Today, we bring you the final episode of the first season of Backend Banter! It’s a wrap up for now. With 69 episodes behind us, we want to tell you the story of Boot Dev and how far we’ve come from our beginnings, and for that, we bring Allan Lires, the first official employee and the second person to work on our platform!

We’re going to cover our entire timeline, achievements, hardships, how Lane and Allan were able to go all-in on building Boot Dev and our visions and plans for the future.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Allan's X/Twitter: https://x.com/AllanLires

Boot.Dev Discord: https://discord.com/invite/EEkFwbv

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:01 Last episode of Season 1 of Backend Banter

01:45 Boot.dev Story and what this episode will be about

02:26 How and when Allan was hired to work at Boot.dev

05:33 Timeline on Boot.dev

08:53 Guessing game

10:34 The Rebranding Process

12:43 Going Full-time

14:56 What was the curriculum in the beginning?

18:38 What was the original vision for Boot.dev

19:17 Being honest about how long it'll take you to learn to code

22:48 Setting expectations for difficulty

29:55 On learning the fundamentals

34:42 The Long Term vision of Boot.dev

41:30 Old gamification features and why we changed them

50:26 The Track is Never Complete

55:01 We cover a lot of the basics that traditional colleges don't cover

01:00:06 Why do we want to remove JavaScript from the learning course

01:06:12 Million Lessons Completed in a single month

01:08:28 You got to be comfortable being uncomfortable

01:13:25 Where to find Allan

Today we welcome Chuck Carpenter aka Charles The 3rd, co-host at Whiskey Web and Whatnot.

As two content creators in the tech scene, we discuss if and how celebrity developers and tech influencers are a good thing for the community, how we should be careful when choosing technologies based on influencers’ opinions, why so many people nowadays want to speedrun their whole career and how that could be self-sabotage, and a lot more!

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Whiskey Web and Whatnot: https://whiskey.fm/

Charles' X/Twitter: https://x.com/charleswthe3rd

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:27 Does Charles listen to his own podcast episodes?

03:33 Are celebrity developers a good thing?

09:11 Podcasts are usually centered around a business

10:06 We are essentially entertainers

14:04 Tech choices being influenced by creators

17:37 Why ThePrimeagen stood out from other tech influencers

20:26 Career speedrunning

23:44 The biggest miss when starting something

24:51 What is wrong with Full-Stack application frameworks?

29:03 How Frankenstein is the Boot.dev web application stack

37:41 Rolling your own stuff vs using a provider

46:01 It's easy to screw up your architecture

50:53 What is Charles building with in 2024 and what is his preferred stack

56:39 Does it seem like people don't talk about security anymore?

01:00:30 Accessibility

01:02:02 The amount of people that are "kinda" interested in cybersecurity

01:11:03 Have some patience

01:11:37 Where to find Charles

In today's episode, we bring back James Q Quick. Last time we talked about his best tips to land your first ever job as a developer. Today we talk about James' new startup and how he manages all his new tech adventures with being a parent and also provides some helpful insight as to why having an audience and personal connections in the industry is beneficial - but not strictly necessary to succeed.

We also talk about AWS, abstraction and the current (healing) state of layoffs, so don't lose hope if you're demotivated in your job search.

Learn back-end development - https://www.boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Deals for Devs: https://www.dealsfordevs.com/

James' Website: https://www.jamesqquick.com/

James' Twitter: https://x.com/jamesqquick

James' Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@JamesQQuick

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:55 On being a parent

04:28 Idiocracy

05:47 Deals for Devs

10:09 Comparison with Dixie Direct

12:22 How do you quantify the really high quality deals

15:57 The challenge with a two-sided marketplace

22:28 Doing stuff manually is actually pretty good

25:38 Having a personal connection helps A LOT

29:12 Zeta

34:05 The Web is being modeled on AWS

36:38 You shouldn't be learning one JavaScript framework

38:30 Know how to answer a question if you don't know the technology

41:43 When you learn to code, how much layers of abstraction you should go?

43:45 Should passion be required for a job in tech?

49:02 The state of layoffs

52:29 The ease of finding a job after a layoff when you're highly talented

55:58 Do you need an audience to find a job easily?

58:40 Developers of the world - Interviews in person

01:02:12 Where to find James

In today's episode, we bring back BadCop! Since last episode, she joined Boot.dev's team and is now writing courses with us!

Today we will be discussing the approaches to writing good educational material, Bash (of course, duh), working outside cloud solutions, SSH, NAS systems, workflows with different editors and cultural shifts in different areas of programming. Enjoy!

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

BadCop's Twitter: https://x.com/badcop_

BadCop's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/badcop_

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:58 BadCop Joined the Boot.dev Team!

01:15 Writing courses is harder than it looks

03:45 Lane's approach to writing courses

05:21 What's the hardest part of writing a course for BadCop?

09:01 On writing Bash

13:19 How useful is it to know how to work outside the cloud solutions?

17:28 SSHing into the home network

20:49 What is a NAS?

23:26 Using VTuber Software off the shelf

25:55 When did BadCop start using NeoVim?

29:41 IRC talk

33:20 Cultural shift in the programming space

38:05 Getter and Setter functions

42:35 People are overusing the idea of encapsulation

48:41 Dependency Inversion Principle

51:11 The VTuber Project

52:58 Where to find BadCop

In today's episode, we welcome Ken Wheeler, a dope programmer, who creates cool projects and just gives them away for free, helping thousands of developers worldwide, a based beatmaker and just in general a cool person.

In this episode, we talk about AI, React, OCaml, why stressing over specific frameworks is not worth it, advice for new developers, HTMX, SPA's and a LOT of other stuff, so stay tuned!

Ken's X/Twitter: https://x.com/ken_wheeler

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

00:25 Do you hate AI?

02:10 How diffusion works

17:47 First impressions with writing Go

18:29 Where's the line between Backend Development and DevOps

24:11 Does anyone version their REST?

24:57 urql

25:38 Offloading the data work to the other side

29:55 Wordpress is 80% of the websites

31:15 HTMX

33:12 Single Page Apps

34:02 Is React still your go-to

36:38 Is it hard to switch from React to Vue?

39:37 Picking a first language to learn

40:43 OCaml

43:12 HEX and raw Binary Data

44:42 Bluetooth powered crossbow

52:20 What got Ken into doing talks

58:45 Where to find Ken

In today's episode, we welcome Casey Muratori, a seasoned programmer who specializes in game engine research and development who is currently working on a narrative game about organized crime in the 1930s in New York.

