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The Power Behind Evolutionary Change Featuring Dr. Geerat Vermeij02 Jul 202500:36:04

Have you ever tried to picture the natural world without relying on sight? It’s a wild thought, but for Dr. Geerat J. Vermeij, it’s just how he experiences life. Blind since the age of three, Dr. Vermeij built an extraordinary career as an evolutionary biologist. He’s a MacArthur “Genius” Fellow, a celebrated author, and Professor Emeritus of Earth and Planetary Sciences at UC Davis.

In our conversation, Dr. Vermeij walks us through the hidden stories that mollusk shells can tell us about evolution. Think underwater battles, survival strategies, and long-forgotten extinction events. He also introduces a powerful idea (no pun intended): that it’s not just energy that drives evolution, it's power. He digs into this more deeply in his book The Evolution of Power, which turns traditional theories on their head in the best possible way.

But science is just part of the story. Dr. Vermeij also talks about what it’s been like to build a life in academia without sight including challenges, but also the deep gratitude he has for the mentors and collaborators who helped him thrive. He doesn’t sugarcoat it, but there’s something incredibly moving about the way he frames inclusion not as charity, but as essential to discovery.

This episode kicks off our special series for Disability Pride Month, where we spotlight brilliant thinkers who expand how we see the world and what’s possible within it. Dr. Vermeij’s life reminds us that resilience, curiosity, and community can break barriers and reshape the story of science itself.


In This Episode:

[02:32] Dr. Vermeij talks about some of the things that he is the most proud of including his early insights including that shells are defenses against predators.

[03:12] Shells get damaged but not necessarily lethally damaged. Most of his work has been a variation of this theme.

[04:04] These adaptations are relatively recent in geological time. This means that the evolution between predator and prey has experienced spectacular adaptations.

[05:16] He spent a lot of time studying in Guam, Panama, and Jamaica. Also New Guinea, Australia, and many more Islands. Every biologist should visit the tropics.

[07:08] His main finding was to connect geological history with modern adaptation. He's also expanded to other organisms besides mollusks.

[08:17] He's working on another book about what it's like to be a scientist. He and a colleague are also working on the evolution of semi-aquatic mammals.

[09:39] Trying to understand evolutionary transitions and taking fossils into account is part of a larger project.

[10:17] We should be diverse in the ways that we approach problems.

[11:01] Unanswered questions in biology today including questions about natural selection.

[12:40] What are the effects of climate change? A place to look are the changes in the effects of the geological records.

[13:15] Dr. Vermeij talks about his book, The Evolution of Power. Energy doesn't do anything for you unless you use it.

[16:39] How collecting shells as a boy shaped his love for the sciences. He's always had an interest in nature and the natural sciences.

[20:13] We learn about his experience being a blind scientist. According to Dr. Vermeij, he has faced relatively few barriers. He had highly supportive potential mentors.

[22:38] He's adapted well to his work, because he's had extremely amazing and helpful assistants.

[24:03] All of his role models have been sighted, and have gone out of their way to help someone who was really interested in their work.

[27:15] He's always had a successful career from the beginning.

[28:32] Advice includes really liking what you're doing and working very hard. Have a strong curiosity about the world and the sense of what is important and what is not important.

[29:39] For blind people, having readers can get you through materials so much faster than the computer. This is also how Dr. Vermeij met his wife.

[31:56] He's had a long time view that we should pay less attention to people's identities and more to what they can actually do.

[33:42] He's the most proud of his journey, and how he recognized something interesting and pursued knowledge. He's all about asking scientific questions.


Resources: 

Dr. Geerat J. Vermeij - UC Davis

The Evolution of Power: A New Understanding of the History of Life

MacArthur Fellows


Doug Moe on WARF, Warfarin, and the Power of University Research25 Jun 202500:37:03

What if one of the most important medical breakthroughs of the 20th century began with a dead cow and a desperate young farmer? That’s exactly what happened in 1933, when 21-year-old Ed Carlson arrived in Madison, Wisconsin, carrying a bucket of blood and a mystery that would eventually lead to the discovery of warfarin. This unlikely starting point sparked years of relentless research by biochemist Karl Paul Link and his team, fueled by scientific curiosity, institutional support, and an unshakable belief in the power of perseverance.

As we celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation (WARF), we’re shining a light on the remarkable intersection of science, history, and Wisconsin legacy that made this discovery possible. Our guest is acclaimed journalist and author Doug Moe, whose storytelling career spans four decades and includes thousands of columns and multiple award-winning biographies. His latest work, Saving Hearts and Killing Rats: Karl Paul Link and the Discovery of Warfarin, brings this fascinating journey to life and was recently honored as the “Wisconsin Book of the Month” by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

In our conversation, Doug shares how he was first approached to tell this story, why it took him years to finally dive in, and what he uncovered in Link’s letters, archives, and personal history. We’ll hear about the personalities, the persistence, and the politics that surrounded the development of warfarin and explore why the impact of WARF and university-driven innovation still resonates so powerfully a hundred years later.


In This Episode:

[01:59] Tom Link, the son of Carl Paul Link, brought Doug a stack of articles and papers about his dad. This was a decade ago. 

[03:24] Doug knew Carl Paul Link was somebody who needed a biography written. This is the perfect time to highlight innovation and university research and tech transfer.

[04:40] Link died in 1978, but the University of Wisconsin had an amazing archive of his work. Link was an avid letter writer. He would even put the time of his correspondence on his letters and it was often 2:30 in the morning.

[06:09] The incoming correspondence was also a treasure trove.

[07:24] Doug walks us through the story of the origin of warfarin, beginning with a dead cow and a bucket of blood. 

[09:02] There was a connection between sweet clover hay and cow's dying because their blood couldn't clot.

[10:15] Scientists spent six years trying to figure out why this was. They eventually discovered a hemorrhagic agent that they were able to reproduce synthetically.

[11:27] They faced many hurdles including how long it took to have success. Perseverance is at the top of the success list. 

[13:10] People doubted Link's story, but Ed Carlson was real. 

[15:14] Warfarin is an anticoagulant, but it can also be used as a rat poison.

[17:10] How warfarin got its name. 

[19:06] The tipping point for warfarin becoming commonly accepted was when President Eisenhower had a heart attack in 1955.

[20:34] Link had a big personality. He was likely manic depressive or bipolar. He was a complex individual. He was also a fancy dresser. 

[22:52] Link was also into activism on campus. 

[25:00] He also had controversies. 

[28:44] We learn about Link's blowout with Harry Steenbock.

[29:25] WARF's involvement in warfarin becoming available to the public. WARF helped with the patent and donated money to the University of Wisconsin.

[31:37] WARF's 100th anniversary, and the power of university tech transfer and public research foundations.

[32:29] Doug is glad that his book highlights the importance of innovation and tech transfer. 

[34:29] What Doug would like readers to take from the book.


Resources: 

Saving Hearts and Killing Rats: Karl Paul Link and the Discovery of Warfarin

Doug Moe

Doug Moe - LinkedIn

Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation:WARF

Karl Paul Link

Green by Design: Integrating Sustainability into Innovation Strategy with Josh Dorfman18 Jun 202500:35:51

What happens when climate innovation isn’t just a buzzword but a blueprint for real change? In this episode, we explore how climate-focused technologies are being developed, commercialized, and scaled in ways that go far beyond traditional models. 

My guest, Josh Dorfman, brings a rare mix of experience in both business and policy, with a track record of building ventures that reduce emissions while delivering everyday value. Josh is the co-founder and CEO of Plantd, a company creating carbon-negative building materials that was recently named one of the world’s most innovative by Fast Company. 

He also launched The Lazy Environmentalist, a media brand that made sustainability more accessible, and now runs Supercool, a platform spotlighting climate tech with real-world impact. With past work ranging from startups to established brands like Brita, Josh offers a grounded, actionable look at how innovation, sustainability, and commercialization intersect and what that means for tech transfer offices and startups who want to make a difference.


In This Episode:

[02:17] Thinking about climate goes back to being an English teacher in China in the 1990s. He saw the future of a billion cars in China and never shook the thought. 

[04:36] He was involved in tech in the States, but wanted to do something about climate. He started a sustainable furniture company in 2004. This eventually led to where he is now.

[05:12] Plantd is working on carbon negative construction materials made out of grass and resin.

[06:23] They talked to green builders, but the scale wasn't there. They decided to reach out to the largest builders in the market.

[07:32] They opened a path to go to market with D.R. Horton, one of the biggest builders in the country.

[10:01] First steps for building sustainability into your tech transfer strategy include being integrated in the tech ecosystem that many cities are building around the country.

[11:07] Building connectivity and getting integrated in the ecosystem is paramount.

[12:05] Sustainability is built into the product. Go fast but don't over commit to the wrong path.

[13:42] Supercool focuses on technologies that reduce emissions and improve everyday life. 

[14:09] Technologies include WasteLess, a food waste prevention company. Another one includes Upway which is an infrastructure for getting pre-owned bikes. It creates a built-in market for e bikes.

[18:06] When large brands commit, they're really committed.

[19:40] Working with Brita helped eliminate some disposable water bottles.

[20:46] How policy shapes the space between innovation and government. 

[23:05] The global march towards the low carbon future is inevitable.

[24:20] This is a huge time for cultivating environmentally friendly technology and entrepreneurship.

[26:16] Advice includes lean into sustainability strategically just like bringing any other product to market.

[27:50] Focus on the outcomes and the results for the business that your product will enable. Use sustainability as a differentiator.

[28:26] Josh is excited about the concept of urban mining.

[29:11] In the west, we have all the stuff that contains all these materials.

[31:31] Focus on solutions. 

[32:44] Josh shares his hope for the future. Sustainability is an opportunity for all ages.


Resources: 

Plantd

Josh Dorman - LinkedIn

Supercool

Lazy Environmentalist

WasteLess Solutions

Upway


Transforming Tech Transfer with AI-Driven Insight with Steven Lehmann and Ashish Uppala11 Jun 202500:35:16

What if universities had a smarter way to surface the innovation already happening across their campuses? In this episode, I’m joined by Steven Lehmann, Managing Director of Stargaze at Portal Innovations, and Ashish Uppala, Head of Engineering and Product for Stargaze. 

Steven brings over a decade of experience in venture building and university innovation ecosystems, including leading the University of Chicago’s $20 million pre-seed fund and authoring the Innovation Ecology Substack. Ashish, a former CTO of scite.ai and an expert in AI and machine learning, combines deep technical knowledge with a passion for mapping biotech innovation. 

Together, they share how Stargaze is helping universities navigate today’s funding challenges by identifying hidden opportunities in their research ecosystems. From integrating complex data sources to predicting commercialization potential, Stargaze is transforming how institutions connect innovation with impact.


In This Episode:

[01:50] Portal has been around for about 5 years. The goal has been to build infrastructure that's necessary to commercialize innovation in areas that are over-scienced but underfunded or don't have the resources to take the innovations to market.

[02:51] They've been building the infrastructure to get academic ideas for a Series A investment.

[03:06] They needed to find the scientist and the ideas to plug into their infrastructure. Stargaze is like Google Maps for innovation.

[04:12] Stargaze builds rich maps of scientific ecosystems. They use AI, network science, and reason models.

[06:33] Stargaze helps keep track of all the possibilities and move from reactive to proactive.

[08:24] They are equipping innovators and scouts with understanding the commercial potential of research.

[09:07] They can build a picture to understand the potential landscape.

[11:41] We talk about who's working on the project.

[13:18] The core of Stargaze is organizing information around innovation so that they can feed it into different matching and scoring algorithms. 

[15:17] Because of the information they have, they find investors that are interested in whatever the researcher may be working on.

[16:55] How Innovation biomarkers can be helpful in an emerging system.

[18:47] Finding the signals of who can work together in a meaningful way toward a particular problem.

[21:12] We talk about privacy and security. Data and license is scoped to that person or project. 

[25:26] The recent rate of innovation has been crazy. 

[27:54] Thinking about synergies and risk to the core business.

[29:18] How Tech Transfer professionals can implement Stargaze by signing up to the Stargaze network.

[31:48] It's very user friendly.


