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Join us for wide ranging conversations with guests from around the world as we approach every topic with Private Club management and leadership.
Who are your hosts?
Ed Chapman, CCM, PGA - a Club hospitality professional, and current CEO of Royal Auckland & Grange Golf Club in New Zealand, who has worked in four countries in three continents over the past 20 years in Clubs.
Michael Herd - one of the industry's leading recruiters, Head of International Search for Kopplin Kuebler & Wallace, and Club aficionado who has placed some of the best managers at some of the most distinguished Clubs in the world.
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#36: Navigating difficult conversations in the workplace | Spaska Ivanov
Episode 36
mercredi 31 juillet 2024 • Duration 33:13
Spaska Ivanov, Assistant General Manager at Rehoboth Beach Country Club in Delaware, USA, joins me in this episode of The Modern Club Management Podcast.
This conversation focuses on navigating challenging conversations in the workplace. We discuss how to approach them, framing the conversation, the importance of setting clear expectations, and giving permission to others to have tough conversations. It was an enjoyable discussion about a topic that all managers need to be skilled at but something which we can only become more comfortable with by doing repetitions!
I hope you enjoy his episode. If you would like to ask Spaska any questions or connect with her about this topic, she has kindly offered to share her email address.
Spaska Ivanov
Assistant General Manager
Rehoboth Beach Country Club
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#35: Michael Herd | Employer branding and EQ for leaders
Episode 35
mercredi 26 juin 2024 • Duration 49:19
Michael Herd, Head of International Search & Consulting, from Kopplin, Kuebler & Wallace joins me on this episode to discuss trends in Club management, hiring, AI, EQ, employer branding, and "The One Thing" approach to hiring.
This is a wide-ranging conversation that touches on lots of aspects of the Club industry, hiring, future trends, and how employers can create a brand to make themselves the employer of choice. What creative strategies can be used to bring talented people into your teams? Listen to find out!
I hope you enjoy his episode.
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#1: Gregg Patterson | Generating the BIG Happy
Episode 1
mercredi 30 août 2023 • Duration 49:30
Re-broadcast, season 1 episode 1! Going all the way back to the beginning as we bring you some of my favourite conversations from The Modern Club Management podcast. Watch out for some new episodes coming soon.
Gregg Patterson - generating the BIG Happy
Gregg is the President and founder of Tribal Magic; where he is an in-demand speaker around the globe. Prior to this, he was the General Manager for an incredible 34 years at The Beach Club in Santa Monica, California. He survived all that time and with a median staff tenure of an equally impressive 17 years! Which makes it safe to say that when it comes to the world of clubs, he knows a thing or two! His wide-ranging career has taken him from a gravedigger (yes, really) to Assistant GM of Bel-Air Country Club to GM of The Beach Club and now into one of the most sought-after speakers in the world.
In this episode we dive into Gregg's career; his love of stories and people; the power of curiosity and reflecting; and the main topic of the conversation...generating the BIG Happy for your staff.
Please enjoy!
Range: how generalists triumph in a specialised world by David Epstein
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#32: Dylan Lindstrom | Change management in golf clubs
Episode 32
mercredi 5 juillet 2023 • Duration 38:09
In this week's episode, I am excited to be joined by Dylan Lindstrom. Dylan is the General Manager of Royal Wellington Golf Club in New Zealand. After spending five years as Director of Golf, Dylan then moved into the GM role, which can be a challenge when moving from colleague to leader. Dylan has a great reputation as a thoughtful leader who can enact change when needed and leads by being the face of the club by spending time with members.
If you currently lead a club, or your goal is to, then this is well worth a listen. Dylan is a great leader and an all-around great person. I hope you enjoy this episode.
This episode is brought to you by Suada. Suada is a social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with a human connection. Suada is on a mission to revolutionize the digital learning space by restoring the critical element of human engagement that has gotten lost in online learning.