And oh boy, is this episode packed with valuable knowledge!

In this talk, we go over the differences between different job positions in the Game Development Industry and how it compares to the Web Development arena, as well as dive deep on the notions of technical knowledge, is it all useful or is some of it just a waste of time? We talk about bloated systems, how we already surpassed the tipping point of code written, so that new exploits will be appearing indefinitely. Casey gives us his opinions on what a programmer should ABSOLUTELY know to be the best at what they do, and a lot of other exciting and interesting topics.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Computer, Enhance!: https://www.computerenhance.com/

Casey's Twitter/X: https://x.com/cmuratori

Timestamps:

00:28 Casey's Background

02:43 Game Developer vs Game Designer

09:08 What are the different ways people should think about careers that exist for game developers

14:33 Is all knowledge useful or is some of it a waste of time?

16:16 Computer, Enhance! and Casey's teaching methodologies

24:00 Devil's advocate about understanding at the hardware level

29:48 Software is getting slower, bloatier and less performant

35:42 What is the primary reason behind the rise of slow software

38:20 Top 3 concepts that people SHOULD know

43:43 Do you need to know both ARM and x86?

57:03 30 million line problem

01:08:29 Is there any way to mitigate these types of problems?

01:13:39 Where to find Casey

01:14:50 Which was the best part of Twin Peaks

In today’s episode, we bring AnthonyGG, a highly requested guest, a Go developer with over a decade of experience with Golang and a fellow content creator.

This episode will be all around Web Development with Go - from how Anthony started writing code with Go and why he chose this language, to tooling, migrations, integrations with databases, generics, Go job interviews and much, much more!

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player:

https://www.backendbanter.fm

Anthony's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@anthonygg_

Anthony's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theanthonygg

Anthony's Twitter/X: https://x.com/anthdm

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

00:29 Anthony's backstory, how he learned to code and started writing code professionally

08:55 Going from go migrate to goose

13:20 What does Anthony use in tandem with goose/go migrate to interact with databases

14:46 Bun vs gorm vs sqlc

18:26 The way boot.dev is running goose at the moment

20:14 Problems with migration tools

23:47 Should HTTP handlers explicitly return an error?

29:05 Building your own middleware and helper functions

36:00 Generics

38:09 How often does AnthonyGG use a context package and for what purposes

44:57 Golang job interviews

46:12 Developer experience with working with Go on Web Applications

54:51 You still need community-built tools

57:08 Where to find Anthony

Today, we bring back a dear guest and friend of the podcast, ThePrimeagen! Now Ex-Netflix engineer who turned his full focus to content creation surrounding software engineering and tech.

In today's episode, we talk about his new Git course on boot.dev, where he shares motivations on why he decided to write a course on Git, how he incorporates it into his workflow and shares some hot takes regarding today's tech education landscape, his opinion on bootcamps, colleges, and what his ideal way of teaching computer science is.

To finish off, he shares some of his exciting new ventures, namely a coffee shop and a Doom game which you can play through twitch chat!

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player:

https://www.backendbanter.fm

ThePrimeagen's Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen

ThePrimeagen's other Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen

ThePrimeagen's Twitter: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen

Terminal Coffee Shop: https://www.terminal.shop/

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

00:27 Why teach about Git?

02:55 Was Prime taught Git?

04:50 add files individually or git add .

07:22 Hot take about git in school

10:27 What should you learn in school in the first place?

11:34 Where did school come from?

16:42 You can't become a software engineer in 3 months

19:45 Contents of Part 1 and what will Part 2 of the Git course be about

22:58 Rebase vs Merge and Prime's current workflow

24:22 Why you shouldn't merge

29:10 A lot of the times, people just don't know the tools

32:29 The advantage of rebase

34:03 Rewriting history criticism

36:30 Prime's terminal coffee shop

44:22 Doom in the terminal?

54:08 Is the bandwidth the problem with the Doom game?

55:27 Ideas for the controls for Doom

58:57 Where to find Prime

In today's episode, we welcome Low Level Learning, a fellow programmer and content creator. With over 500k subscribers and his own course where he teaches low level programming topics, he came on the podcast to talk about what he knows most: C, low level concepts, AI, as well as share some of his own developer experiences and preferences that he garnered over the years.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Low Level Learning’s Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/LowLevelTweets

Low Level Learning's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/lowlevellearning

Low Level Learning's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/LowLevelLearning

Low Level Academy: https://lowlevel.academy/

Timestmaps:

00:47 Who is Low Level Learning?

01:34 C is a High Level Language

02:47 Is C lower level than Rust or Zig?

04:33 Front-end vs Back-end, which is harder?

06:34 The Boot.dev stack

07:11 The Low Level Academy stack

07:59 Low Level Academy

09:56 Project-based learning

12:18 sqlc

14:44 How do you debug C?

17:26 Fuzzing Harness vs Unit Testing

22:28 Favorite Feature of C

23:45 If you could change one thing in C, what would it be?

26:53 Where do C programmers work?

29:16 The White House and Garbage Collectors

31:19 What is a side-channel attack?

33:56 Power side-channel attack

35:41 Side-channel attack on boot.dev

37:08 What tooling does Low Level Learning use to write C?

43:59 How do you deal with the lack of a package manager?

48:12 Opinion on statically compiled and dynamic libraries

50:36 Where to find Low Level Learning

In today’s episode, we welcome Natalie Pistunovich, host of the Go Time podcast, OpenAI Ambassador and Google Developer Expert for Go. She advises companies on how to make the most of AI and adopt it properly and also teaches the Cloud and Infrastructure course for B.Sc. students at the HTW Berlin.

In this episode, we talk all about AI driven development and how is Go one of the best languages suited for code generation, the future of LLM’s and how can we boost the average developer’s job with AI, creating custom GPT’s, changes in the area of AI Chips, and a lot of other fascinating topics.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm Natalie's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/nataliepis

Timestamps:

00:47 Who is Low Level Learning?

01:34 C is a High Level Language

02:47 Is C lower level than Rust or Zig?

04:33 Front-end vs Back-end, which is harder?

06:34 The Boot.dev stack

07:11 The Low Level Academy stack

07:59 Low Level Academy

09:56 Project-based learning

12:18 sqlc

14:44 How do you debug C?

17:26 Fuzzing Harness vs Unit Testing

22:28 Favorite Feature of C

23:45 If you could change one thing in C, what would it be?

26:53 Where do C programmers work?