Resources: 

Steve Lehmann - Portal Innovations

Steven Lehmann - LinkedIn

Ashish Uppala

Ashish Uppala - Portal Innovations

Ashish Uppala - LinkedIn

Stargaze Network

OpenAlex


Navigating Software, AI, and Open Source in Tech Transfer: A Conversation with Dan Dardani04 Jun 202500:38:25

The world of software innovation is evolving faster than ever, and Tech Transfer professionals are being asked to make critical decisions around open source, copyright, patents, and AI. In this episode, we take a deep dive into this complex landscape with Dan Dardani, Director of Physical Sciences and Digital Innovations Licensing and Corporate Alliances at Duke University. Dan brings over two decades of experience to the conversation, including nearly 20 years at MIT and his long standing leadership in AUTM’s Software Course Committee.

Dan shares his practical insights into how Tech Transfer offices can navigate the tricky decision between copyright and patenting software, how to handle open-source licensing in research environments, and what to consider when commercializing digital tools. He also offers guidance on machine learning and artificial intelligence, addressing real-world questions around IP ownership, data licensing, and the legal gray areas created by emerging technologies.

Whether you’re just starting to build policies for software disclosures and AI-related inventions, or you’re looking to refine your office’s strategy, Dan’s perspective is both grounded and forward-thinking. His advice, drawn from decades of hands-on experience, will help you understand not just what’s changing in the digital IP world, but how to keep up and lead through it.


In This Episode:

[01:57] Patents and copyrights aren't mutually exclusive. They protect different aspects of the software. Software comes with copyright right out of the box.

[02:44] Patents are more difficult and more expensive to obtain. Courts have recently made it more difficult, but it still can be done.

[03:23] When deciding between copyright or patent, ask what the innovation is. Is it a transformative leap? 

[04:57] You need to tell a compelling story and emphasize the transformative ability of your software.

[05:53] The last thing to consider is if there's a commercialization strategy.

[06:48] Examples of software innovations that have met the criteria for patentability. Diamond v. Diehr in the 1980s. Transformative is a key concept in IP thinking.

[08:03] We have to be more careful with applying for algorithms now. 

[09:11] Workhorse apps and code may be more suited for copyright protection than patents.

[10:22] Copyright is the first line measure for protecting innovation.

[10:46] Open-source is vital to software innovation. Risks dealing with open source innovations include third-party code issues, sponsorship issues and open source compliance issues.

[11:45] It's important to not commit copyright infringement by releasing someone else's code.

[13:34] Balancing a researcher's desire to use open source licenses and the universities need to protect IP and pursue commercialization. Education and early communication.

[15:49] There are multiple ways to license, including dual licensing strategies.

[16:14] An example of FFTW using a hybrid licensing model.

[18:13] Releasing code as part of the peer review process.

[21:55] Focusing on machine learning and AI.

[22:07] Addressing IP ownership when working with these technologies. Understanding the difference between being a data producer and a data user.

[23:42] It's crucial to understand the layers and document the data sources.

[24:24] Navigating inventorship when AI is involved. A human needs to be named the inventor.

[26:01] There's going to be an evolution of the laws regarding patents and AI. The laws are going to need to adapt to address inventorship and ownership.

[28:26] Advice for TTOs to mitigate risk that might infringe on existing IP. It gets complicated, and the best advice is to start with a clean house.

[31:13] Distinguishing between the types of data used for licensing.

[33:49] Advice for tech transfer offices that are just beginning to think about these issues and develop policies around proper software hygiene and AI related inventions.


Resources: 

Daniel Dardani - Duke University

Daniel Dardani - LinkedIn

Innovation Without Borders: Insights from the ISTA Forum 2024

Diamond v. Diehr

FFTW


Unlocking Innovation with AI-Powered IP Tools featuring Dr. Marcia Chang28 May 202500:38:01

AI is no longer just a concept in IP. It’s part of how teams work, make decisions and create value. In this episode I talk to Dr. Marcia Chang, VP of IP Operations and Client Success at Tradespace. Dr. Chang has over 20 years of experience in IP strategy, operations and commercialization and has a unique blend of engineering and legal expertise. 

She has a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering from Cornell University and a J.D. from Santa Clara University she’s held leadership roles at companies like Applied Materials, Metawave Corporation and Hewlett Packard Enterprise. She was also recognized as one of the Top 50 Women Leaders in Tech Law. At Tradespace she’s now at the forefront of using AI driven approaches to transform how IP is managed and commercialized. 

Dr. Chang explains how Tradespace is helping universities and companies streamline the entire IP lifecycle. By using AI to simplify invention disclosures, evaluate technical content and identify commercial opportunities the platform gives IP teams clearer insights and greater strategic impact. For Tech Transfer offices with limited resources and growing demands Tradespace is a practical way to prioritise what matters and move more technologies to real-world application. 

We discuss adapting to new technology with a curiosity and willingness to learn. Along with practical tips for building smarter, more connected systems. Dr. Chang also reflects on how AI went from being a tool she was sceptical of to one she now advocates for. 


In This Episode:

[01:41] Dr. Chang gives us an overview of Tradespace. Its mission is to empower IP teams to focus on strategy and unlock the value of their portfolios.

[02:29] The name Tradespace comes from mapping choices onto a multi-dimensional trade space. Teams can weigh alternatives, trade-offs, and find the optimal path.

[03:15] It's their goal to help teams manage IP better and even make IP better.

[04:02] Tactically Tradespace can help IP teams translate technical concepts in the business concepts. Strategically they focus on communicating more value.

[05:54] They help teams sift through the technical information in a short amount of time.

[06:08] Key tools that Tradespace offers. They have tools that help with invention disclosure and use AI to make the submission process easier.

[08:34] They have the ability to streamline the entire IP process in a single end-to-end platform.

[09:27] The data is also very secure.

[10:31] How they help bring innovations to market. They provide AI-assisted commercialization with automatic matching of potential partners along with generating text summaries.

[11:57] They've helped customers identify dormant IP assets and uncovered use cases that hadn't been thought of before.

[14:22] We talk about the specific ways that AI is reshaping the field of IP management. This includes better portfolio management and faster decision making.

[18:22] Getting comfortable with AI begins with education.

[20:55] Challenges in tech transfer today include budget restraints and having to do more with less. AI tools can help with the entire process making things faster, cheaper, and better.

[23:03] They've seen backlogs cleared. It's like adding a member to your team.

[23:57] Potential trends include more transformative technologies unlocking innovation.

[26:03] Dr. Chang talks about her inspiration and how she always took the road less traveled.

[29:56] Valuable lessons include always being humble.

[32:54] Tradespace has unlocked over $100 million of potential revenue for clients. They hope to scale as AI evolves.

[34:56] AI is evolving to become a partner in our work.


Resources: 

Tradespace

Dr. Marcia Chang - LinkedIn

Tomorrow's Lawyers: An Introduction to your Future


Dividing the Equity Pie: Biotech Startup Realities with Dr. Jahanara Ali21 May 202500:28:31

When you start a biotech company, equity isn't just a line on a spreadsheet. It can literally determine who gets to keep pursuing their dream and who has to step aside. In this episode, we're digging into equity distribution, an aspect of launching a startup that's easy to overlook but critically important. It shapes whose ideas ultimately make it from the lab bench to the real world.

My guest today is Dr. Jahanara Ali, founder of Longitude Ventures Consulting. Dr. Ali has spent years working with universities, biotech startups, and investors, helping them transform research into successful businesses. Her recent three-part series, "Dividing the Equity Pie," explores how equity was distributed among founders and investors in biotech companies that went public from 2021 to 2023, and her insights reveal some fascinating trends.

We'll unpack those insights, explore the differences between companies launched by investors versus those started by founders, and talk honestly about the persistent gender gaps in equity stakes. Whether you're a researcher wondering how equity works, a tech transfer specialist representing inventors, or an entrepreneur setting up your own startup, you'll leave this conversation with practical tips and a clearer understanding of how to manage equity fairly and effectively.


In This Episode:

[02:08] We learn about how Dr Ali ended up in biotech and venture consulting. She was a scientist but she knew she wanted to move into the business side.

[03:14] She began working in Tech Transfer and joined an early stage biotech startup to learn about the business side.

[04:02] Through her various experiences she became an expert in equity, licensing, and early stage development.

[05:30] She dove deeper and deeper into how to divide equity for biotech companies.

[06:02] She discovered that equity was all over the place for academic founders.

[07:34] Academic founders usually do better with their equity shares if they negotiate for themselves.

[08:52] She discovered that founders who developed foundational IP or an inventor who took an operational role usually end up with more equity than inventors who stay in academia.

[09:27] It's important to educate faculty members and licensing offices on this data.

[11:12] Advice for academic inventors includes to partner with tech licensing offices but negotiate the equity component separately.

[12:05] Key differences between investor-launched and entrepreneur-launched biotech companies.

[13:43] Founding investors retained about 30% of equity at IPL. Founding entrepreneurs retained about 14% of equity.

[15:13] Companies launched by VCs raised over $100 million. This was a lot more than the entrepreneur launched companies.

[16:08] Lessons include understanding how difficult it is to succeed. Have experienced people around you who have done it before.

[17:18] Out of 243 founders, only about 51% were on the cap table at IPO. The other 50% just drops off for whatever reason.

[18:47] If you're going to raise money, dilution will happen.

[19:50] Gender disparities among founders. 

[20:15] About 85% of the founders were male. Women were 10%. Investors started 5% of the companies.

[21:51] Young women should include male mentors in their professional network. 

[23:19] There are Angel networks that do invest in women entrepreneurs.

[24:18] There is an opportunity to standardize academic equity.

[25:03] Key insights for academic inventors.


Resources: 

Dr. Jahanara Ali - LinkedIn

Longitude Ventures Consulting - LinkedIn



Helping Universities Navigate Europe’s New Patent Landscape with Dr. Rose Hughes14 May 202500:38:05

When cutting‑edge science collides with the realities of commercialization, tech transfer stops being paperwork and starts shaping the future of innovation. That intersection is exactly where European patent attorney and IPKat writer Rose Hughes has built her career, and today she’s here to break down what the latest headline decisions mean for anyone navigating patents on this side of the Atlantic. 

Dr. Hughes traces her journey from a PhD in infection‑immunity at University College London to training with Marks & Clerk, six years in‑house at AstraZeneca’s Cambridge R&D hub, and now a role at boutique firm Evolve, all while sharpening her public voice through IPKat’s mentored blogging model. In our conversation, Dr. Hughes unpacks the Enlarged Board’s looming opinion on reading claims in light of the description and why a Philip Morris case shows the hidden danger of boiler‑plate definitions. 

She explains G 2/21’s guidance on post‑field data using a polymorph dispute where vague promises of stability fell short, and she highlights how the UPC’s early Abbott v Sibio ruling suggests Europe’s new patent court is echoing EPO practice on functional language and added‑matter tests. We also dig into an Amgen peptide‑manufacturing opposition that weighs patent protection against trade secrets, and a recent Board decision where an AI‑driven cell‑analysis method collapsed for lack of technical character and data support.

Dr. Hughes offers practical takeaways for university Tech‑Transfer offices from timing filings to fast‑moving science and preparing for AI tools that may automate drudge work but not strategic thinking. Along with candid advice for newcomers on following the science you love and using AI to focus on high‑value patent strategy.


In This Episode:

[05:16]  Dr. Hughes explains how launching the IPKat blog let her break down complex patent cases, deepen her own understanding, and build a go‑to resource for the European IP community.

[08:22] We learn about some interesting cases that Dr Hughes has worked on recently. 

[09:33] The best IP is going to be grounded in the most exciting and innovative science.

[10:06] We discuss some Enlarged Board of Appeals decisions and opinions about descriptions including the Philip Morris tobacco case.

[13:05] Her advice is to be aware of boilerplate definitions. Also watch out for AI definitions.

[15:15]  A deep dive into the Polymorph Patents ruling. 

[16:18] The Board of Appeal applying G2/21 said that you can use post-published data, but you can't just base it on sweeping statements in your application. Connect your features with how they are solving a problem.

[17:43 ] Insights on the UPC’s Abbott  decision.The new court is likely to follow EPO precedent on added‑matter and claim interpretation.

[20:27]  Dr. Hughes talks about an Amgen peptide manufacturing‑method case. 

