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QuickBits: Trust, Accessibility, Recovery and a Deep Dive into Canada's 2026 Wildfire Season 05 Nov 202600:05:14

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Three recent episodes of the Wildfires, Floods and Chaos Communications Podcast are now available on video, including Episode 30 with Jen McEachen on accessibility in emergency management, Episode 31 with Gary Stronach on recovery following the Porter's Lake Fire, and Episode 32 with Kiki Cloutier on trust, trauma, and transparency in modern policing. 

This QuickBits update also includes a preview of an upcoming two-part deep dive into Canada's 2026 wildfire season featuring perspectives from an independent creator, a government communicator, and analysis of one of the most concentrated and destructive wildfire seasons in recent memory. Loree Duczek of the Regional District of East Kootenay shares insights on the importance of building trust and relationships before emergencies occur. 

Tim also reflects on a record-setting month for podcast downloads, discusses communications ethics and reputation management, and shares details about new training opportunities available through CanadianTraining.ca. 

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#CrisisCommunications #EmergencyManagement #Wildfires #PublicSafety #Policing #Accessibility #Recovery #Leadership #ReputationManagement #Communications

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Trust, Trauma and Transparency: Behind the Badge of Modern Policing | With Kiki Cloutier of the Police Association of Ontario15 Oct 202600:37:50

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Police services across Canada are navigating one of the most complex eras in modern history - rising targeted violence, shifting public trust, shrinking newsrooms, and a media landscape that moves faster than ever. In this episode, Tim Conrad welcomes Kiki Cloutier, Director of Communications and Public Affairs for the Police Association of Ontario, representing 33,000 officers across 46 member associations.

Kiki brings a candid, inside look at how police communicators manage trust, accountability, and transparency in moments when every message matters. From disturbing misconduct cases to the targeted killing of officers, she explains how internal communications unfold during violent attacks, how associations support members’ mental health, and why clear, accurate information is essential before anything goes public.

Together, Tim and Kiki explore the human side of policing - the families behind every badge, the emotional weight of regimental funerals, and the peer‑support networks that activate when tragedy strikes. They also dive into how police are adapting to the collapse of traditional media, the rise of misinformation, and the growing need to educate journalists who no longer have dedicated crime beats.

This conversation offers an inside, honest look at the realities facing police personnel today: the dangers, the scrutiny, the trauma, and the critical role of communication in keeping both officers and communities safe.

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Meta’s Paywall for Pages Arrives – Links Now Cost Money: Quickbits Chaos Update23 Sep 202600:11:25

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Meta just dropped a seismic shift across Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp - and it’s going to hit creators, businesses, and community pages hard. In this Quickbits Chaos Update, Tim Conrad breaks down Meta One, the new subscription model that puts a price tag on something we’ve all taken for granted: posting links to your own audience.

From $2.99 individual plans to business tiers reaching $149 to $499 per month just to add links to posts and reels, this update signals a major change in how social platforms will operate moving forward. Tim walks through what’s known, what’s missing, and what users are already experiencing as Meta quietly pushes users toward paid access.

This Quickbits Chaos update also digs into the bigger picture - AI expansion, platform lock‑in, and why “owned platforms” matter now more than ever. If you rely on Meta to reach your community, customers, or followers, this is a must‑listen.

Stay tuned for upcoming full episodes, including a conversation with Kiki Cloutier from the Police Association of Ontario.

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What I Wish I Knew Before the Fire: A Survivor’s Advice | With evacuee Gary Stronach17 Sep 202600:57:36

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In this episode of Wildfires, Floods and Chaos Communications, host Tim Conrad sits down with Gary Stronach, an evacuee from the 2008 Porters Lake wildfire in Nova Scotia. Gary shares a raw, deeply personal account of what it was like to be suddenly cut off from his home, unable to reach neighbours, and left searching for information as the fast‑moving fire surrounded Candy Mountain Road.

Through Gary’s story, we explore the communication gaps that evacuees faced, the importance of community connection during crisis, and the emotional toll that followed - including the survivor’s remorse that lingered for years. Gary reflects on the confusion of those first hours, the struggle to find accurate updates, and the powerful bond that helped his neighbourhood grieve and rebuild together.

This conversation offers practical advice for anyone facing a sudden evacuation: what to take, what to leave, how to stay calm, and why self‑reliance matters when official information is scarce. It’s a candid, heartfelt look at resilience, community, and the human side of emergency response.


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News from the wildfire:

Dartmouth-area forest fire was man-made, investigators say

Charges pending in NS forest fire 


See the 2008 Thank You video including footage from the wildfire https://youtu.be/Z-gyIkvCztc


Chapters

00:00 – Evacuation orders and first alerts  

01:12 – Community gratitude for firefighters and responders  

02:20 – Returning to the scene and recounting the fire’s path  

03:41 – Confusion as roads close and family can’t get home  

05:36 – Smoke on the horizon and being turned around at Highway 107  

06:41 – Seeing the fire crest the hill and speaking with RCMP  

08:28 – Viewing the fire across the lake and realizing homes were burning  

09:32 – First community meeting with limited resident‑focused information  

10:27 – Communication breakdown and inability to reach neighbours  

12:02 – Searching for neighbours and confirming their safety  

13:07 – Community strength, gratitude, and hand‑painted signs  

14:17 – Reconnecting with neighbours and tracking people down  

15:47 – Mental wellbeing message and crisis support resources  

17:00 – Word‑of‑mouth as the primary information source  

18:43 – Grieving together and the importance of community gatherings  

19:10 – Short‑term planning and self‑reliance during crisis  

20:38 – Advice for sudden evacuations: essentials, pets, calm thinking  

22:02 – Why self‑reliance matters during mass emergencies  

24:29 – Emergency response priorities: mass needs vs. individual needs  

26:13 – Emotional aftermath and survivor’s remorse  

27:47 – Loss, recovery, and neighbours rebuilding from nothing  

29:05 – Coping through connection and rum tastings with Clive  

30:29 – Closing segment and Canadian Training message

41:00 – Canadian Training platform overview and course offerings  

42:00 – Become the Broadcaster: confidence and communication training  

43:00 – Equipment guidance for new creators and broadcasters  

44:00 – Operational Communications: building high‑functioning emergency workflows  