29:16 The White House and Garbage Collectors

31:19 What is a side-channel attack?

33:56 Power side-channel attack

35:41 Side-channel attack on boot.dev

37:08 What tooling does Low Level Learning use to write C?

43:59 How do you deal with the lack of a package manager?

48:12 Opinion on statically compiled and dynamic libraries

50:36 Where to find Low Level Learning

In today’s episode, we bring fellow developer and tech content creator NeetCode, to talk about his obstacles and observations on his path in becoming a FAANG engineer, where he shares his struggles and how he started both his tech career and content creation journeys.

Among a variety of other topics, NeetCode shares his advice for anyone that’s open to receiving it, and explains the pros and cons of grinding LeetCode, if it is even worth doing it or not, while also dabbling into why networking is somewhat important and highlights the importance of standing out in today’s job market environment.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm Neetcode's Website: https://neetcode.io/

Neetcode's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/neetcode

Neetcode's Twitter: https://twitter.com/neetcode1

Neetcode's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/navdeep-singh-3aaa14161/

Timestamps:

00:46 Who is NeetCode and a bit of his background
02:24 Why did NeetCode start a YouTube Channel?
03:40 People don't talk about where they mess up at these big companies
04:47 Portray yourself in the best possible light at interviews
07:37 Why LeetCode?
08:44 Why Grinding LeetCode is not the smartest choice
11:31 Why LeetCode is still important if your goal is a FAANG-level company
14:47 What would be the approach for someone with CS-degree knowledge that wants to get into Google in 2024/2025
17:26 How to know if you're having trouble getting or passing interviews?
19:01 You can put projects on a resume, not LeetCode solutions
21:47 Tutorial Hell
24:47 You have to be able to prove your knowledge, just putting it on the resume isn't enough
29:20 You don't have to do content creation to get a developer job
30:29 Social Media works well for networking
33:03 NeetCode philosophy
37:57 Monetizing education content
42:17 How to level up the product experience
44:04 Amazon vs Google's culture
46:24 As usual, managers don't know what they're doing a lot of the time
49:30 Managers at these companies should be technical
51:17 Difference between Engineers and other Tech Roles
55:40 Where to find NeetCode

In today’s episode, we welcome John Crickett, veteran software engineer, having worked at Staff, VP, and C-Suite positions over the years, and now focusing on helping thousands of engineers worldwide, through his coding challenges that have you building real applications, as well as helping with the soft skills through his articles and posts about software development.

Today we cover a LOT of ground where we explain exactly what a Software Architect is, discuss different leadership types, advice to get a software job, remote work, unpopular opinions on programming languages, performance and scale, and a couple other things, so stay tuned because this episode is a true fountain of knowledge.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

John Crickett's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/johncrickett

John Crickett's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johncrickett/

Coding Challenges: https://codingchallenges.fyi/

Coding Challenges on Substack: https://codingchallenges.substack.com/

Research mentioned at 27:33 : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232514133_Effect_of_self-differentiation_and_anonymity_in_group_on_deindividuation

More on the topic of Deindividuation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deindividuation#Major_empirical_discoveries

Timestamps:

00:12 Who is John Crickett
01:13 What is a Software Architect
03:04 People vs Technical Leadership
03:53 What kind of decisions does a software architect make?
04:43 Is there a lot of "Thought Leadership" involved?
05:23 Do you prefer Technical or People leadership?
07:47 How did John start his coding career?
11:39 Most people don't start working at "sexy" companies
13:58 Juggling off-topic
14:32 What are the Coding Challenges?
19:03 Remote work and downtime
22:56 The wrong culture might spoil the remote environment and people care less about the work
27:05 Anonymity turns people into assholes
29:58 Why did we have a phone call when this could've been an e-mail?
33:42 Doing LeetCode vs Building Projects
36:54 Most of the time you'll be using already existing solutions
40:05 Is there too much abstraction nowadays?
41:56 Using the Command Line is cool again!
43:44 When talking about scale, what matters most is the architecture, not the language or framework
51:30 Why just switching to a "faster" language isn't enough
53:48 Go vs Rust performance comparison
54:44 Learning how to write performant code is more important than the programming language itself
55:25 The importance of benchmarking
58:33 Where to find John

In today’s episode, we bring back Aaron Francis. If you haven’t watched our previous episode with him, he is a software developer, fellow content creator and co-founder of Try Hard Studios. In the past he’s been an accountant at a Big 4 but now he focuses on Laravel, web development and all things business and video.

This episode will step away from the usual tech focused content and we’ll talk a bit more about the business side of things, how you have to balance entertainment and education when creating courses, Aaron’s High Performance SQLite course, building a personal brand through the discomfort of centering it around yourself, how good presentation matters and how proactiveness puts you miles ahead of the majority, so stay tuned!

Learn back-end development - https://www.boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Aaron's X/Twitter: https://x.com/aarondfrancis

Aaron's Website: https://aaronfrancis.com/

High Performance SQLite: https://highperformancesqlite.com/

Screencasting: https://screencasting.com/

Mostly Technical Podcast: https://mostlytechnical.com/

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:32 Podcast listening going up when having a kid

02:25 Podcast about earning the first million

08:54 You have to choose the entertainment vs education levels

10:37 You have to shape your material to the platforms

16:40 Long hour videos vs 2 minute ones

20:16 Are the videos in the High Performance SQLite in linear order?

24:19 Figuring out the metrics

28:06 Building courses on other domains

31:46 Building brands is difficult

35:55 quick disclaimer

36:30 Personal brand vs company

37:57 Is this sellable?

40:23 Do you need an audience?