[23:47]  A recent Board ruling on AI‑enabled cell‑therapy which uses AI to analyze the cell. (T 0660/22, Cell analysis/NIKON)

[26:27]  There will be an increased use of AI tools and there will be challenges with how this is handled. 

[00:29:08] How tech transfer offices should approach European patent practice. There are significant differences between the two.

[30:19]  The gap in antibody claim scope between the US and Europe is widening. 

[32:07] Predictions for trends and changes that could impact European patent practice and tech transfer in the next few years.

[34:16] Advice for new patent attorneys and agents that are entering the field. Focus on the science that you are interested in. Gain as many different experiences as you can.

[35:47] AI isn't going to take our jobs away; there will still be a role for patent attorneys. It will  automate the tedious processes.


Resources: 

Dr. Rose Hughes - Blogger

Rose Hughes - LinkedIn

Evolve Pharmaceutical IP

The IPKat


CRISPR Breakthroughs in Tuberculosis and Tech Transfer with Dr. Valwynne Faulkner07 May 202500:15:21

This episode will illustrate how scientific research and tech commercialization can create a powerful impact. I'm excited to have Dr. Valwynne Faulkner on the show today. She is a postdoctoral researcher at the Francis Crick Institute and a LifeArc Knowledge Transfer Innovations Fellow. Her fascinating work spans cutting-edge molecular biology research and technology transfer.

Val walked me through the work her team is doing with CRISPR to expose new ways of tackling tuberculosis, even the stubborn drug‑resistant strains. She also opened up about how the LifeArc fellowship is pulling her deeper into tech transfer, what she is learning about patents and partnerships, and why she thinks regulators need a seat at the table from day one.

Whether you spend your days at the bench or in an office turning ideas into products, Val’s story shows how a curious mind and a collaborative spirit can move discoveries out of the lab and into the world.


In This Episode:

[01:12] We learn about Dr. Faulkner's current research at the Francis Crick Institute studying mycobacterium tuberculosis. 

[01:50] At the systems chemical biology lab they are developing CRISPR-based molecular tools that we can use to precisely control and silence genes.

[02:13] This helps them understand the functional roles of genes in TB and response to antimicrobial drugs.

[03:05] The hope is that the research will uncover new drug targets and help combat antimicrobial drug resistance.

[03:46] Dr. Faulkner talks about the LifeArc Knowledge Transfer Innovations Fellowship. It helps teach scientists how to transition into careers within tech transfer. They get formal training and all aspects.

[05:14] She learned about the program by chance. LifeArc was at the Francis Crick for a career event. 

[06:15] Her diverse experience across academia, industry and regulatory labs has given her a holistic perspective on research translation.

[07:38] AUTM is a partner with the fellowship and gives them access to all of the online tools and learning centers. Along with excellent mentors and experienced professionals.

[08:40] Insights gained from the AUTM 50th event. It's amazing how many stakeholders are involved.

[09:37] Bridging the gap between scientific research and commercialization. The AUTM  Annual meeting has been crucial in facilitating knowledge exchange and networking.

[10:49] A key challenge is navigating the complicated IP landscape. 

[11:57] Dr. Faulkner is excited about advancements in antimicrobial drug discovery.

[13:04] Advice includes reaching out and asking questions and seeking things like fellowships. Be open to interdisciplinary collaborations.

[13:53] The future of research innovation will be shaped by strong academic and commercial partnerships.


Resources: 

Dr. Valwynne Faulkner - Francis Crick Institute

LifeArc


How TTOs Can Lead the Way on Inclusion and Neurodiverse Innovation with Andy Williamson30 Apr 202500:42:52

Building inclusive workplaces is not just good ethics, it is a major catalyst for innovation, creativity, and long term success. In this episode we take a closer look at how tech transfer offices can harness the untapped potential of neurodivergent talent and why doing so could transform not just individual careers but entire organizations.

My guest is Andy Williamson, founder of Welcome Brain Consulting a UK-based consultancy pioneering neurodiversity inclusion in workplaces worldwide. Andy has spent over a decade helping organizations rethink how they hire, train, and support neurodivergent individuals from private companies to public institutions. His work includes developing the UK Industry Standard Neurodiversity in Events Checklist and advising on strategies that make workplaces more welcoming and effective for all kinds of thinkers. 

Andy shares how TTOs can create hiring practices that break down barriers, design workspaces that support focus and creativity, and foster cultures where every mind is valued. He explains why adapting communication styles, offering small workplace adjustments, and tracking the right metrics can make a huge difference, and why the business case for neuro inclusion is just as strong as the moral one. This is a thoughtful and practical conversation for anyone serious about building innovation ecosystems leaving no talent behind.

 

In This Episode:

[02:07] Andy shares why he founded Welcome Brain and some services they provide.

[02:42] Andy talks about getting incredible results when tailoring learning for neurodivergent young people.

[03:52] They help organizations support neurodiverse individuals within that organization.

[04:25] They are currently working with the government with recruitment and hiring.

[05:10] As many children are getting diagnosed, so are their parents. There are many neurodivergent adults.

[07:37] Neurodiversity means thinking differently. This is what has made America great.

[08:53] TTOs are hubs for translating research into real world impact. There are certain skills inherent in neurodivergent people that can be really helpful with systems thinking and seeing things that others miss.

[10:23] Innovation is thinking differently. That's what neurodivergent people do. Incredible ideas and tremendous creativity.

[11:25] Neurodiverse teams can be more productive. Andy talks about roles that neurodivergent people would excel at.

[13:30] We talk about hiring and the recruitment process for neurodivergent people. The job description language, the screening process, and the interview process can filter out neurodivergent people.

[15:59] Interview skills aren't the same as the skills required for the job.

[16:24] Send interview questions in advance so people can prepare.

[18:10] Being neuro inclusive will make you more money. Retention rates are also higher.

[21:14] Office space and redesigning workspaces to increase focus. Things that can be done include creating acoustics around each zone.

[23:41] Fostering psychological safety for neurodivergent individuals to share their needs and avoid stigma. Seeing other neurodivergent people creates a sense of safety.

[27:28] Modeling inclusive behavior to shift team culture.

[28:17] Managers need to be involved and communication is key

[30:03] We learn about Welcome Brain's Certification Program. The initiatives need to be evaluated and measured.

[33:12] We discuss the Neurodiversity In Events Checklist.

[38:25] What TTOs should do to start creating neurodivergent inclusive environments.

 

Resources:

Welcome Brain Neurodiversity Consulting

Andy Williamson - Welcome Brain Neurodiversity Consulting

Welcome Brain - LinkedIn

Andy Williamson - LinkedIn

Neurodiversity In Events Checklist

The Future of Tech Transfer: Navigating Chaotic Innovation with Nick Webb23 Apr 202500:32:16

Innovation isn’t just evolving—it’s accelerating, fragmenting, and reshaping everything in its path. In this episode, we dive into what that means for the world of technology transfer, where traditional systems are being pushed to adapt or risk falling behind. If you’ve ever wondered how Tech Transfer Offices can keep up with the chaos of rapid innovation, this conversation will give you both clarity and direction.

Our guest is Nick Webb, a bestselling author, futurist, and innovation strategist who has worked with some of the world’s top brands and holds more than 40 patents. He’s written influential books like The Innovation Mandate and What Customers Crave and leads consulting work that helps organizations future-proof their approach to innovation. In this episode, he brings that expertise to the challenges and opportunities facing universities and research institutions today.

Nick talks about how TTOs can streamline operations, embrace smart automation, and build internal communication strategies that actually work. He shares how commercialization can be both profitable and socially impactful, how to better engage inventors in the process, and why building strong industry partnerships is no longer optional. It’s a fast-paced, eye-opening discussion for anyone working at the intersection of research and real-world impact.


In This Episode:

[01:44] His book, Chaotic Change was a look back at his 44 years in the innovation space. Things we're slow and small. When the internet came out everything was connected and digitized. Things became fast and big.

[02:37] TTOs need to develop best practices and technologies to handle the amount and volume of a super complicated landscape.

[03:02] With the AI shift and the next wave of chaos we'll see rapid adoption of new best practices, technologies, and systems.

[03:41] One of the biggest inefficiencies is bureaucracy.

[04:24] The importance of communicating to leaders and selling value as TTOs. The technology to accelerate is also important.

[05:09] Commercialization is the ultimate force of impact. 

[06:06] Nick runs an AI lab and talks about the impact of AI Tech Transfer. We also need to keep our real intelligence in the process.

[08:30] Nick talks about protecting IP for commercial success. Great strategic partners are a big help.

[09:53] This would be a good time to reevaluate policies to see if it's a document that will increase technology licensing.

[10:49] The importance of internal communication strategies for TTO offices.

[11:34] Innovation Superstar Bootcamp has a master's and a startup program. It's about making the complexity of innovation management fun and understandable.

[14:02] Striking the right balance between licensing startups and open Innovation models.

[15:43] Collaborations and making the best partnerships work.

[18:02] Practical steps to optimize operations without sacrificing impact. It starts with having a strategic plan.

[19:26] Getting researchers interested in the commercialization process and thinking beyond their labs.

[20:52] Lessons from Innovation Mandate that can be applied to TTOs to modernize their operations.

[21:43] Taking a triage approach towards everything.

[22:35] Don't waste time on technologies that don't stand a chance. Fast track methodologies. Sell your value proposition to get permission to move.

[24:05] Monetizing non-traditional IP assets.

[25:48] Trends to pay attention to. The experience ecosystem, the creation of AI artifacts, and business model innovations.

[27:52] The Importance of being able to sell your value.

[30:10] ESN an Enterprise Social Network.

[31:05] Predictions for the future include automation, being hyper technical, and hyper human.


Resources: 

Nick Webb

Webb Logic

Nicholas Webb - LinkedIn

Nicholas J. Webb - Facebook

The Innovation Mandate

What Customers Crave

Other Books

LeaderLogic, LLC

Innovation Superstar Bootcamp

The Healthcare Cure



Turning Worms Into Medicine: Dr. Andrea Choe on Innovation, Impact, and Tech Transfer16 Apr 202500:23:40

Could worms be the missing piece to treating allergies and autoimmune diseases? That’s the exciting idea that’s driving today’s guest, Dr. Andrea Choe, a scientist, doctor and biotech founder on a mission to change the way we think about human health.

Dr. Andrea Choe is the CEO and co-founder of Holoclara, a biotech company that’s changing how we treat allergies and autoimmune disorders. While working on her PhD at Caltech, Andrea discovered a unique pheromone language shared by roundworms which led to insights in evolutionary biology and immunology. Today her research is the foundation of Holoclara’s mission to help millions suffering from allergies and autoimmune disorders.

Today we’ll talk about how regions of the world where people live alongside worms have much lower rates of these conditions — and how Holoclara is working to tap into that evolutionary relationship in the form of safe, orally administered treatments. We’ll discuss the challenges of translating lab science into real world medicine, the regulatory hurdles of building a new class of drugs and why Andrea believes innovation should feel unconventional. And throughout it all she’s driven by one clear North Star: helping patients and families get relief.


In This Episode:

[01:52] Andrea shares how she made the roundworm discovery. Her thesis was on understanding the evolution of molecular

communication between worms. She ended up discovering the shared unique pheromone language.

[03:20] There were no allergies or autoimmune diseases before the 1900s.

[04:29] Holoclara reflects the idea of completeness. This is Andrea's driving philosophy in life.

[05:17] She believes that having a multidisciplinary approach to anything is always the best.

[06:23] We learn about some of the many challenges that Andrea and her company has gone through.

[09:43] They're trying to bring forward an entirely new class of medicine.

[13:06] We learn about Andrea's experience with tech transfer and collaboration between Caltech and industry.

[14:35] Approaching the regulatory path and listening to FDA guidance.

[17:14] We learn about the team at Holoclara from R&D to clinical development.

[18:25] The unconventional use of worms and innovation.

[20:33] The treatment possibilities are far reaching. 

[21:06] Andrea shares how she's always motivated. She's really interested in figuring out how to change lives and get rid of chronic debilitating diseases. 


Resources: 

Holoclara

Andrea Choe - Holoclara

Andrea Choe - LinkedIn

STEM in Action: How Project Lead The Way Is Changing Lives09 Apr 202500:40:21

What if STEM education wasn’t just about formulas and lab reports—but about solving real problems, transforming lives, and reshaping entire communities?