45:00 – How structured training reduces stress during large‑scale emergencies  

46:00 – Upcoming 12‑week program beginning in October  

47:00 – Guiding learners through operational communication improvements  

48:00 – Course expansion plans and future learning modules  

49:00 – The role of education in crisis readiness and resilience  

50:00 – Closing reflections on community, communication, and preparedness

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QuickBits: New Episodes, 2026 Wildfire Recap, Gary Stronach’s Story and New Canadian Training15 Sep 202600:04:48

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This Quickbits update is packed. Tim shares details on two new episodes - including Gary Stronach’s powerful story of returning home after a major wildfire where homes on both sides of his property were destroyed, and Jenn McEachen’s upcoming accessibility video episode featuring an ASL interpreter.

Tim also announces the relaunch of CanadianTraining.ca, now home to dozens of courses including the 12‑week Operational Communications program and the Become the Broadcaster workshop. Pre‑sales are open, with a 30% discount using the code COMMUNICATIONSPODCAST.

This episode also marks a major milestone: 30 podcast episodes, over 24 hours of audio, and 16 hours of video. Tim recaps his summer wildfire fieldwork, including footage from three mega‑fires with helicopter and fixed‑wing attacks.

Finally, he invites listeners to submit guest ideas and future episode topics at CommunicationsPodcast.com.

Short, sharp, and full of momentum - a snapshot of everything happening across the Wildfires, Floods & Chaos Communications podcast.

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Nobody Left Behind: Emergency Management Through an Accessibility Lens | With Jen McEachen, a deafblind emergency manager28 Jul 202600:47:04

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Emergency alerts are supposed to reach everyone - but they don’t. In this episode, Tim Conrad speaks with Jen McEachen, a deafblind emergency management professional who has spent years identifying the gaps that leave millions of people behind during disasters. 

Jen shares what daily navigation looks like with deafblindness, why current public notification systems fail, and how simple changes - from ASL integration to accessible document formats - can dramatically improve safety for all communities. 

Together, they explore preparedness guides, evacuation challenges, nonprofit collaboration, and the intersection of disability with Indigenous and 2SLGBTQ+ needs. This conversation is a candid look at the barriers people with disabilities face in emergencies, and the practical steps local governments, First Nations, and crisis communicators can take to ensure nobody is left behind.

Resources:

Accessible Standards Canada - Federal Standards of Emergency Measures:

https://accessible.canada.ca/standards-and-technical-guides/standards-and-technical-guides-database/can-asc-64-emergency-measures

Federal Standards of Emergency Egress:

https://accessible.canada.ca/standards-and-technical-guides/standards-and-technical-guides-database/overview-can-asc-22-emergency-egress-exit

Accessible Canada Act:

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/programs/accessible-canada/act-summary.html

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When the Fire Wouldn’t Sleep: September’s Extreme Wildfire Behaviour and the Rise of First Nations Leadership with Fire Chief Paul McCarthy16 Jul 202600:43:35

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In this episode, Fire Chief Paul McCarthy of the 150 Mile Fire Department and Emergency Program Manager for the Williams Lake First Nation (WLFN), joins host Tim Conrad for a deep dive into one of the most unpredictable wildfire seasons in recent memory. Paul reflects on the “September surprise” — a period when calm forecasts collapsed overnight, fires ran kilometres in the dark, and emergency operations teams were forced to pivot every few minutes.

Knucwentwecw is a Secwepemctsin (Shuswap) word meaning "helping each other" or "working together physically and mentally. - Quoted within this episode.

Paul shares candid insights from inside the Cariboo Regional District Emergency Operations Centre, where he supported major evacuations, navigated rapidly shifting fire behaviour, and helped coordinate scarce resources across a vast region. He and Tim revisit the tense moments when wind‑driven fires threatened communities, barns, cultural sites, and entire valleys.

See the trailer for the Sugarcane documentary, a National Geographic Documentary Film based at the Sugarcane community (WLFN), a debut film by Julian Brave NoiseCat and Emily Kassie. 

The conversation also traces the evolution of First Nations emergency management over the past two decades — from being excluded from decision‑making to becoming essential partners with formal roles, agreements, and a legislated duty to consult. Paul highlights the strength, collaboration, and resilience he sees daily within Williams Lake First Nation, and how those values shape modern emergency response.

This episode blends frontline experience, leadership lessons, and a clear-eyed look at how wildfire seasons are changing — and how communities are adapting.

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Smoke, Schools, and Sudden Evacuation: Lessons from the 2008 Porters Lake Fire30 Jun 202600:45:35

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When the 2008 Porters Lake–Lake Echo wildfire tore through the suburbs east of Halifax, more than 5,000 people were forced to flee with only minutes to decide what mattered most. In this episode, Paula Danyluk‑MacDonald - evacuee, mother, neighbour, and principal of Atlantic View Elementary - shares her firsthand account of sudden evacuation, community fear, and the remarkable resilience that followed.

Paula describes the moment firefighters knocked on her door with five minutes to leave, the frantic search for family, the overwhelming tension at the evacuation centre, and the emotional return home to a neighbourhood changed forever. She also reflects on how the school community coped in the weeks and months afterward, how children processed the disaster, and how neighbours became lifelines.

This is a story of community strength, compassion, and the quiet leadership that emerges when everything familiar is suddenly at risk.