44:26 The strategy is simple but it is also hard to execute

49:31 The presentation matters a LOT

51:54 On being proactive

57:00 Where to find Aaron

In today’s episode, we bring Leandro Ostera, a seasoned software engineer, who’s currently leading the OCaml build system team, with the mission of making OCaml SaaS ready! Join us as this episode is packed with a variety of topics, where we mainly focus on the OCaml ecosystem, compare it to other languages and frameworks, but also dabble into very obscure topics such as Idris (hint: it’s a programming language), and explore concepts such as routine blocking, scheduling, types, and other issues.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Check out Riot: https://riot.ml/

Leandro's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/leostera

Leandro's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/leostera

Timestamps:

00:28 Leandro's Background
01:37 How Leandro got involved with OCaml
02:50 What the heck is Idris???
07:03 When Leandro started working with OCaml
11:34 ReasonML
15:48 The Riot Library and OCaml issues
18:00 Type Inference in OCaml
23:10 What allowed Riot to move so fast
24:17 The ecosystem of a language
28:14 Is Riot a Concurrency Library or a Web Framework?
31:01 Goroutines refresher
33:02 How Riot implements the actor-model
38:34 Cooperative Scheduling vs Preemptive Scheduling
41:30 How to fix routine blocking
43:14 What has Leandro and other contributers shipped?
46:25 How does Leandro manage his time to work on all of these projects?
49:45 Where to find Leandro

Today, we're excited to have Bashbunni join us, a software developer and fellow tech content creator currently rocking it as a DevRel at Charm, whose purpose is all about glamming up the CLI experience. In this episode, we cover a lot of ground, from diving into Charm's cool libraries and their real-world applications to chatting about the self-taught programming journey. We also touch on TikTok and addictive social media use, content creation and its intricacies, and share some insights into the world of Golang. Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm Bashbunni's Twitter: https://twitter.com/sudobunni Bashbunni's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bashbunni Bashbunni's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/bashbunni Charm: https://charm.sh/ Charm's video that Bashbunni mentioned: https://charm.sh/blog/100k/ Timestamps: 00:36 When did Bashbunni start working with Go? 02:10 School during COVID and education nowadays 04:23 Is self-taught still a viable way to learn programming? 08:50 Discipline can be learned 10:04 Why it is much harder to focus nowadays? 11:08 TikTok and Addictive Social Media Use 14:31 What kind of media does BashBunni consume, if not short-form content 18:14 Is creating content for Charm a bit part of the job? 21:05 On Tech content creators being technical 24:41 Quality vs Quantity 25:31 What is Charm? 29:09 Why Golang is the best language for CLI Applications 32:52 US vs Canadian Accents 34:05 Melt - One of Charm's Libraries 36:24 Soft serve - Self hostable git server 37:39 VHS - Terminal GIFs as code 39:10 How many people are behind Charm? 39:17 How does Charm make money? 42:40 GUI's are bloated, Terminal is the GOAT 45:56 Bashbunni's beef with JavaScript 48:47 Where to find Bashbunni

In this episode, we host Trash Puppy, with her amazing story of how she went from Nursing to becoming a Software Engineer. Today, we talk about her story, why she chose Golang, her exciting personal projects and her experiences and advice as a self-taught developer. As Trash Puppy is accepting job offers at the moment, we also dove into the current job market and job hunting process, as it definitely isn't an easy one to navigate these days, while also touching up on her thoughts of the threats of AI. Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm Trash Puppy's Twitter: https://twitter.com/TrshPuppy Trash Puppy's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@trshpuppy Trash Puppy's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/trshpuppy Trash Puppy's Github: https://github.com/TrshPuppy Trash Puppy's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trshpuppy/ Timestamps: 00:31 How Trash Puppy went from a Nurse to a Software Engineer 05:06 Lane shares how his wife went from an X-Ray technician to Software Dev 07:00 When did Trash Puppy start learning to code? 08:24 Trash Puppy pivoted to Golang? 09:29 Was there anything else about the industry that motivated Trash Puppy to switch to WebDev? 10:38 NetPuppy 13:12 Coding in Cyber Security 18:10 Do you want to hire Trash Puppy? 18:27 Current Job Market and Job Hunting 22:51 You have a better chance applying to local jobs 25:25 Lack of experience in the field when searching for a job 29:26 Outlook on AI 30:15 Impact of not having a CS Degree 33:11 Building projects or studying up on foundations? 37:19 The learning happens during the struggle 41:47 What has been the hardest thing about learning Go so far? 45:27 What do you like the most about Go? 47:03 What's your least favorite part about Go? 48:20 Installing Go modules vs GOPATH 50:31 Where to find Trash Puppy

Today, we're thrilled to have Tommy Graves, co-founder of RWX, a company focusing on building tools that optimize build and test performance, reliability, and developer experience. In this episode, we're delving deep into the realm of CI/CD (Continuous Integration and Continuous Deployment), with a special focus on Mint - their latest CI platform. We'll be exploring its unique features, how it differs from its competitors, caching, security, cost-efficiency in production pipelines. Apart from that, we'll also discuss GitHub Actions along with it's biggest flaws and finally demystifying CI/CD, as it is not the big monster a lot of developers perceive it to be. Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm Mint: https://www.rwx.com/mint Timestamps: 00:54 Who is Tommy Graves 05:14 What is Continuous Integration? 06:57 What is Mint trying to solve, that isn't solved by other CI/CD platforms 09:57 Better Semantic Output on a CI/CD platform 14:20 What's the benefit to the structure of semantic logging, apart from visualization 15:23 CI/CD course on Boot.dev 17:59 Does Mint make it cheaper for companies that have high CI/CD expenses? 19:12 Why don't other companies do caching the way Mint does? 25:49 There are security implications of using the same platform for both CI and CD 30:42 How smaller teams could benefit from Mint 33:15 Verifying changes to the deployment workflow with GitHub Actions and Mint 36:49 Is GitHub Actions dominating the space or is there still competition? 39:04 One of the biggest frustrations with GitHub Actions 42:03 Does Mint relate to the Unix philosophy? 48:07 How does configuring the CI/CD tools drive the philosophy of Mint 50:36 Just understand CI/CD, you won't need those courses dedicated to CI/CD platforms 53:45 CI/CD is not as esoteric as it sounds 58:48 Where to find Mint

Today, we bring a special "Whiskey, Web and Whatnot" edition to our podcast, where we welcome Travis Wagner and Robbie The Wagner, to talk about controversial takes regarding tech CEOs, their experiences in the field, the impact of AI and other personal preferences towards technologies Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Whiskey, Web and Whatnot podcast: https://whiskey.fm/Robbie's Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagnerTravis's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/techsavvytravvy Travis's Twitter: https://twitter.com/techsavvytravvy Timestamps: 01:22 Whiskey, Web and Whatnot 01:52 Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg, which Tech CEO of 2024 is your favorite? 03:28 Robbie's Background 04:42 Travis's background 06:23 Big company or small company? 10:07 Tenures, incentives and current market 12:33 Who would you pick for your team, Steve Ballmer or Sundar Pichai 13:41 AWS or GCP? 16:25 DevOps is not a real job 20:16 Be a DevRel or a Scrum Master? 23:38 What's the difference between DevRel and Dev Advocate? 24:56 AI or VR, which is more impactful on a developer's day-to-day? 31:53 Which Big Tech Company sucks the least? 36:21 Bigger Salary but Less Equity or Less Salary but More Equity? 41:19 Is Blockchain Gone Yet? 50:52 CS Degree or Being an Open Source Maintainer on a successful project? 55:10 Remote or On-site? 01:03:19 Where to find Robbie 01:03:43 Where to find Travis

In today's episode, we bring Thorsten Ball, author of "Writing An Interpreter In Go" and "Writing A Compiler In Go". In this talk, we discuss the different clashes and responsibilities between Product and Engineering teams, reignite the topic of working with technical managers, explain why cookie banners are dumb, and on a more interpersonal note, discuss how important coolness is in education, explain why a lot of the times, highly talented people just don't know how to work and also dabble into the ideas of fulfillment, responsibility and reliability.

