview with Rev. Sudhakar Mondithoka https://www.vomcanada.com/cttf-videos/video/cttf-in-2025-01-23.htm
Hyderabad Institute of Theology and Apologetics: https://hitha.org
Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com
Season 5: Episode 8: The Mission of VOM Canada: Looking Back and Looking Ahead
Season 5 · Episode 8
Friday, January 3, 2025 • Duration 45:58
For over 50 years, the Voice of the Martyrs Canada has been serving the persecuted church worldwide. In this episode of the Closer to the Fire podcast, host Greg Musselman is joined by Floyd Brobbel, the Chief Executive Officer for VOM Canada. We invite you to tune in as they look back at what the ministry has accomplished throughout 2024, and then look ahead to some of the opportunities that will be available in 2025 to encourage and embolden Christ's followers in the world’s hostile and restricted countries. Floyd will also talk about the motivation for writing his most recently published book, United in Prayer.
Length 46:00
Episode Notes
To watch the interview with Floyd Brobbel https://vomcanada.com/fromvomc/video/vomc-2025-01-02.htm
For more information on Floyd’s books:
United In Prayer: store.vomcanada.org/category/new/united-in-prayer
Trouble on the Way store.vomcanada.org/category/all/books/trouble-on-the-way
Trouble on the Way Study Guide: store.vomcanada.org/category/all/books/trouble-on-the-way-study-guide
Season 5: Episode 7: Afghanistan: Opportunities for the Gospel Amid Challenges
Season 5 · Episode 7
Friday, December 20, 2024 • Duration 50:27
During recent years, the international community has witnessed the scope of the Taliban’s brutal rule in Afghanistan since the militant group regained power over the nation in August 2021. Amid the Taliban’s draconian restrictions on the rights of women and girls – together with the use of arbitrary arrest and detention, plus enforced disappearance and torture – the militants insist that there are now no Christians residing in the country. Most house churches that existed before the Taliban’s takeover have since been closed, forcing many believers to either flee the country or go even further underground.
In this edition of Closer to the Fire, host Greg Musselman is joined by Brother Adib, an Afghan Christian leader who currently resides in Canada. Adib shares how he came into a relationship with Jesus in 2006, the opposition he faced for his decision to leave Islam, and how he escaped Afghanistan with his family. Adib also explains why he is so passionate about reaching Afghans with the Gospel message here in Canada – as well as in Afghanistan and other nations around the world – through his ministry work with the Jesus Network and Afghan Church of Toronto.
Length: 50 minutes
To view the interview with Adib Maxwell https://vomcanada.com/af-videos/video/af-opportunities-gospel.htm
Episode Notes
Jesus Network: www.jesusnetwork.ca
Afghan Church of Toronto: www.afghanchurch.ca
Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com
Season 5: Episode 6: Pakistan: Strengthening the Embattled Church
Season 5 · Episode 6
Tuesday, December 10, 2024 • Duration 37:21
The church in Pakistan faces opposition and persecution in numerous ways. Not only are the country’s notorious blasphemy laws being used to target the Christian minority, each year thereare hundreds of cases in which individual Christian girls have been abducted, abused, forcefully married, and/or converted to Islam against their wills. Additionally, churches that engage in outreach activities are prone to opposition.
In November, Greg Musselman and his ministry colleague Stephen Wesley travelled to Lahore to teach VOMC’s Theology of Persecution and Discipleship course to over 30 local pastors. During their trip, Greg and Stephen also visited a brickyard where they met and interviewed modern-day Christian slaves. They then travelled to Jaranwala, a city in Punjab province, where 26 churches and more than 100 buildings and homes belonging to Christians were destroyed due to blasphemy allegations in August 2023.
During this episode of the Closer to the Fire podcast, Greg and Stephen discuss their recent experiences in Pakistan and how – despite the many challenges facing the church in this primarily Islamic country – God’s Kingdom is continually moving forward.
Length: 37 minutes
To View the interview with Stephen Wesley https://www.vomcanada.com/cttf-videos/video/ctff-pk-strengthening-embattled.htm
Episode Notes
Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com
Season 5: Episode 5: Democratic Republic of the Congo: Ten Years of Severe Persecution
Season 5 · Episode 5
Friday, November 15, 2024 • Duration 39:46
While the Democratic Republic of the Congo is home to one of Africa's largest Christian-majority populations, militant Muslim groups severely persecute believers along the nation's eastern border with Uganda. When rebels capture groups of people, they often release the Muslims while killing any Christians who refuse to convert to the Islamic faith. Amid the ongoing violence, the church in this war-torn country is under immense pressure.
Dr. David Kasali serves as the founder of the Congo Initiative, a Christ-centred educational institution that seeks to bring spiritual transformation to the country. He joins Closer to the Fire host Greg Musselman to discuss the violent attacks on followers of Jesus in the DRC, the many other challenges facing the nation’s believers, and the reasons why he chose to return to such a dangerous place despite the risks.
Length: 40 minutes
Episode Notes
To view the interview with Dr. Kasali https://www.vomcanada.com/cttf-videos/video/cttf-cd-ten-years.htm
Congo Initiative: https://congoinitiative.org
Pray for the Democratic Republic of the Congo: https://www.vomcanada.com/drc.htm
Season 5: Episode 4: Malaysia: Where is Pastor Raymond Koh?