In this episode, we’re talking about how hands-on, project-based STEM education is making that vision a reality through Project Lead The Way, a nonprofit that’s helping millions of students across the U.S. become tomorrow’s changemakers.

From building bionic arms to redesigning city infrastructure, PLTW students and educators are showing us what’s possible when curiosity meets opportunity.

We’re joined by four awesome guests:

Dr. David Dimmett is the President and CEO of Project Lead The Way. With a background in education leadership and a love of lifelong learning, David shares how PLTW is giving students not just technical knowledge but real-world skills in problem-solving, communication and ethics.

Dr. Albert Manero is a PLTW alumnus and co-founder of Limbitless Solutions, a company that designs and delivers expressive, low-cost bionic arms for kids. Albert talks about how his early exposure to engineering through PLTW led him to a career focused on social impact and innovation.

Jason Huber is a PLTW instructor at Woodstock High School in Illinois where he teaches multiple engineering courses and advises a thriving robotics club. Jason gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how STEM education is changing the classroom experience—and helping students realize they can be inventors of their own future.

Liam Hansen is a PLTW graduate and current mechanical engineering student at the University of Tennessee. Along with his classmates, Liam led a community-changing project to improve walkability in his hometown and won the first-ever PLTW Community Impact Award. He shares what it’s like to turn classroom learning into real-world action.

Together we talk about mentorship, project-based learning and the kind of education that doesn’t just prepare students for jobs—but prepares them for life.


In This Episode:

[03:12] Project Lead the Way is a 501(c)(3), we're a nonprofit started over 25 years ago by one teacher in one high school in upstate New York, now working with over two and a half million students all across the country. The goal is to help young people get excited about and prepare for great careers through project-based hands-on learning.

[04:10] The focus is primarily on engineering, biomedical science, and computer science.

[05:01] They work with companies and global leaders to ensure the curriculum prepares students for great careers and lives.

[06:21] David was a high school English teacher. He worked his way into school administration and then got involved in Project Lead the Way. He loved the power of bringing relevance to the classroom.

[07:50] It's so powerful to see students get excited about learning.

[09:03] Albert has taken his Project Lead the Way experience and built something extraordinary with Limbitless Solutions.

[09:58] Why Albert chose to focus on prosthetics.

[12:13] Students with engineering backgrounds and Project Lead the Way experience have early exposure to 3D design, 3D modeling, and critical thinking skills.

[13:03] How Project Lead The Way helps prepare students for a collaborative environment.

[14:00] Jason and his class won the Project Lead The Way inaugural community impact award.

[14:51] Jason talks about the Walkability Project and why it was a real eye-opener for the kids. The students dedicated a whole year working on this capstone project.

[17:58] They faced many challenges and had to figure out how to recover and what to do. 

[18:26] It was also a challenge for the students to balance the demands of the project with their personal commitments.

[19:37] They had to investigate where the crosswalks and sidewalks were in the city and they made their own maps.

[20:09] The project also drew the attention of the International Design Shop.

[21:11] Jason was nervous during the presentation. He reminded the students that they were the experts in the room.

[23:04] The most rewarding part about teaching for Jason is the "aha" moments when he sees the lights go on for the kids.

[24:24] Liam shares his experience and how the Walkability Project became one of his top priorities.

[25:38] How projects like Project Lead The Way help students see a connection between their studies and real world applications. The students use real world technology. It's a hands-on project.

[27:36] Liam talks about the impact this program has had on his life. Now he's studying mechanical engineering at the University of Tennessee.

[29:04] Project Lead The Way helps take some of the mysteriousness out of things like engineering.

[30:37] How Project Lead The Way was able to make STEM more accessible and exciting for students. It makes learning fun and revolves around the process.

[32:03] Learning is the focus of growth. It's okay to fail.

[34:36] The teachers are working together to create a challenging and engaging experience for young people in their communities.

[35:46] Advice includes staying curious about how projects come together.

[36:10] Enjoy the unique hands-on aspect of the class.

[36:44] They focus on STEM, but there's also elements of art and design in the work. 

[37:47] There's no shortage of challenges for students to address.

[38:07] Technology is changing so fast that education needs to stay on top of it.

[38:59] Liam wants STEM education to be at the forefront so other kids can have the experience he had.


Resources: 

Project Lead The Way (PLTW)

Limbitless Solutions

David L. Dimmett - LinkedIn

Dr. Albert Manero - LinkedIn

Jason Huber - Woodstock High School team wins national PLTW Award

Liam Hanson - LinkedIn

AI, Diversity, and IP Policy: Navigating the Future with Former USPTO Director Kathi Vidal02 Apr 202500:37:31

I'm thrilled to welcome Kathi Vidal to the show today. Kathi has been at the forefront of IP policy, working to expand patent accessibility, and tackle some of innovation’s most pressing issues. As the former Undersecretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property and Director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, Kathi has spearheaded significant changes that reshaped how America approaches innovation. 

At the USPTO, she opened up patent accessibility by expanding the patent bar to include a broader and more diverse range of professionals. She also launched the Council for Inclusive Innovation and fundamentally transformed how the Patent Office interacts with inventors, making the system more approachable for everyone.

Now, as a partner at Winston & Strawn LLP, Kathi continues to influence intellectual property law and technology policy. With her deep background in electrical engineering, AI innovation, and leadership of IP practices at top law firms, she brings a unique and valuable perspective. 

In today’s episode, Kathi and I discuss how Tech Transfer professionals can navigate shifts in policy, leverage recent changes in patent law, and position their institutions to succeed in an increasingly competitive IP landscape. She’s one of the most influential voices in innovation and the perfect guest to join us as we celebrate Women’s History Month.


In This Episode:

[02:06] We learn about Kathi's background and how she was only one of three women in her engineering class. She was also inventing in the AI space in the 1990s.

[03:42] She was an inventor and saw the struggles of inventors. She drew on her own experience and other people's broader experiences. 

[05:34] She went into law to do the analytical work that she loved. It was all about the strategy and the technology for her.

[07:12]  At the USPTO, she wanted to harness the potential of the US government to help innovators and entrepreneurs.

[08:17]  At the law firm, she's working on some major AI projects with top AI engineers in the country.

[09:43]  Over the last 4 years at the USPTO, they protected US innovation.

[10:34] It was a top priority to make universities and tech transfer offices more accessible. 

[12:24] They changed the communication for inventors when applying for a US patent. They would welcome them to the ecosystem and let them know that they could use patent pending, along with resources and support for their journey.

[13:41] How tech transfer professionals can take advantage of changes such as expanding the patent bar to include more professionals from diverse backgrounds.

[14:49] Fake barriers were removed. 

[15:57] The approach Kathi took in private practice helped with their efforts at the USPTO. She was always looking at the whole ecosystem and how to improve it and make it better.\

[19:09] She launched the Council for Inclusive Innovation, also known as CI2, to help address gaps in innovation participation. They created the first ever national inclusion strategy.

[22:33] The role of university Tech Transfer offices in supporting women and underrepresented inventors is about making IP relatable to everyone.

[23:42] IP is the key to dispersing ideas and getting them to market. It protects your ideas so you can get it out to the public and get investments.

[25:18] How tech transfer offices should be thinking about protecting and licensing AI inventions. Anything AI should be protected. There needs to be human contribution documented. 

[28:25] What to watch out for in the IP landscape.

[30:57] Kathi is now here to help in a broader way. She is still thinking about policy and getting involved. 

[32:15] Advice is to continue to have a voice in the government and think about all your lovers when it comes to strategy and working together.

[33:29] Current trends relate to what's going on in government right now. Changes in funding and how investments in AI are going to be spent. Kathi is taking a close look making sure everyone is collaborating together.

[35:33] We learn about what's next for Kathi.


Resources: 

Kathi Vidal - Winston & Strawn LLP

Kathi Vidal - LinkedIn

Kathi Vidal - USPTO

Inventing Tomorrow: Unraveling the Impact of AI on IP with Kathi Vidal


Physics, Persistence, and the Nobel Prize: A Conversation with Dr. Anne L’Huillier26 Mar 202500:16:11

There aren’t many people in the world who can say they’ve changed the way we understand time itself, but today’s guest is one of them.

In this episode, I'm honored to welcome Dr. Anne L’Huillier, professor of atomic physics at Lund University and recipient of the 2023 Nobel Prize in Physics. She’s one of only five women in history to receive the Nobel in this category, and her groundbreaking work in attosecond physics is reshaping what’s possible in the study of electron dynamics.

But what makes Dr. L'Huillier truly remarkable isn’t just her scientific brilliance. It’s the way she leads with humility, dedication to teaching, and a deep passion for inspiring the next generation of scientists. When the Nobel committee called to deliver the news, she was in the middle of teaching a class, and she finished the lesson before calling them back.

In this conversation, we talk about the persistence it took to get where she is, what it means to be a woman in science today, and how her research is unlocking new frontiers in physics. Dr. L'Huillier is a trailblazer, a teacher, and a force of curiosity, and we’re so lucky to have her on the show.


In This Episode:

[01:02] An attosecond is a billionth of a billionth of a second. There are more attoseconds in a second than there are seconds in the age of the entire universe which is 13.8 billion years old.

[01:51] Dr. L'Huillier always wanted to be a scientist and follow in the footsteps of her father and grandfather. She had great teachers in atomic physics and quantum mechanics who kind of pushed her towards atomic physics and interactions between light and matter.

[03:09] She won the Nobel Prize for attosecond physics. She finished the class she was teaching before talking to the Royal Academy of Sciences when she was notified that she won.

[05:36] Teaching is a huge part of her work. She is now getting involved in more Nobel related activities.

[06:47] We talk about attracting more women to physics by getting rid of the idea and stigma that girls aren't interested in physics, engineering, or math.

[07:53] Students and young girls need to be encouraged to look at careers in science.

[08:22] She is working on using attosecond pulses and trying to use them to look at electron motion and electronic transition.

[09:20] They are researching quantum optics and using electrons as quantum objects and looking at complex systems like molecules, biomolecules, or condensed matter.

[10:22] We learn how Dr. L'Huillier had two other co-laureates who measured attosecond pulses.

[12:42] This work took 14 years. It's really important to be persistent, because research has ups and downs.

[13:59] We learn about what the future holds for Dr. L'Huillier. There may be a book on the horizon. 

[15:31] We talk about decompressing, having fun, the joys of family, and playing tennis!


Resources: 

Dr. Anne L'Huillier - Lund University 

Dr. Anne L'Huillier - Nobel Prize in Physics 2023

Anne L'Huillier, Nobel Prize in Physics 2023: Official Interview


Exposing Discrimination in Science: The Story of Nancy Hopkins and MIT with Kate Zernike19 Mar 202500:40:05

For Women’s History Month we welcome Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Kate Zernike, national correspondent for The New York Times. Kate has been reporting since 2000 on education, national politics and more. She is also the author of Boiling Mad: Inside Tea Party America and The Exceptions: Nancy Hopkins, MIT, and the Fight for Women in Science.

Kate’s latest book tells the inspiring and infuriating story of how a group of women scientists at MIT used data to expose gender discrimination and demand change. What started as a quiet frustration over lab space disparities turned into a landmark study that forced MIT’s leadership to confront bias. The university’s president publicly admitted to discrimination for the first time in the school’s history, sending shockwaves through the academic and STEM worlds. This moment proved the power of data, collective action and persistence in the fight for equality.

In this episode we will talk about how discrimination in STEM has evolved from outright exclusion to more subtle barriers that limit women’s opportunities. Kate’s insights will highlight the importance of representation, recognition and systemic change, and remind us that true equity goes beyond opening doors. It means actively supporting and amplifying women’s voices.


In This Episode:

[01:57] We're going to talk about Kate's book, The Exceptions, which focuses on Nancy Hopkins and a group of women at MIT who fought against discrimination.

[02:12] We learn about Kate's inspiration from her parents and her own experience. She met Nancy 20 years prior to deciding to do the book.

[04:37] Kate understood discrimination through the experience of her mother. She thought discrimination meant a door being closed in your face.

[06:17] Kate wrote a newspaper story about Nancy in March of 1999.

[07:26] MIT actually admitted that there was discrimination. This was after a study and gathering data that proves their point. They leaned into science. 

[08:48] Nancy measured the lab spaces and discovered that she had less lab space than men who didn't have tenure.