Thorsten's Twitter: https://twitter.com/thorstenball
Register Spill: https://registerspill.thorstenball.com/
Thorsten's Books: https://thorstenball.com/books/

• (01:08) - The idea behind Register Spill
• (02:20) - It's a Negotiation: When Product and Engineering meet
• (05:58) - Engineering vs Product
• (07:31) - Thorsten's view of the Product team
• (09:36) - Thorsten's view of the Engineering team
• (11:06) - Engineers should inform product before building something
• (14:57) - Real-life example from Thorsten
• (18:04) - Measuring completixy in T-Shirt sizes and Time Estimates
• (22:46) - Set a cap on time dedicated to a task
• (23:50) - Do we need more technical leadership?
• (27:58) - Working with Engineering Managers that are technical is a bliss
• (35:19) - Not Every Company Is For Everybody
• (41:14) - Cookie Banners are Dumb
• (50:13) - Educators underestimate how important coolness is
• (56:19) - There are a lot of highly capable people that just don't know how to work
• (01:02:20) - Getting fulfillment just from the effort
• (01:04:23) - Be reliable
• (01:06:34) - Where to find Thorsten

In this episode, we bring Daniel Roe, the Lead Maintainer of Nuxt.js, an open source framework that makes web development intuitive and powerful. Today, he shares his journey into the framework and sheds some light on intriguing questions surrounding its development and usage. Today's talk ranges from the origins of Nuxt to its unique features and practical tips for developers, deliberate naming, comparison with Next.js and technical and detailed discussion regarding performance optimization and project structuring.

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Daniel's Twitter: https://x.com/danielcroe
Daniel's Website: https://roe.dev/
Nuxt Framework: https://nuxt.com

• (00:14) - How did Daniel Roe join Nuxt?
• (02:53) - Elk, Moose and Wilderness
• (06:07) - Was it named Nuxt intentionally to confuse people?
• (08:32) - Next.js vendor lock-in criticism and does Nuxt have any similar issues
• (11:31) - Boot.dev moved from a Vue 3 SPA to Nuxt
• (14:19) - Auto-importing by default?
• (20:01) - Using longer variable names because of global namespace
• (21:58) - Explaining the default Nuxt payload behavior
• (26:59) - Default prefetching
• (30:17) - What are the most common use cases for Nuxt apps
• (32:32) - Who has control in your project?
• (33:45) - Enabling JavaScript or not?
• (37:25) - Updating head tags in Nuxt
• (39:09) - New feature that improves script handling in Nuxt
• (41:01) - What do you prioritize? Interactivity or Scripts?
• (42:06) - Google Tag Manager
• (46:07) - What's Daniel's favorite Nuxt feature?
• (47:11) - Types are amazing!
• (49:37) - How did the Idea of Boot.dev came to be?
• (51:24) - Gamification of coding
• (53:46) - Theory is picked up from practice
• (56:05) - What's one thing you'd instantly change about Nuxt if you could
• (59:04) - Separation of what goes on in the client vs the server in the same file
• (01:04:44) - Where to find Daniel

In today's episode, we bring back Teej DeVries, the first guest ever on our podcast! Today we are discussing Teej's new course on Boot.dev on Memory Management. In this talk, we discuss the importance of memory, why Go is a C-programmer minded language, garbage collectors, among other technical topics. We also talk about why understanding the fundamentals in crucial in helping you increase your learning ability, how different it is hiring juniors and seniors and why being curious gives you the advantage over everyone else.

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Teej's Twitter: https://twitter.com/teej_dv
Teej's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/tjdevries

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (00:57) - Teej will have a course on Boot.dev!
• (01:35) - Why Memory Management is so important
• (05:17) - Go is a C-programmer minded language
• (07:00) - 25% off on boot.dev!
• (07:22) - How far in the curriculum will Teej's course be?
• (09:13) - Should you learn Rust or C first?
• (12:43) - Dropping out of college
• (13:49) - You should know WHY you're doing something
• (15:29) - Self motivated learning
• (18:52) - Internal Boot.dev tooling for this course
• (21:59) - OCamls' garbage collector
• (23:55) - Functional language, performance and immutability constraints
• (30:24) - Roc programming language
• (32:42) - Wasm (WebAssembly) vs Machine Code
• (36:07) - C's Standard Library vs Go's Standard Library
• (37:01) - Installing dependencies
• (41:09) - C as an educational tool
• (43:27) - You have to think when using C
• (45:42) - Enterprise machines are weaker compared to local machines
• (47:43) - Why this course is before the Job Search chapter
• (49:44) - Being curious gives you the advantage
• (51:16) - Every program uses memory, so we should have at least some level of understanding about it
• (54:28) - Just being able to speak like an engineer goes a long way
• (57:14) - There are still a ton of jobs that involve embedded systems, not just WebDev
• (01:00:13) - Be eager to learn
• (01:01:51) - Hiring Seniors vs Hiring Juniors
• (01:02:50) - You learn better if you understand fundamentals
• (01:04:10) - Analogy to Dota 2
• (01:08:54) - Where to find Teej

In this episode, Lane chats with Lewis Menelaws, a Full-Stack developer and entrepreneur. Today he takes us through his coding journey and insights as a developer influencer. From his early days coding Roblox games, tech stacks, and the challenges of freelancing, to his shift into content creation and thoughts on the current programming meta. 

