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In this episode, Janey and Penny are joined by Helen from Dynz Designz, specialists in window treatments that don’t just look good—they work for the way you live. From honeycomb blinds and curtains to shutters and automation, Helen explains how to choose window treatments that balance aesthetics, thermal efficiency, light, and privacy. Whether you’re building or renovating, this conversation highlights why window treatments need to be considered early in the design process and how they can even become statement pieces in your home.

In this episode you’ll hear about:

• The challenges of window treatments and why they’re often considered tricky
• Thermal efficiency, light control, and privacy: what to consider from the outset
• The best products for different needs: honeycomb blinds, roller blinds, curtains, and shutters
• Mistakes to avoid when selecting blinds and curtains, and why function matters as much as form
• How window treatments can act as functional art with custom fabrics, prints, and textures
• Tips on longevity and caring for natural fabrics like linen and cotton
• Automation and motorised options: planning, installation, and emerging trends
• Solutions for tricky windows, including shaped and gable-end designs
• Helen’s dream project if budget wasn’t a constraint
  
  

Reflections from Helen:

• “Honeycomb blinds are your go-to for thermal efficiency—they keep warmth in and reflect light back out.”
• “Curtains, blinds, and shutters should be planned from the very start—it’s too late to fix once the house is built.”
• “Window treatments can be a form of functional art, reflecting personality and style in a space.”
• “Automation and motorised solutions are changing what’s possible, especially for shaped windows.”
  
  

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In this episode, Janey is joined by Penny and Verity to explore the evolving meaning of luxury in home design, moving beyond size, flash, and labels, and redefining it through wellness, sustainability, and personal values. They dive into how our perceptions of luxury are deeply personal, shaped not only by aesthetics but also by the way a space makes us feel.

From investing in quality pieces to designing homes that support balance and wellbeing, Penny and Verity share why good design is one of the greatest luxuries of all. They also reflect on how clients’ choices and dislikes reveal what truly matters, and why high-performing, sustainable homes should be the standard rather than an exception.

Grounded, thoughtful, and full of practical insights, this episode is a must-listen for anyone rethinking what it means to live well in today’s world.

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In this episode you’ll hear about:

• Why luxury is shifting towards wellness, meaning, and sustainability
• How personal values influence our idea of luxury
• The emotional impact of spaces and why “how you feel” matters in design
• Why good design is a luxury that reflects thoughtfulness and quality
• The role of balance between work, family, and self-care
• What clients often prioritise in luxury items and how that shapes design decisions
• Why investing in quality can save money long-term
  
  
  

Reflections from Penny & Verity:
 “Good design is a luxury.”
 “A silent home would be amazing.”
 “Don’t sweat the small stuff.”

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In this episode, Janey and Penny sit down with Tane from Create, an architecture and engineering studio shaping purposeful, high-performance buildings across Aotearoa. Tane brings both heart and rigour to his work, balancing innovation, sustainability, and emotional experience with a deep respect for craft.

Together, they unpack what “modular” really means (spoiler: it’s not just prefab), how good design can change how we feel in a space, and why the best architecture isn’t about ego — it’s about relationships.

They also explore what it takes to push boundaries, think long-term, and stay curious through every project — from national stadiums to residential dens.

 In this episode:
 • What modular construction really looks like in practice
 • Designing for emotion: the power of contrast in spatial experience
 • Cost, time, and why prefab might be the future
 • The quiet joy of designing something your kids can play in
 • Timber, sustainability, and what’s next for the industry
 • Why the most powerful design tool might be listening

 Listener Q&A:
 One tip for anyone wanting to build outside the box?
- Research everything
- Speak up early
- Be open to new materials

 Reflections:
 “I want people to feel different emotions in different areas of the house.”
 “The interiors matter — that’s where we actually live.”
 “There’s no point in a beautiful house that doesn’t fit the people in it.”

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This week, Janey and Verity sit down with Sean from SA Plumbing Supply, a family-owned company transforming how we think about accessible bathrooms. Together, they explore how bathrooms can be safe, functional, and beautiful, without compromising on style. Future-proofing isn’t optional — it’s about creating spaces that grow with us.

Sean shares his expertise on universal design, integrating grab rails and shower supports seamlessly, and navigating outdated standards to deliver practical, long-lasting solutions. Whether you’re designing a home for now or the future, this conversation is packed with insights on accessible design that doesn’t look like a hospital.

What we cover in this episode:
 • How SA Plumbing Supply started and Sean’s passion for accessible bathroom design
 • Challenging the perception that accessible bathrooms must look “hospital-like”
 • Integrating grab rails, shower rails, and other supports invisibly into bathroom design
 • Navigating NZS 4121 and Life Mark standards for residential and commercial spaces
 • Tips for future-proofing bathrooms: reinforcing walls, planning for universal design, and choosing load-bearing products
 • Innovations in accessible bathrooms, including cushioned shower seats and multifunctional rails
 • How accessible design adds long-term value to your home while keeping aesthetics intact

Listener Q&A
 How can I future-proof my bathroom without compromising design?