[09:41] Kate discovered that discrimination could be subtle and small and push women to the side.

[10:14] Leaders wanted to help the young ambitious men, but the women were mostly tolerated.

[12:23] Kate was struck by the intensity of Nancy Hopkins.

[15:06] Once the story became public, they were flooded with other female scientists who had similar stories.

[15:44] The power of collective action to try and achieve change. 

[16:40] This is the story that Kate wished she had when she first published the newspaper story. 

[17:17] Nancy becomes an extremely confident scientist. She assumed, if you do the work you'll get the job. She was alone for 20 years as she noticed little incidents of discrimination add up.

[18:30] She started to see how other women were treated and talked about. 

[20:26] 21st century discrimination is subtle, yet pervasive.

[23:29] Women often self-select out of STEM, they can also be pushed out.

[26:16] How The Exceptions is contributing to the broader conversation about women in STEM and changes to advocate for.

[28:30] As Kate's career evolved, she realized that the gradual marginalization over a career does happen.

[31:31] Some of the most significant strides made by women in science and challenges that need to be addressed. Women are doing incredible work. The issue is authority and giving women credit.

[34:10] We really need to recognize what women can do. It's important to talk to women who are doing interesting things and show the range of what they're doing.

[36:20] The book is really a story about the power of a group of women coming together and what they can do.. 


Resources: 

Kate Zernike

The Exceptions: Nancy Hopkins, MIT, and the Fight for Women in Science

Boiling Mad: Inside Tea Party America

Kate Zernike - New York Times

Kate Zernike - LinkedIn

Kate Zernike - Instagram

Kate Zernike - X


Protecting Tech Transfer And University Innovation Funding With Mike Waring12 Mar 202500:21:47

The future of research and innovation is on the line. Right now, universities across the country are facing significant funding cuts that could reshape the way groundbreaking discoveries move from the lab to the real world. These cuts threaten not just the researchers and students who rely on them, but the very foundation of our innovation economy. If you have ever wondered how new medicines, cutting-edge technologies, or even life-saving treatments come to exist, the answer often lies in Tech Transfer. Without proper funding, that process is at risk.

To unpack what is happening and what can be done, I am joined by someone who has spent nearly two decades fighting for research funding and intellectual property policy in Washington, D.C. Mike Waring. Mike is the Advocacy and Alliances Coordinator for AUTM. Before that, he spent 20 years leading the University of Michigan’s Washington office, working on Tech Transfer and policy issues at the highest levels. If anyone knows the ins and outs of how research funding decisions are made and what tech transfer professionals can do to advocate for their work, it is him.

In this episode, we get into the real stakes of these proposed budget cuts, what they mean for university innovation, and how Tech Transfer offices can better position themselves as indispensable assets on their campuses. We will also talk about the importance of storytelling in advocacy, why policymakers need to see the human side of research, and how even those who do not see themselves as lobbyists can play a role in protecting the future of tech transfer.


In This Episode:

[00:57] Mike Waring knows the ins and outs of advocacy in Washington better than most. He's been deeply involved in advocacy efforts for nearly 20 years.

[01:47] The strategy and focus for the conversations at Hill Day at the AUTM annual meeting. It was a great strategy to have members speak directly to people in DC.

[02:26] It was an opportunity to explain what we do and why tech transfer is so important.

[03:17] They want to put a cap on indirect costs such as lab infrastructure.  A 15% cap is far below what universities have negotiated. 

[04:25] A number of universities have raised red flags. Where will the money come to make up the difference in cost? We're going to make the case that an arbitrary number isn't the way.

[05:14] Simple and effective ways for Tech Transfer professionals to make their case to policy makers and University leadership. Make a case for the benefits to the local community.

[07:15] How Tech Transfer professionals can position themselves as an essential resource during discussions about funding and economic impact.

[08:46] Strengthening patent rights and what is eligible and what's not eligible. There's also another bill to try and fix problems with the patent appeals board.

[11:47] Hopefully, we can get most of these bills passed through the senate floor.

[12:12] Demonstrating impact when arguing the case against budget cuts. Look at your own track record including startups and discoveries. Show revenue, job creation, and innovation.

[14:15] It's easier for the head of the office to engage. If this isn't you, talk to your boss first. The director should have contact with the vice president of research. The federal relations people are your conduit for reaching the audiences for these issues.

[15:03] Include policy makers in events and showcase your progress. Put examples in their brain. When the battle is won, one policy maker at a time.

[16:11] Corporate partners can also help make the case on these issues.

[17:46] The budget deficit is quite large. The key is reducing the debt in a thoughtful way. We need more innovation not cutting back on growth potential.

[19:50] University presidents and CEOs can speak for the entire entity on these issues.

[20:19] America is the leader in innovation for a reason. We've empowered researchers to research on all kinds of topics. They've used federal funding and look at all of the benefits because of that. This is an investment that pays us back!


Resources: 

Mike Waring - AUTM

A Year of AUTM Advocacy with Mike Waring

Preparing for Potential Challenges


Redefining DEI in Innovation: Lily Zheng on the FAIR Framework for Tech Transfer05 Mar 202500:30:09

What happens when workplace equity efforts get lost in performative gestures? Today we’re talking about the conventional approach to workplace equity and the DEI landscape. As organizations face growing political pressure and increasing scrutiny of DEI programs, a more effective and outcome-driven approach has never been more urgent.

Lily Zheng is a strategist, consultant and author who helps build fair, accessible, inclusive and representative organizations. They are the creator of the FAIR framework which has been featured in the Harvard Business Review and their book Fixing Fairness will be out soon.

In this conversation, Lily will break down the limitations of traditional DEI models and why the FAIR framework (Fairness, Access, Inclusion, Representation) is a more defensible and better way to go. We’ll get into the four core principles of FAIR: outcomes, systems, coalitions and win-win solutions and how they provide a strategic foundation for lasting change in the workplace.

This is especially timely for university tech transfer offices. With new federal directives calling into question DEI initiatives in research funding, many institutions are scrambling to adapt without sacrificing their core values of inclusivity and innovation. Lily will give practical advice on how to navigate this, reframe programs to stay compliant without losing impact.


In This Episode:

[01:47] Lily suggests the FAIR Framework to replace DEI. They wanted to set apart effective DEI work from the fluff. The plan was to distill what did work and what didn't and packed what did work into a new framework.

[04:50] FAIR speaks to the goal of the work. The letters stand for fairness, access, inclusion, and representation.

[05:24] There are four principles behind the framework including outcomes, systems, coalitions, and win-win.

[07:38] DEI turned into splintered single issue causes. 

[08:39] We are stronger together, and coalitions are a hallmark of DEI work.

[01:47] Lily suggests the FAIR Framework to replace DEI. They wanted to set apart effective DEI work from the fluff. The plan was to distill what did work and what didn't and packed what did work into a new framework.

[04:50] FAIR speaks to the goal of the work. The letters stand for fairness, access, inclusion, and representation.

[05:24] There are four principles behind the framework including outcomes, systems, coalitions, and win-win.

[07:38] DEI turned into splintered single issue causes. 

[08:39] We are stronger together, and coalitions are a hallmark of DEI work.

[20:33] Tech Transfer offices can focus on FAIR and understand the law. Follow the law and make any necessary adjustments to your program. Defend the highly legal and effective work you are doing.

[24:41] If you have to change your language, make sure you don't change your impact.

[26:32] There are still great ways to be compliant.

[27:57] We have more than enough capacity, skill, caring, and generosity to do this work. It's up to us to continue to sustain impact.


Resources: 

Lily Zheng

What Comes After DEI?

The FAIR Framework

Reconstructing DEI: A Practitioner's Workbook

Lily Zheng - LinkedIn

Lily Zheng - Instagram

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Defending American Science: Holden Thorp on the NIH Funding Crisis and the Future of Research26 Feb 202500:39:04

Research doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It needs a foundation of stable funding, institutional support and policies that empower researchers to innovate. But today that foundation is under threat.

In this episode we dive into one of the biggest problems facing American research: the NIH funding crisis. On February 7th the National Institutes of Health (NIH) slashed indirect cost reimbursements from 50-60% to 15%. This has sent shockwaves through the academic and research communities. With this policy change universities across the country are facing an unprecedented financial squeeze and are having to re-budget, slow hiring and even rethink long-term projects.

Joining us today to break it all down is Dr. Holden Thorp, Editor-in-Chief of the Science family of journals and one of the most influential people in the world of science. With a career spanning chemistry, academic leadership and biotech innovation Dr. Thorp has been Chancellor of UNC-Chapel Hill, Provost at Washington University in St. Louis and co-founder of Viamet Pharmaceuticals. He’s also a strong advocate for scientific integrity and the role of universities in innovation.

We discuss how this funding issue may transform the US research scene, ranging from how it may affect universities to the potential of brain drain as top researchers consider migrating to Europe or China where funding is more stable. We address the lawsuit challenging the NIH policy and how uncertainty is already delaying significant projects such as Johns Hopkins' $330 million neuroscience facility and critical maternal health initiatives.

Dr. Thorp discusses whether universities should rely more on industrial relationships, or if this risks diluting curiosity-driven research. We also discuss how universities, organizations, and state governments might work together to put pressure on Congress and find strategic solutions. 


In This Episode:

[01:17] Explanation of the NIH’s February 7th directive, which capped indirect cost reimbursements at 15% instead of the usual 50–60%.

[02:05] Dr. Thorp breaks down the difference between direct and indirect research costs, using a cooking analogy to explain how universities rely on indirect cost recovery for infrastructure, lab maintenance, and tech transfer operations.

[04:12] How the federal government and universities developed a shared-cost model for research after World War II to encourage curiosity-driven discoveries.

[05:40] How funding uncertainty affects long-term projects. Risks to major initiatives like Johns Hopkins’ $330 million neuroscience facility and Michigan State’s maternal health programs.

[06:15] Many universities borrow against future indirect costs to finance construction. The new NIH policy threatens these financial models, potentially affecting bond ratings and making future research investments more expensive.

[07:32] Dr. Thorp explains how these funding cuts could drive top international researchers to Europe and China, where funding structures are more stable.

[10:22] Some universities are now adding caveats to admissions letters, warning that funding isn’t guaranteed. Risks of eroding trust in academia as a stable career path.

[12:29] Beyond litigation, universities must build coalitions with industry, nonprofits, and state governments to pressure Congress and prevent further damage.

[16:10] They have a Trump tracker with very up-to-date funding information. It's also in the Science Advisor newsletter. 

[17:15] The potential role of biotech firms and philanthropic ventures in filling funding gaps. Risks of diluting curiosity-driven research.

[20:23] Many HBCUs and regional universities rely heavily on NIH funding, and these cuts could exacerbate existing inequities in research capacity.

[24:28] Comparisons to the 2008 financial crisis, the 2013 sequestration, and other funding challenges. This situation is unique. 

[28:45] Can protests and public pressure force change? The impact of researcher protests, bipartisan pushback in Congress, and media scrutiny. 

[31:34] Dr. Thorp questions whether historically competitive universities will set aside differences and embrace shared research infrastructure and open-source models.

[33:04] Young researchers should stay the course, emphasizing that science is cyclical and funding priorities will shift again.

[34:53] It's important to talk about the economic impacts and issues with healthcare related to budget reductions.

[37:20] The scientific community’s ability to adjust and innovate will be key to weathering this storm.


Resources: 

Holden Thorp, Ph.D.

Dr. Holden Thorp - AAAS

ScienceAdvisor Newsletter

Dr. Holden Thorp - Columbian College of Arts & Sciences

Dr. Holden Thorp - LinkedIn

Engines of Innovation: The Entrepreneurial University in the Twenty-First Century

Our Higher Calling: Rebuilding the Partnership between America and Its Colleges and Universities



From Childhood Invention to Engineering Leadership with Dr. Tahira Reid Smith19 Feb 202500:42:57

Engineering is more than just numbers and equations—it’s about people, innovation, and solving real-world problems. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Tahira Reid Smith, an engineer, educator, and entrepreneur who is shaping the future of engineering through human-centered design. From childhood inspiration to groundbreaking research, she has dedicated her career to making technology more inclusive, effective, and meaningful.