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Lewis's Twitter: https://twitter.com/LewisMenelaws
Lewis's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/CodingwithLewis

• (02:01) - Intro
• (02:18) - We need to talk about developer influencers
• (02:53) - When did Lewis first learn to code
• (05:17) - Java and PHP
• (06:17) - Shift from Python2 to Python3
• (07:02) - Why Python
• (07:34) - Dynamic Typing Isn't Enjoyable
• (09:09) - Dynamic Languages are just a tool
• (09:47) - When did Lewis Start a WebDev Agency
• (12:30) - Pivotal moment at the agency
• (15:50) - Website vs WebApp
• (21:53) - Tech stacks
• (24:54) - Not so Open Source
• (27:09) - Opinion about TypeScript
• (29:13) - Understanding topics at a deeper level
• (33:23) - 1 layer deeper than where i do most of my work
• (35:45) - Be the glue
• (38:28) - Dependencies as a cost
• (39:57) - What motivated Lewis to start his own agency
• (40:52) - Freelancing is playing on hard mode
• (43:14) - Transition to content creation
• (46:42) - Confidence in your technical abilities
• (49:12) - We need to talk about developer Influencers
• (56:19) - Catering towards the algorithm
• (56:56) - Take on the current programming meta
• (58:55) - Future of Coding with Lewis channel
• (01:01:55) - Where to find lewis
• (00:00) - Chapter 28

In this episode, Lane talks to Alex DeBrie, author of the DynamoDB book. Today's talk covers various aspects such as DynamoDB's comparison with Amazon S3, its benefits, use cases, constraints, and cost considerations, while also covering other AWS and Google Cloud services. Alex also shares his insights into his journey of writing the book on DynamoDB and touches on topics like access patterns, secondary indexes, and billing modes. Alex also shares his professional experiences, including consulting vs freelancing, thoughts of entrepreneurial aspirations, and gives helpful advice for those that are considering pursuing a similar career.

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Alex's Twitter: https://twitter.com/alexbdebrie
Alex's Website: https://www.alexdebrie.com

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (01:27) - Who is Alex DeBrie?
• (02:39) - What is DynamoDB?
• (04:15) - EC2 instance
• (05:50) - Amazon S3
• (06:25) - DynamoDB is more like S3
• (07:40) - Difference between DynamoDB and S3
• (08:20) - What do we mean when we say NoSQL
• (10:08) - BigQuery and BigTable
• (12:31) - Some of DynamoDB's benefits
• (13:15) - When to use DynamoDB
• (15:58) - Constraint of number of connections
• (18:06) - DynamoDB is a multi-tenant service
• (19:21) - How does DynamoDB shake up against something like MongoDB
• (22:22) - DynamoDB is opinionated, but it provides good results consistently
• (25:54) - You can only do certain things in DynamoDB, but they are guaranteed to be fast
• (26:42) - Relational Databases - Theory vs Practicality
• (31:08) - How Alex came to write a book about DynamoDB
• (32:15) - What happens when SQL runs, depends heavily on the system underneath
• (33:57) - DynamoDB doesn't have a query planner
• (36:08) - Access patterns
• (38:04) - Use case for Secondary Indexes
• (39:43) - Costs of DynamoDB
• (40:45) - Billing modes for DynamoDB
• (45:26) - Provisioning and planning for expenses
• (48:40) - Super Mario 64 Hack
• (49:34) - What Was Alex's Last Full Time Job
• (51:02) - Consulting vs Freelancing
• (52:23) - Does Alex see himself going back to a Full Time Job?
• (53:07) - Does Alex have any entrepreneurial urges?
• (54:01) - What you should think about before jumping into freelance/consulting
• (56:01) - Authority in the consulting world
• (57:11) - Where to find Alex

In today’s episode, we bring Adam Argyle, a CSS Dev Rel at Google, content creator, co-host at CSS Podcast, Bad At CSS Podcast and host of GUI Challenges. He’s also the creator of a bunch of tools and utilities for the front-end.

We’re going to touch on a lot of hot topics, regarding the difficulty and power of CSS, how programmers most of the time underestimate and dismiss it as something trivial when in reality it’s one of the hardest things to master in the programming world. We also go over AI, the barriers between designers and developers and a bunch of other topics.

Learn back-end development - https://www.boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Adam's Website: https://nerdy.dev/

Adam's X/Twitter: https://x.com/argyleink

Adam on Chrome For Developers: https://chromeextensionsdocs.appspot.com/authors/argyle/

The CSS Podcast: https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com/

Bad at CSS Podcast: https://badatcss.com/

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:51 CSS Wizard has entered the chat

02:37 HTML and CSS are not programming languages

07:44 There's a case for complex things using CSS

10:28 CSS is declarative by nature

17:58 Writing CSS is a pain

20:43 AI isn't a threat to CSS

21:19 Breaking barriers between designers and developers

26:33 Getting to an entry-level competency on the backend is a bit more difficult when compared to the frontend

31:37 Adam's backstory

33:40 Knowing everything

34:56 The majority of the complexity lives on the frontend a lot of the times

38:48 South Park Reality

39:49 BFF vs BOF (Backend for frontend vs Backend of the Frontend)

47:03 CSS is typed in the browser

51:28 Take on why are there so many mormons and ex-mormons in the webdev and tech influencer scene?

54:08 Where to find Adam

In this episode, Lane talks to Dax Raad, a well rounded engineer that is currently a developer for SST, a framework that helps people build Full-Stack applications on AWS with ease. Today, they talk about personal opinions on industry practices, scale, financial decisions, infrastructure mistakes, reflections on long-term company commitments and many more!

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Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Dax's Twitter: https://twitter.com/thdxr

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (00:51) - Dax's Tweets and Personal Branding
• (01:31) - You have to learn to be yourself
• (02:56) - Intrusive thoughts
• (03:33) - When did Dax become active in the Tech Twitter scene
• (06:30) - What was the Zero Interest Rate Phenomenon (ZIRP) in the tech scene
• (09:33) - Should people choose fun early in their career?
• (12:22) - Lane's take on the expertise when abstracting
• (14:15) - SST's Philosophy in regards to abstractions
• (16:35) - Merging roles
• (19:28) - People don't want to care about the cloud
• (21:31) - Less stressed about work = better results
• (24:10) - Managers vs leaders
• (25:20) - Dax shares stories about managing vs leading
• (29:36) - Did Dax ever have users?
• (31:24) - Most Startups Fail
• (32:09) - Dax's reason for joining startups
• (33:25) - Staying at a company for decades
• (35:53) - Main downside of staying at an established company for a long time
• (36:34) - The World changes, so don't look at how already established companies do things
• (37:57) - Scale has a different meaning for different companies
• (40:07) - So much goes away when you have less people at the company
• (41:51) - Sometimes not saving money is a better option
• (43:35) - Moving off Stripe
• (46:54) - Rolling your own payment processor
• (49:05) - Which debate on Tech Twitter annoys Dax the most
• (50:52) - Stored Procedure debate
• (53:31) - What's a BIG mistake in the infrastructure space?
• (57:31) - Kubernetes
• (01:02:58) - What Dax misses from Google Cloud
• (01:03:19) - Is Sundar Pichai a bad CEO?
• (01:04:51) - Where to find Dax

Lane chats with Dev Agrawal— content creator & Developer Advocate at Clerk! Tune in as they discuss DevRel, authentication vs. authorization, JWT, and so much more in this episode. 