• Reinforce walls during construction to support load-bearing rails
• Choose versatile products that combine function with style
• Think beyond disability — consider everyone’s changing needs over time

Reflections from the conversation:
 “Accessible and universally designed bathrooms don’t have to compromise on style.” – Sean
 “Future-proofing isn’t just about compliance; it’s about comfort, safety, and independence for everyone.” – Janey
 “A well-designed accessible bathroom adds value today and for decades to come.” – Verity

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Sean — Founder, SA Plumbing Supply

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In this episode, Janey is joined by Penny and Verity, founders of the Architecture & Design Library and your regular co-hosts, for a heartfelt conversation about the spaces that shaped who we are. From childhood bedrooms to family homes under construction, and even unforgettable bathrooms, we explore the memories and moments that made us fall in love with interiors.

We reflect on how rooms can impact us beyond design — stirring feelings of belonging, safety, and creativity. Together we uncover the textures, colors, and light that make a space feel like home, and share the lessons these spaces taught us about life, resilience, and trust.

This episode is full of stories, laughter, and insights into the personal side of design — perfect for anyone who has ever stepped into a room and felt changed by it.

 Have a question for Penny and Verity? Send us a message on Instagram @betweentheII_IIs

In this episode you’ll hear about:

• Childhood bedrooms and the freedom to create a space of your own
• What it was like growing up in homes built and renovated by family
• Why bathrooms became surprising classrooms for design inspiration
• How color, light, and texture transform the way we feel in a room
• The mentors, advice, and instincts that still guide us today
• Why intuition is one of the most valuable tools in design (and life)
• Personal reflections on creativity, balance, and showing up every day
  
  

Reflections from Penny & Verity:

“Some spaces teach us through beauty — others through challenge. Either way, they shape who we are.”
 “Design isn’t just visual. It’s about how a space makes you feel — safe, inspired, or simply at home.”
 “Trusting your gut gets easier with experience, but it’s one of the most powerful tools you have.”

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This week, Janey and Verity sit down with Davina, Colour Specialist at Dulux New Zealand, to talk all things colour — and take a peek inside the 2026 Dulux Colour Forecast.

From the grounding calm of Elemental to the dreamy optimism of Ethereal and the eclectic confidence of Evoke, Davina walks us through the three palettes set to influence our homes and spaces in the coming years.

We chat about what goes into predicting the colours we’ll love next, why we’re seeing a shift towards bolder, mood-driven design, and how global trends are filtering into the way Kiwis are styling their homes.

What we cover in this episode:

• How Dulux puts together its annual colour forecast — from Milan Design Week to local insights
 • The story behind the three 2026 palettes: Elemental, Ethereal, and Evoke
 • Why chrome, metallics, and high-shine finishes are having a moment
 • Colour drenching — what it is and why designers are obsessed with it
 • Why New Zealanders are becoming braver with colour in unexpected spaces
 • The emotional impact of colour and how it shapes the way we feel at home

Listener Q&A

How do I choose the right colour palette for my home?

• Think about the mood you want the room to create
• Pay attention to undertones — they make all the difference
• Mix grounding neutrals with bolder accents for balance

Reflections from the conversation:

“It’s not the colours themselves — it’s the combinations that make them feel fresh and exciting.” – Davina

“Colour drenching transforms a room. It’s modern, cohesive, and creates a real mood.” – Verity

“People are starting to embrace more colour. Whites will always be popular, but we’re seeing bolder choices popping up in unexpected spaces.” – Davina

Featured Guest

Davina — Colour Specialist, Dulux New Zealand

Explore the Dulux 2026 Colour Forecast → dulux.co.nz

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In this episode, Janey and Verity sit down with Alison from Tribe Home, a premium rug brand creating handmade pieces with heart, heritage, and intention. From ancient weaving techniques to colour forecasting for 2026, this episode weaves together craft, culture, and creativity in surprising and soulful ways.

Alison shares the story of Tribe’s founder, Tina Richards, and how a life-changing trip to India transformed not just the business — but the way Tribe approaches rugs altogether. Think: seasonal collections, deep design thinking, and pieces that bring people home to themselves.

Together, they explore how rugs do more than just fill a space — they speak to it.

 In this episode:
 • Why rugs are the emotional anchor of a room
 • The difference between handmade and machine-made (and why it matters)
 • Rug sizing rules every home needs to know
 • Blue is the new green? 2026 colour predictions
 • Sustainability, story, and supporting weaving communities
 • How to choose (and care for) a rug that lasts a lifetime

 Listener Q&A:
 What should I think about when choosing a rug?
- Think about who’s using the room
- Size really does matter
- Layer texture and tone from the ground up

- Reflections:
 "A machine-made rug might fill a space, but a handmade rug speaks to it."
"You’re not handing down a Kmart rug — you’re handing down an heirloom."
"Sometimes the rug is where people feel the most themselves — grounded, safe, home."

 Featured Guest:
 Alison from Tribe Home
Explore their beautiful collections online at tribehome.com.au
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In this episode, Janey is joined by Penny and Verity, founders of the Architecture & Design Library and your regular co-hosts, for an honest, practical conversation about starting and growing a business in the creative industry. From branding basics to marketing strategies and knowing when to pivot, they share the real lessons learned along their journey.

