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| Preparation for university math with Darja Barr and Dan Wolczuk (Ep 35) | 25 Oct 2024 | 01:04:04 | |
Join Anna Stokke in conversation with two university math instructors, Dr. Darja Barr from the University of Manitoba and Dan Wolczuk from the University of Waterloo. What does it take to succeed in university math? Which topics are most critical for success in university calculus? They cover these questions and more in this episode, which is a must-listen for educators, parents and aspiring university students. They talk about the importance of algebraic fluency and other key concepts essential for success in calculus. They examine the gap between high school preparation and university expectations, touching on grade inflation, the role of diagnostic tests and the value of high school exams with a discussion on the testing effect along the way. They highlight the importance of effective study habits, perseverance, and the ability to self-assess and seek help when needed. NOTE: The resource page contains useful information regarding the transition from high school to university math: http://annastokke.com/ep-35-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:14] Description of university calculus class [00:04:55] Why preparation for calculus is important [00:07:47] Degrees requiring calculus [00:08:36] High school topics needed for success in calculus [00:11:11] Importance of algebraic fluency [00:14:29] Trigonometry and committing facts to memory [00:22:30] Diagnostic tests [00:26:14] Relationship between pre-calculus and university calculus grades [00:32:36] Physical invigilation vs remote diagnostic tests [00:34:32] Challenges of high school to university transition [00:38:07] Grade inflation and the role of standardized testing [00:43:28] Importance of high school exams [00:45:29] The testing effect [00:50:33] Initiatives to support university students [00:57:06] Characteristics of a successful university math student [00:59:43] Advice for first-year university students [01:02:31] Closing remarks RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 15. Modern relevance in the math curriculum with Brian Conrad https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-gek66-148967a Ep 11. California’s math controversy with Jelani Nelson https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-d3bai-144ec76 Ep 7. How to excel in math and other tough subjects with Barbara Oakley https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bqs8p-14068f2 Ep 16. Applying cognitive science to education with Daniel Willingham https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-szugf-149dff1 Ep 2. Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-zgw6i-13b33df EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-35-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-35-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Little Poder, Thannoid Podington Bear – Camp, Kitten Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Transforming education through behaviour science with Kimberly Berens (Ep 34) | 04 Oct 2024 | 01:11:16 | |
Join Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Kimberly Berens in Episode 34 of Chalk & Talk. Kimberly is a behaviour scientist, an author, and the founder of FIT Learning. They discuss the fundamentals of behaviour science, the importance of measurable outcomes, the role of reinforcement, and the application of behaviour science to effective instruction, particularly in math. They also cover concepts like fluency, retention, and endurance in learning. They discuss the effectiveness of Direct Instruction, precision teaching and curriculum-based measurement in bringing about significant improvements in student performance. Kimberly is a passionate advocate for systematic educational change based on scientific approaches. This episode will be of interest to educators, parents, policy makers, and anyone with an interest in improving educational outcomes. NOTE: The resource page contains a list of research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-34-resources TIMESTAMPS: [00:00:00] Introduction [00:02:25] Understanding behaviour science [00:05:23] Behaviour science vs. cognitive science [00:08:28] Defining fluency [00:12:40] Applying behaviour science to math instruction [00:18:01] Do different students learn differently? [00:22:43] How to measure learning [00:28:47] Math anxiety, math trauma and the problem with labels [00:34:56] Combining DI, precision teaching and curriculum-based measurement [00:38:40] The problem with hand raising [00:42:00] Flexible ability grouping [00:47:20] Breaking ineffective traditions [00:51:49] Measuring conceptual understanding [00:57:41] Project Follow Through [01:00:20] The Great Falls Precision Teaching Project [01:03:28] Fit Learning's practices and outcomes [01:06:37] Final thoughts and call to action RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 32. Identifying and educating advanced students with Jonathan Plucker https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-y6cxs-16ad6f1 Ep 30. Math fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e Ep 17. Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-9qahp-14aed8a EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-34-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-34-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Little Poder, Tall Harvey Podington Bear – Camp, Kitten Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c
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| Understanding math reform ideology with Tom Loveless (Ep 25) | 12 Apr 2024 | 01:09:54 | |
In this episode, math professor Anna Stokke is joined by education policy expert, Dr. Tom Loveless. They discuss the National Math Advisory Panel and some of the recommendations in from its final report. They talk about the influential 1989 NCTM standards and their global impact on math education as well as the history of the math wars. Tom discusses some of his concerns about the California Math Framework and whether its recommendations are aligned with those in the National Math Advisory Panel report. They cover many other topics such as San Francisco’s unsuccessful de-tracking initiative and the importance of memorizing math facts. This episode is a must listen for anyone who teaches math, as well as parents and policymakers. PREVIOUS EPISODES MENTIONED Red flags in education research with Ben Solomon (Ep 23) Modern relevance in the math curriculum with Brian Conrad (Ep 15) California’s math controversy with Jelani Nelson, Part I (Ep 11) EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-25-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-25-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Avoiding the Backdrop, Godmother’s Visit, Lakeside Path, Momentary Ease, Sonatina Kemf Komiku – Bleu Podington Bear - Kitten Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Raising student achievement with Dylan Wiliam (Ep 24) | 22 Mar 2024 | 01:01:28 | |
In Episode 24, Anna Stokke interviews Dr. Dylan Wiliam, who is an education researcher renowned for his expertise on formative assessment. They begin by discussing PISA scores and the need to improve math proficiency. They then focus on Dylan's two primary recommendations for raising student achievement – a knowledge-rich curriculum and investing in enhancing teacher effectiveness. They also discuss both formative and summative assessment. Dylan provides some concrete examples for how educators, whether in school or post-secondary settings, can effectively use formative assessment to support student learning. Along the way, they discuss math specialists in primary schools and things teachers can focus on to have the largest impact. This episode provides a wealth of practical wisdom for teachers, policy makers and parents. The resource page for this episode includes books, studies and videos mentioned in the episode. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-24-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-24-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Balti, Noe Noe, Cherry Heath, Lemon and Melon, Haventhorn, Thannoid Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Red flags in education research with Ben Solomon (Ep 23) | 26 Jan 2024 | 01:08:20 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, for a discussion with Dr. Ben Solomon in the final episode of the first season of Chalk & Talk. Ben is a psychology professor and a researcher in math assessment and intervention, known for his expertise in research methodology. One of the goals of this episode is to provide teachers, parents, and the wider public with tools for critically evaluating claims in education. The resource page for this episode describes five red flags to watch for in education research studies. Anna asked Ben to analyze two specific education papers. The first paper has often been used to justify misguided claims about standard algorithms. They discuss flaws with the methodology in that paper. Ben also analyzes a high-quality education paper, highlighting the qualities that elevate it to the status of a rigorous education study, from which meaningful conclusions can be drawn. Along the way, they have a passionate discussion about the importance of teaching standard algorithms. The conversation wraps up with a discussion on the science of learning and the need for education to evolve to use evidence-based practices and data-driven decision-making to achieve best outcomes for students. They hope this episode equips educators and parents with some tools to critically evaluate claims, ensuring that educational practices are grounded in sound research. Thank you for joining Anna Stokke for the first season of Chalk & Talk! Follow Anna on X @rastokke to receive advance notifications for new episodes. researchED Toronto, Canada: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/researched-canada-the-science-of-learning-toronto-may-3-4-2024-tickets-765640259627 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-23-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-23-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Arroz con leche, Cherie’s Polvo, Haventhorn, Mazamorra, Tarte Tatin, Noe Noe, Cornicob Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Mindsets and educational misconceptions with Carl Hendrick (Ep 22) | 12 Jan 2024 | 00:59:01 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, in conversation with author and educator Dr. Carl Hendrick. They begin by discussing research on growth mindset. Then, they discuss whether motivation is a precursor to academic success or if, in fact, success is more likely to lead to motivation. They talk about whether engagement is a valid measure of learning and whether it's possible to teach generic skills like critical thinking. Anna asks Carl how we might define the science of learning and they discuss teaching methods that are in line with the science of learning. They wrap up the conversation with a discussion on the impact of mobile phones on learning, and Carl gives some valuable advice for new teachers. This episode will be of interest to teachers, parents and anyone interested in education. researchED Toronto, Canada: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/researched-canada-the-science-of-learning-toronto-may-3-4-2024-tickets-765640259627 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-22-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-22-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch It Blue Dot Sessions – Building the Sled, Cherie’s Polvo, Cherry Heath, Cigar Singles, Haventhorn, Lemon and Melon Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Ep 21. The right to learn math with Daniel Ansari | 15 Dec 2023 | 00:57:34 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, as she interviews Dr. Daniel Ansari, who is a Canada Research Chair in developmental cognitive neuroscience. They discuss the importance of early numeracy skills and his research on symbolic representations. They talk about similarities and differences between math and reading. They also debunk the misconception of gender differences in math. Responding to a question from a teacher, Daniel discusses the role of manipulatives in teaching math. He also discusses dyscalculia and provides some tips for helping students who struggle with math. They close the episode by discussing some common neuromyths. Among other things, Daniel stresses the fundamental right of every child to learn math. The resource page for this episode includes studies mentioned in the episode and resources for helping children who struggle with math. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-21-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-21-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Proliferate Blue Dot Sessions – Balti, Hedgeliner, Cornicob, Coulis Coulis, Lissa Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Ep 20. Reading and math: parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns | 24 Nov 2023 | 00:58:18 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, for a discussion about reading and math with Dr. Matthew Burns. He is well-known for his research in reading instruction, including research on the effectiveness of the Fountas & Pinnell Benchmark Assessment System. He has also published research on math interventions. He gives a brief history of reading instruction and explains how ideas about how to teach reading became pervasive despite lacking scientific evidence. They then move on to discuss parallels with math instruction, which is the focus of the episode. A noticeable shift is happening in reading, with educators and policymakers now recognizing the importance of phonics and other principles from the science of reading. Math has not received the same level of attention as reading, despite being extremely important. Anna asks Matt to discuss what turned things around for reading and to offer suggestions for how we might create a similar shift for math. The resource page for this episode includes studies mentioned in the episode and resources for helping children develop automaticity with math facts. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-20-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-20-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Lakeside Path Blue Dot Sessions – General Inamorata, The Gran Dias, Tarte Tatin, Thannoid Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Ep 19. The Calculus Project with Adrian Mims | 03 Nov 2023 | 00:57:24 | |
Join Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Adrian Mims. He is the co-founder and CEO of the Calculus Project, which is a non-profit organization that aims to increase the number of Black, Hispanic, Indigenous and low-income students taking calculus, starting with support in middle school. They discuss why he started The Calculus Project, the various components of the program, and its overall impact. They talk about what he calls “the quiet crisis,” in reference to declining math scores, and why it’s important to turn that around. They discuss the importance of offering math acceleration options for middle school students. They talk about the consequence of students finding themselves in a position where they must take remedial math in university. Moreover, Dr. Mims shares some valuable advice for policy makers on how to improve math outcomes for students who have historically been underrepresented in math. This episode will be of interest to teachers, school administrators, parents, policy makers and anyone with an interest in improving math outcomes. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-19-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-19-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – No squirell commotion, Proliferate Blue Dot Sessions – Partly Sage, Cornicob, Gaena, Thannoid Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Ep 18. Education myth-busting with Daisy Christodoulou | 13 Oct 2023 | 00:59:57 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, in conversation with Daisy Christodoulou. Daisy is a teacher, an author and the Director of Education at No More Marking. They begin by discussing the myth that facts prevent understanding and the importance of content knowledge, with a side discussion on why it is important to memorize math facts. They discuss why basic knowledge cannot just be outsourced to computers. They talk about some common myths about exams and whether exams help students learn. Anna asks Daisy for her thoughts on a practice called ungrading. They talk about how to acquire knowledge and myths surrounding so-called 21st century skills. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who is interested in education! EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-18-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-18-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Squirrel Commotion, Prolifereate Blue Dot Sessions: Tarte Tatin, Cases to Rest, No Squirrel Commotion, Partly Sage OY Studio – Light Comedy
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| Ep 17. Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding | 22 Sep 2023 | 00:56:57 | |
In Episode 17, Anna Stokke sits down with Dr. Robin Codding to talk about timed tests and math anxiety. Robin is a psychology professor who researches math interventions, assessment tools and math anxiety. She is one of the founding members of the group The Science of Math. In this episode, Anna asks Robin to shed some light on claims that timed tests cause math anxiety. They discuss the relationship between math achievement and math anxiety, whether it's important to include timed practice in math class, how much practice is needed to become fluent with math skills, at what stage students should be engaging in timed practice, causes of math anxiety, and best ways to mitigate it. They talk about the relationship between conceptual and procedural understanding and whether productive struggle is a reasonable instructional technique. Robin also shares strategies for identifying instructional methods that are philosophy-based, rather than evidence-based. This episode is an essential resource for clearing up misconceptions about timed tests and math anxiety. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-17-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-17-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear - Kitten Blue Dot Sessions – Ivory pillow, Delmendra, Ivory Pillow, Partly Sage, Coulis Coulis Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 | |||
| Ep 16. Applying cognitive science to education with Daniel Willingham | 08 Sep 2023 | 00:57:34 | |
In Episode 16, Anna Stokke talks to cognitive psychologist and bestselling author Dr. Daniel Willingham. Dan shares some of the strategies in his latest book, "Outsmart Your Brain: Why Learning Is Hard and How You Can Make It Easy." They begin by addressing the learning styles myth. They discuss what constitutes retrieval practice in a math context and why retrieval practice is more effective than simply reading. They talk about how to help students recognize and solve variations in math problems, how to get students to use notes effectively, and distractions that hinder learning, such as cell phones and multitasking. He also offers some advice for when students face setbacks. Some of the discussion is geared towards high school or post-secondary students and their instructors, but the conversation will be useful and interesting for anyone who teaches or is interested in human learning. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-16-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-16-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear - Kitten Blue Dot Sessions – Tarte Tatin, Coulis Coulis, Balti, Are We Loose Yet, Gaena Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 | |||
| Educational leadership: Improving math and literacy with Scott Hill (Ep 33) | 13 Sep 2024 | 01:10:02 | |
Host Anna Stokke speaks with Scott Hill, Superintendent of Evergreen School Division. They discuss Evergreen's proactive approach to improving education, particularly focusing on mathematics and literacy. Scott shares how his division tackled low math scores by interviewing students, addressing behaviour issues, employing structured instructional methods, and providing consistent common assessments. They also touch on broader pedagogical narratives, the role of schools in society, and the importance of setting higher expectations for students. Additionally, Scott highlights the critical strides made in early literacy instruction, with Evergreen School Division being recognized with a national award from Dyslexia Canada. A key takeaway from this episode is that strong leadership, data-informed decision making, and a commitment to addressing weaknesses can significantly impact student learning. TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:39] Evergreen School Division's math challenges and student feedback [00:08:43] Grade inflation and reporting to parents [00:11:24] Divisional changes to improve math scores [00:14:42] Higher expectations for students [00:20:05] The role of schools in society [00:26:02] Is inquiry-based pedagogy accomplishing the stated goals? [00:30:45] Instructional caricatures and foundational skills [00:37:09] Setting behavioural standards [00:40:02] Cell phones in schools [00:46:01] Common assessments and provincial exams [00:56:30] Award-winning literacy initiatives [01:01:08] Final thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 1 Math and the myth of ability with John Mighton https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-22c7a-139dc72 Ep 18 Education myth-busting with Daisy Christodoulou https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-z2q9q-14ce080 Ep 20 Reading and math: parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-8aj3f-1508af6 Ep 27 Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jc9mq-161ecac Ep 30 Math fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-33-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-33-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Cornicob Podington Bear – Camp Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Ep 15. Modern relevance in the math curriculum with Brian Conrad | 25 Aug 2023 | 01:01:48 | |
Join Anna Stokke in discussion with Dr. Brian Conrad, who is a math professor and director of undergraduate studies in math at Stanford. They discuss some modern-day applications of math, and he gives some advice for parents who wonder what type of math their kids should learn to be ready for a four-year college degree in STEM or other quantitative fields. Listeners will receive an update on what happened with the California Math Framework since the two episodes featuring Jelani Nelson (Episodes 11 & 12). As well, Brian Conrad shares examples of the many false or misleading citations he found permeating a 1000-page draft copy of the CMF. The discussion of those findings illustrates how citation misrepresentation can lead to misunderstandings about math and data science among the general public. This episode is a must-listen for parents, teachers, policy makers and anyone with an interest in math or education. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-15-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-15-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Tarte Tatin, Callison, Ivory Pillow, Coulis Coulis, Cases to Rest, Delmendra, Delicates Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke Threads: @rastokke37 | |||
| Ep 14. Stress and learning with Dan Rosen | 11 Aug 2023 | 00:54:54 | |