Dr. Reid Smith is the Arthur L. Glenn Professor of Engineering Education and Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Penn State University. She is also the founder of Jump Dreams, Inc. and leads the Research in Engineering and Interdisciplinary Design Laboratory. Her expertise spans multiple fields, including psychology, social sciences, and engineering, to create solutions that put human needs first. In this conversation, she shares her journey from a childhood invention to industry collaborations with NASA and Procter & Gamble. She offers insights into innovation, diversity, and the role of persistence in engineering breakthroughs.

Join us as we talk to Dr. Reid Smith about her career, her work on diversity in STEM, and her entrepreneurial drive to bring big ideas to life whether you’re an engineer, entrepreneur, or just someone interested in how technology and design impact our world this episode is full of inspiration and practical advice.


In This Episode:

[01:48] The story of inventing the Double Dutch robotic device and how she became an engineer.

[02:29] When studying mechanical engineering, she remembered her third-grade dream and was inspired to start sketching ideas.

[03:32] She loved Double Dutch and wanted a machine that could turn ropes.

[04:21] Tahira always enjoyed math and science. She excelled and decided to major in mechanical engineering.

[06:49] We learn how attending Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute shaped her approach to engineering and innovation.

[07:27] There was a culture of design and entrepreneurship, and you were encouraged to get a patent. The Maker culture was common.

[08:57] We learn about human-centered design and why it's crucial. It's all about keeping the human at the center of the process.

[11:40] We learn about a collaboration that Tahira worked on at Purdue that looked at thermal properties of curly hair. The human consideration was looking at heat damage that black women could experience.

[14:03] Tahira breaks down how the interdisciplinary approach affects her process. It's common to bring in social science methods in design theory. Psychology and social science insights are very valuable.

[17:10] How technology transfer professionals can facilitate collaborations across different academic departments. Working with an interdisciplinary team might help answer questions you couldn't do alone.

[18:44] Tahira was also a teleworker at NASA from 2022 to 2021 in the Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Group.

[21:14] We learn about industry partnerships such as partnering with General Motors and Proctor and Gamble. Connections are helpful, but persistence is often times required.

[25:09] Tahira is a co-founder of Black in Engineering. Diversity helps reduce instances of bias and blind spots.

[28:55] Promoting diversity and inclusion. Be intentional when engaging with the faculty on campus. Is the database representative of the community's demographics?

[30:24] Compassionate design is a framework created to help engineers think about the dignity, security, and empowerment that users ought to feel when engaging with your creation.

[31:47] Ask questions about your product, such as whether it will create embarrassment or how someone will feel using it.

[32:55] Tahira has over 60 articles published. Academic publishing brings credibility to the role that you're doing, primarily peer-reviewed articles.

[34:15] Having published work on your idea will give you an edge when standing before investors.

[35:02] We learn more about Jump Dreams, Inc.'s founding and the Double Dutch jump rope invention.

[38:13] Don't just stay within the walls of your university go out and do outreach. Reach out to the younger generation and show them what's possible.

[39:10] Generative AI and Artificial Intelligence are impacting everyone right now. 

[40:25] Tahira is excited about a project she's working on that's designed to help the elderly and another one to help increase situational awareness for firefighters and police officers.


Resources: 

Dr. Tahira Reid Smith

Jump Dreams, Inc

The REID Lab @ Penn State

Dr. Tahira Reid Smith - PennState

Dr. Tahira Reid Smith - Instagram

Dr. Tahira Reid Smith - Inventor Spotlight

Dr. Tahira Reid Smith - LinkedIn

Dr. Tahira Reid Smith - The Lemelson Foundation

Black in Engineering


The Hidden Influence of Inventions on Humanity with Dr. Ainissa Ramirez12 Feb 202500:24:39

Science isn’t just about discovery; it’s about transformation. In this episode, I talk to Dr. Ainissa Ramirez, an award-winning scientist, author, and science advocate who wants science to be for everyone. From her childhood of taking things apart to her work in materials science, Dr. Ramirez shares how curiosity and representation shaped her journey.

Her book The Alchemy of Us explores how materials like clocks, steel rails, and copper cables advanced technology and changed human behavior in unexpected ways. We’ll talk about the unintended consequences of innovation, from how artificial light affects our health to how AI is changing the way we think. Dr. Ramirez also shares her thoughts on diversity in STEM and the power of storytelling in making science relatable.

Whether you’re a scientist, an innovator, or just curious about the world around you, this episode will make you rethink technology’s place in our lives. Listen in for an interesting conversation that spans history, science, and human experience.


In This Episode:

[00:43] Dr. Ainissa Ramirez is an award-winning scientist, author, and passionate science communicator.

[01:33] Her love for science was inspired when she was young. She loved taking things apart and asking questions. And she also loved watching the PBS program 321 Contact.

[03:02] Material science is between chemistry and physics. Everything has to do with the interaction of atoms. She went on to graduate school and worked at Bell Laboratories.

[04:34] Bell Laboratories is where she developed her research skills, and it took her from graduate school to the next level, where she went on to Yale.

[05:49] The Alchemy of Us focuses on how eight inventions have shaped humanity.

[06:28] She wants to share how important material science is to other people. She thought the best way to do that was to show the impact on humanity.

[07:32] We learn about the book's origin story, which involves glass blowing.

[08:27] She wanted something from history that was made possible because a specific material existed or didn't exist. Then, she added the origin story and the impact of the material.

[10:19] Her favorite chapter was the last one. It's about how computers are altering the way we think. 

[11:30] How looking at simple technologies will prepare us to ask questions about technology we won't be able to understand, such as AI.

[12:34] Lights actually shape our health. Our bodies have a daytime mode and a nighttime mode. Shift workers working under a blue fluorescent light have their health affected.

[14:09] Diverse groups make better solutions. It's important for us all to have mentors. We also need to support people interested in STEM, even if they don't have a strong background.

[15:27] Representation needs to be supported with longevity.

[16:39] The function of racism is a distraction. Barriers should never stop us from doing the work we're meant to do.

[17:12] Technology is everywhere. We need to have an understanding of the things around us. Critical thinking and being curious are very important.

[18:09] Getting people excited about science includes telling good stories and making the material accessible.

[19:10] Science is a story.

[20:03] Tech Transfer people are well-positioned to know what the good stories are. They not only see the science and the concept, but they also see how it's useful.

[21:05] The thing in front of her is what's most exciting now. Each step was compelling. Don't study alone, and always get a tutor. Be brave and ask questions.

[22:19] She has a series of children's books coming out. 


Resources: 

Dr. Ainissa Ramirez

The Alchemy of Us

Science Underground Podcast

Dr. Ainissa Ramirez - LinkedIn

321 Contact


Breaking the Silence on Mental Health in Technology Transfer with Megan Aanstoos, Anji Miller, and Ed Ergenzinger05 Feb 202500:56:02

In the fast-paced world of Tech Transfer, we work to close the gap between great research and real-world impact. But behind the scenes, many of us face high pressure, high expectations, and a profession that’s often misunderstood. Today we’re breaking the silence on a critical but often overlooked issue—mental health in tech transfer.

In this episode, we’ll talk about the unique challenges we face, from imposter syndrome and burnout to the stigma around mental health in the workplace. Most importantly we’ll discuss how to create a culture of well-being in Tech Transfer offices (TTOs) and what leadership can do to drive real change.

Three amazing guests are joining us, and they bring diverse expertise and personal experience to this important conversation. Megan Aanstoos is the Senior Program Officer for VentureWell where she supports teams in the Rapid Acceleration of Diagnostics (RADx) programs, an initiative at the intersection of science and social impact. Megan is also on the Board of AUTM and has led the charge on diversity, equity, and inclusion (EDI) education in the knowledge transfer community.

Anji Miller is the Senior Academic Engagement Partner and Director of the LifeArc Fellowship Programmes. A seasoned Tech Transfer professional, Anji leads initiatives on gene therapy innovation and STEM outreach programs and is on the boards of AUTM and ASTP. As an EDI advocate, she is involved in policy engagement and skills development in tech transfer.

Dr. Ed Ergenzinger, JD, PhD is a patent lawyer, neuroscientist, and adjunct professor whose personal experience with bipolar disorder has shaped his work as a mental health advocate. With over 20 years of patent law experience, Ed writes and speaks about mental health issues in the legal and tech transfer professions and has even developed a law school course on mental health and wellness.

Together we’ll discuss how mental health affects productivity, what Tech Transfer can learn from other high-pressure professions like law, and why leadership matters in creating a workplace that prioritizes well-being. We’ll also talk about how the pandemic changed the conversation around mental health—and why we need to keep talking.

It’s time to move beyond silence and stigma and take real steps towards a healthier tech transfer community.


In This Episode:

[03:46] Why mental health in Tech Transfer has received less attention than it has in other fields includes lack of infrastructure and stigma, because of the requirement to survive in a high-pressure environment.

[05:25] The unique nature of tech transfer work. We talked about imposter syndrome and putting your own health at risk to excel in the profession.

[07:22] We discuss parallels between mental health in tech transfer and legal professions. There are initiatives that Tech Transfer could draw from.

[10:19] We discuss how poor mental health has negative effects on productivity.

[13:25] Pressure is increased because there's no one to cover for the tech transfer professional. The work is so individual and specialized.

[14:13] We talk about how the pandemic affected people in Tech Transfer and how it continues to affect them.

[17:57] How diversity inclusion efforts can inform our approach to mental health and TTOs.

[20:28] Inclusivity and making people feel valued for who they are creates a safe environment.

[21:02] How TTOs can better support the mental health of their staff and people around them.

[25:28] Things that TTO leaders can do to create a culture that prioritizes mental health include leading by example.

[30:58] Practical strategies that TTOs can implement to promote better mental health for their employees in this current political environment.

[33:01] Health and wellness programs need to be geared toward particular employees. Leaders need to listen and understand what they're going through.

[43:39] It's important to remain flexible and not to put together cookie-cutter policies.

[44:05] Things to look out for that might indicate a mental health challenge.

[46:11] Creating an environment where someone feels safe enough to speak out about their concerns without fear of stigma or retaliation.

[49:25] Megan would like to see the breaking down of the stigma that mental health isn't real health.

[51:23] Ed would like to see something similar to the mindful business charter with smart meetings, respecting rest periods, and openness and respect.

[52:14] Anji talks about the importance of respecting individuality to keep the best people on the team and advocate for continuous Improvement.


Resources: 

Megan Aanstoos - VentureWell

Megan Aanstoos - LinkedIn

Anji Miller - LifeArc

Anji Miller - LinkedIn

Dr. Ed Ergenzinger

Dr. Ed Ergenzinger - LinkedIn

Breaking the Silence: Mental Health in Technology Transfer


Recommended reading:

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Empowering Inventors: Insights from Carmine Denisco of the United Inventors Association29 Jan 202500:30:44

What does it take to turn a great idea into a market ready product? This week on AUTM on the Air we have Carmine Denisco, president of the United Inventors Association (UIA) to talk about the journey of independent inventors. With over 100,000 members worldwide the UIA is a non-profit dedicated to providing resources, education and advocacy to inventors and ethical partnerships.

In this episode, Carmine shares valuable advice for tech transfer professionals and inventors. From overcoming intellectual property challenges to manufacturing and commercialization he offers practical tips and real-world examples. He also talks about the importance of slowing down, doing your market research and getting the right support to avoid the common pitfalls.

Whether you’re an independent inventor, an entrepreneur, or part of the innovation ecosystem, this episode is packed with strategies to help you succeed. 


In This Episode:

[01:36] The United Inventors Association has been around since the late 1980s. It's also a 501c3 non-profit. 

[02:30] The UIA mission is to help empower, educate and give resources and connections to inventors. 

[03:25] They have service providers and people who can help traverse the sequence of taking a product from idea to market.

[04:08] Intellectual Property is so important and a great tool.

[05:27] Inventors face many challenges including making sure the idea has legs and education, knowledge, and experience. Talking to the right people can be a challenge.

[08:52] What tech transfer professionals should know about working with individual inventors as opposed to university researchers. 

[10:20] Time and balancing everything are our big challenges.

[11:07] There's a time and a sequence for getting a patent. UIA tries to slow things down and put the right IP in the right place.

[14:25] The product needs to be made at the right place for that product at that time.

[15:04] UIA tries to slow things down and find the right places to innovate. 