We dive into what it takes to set up your business for success — even on a limited budget — and explore the power of consistency, storytelling, and community when building your brand. Penny and Verity also reveal exciting plans for the new wellness hub at the library and why caring for your mind and body is just as important as growing your business.

Packed with tips, personal stories, and a few laughs, this episode is perfect for anyone starting a business, refreshing their brand, or looking for practical inspiration from two women shaping the design industry from the inside out.

✨ Have a question for Penny and Verity? Send us a message on Instagram @betweentheII_IIs

In this episode you’ll hear about:

• How to set up your business on a budget using free tools and smart resources
• Why brand consistency is essential from day one
• The importance of knowing your audience and investing in the right marketing channels
• How to stay flexible and pivot without losing focus
• What makes a dream client — and the red flags to watch for
• The vision behind the Architecture & Design Library’s wellness hub
• Penny and Verity’s tips for balancing creativity, business, and wellbeing
  
  

Reflections from Penny & Verity:

“Consistency builds trust — from branding to social media, a cohesive message matters.”
 “Be flexible, but stay true to your core values. That’s how businesses grow without losing themselves.”
 “Your wellbeing fuels your creativity. Looking after your mind and body is essential for long-term success.”

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In this episode, Janey and Verity sit down with Julija from Bremworth — New Zealand’s leading designer of premium wool carpets and rugs. With over 60 years of innovation behind them, Bremworth has become a trusted name in natural flooring, combining performance, sustainability, and timeless style.

Julija takes us inside the world of wool — why this renewable fibre is unmatched for warmth, acoustics, and comfort, and how Bremworth is shaping the future of flooring with sustainability at the heart of everything they do. She also shares practical advice for renovators and homeowners, from choosing the right texture and colour to caring for your carpets so they last a lifetime.

We explore Bremworth’s stunning collections, from soft, calming neutrals to bold new tones that are inspiring designers across Aotearoa, and discuss how flooring choices can completely transform the feel of your home.

In this episode you’ll hear about:

• Why wool is the ultimate natural fibre — renewable, hypoallergenic, insulating, and biodegradable
• The benefits of choosing natural over synthetic flooring
• How colour and texture trends are shifting in New Zealand homes
• Practical tips for renovators and homeowners when choosing flooring
• Caring for wool carpets: what to do, what to avoid, and how to keep them looking beautiful
• How Bremworth is leading the way in sustainable design and innovation
• Why flooring sets the tone for your entire home
  
  

Reflections from Julija:

“Flooring is one of the biggest decisions you’ll make — it transforms not only how your home looks but how it feels.”

“Wool is nature’s miracle fibre — renewable, durable, and designed to last.”

“Sustainability isn’t a trend for us, it’s the way forward.”

Want to learn more?

🌐 www.bremworth.co.nz

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In this episode, Janey and Rebecca sit down with Lee from JSC Timber — a family business with roots going back 125 years. Based in Riverhead, Auckland, JSC has become a trusted name in architectural timber across Aotearoa. They’re best known for Western Red Cedar and their range of thermally modified timbers, chosen for both performance and beauty in residential and commercial projects.

Lee talks about how timber is changing — from new profiling and coatings to introducing thermally modified species like Amber and Taxon. He also shares how JSC works alongside PSP, widening their offering from timber into plastics and surface finishes to create full building envelope solutions. With sustainability at the centre of everything they do, Lee reflects on the future of timber, the challenges of sourcing, and the satisfaction of seeing a project completed.

In this episode you’ll hear about:

• What makes JSC stand out — from their products to their architectural support
  
  
• Thermally Modified Timber (TMT): what it is and why it matters
  
  
• Western Red Cedar, Amber, Tiger and Taxon — and where they’re being used
  
  
• Why profiles matter: bevel back, verticals, negative details and more
  
  
• Scumble and Coda: JSC’s plant-based coatings
  
  
• How colour trends are shifting from black back to warm timber tones
  
  
• Sustainability in practice: PEFC and FSC certifications, timber lifecycle, and ethical sourcing
  
  
• PSP and Cover Styl’ — cost-effective surface options
  
  
• Timber indoors and out — ceilings, headboards, cladding and beyond
  
  
• Practical support for builders and architects — QR-coded install guides and in-house know-how
  
  
• The power of partnerships: how JSC and PSP work together with clients
  
  
• Current challenges and opportunities: supply chains, species protection, innovation
  
  
• Why site visits matter — and the satisfaction of a project done well
  
  
  

Reflections from Lee:

• “Thermally modified timber is a game changer — durable, chemical-free, and beautiful.”
  
  
• “We’re not just selling timber. We’re helping bring people’s visions to life.”
  
  
• “Profiles are like fashion for your walls — shape and function together.”
  
  
• “Coating is everything. It protects the timber and shows off its character.”
  
  
• “Sustainability isn’t just about the product — it’s about the people, the processes, and the future.”
  