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Inside Tumbler Ridge: A Local Journalist on the Worst School Shooting in Canadian History18 Jun 202601:14:26

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On February 10, 2026, the peaceful mountain town of Tumbler Ridge, British Columbia faced the worst school shooting in Canadian history. In minutes, eight lives were taken at the community’s only secondary school and at the shooter's  home, two more were critically injured, and the town was thrust into a nightmare no one could have imagined.

In this episode of the Wildfires, Floods and Chaos Communications Podcast, host Tim Conrad speaks with Trent Ernst, publisher of The Tumbler RidgeLines and a long‑time resident who found himself reporting on an unimaginable tragedy in the community he calls home.

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Trent shares:

  • The moment he realized something was terribly wrong
  • What it was like to be the only local journalist on scene
  • How national and international media descended on the town
  • The tension between respectful reporting and harmful intrusion
  • The emotional toll on a tight‑knit community of 2,500 people
  • How Tumbler Ridge’s identity, history, and resilience shaped its response
  • The importance of community connection in the days that followed

This episode is not about the shooter. It is about community, loss, responsibility, and the people who remain.

What You’ll Learn

  • How small communities experience and process mass‑casualty events
  • The role and limits of local journalism during crisis
  • Why ethical communication matters when trauma is fresh
  • How responders, media, and outsiders can support or harm a grieving town
  • The deep emotional impact on those who both report on and live through tragedy

Content Warning

This episode discusses a school shooting, loss of life, and trauma. Listener discretion is advised.

CHAPTERS

Time | Chapter 
| 00:00 | Opening: The tragedy of February 10, 2026
| 00:27 | The victims and the first hours of confusion
| 01:18 | The peaceful identity of Tumbler Ridge
| 01:43 | Introducing guest - journalist and community member Trent Ernst
| 02:10 | “Something’s up at the school” - The first alert
| 02:33 | Arriving on scene and realizing the severity
| 03:18 | The emergency alert and early uncertainty
| 03:45 | Observing police response and waiting for clarity
| 04:37 | Leaving to recharge and regroup
| 05:06 | The moment the deaths were confirmed
| 05:28 | “The bottom fell out” - Emotional shock in a peaceful town
| 06:03 | Why community stories matter more than sensational headlines
| 07:12 | What Tumbler Ridge is really like: history, identity, and resilience
| 08:15 | The mining town that refused to disappear
| 09:11 | How the town became a true community
| 10:23 | Falling in love with the land and the people
| 12:27 | The two types of residents and what binds them
| 13:38 | Life in a remote, slow‑paced northern town
| 15:17 | Trails, nature, and the quiet beauty of the region
| 16:06 | The dinosaur tracks story
| 17:36 | Why Tumbler Ridge is a hidden Canadian treasure
| 18:24 | The influx of media after the shooting
| 19:45 | Doing interviews while trying to stay connected to the community
| 20:35 | The community centre becomes a healing hub
| 21:27 | Ethical vs. unethical media behaviour
| 22:45 | The backlash against intrusive reporters
| 23:39 | How tragedy reshaped Trent’s sense of connection
| 24:41 | Remembering that community matters most
| 26:03 | How locals treated Trent differently from outside media
| 27:01 | Respecting boundaries and letting people choose to speak
| 28:02 | The weight of knowing everyone in a small town
| 29:01 | Being both a reporter and a neighbour
| 29:20 | The conversations that now always lead back to “What happened?”

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Live Tuesday: Is it really Emergency Preparedness Week, and what motivates people? | With host Tim Conrad06 May 202601:09:21

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What motivates people to prepare for emergencies? Is this the best week for emergency preparedness - or are there greater opportunities lurking? Join Tim and the conversation, recorded Live on LinkedIn and YouTube. 

In this episode, Tim will share his thoughts on what emergency preparedness means for responders, on your property and in your community. He's going to share the knowledge he's collected over a few decades spent hanging around fire halls and during large disasters. 

00:00 Introduction to Emergency Preparedness Week
03:28 Acknowledging Indigenous Communities
06:23 The Importance of Emergency Preparedness
09:37 Emergency Operations Center Dynamics
13:02 Role of Politicians in Emergencies
19:35 Systems and Processes in Emergency Management
24:28 Security and Hacking in Crisis Situations
30:27 Redundancy and Team Preparedness
34:46 The Importance of Redundancy in Emergency Preparedness
35:56 Community Preparedness: The Fire Smart Initiative
42:27 Personal Property Preparedness: Insurance and Debris Management
48:53 Essential Safety Devices: Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Detectors
56:07 Motivating Community Preparedness: Insights from Pathways to Preparedness
01:03:51 Timing for Emergency Preparedness Messaging

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Live Friday on the Wildfires, Floods and Chaos Communications Podcast with Tim Conrad25 Apr 202600:50:59

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What's happening right now in crisis communications, emergency management, and issues management - and what should we be talking about? 

Live Fridays (could be any day as Tim tries this out) is your space to ask questions, share what you're seeing in the field, and join an honest, real-world conversation about how we prepare for, respond to, and communicate through disasters and crises - in Canada and beyond. 

Every Live, Tim Conrad, APR, opens the floor: bring your burning questions, a story from your week, a headline you can't stop thinking about, or a challenge you're navigating right now. Just the conversation this community wants.

Whether you work in emergency preparedness, public safety, crisis communications, or disaster recovery - this is your room.

