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Conscious Leader Deb Katz- Winning without negative reactivity

Season 1 · Episode 40

Thursday, September 19, 2024 • Duration 59:23

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In 2015, Fairfax criminal lawyer Jon Katz finished court earlier than expected, and beelined to the Mindful Leadership conference in Crystal City, Virginia, in part to meet speaker Roshi Joan Halifax. Snagging a ticket to this soldout event, Jon met Roshi Joan, and also sat mesmerized by speaker Jim Dethmer's (co-founder of the Conscious Leadership Group) talk about conscious leadership, and about the difference between leading from above the line (where one is open, curious, and not attacking) versus from below the line. This conscious leadership approach is fully addressed in The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership, by Jim Dethmer, Diana Chapman, and Kaley Warner Klemp.

The challenges abound for criminal defense lawyers and their clients to get sidetracked by actually or apparently slinged mud, heartlessness, dehumanization efforts, underhandedness and prevarication from various quarters in the courthouse and beyond. Getting angry and misdirected is weakening. Smiling in the face of proverbial flying vomit and diarrhea -- when knowing the possibilities of sweet success that may be right around the corner -- is the powerful way to proceed.

Conscious Leadership's Deb Katz pulls no punches in addressing how she transitioned from years of proceeding as an unconscious leader to a conscious one. She talks about how it is possible to say f--k you from above the line, and how sweetness does not automatically put one above the line. Deb addresses how Conscious Leadership draws on numerous pre-existing approaches to leading in a beneficial way. She and Jon both benefit from the teachings and practices of Ho'oponopono, which is featured on a previous Beat The Prosecution podcast episode.

This conversation between Jon Katz and Deb Katz (same last name, but no close family connection) dives deep into transitioning into the conscious leadership approach.

The universal and Apple podcasts URL for this episode are at https://podcast.beattheprosecution.com/2293867/episodes/15777966

and https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675?i=1000669998168

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text).

If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675

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Defending activists who broadcast their actions- Activists' lawyer Mark Goldstone

Season 1 · Episode 39

Friday, September 13, 2024 • Duration 01:03:03

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Criminal defense usually includes keeping the burden with the prosecution to attempt to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. That approach can be turned upside down with activists who broadcast their actions loudly and clearly. Fairfax criminal lawyer Jonathan Katz first faced that situation when teaming with Ramsey Clark to defend four Plowshares activists who hammered on warplanes outfitted to fire depleted uranium missiles. The four defendants' openness about their actions made winning the destruction of property count a challenge to win at their jury trial, while pretrial, Jon still convinced the trial judge to dismiss the sabotage and sabotage conspiracy counts.

Early in his criminal defense career, Jon Katz heard Gerald Lefcourt tell about how his client Abby Hoffman sought for Lefcourt to keep him out of jail so that he could pursue his activism. Jon wondered if he had missed the boat for defending activists until he was asked to defend the Plowshares. Ramsey Clark told Jon that the opportunities to defend activists are many, at least when doing so pro bono. When Jon asked about a lawyer(s) to turn to for suggestions for defending activists, Mark Goldstone's name immediately came up. Mark was delighted when he received a court appointment for an activist protesting in the Capitol against Ronald Reagan's policies in supporting anti-communist combatants in Nicaragua, and was even more delighted when the lawyers for the 130 other defendants withdrew their representation, leaving those defendants with Mark.

When Jon met Mark, Mark led the demonstrations committee of the local National Lawyers Guild, which Jon Katz first joined because of its work for criminal defendants and immigrants, and its stand for racial justice and gender equality, but left several years later when the group became too doctrinaire, and even issued a call to support Muntadhar al-Zaid -- who in 2008 threw his shoes at George W. Bush in Iraq -- and called to donate shoes for needy people, with not a peep against violence that was part of the shoe throwing. Over the decades, Mark has become a go-to lawyer for political activists -- including supporting their First Amendment free expression rights -- and for judges seeking criminal defense lawyers for appointments for such defense. Mark is a devoted, principled and caring person and attorney. Jon has great respect for him.