Join Anna Stokke in discussion with Dr. Dan Rosen, who is a teacher and school leader. They explore the impact of stress on learning. They talk about the biology of stress, the difference between anxiety and stress, and common factors that trigger stress for students in the classroom. They also discuss misconceptions about stress. For example, stress may actually enhance learning at certain stages of the learning process. They discuss the claim that timed tests cause math anxiety and talk about practical strategies for minimizing the impact of stress in high-stakes assessments, like exams. This episode will benefit educators of all levels, from K-12 to post-secondary, regardless of the subject they teach, be it math or another field. Parents will also find it useful. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-14-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-14-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Thannoid, Little Poder, Cases to Rest, Coulis Coulis 29811401 – Mysterious Illusion OYStudio – Light Comedy
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| Ep 13. Powerful teaching with Patrice Bain | 28 Jul 2023 | 00:57:49 | |
In Episode 13, Anna Stokke discusses teaching with Patrice Bain, who is a co-author of the book Powerful Teaching: Unleash the Science of Learning. Patrice was one of the first K-12 teachers to partner with cognitive scientists so that research could be conducted in a classroom setting. This episode is all about using research-based power tools to transform teaching. They discuss retrieval practice, spacing, interleaving and metacognition. Along the way, they give practical teaching tips, with a special focus on math. The strategies discussed apply to teaching any field and to both K-12 and post-secondary. In addition to a familiarity with research-based teaching strategies, Patrice brings a wealth of practical teaching experience to the conversation. This episode is a must listen for anyone who is interested in evidence-informed teaching! EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-13-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-13-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Proliferate, Kitten Blue Dot Sessions – Partly Sage, Cases to Rest, No Squirrel Commotion Purple Planet – Bright Ideas
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| Ep 12. California’s math controversy with Jelani Nelson Part II | 09 Jul 2023 | 00:46:54 | |
This is the second episode of a two-part series featuring Dr. Jelani Nelson. He is a professor in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at UC Berkeley. Dr. Nelson, and other STEM leaders, have publicly raised concerns about the proposed California Math Framework (CMF). In this episode, Anna Stokke and Jelani Nelson discuss whether students should have the option of accelerating in math in middle school. First, Jelani describes how he founded the non-profit AddisCoder. Jelani shares his thoughts on acceleration and discusses the impact of acceleration reforms in San Francisco. They also discuss the makeup of the CMF writing team, citation misrepresentation in the CMF, among other topics. For better or worse, California tends to lead the way when it comes to changes in education, so this episode is an important listen! The next episode of Chalk & Talk will be published on July 28. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-12-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-11-12-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Sunset Strolle, Kitten, Lake Victoria, Coulis Coulis Blue Dot Sessions – Tall Harvey
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| Ep 11. California’s math controversy with Jelani Nelson Part I | 08 Jul 2023 | 01:11:11 | |
This is the first episode of a two-part series featuring Dr. Jelani Nelson. He is a professor in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at UC Berkeley. Dr. Nelson, and other STEM leaders, have publicly raised concerns about the proposed California Math Framework (CMF). In this episode, much of the discussion surrounds the CMF’s promotion of data science and changes to math requirements in the University of California system. Anna Stokke and Jelani Nelson discuss what sort of math is needed for a data science degree and the crucial role of Algebra II in preparing students for careers in STEM. Jelani explains the circumstances surrounding the emergence of two high school data science courses that have been marketed as substitutes for Algebra II, despite containing minimal math content. He also addresses the claim that the CMF is equity-based. They wrap up the episode by discussing what happened when he retweeted a post about a prominent math educator charging a school district $5000 an hour in consulting fees. For better or worse, California tends to lead the way when it comes to changes in education, so this episode is an important listen! EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-11-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-11-12-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media - Catch it Purple Planet Music - Bright ideas MusicTown - Inquisitive Orchestra Yevhen Onoychenko - Comedy Detective Blue Dot Sessions - Cases to Rest Podington Bear - Coulis Coulis, Squirrel Commotion OYStudio - Light Comedy
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| Ep 10. Maximizing learning through explicit instruction with Zach Groshell | 29 Jun 2023 | 00:57:48 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, as she chats with Dr. Zach Groshell. He is an instructional coach and a passionate advocate for evidence-informed teaching. They discuss whether it’s possible to expand working memory, the characteristics of a successful explicit instruction lesson, effective approaches for delivering feedback and more. They also tackle a question sent in by a listener who asked whether teaching math through open-ended problems is effective. This episode will resonate with teachers, parents and anyone interested in education. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-10-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-10-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Kitten, Camp Blue Dot Sessions – Tall Harvey, Thannoid, Squirrel Connection OYStudio – Light Comedy Lexin Music – Upbeat Documentary Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke
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| Ep 9. The tweet that roared with Tom Bennett | 15 Jun 2023 | 01:04:22 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, in conversation with Tom Bennett. He is a teacher, author and founder of the grass roots, non-profit organization ResearchED. Tom has a captivating sense of humour, making this a great listen. They discuss many things in this episode, such as education research, group work, cell phones in schools and evidence-informed teaching. But the conversation begins with the story of ResearchED, which has started an evidence revolution in education. It all started with one tweet – as Tom Bennett calls it “The Tweet that Roared.” Anyone interested in education will enjoy this episode! EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-9-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-9-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Sunset Stroll, Camp, Proliferate Blue Dot Sessions – Cases to Rest, Partly Sage OYStudio – Light Comedy Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke | |||
| Ep 8. Lessons from around the world with Lucy Crehan | 01 Jun 2023 | 00:52:30 | |
In this episode math professor, Anna Stokke, interviews Lucy Crehan, who is a teacher and an author. In her book, Cleverlands, she presents her first-hand observations of the education systems in different countries. They discuss teacher qualifications in Finland and Singapore, teacher professional development in Japan and math lessons in Shanghai. They cover some commonalities in high-performing countries, such as the use of high-quality textbooks, and the role of practice and memorization in East Asian countries. The conversation then shifts to cultural differences, some of which may impact educational outcomes. If you are curious about education systems in different parts of the world, you won’t want to miss this episode! EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-8-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-8-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Lakeside Path Blue Dot Sessions – Tall Harvey, Hundred Mile Lexin Music - Upbeat Documentary OYStudio – Light Comedy Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke | |||
| Ep 7. How to excel in math and other tough subjects with Barbara Oakley | 18 May 2023 | 00:58:57 | |
Join Anna Stokke as she interviews Dr. Barbara Oakley, an engineering professor whose work focusses on the relationship between neuroscience and social behaviour. She is an expert on learning tough subjects and has written several books for teachers and students that detail science-based techniques for learning. They cover learning techniques such as chunking and deliberate practice. They explore why being a slower learner may not necessarily be a drawback and consider whether it’s possible to catch up on math skills later in life. Dr. Oakley shares some effective study techniques and offers strategies for overcoming procrastination. Post-secondary educators and teachers will not want to miss this episode. The learning tips discussed will also be invaluable for students, parents and anyone who wants to become better at learning math. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-7-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-7-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear – Lakeside Path, Kitten, Camp Blue Dot Sessions – Cases to Rest, Thannoid OYStudio – Light Comedy SoulProdMusic – Upbeat and Happy Music
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| Ep 6. Math teaching tips with Barry Garelick and JR Wilson | 04 May 2023 | 00:55:57 | |
In this episode, Anna Stokke is joined by two experienced teachers, Barry Garelick and JR Wilson. They have recently published a book called Traditional Math: an effective strategy that teachers feel guilty using. Throughout the interview, Barry and JR share strategies and practical advice that they have used in their own classrooms with great success. They cover topics that will resonate with teachers, including how to get students excited about math, how to effectively use the “I do, we do, you do” method of teaching and the role of understanding in math. They also discuss critical math topics that teachers should focus on, tips for teaching word problems, how to keep advanced students challenged, and how to help struggling students, among other things. This episode will be interesting to teachers, parents and anyone with an interest in math education. MUSIC Intro and Outro music by Coma Media - Catch it Transition music by Podington Bear – Camp EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-6-transcript BOOKS MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE https://www.annastokke.com/ep-6-resources
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| Identifying and educating advanced students with Jonathan Plucker (Ep 32) | 23 Aug 2024 | 01:03:56 | |
Math professor Anna Stokke speaks with Dr. Jonathan Plucker, a professor and director of the Education Policy Program at Johns Hopkins University, about advanced education, acceleration and academic streaming. Jonathan discusses the flaws in traditional methods of identifying advanced students and advocates for universal screening to ensure equitable access to advanced programs. They cover various interventions, including acceleration, and discuss the drawbacks of de-streaming or anti-acceleration policies. They also discuss equity concerns. They talk about flexible ability grouping, the need to challenge stereotypes about advanced students, and more. Jonathan emphasizes that education should meet the needs of every student, including students who excel academically, and he provides concrete advice for accomplishing that. A key takeaway from this episode is that offering advanced programs benefits all students and, ideally, every school should include advanced programming. This episode is a must-listen for educators of any subject, parents and policymakers. NOTE: The resource page contains a list of research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-32-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:42] Terminology: gifted or advanced? [00:07:58] Are labels a problem? [00:10:54] Identifying advanced students [00:21:13] Equity in advanced programs [00:25:28] Meeting the needs of advanced students [00:27:46] Effective interventions for advanced students [00:31:29] Enrichment vs. acceleration [00:34:59] Supporting learners beyond minimum competency [00:38:42] The case of San Francisco Unified School District [00:43:14] Problems with de-streaming and anti-acceleration programs [00:48:16] Flexible ability grouping: A solution? [00:53:18] Who benefits from flexible ability grouping? [00:54:53] The impact of de-streaming on teachers and students [00:58:42] What needs to change to support advanced students
RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 11. California’s math controversy with Jelani Nelson, Part I https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-d3bai-144ec76 Ep 12. California’s math controversy with Jelani Nelson, Part II https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-93gm5-144fc4c Ep 15. Modern relevance in the math curriculum with Brian Conrad https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-gek66-148967a Ep 19. The Calculus Project with Adrian Mims https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-fkbjk-14eb0a7 Ep 25. Understanding math reform ideology with Tom Loveless https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-7ih4c-15dbf9a EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-32-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-32-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – No Squirrel Connection, Cornicob, Balti Podington Bear – Camp Website: www.annastokke.com | |||
| Ep 5. Critical issues in education with Matt Henderson | 20 Apr 2023 | 00:57:54 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, in conversation with Matt Henderson, an assistant superintendent of a school division in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. They discuss the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on education, challenges with online teaching, and the pervasive use of cell phones and social media. They also discuss the implications of AI, particularly ChatGPT, on education. The conversation then turns to math teaching, as Matt shares his insights on the challenges facing math teachers and approaches that have helped teachers in his school division. He also provides practical advice for new teachers. This episode a must-listen for educators, parents, and anyone interested in education. MUSIC Intro and Outro music by Coma Media - Catch it Transition music by Podington Bear – Camp EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-5-transcript Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke | |||
| Ep 4. Cognitive load theory with Greg Ashman | 06 Apr 2023 | 01:01:02 | |
In this episode, math professor Anna Stokke sits down with Dr. Greg Ashman, an Australian teacher, writer and researcher with a wealth of knowledge on cognitive load theory. Dr. Ashman shares his journey into education writing and research, including some of the challenges he has faced along the way. He shares some pitfalls of education research studies and discusses what happened when he tried to track down the references for a claim that timed tests cause math anxiety. The conversation also includes a discussion on cognitive load theory and its implications for effective teaching. Dr. Ashman explains what good explicit instruction looks like in a math classroom and provides practical advice for new teachers. This episode is a must-listen for teachers, parents and anyone with an interest in education. EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-4-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro music by Coma Media - Catch it Transition music by Podington Bear – Camp EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-4-transcript Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke | |||
| Ep 3. The Science of Math with Amanda VanDerHeyden | 25 Mar 2023 | 00:59:21 | |
Join math professor Anna Stokke as she interviews Dr. Amanda VanDerHeyden, a leading expert in using evidence-based methods to improve math instruction in schools. Dr. VanDerHeyden is a co-founder of The Science of Math, a group of experts advocating for evidence-based math instruction. Dr. VanDerHeyden shares the origins and goals of the Science of Math movement, as well as addressing common misconceptions. Do timed tests cause math anxiety? Do standard algorithms hinder understanding? Is explicit instruction only helpful for struggling learners? The discussion also covers what happens when kids fall behind in math, among other topics. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in education, especially teachers and parents. EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-3-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro music by Coma Media - Catch it Transition music by Podington Bear – Camp EPISODE TRANSCRIPT http://www.annastokke.com/ep-3-transcript Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke
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| Ep 2. Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner | 11 Mar 2023 | 00:52:20 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, in conversation with Dr. Paul Kirschner, a renowned educational psychology researcher and speaker. This episode will be of interest to anyone involved in teaching, whether they work with children or adults, or simply have an interest in education. Dr. Kirschner explains how we process information in our brains, and how this can be applied to improve teaching practices. He shares insights on effective teaching techniques such as spaced practice, scaffolding, the worked example effect, among others. Additionally, he dispels some common education myths and critiques teaching methods lacking research-based evidence. EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-2-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro music by Coma Media - Catch it Transition music by Podington Bear – Camp EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-2-transcript Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke | |||
| Ep 1. Math and the Myth of Ability with John Mighton | 24 Feb 2023 | 00:49:45 | |
In this episode, math professor Anna Stokke sits down with mathematician and best-selling author John Mighton to discuss his passion for teaching math and his founding of JUMP Math, a charity dedicated to helping children achieve their full potential in mathematics. Mighton shares his insights on the persistent myth that some people are not wired to be good at math and how this false belief has held back many students from realizing their full potential. They discuss the science of learning and the characteristics of successful math programs, highlighting the importance of providing ample opportunities for students to practice and master foundational skills. Mighton shares practical advice for teachers on how they can assess whether math instruction programs align with the science of learning. He shares his vision for a world where all children have access to high-quality math education. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in math education. RESOURCES Principles of Instruction: Research-based strategies all teachers should know by Barak Rosenshine All Things Being Equal: Why Math is the Key to a Better World by John Mighton For the Love of Math by John Mighton MUSIC Intro and Outro music by Coma Media - Catch it Transition music by Podington Bear - Camp Website: www.annastokke.com Twitter: @rastokke EPISODE TRANSCRIPT | |||
| Exploring evidence for equitable education with Nidhi Sachdeva and Jim Hewitt (Ep 31) | 01 Aug 2024 | 01:03:08 | |
Join math professor Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Nidhi Sachdeva and Dr. Jim Hewitt, educators and researchers at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) at the University of Toronto. They discuss their co-designed course on the science of learning and its impact on educational practice. The episode expands on their recent presentation on equitable instruction at ResearchEd Canada, covering instructional techniques effective in closing the achievement gap. Key topics include explicit instruction, the benefits of retrieval practice, formative assessments, and the importance of addressing educational myths. They also explore the implications of Project Follow Through and evaluate other educational approaches like collaborative learning, culturally responsive teaching, and social-emotional learning. The conversation emphasizes the need for evidence-based strategies to promote equity in education. This episode is essential listening for educators, parents, and anyone committed to narrowing education achievement gaps. NOTE: The resource page contains a list of research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-31-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:33] Key topics in the Science of Learning course [00:09:38] Integrating microlessons into instruction [00:12:50] Debunking educational myths [00:17:17] Equitable instruction [00:21:21] Inclusive instruction [00:22:18] Reducing inequities 1: Explicit instruction [00:30:27] Project Follow Through [00:35:10] Reducing inequities 2: Retrieval practice [00:41:34] Reducing inequities 3: Formative assessment & feedback [00:46:55] Research on small-group learning [00:51:09] Culturally responsive teaching [00:54:14] Social-emotional learning [00:55:52] Strengths and limitations of differentiated instruction [00:58:41] Advocating for science of learning courses [01:00:12] Closing thoughts on equitable instruction RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 2. Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-zgw6i-13b33df Ep 10. Maximizing learning through explicit instruction with Zach Groshell https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-px8h6-1443528 Ep 22. Mindsets and misconceptions with Carl Hendrick https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-78zv9-15493b1 Ep 24. Raising student achievement with Dylan Wiliam https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-kduiw-15bba36 Ep 27. Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jc9mq-161ecac EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-31-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-31-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Little Poder, Tall Harvey Podington Bear – Camp, Kitten Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Math fluency matters with Brian Poncy (Ep 30) | 12 Jul 2024 | 00:57:50 | |