[16:11] UIA works off of donations and volunteers. A lot of inventors give back. They don't charge for membership yet. 

[18:22] The role that partnerships play at UIA and how they advocate for inventors.

 [19:34] UIA is educating inventors and helping to make connections and offer resources to keep them on track. 

[21:25] Advice for universities and institutions to help inventors and students. Take an outside inventor and create a program about that. Get everyone involved from business to marketing.

[24:36] Top educational priorities include checking the market. Educate yourself on the process of taking something to market. Look at legal and know the processes. 

[27:19] Carmine talks about outreach programs that have worked well. 

[28:25] We learn what the UIA has planned for 2025 and beyond.


Resources: 

Carmine Denisco - United Inventors Association

Carmine Denisco - LinkedIn

Earmark Sourcing

From Lab to Launch- Key Strategies for Accelerating Drug Discovery in Tech Transfer With Elizabeth Douville22 Jan 202500:29:59

The process of transforming cutting-edge academic research into life-changing therapies is often described as moving from bench to market. Joining us today is Elizabeth Douville, President and CEO of Iricor, a cancerology and immunology research valorization center based at the University of Montreal.

Elizabeth is a leader who connects academic, industry and government ecosystems. She has a passion for scientific research and a track record of turning university innovations into biotech companies. She’s a force to be reckoned with in the life sciences.

In this episode we’ll talk about how Iricor is tackling drug development, de-risking early stage innovation and commercializing promising therapies. We’ll also talk about bridging the infamous “Valley of Death” where so many projects go to die and how collaboration, entrepreneurial thinking and adaptability are the keys to success. Tune in for a behind the scenes look at innovation and the future of life-changing therapies.

In This Episode:

[01:54] Why the gap between academic innovation and commercialization often referred to as the "valley of death". The reality is that this is the place where projects go to die.

[02:35] There can be problems with funding, technical validation, or market potential.

[03:08] We learn the critical components for a successful drug discovery commercialization strategy that can be used by Tech Transfer offices.

[05:13] You can't develop a drug and commercialize it on your own. Innovation takes a village.

[06:07] We learn tactics and frameworks for de-risking projects. You need to go through the education process, do your homework, and sit down with the researcher.

[07:22] Working collaboratively on the development path and having proof of concept can help get additional funding and move the innovation along. Each step should mitigate risk and make the technology more attractive.

[08:43] Advice for TTOs and creating strong collaborations. Being a not-for-profit organization enables entities to apply for government aid and programs.

[11:16] Approaching market assessment and validation to ensure commercial viability of a project. Access market intelligent databases for an early understanding of potential. 

[12:23] Networking and knowing people in the industry and going to conferences is another part that will help with market assessment.

[13:54] Prioritizing projects to maximize impact and balancing resource allocation. There are challenges but in the end they want to get new drug modalities to the patients.

[15:58] Approaches to secure funding. Being a not-for-profit entity is the key to be eligible for programs. Be creative and leverage what's in your system from alumni to philanthropy.

[18:11] Keys to collaboration include flexibility, agility, and understanding.

[19:29] Elizabeth shares an example of an Iricor project that they helped to commercialize. The journey can be long and you have to be mindful of the IP. 

[24:29] Best practices to follow without IP conflicts include making sure everybody's sitting at the table with the Pharma partner when everything comes together.

[26:04] Empowering academic researchers to think like entrepreneurs. Universities have a big role to play when it comes to fostering an entrepreneurial mindset.

[27:47] Advice for building a culture of innovation and collaboration within a TTO office includes leading by example and having an entrepreneurial and solution oriented mindset.

Resources: 

Iricor

Elizabeth Douville - LinkedIn


2025 Predictions for the IP, Tech Transfer, and AI Landscapes With Eli Mazour15 Jan 202500:42:50

At the beginning of this new year and a new administration, we wanted to examine what trends, challenges, and opportunities lie ahead for technology transfer professionals and IP practitioners.

My guest is Eli Mazour, an intellectual property attorney with Foley & Lardner LLP and host of the Clause 8 podcast. Eli is known for his intricate understanding of the patent system and his unique ability to help clients build valuable, litigation-ready patent portfolios that drive business goals. He’s also a trusted voice on patent policy and legislative developments.

Eli and I discuss predictions for how the new administration could shape patent and intellectual property policy, the potential direction of Congress on patent reform, and how cutting-edge technologies like AI are influencing IP strategy.

If you work in Technology Transfer, you won’t want to miss Eli’s expert take on how these changes might impact your office’s priorities, partnerships, and patent portfolios.


In This Episode:

[02:00] It's going to be an interesting new year with a new administration.

[03:02] Major factors and big players shaping IP in 2025. Howard Lutnick will be in charge of the Commerce Department which oversees the PTO.

[05:05] Past policy proposals rolled out to theoretically reduce drug prices. There is a huge backlog for examining patent applications.

[07:38] There's also going to be openings for improvements on the hill.

[09:45] Innovators need some type of predictable logic with patents.

[12:14] The revised guidance at the USPTO was a huge benefit.

[13:02] How the balance between innovation incentives and market competition will evolve under the new administration.

[14:48] It's interesting how they're looking for more innovators in the defense space. Companies don't want to lose all of their IP to the government.

 [15:43] The importance of creating an ecosystem that supports innovation and allows innovators to keep their IP rights.

[17:19] How the march-in rights issues changed the discussion about making investments.

[18:16] Sectors that will probably have heightened patent activity or regulatory focus.

[22:29] How will the next administration approach AI-related intellectual property issues?

[27:57] Eli talks about AI tools for drafting and prosecution. Rooney

[29:00] A lot of stuff to save an attorney's time could be done through automation.

[31:16] It takes a lot of time to clean up AI-related work, but it could help make applications more robust.

[32:29] Eli talks about the types of tools that he's excited about.

[34:04] What policymakers should think about the impact of AI driven Innovations on IP Frameworks.

[37:17] Eli's top recommendations he would share with Congress for strengthening Innovation and protecting inventors.

[38:51] Possible bipartisan opportunities for reform.

[40:15] Hopefully, we'll see an emphasis on allowing innovators to be more secure in the rights that they came up with.

[41:17] A big innovation trend includes companies trying to figure out how to make AI work for them.


Resources: 

Eli Mazour - Foley & Lardner LLP

Eli Mazour - LinkedIn

Clause 8 Podcast


Fostering America's Inventive Spirit: The Invention Education Program at Sacramento State08 Jan 202500:50:32

CSUS Sacramento or Sacramento State is part of the California State University system, the largest public university system in the US with over 450,000 students across 23 campuses in California. We all know that the journey of invention and innovation starts with education and Sacramento State is leading the way with their Invention Education Program.

This class is based on the Lemelson-MIT program. It’s designed to have students tackle real-world challenges. This transdisciplinary program is all about inclusivity, diversity, and the power of invention to create meaningful change. Joining us today are four amazing guests who each play a key role in this inventive spirit.

Dr. Christopher Rogers is a professor at Sacramento State and lead of the transdisciplinary Invention Education course. With years of experience in innovation through education, Dr. Rogers helped design a curriculum that develops technical and entrepreneurial skills as well as community engagement and social responsibility in his students.

Rafael Gacel-Sinclair is a Technology Transfer Officer for the Office of Innovation & Technology Transfer (OITT) at Sacramento State. Rafael is key in aligning the Invention Education Program with the university’s overall innovation and commercialization goals. His work ensures the program is the bridge between academic learning and real-world application, so students can see their ideas come to life.

Stephanie Couch, Executive Director of the Lemelson-MIT Program, also joins us. Stephanie is on a mission to democratize invention education. She has been instrumental in expanding access to programs that empower diverse learners to engage with the invention process. Her work ensures the benefits of innovation reach underrepresented groups in STEM and creates pathways for new voices and ideas in the field.

Michael Cima, Faculty Director of the Lemelson-MIT Program, brings his expertise in innovation, education, and mentorship. A professor and inventor himself, Michael ensures programs like the Invention Education initiative are research-based and practical. He’s committed to cultivating inventive thinking so students can tackle the big challenges with confidence and creativity.


In This Episode:

[04:29] The Lemelson-MIT Program was started about 30 years ago with generous funding from the Lemelson Foundation. The original mission was to inspire young people to live creative and inventive lives.

[05:18] Prizes were awarded to inventors. About 10 years ago, they began working on inventor education. They began awarding High School inventors and letting them take the project to MIT. They have a diverse group of people who have earned patents.

[07:23] They also begin researching the pathway to becoming an inventor and developing more inventors. They are now focused on developing the next generation of leading innovators.

[08:12] University collaborators are needed to nurture inventors.

[09:23] Stephanie talks about the many programs for young inventors.

[11:41] The Invention Education Program works with higher education faculty and staff to develop their understanding of the invention process and practices. Schools are motivated to offer things to students that will be meaningful in their futures. They are inventing classes that will offer college credit.

[14:38] Christopher had worked at Lemelson. He became excited about seeing diverse students interested in STEM and learning about becoming an inventor. 

[17:08] Students are imagining the world where they are actively designing the process. 

[18:21] He realized that invention education was a way for people to save people and was interested in bringing this program to Sac State.

[20:46] With his background in social sciences, Christopher knew that the community and team aspect of inventorship was something he was very interested in.

[22:43] Christopher explains more about the invention education course and how it's going to be a two-semester original transdisciplinary course.

[27:31] Students are loving the program so far.

[31:44] Sacramento State Office of Innovation and Technology Transfer, OITT has a mission to manage, protect, and commercialize Sacramento State IP, and educate faculty, staff, and students about IP, while encouraging them to invent, create, and innovate.

[37:05] The Rapid Brands story. From Sac State to Davis to Shark Tank and selling microwave cookers worldwide. This program will create more successful students just like the Rapid Brands creator Chris Johnson.

[40:06] Tech Transfer offices need to do more to teach their students about IP, inventing, innovating, and starting businesses.

[41:39] Invention education programs from Lemelson-MIT and Sacramento State will help close the gender and ethnic gaps in inventorship.

[46:29] If you want to learn more you can always contact Stephanie at SCouch@mit.edu


Resources: 

Dr. Christopher Rogers - Sacramento State

Rafael Gacel-Sinclair - LinkedIn

Stephanie Couch - Lemelson-MIT

SCouch@mit.edu

Michael Cima - Lemelson-MIT

Lemelson-MIT

Partners In Invention Education

Pathways to Invention

Customer Discovery in Tech Transfer: Ensuring Innovations Meet Industry Demands with Kate Havey19 Dec 202400:33:27

Getting groundbreaking technology from the lab to the market is no easy task, and it’s a challenge that every Tech Transfer professional understands well. While university Tech Transfer offices are often measured by the number of licenses executed, success isn't just about numbers; it's about ensuring the technologies developed truly meet market needs.

Kate Havey, the Assistant Director of Licensing at Venture Partners at CU Boulder, Is here to help us explore this topic. She brings a wealth of experience in research, teaching, and intellectual property management. She’s worked on everything from biomedical innovations to electric vehicle batteries. In our conversation, we dive into how early engagement with industry can help steer research in the right direction. Kate shares her insights on customer discovery, and starting these conversations before or at the proposal stage can make all the difference in ensuring that the technologies we create solve real-world problems.

We also explore the reality that while some innovations may seem groundbreaking, industry often needs practical, financially viable solutions. Kate discusses CU Boulder’s approach to fostering relationships with researchers through programs that refine technologies, debunking misconceptions about what industry really needs, and highlighting the importance of building strong ecosystems to support market-ready technologies. This conversation underscores the need to align both people and processes to make tech transfer truly effective.

In This Episode:

[01:58] We kick off with the biggest challenge aligning university innovation with market needs. It revolves about embracing the concept of customer discovery early in the process.

[02:28] Having customer discovery questions early in the process is key.

[03:39] Early means having conversations before or at the proposal stage.

[04:02] The importance of looking at what you're trying to achieve when increasing invention disclosures. Encouraging disclosure increases inventor engagement.

[05:05] Technology has to be ready for the market if it's going to be adopted.

[06:11] Kate shares an example of something that was too early for market. Their entry level program is called Starting Blocks, and it dives into customer discovery. Going out and finding the pain points. This process ensures an innovation that companies actually need.

