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What if the best time to prepare for life after sport is while you're still playing?

In the first episode of Changing Games, former professional rugby player and broadcaster Will Hooley shares how he deliberately prepared for his transition long before hanging up his boots.

Rather than waiting until retirement, Will used his playing career to build relationships, gain experience in broadcasting, and create opportunities beyond the game. Today, he's a broadcaster and Technical Director for Major League Rugby, but his second career didn't begin when rugby ended. It began years earlier.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why athletes should start preparing long before retirement.
• How curiosity creates career opportunities.
• The importance of building relationships while you're still playing.
• Why taking control of your own future matters.
• How Will transitioned from professional rugby to broadcasting.

Whether you're a current athlete, recently retired, or navigating uncertainty in your own career, this episode offers practical lessons on preparing for what's next—before you have to.

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Changing Games: Honest conversations about life during and after sport

What happens when the thing you’ve spent most of your life pursuing comes to an end? After 12 years in professional sport, host Dave Lewis. knows how valuable honest conversations about life during and after a career can be.

Through Changing Games, he brings those conversations to a wider audience, exploring the decisions, experiences, and challenges that shape elite athletes’ lives beyond the game.

In the first episode, Dave speaks with his good friend Will Hooley.

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