In the second episode of a two-part series, math professor Anna Stokke sits down with Dr. Brian Poncy, a school psychology professor at Oklahoma State University, who specializes in math interventions. His extensive research on basic fact fluency led to the development of a free math program called M.I.N.D, aimed at improving numeracy and computational skills. They begin by discussing five compelling reasons that fluency is crucial. Brian shares his research on dosage, which addresses the frequency and duration of practice for math skills. Anna asks Brian to define conceptual understanding, and they explore its relationship with procedural skill. They also discuss explicit timing and address concerns about anxiety. Brian emphasizes the importance of data-driven decision-making and more. A key takeaway from these two episodes is that achieving fluency with basic facts requires daily practice—every school day, not just once a week or every other day. The specifics are covered in this episode. As Brian emphasizes, basic fact fluency results in significant effects with minimal investment in instructional time. These two episodes shine a light on the challenges many children face with math and highlight research-backed methods to improve math education. NOTE: The resource page contains an extensive list of research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-30-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction Five reasons math fluency is important [00:02:42] Reason 1: More opportunities to respond [00:05:50] Reason 2: Increased rates of reinforcement [00:10:07] Reasons 3 & 4: Knowledge maintenance & reducing cognitive load [00:12:35] Reason 5: Skill generalization [00:20:16] Defining conceptual understanding [00:25:31] Relationship between conceptual understanding & fluency building [00:28:35] Research on dosage: how much to practice [00:36:05] To mix or not to mix skills [00:38:58] Explicit timing with goal setting and rewards [00:42:29] Explicit timing and math anxiety [00:47:54] Making data-based decisions [00:52:30] Advice for schools RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 2. Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-zgw6i-13b33df Ep 3. The Science of Math with Amanda VanDerHeyden https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bksbz-13c732d Ep 4. Cognitive load theory with Greg Ashman https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-thbad-13cea56 Ep 17. Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-9qahp-14aed8a Ep 27. Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jc9mq-161ecac EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-30-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-30-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Thannoid, Tarte Tatin, Mazamorra, Cornicob Podington Bear – Camp Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Math fact crisis: strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy (Ep 29) | 05 Jul 2024 | 01:03:21 | |
In this first episode of a two-part series, math professor Anna Stokke sits down with Dr. Brian Poncy, a school psychology professor at Oklahoma State University, who specializes in math interventions. His extensive research on basic fact fluency led to the development of a free math program called M.I.N.D, aimed at improving numeracy and computational skills. In the episode, Brian stresses that we have a basic fact crisis where many students struggle with basic fact fluency, affecting their overall math proficiency. They discuss his research and effective strategies for teaching basic facts and computational skills. The conversation begins with a description of the instructional hierarchy, a tool for identifying a student's learning stage and selecting suitable tasks, with an accompanying infographic available on the episode resource page. Anna asks Brian to define some key terms such as fluency, automaticity and mastery. They discuss the impact of his free program, M.I.N.D, particularly its implementation in a low-performing school. They also cover research on decomposition strategies and emphasize the importance of data collection to inform instruction. Throughout the episode, Brian shares strategies used in the M.I.N.D program, revealing his deep passion for helping children learn math. These two episodes shine a light on the challenges many children face with math and highlight research-backed methods to improve math education. NOTE: The resource page contains an extensive list of research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-29-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:26] Definition of fluency [00:04:40] The instructional hierarchy [00:14:27] Interventions for building accuracy and fluency [00:22:38] Definition of automaticity [00:30:24] Definition of mastery [00:34:53] Facts on Fire for Tier 1 instruction [00:44:54] Research on decomposition strategies for mental math [00:50:07] Implementing Facts on Fire: A longitudinal study [01:00:53] The need to make data-informed decisions [01:01:45] Closing thoughts and topics in next episode RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 2. Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-zgw6i-13b33df Ep 3. The Science of Math with Amanda VanDerHeyden https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bksbz-13c732d Ep 4. Cognitive load theory with Greg Ashman https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-thbad-13cea56 Ep 17. Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-9qahp-14aed8a Ep 20. Reading and math: parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-8aj3f-1508af6 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-29-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-29-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Town Market, Spindash, Cornicob Podington Bear – Camp Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Autism and evidence-based math instruction with Katharine Beals (Ep 28) | 14 Jun 2024 | 01:02:05 | |
In episode 28, math professor Anna Stokke interviews Dr. Katharine Beals, who is a linguist and expert in using evidence-based instruction to teach students with autism. Katharine is the author of several books on autism, including one focused on autism-friendly curriculum and instruction. They begin the episode with an overview of autism, where Katharine describes some of its defining characteristics and the skills typically affected. She discusses how autism impacts math learning and some common instructional techniques that can negatively impact autistic students. They then discuss what research suggests are the most effective instructional methods for students with autism. Along the way, they discuss facilitated communication, and Katharine recommends math programs that are particularly well-suited for autistic individuals. A key takeaway from this conversation is that many instructional techniques that are most effective for students with autism benefit the majority of students, but poor instructional methods more adversely affect those with autism. This fascinating and highly informative conversation is a must-listen for educators and anyone passionate about education. PREVIOUS EPISODES MENTIONED Ep 21. The right to learn math with Daniel Ansari https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-4nv9n-1527568 Ep 25. Understanding math reform ideology with Tom Loveless https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-7ih4c-15dbf9a Ep 27. Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jc9mq-161ecac EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-28-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-28-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Inamorata, Town Market, The Gran Dias Podington Bear – Lakeside Path, Camp Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow (Ep 27) | 24 May 2024 | 01:10:51 | |
In Episode 27, math professor Anna Stokke talks with Dr. Pamela Snow, a cognitive psychology professor at La Trobe University’s School of Education in Australia. She is renowned for her expertise in language and literacy instruction and co-founded the Science of Language and Reading (SOLAR) Lab at La Trobe, which assists schools in adopting scientific approaches to enhance reading instruction. Pamela emphasizes viewing school as a health intervention and effective language and reading instruction as a social justice issue. The conversation spans a range of topics, including evidence-based methods for teaching reading, the golden mean fallacy in education, and foundational skills in both reading and math. They also discuss ways to improve teacher preparation and whether programs like the one at La Trobe might start emerging in other universities. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in education, whether from a reading perspective or a math perspective. PREVIOUS EPISODES MENTIONED Ep 17. Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-9qahp-14aed8a Ep 20. Reading and math: parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-8aj3f-1508af6 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-27-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-27-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Balti, Coulis Coulis, Lissa, Cornicob Podington Bear – Proliferate Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| Cognitive load theory in math class with David Morkunas (Ep 26) | 03 May 2024 | 00:56:25 | |
In Episode 26, math professor Anna Stokke is joined by David Morkunas, who is an Australian teacher and numeracy learning specialist. Their conversation focusses on practical applications of cognitive load theory and explicit instruction for teaching math. They discuss David’s role in overseeing a primary math program. He shares strategies for incorporating cognitive science principles into daily math reviews. They discuss the significance of standard algorithms and explore David’s strategies for teaching them. They talk about the role of manipulatives, math anxiety and fostering motivation in math class. Anna also asked David to recommend resources for further exploration of explicit instruction and cognitive load theory. This episode is packed with actionable advice for teaching math. David’s infectious passion for math and his skill in applying effective teaching methods make this an invaluable episode for educators and math education enthusiasts. PREVIOUS EPISODES MENTIONED Raising student achievement with Dylan Wiliam: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-kduiw-15bba36 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-26-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-26-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Town Market, Balti Podington Bear – Camp, Proliferate Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| How to Build Automaticity with Math Facts: A Practical Guide (Ep 36) | 08 Nov 2024 | 00:27:15 | |
This solo episode, hosted by Anna Stokke, provides educators, parents, and students with practical, research-backed methods to develop math fact automaticity. These techniques have been shown to work with a wide range of students across age, skills and settings. Key techniques discussed include flashcards, cover-copy-compare, taped problems, incremental rehearsal and explicit timing, with detailed instructions for how best to implement each technique. Call to action: If you know someone who might benefit from this episode, please share it with them! NOTE: The resource page contains resources to help listeners implement the techniques discussed as well as supporting research: http://annastokke.com/ep-36-resources TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 01:19 The Importance of math fact automaticity 03:00 Understanding automaticity 06:17 Acquisition stage 06:50 Fluency stage 08:35 What basic facts? 09:06 When should students have math facts mastered? 09:49 Pairing the stimulus with the response 11:13 Using flashcards effectively 13:25 Incremental Rehearsal 15:13 Cover, Copy, Compare Method 17:49 Taped Problems: Beat the Computer 18:57 Should you use games? 20:52 Explicit timing for fluency building 21:14 Why timed practice is essential 22:31 When to introduce timed practice 24:28 Consistency and Daily Practice 25:01 Conclusion and Call to Action RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 30. Math fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-pj6z6-166741e Ep 29. Math fact crisis with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-u9y84-165d773 Ep 20. Reading and math: parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-8aj3f-1508af6 Ep 17. Do timed tests cause math anxiety? with Robin Codding https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-9qahp-14aed8a Ep 3. The Science of Math with Amanda VanDerHeyden https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-bksbz-13c732d EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-36-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-36-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Momentary Ease, Betty Dear Podington Bear – Camp Scott Holmes – Happy Logo 3 Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c | |||
| From decline to top rankings: How England transformed education with Nick Gibb (Ep 49) | 30 May 2025 | 01:19:18 | |