  

Want to learn more?
 🌐 www.jsc.co.nz | www.psp.co.nz
📸 Instagram: @jsctimber

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In this episode, Janey and Verity welcome Hamish from Autex Acoustics, a proudly New Zealand company innovating acoustic solutions since 1967. Starting as Auckland Textiles with recycled carpet underlays, Autex has evolved into a global leader in sound and thermal insulation products made from sustainable materials like recycled plastic bottles and New Zealand wool.

They explore how sound shapes our experience of spaces—whether it’s classrooms, cafes, or homes—and why thoughtful acoustic design is essential but often overlooked. Hamish shares how their signature Cube panels combine 80% recycled content with stunning customisation, including digital printing and laser etching, to create beautiful, functional installations. They also discuss the importance of early acoustic planning and introduce their groundbreaking wool product Embrace, which has earned a global green tag platinum rating.

🧵 In this episode:

• The journey from carpet underlay to high-performance acoustic panels
  
  
  
• How 222 recycled plastic bottles go into each 24mm Cube panel
  
  
  
• Balancing aesthetics and function with customizable, NZ-made products
  
  
  
• Why cafés, open-plan homes, and classrooms often struggle with noise
  
  
  
• The science behind reverberation time and its impact on learning and wellbeing
  
  
  
• The launch of Embrace, a wool-based acoustic product with world-first sustainability credentials
  
  
  
• Practical advice for builders and renovators on integrating acoustics early in their projects
  
  
  
• Autex’s global reach and commitment to local manufacturing and innovation
  
  
  

💬 Reflections:
 “Sound isn’t just noise; it shapes how we connect and feel in a space.”
 “Good acoustic design supports focus, conversation, and wellbeing.”
 “Sustainability at Autex goes beyond materials—it’s about the whole lifecycle.”
 “Treating sound can be beautiful, even artistic, and add real value to interiors.”
 “Start the acoustic conversation early—don’t wait until it’s a problem.”

💌 Want to learn more?
 Find Autex Acoustics:
 Website: www.autexglobal.com
 Instagram: @autexglobal

Explore product ranges, case studies, and inspiration for your next project. Connect with Autex to bring thoughtful sound solutions to your space.

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In this episode, Penny and Verity dive into the often-overlooked reality of creative burnout in the design industry. They share personal experiences of hitting the wall, from the invisible weight of endless admin to the mental toll of constant creative demands. This is an honest, heartfelt conversation about protecting your mental health, finding ways to recharge, and leading with kindness in a fast-paced, high-expectation industry.

They explore why taking breaks is not a luxury but a necessity, the value of being transparent with clients when energy runs low, and how small acts of kindness can lift team morale. The discussion also covers the vital role of mediation in smoothing out design project challenges, the unique energy of co-working spaces, and the leadership qualities that help teams thrive.

A powerful thread throughout is the reminder—especially for women in business—to know their worth and to stop apologising for sending an invoice.

🧵 In this episode:

• What creative burnout feels like—and why it’s so common in the design industry
  
  
  
• How admin tasks can drain creativity and energy
  
  
  
• The importance of taking intentional mental health breaks
  
  
  
• Why honesty with clients about fatigue builds trust
  
  
  
• The role of kindness in creating a positive workplace culture
  
  
  
• Mediation as an essential part of successful design projects
  
  
  
• How co-working spaces attract and inspire like-minded people
  
  
  
• Leading by example: the mark of strong leadership
  
  
  
• Recognising women’s worth in business and removing guilt from invoicing
  
  
  

💬 Reflections:

• “The admin that burns us out.”
  
  
  
• “Mediation’s massive in our job.”
  
  
  
• “Know your worth.”
  
  
  
• “Taking a break is sometimes the most productive thing you can do.”
  
  
  
• “Kindness in the workplace is never wasted.”
  
  
  

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In this episode, Janey and Rebecca welcome Breidi from Windsor Architectural Hardware, a proud Kiwi brand crafting beautiful, functional hardware since 1984. From humble beginnings in a Christchurch backyard shed to a nationwide business with a global reach, Windsor blends tradition with innovation in every piece.

They dive into how small details — from brass finishes to door colours — shape the atmosphere and story of a home. Breidi shares what sets Windsor apart: their hand-finished living brass tones, extensive product range, and the evolving trends that influence design choices today. Whether you’re building new or renovating, this episode offers insight into the thoughtful hardware decisions that elevate a home’s style and function.

🧵 In this episode:

• Why coloured doors are becoming a bold new canvas for hardware design
  
  
  
• How Windsor offers over 10,000 product codes for every door and project type
  
  
  
• The difference between brass, zinc, stainless steel, and powder-coated hardware
  
  
  
• What “living finishes” mean and how they tell a story over time
  
  
  
• Renovation realities: measuring backsets and hole sizes for retrofit hardware
  
  
  
• Support Windsor provides to architects and designers, including sample suites and presentations
  
  
  
• Sustainability initiatives: cutting plastic packaging by 90% and moving to recyclable materials
  
  
  
• Sneak peek at new ranges and revolutionary finishes coming in the next 12 months
  
  
  
• Tips on when to start thinking about hardware in your build or renovation
  
  
  
• Breidi’s favourite piece—a reimagined founder’s pull handle celebrating 40 years of craftsmanship
  
  
  
• Future trends: minimalism, timeless design, and the ongoing love for brass
  
  
  

💬 Reflections:
 “People are getting braver with door colours—deep blues and sage greens make brass sing.”
 “Living finishes evolve naturally, making every handle unique to its home.”
 “Hardware is jewellery for the home—it sets the tone from the first touch.”
 “Our handcrafted finishes pass from our hands to yours, becoming part of your story.”
 “Sustainability means smart design that lasts and thoughtful packaging choices.”