Civil liberties protector Louis Sirkin- Winning in court with relentlessness and caring on the side of the angels

Season 1 · Episode 30

Tuesday, July 2, 2024 • Duration 48:49

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Criminal defense and First Amendment defense lawyer Louis Sirkin has since the 1960's been at the forefront of obscenity defense, criminal defense and First Amendment defense, often crisscrossing the nation in his battles for our civil liberties. When Jon Katz first met Louie in 1999, he was struck by Louie's powerfully persuasive approach that is both without ego and selfless, and his generosity in sharing his knowledge and experience with his fellow members of the First Amendment Lawyers Association, which Louie previously led as its president.

Louis Sirkin's clients have included Larry Flynt and many other members of the adult entertainment world, Jerry Springer when on the Cincinnati city council and probed in a massage parlor matter, a museum director prosecuted for obscenity for displaying Robert Mapplethorpe's art in 1989 (with a win for the side of right), animal rights activists, and Black Lives Matter activists.

Louie at once is uncompromisingly relentless and a team player with co-counsel, and a true gentleman in pushing for the best possible results for his clients. Read more about Louie at https://www.santenhughes.com/lawyers/h-louis-sirkin

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text).

If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675

Combat veteran turned Zen Buddhist monk Claude AnShin Thomas- Winning through being at peace with our unpeacefulness:

Season 1 · Episode 29

Thursday, June 27, 2024 • Duration 47:07

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What do engaging with our suffering, breaking from addiction, and knowing our true nature have to do with beating the prosecution? Join Jon's riveting talk with Claude AnShin Thomas who has travelled the path between fighting in the thick of the Vietnam war to now being a warrior for peace and for helping others, including veterans. Claude ultimately became a mendicant Soto Zen Buddhist monk, meeting people "at the point of their humanity", as Claude says. After leaving Vietnam, Brother Claude pickled himself in drugs, alcohol and sex. Learn how he successfully ended drug and alcohol use with the help of a treatment program, how he became a monk, and how he travels to schools, prisons, war zones, and so many other places where he is invited, wanting to meet with a cross section of people there.

Fairfax, Northern Virginia criminal defense / DUI lawyer Jon Katz first met Claude around 2005, when Claude completely revealed the inner turmoil he underwent during and after his fighting in Vietnam, his life committed to service to others, and about living in peace with unpeacefulness. It is not a stretch to say that the courthouse is full of turmoil, and also of possibilities, starting with the criminal defense lawyer and defendant quieting their minds, being in the present, and, again, living in peace with unpeacefulness.

If you like what you hear on this Beat the Prosecution episode number 28, please visit Claude's organization's website Zaltho.org, and read and share his essential autobiography At Hell's Gate- A Soldier's Journey from War to Peace, and read his other books On the Edges of Peace, and Bringing Meditation to Life. Your donations at https://www.zaltho.org/donation-causes can support the Zaltho Foundation generally, Veterans' Pet Health Care, and Zaltho's Solar Project.

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at . For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text). If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at

Lacross lessons for winning in court- Championship coach Robert Streeten

Season 1 · Episode 28

Friday, June 21, 2024 • Duration 40:56

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What do lacrosse, being self-demanding, and being ever vigilant have to do with beating the prosecution? Join us as championship lacrosse coach Bob Streeten talks with his former summer camper and now-Fairfax, Northern Virginia criminal defense and DUI lawyer Jon Katz about there being no replacement for preparation, hard work, excellent planning and strategy, and being self demanding for winning, whether in court, the playing field or life. Check out Bob's lengthy 2022 sports interview at https://www.mytwintiers.com/sports/legends-of-the-twin-tiers-bob-streeten.

As the foregoing interview's liner notes aptly underline: "No man defines the sport of lacrosse in the region more than Corning’s Bob Streeten."

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text).

If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675

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Public Defenders Supreme Shawn Stout and Shalev Ben-Avraham- Beating the Prosecution Like a Warrior

Season 1 · Episode 26

Tuesday, June 4, 2024 • Duration 01:05:19

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What do Gideon, Hawkeye and being a warrior have to do with beating the prosecution? Join us as Virginia criminal defense and DUI lawyer Jon Katz (who started his criminal defense career as a public defender lawyer) talks with Northern Virginia public defender lawyers Shawn Stout and Shalev Ben-Avraham. Jon has deep respect and appreciation for both of these lawyers, who have been selfless in talking with Jon about challenging aspects of his cases and about defending all of our clients. Shawn has been involved in reforming the criminal justice system to the benefit of all defendants. Shalev is a fellow graduate of the multi-week Trial Lawyers College, and defended capital defendants before Virginia abolished state-sponsored killings. You will not want to miss this episode.