In this episode, Anna Stokke interviews The Right Honourable Sir Nick Gibb, former Minister of State for Schools in England. Nick discusses the bold, evidence-based reforms he led over a decade to reverse declining academic performance in English schools. From phonics-based reading instruction to math mastery, he explains how high expectations, rigorous curricula, and a focus on teacher training transformed outcomes—helping England rise to 4th in the world in reading on PIRLS and one of the highest-performing countries on TIMSS. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in meaningful education reform. TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:04:05] The state of English education in 2005 [00:05:50] Problems with progressive education [00:08:12] Math teaching in England before the reforms [00:13:13] Education: A non-partisan issue [00:14:48] Learning about math teaching from Shanghai and Singapore [00:18:01] Competency-based curriculum debate [00:22:00] Reading reforms [00:26:09] Resistance to the phonics movement [00:32:10] Math reforms implemented for primary education [00:38:08] Attention to detail in curriculum development [00:41:11] Debates on educational standards [00:42:41] Reforming initial teacher training [00:48:24] The Education Endowment Foundation [00:50:21] Liberating the teaching profession [00:55:07] How the reforms improved student outcomes [00:57:42] Educational outcomes in Scotland and Wales [01:00:38] The future of education reforms [01:06:24] Advice for policymakers and advocates [01:16:00] Reflections and closing remarks RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Education myth-busting with Daisy Christodoulou https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-z2q9q-14ce080 The tweet that roared with Tom Bennett https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bpgqn-14326ef Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jc9mq-161ecac Exploring evidence for equitable education with Nidhi Sachdeva and Jim Hewitt https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-fjdnt-1685615 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/transcripts/ep-49-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/resources/ep-49-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Oy Studio: Light comedy Blue Dot Sessions: Avoiding the Backroom, Neatly folded, Momentary Ease, Balti Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| How we learn: Naive, purposeful, and deliberate practice with Stephen Chew (Ep 48) | 16 May 2025 | 00:57:13 | |
Join math professor Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Stephen Chew, a cognitive psychologist at Samford University. They explore the different types of practice—naive, purposeful, and deliberate—and why understanding these distinctions can transform teaching and improve learning. The discussion also covers how to use feedback effectively, structure worked examples in math class, address common student misconceptions, and build trust in the classroom. They even tackle the term “active learning"—whether it actually means anything useful, and why the research on it may not be as clear as it seems. Packed with practical advice and research-based strategies, this episode is a must-listen for educators at all levels. NOTE: The resource page contains research articles mentioned in the episode: https://www.annastokke.com/resources/episode-48-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:02:53] Understanding naive, purposeful, and deliberate practice [00:13:46] The importance of feedback in learning [00:20:03] Effective use of worked examples [00:25:13] Addressing student misconceptions [00:31:18] Debunking learning myths: Struggle and engagement [00:34:58] Is active learning just a buzzword? [00:37:40] The problem with research on active learning [00:42:35] Nine cognitive challenges for effective teaching [00:44:51] Building trust in the classroom [00:47:55] Desirable difficulties vs. unnecessary challenges [00:51:23] Formative assessment techniques for large classes [00:53:47] The complexity and importance of teaching [00:54:32] Bridging the gap between research and practice RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 2. Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-zgw6i-13b33df Ep 4. Cognitive load theory with Greg Ashman https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-thbad-13cea56 Ep 7. How to excel in math and other tough subject with Barbara Oakley https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bqs8p-14068f2 Ep 16. Applying cognitive science to education with Daniel Willingham https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-szugf-149dff1 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-48-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/resources/episode-48-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Cornicob, Momentary Ease, Town Market, Noe Noe Podington Bear – Proliferate Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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| Project Follow Through: Direct Instruction's overlooked success with Marcy Stein (Ep 39) | 10 Jan 2025 | 01:15:54 | |
Join Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Marcy Stein, professor emeritus from the University of Washington, Tacoma, about her firsthand experience with Direct Instruction (DI) and Project Follow Through—the world’s largest educational experiment. Despite showing DI’s effectiveness with at-risk students, the results were largely ignored. Marcy shares insights into the origins of DI, its instructional design, and emphasizes that it’s effective for all students, not just those struggling academically. She also addresses common misconceptions, walks through a typical DI math lesson, and gives advice on how to bridge skill gaps in the classroom. This episode unpacks the story of Project Follow Through and the ongoing fight for evidence-based education. NOTE: The resource page contains resources and research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-39-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:52] Marcy Stein’s background [00:07:11] Origins of Direct Instruction [00:11:26] Overview of Project Follow Through [00:14:40] Instructional models and results of Project Follow Through [00:23:30] What makes DI effective? [00:25:12] Why were the results of PFT ignored? [00:29:28] Difference between DI and di [00:31:52] Instructional design in DI [00:37:50] Pitfalls of multiple strategies [00:42:55] Understanding instructional delivery in DI [00:45:51] Managing varying abilities in the classroom [00:48:28] Addressing prerequisite skills in older students [00:52:40] Spiral vs. strand curriculum [00:55:12] A typical DI math lesson structure [00:59:34] List of DI math programs [01:01:17] Common misconceptions about DI [01:05:03] Challenges and resistance to DI [01:09:02] Role of leaders and faculty in DI implementation [01:13:51] Final thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 34 Transforming education through behaviour science with Kimberly Berens https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-9tfz7-16f2e02 Ep 31 Exploring evidence for equitable education with Nidhi Sachdeva and Jim Hewitt https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-fjdnt-1685615 Ep 20 Reading and math: Parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-8aj3f-1508af6 Ep 10 Maximizing learning through explicit instruction with Zach Groshell https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-px8h6-1443528 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-39-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-39-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions –Tall Harvey, Little Poder, Momentary Ease, Betty Dear Podington Bear – Camp, Kitten Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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| Boosting attention and learning with Blake Harvard (Ep 38) | 20 Dec 2024 | 00:55:16 | |
Join math professor, Anna Stokke, in conversation with Blake Harvard, a secondary teacher in Alabama. They discuss insights from his new book, Do I Have Your Attention?, including how he incorporates cognitive psychology into his teaching. Their conversation explores topics like cognitive architecture, memory constraints, attention contagion and common learning pitfalls. Blake provides practical strategies for implementing retrieval practice and spaced practice, highlighting their benefits in reducing test anxiety and enhancing long term learning outcomes. The episode wraps up with a thought-provoking discussion on creativity, where Blake challenges the notion that traditional schooling stifles creativity—arguing instead that a strong knowledge foundation fosters it. Whether you’re an educator or simply curious about the science of learning, this episode offers valuable insights for teaching and learning in any subject. NOTE: The resource page contains resources and research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-38-resources TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 02:44 Blake's Teaching Journey 03:13 Discovering cognitive psychology 05:18 Understanding memory constraints 13:55 Attention contagion 21:54 Overcoming overconfidence in learning 25:32 The role of forgetting in learning 27:53 Maximizing learning with effective strategies 28:36 The power of retrieval and spaced practice 29:45 Retrieval practice in math 33:10 Diminishing cues retrieval practice 36:21 The Brain Book Buddy strategy 41:13 The importance of honest self-assessment 42:56 Reducing test anxiety with retrieval practice 45:48 The benefits of spaced practice 47:06 Last lesson, last week, last month strategy 49:38 Debunking myths about creativity in education 52:48 Final thoughts and advice for teachers RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep. 26 Cognitive load theory in math class with David Morkunas https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-znh5k-15f7937 Ep. 13 Powerful teaching with Patrice Bain https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-d77g4-14602e3 Ep 4 Cognitive load theory with Greg Ashman https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-thbad-13cea56 Ep. 2 Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-zgw6i-13b33df EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-38-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-38-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – No Squirrel Connection, Thannoid, Momentary Ease, Betty Dear Podington Bear – Camp Scott Holmes – Happy Logo Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Homework that works with Jo Castelino (Ep 37) | 29 Nov 2024 | 01:06:46 | |
Join Anna Stokke as she chats with Dr. Jo Castelino, a secondary school teacher, to discuss her new book on homework. They discuss the vital role of homework in education, exploring why it's important, how much should be assigned and what types of homework are most effective. Jo shares insights from research and her experiences, addressing common criticisms of homework, strategies for creating a school culture that supports homework, methods for leveraging feedback, and handling issues like cheating. They also discuss the cyclical relationship between homework and self-regulatory behaviours that contribute to higher academic achievement. Jo gives valuable practical advice on how to design effective homework and how to get both students and parents on board. This episode will be of interest to educators, parents and school administrators. NOTE: The resource page contains resources and research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-37-resources 00:00 Introduction 02:18 Background 03:30 Writing about homework 06:30 Research on homework 12:57 How much homework: Cooper 10-minute rule 15:26 Role of homework in how students learn 22:37 Designing Effective Homework 25:52 Discussing flipped classrooms 28:55 How often to give homework 36:10 Scaffolding homework for struggling students 36:56 Providing feedback 40:06 Homework challenge levels 43:23 Homework and disadvantaged students 47:17 Creating a school culture for homework 48:06 Rewards and consequences 54:39 Getting parents on board 57:55 Addressing cheating 01:03:25 Convincing administrators about homework 01:05:05 Conclusion RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep. 31 Exploring evidence for equitable education with Nidhi Sachdeva and Jim Hewitt https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-fjdnt-1685615 Ep. 14 Stress and learning with Dan Rosen https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-94vv4-147a254 Ep. 13 Powerful teaching with Patrice Bain https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-d77g4-14602e3 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-37-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-37-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Little Poder, Momentary Ease, Betty Dear Podington Bear – Camp Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Mailbag: Math facts vs calculators, a logic problem, the Southern surge (Ep 47) | 07 May 2025 | 00:14:49 | |