💌 Want to learn more?
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 Website: www.windsorhardware.co.nz
 Instagram: @windsorhardware

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In this episode, Janey and Verity sit down with Umesh from Heritage Carpets to explore how flooring design goes beyond aesthetics to influence wellbeing, sustainability, and our connection to space. Heritage Carpets has been leading the way in design-driven flooring for over 18 years, blending innovation with craftsmanship to create floors that don’t just cover rooms but transform how we feel in them. From eco-friendly recycled nylon carpets made here in New Zealand, to stunning custom wool rugs born from artistic collaboration, this conversation invites you to rethink the foundation beneath your feet—and its powerful impact on the spaces we live and work in.

Episode Summary:
 Heritage Carpets is about more than just flooring—it’s about lasting quality, conscious design, and creating environments that support wellbeing. Umesh shares the company’s evolution from focusing on cost to championing sustainable, durable products sourced both globally and locally. You’ll hear how Heritage Carpets embraces innovation—like bio-based synthetics and 100% recycled nylon—and how neuroscience and aesthetics shape their approach to flooring that supports mood and productivity in commercial and residential spaces alike.

Discover the story behind standout products such as Econa, a locally made carpet crafted with recycled materials, and the beautiful wool rugs created in collaboration with artist Miranda Brown that bring biophilic design to life. Umesh also sheds light on common flooring challenges, the importance of early flooring conversations in any build or renovation, and emerging color and texture trends blending timelessness with modern living.

This episode offers thoughtful insights and practical advice for homeowners, designers, architects, and builders seeking flooring solutions that truly last and feel right.

What You’ll Learn:

• How Heritage Carpets evolved its sustainability focus and product sourcing
  
  
• The relationship between flooring, wellbeing, and neuroscience research
  
  
• Innovative eco-friendly materials like bio-based synthetics and recycled nylons
  
  
• The art and impact of locally made custom wool rugs
  
  
• Why starting flooring decisions early matters
  
  
• Balancing durability, design, and environmental care
  
  
• Current and emerging trends in flooring colors and textures
  
  
• How to build a strong partnership with flooring experts
  
  

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In this episode of Between the Walls, Janey sits down with co-hosts Penny and Verity from the Architecture + Design Library for an honest, unfiltered conversation about what’s really happening behind the scenes in the design world.

From client red flags and why budget transparency matters, to how AI can streamline your design process (without replacing real human insight), this one covers a lot of ground—and delivers a few good laughs along the way.

You’ll also get a look at what’s coming up this month at the AD Library: passive house insights, benchtop showdowns, and Dulux’s 2026 colour forecast. If you’re building, renovating, or designing, this episode is packed with ideas, advice, and real talk.

Key Takeaways
 – Why “no budget” is a red flag—and how to have better money conversations
 – Client boundaries: texting at midnight vs. genuine connection
 – Redefining AI: how tech can actually help the design process
– CPD, product updates + keeping pace in a changing industry
– The power of in-person presentations and shared learning
– Staying inspired: why it takes effort and intention
– How to use AI images as a springboard for real-life design
– What not to do when working with a designer
– Penny + Verity on imposter syndrome and owning your space
– Paint, pivoting + problem-solving on a tight timeline

Events Mentioned
 📅 7 August — Passive Homes with Mark from My Building
📅 21 August — Benchtop Breakdown with designers + suppliers
📅 28 August — Dulux 2026 Colour Forecast with Davina

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In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Between the Walls, Janey and Verity sit down with Wānaka builder Glen Thurston to talk about mental health in the construction industry. Glen shares his own story—one that includes burnout, alcohol dependence, and suicidal thoughts—and how he found the courage to ask for help and turn his life around.

We explore the brutal reality behind the statistics: 53 construction workers lost to suicide each year in New Zealand. In response, Glen launched Turn the Corner—a mission to climb Corner Peak 53 times in 53 days, each climb honouring a life lost. No fundraising, no fanfare—just a call to start talking.

Glen also shares how his journey led to Mental Hunts, an initiative working to change the way mental health is handled for firearms license holders and rural communities. This is an open, honest, and important conversation for anyone in or around the building industry.

Content warning: This episode includes discussions of suicide and depression.