Season 5 · Episode 4
Thursday, October 31, 2024 • Duration 27:18
On February 13th, 2017, a Malaysian pastor named Raymond Koh was kidnapped in broad daylight by a group of men in the greater Kaula Lumpur area while on his way to a friend's house. The incident was captured on CCTV cameras, providing evidence that least 15 men in three black SUVs were part of the abduction. More than seven years later, his wife Susanna continues to search tirelessly for answers regarding her husband's disappearance.
Todd Nettleton, host of VOM Radio for the Voice of the Martyrs USA, has reported on the pastor’s mysterious disappearance ever since the incident took place, and then later interviewed Susanna Koh to hear her story. During this episode of Closer to the Fire, Todd joins podcast host Greg Musselman to address recent developments in the case and discuss whether Pastor Raymond may still be alive after all these years. During the interview, Todd also provides insight into the various challenges presently facing other followers of Jesus in Malaysia.
Length: 27 minutes
Episode Notes
To watch the interview with Todd Nettleton https://vomcanada.com/cttf-videos/video/cttf-my-wheres-koh.htm
To purchase your copy of Todd’s book, When Faith is Forbidden: 40 Days on the Frontline with Persecuted Christians, go to: https://store.vomcanada.org/purchase/when-faith-is-forbidden
Listen to VOM Radio at: https://www.vomradio.net
Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com
Season 5: Episode 3: Russia: Evangelical Believers “Fined for Faithfulness” (encore)
Season 5 · Episode 4
Tuesday, October 22, 2024 • Duration 51:39
In 2022, Christian activities across Russia – including gathering for worship, distributing Bibles and Christian literature, as well as personal evangelism – were investigated by Russian police and punished as crimes by Russian courts of law. Believers were forced to pay fines and, in most cases, those who challenged the court’s decisions lost their appeals. This trend of mounting opposition against the country’s Christian population is being closely monitored by The Voice of the Martyrs Korea.
Closer to the Fire host Greg Musselman is joined by Dr. Eric Foley, who serves as the CEO and Co-Founder of VOM Korea, to discuss the heightened persecution of evangelical Christians in Russia. Dr. Foley offers insight into how the invasion of Ukraine is affecting Russian believers and addresses how the church is navigating increased challenges amid the ongoing war. Additionally, he provides an update on the growing underground church in North Korea.
Length: 52 minutes
Episode Notes
To watch the interview with Dr. Foley
The Voice of the Martyrs Canada | Closer to the Fire - Russia: Evangelical Believers 'Fined for Faithfulness (vomcanada.com)
The Voice of the Martyrs Korea: www.vomkorea.com
Read VOMC’s latest Persecution & Prayer Alert report on Russia: https://www.vomcanada.com/ru-2023-02-02.htm
The Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com
Season 5: Episode 3: Eritrea: Christians Arrested Amid Latest Government Crackdown
Season 5 · Episode 3
Friday, October 4, 2024 • Duration 43:29
The latest crackdown against followers of Jesus in the East African nation of Eritrea has led to the arrest of more than 200 Christians – including children – within a span of 12 months. According to Dr. Berhane Asmelash, who serves as the Director of Release Eritrea (a ministry based in the United Kingdom), most of the recently arrested believers were taken from their homes without any warning, and some were even apprehended during the middle of the night. In multiple cases, entire families were taken into custody and remain in prison today.
Dr. Berhane joins Closer to the Fire host Greg Musselman to discuss these latest arrests and provide insight into why, after more than 20 years, persecution against the country’s evangelical Christians remains ongoing. Dr. Berhane also shares about his own experiences as a believer who formerly lived in Eritrea, where he was arrested, imprisoned and tortured for his faith in Jesus. Dr. Berhane’s moving story of faith is recounted in his recently published biography, Brother, I Have Come to Arrest You.
Length: 42 minutes
To view the full interview with Dr. Berhane Asmelash https://vomcanada.com/er-videos/video/er-government-crackdown.htm
To order your copy of Dr. Berhane’s newly published biography, visit: https://releaseinternational.org/product/brother-i-have-come-to-arrest-you/
Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com
Season 5: Episode 2: India: Christians Face Relentless Pressure to Convert to Hinduism
Season 5 · Episode 2
Friday, September 20, 2024 • Duration 37:12
Christians in India are finding themselves increasingly under the threat of violent persecution. The growing hostility is often driven by an ongoing belief among Hindu extremists that all Indians ought to be Hindu – and that the practise of any faith outside of Hinduism is not welcome in India. This mindset has led to numerous violent attacks across the country; crimes perpetrators of the violence are permitted to continue with impunity.
In this episode of Closer to the Fire, podcast host Greg Musselman speaks with Manorama Mallick, a believer from Odisha State who has suffered greatly for her faith. The Christian woman’s husband was tragically poisoned to death for being a follower of Christ, and Manorama herself was physically attacked for refusing to renounce her faith in Jesus. Even though the beating left her with significant hearing loss, this faithful Christian widow continues to serve the Lord today by providing greatly needed ministry to impoverished people living within the slums of Odisha State.
During the episode, Greg is also joined by Rev. John Sankara Rao of Divine Ministries India to discuss a recent incident in which 120 Christians were forced to “reconvert” to Hinduism in Odisha State. In addition, Rev. Rao shares an update on Dr. K.A. Swamy, an evangelist who was left in a nearly vegetative state after suffering a brutal attack by Hindu radicals during the year of 2017 for handing out Bibles on the streets of Hyderabad. To support Dr. Swamy’s journey to recovery, Voice of the Martyrs Canada has provided financial assistance for the injured Christian man’s medical expenses.
Length: 37 minutes
Episode Notes
Voice of the Martyrs Canada: www.vomcanada.com