Key Themes in this episode:

·         Groupthink Prevention

·         Public Engagement Strategies

·         Crisis Communication Protocols

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In this episode:

00:00 Introduction to Live Podcasting
02:20 Upcoming Events and Symposiums
05:01 Reflections on Past Wildfires
07:27 The Importance of Communication in Emergencies
10:04 Navigating Difficult Conversations
12:53 Challenging Groupthink in Crisis Management
15:16 Learning from Past Mistakes
18:04 The Role of Training in Emergency Preparedness
20:47 Workshops and Media Training
23:24 Conclusion and Future Plans
25:57 Mastering Public Engagement
26:38 The Importance of Public Participation
27:22 Indigenous Community Engagement
28:52 Crisis Management in Emergencies
33:35 Pathways to Preparedness Project
35:18 Current Emergency Situations in Canada
36:50 Self-Care for Responders
38:57 Video Production in Emergency Response
49:22 Acknowledging Emergency Responders

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Nobody Talks About Recovery Like Her | Meet BC's Recovery specialist Deb Borsos, and host Tim Conrad31 Mar 202600:58:30

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After a disaster, the world moves on, but communities don’t. In this episode of the Wildfires, Floods and Chaos Communications Podcast, host Tim Conrad talks with Deb Borsos, one of BC’s most respected recovery specialists, about what really happens after the emergency ends.

Deb shares decades of hard‑earned wisdom from wildfire zones, flood‑stricken towns, and remote communities in both Canada and Australia. She explains why communication failures can derail recovery, why communities need honesty instead of polished messaging, and how local leadership consistently outperforms outside contractors.

From daily unfiltered updates during wildfires to the rise of community‑led recovery movements like DisasterWise in Australia, Deb offers practical, grounded insights for anyone working in emergency management, communications, or local government.

If you want to truly understand recovery, this is the episode.

When disasters strike, response gets the spotlight, but recovery is where the real work begins. In this episode, host Tim Conrad sits down with Deb Borsos, one of British Columbia’s most respected recovery operations specialists, to talk about what actually happens after the cameras leave and the responders go home.

Deb brings decades of experience from rural BC to Australia’s remote communities. She shares candid insights on communication failures, community‑led recovery, the dangers of over‑promising, and why transparency matters more than polished messaging.

This conversation is a masterclass for emergency managers, communicators, elected officials, and anyone who cares about what happens after disaster headlines fade.

Resources offered by Deb:

Books - When the Dust Settles, Suzy Easthope; A Paradise Built in Hell, Rebecca Solnit

What You’ll Learn

  • Why communications is the weakest link in recovery — and how to fix it
  • How recovery begins during response, not after
  • Why communities need truth, not protection
  • The importance of local leadership vs. outside contractors
  • How Australia’s rural communities are redefining community‑led recovery
  • Why “build back better” often misses the mark
  • The power of timely, honest, unfiltered updates
  • How small communities can lead without being incorporated
  • Why responders must remember: you are a guest in someone else’s community

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From Evacuee to Emergency Manager: Robert Cosma on Indigenous Leadership | Indigenous perspectives from the First Nations Government leader, and host Tim Conrad, APR18 Mar 202601:07:31

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Episode Overview

In this powerful conversation, Indigenous emergency program manager Robert Cosma shares his journey from evacuee to one of the most respected emergency leaders in the Cariboo region. Robert speaks candidly about the realities of evacuations for First Nations communities, the cultural priorities that shape Indigenous emergency response, and why land, animals, and community must be protected together.

Episode Show Notes

Guest: Robert Cosma, Emergency Services Manager (former), Tŝilhqot’in National Government

Listen for:

00:00 — The Tŝilhqot’in Story and the Land
Colonial history, the Chilcotin War, smallpox, residential schools, and the path to self‑determination.

01:58 — Introducing Robert Cosma
Robert’s background, moving west, and how becoming an evacuee changed his life.

04:10 — From Evacuee to Emergency Manager
How 2017 shaped Robert’s mission to improve emergency response for First Nations.

06:20 — Family, Identity, and Learning from Elders
Stories of Roger Jimmie, cultural teachings, and the responsibility to future generations.

09:00 — Settler Mindsets vs. Indigenous Worldviews
Seven‑generation thinking, circles vs. boxes, and how perspective shifts change outcomes.

12:45 — Growing Up Away from Indigenous Identity
Robert’s early life, reconnecting with culture, and the contrast between Calgary and the Cariboo.

16:00 — Working with First Nations Communities
Pride, land stewardship, and the passion that shapes Indigenous emergency work.

19:40 — Why the Land Matters More Than Infrastructure
Animals, berries, hunting, and the long-term impacts of megafires on food systems.

23:10 — Inside the EOC: Cultural Lens in Real Time
How Indigenous representation changes decisions, speeds up response, and avoids harm.

27:00 — Tough Conversations and True Collaboration
Honesty, trust, and building relationships between Nations and local authorities.

30:15 — Cultural Protocols on the Fireline
The Batnuni story, tobacco offerings, and respectful entry into sensitive areas.

33:40 — Evacuations Through an Indigenous Lens
Why returning home is complex: food spoilage, generators, pack rats, and land-based living.

37:20 — The Trout Lake Flood Story
A personal example of overlooked damage and the consequences of not understanding the land.

40:00 — What Needs to Change in Emergency Management
Land-first priorities, community care, and the shift toward Indigenous leadership.

43:00 — Closing Reflections
The power of simple conversations, shared learning, and building a better future for the next generations.

What We Talk About

  • Robert’s personal journey from Ontario to Nazko and the experiences that led him into emergency management
  • What it feels like to be evacuated for 24 weeks and why that experience changed his life
  • How First Nations communities care for their people during evacuations—elders, families, hunters, and land‑based households
  • The cultural and emotional impacts of being uprooted from the land
  • Why land, animals, and food systems must be considered in every emergency decision
  • The difference between colonial emergency priorities and Indigenous priorities
  • How Indigenous representation inside EOCs changes decisions in real time
  • The importance of relationships, trust, and tough conversations between Nations and local authorities
  • Stories of cultural protocol during wildfire response, including the role of elders and ceremony
  • How the Tŝilhqot’in National Government is leading change in emergency preparedness and response
  • The long-term impacts of megafires on ecosystems, wildlife, and community food

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Crowds, Crises, and Communication: Three Volunteer Fire Chiefs and 150 Years of Service | Guests Honorary Chief Reid Whynot, Honorary Chief Wayne Thorburne, and Chief Michael Nauss of Nova Scotia’s Bridgewater Fire Department, join host Tim Conrad03 Mar 202601:05:05

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This episode brings together nearly 150 years of combined volunteer firefighting experience as three Bridgewater Fire Department leaders, Honorary Chief Reid Whynot, Honorary Chief Wayne Thorburne, and Chief Michael Nauss, sit down to reflect on the department’s 150th anniversary and the evolution of service, technology, and community over a century and a half.