Key Takeaways
 – 53 lives a year: the mental health crisis in construction
 – Glen’s personal story: from rock bottom to recovery
 – Why opening up to a GP was the hardest—and best—decision
 – The power of movement: why walking and talking matters
 – Financial pressure, industry stress, and toxic culture
 – How Turn the Corner got tradies talking on the mountain
 – Mental Hunts: tackling the fear of losing your firearms license
 – What you can say when someone is struggling
 – Why mental health training should be as normal as first aid
 – The need for everyday brain maintenance—not just crisis support

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 Mates in Construction — Free, confidential support for workers in the building industry

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In this episode of Between the Walls, we talk with Nina from SP Blinds about how thoughtful design, deep product knowledge, and early collaboration lead to exceptional outcomes in window treatments. From choosing the right motorisation system to avoiding common installation mistakes, Nina shares practical advice for homeowners, designers, and builders alike.

We explore the latest in smart blind technology—including the Zigbee protocol—plus how to make retrofitting possible even in completed homes. Nina also touches on fabric choices, care tips, and an exciting new offering: printed blinds for even more customisation.

Whether you're planning a build or knee-deep in the final stages, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about what blinds can do for your space.

Key Takeaways
 – Zigbee protocol: smart blinds that integrate with Google Home, Alexa, and more
 – Battery and solar motorisation options for retrofit or off-grid setups
 – Caring for your blinds: simple habits that extend their life
 – Why early communication in the build process is essential
 – Common on-site mistakes—and how to avoid them
 – Choosing the right blinds: start by asking what the space needs to do
 – Metallic-backed and PVC-free fabrics: practical solutions for heat and lifestyle
 – Printed blinds coming soon: for a personalised design touch
 – Where to experience SP Blinds in person across NZ

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In this episode, Janey sits down with her co-hosts and co-founders of the Architecture + Design Library, Penny and Verity, for a candid, funny, and refreshingly real conversation about co-creation.

They unpack the dynamics of working closely with someone who thinks, creates, and responds differently — and why that can be your greatest strength.

From building trust and navigating creative tension, to letting go of control and staying aligned on the end goal, this episode explores what it really takes to build something meaningful together.

Whether you’re launching a project with a partner, hiring a collaborator, or simply curious about how strong creative partnerships work — this one’s for you.

🧵 In this episode:

• How Penny and Verity first met — and why not starting as friends worked in their favour
  
  
• Co-creation as a balance of dominance and surrender
  
  
• Why working with someone different can elevate your thinking
  
  
• Navigating tension without taking it personally
  
  
• Why they’ve never had a full-blown argument (and don’t expect to)
  
  
• What trust really looks like in business: action, not perfection
  
  
• Dividing roles, staying in your lane, and knowing when to let go
  
  
• The power of aligned vision over identical styles
  
  
• Designing and building in a male-dominated industry — and how they hold their own
  
  
• Common myths about female partnerships — and why they’re still going strong
  
  
• The importance of shared end goals and being flexible on the journey
  
  

💬 Reflections:

“We weren’t friends when we started — and that gave us a clean foundation.”
 “Trust is knowing it’ll get done, even if it’s not in your time frame.”
 “We debate constantly — not to argue, but to create better outcomes.”
 “You don’t have to agree on everything, but you do need to want the same result.”
 “We’ve built something based on respect — and that gives us room to be ourselves.”
 “You don’t need to think alike. You need to listen well.”

💡 Questions from AD Library Members:

• Penny: What does success look like to you?
  
  
• Verity: If you weren’t doing what you’re doing now, what path might you have taken?
  
  
• Penny: What design rule would you love to break — and why?
  
  
• Verity: What part of the industry do you feel is still stuck in the past?
  
  

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• Follow the podcast: @betweenthell_lls
  
  
• Explore the Architecture + Design Library: @adlibrary.nz
  
  
• Website: https://www.adlibrary.nz
  
  

Between the Walls is hosted by Janey — opening up warm, grounded conversations with the people reimagining how we design, build, and live in Aotearoa.
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In this episode, Janey and Verity sit down with Matt from LMA Timber, New Zealand’s leading supplier of recycled, reclaimed, and sustainably sourced hardwoods. From humble beginnings after a Grand Designs episode, LMA has grown to import a container of high-performance timber every week into Lyttelton.

They explore what makes hardwoods like Spotted Gum and Ironbark so durable, how reclaimed timber like old telephone poles are transformed into premium cladding, and why sustainability is at the heart of LMA's mission. Matt also shares jaw-dropping carbon stats, eye-opening comparisons with tropical hardwoods, and exciting innovations on the horizon.

Whether you're building new, renovating, or specifying materials, this episode offers practical insights, bold truths, and a reminder that what we build with matters more than ever.