In this special mailbag episode, Anna Stokke tackles two listener questions and a comment. She breaks down a logic puzzle that stumped some fans, explains why relying on calculators isn’t a substitute for math fact fluency, and highlights comments from a listener about encouraging literacy trends in several Southern U.S. states. TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction and Mailbag Announcement [00:01:08] Question 1: Logic Problem from Episode 40 [00:04:47] Question 2: Can calculators replace math fact fluency? [00:12:00] Comment on states that buck the declining scores trend The Southern Surge: Understanding the Bright Spots in the Literacy Landscape https://www.karenvaites.org/p/the-southern-surge-understanding RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 40 From math to science: How weak math skills hurt students https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-mqims-17b512f Ep 36 How to build automaticity with math facts: A practical guide https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-3ny3k-17323a9 Ep 29 Math fact crisis: strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-u9y84-165d773 Ep 30 Math Fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e Ep 45 A decade of decline: Examining falling test scores with Mike Petrilli https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-qeajx-187272a EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-47-transcript MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Momentary Ease, Neatly Folded Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Reclaiming learning time to boost literacy and numeracy with Ross Fox (Ep 46) | 25 Apr 2025 | 01:13:17 | |
In Episode 46, Anna Stokke chats with Australian education leader Ross Fox. As the former Director of Catholic Education for the Archdiocese of Canberra and Goulburn, Ross led a major shift in teaching practices that led to significant gains in both literacy and numeracy. The episode begins with an overview of the Australian education system. They then explore Ross’s implementation of the Catalyst program—an initiative grounded in the science of learning. Ross discusses how high-impact teaching strategies and high-quality instructional materials led to measurable improvements in achievement, reduced inequities, and enhanced student motivation and behaviour. They also explore why the science of learning movement is critical for the future of education in Australia—and beyond. This episode will be of interest to educators, school leaders, policymakers, and anyone passionate about improving teaching and learning outcomes. ANNOUNCEMENTS Free Webinar with Dr. Anna Stokke and Dr. Ben Solomon: The Science of Math Instruction: Using Evidence-Based Practices in the Classroom, May 8, 2025. Registration link: https://home.edweb.net/webinar/mathskills20250508/ researchED Toronto: https://researched.org.uk/event/researched-toronto-2025/ TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction and announcements [00:02:33] Introducing Ross Fox [00:04:14] Understanding the Australian education system [00:09:56] Challenges in education and the Catalyst program [00:11:03] The importance of effective teaching and learning [00:19:22] Implementing the Science of Reading [00:26:10] Defining and supporting learning [00:30:45] High impact teaching practices [00:32:12] Knowledge-rich curriculum [00:36:17] Implementing effective math pedagogy [00:40:49] Supporting teachers with high-quality math instructional materials [00:44:28] Addressing educational inequities [00:47:34] The Catalyst program: Goals and implementation [00:49:10] Assessment and feedback for effective teaching [01:00:53] Professional learning and teacher support [01:04:09] Future directions and optimism in education RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 26 Cognitive load theory in math class with David Morkunas https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-znh5k-15f7937 Ep 27 Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jc9mq-161ecac Ep 33 Educational leadership: Improving math and literacy with Scott Hill https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-vpzf8-16d0c17 Ep 36 How to build automaticity with math facts: A practical guide https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-3ny3k-17323a9 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-46-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-46-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear - Kitten Blue Dot Sessions – Town Market, Momentary Ease, Mazamorra, Squirrel Commotion Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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| A decade of decline: Examining falling test scores with Mike Petrilli (Ep 45) | 11 Apr 2025 | 00:59:36 | |
In this episode, host and math professor Anna Stokke interviews Mike Petrilli, President of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, about the role of standardized testing in K–12 education. They discuss the benefits and criticisms of standardized tests, the methodologies behind tests like NAEP, international comparisons with PISA and TIMSS, long-term trends in student performance, and the consequences of declines in student achievement. Highlights include a discussion of Mississippi's educational success despite high poverty rates, and the potential influences of modern educational policies and smartphones. Mike Petrilli emphasizes the importance of accurate measurement for policymaking and shares advice on influencing educational policy. This episode is a must-listen for educators, policymakers, parents, and anyone interested in the future of education. FREE WEBINAR: The Science of Math Instruction: Using Evidence-Based Practices in the Classroom, May 8, 2025. Registration link: https://home.edweb.net/webinar/mathskills20250508/ TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:18] Discussion on standardized testing [00:06:14] Criticisms of standardized testing [00:12:25] Frequency and levels of testing [00:20:04] International perspectives on testing [00:23:11] Understanding NAEP [00:28:07] Recent trends in NAEP scores [00:28:41] Impact of the pandemic [00:31:16] Pre-pandemic declines [00:32:26] Comparing international trends: PISA scores [00:33:08] The role of smartphones [00:35:26] TIMSS scores [00:38:16] Long-term impact of declining academic achievement [00:39:20] Efforts to address learning loss [00:42:12] States that bucked the trend: the “Mississippi miracle” [00:46:44] Low-performing states [00:49:54] Future strategies for education systems [00:53:22] Influencing educational policy [00:55:49] Conclusion and final thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 33. Educational leadership: Improving math and literacy with Scott Hill https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-vpzf8-16d0c17 Ep 32. Identifying and educating advanced students with Jonathan Plucker https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-y6cxs-16ad6f1 Ep 25. Understanding reform math ideology with Tom Loveless https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-7ih4c-15dbf9a Ep 18. Education myth-busting with Daisy Christodoulou https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-z2q9q-14ce080 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-45-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-45-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Mazamorra, Tarte Tatin, Willow Willow, Betty Dear, Lissa Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Mailbag: Building Thinking Classrooms, number talks & more with Zach Groshell (Ep 44) | 02 Apr 2025 | 00:49:03 | |
Dr. Anna Stokke and guest Dr. Zach Groshell answer listener questions in a special mailbag episode. They cover strategies for managing varying levels of math proficiency in the classroom, critique the Building Thinking Classrooms approach, and discuss whether number talks should be prioritized for developing math fact fluency. This discussion provides practical insights and critiques on current educational practices to help teachers improve math instruction. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 02:44 Listener Question: Differentiating Direct Instruction 05:52 Zach's advice on differentiation 10:10 Listener Question: Building Thinking Classrooms 11:20 Are multiple access points effective? 15:14 Critique of Building Thinking Classrooms 19:03 Does research support using BTC? 20:53 Is everyone doing it wrong? 22:17 Observing BTC in action 23:46 Defining thinking and why mimicking is important 27:30 Permanent vs. non-permanent learning surfaces 29:04 The practicality of mini whiteboards 31:34 Advice from Anna & Zach on whether to use BTC 36:20 Listener question: Number talks and math fact fluency 37:53 Critique of number talks 40:09 Using effective methods for building math fact automaticity 42:19 Advice on mental math strategies 44:18 Using instructional time efficiently 46:21 Conclusion and book description RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 10 Maximizing learning through explicit instruction with Zach Groshell https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-px8h6-1443528 Ep 36 How to build automaticity with math facts: A practical guide https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-3ny3k-17323a9 Ep 2 Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-zgw6i-13b33df Ep 3 The Science of Math with Amanda VanDerHeyden https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bksbz-13c732d Ep 23 Red flags in education research with Ben Solomon https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-cp5xt-156072c Ep 29 Math fact crisis: strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-u9y84-165d773 Ep 30 Math Fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e Ep 41 Supporting students with math difficulties with Sarah Powell https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-ciqgm-17def6b EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-44-transcript MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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| How advocacy is changing reading instruction with Jamie Metsala (Ep 43) | 21 Mar 2025 | 01:15:17 | |