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Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Dev's Twitter: https://twitter.com/devagrawal09
Dev's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@devagr

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (00:50) - Is Dev's name really Dev?
• (02:10) - What is it about writing code that scares Dev?
• (02:50) - JavaScript is one of the worst with dependencies
• (03:09) - Dev's ideal world
• (03:20) - .NET and Blazor
• (03:59) - Blazor explained
• (04:36) - WASM on the Front-end
• (05:04) - Is Blazor unique to C# ?
• (06:11) - What is a DevRel?
• (08:07) - Lane's experience
• (09:13) - You shouldn't roll your own Auth
• (11:59) - Undifferentiated work
• (13:56) - Authentication vs Authorization
• (16:19) - Regarding Auth, which is a bigger pain point for companies
• (16:48) - Pain points of Authorization
• (18:38) - Pain Points of Authentication
• (20:23) - Lane's perspective
• (22:29) - Using a third party for authorization
• (24:27) - Is Clerk used for both Authentication and Authorization?
• (26:16) - JWT explained
• (28:39) - Where is the users' data stored?
• (29:27) - Features are developed as needed
• (29:52) - Auth coupling to the rest of the system
• (30:16) - Webhooks listeners to access user session data
• (31:03) - Postgres foreign-data wrapper
• (32:09) - Microservices sharing databases
• (34:29) - CQRS
• (37:37) - Average size of a company that uses Clerk
• (40:50) - What are the most used ways to sign-in
• (42:04) - Stances on passwords
• (46:56) - OAuth
• (50:33) - Why Lane dropped Sign-in with Twitter/X
• (51:14) - What do popular services usually use?
• (52:24) - Sign-in with Google
• (57:39) - Unpopular opinion on Auth related web architecture
• (01:00:17) - 2 ways of doing authentication
• (01:05:59) - Where to find Dev

Lane chats with Matt Holt-- a renowned figure in backend engineering and the creator of Caddy, a leading platform for serving sites and apps written in Go. In this episode, they discuss the origins of Caddy, its unique features, and Matt's journey in Go programming and web development.

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Matt Holt Twitter: https://x.com/mholt6?s=20
Caddy Web Server Twitter: https://x.com/caddyserver?s=20

Lane chats with BadCop-- a senior Bash engineer, Twitch streamer and the mastermind behind their online presence. From the origins of 'BadCop' to the recent emergence of 'BashCop,' they explore scripting languages, focusing on Bash, shells, terminals and more. Follow the conversation in this enlightening episode, unraveling the intricacies of online identity and the technical landscape of Unix shells!

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BadCop Twitter: twitter.com/badcop_
BadCop Twitch: twitch.tv/badcop_

Lane chats with Richard Feldman, creator of the Roc programming language, about why he decided to create it. They discuss object oriented programming and whether it did irreparable damage to the industry - or not. Follow along as they talk about all of that and functional programming too!

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Richard Feldmans Twitter: twitter.com/rtfeldman
Roc Programming Language: https://www.roc-lang.org/
Software Unscripted can be found on any podcast platform!

Lane chats with Philip Winston, a software engineer with a storied history who recently published an article titled "Brain Oriented Programming". Tune in as Lane and Philip talk about the pros and cons of object oriented programming and... guitar hero? Don't miss this episode of Backend Banter!

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Philip Winston's Twitter: https://twitter.com/pbwinston
Brain Oriented Programming Article: https://tobeva.com/articles/brain-oriented-programming/

Lane chats with AJ O'Neal about giving up on Rust, the challenges of using brew from a permissions standpoint, and how, exactly, WebI is not a package manager. Tune in as they discuss why AJ developed WebI, and why you should be using it as well. 

AJ O'Neal's Twitter: https://twitter.com/coolaj86
WebI: https://webinstall.dev/

In this episode of Backend Banter, Lane chats with JLarky about React server components... in GO. Why would anyone want to do that? Find out here! They also discuss how JLarky came up with the idea to use React in the backend, what other people think about the practice, and how he uses it to streamline his process. All this is intermixed with discussing the differences between frontend and backend, and how knowing how both work can make either job easier!

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Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.com

JLarky's Twitter: twitter.com/JLarky

Lane chats with Sabine, one of the primary maintainers of OCaml.org, about how she built web apps in Django on the side, only to land her first programming job working close to the OCaml ecosystem, and quickly become enveloped in the project. Her backstory about skipping grades, dropping out of school, and teaching herself various web languages is fascinating, give it a listen.

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Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.com

Sabine's Twitter: https://twitter.com/sabine_s_
OCaml Homepage: https://ocaml.org/

Matteo Collina is a member of the Node.js technical steering committee and has one of the most impressive developer resumes we've ever seen. His 500 NPM modules have over 17 billion downloads. Today, he sits down with Lane to discuss Node, the future of backend web development, and Platformatic, his new startup.

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Matteo's Twitter: https://twitter.com/matteocollina

In today’s episode, we welcome Matt Pocock, an educator, content creator and engineer who used to be a voice coach. Now, he teaches Typescript on his YouTube channel and is building Total Typescript, the most comprehensive TypeScript course available out there.

We talk about his transition from a completely unrelated field into tech, the importance of great communication, TypeScript’s future, AI tooling and job hunts! A lot more else is covered in this video, so get cozy and tune in into this gem of an episode!

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Matt's X/Twitter: https://x.com/mattpocockuk

Total Typescript: https://www.totaltypescript.com/

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:15 What did Matt do before becoming a dev?

03:15 Career Transitions from a non-math background

04:02 What makes a good programmer?

06:46 Math knowledge > great communication?

08:55 On writing elaborate PR's

09:58 OCaml my Typescript

11:00 What is Typescript's Future?

14:21 Python type hinting and JSDoc

20:36 null vs undefined

25:02 interfaces vs type aliases

32:35 Does Matt have any rules of thumb when working with types?

37:14 How do you build nice encapsulated components with no external dependencies?

43:43 AI tooling integration

46:15 Will there be fewer jobs?