Host Tim Conrad guides a conversation filled with history, humour, and hard‑earned wisdom from decades on the front lines.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode

  • How fire calls used to be dispatched
    From rooftop sirens to early pagers and today’s digital systems, the chiefs describe what it was like to get a call before modern communications existed.
  • Stories from the calls that shaped them
    Propane explosions, downtown block fires, fatality incidents, ice jams, major floods, and multi-day industrial fires. Each chief shares the moments that tested them and the ones they’ll never forget.
  • The evolution of public interaction
    Crowds used to gather by the hundreds at fire scenes. The chiefs talk about how community expectations, support, and behaviour have changed from the 1970s to today.
  • Volunteer culture across generations
    What it meant to be a firefighter decades ago, how the role has changed, and why volunteerism remains the backbone of the department’s identity.
  • Leadership under pressure
    Split-second decisions, mutual aid coordination, and the emotional weight of being responsible for your crew and your community.
  • The calls that impacted the whole town
    Including the tragic mother‑and‑three‑sons fire, the Lunenburg church fire, and the Main Street fire that threatened to repeat the devastation of 1899, which led to the town’s incorporation.

00:00 – Land Acknowledgement & 150‑Year Fire Dept History
 00:23 – How Bridgewater’s Fire Service Began (1876)
 01:11 – Meet the Three Chiefs: 150 Years of Combined Service
 02:00 – How Firefighters Got Calls Before Pagers
 05:05 – Sirens, Power Outages & Firehall Renovation Stories
 05:55 – Propane Explosion Call: Wayne’s Most Intense Incident
 08:48 – Reid’s Toughest Calls: Winter Fires, Fatalities & Fish Plant Blaze
 10:12 – Michael’s Hardest Call: Responding to a Friend in Cardiac Arrest
 11:21 – The Main Street Fire: Stopping a Downtown Disaster
 13:16 – 2023 Bridgewater Floods: 104 Calls in 9 Hours
 15:01 – How Public Support for Firefighters Has Changed
 18:15 – Theft, Sabotage & Rare Internal Incidents
 19:10 – When Hundreds Showed Up to Watch Everything (Pre‑Internet Era)
 22:14 – Major Incidents: Ice Jams, Anthrax Scares & Plane Crashes
 22:43 – The Mother & Three Children Fire: A Tragedy That Changed the Town
 24:21 – Lunenburg Church Fire & Community Impact
 26:40 – Pride, Training & “Leave the Truck Better Than You Found It”
 27:22 – Firehall Camaraderie: Songs, Jokes & Brotherhood
 29:04 – Leadership Under Pressure: Trusting Your Crew
 30:17 – The “Holy F” Oil Truck Crash & Multi‑Agency Response
 31:10 – Communicating With the Public During Crisis
 33:38 – Working With Reporters: Honesty, Boundaries & Pressure
 37:16 – Safety Advice for Residents: Detectors, Driving & Common Sense
 40:27 – Mental Health in the Fire Service: What People Don’t See
 48:03 – Humour as Survival: Pranks & Firehall Culture
 57:18 – Staying Grounded During High‑Stress Calls
 59:39 – Brotherhood, Legacy & 150 Years of Service

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When the Attention Leaves: Crisis Communications and the Search for Ryan Shtuka | A conversation with Heather Shtuka and host Tim Conrad17 Feb 202601:01:59

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On February 17, 2018, at a residence on Burfield Drive in Sun Peaks, British Columbia, Canada. 20-year-old Ryan Shtuka, a worker at Sun Peaks, vanished without a trace. 

Ryan's mother, Heather, joins host Tim Conrad, APR, MCPRS, to reflect on what she learned when someone you love goes missing and how to keep the search alive. 

Key Topics Covered

  • Heather’s emotional opening and the moment everything changed
  • The text message that shattered normal life
  • Communicating with children during a crisis
  • Building and managing a volunteer‑driven search operation
  • The role and limits of social media
  • Walking the route Ryan may have taken
  • How misinformation and cruelty impact families
  • Navigating ambiguous loss and long‑term grief
  • The Free Bird Project and supporting other families
  • Advice for crisis communicators and emergency responders

 

Notable Quotes

“You have no idea how this story wounds me now.”
“There were five more minutes of bliss before my life collapsed beneath me.”
“We are now working for Ryan, all of us.”
“Misinformation breaks families. It broke me that day.”

 

Resources & Links

 

About the Guest

Heather Shtuka is the mother of missing 20‑year‑old Ryan Shtuka. Since his disappearance, she has become a powerful advocate for families navigating missing‑person cases, co‑founding The Free Bird Project and speaking widely about communication, resilience, and ambiguous loss.

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Why Recruiting Volunteers Is Getting Harder | With guest Karen Knight, a volunteer management strategist who discusses the intersection of emergencies and volunteers with host Tim Conrad27 Jan 202600:45:00

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In this conversation, Tim Conrad and Karen Knight discuss the challenges and strategies in managing volunteers, especially during emergencies. They explore the importance of understanding volunteer motivations, maintaining their well-being, leveraging their skills, and the benefits of role rotation. The discussion emphasizes building relationships with volunteers, streamlining training processes, and recognizing the impact of lived experiences. They also highlight the mental health benefits of volunteering and the potential for career development through volunteer work. Effective communication and appreciation for volunteers are key themes throughout the conversation.