🧵 In this episode:

• The Grand Designs story that sparked LMA Timber
• How a single power pole becomes 150m of beautiful cladding
• Reclaimed vs sustainably sourced timber — what's the difference?
• The carbon equation: hardwood vs softwood and tropical alternatives
• Why Australian forestry is setting the global gold standard
• Tracking the origin of every reclaimed pole—yes, really
• The shocking truth about Amazon deforestation and FSC certifications
• Timber density: what makes hardwoods stronger and longer-lasting
• Common misconceptions about hardwood — and what clients should know
• The importance of full-length samples and managing expectations
• Real talk on maintenance, weathering, and warranties
• New product innovations: Grey Box, finger-jointed lengths, batten boards, and more
• A stunning NZ-grown eucalyptus option you can see in the showroom
• Circular thinking: reducing waste through every step of the process
• Local projects, resources, and where to see LMA Timber in real life

💬 Reflections:

“From one reclaimed pole, we can get up to 150 lineal meters of cladding.”
 “Even after transport and processing, our hardwood is still carbon negative.”
 “The Amazon loses the equivalent of Wales in forest every single year.”
 “You can literally hold a hardwood sample in one hand, softwood in the other—and feel the difference.”
 “Clients want beauty, durability, and integrity—and that’s what this timber delivers.”

💌 Want to learn more?
 Find Matt and the team at LMA Timber:
 Showroom: 50 Anderson Road, Wānaka
 Website: www.lmatimber.co.nz
Instagram: @lmatimbernz

You can also find LMA samples at AD Library and in the Placemakers showroom, or request Dropbox links to local projects near you.

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In this episode, Janey chats with Mark from MA Building about the growing movement of passive houses—homes designed for energy efficiency, comfort, and health. They break down what a passive house really is, why these homes feel consistently warm and fresh all year round, and how they reduce energy use dramatically.

Mark shares insights on the holistic approach to building, from insulation to ventilation, and the challenges of changing old-school building mindsets. They explore the real health benefits of living in a dry, mold-free, toxin-reduced environment and how passive houses can future-proof our homes and reduce national energy demands.

Whether you’re building new or renovating, this episode offers practical tips on where to start, how to think about cost versus long-term value, and why a shift to passive houses is not just smart—it’s essential.

 In this episode:

• What makes a passive house different (five key components)
  
  
• How passive houses keep homes between 18–25°C all year round
  
  
• Health benefits: dry, mold-resistant, toxin-aware living
  
  
• Common misconceptions and resistance from builders and architects
  
  
• The energy crisis and why New Zealand needs passive homes now
  
  
• Small wins for improving air tightness and insulation on a budget
  
  
• Passive houses for renovations — it’s not just new builds
  
  
• Why fireplaces may no longer make sense in a passive house
  
  
• Real feedback from families living in passive houses—comfort and energy savings
  
  
• How passive house design adapts to different climates and sites
  
  
• The importance of energy modelling for smarter home design
  
  
• Where to find resources and experts to get started
  
  

 Reflections:

“Why wouldn’t you want to be in the most comfortable, healthy, warm environment possible?”
 “We’re always emitting heat—losing it through gaps is just wasted energy.”
 “Clients who live in passive houses report huge savings and incredible comfort.”
 “Building differently means thinking five steps ahead.”
 “This is your opportunity—find the experts and get excited about it.”

 Want to learn more?
Find Mark and the team at MA Building:

• Website: www.mabuilding.co.nz
• Instagram: @mabuilding_wanaka

Check the show notes for links, and get in touch with us to keep the conversation going.

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In this raw and deeply relatable episode, Janey is joined by Penny and Verity, co-founders of the Architecture & Design Library and your regular Between the Walls co-hosts. They unpack what it means to show up as a designer in a world that still doesn’t fully understand your value. From being dismissed on site to gifting time just to prove your worth, they speak honestly about the emotional load of interior design and the quiet resilience it demands.

They dive into perfectionism—when it serves us, when it holds us back—and share how trusting your instinct can guide your creative journey. This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt the pressure to be “ready” or “perfect” before starting something new.

🧵 In this episode:
• Holding your ground and earning respect on a job site
• The emotional and practical cost of being an interior designer
• Why undercharging hurts more than just your business
• Trusting your instinct to shape your design and business style
• Collaborating across disciplines—how respect transforms projects
• Redefining perfectionism: when to strive and when to let go

🛠 Listener Q&A:
One simple budget-friendly way to refresh a space?
🎨 Paint walls
🛋 Move furniture
🧹 Declutter and create calm

💬 Reflections:

“Respect starts with knowing your worth.”
 “Design is deeply emotional — you carry people’s homes with you.”
 “Messiness isn’t failure; sometimes it’s the only way forward.”

💌 Have a question for Penny & Verity?
Send it on Instagram @betweenthell_II. Practical, random, or curious — your question might feature in a future episode!

Between the Walls is hosted by Janey, with Penny & Verity from the Architecture & Design Library — a hub for design professionals to connect, create, and thrive.

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In this episode of Between the Walls, we sit down with Nicky from Cosentino to explore Dekton—a game-changing, ultra compact surface transforming the way we build and design. With its unmatched durability, sustainability, and versatility, Dekton is becoming a go-to choice for everything from kitchen countertops to building facades. Nikki shares the story behind the surface, what makes it so unique, and why education around proper installation is crucial. We also take a sneak peek into what’s coming next in Cosentino’s innovation pipeline.