52:00 How often do you use classes?

54:29 Where to find Matt

Lane and Aaron Francis sit down to talk about Laravel and PHP, and why everyone who uses them tends to make a lot of money. There seems to be something to avoiding the technical hype cycle and just shipping web apps that people want to use.

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Aaron Francis' Twitter: https://twitter.com/aarondfrancis
Aaron Francis' YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCbixkBITOOa2XNviJLxMh2w 
Aaron Francis' SQL Course: https://planetscale.com/learn/courses/mysql-for-developers/introduction/course-introduction
Learn to make Screencasts: Screencasting.com

Lane chats with his distributed systems professor from when he was a computer science undergraduate, Dr. Russ Ross. They talk about the state of the hiring market in 2023, LLVM, and of course, distributed systems!

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Russ Ross's Twitter: https://twitter.com/_russross?lang=en

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Byron Ruth and David Gee from the NATS and the Synadia team join Lane today to chat about distributed systems, and more specifically, PubSub architectures. If you've ever wondered about the difference between a distributed monolith and a truly distributed system, this episode is for you. We break down NATS and how it relates to other systems like RabbitMQ, Kafka, and more.

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Byron's Twitter: https://twitter.com/thedevel
David's Twitter: https://twitter.com/davedotdev

NATS: NATS.io
Nats By Example: https://natsbyexample.com/
Synadia: https://www.synadia.com
Synadia Newsletter: https://www.synadia.com/newsletter
Byron's website: byronruth.com
NATSFM Podcast: Nats.FM

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Lane sits down with Sean Walker to talk about Ruby on Rails, dynamic typing, and even a bit of Rust. Sean's been writing Ruby on Rails for years, and has some opinions on DHH's recent articles.

Sean Walker's Twitter: https://twitter.com/swlkr
Sean Walker's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/swlkr

This is a podcast about backend development, so I couldn't miss the chance to chat with Carson Cross, the creator of HTMX and author of the book Hypermedia Systems. HTMX is all about giving backend developers the power to build modern webapps, without needing to write a line of frontend JavaScript. In a way, it's a return to the way the web used to work pre-React.

Find more about HTMX below!

https://htmx.org/
https://hypermedia.systems/
https://bigsky.software/
https://twitter.com/htmx_org

Has web development gone full circle? Should we really just be writing PHP monoliths? Maybe all go back to WordPress? Wes and Lane break down how web development has changed over the years, and where its heading next.

Wes Twitter: https://twitter.com/wesbos
Wes Insta: https://www.instagram.com/wesbos/
Wes YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WesBos
Wes site: https://wesbos.com/
Wes Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesbos/

If you're nervous about searching for programming jobs this episode is for you. Lane sits down with Don the Developer to chat about everything from resumes and cover letters to how to present yourself in an interview.

DonTheDeveloper's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/donthedeveloper

Theo Browne is a notorious tech YouTuber and streamer, CEO of Ping.gg, TypeScript advocate and creator of the t3 stack. In this episode Theo sheds some light on his background in Elixir, a functional programming language that runs on the Erlang VM, and why he made the switch to TypeScript while working at Twitch.

Pekka is the CTO of TursoDB, a cloud database product that helps developers run SQLite on the edge. Lane and Pekka talk about all the tradeoffs involved with SQLite, as well as the tradeoffs of putting your database geographically near your backend servers.

Pekka's Twitter: https://twitter.com/penberg
Turso: https://turso.tech/
LibSQL: https://github.com/libsql/libsql

In today’s episode, we welcome Lawrence Lockhart, a former hospitality manager turned full stack software developer. Apart from his tech job, he’s also a developer advocate, a teaching assistant at a coding bootcamp and a tech meetup leader, so you know he spends a lot of his time helping others build and transfer their existing skills into tech, being a powerful voice in the tech space for upcoming developers.

Today we talk briefly about how he managed to switch from hospitality to tech, and how that wasn’t as easy as a lot of people online make it out to be, the importance of local and in-person jobs as opposed to starting off remote, how learning with purpose is essential if you want to make progress and advice for people starting out!

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Code Connector: https://codeconnector.io

Lawrence's X/Twitter: https://x.com/LawrenceDCodes

Lawrence's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawrencedlockhart

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:44 When did Lawrence start to be more involved in the online tech communities?

02:23 How did Lawrence meet James Q Quick

04:42 Transition from a Blue Collar job into Tech

10:59 6 months is not the standard anymore to get in the industry

13:44 The Timeline Discussion

15:56 Kelsey Hightower

18:09 Has Lawrence worked as a dev in non-tech companies and where he works now

23:33 It's IMPORTANT to go for local market and in-person jobs first

24:27 How networking actually works

28:46 Learning with a purpose

36:43 You shouldn't be trying to minmax your career path

39:43 Advice to people that are unsure in their skills

43:51 How to approach interviews

49:31 You have to practice interviewing

54:48 Learn the thing or get out

58:33 Disagree and commit

01:01:45 Where to find Lawrence

The near-cinematic trailer for the backend banter podcast. Featuring The Primeagen, Melkey, TJ Devries, Miriah Peterson, Bill Kennedy, and Brian Morrison from PlanetScale. Hope you like the pod!

Lane chats with Rob Walling. Rob is the author of several books, including the SaaS playbook and Start Small Stay Small. He founded Drip, TinySeed and even runs MicroConf, the largest conference for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped founders. In this episode they chat about how new backend developers can use their skills in a full time job, but how those skills are also unbelievably valuable when it comes to starting companies.

Rob Walling's Twitter: https://twitter.com/robwalling
Rob's Book, "The Saas Playbook": https://saasplaybook.com/
TinySeed: https://tinyseed.com/
Rob's Podcast: https://www.startupsfortherestofus.com/

Miriah Peterson chats with Lane about how great Go tends to be for not only backend application development, but also data engineering roles. Miriah hosts Golang meetups and conferences alongside her full time job, so they also discuss how in person networking can help your new career as a programmer.

Lane chats with Mat Ryer, a host of the amazing GoTime.fm podcasts sits down with Lane to chat about his experience as a Go developer. Among other things, they chat about how Mat used Go to successfully build and sell a multi-million dollar company.

Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev
Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.com

Mat Ryer's Twitter: https://twitter.com/matryer
GoTimeFM: https://changelog.com/gotime
Mat on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@matryer7143
Blue Monday: https://github.com/microcosm-cc/bluemonday
Big Tent Pod: https://bigtent.fm/