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text).

If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675

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Taijiquan martial arts master Julian Chu- Winning by strengthening our root and internal compass

Season 1 · Episode 25

Thursday, May 30, 2024 • Duration 01:04:19

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Why does Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz's law firm symbol incorporate the taiji / yin yang / supreme ultimate symbol with the scales of justice? Because powerful balance and constant internal strengthening is needed to beat the disharmony of a prosecution, and because for decades Jon has incorporated his taijiquan / t'ai chi ch'uan martial art (the Yang style 37-posture short form modified by megaster Professor Cheng Man Ch'ing /CMC ) into his pursuing the best defense. Jon writes here about applying taijiquan and other vital internal practices to defending his clients.

Our guest for this episode is Jon Katz's amazing taijiquan teacher and author T. Julian Chu, whose teacher Benjamin Pang Jeng Lo was a senior student of Professor Cheng.

Julian recommends the following website for learning more about taijiquan, where several of his articles are included https://taijidc.wordpress.com

If you wish to study taijquan, Julian recommends his senior students at Wei Hwa Chinese School in Fairfax County (https://www.weihwa.org), and Li Ming Chinese Academy in the Capital Beltway area (http://li-ming.org/en/) . His students and others practice taijiquan every summer Sunday at 10:00 a.m. at the Tai Chi Court in Cabin John Regional Park, Potomac, Maryland.

Here are three recent video clips showing Julian's mastery of taijiquan sparring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-GB7hqJ14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zK0q0dXRVU Here is Julian's short biography and sample list of his published articles:

Winning by Adjusting to the Courthouse Battlefield: Lessons from Donald Trump's Trial on What to Do and Not to Do

Season 1 · Episode 24

Friday, May 24, 2024 • Duration 49:00

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What do keeping composure, staying off the witness stand, and grilling an admitted liar have to do with beating the prosecution? Join Fairfax, Northern Virginia criminal and DUI defense lawyer Jon Katz as he discusses lessons from the current prosecution against Donald Trump for what you and your attorney should and should not do on the path to obtaining as much justice as possible for you at trial.

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text).

If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675

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A Winning Lyon's Roar- Powerhouse Lawyer Andrea Lyon on Beating the Toughest Prosecutions

Season 1 · Episode 23

Monday, May 13, 2024 • Duration 57:12

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What do hearts, dragons, and a defender general have to do with beating the prosecution? Join us as Fairfax, Virginia criminal defense and DUI lawyer Jon Katz talks with powerhouse, trailblazing criminal defense attorney, teacher, and reformer Andrea Lyon on how she effectively and persuasively fights like hell for her clients. Jon first heard Andrea speak near the start of his criminal defense career, and ever since has been a huge fan, inspired by her profound humanity, dedication, and success. Read Andrea's essential autobiography Angel of Death Row, and her manifesto Fixing Legal Injustice in America: The Case for a Defender General of the United States.

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text).

If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675

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Winning as immigrants in criminal court. Jon Katz's former law partner Jay Marks

Season 1 · Episode 22

Wednesday, May 8, 2024 • Duration 57:30

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What do hugging, speaking multiple languages, and lifting up legal clients have to do with beating the prosecution? Listen to Fairfax, Northern Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz and his former decade-long law partner Jay Marks addressing the power of our joining forces together as people's lawyers, and continuing as people's lawyers. We talk about "crimmigration" -- reducing adverse immigration exposure from criminal prosecutions (starting from the ideal of winning in the first place) -- and about the greatness of the immigrant community and the injustice when anyone tries to marginalize them. "You can't judge a person by the worst day in their life," wisely repeats Jay. The years-long positive energy between Jay and Jon may be infectious for you.

This podcast with Fairfax, Virginia criminal / DUI lawyer Jon Katz is playable on all devices at podcast.BeatTheProsecution.com. For more information, visit https://KatzJustice.com or contact us at info@KatzJustice.com, 703-383-1100 (calling), or 571-406-7268 (text).

If you like what you hear on our Beat the Prosecution podcast, please take a moment to post a review at our Apple podcasts page (with stars only, or else also with a comment) at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beat-the-prosecution/id1721413675

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