Takeaways

  • People are still interested in volunteering, but in different ways.
  • Leaders must monitor volunteer well-being to prevent burnout.
  • Understanding volunteer skills can enhance organizational impact.
  • Role rotation keeps volunteers engaged and brings fresh perspectives.
  • Building relationships with volunteers fosters better communication.
  • Streamlining training encourages more volunteers to participate.
  • Lived experiences of volunteers can improve service delivery.
  • Encouraging organized efforts prevents chaos during emergencies.
  • Recognizing volunteers boosts morale and retention.
  • Volunteering has significant mental health benefits. 

Chapters

00:00 Challenges in Volunteer Management
02:49 Volunteer Fatigue and Burnout
05:29 Building Relationships with Volunteers
08:12 Effective Role Management
10:58 The Importance of Role Rotation
13:39 Lived Experience in Volunteerism
16:23 Encouraging Teamwork Over Solo Acts
20:48 Streamlining Volunteer Engagement
23:09 The Mental Health Benefits of Volunteering
25:58 Personal Stories of Volunteering
28:07 Volunteering as a Career Path
30:48 Effective Communication with Volunteers
34:10 Recognizing Volunteer Contributions
39:43 Resources for Crisis and Volunteer Management


Links mentioned by Karen:

How to lead in a crisis by Amy C. Edmondson https://www.ted.com/dubbing/amy_c_edmondson_how_to_lead_in_a_crisis?audio=en&language=en 

From the Top Down: The Executive Role in Successful Volunteer Involvement by Susan J. Ellis. https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=3a7bfe1ca1db5972&rlz=1C1UEAD_enCA1088CA1088&sxsrf=ANbL-n7kzzo02qSejZIDsm3UMaopRHkW-A:1769145490970&q=From+the+Top+Down:+The+Executive+Role+in+Successful+Volunteer+Involvement&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAABXHvQrCMBAA4EEEKU6OToejy0VBhMxa6KrF3YazLU3uSv5sX8cnVbfvWy02BTpUpzzNqt2tscXDsRmVyua83w5GYyMy4DPFTrz-O4CwnT_LqvTiIHYEtYxwkTdrqH-7TmRS7DPBTSxBz3BPxlAIr2ThITZxJPJQcRabyRHHLwhibQ2EAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1ja7E9KCSAxWsGTQIHSFiNKgQ9OUBegQIHBAF&biw=1920&bih=911&dpr=1&aic=0 




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What Makes STANDARDIZATION So Important For Emergency Management? | With guest Todd Livingston of EMAP.org and host Tim Conrad25 Nov 202500:36:33

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Discover the crucial role of standardization in emergency services and how it saves lives. Standardization is the backbone of efficient emergency response, enabling services to respond quickly and effectively in high-pressure situations. In this podcast, we explore the importance of accreditation in emergency services, including its impact on communication, equipment, and procedures. By standardizing protocols and practices, emergency management can reduce errors, improve response times, and ultimately save more lives. 

Guest Todd Livingston of EMAP.org shares with Tim the importance and benefits of accreditation in this episode of the Wildfires, Floods and Chaos Communications Podcast.

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Cybersecurity MISTAKES That Will Cost You BIG | With information technology expert Hunter Geerts and host Tim Conrad18 Mar 202500:38:57

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Knowing what mitigations to have ahead of a cyberattack is one step in many as cybercriminals exploit vulnerabilities on mobile devices, computers and entire operations. Learn about the cyberattacks individuals and organizations face today from Kit Professionals' Hunter Geerts. 

Listen for: 

1:20 Attack methods

12:18 Ransomware and phishing, with a side of mitigation

25:27 VIP impersonation, payroll and vendor fraud, and credential phishing

33:22 Finale - Three quick questions

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Is it trash or truth? Information and the California wildfires | With Ventura County Battalion Chief Pete Jensen and host Tim Conrad16 Jan 202501:18:56

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Conspiracy, AI-created imagery, misinformation and false information now dominate disasters, overpowering truthful and honest information. It is mainstream on social media, podcasts and traditional media, and often repeated by broadcasters, hosts and celebrities. 

Pete Jensen is on the front lines of the southern California wildfires, where, in the past, he has served in many roles, including public information officer. Much of what he shares applies no matter where you are. What we know about wildfires, how they move and how we fight them is international.  

Listen For:
01:29 - Status of the Southern California Wildfires, Water Supply, Staffing and Equipment
33:42 - Forest Management, Resources, and Managing Wildfires
1:11:58 - Finale - Three quick questions

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The BEST Way to Work with Family Liaison Officers During Emergencies | With search and rescue author Moose Mutlow and host Tim Conrad04 Dec 202400:45:14

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National Parks' search and rescue family liaison officer, Moose Mutlow, joins host Tim Conrad, APR, and shares how they connect incident command to families and friends to ensure strong communication throughout searches.

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01:50 - The roles of search and rescue and family liaison officers
10:33 - Setting the stage
28:40 - The idea of truth
40:28 - Finale - Three quick questions

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How TRUST HAS SHIFTED news consumption and how to adapt | Part 3 of 3 with author Doug Levy of The Communications Golden Hour® book and host Tim Conrad26 Nov 202400:28:17

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Author Doug Levy, of The Communications Golden Hour® Book, joins host Tim Conrad, APR, for the final of three episodes to discuss the roles of public information officers and crisis communications in emergencies and crises/issues.

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01:08 - Who to trust?
11:17 - Is that a trusted spokesperson?
15:22 - They turned off the news and turned on an app
22:53 - Finale - Three quick questions

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Communicating in a time of chaos, war and conflict with guest, author Doug Levy | Part 2 of 3 with The Communications Golden Hour author, and host Tim Conrad19 Nov 202400:28:23

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Author Doug Levy, of The Communications Golden Hour® Book, joins host Tim Conrad, APR, for the second of three episodes to discuss the roles of public information officers and crisis communications in emergencies and crises/issues.