The technology provides everything organizations or individuals need on one single platform to achieve meaningful, long-term learning success. Suada has transformed my skills in optimal communication and influence. But don't just take my word, and the 97% 5* reviews it has had on Trustpilot for it, try it yourself. All you have to do is email david@suada.com and quote "The Modern Club Management Podcast" to claim your FREE enrolment on the reciprocity course to start your journey to becoming a more influential and persuasive communicator.
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#31: Dr Brian Hemmings | High performance psychology
Episode 31
mercredi 31 mai 2023 • Duration 38:14
In this week's episode I am excited to be joined by Dr Brian Hemmings. Brian received his PhD in sport psychology in 1998 and has been working with elite level athletes, as well as executive coaching in a multitude of sports. In this conversation we discuss how we can create safe environments for people to flourish, the benefits and drawbacks of journaling, what is high performance, and much much more.
If you're interesting in performing to a higher level and being a better version of yourself, then this is a must listen. Enjoy.
Recommended resources
Mental Toughness for Golf by Dr Brian Hemmings
Sport, Psychology and Christianity: Welfare, Performance and Consultancy
Golf Psychology: What You Can Expect and Why It Can Help You
https://www.golfpsychologycoaching.co.uk/about-us/
This episode is brought to you by Suada. Suada is the social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with human connection. Suada is on a mission to revolutionize the digital learning space through restoring the critical element of human engagement that has gotten lost in online learning.
The technology provides everything organizations or individuals need on one single platform to achieve meaningful, long-term learning success. Suada has transformed my skills in optimal communication and influence. Using these skills helped me attain a job offer as the Director of Golf at a Golf Digest Top 100 in the world ranked course. But don't just take my word, and the 97% 5* reviews it has had on Trustpilot for it, try it yourself. All you have to do is email david@suada.com and quote "The Modern Club Management Podcast" to claim your FREE enrolment on to the reciprocity course to start your journey to become a more influential and persuasive communicator.
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#30: Monique Landman | Amygdala Hijack and Dealing with Cynics
Episode 30
mercredi 17 mai 2023 • Duration 30:19
In today's episode I am rejoined by Monique Landman, the Chief Empathy Officer and Co-founder of Unchain. After a successful corporate career in strategy and communications, Monique found her heart eight years ago and a new calling in life to bring empathetic leadership to the world so that people can lead with more humanity. It has never been more important than now to have empathy and compassion as a leader.
In this episode we discuss amygdala hijacking, how to handle this in others and how to notice it in yourself. This may help you handle those difficult interactions with have. What or who is a cynic? Are they actually the most passionate supporters of your club? And how we get them on our side and channel their passion?
I took a lot from this conversation and gave me plenty to reflect in both myself and the interactions I have.
Recommended resources
Book: Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-high-performance-podcast/id1500444735?i=1000527054404
This episode is brought to you by Suada. Suada is the social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with human connection. Suada is on a mission to revolutionize the digital learning space through restoring the critical element of human engagement that has gotten lost in online learning.
The technology provides everything organizations or individuals need on one single platform to achieve meaningful, long-term learning success. Suada has transformed my skills in optimal communication and influence. Using these skills helped me attain a job offer as the Director of Golf at a Golf Digest Top 100 in the world ranked course. But don't just take my word, and the 97% 5* reviews it has had on Trustpilot for it, try it yourself. All you have to do is email david@suada.com and quote "The Modern Club Management Podcast" to claim your FREE enrolment on to the reciprocity course to start your journey to become a more influential and persuasive communicator.
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#29: David Shepherd | Developing employees
Episode 29
mercredi 3 mai 2023 • Duration 42:55
This week I am joined by David Shepherd. David has been the CEO of The Scandinavian in Copenhagen, Denmark since 2016. a 36-hole facility which has recently been voted as having the number 1 and 2 courses in Denmark. Prior to this David spent over 8 years in the Algarve at Monte Rei Golf and Country Club as Director of Golf which followed on from a successful time at The Belfry Golf Resort as Golf Operations Manager. It's safe to say that David as worked at some of the best clubs in Europe and has a reputation himself to match.