Key Takeaways

• Dekton is made from a blend of 20 natural minerals and is non-porous, UV-resistant, and incredibly durable—making it a true lifetime product.
• It’s ideal for interior and exterior use, including facades, benchtops, and even outdoor kitchens.
• Available in New Zealand since 2015, its popularity continues to grow.
• Installation must be done by trained professionals due to its unique properties.
• Sustainability is core to Cosentino’s mission—Dekton has a low carbon footprint and is made with natural materials.
• Minimal maintenance is required—just soap and water does the job.
• Cosentino is currently developing a hybrid surface, combining the strengths of Dekton and engineered stone.
• Ongoing education for builders and designers is vital for wider adoption in the industry.
  
  

Episode Chapters

00:00 — Introduction to Dekton and Cosentino
 01:49 — The Versatility of Dekton
 03:40 — Innovative Applications of Dekton
 06:25 — Challenges and Solutions in Installation
 09:43 — Sustainability and Maintenance Benefits
 12:14 — Future Innovations and New Products

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In this rich and wonderfully honest episode, Janey is joined again by the founders of the Architecture & Design Library, Penny and Verity. Together, they peel back the layers of what it really means to be an interior designer today — and why creating your own bubble of support and collaboration might be the key to thriving in a high-pressure, high-expectation industry.

From tackling tight deadlines to footing the bill when things go wrong (even when it’s not your fault), this episode dives deep into the emotional and practical demands of design. The trio also explores the subtle art of reading clients, embracing personal design styles, and how the AD Library has grown into a place where people feel like they belong.

🧵 In this episode:

• The real job of a designer: emotional load, last-minute changes, and owning mistakes
  
  
  
• Why interior designers often carry the project across the finish line
  
  
  
• Window treatments, white kitchens, and the myths of “just picking a paint colour”
  
  
  
• Creating spaces that reflect personality — not just resale value
  
  
  
• The joy of shared spaces, dream teams, and collaborative working
  
  
  
• Why the AD Library feels like home (and not just another design showroom)
  
  
  
• A rapid-fire Q&A: go-to paint colours, least favourite trends, and dream design styles
  
  
  

🛠 Listener Q&A Highlights:

• Go-to white paint? Opanoni Half, Man Aspiring, and warm whites with depth
  
  
  
• Secretly over? Hex tiles and white kitchens
  
  
  
• Design styles? Penny = colour, texture, joy. Verity = neutral, refined, aligned
  
  
  
• Bonus: How to choose a colour palette based on someone’s outfit
  
  
  

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 Send it to us on Instagram @betweenthell_II  whether it’s cheeky, curious, or completely off the wall. Your question might feature in a future episode.

Between the Walls is hosted by Janey, in collaboration with Penny & Verity of the Architecture & Design Library — a space where design professionals gather, create, and connect.
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This episode explores Flexi House’s innovative approach to transforming home construction in Aotearoa New Zealand. Andre outlines the company’s mission to deliver high-performance homes efficiently and sustainably, using offsite construction and a decentralised manufacturing model. This conversation delves into collaboration with architects, adaptable home designs for future growth, and a commitment to reducing environmental impact through energy-efficient solutions. Andre also shares insights into the challenges and opportunities within the local construction sector, emphasising the urgent need for quality, warm homes across the country.

Key Takeaways

• Flexi House supports the wider industry in delivering high-performance homes.
• Homes are constructed using an offsite, panelised system for fast on-site assembly.
• The company maintains quality through a focus on architecturally designed builds.
• Planning is streamlined by applying learnings from previous projects.
• Nationwide collaboration with architects and builders boosts project efficiency.
• A decentralised manufacturing approach helps de-risk projects for clients.
• High-performance homes are especially vital in New Zealand’s colder regions.
• Designs offer flexibility for future expansion.
• Sustainability is central—prioritising energy efficiency and minimal environmental impact.
• Flexi House works closely with councils to navigate building consent processes.

Chapters
00:00 — Introduction to Flexi House and Its Mission
03:01 — Innovative Construction Methods and Systems
05:50 — Decentralised Manufacturing and Risk Management
09:05 — Flexibility and Future-Proofing in Home Design
11:55 — Sustainability and High-Performance Homes
15:10 — Collaboration with Architects and Building Consents
18:03 — Growth and Future Plans for Flexi House

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In this episode of Between the Walls, Penny and Verity, founders of AD Library, share their inspiring journey of creating a unique shared workspace and sample library tailored specifically for the building industry. They dive into the challenges they faced, the power of building community, and how their innovative model is reshaping collaboration and resource access for architects, designers, builders, and renovators alike. This conversation explores emerging design trends, sustainability’s growing role, and their exciting vision for AD Library’s future growth.

Key Takeaways:

• AD Library provides a shared workspace and physical sample library designed for the building industry’s needs.
• Cross-disciplinary collaboration fuels creativity and improves problem-solving.
• Hands-on access to materials empowers better, more confident decision-making.
• Communication challenges with local businesses were a key hurdle in launching AD Library.
• Community-building has become one of the most rewarding outcomes for the founders.
• Clients value the library’s efficiency and professional environment.
• Early plan reviews can significantly reduce time and costs in building projects.
• Sustainability is increasingly central to architectural and design conversations.
• AD Library plans to expand with new locations nationwide.
• Clear, effective communication remains vital for success across the industry.