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01:05 - Communicating in the chaotic Trump style
10:40 - Media literacy
14:12 - Navigating global conflicts
19:45 - How values can be used to navigate division

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Public Information Officer: Systems, Role, and Learning | Part 1 of 3 with author Doug Levy of The Communications Golden Hour® Book and host Tim Conrad13 Nov 202400:35:21

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Author Doug Levy, of The Communications Golden Hour® Book, joins host Tim Conrad, APR, for the first of three episodes to discuss the roles of public information officers and crisis communications in emergencies and crises/issues.

Listen For:
01:15 - From Practitioner to Author
11:27 - The Role, Skills and Practice of a Public Information Officer
20:30 - Communications is Two-way or It's Not Communications
28:04 - Evolving as a PIO

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Case Study: 2008 Nova Scotia Porters Lake and Lake Echo Wildfire - The first sign of social media and misinformation in an emergency | Host Tim Conrad looks back at his first wildfire as a public information officer29 Oct 202400:24:05

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It was the year 2008. Newspapers, local and provincial/state broadcast TV news, and radio news dominated the media landscape. Misinformation wasn't a word that was used.

These are the stories of the before times. When coordinating more news media was easier than responding, developing, coordinating, producing, and posting media on all channels.

Listen For:
03:55 - Size Up with the Incident Commander
08:04 - A Memorial to News Media
13:57 - Perspectives from Responders and Residents
18:33 - Top Lessons 

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Crisis Communications Management: Training for the Worst, Performing at Your Best. How to Develop From Plan to Program for PIO/Public Information Officers and Public Relations professionals. With guest Shawna Bruce, and host Tim Conrad15 Oct 202400:39:32

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How do you handle the unexpected when the stakes are at their highest?  

Tim sits down with Shawna Bruce to break down the critical differences between a crisis communications plan and a full-fledged program. 

Recorded live at the 2024 Canadian Emergency Preparedness and Climate Adaptation Convention in Ottawa, the conversation dives deep into the importance of preparedness, flexibility, and teamwork in crisis management.  

Whether navigating social media pitfalls or leading a military response, Shawna and Tim explore what it takes to stay ahead of chaos. 

Listen For:
06:07 - The Rarity of Proper Crisis Communication Programs
12:29 - Crisis Communications: Then vs. Now
16:39 - Viral Crisis: A Mayor’s Social Media Misstep
25:03 - Leveraging Proven Practices in Crisis Response 

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Avoiding Panic: Learning from Planning and Preparedness in Earthquake and Tsunami Zones, plus Dark Humour | With guest emergency planner Dorit Mason and host Tim Conrad08 Oct 202400:32:30

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Ever wonder what it takes to be the calm in the storm during an emergency?  

Tim talks with Dorit Mason, an expert in emergency planning and operations. They look at the critical role of planners in emergency operations centres (EOCs), recalling their experiences managing wildfire evacuations in 2017.  

Mason shares insights on the characteristics of a great planner, the importance of personal preparedness, and how effective communication plays a vital role in crisis management.  

They discuss the essential traits required for those working in EOCs and reflect on the camaraderie and humor that keep emergency teams going through the toughest times. 

Listen For:
02:48 Importance of EOCs
08:21 The Synergy Between Planning and Communication
14:31 Volunteering Safely During Earthquakes
21:26 What Earthquake Planning Teaches Us 

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Community-Driven Disaster Response: Lessons from Cariboo | Part 2 of 2 with guest Steph Masun, former recovery and emergency manager, and host, Tim Conrad01 Oct 202400:34:58

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Is building an emergency program a matter of simply responding to crises, or does it require something more?  

In the final episode of the two-part series, host Tim Conrad talks with Steph Masun about the vital role of community, communication, and adaptability in emergency management.  

With years of experience in the Cariboo Regional District's emergency program, Steph shares insights into the creation and continuity of an effective emergency response, emphasizing the importance of building a legacy, nurturing relationships, and continuous improvement.  

From floods to fires, to landslides, learn how communities and emergency professionals can work together to navigate the unpredictable landscape of crisis management. 

Listen For:
04:01 - Creating a Culture of Continuous Improvement
12:50 - The Challenges of Managing Multiple Disasters
25:40 - Recommended Resources for Emergency Management Learning
30:04 - Maintaining Mental Wellbeing During Crisis Response 

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Recovering Together in the Cariboo: Teamwork in Emergency Operations Response and Disaster Recovery | Part 1 of 2 with emergency manager and recovery manager, Steph Masun, and host, Tim Conrad24 Sep 202400:24:01

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How do you rebuild communities after wildfires, floods, and chaos?  

Emergency management expert Stephanie Masun dives deep into the challenges of post-disaster recovery in British Columbia's Cariboo Regional District.  

From the devastation of the 2017 wildfires to multi-year recovery programs, they share powerful lessons on teamwork, community resilience, and emergency management. 

Listen For:
05:20 - Patchwork recovery: Different challenges in each community
14:44 - The challenge of sustaining energy in recovery efforts
20:57 - Staffing challenges in emergency management
22:45 - Recognizing and supporting team members during recovery 

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Connecting in Chaos: PR Strategies from the Frontlines of Wildfires, Floods and Chaos | With PIO Tim Conrad and guest host Jan Enns09 Jul 202400:39:53

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Disaster communications isn’t just about fighting fires – it’s about connecting communities amidst chaos.

In this episode, host Tim Conrad discusses the intense challenges and strategies behind managing public relations during the 2023 British Columbia wildfire season.

Guest Jan Enns delves into her own experiences with evacuation and loss, while highlighting the critical importance of mental health for responders and residents.

Together, they share valuable insights on how to navigate the complexities of crisis communications, emphasizing the power of empathy, community engagement, and resilience.