I am excited to have David join me as we discuss how he approaches developing his employees. David exemplifies a modern approach to this as he sees the employee as a whole; both the person at home and the member of the team at work. From enabling one of his greenkeeping team to take 6 weeks off to compete in a race across the Atlantic Ocean to his own trips to visit other top courses around the world David takes a proactive approach to development.
I hope you enjoy this conversation.
This episode is brought to you by Suada. Suada (https://www.suada.com/) is the social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with human connection. Suada is on a mission to revolutionize the digital learning space through restoring the critical element of human engagement that has gotten lost in online learning.
The technology provides everything organizations or individuals need on one single platform to achieve meaningful, long-term learning success. Suada has transformed my skills in optimal communication and influence. Using these skills has helped me attain multiple interviews and job offers at some of the best golf clubs in the world. But don't just take my word, and the 97% 5* reviews it has had on Trustpilot for it, try it yourself. All you have to do is email david@suada.com and quote "The Modern Club Management Podcast" to claim your FREE enrolment on to the reciprocity course to start your journey to become a more influential and persuasive communicator.
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#27: Phoebe Torrance | Getting women into golf
Episode 27
mercredi 8 février 2023 • Duration 29:33
Today I am speaking with Phoebe Torrance. Phoebe is the Women's Golf and Development Manager at The Metropolitan Golf Club in Melbourne, Australia.
This was a super interesting conversation which gave me some ideas of tactics to implement to make golf clubs more inclusive and welcoming to get more women into golf. It can be a tricky proposition running coaching programmes to bring new members into private members clubs but Phoebe has done a fantastic job and there are lots of ideas that can help clubs attract a more diverse group of members to join their clubs.
Thoughts and reflections
- Golf clubs are intimidating places for people to arrive at for the first time. Clear signage and great instructions are very important to make people feel comfortable and welcome.
- Can coaching programmes act as a "trial" for membership for people who are unsure on being able to commit the financial sums required to join great golf clubs. This can be a difficult decision to make when you are new to the game and have other life commitments.
- Have a single point of contact that participants can reach out to with questions.
This episode is brought to you by Suada. Suada (https://www.suada.com/) is the social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with human connection. Suada is on a mission to revolutionize the digital learning space through restoring the critical element of human engagement that has gotten lost in online learning.
The technology provides everything organizations or individuals need on one single platform to achieve meaningful, long-term learning success. Suada has transformed my skills in optimal communication and influence. Using these skills has helped me attain multiple interviews and job offers at some of the best golf clubs in the world. But don't just take my word, and the 97% 5* reviews it has had on Trustpilot for it, try it yourself. All you have to do is email david@suada.com and quote "The Modern Club Management Podcast" to claim your FREE enrolment on to the reciprocity course to start your journey to become a more influential and persuasive communicator.
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#25: Kari Haug | Making golf courses more enjoyable for women and slower swing speed golfers
Episode 25
jeudi 12 janvier 2023 • Duration 46:40
Today I am speaking with Kari Haug, http://karihaug.com/. Kari is the owner and lead golf course architect at Kari Howg Planning & Design, Inc., a golf course architecture company that focuses on sustainable and eco-sensitive golf course design. Kari is a member of the European Institute of Golf Course Architects (EIGCA), and one of the very few female golf course architects in the world. She is committed to eco-sensitive and sustainable golf course design, and the improvement of course playability for women and seniors. A competitive amateur and former collegiate golfer, Kari is able to envision sound golf strategy from tee to green. Using CAD technology and other design rendering techniques, Kari is able to make drafted designs come to life for a memorable golf experience.
I'm excited to have Kari join me for a discussion around her sustainability model and Playable Pathways, to see how we can make golf courses more enjoyable for female golfers, and slower swing speed golfers in general, to play which is a crucial part of engaging them and keeping them as active golfers.
3 Things to think about while you listen
- Are the holes on your course friendly for the slower speed golfers while still providing a challenge to the high speed players?