Join Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Jamie Metsala, one of two content area experts on the Ontario Human Rights Commission’s Right to Read public inquiry. Jamie shares her expertise on the importance of strong early instruction in foundational reading skills, the pitfalls of balanced literacy, and the urgent need for evidence-based practices in education. They explore the role of parent advocacy and the far-reaching implications of the Right to Read report, not just for Ontario, but for education systems across Canada and beyond. Jamie explains why universal screening matters, how structured literacy benefits all readers, and what effective intervention looks like. They also discuss the importance of teacher preparation programs and ongoing professional development to equip educators with the tools they need to teach reading successfully. With many provinces and states still relying on ineffective reading instruction, systemic change is critical. Jamie offers valuable advice for advocates, making this conversation essential listening for educators, parents, and anyone advocating for evidence-based education reform. researchED Toronto 2025: https://researched.org.uk/event/researched-toronto-2025/ NOTE: The resource page contains links to reports, articles, and websites mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-43-resources TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Introduction [00:04:06] The Ontario Human Rights Commission Right to Read inquiry [00:06:40] Reading achievement in Ontario and other provinces [00:13:19] The impact of balanced literacy and its flawed assumptions [00:19:21] What science says about teaching foundational reading skills [00:29:15] Universal screening and early interventions [00:32:30] Problems with Reading Recovery [00:36:32] How Canadian provinces are responding to the Right to Read inquiry [00:41:10] Teacher preparation and the resistance to change [00:50:25] Challenges in implementing evidence-based literacy instruction [00:52:06] Debunking myths: Do all students learn differently? [00:54:20] Structured literacy and the importance of fluency [01:00:43] Consequences of poor reading instruction [01:06:50] Advice for advocates [01:12:47] Final thoughts: The future of reading and math education RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 20 Reading and math: Parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-8aj3f-1508af6 Ep 27 Using evidence in education with Pamela Snow https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-jc9mq-161ecac Ep 29 Math fact crisis: strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-u9y84-165d773 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-43-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-43-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Proliferate, Balti, Momentary Ease Podington Bear – Camp, Kitten, Squirrel Commotion Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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| Math Academy: Optimizing student learning with Alex Smith and Justin Skycak (Ep 42) | 28 Feb 2025 | 01:14:55 | |
Join Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Alex Smith, Director of Curriculum, and Justin Skycak, Director of Analytics, from Math Academy. Math Academy is an AI-powered online learning platform designed around science of learning principles. They discuss Bloom's 2 sigma problem and explore how Math Academy aims to address it. They also explain how the platform leverages knowledge graphs to support mastery learning and highlight key instructional strategies such as worked examples, spaced practice, and the testing effect. They explore how Math Academy manages cognitive load to optimize learning as well as its success with adult learners and advanced students. They also discuss the concrete-pictorial-abstract approach in math instruction. To wrap up, Justin and Alex share exciting updates and future plans for Math Academy. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in math education. NOTE: The resource page contains resources and research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-42-resources TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 04:41 Bloom's 2 sigma problem 10:11 Mastery learning 13:17 Math knowledge graph 21:03 Importance of prerequisite skills 26:42 Worked examples 33:11 Concrete-pictorial-abstract discussion 40:56 Incorporating spaced practice 47:47 Leveraging the testing effect 52:14 Independent learning and incentives 55:51 Math Academy for adult learners 01:01:49 Accelerating advanced students 01:09:57 The future of Math Academy 01:13:26 Final thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 32. Identifying and educating advanced students with Jonathan Plucker https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-y6cxs-16ad6f1 Ep 15. Modern relevance in the math curriculum with Brian Conrad https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-gek66-148967a Ep 7. How to excel in math and other tough subjects with Barbara Oakley https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bqs8p-14068f2 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-42-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-42-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Balti, Betty Dear, Willow Willow, Partly Sage Podington Bear – Camp, Kitten Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| Supporting students with math difficulties with Sarah Powell (Ep 41) | 07 Feb 2025 | 00:58:53 | |
Join Anna Stokke in conversation with Dr. Sarah Powell, a leading expert in teaching students with math difficulties. They discuss the shortcomings of a recent joint position statement by the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM) and the Council for Exceptional Children (CEC) on teaching math to students with disabilities. Sarah critiques the statement’s failure to include critical evidence-based practices, such as explicit instruction, and its reliance on vague or unsupported recommendations. She highlights research-backed strategies that can truly help students struggling with math, emphasizing the ethical responsibility of educators, policymakers, and advocates to ensure effective math instruction. Sarah also co-authored a response to the position statement. Note: The resource page for this episode contains a link to the NCTM/CEC position statement, Sarah’s group’s response, and other articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-41-resources TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 05:06 Understanding math disabilities 08:19 The NCTM/CEC position statement 17:06 Does growth mindset help math outcomes? 17:53 Is UDL evidence based? 21:57 Evidence-based practices for teaching math 29:07 The omission of explicit instruction 30:55 Why explicit instruction is important 35:51 The IES practice guide 38:50 Consequences of poor instruction 41:44 The Influence of NCTM and CEC 43:26 Recommendations for effective math instruction 49:43 Preventing math difficulties 56:02 Final thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 29 Math fact crisis: Strategies for improving numeracy with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-u9y84-165d773 Ep 30 Math Fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e Ep 25 Understanding math reform ideology with Tom Loveless https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-7ih4c-15dbf9a Ep 21 The right to learn math with Daniel Ansari https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-4nv9n-1527568 Ep 3 The Science of Math with Amanda VanDerHeyden https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bksbz-13c732d EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-41-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-41-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Thannoid, Tarte Tatin, Cornicob, Momentary Ease Podington Bear – Proliferate Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social | |||
| From math to science: How weak math skills hurt students with Therese Markow (Ep 40) | 24 Jan 2025 | 00:54:23 | |
In this episode, Anna Stokke welcomes Dr. Therese Markow, Professor Emeritus at the University of California, San Diego, and host of the Critically Speaking podcast. They discuss the critical intersection of math and science education. Therese shares her firsthand experiences as a geneticist and post-secondary educator, highlighting the alarming decline in basic numeracy among students and its impact on their success in fields like biology and genetics. The conversation covers fascinating studies linking math experience to logical reasoning and brain development. Therese tackles the question of whether math skills have a genetic component. They also discuss societal and educational implications of weak math skills, including how some popular teaching philosophies might be failing students. Whether you're an educator, a math or science enthusiast scientist, or simply passionate about improving education, this episode offers something for everyone. NOTE: The resource page contains research articles mentioned in the episode: annastokke.com/ep-40-resources TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 03:24 Math skills in science students 11:25 Impact on university curriculum standards 19:36 Links between math and logic skills 28:03 Are math abilities genetic? 28:40 Heritability studies: Twins and math abilities 38:06 Effective math teaching influences math ability 41:27 Gender and math: Debunking myths 42:48 Personal stories about math interest 50:56 Importance of basic math skills in life 52:58 Conclusion and final Thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES Ep 2. Evidence-based teaching strategies with Paul Kirschner https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-zgw6i-13b33df Ep 16. Applying cognitive science to education with Daniel Willingham https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-szugf-149dff1 Ep 22. Mindsets and educational misconceptions with Carl Hendrick https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-78zv9-15493b1 Ep 35. Preparation for university math with Darja Barr and Dan Wolczuk https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-b8ssx-171a631 EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/ep-40-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/ep-40-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Blue Dot Sessions – Balti, Cases to Rest Podington Bear – No Squirrel Commotion, Kitten Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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| Universal screening in math with Amanda VanDerHeyden (Ep 50) | 18 Jun 2025 | 00:53:55 | |
Host and math professor Anna Stokke talks to Dr. Amanda VanDerHeyden about a topic many Chalk & Talk listeners have asked about: universal screening in math. Amanda explains what universal screening is, why it matters, and how schools can use it to identify students who need extra support. They also discuss how to choose validated screeners, common mistakes to avoid, and how screening connects to effective intervention. This is a practical, informative episode for teachers, school leaders, and anyone looking to strengthen math instruction. [00:00:00] Introduction [00:04:17] Overview of universal screening [00:07:51] Universal screening in math vs reading [00:11:36] How to find validated screening tools [00:19:32] Should screeners match the curriculum? [00:23:31] 145 math skills that forecast success and when to teach them [00:29:24] The problem with making screeners too easy [00:31:37] Is Acadience a good screening tool? [00:32:43] Comparing reading and math screening systems [00:37:09] Recap: What to look for in a good screener [00:40:12] Frequency and timing of screening [00:44:18] The growing importance of math screening [00:48:45] Addressing teacher concerns with screening results [00:52:31] Conclusion and final thoughts RELEVANT PREVIOUS EPISODES The Science of Math with Amanda VanDerHeyden https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-bksbz-13c732d Math and the myth of ability with John Mighton https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-22c7a-139dc72 Reading and math: Parallels and pitfalls with Matthew Burns https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-8aj3f-1508af6 Supporting students with math difficulties with Sarah Powell https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-ciqgm-17def6b Math fluency matters with Brian Poncy https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-pj6z6-166741e EPISODE TRANSCRIPT https://www.annastokke.com/transcripts/ep-50-transcript EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.annastokke.com/resources/ep-50-resources MUSIC Intro and Outro: Coma Media – Catch it Podington Bear: No Squirrel Commotion Blue Dot Sessions: Avoiding the Backroom, Momentary Ease Website: www.annastokke.com X: @rastokke LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/anna-stokke-3a1b4c Bluesky: @rastokke.bsky.social
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