Listen For:
06:30 - The Butterfly Effect Explained
14:51 - Developing a Crisis Strategy Amid Chaos
18:40 - Navigating the Meta News Ban
25:03 - The Mental Health Impact on Responders

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Documenting Disaster: The Power of Preparation | With business continuity and public relations professional, Michele Toma and host Tim Conrad02 Jul 202400:35:22

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Can strategic planning and empathy transform chaos into order?

In this episode, Tim Conrad introduces Michele Toma, an information officer with expertise in research, analytics, and crisis communication strategies.

They recount their experiences during the devastating 2023 British Columbia wildfire season, highlighting the importance of humanity, empathy, and meticulous documentation in managing crises.

Michele shares her insights on strategic planning, stakeholder relations, and the critical role of business continuity plans.

Their discussion underscores how turning negative feedback into opportunities for improvement can significantly enhance crisis response and communication efforts.

Listen For:
06:47 - Documentation and Accountability
15:04 - Empathy in Crisis Management
20:08 - Business Continuity Planning Essentials
27:54 - Turning Negatives into Opportunities

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Voices in the Inferno: Emergency Communication | Guest Kendra Stoner discusses the spicy moments of the 2023 Bush Creek East wildfire in BC's Shuswap region with host, Tim Conrad25 Jun 202400:38:11

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In the eye of the storm, communication is key.

In this episode, Tim Conrad and Kendra Stoner discuss the high stakes of emergency communication.

They discuss the challenges and rewards of managing emergency operations centres (EOCs) during British Columbia's intense 2023 wildfire season.

Kendra highlights the importance of effective communication, maintaining public trust, and the emotional resilience required for this demanding work.

The episode underscores the critical role of preparation, strong team dynamics, and the personal commitment needed to support communities in crisis.

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03:14 - The Hybrid EOC Challenge
06:02 - Overcoming Burnout in Emergencies
11:37 - Personal and Professional Detachment
22:36 - The Importance of Preparation

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Crisis on the Ground: Public Outreach and Personal Recovery | The mental toll on emergency responders with guest Lloyd Piehl and host Tim Conrad18 Jun 202400:44:19

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From the frontlines of wildfires to the heart of communities.

This episode dives deep into the gritty realities of disaster communications. Tim Conrad interviews Lloyd Piehl, an experienced information officer, about their harrowing yet impactful experiences during the 2023 British Columbia wildfire season.

Lloyd shares compelling stories of working closely with firefighters and community members, illustrating the emotional and mental toll of such crises.

Their discussion covers the importance of public outreach, mental well-being, and the therapeutic role of art in processing trauma. Piehl's unique approach to healing through Lego art therapy provides a fascinating insight into coping mechanisms for those in high-stress environments.

Listen For:
02:34 - Life in the Firetruck
09:37 – The Reality of Disaster Zones
11:23 - The Importance of Public Outreach During Disasters
18:31 - From Anger to Healing: Transforming Community Emotions

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Crisis Calls: Navigating Remote Emergency Operations Centres (EOC) | Former police PIO Leila Daoud joins host Tim Conrad to discuss the 2023 Squamish Lillooet wildfires with host Tim Conrad11 Jun 202400:46:22

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When chaos strikes, communication is key.  In this episode of the Wildfires, Floods, and Chaos Communications podcast, Tim sits down with Leila Daoud, an experienced public relations professional, to discuss the unprecedented 2023 British Columbia wildfire season. 

Leila shares her insights on the challenges and benefits of operating in a fully remote Emergency Operations Center (EOC), highlighting the importance of adaptability and clear communication during crises.   

They delve into the complexities of media relations, the evolving role of social media, and the crucial need for trust and transparency in emergency communications. 

Listen For:
10:10 - The Role of Social Media in Emergencies
16:31 - Choosing the Right Spokesperson
20:38 - The Power of Graphics in Communication
32:27 - Building Trust Before Emergencies 

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Inferno Insights: PR Strategies from the Frontlines | With veteran communicator Mike Lupien who talks about his experience with wildfires in Fort McMurray and BC's Shuswap region, with host Tim Conrad04 Jun 202400:44:34

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When wildfires rage, clear communication is the ultimate firebreak.

In this episode, Tim Conrad sits down with Mike Lupien, a public relations expert, to discuss his experiences during the 2023 British Columbia wildfire season and the infamous 2016 Fort McMurray fire.

Mike shares his insights on crisis communication strategies, the development of essential reentry guides, and the intricate dynamics within an Emergency Operations Center (EOC).

Mike emphasizes the critical role of communication in managing public perception and facilitating recovery efforts.

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02:39 - Fort McMurray Fire Insights
07:01 - Evacuee Challenges
13:18 - Reentry Logistics
21:13 - Recovery Communications Planning

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Calm in the Chaos: Mastering Wildfire Communications | Strategic communicator Brie Thorsteinson-Ogle discusses the chaotic 2023 wildfire season with host Tim Conrad28 May 202400:49:38

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Navigating chaos with calm.

In episode one, Tim Conrad interviews Brie Thorsteinson-Ogle, an expert in strategic behavioural communication, about their experiences managing communications during the brutal 2023 British Columbia wildfires.

Brie discusses the critical importance of building trust, simplifying complex processes, and effectively engaging with communities under duress.

Together, they explore the power of listening and adapting in crisis situations, emphasizing that every gap identified is an opportunity for better solutions and community healing.

Listen For:
04:50 - Simplifying Complex Processes
08:37 - Building Trust and Credibility
18:07 - The Power of Listening
31:19 - Team Support and Psychological Safety

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Trailer - Wildfires, Floods and Chaos Communications Podcast | A Canadian-based, global discussion on chaos and communications23 May 202400:00:35

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How can we better manage crises and disasters? Join us as we talk to people in various roles about issues management, crisis communication and emergency information.

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