- What are some simple changes you can make to tee locations to make certain holes easier?
- Is your entire greens or course committee made up of low handicap male golfers? How representative of your membership is this?
This episode is brought to you by Suada. Suada (https://www.suada.com/) is the social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with human connection. Suada is on a mission to revolutionize the digital learning space through restoring the critical element of human engagement that has gotten lost in online learning.
The technology provides everything organizations or individuals need on one single platform to achieve meaningful, long-term learning success. Suada has transformed my skills in optimal communication and influence. Using these skills helped me attain a job offer as the Director of Golf at a Golf Digest Top 100 in the world ranked course. But don't just take my word, and the 97% 5* reviews it has had on Trustpilot for it, try it yourself. All you have to do is email david@suada.com and quote "The Modern Club Management Podcast" to claim your FREE enrolment on to the reciprocity course to start your journey to become a more influential and persuasive communicator.
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#24: Jules Murray | Unconscious bias, diversity and misogyny in clubs
Episode 24
jeudi 5 janvier 2023 • Duration 43:17
Welcome to Season 2 of the Modern Club Management Podcast. This season's theme is all around diversity in clubs. We'll be speaking with a diverse group of people from within the industry about their experiences, what we as an industry can do better to encourage diversity, how we can design golf courses to be more inclusive, why diversity of thought is so powerful, and much more. I hope you enjoy these conversations as much as I did. Listen to these with an open mind and be willing to have your current approach and thinking challenged.
We start off season 2 with Jules Murray. Jules started her career in sales and business development before moving into training and consultancy. In 2006 Jules founded Spider on the Wall Ltd which offers managerial training, soft skills, and mystery shopping services. A regular on the CMAE MDP as a presenter, Jules is well known and liked within the club community and brings a contagious energy to all of her sessions. Her passion lies in designing and delivering fun, interactive and experiential training courses; which having had the good fortune in being in some of her sessions she definitely delivers this in spades.
Jules' low hanging fruit to increase diversity
- Job adverts: de-bias the wording in your job adverts (website such as http://gender-decoder.katmatfield.com/ can be used to check your wording)
- CV selecting: avoid looking at the name, age, and gender. Focus on the skills and talents they could bring to the job. "Youth is no guarantee of creativity." Author unknown.
- Get more used to saying 'oh well' or 'so what': if they have a "silly" email address...so what? Does this mean they are unsuitable for the job?
- Interview with a diverse colleague who is completely different to you: e.g. if you're a 50 year old man interview candidates with a 20 year old female colleague. Use objective criteria and ask all candidates the same questions and look for areas of divergence in how you each rated them.
- Performance reviews: research shows that women are more likely to underrate themselves and men to overrate themselves. Plus in some cultures "boasting" can be seen negatively, therefore people may underrate themselves to appear humble.
- Shadow board: have a board full of younger members to gain diverse ideas. They can bring new ideas and creativity to old problems.
Links and resources from the episode
What Works by Professor Iris Bohnet
Rebel Ideas by Matthew Syed
This episode is brought to you by Suada. Suada (https://www.suada.com/) is the social learning platform that delivers high-quality blended learning with human connection. Suada is on a mission to revolutionize the digital learning space through restoring the critical element of human engagement that has gotten lost in online learning.
The technology provides everything organizations or individuals need on one single platform to achieve meaningful, long-term learning success. Suada has transformed my skills in optimal communication and influence. Using these skills helped me attain a job offer as the Director of Golf at a Golf Digest Top 100 in the world ranked course. But don't just take my word, and the 97% 5* reviews it has had on Trustpilot for it, try it yourself. All you have to do is email david@suada.com and quote "The Modern Club Management Podcast" to claim your FREE enrolment on to the reciprocity course to start your journey to become a more influential and persuasive communicator.
If you enjoy listening then please join your peers by subscribing through your favourite podcast listening app and leave a review to help others with similar interests find this show more easily.
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