[07:21] A technology developed by Dr. Rich Noble that developed ionic liquids for gas separation. They were able to switch focus. Early customer discovery helps develop a better product.

[11:28] The importance of patience and perseverance.

[12:27] The program helps ask the right discovery questions and teaches a framework for presenting ideas.

[13:31] There's a pipeline of programs which leads to deeper dives into customer discovery.

[15:26] Kate started the Translational Research Summit Series at CU which brings together PIs, companies, entrepreneurs, investors, and policy makers.

[16:47] Common misconceptions about what industry wants include the idea of just building it and there will be a market.

[17:40] Industry's view involves the idea of making money.

[18:24] Tech Transfer people need to find a way to have conversations about aspiration versus pragmatism.

[19:36] Kate shares advice for prioritizing market goals.

[21:46] The role the local innovation ecosystem plays in cultivating market ready technologies.

[24:21] Kate shares how CU Boulder fosters an environment that bridges the gap between research and commercialization.

[27:08] Kate pulls out her crystal ball and looks ahead and tells us what she's most excited about in the future. Large and small industries are becoming more excited about taking a role in university research.

[29:22] Being available for each step of the process is an emerging Tech Transfer role.

[30:05] The importance of aligning technologies for industry needs and aligning people and relationships with the broad process of Tech Transfer.

Resources: 

Kate Havey - CU Boulder

Kate Havey - LinkedIn


Adapting to Change: Insights on Europe’s Unitary Patent System with Robert Alderson and Mariella Massaro11 Dec 202400:44:10

In 2024, the European patent system is undergoing one of its most significant transformations in decades. The introduction of the Unitary Patent and the Unified Patent Court is reshaping how intellectual property is protected and enforced across Europe. For innovators and businesses alike, this marks a pivotal moment—one that promises streamlined processes but also introduces new complexities. Today, we’re exploring what these changes mean and how they might impact the future of innovation.  

Joining me for this fascinating discussion are two renowned experts in intellectual property law, Robert Alderson and Mariella Massaro, partners at Berggren, a leading European IP firm. Both Robert and Mariella bring unique perspectives and deep expertise to our conversation. Robert is a rare hybrid in the IP world, qualified to practice before the United States Patent and Trademark Office, the European Patent Office, and now the Unified Patent Court. With more than 20 years of experience spanning two continents, he offers a nuanced understanding of both U.S. and European patent practices.  

Mariella’s career has been equally impressive. A Certified Licensing Professional and recognized IP strategist, she has nearly two decades of experience navigating the complexities of IP litigation and commercial transactions. Her work with clients preparing for the Unitary Patent system highlights the practical challenges—and opportunities—that lie ahead. From pharmaceuticals to fashion, her portfolio reflects the wide-reaching implications of this new patent framework.  

Together, Robert and Mariella will break down what you need to know about the Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court, offering insights on how to prepare, adapt, and thrive in this evolving landscape. Whether you’re an inventor, an entrepreneur, or simply curious about the future of innovation, you won’t want to miss this episode.


In This Episode:

[04:22] Mariella shares an example of what UPC is now. She talks about Seoul Viosys Co., Ltd. and Seoul Semiconductor Co., Ltd., v. Expert Klein GmbH, expert e-Commerce GmbH, Düsseldorf (DE) LD.

[05:06] The UPC court is very fast. 

[08:56] Mariella talks about another case, 10X Genomics and Harvard v. Nanostring, that sets the criteria for claims interpretation for validity and infringement.

[10:00] Robert talks about Sanofi v. Amgen. This was the first successful revocation action at the UPC. If you're going to file a patent in the US and Europe, you have to satisfy the different requirements.

[12:38] The application of the doctrine of equivalents at the UPC.

[13:45] What happens when there is a UPC action that is conducted in parallel with the EPO opposition? Astellas versus Herios. 

[15:41] Focusing on unitary patents and filing and prosecution strategy. There has been an uptick in unitary patents.

[16:29] Robert talks about the transitional period in unitary patents.

[19:41] AIM Sport versus Suponor. Some of these issues are only for the transitional period.

[22:02] If the national patent application strategy is going to be used, it's important to understand which countries you can use the PCT route and which countries you can't.

[22:34] How TTOs can use this transitional period to balance the risk. Use a unitary patent with the broadest possible claims, and then file a divisional application and classically validate that patent.

[24:22] We learn about literal double patenting. This is only available under specific circumstances.

[26:50] This strategy is being utilized in the US currently.

[27:14] What TTOs need to know when licensing their patent portfolios in Europe. Make sure all of your rights in the ownership agreement are addressed specifically.

[37:33] How representation of joint owners before the EPO and UPC work.

[38:13] The first applicant listed is considered the common representative.

[40:33] Robert and Mariella share what they think TTOs should look out for in 2025.


Resources: 

Robert Alderson - Berggren

Robert Alderson - LinkedIn

Mariella Massaro - Berggren

Mariella Massaro - LinkedIn

Autm Annual Meeting In March


Redefining Leadership: How CIOs Are Leading Universities into the Future with Kimberly Gramm and Glen Gardner04 Dec 202400:51:03

The role of Chief Innovation Officer is transforming the way universities approach innovation and entrepreneurship. Once confined to the corporate world, this position is now becoming a cornerstone of academic leadership, enabling institutions to centralize their efforts around economic growth, interdisciplinary collaboration, and societal impact. Universities like MIT, Penn State, and Tulane are embracing this change, appointing CIOs to streamline activities across departments and amplify their influence on both campus and community.

Today, I’m joined by Kimberly Gramm, Chief Innovation and Entrepreneurship Officer at Tulane University, and Glenn Gardner, President of Gardner Innovation Search Partners. Kimberly is a powerhouse in early-stage technology development, having overseen the creation of over 300 startups that collectively raised $470 million in investment capital. At Tulane, she is building an entrepreneurial pipeline and leading initiatives like the NSF-funded Fuel project, a $160 million effort focused on energy transformation. 

Glenn, with over 24 years of experience in recruiting innovation leaders, provides valuable insights into how this role is evolving and what it takes to succeed in bridging academia and industry.

In this episode, we unpack the strategies behind fostering innovation ecosystems, breaking down silos in academic settings, and creating seamless partnerships between universities and industry. They explore how CIOs are reshaping university culture, driving technology commercialization, and addressing some of today’s most pressing societal challenges.

We dive deep into the growing importance of the Chief Innovation Officer, offering a fresh perspective on how universities can maximize their potential and lead the way in global innovation.


In This Episode:

[00:52] The role of CIO or Chief Innovation Officer is gaining traction in universities. 

[03:47] Kimberly breaks down what started the shift in academia.

[07:06] Glen shares what he's seen including breaking down silos. 

[08:18] In academia the focus is on research and education and societal impact. Goals include fostering interdisciplinary collaboration.

Success is also measured through longer term outcomes.

[09:47] The mission of academia and academia innovation is impact. It's also about finding and retaining the best faculty.

[11:29] The vice provost for research can focus on research while the CIO can focus on innovation.

[12:17] Having a CIO helps streamline decision making and coordination.

[14:21] Kimberly talks about focusing on societal needs.

[15:25] According to Glenn, de-risking is moving more towards the universities, and the tech transfer and corporate engagement offices are working more closely together.

[19:05] Seamless integrated innovation breeds success.

[20:12] It's important to find out who has the relationship with industry and find the problems that need solving.

[21:02] NIH and NSF funding is going down, so it's more important than ever to have industry collaborations. 

[21:47] Kimberly shares an example of this in action where they have a cooperative agreement with the technology development arm of the energy engine in Louisiana. They were given $160 million and the state matched another 68 million.

[24:54] Kimberly outlines support and alignment for the CIO role in universities. She has worked at three different universities. Strong leadership support and executive backing is first and foremost. Defining metrics is also critical.

[28:39] Glenn emphasizes the importance of executive buy-in.

[31:05] The board at Tulane wanted to participate in innovation and entrepreneurship. This led to a framework of success and putting the right puzzle pieces in place.

[37:11] Specific strategies for implementing a CIO at a university. Number one is building trust in relationships.

[41:45] Glenn talks about how a hospital system views Innovation compared to a university.

[42:51] Glenn talks about how this role is necessary to keep up. The bar is raised. Even organizations that don't have this role, have people acting in the role.

[44:07] Glenn shares the qualities that make an ideal CIO. It's a diverse skill set. We need more people from the business side.

[46:05] It's about change management expertise and cultural transformation in complex organizations.


Resources: 

Kimberly Gramm, MBA, PhD - Tulane University Innovation Institute

Kimberly Gramm, MBA, PhD - LinkedIn

Glen Gardner - Gardner Innovation Search Partners

Glen Gardner - LinkedIn

The Rise of the University Chief Innovation Officer


Suspenders4Hope: How Tech Transfer Is Helping Transform Lives20 Nov 202400:46:25

Did you know that the restaurant and construction industries have among the highest suicide rates in the country? That's where Wichita State University's Suspenders4Hope initiative comes in, combining ingenuity and compassion to address mental health issues head-on. This breakthrough endeavor began as a campus-based campaign for suicide prevention and mental wellness training and has since spread to companies across the country.

We’re joined by three incredible guests who helped make it happen. Rob Gerlach, Wichita State’s Associate Vice President of Tech Commercialization, shares how tech transfer played a key role in scaling this initiative. Zeeshan Khan, Program Manager for Tech Transfer, discusses the challenges of working in a human-centered, non-traditional tech transfer space.  Dr. Jessica Provines, the program’s creator and Chief Psychologist at WSU, opens up about her personal journey and the program’s mission to foster hope and reduce deaths of despair.

In this episode, we explore the innovative strategies behind Suspenders4Hope, including non-exclusive licensing and industry collaborations. We also examine how this program is making a significant difference, from providing individuals with mental health tools to altering businesses and communities. Stay tuned for an exciting discussion about how technology transfer can be a force for good.


In This Episode:

[02:26] This is an important conversation and a fascinating story.

[02:41] Jessica shares how Suspenders4Hope came about. She went through her own experience with depression. Her own experience through suicide loss made this cause near and dear to her heart.

[03:15] They got a Federal Suicide Prevention Grant to work on this issue.

[04:12] After creating a successful program on the campus, they decided to help more people. She was grateful that she was able to be guided by a Tech Transfer office.

[05:05] WSU is a leader in innovation and Technology Transfer.

[06:10] Rob talks about what it was like when this product first came to their Tech Transfer office. It didn't fit the typical mold. Jessica and her team were committed to moving the initiative forward.

[07:35] The purpose of moving the product out to the world was still in the same vein as a transfer project.

[08:12] Zeeshan talks about what made Suspenders4Hope stand out. 

[08:58] There was a need for the team to understand and promote the product as ambassadors.

[10:02] Benefits of using non-exclusive licensing for mental health training.

[11:28] The Tech Transfer office and their expertise to help figure out how to scale.

[14:58] Zeeshan talks about the construction and hospitality industry adopting the program. Partnerships in the sectors are crucial.

People resonate with the program as a lifeline.

[17:32] Jessica talks about the core elements of the training and what makes it so impactful. They are focused on creating a movement.

[22:05] Branding and meeting the program where it's at.

[24:43] They've had very positive responses from the industries adopting the program.

[28:38] Jessica's dream is for the long-term impact of the program to help transform lives.

[31:16] The number one lesson is to always remember to think outside of the box.

[34:24] Think about how you're fulfilling needs when trying to get involved with social impact initiatives.

[37:39] According to Jessica, it comes down to relationships and being able to show love and compassion for people.

[39:24] There are broader uses of Technology Transfer than just finding patents. It's about transferring technology into the hands of people who can make the biggest impact.

[42:28] Advice for pursuing socially impactful projects.


Resources: 

Suspenders4Hope

Rob Gerlack Wichita State University

Rob Gerlach LinkedIn

Zeeshan Khan Wichita State University

Zeeshan Khan LinkedIn

Dr. Jessica Provines Wichita State University 

Dr. Jessica Provines LinkedIn


Balancing Innovation and Integrity: Ethical AI in Tech Transfer with Charles Holloran13 Nov 202400:44:21

Are we ready for the ethical challenges AI brings to Tech Transfer? Today’s episode dives into artificial intelligence's rapidly evolving role in tech transfer, examining the frameworks that help us navigate its legal, societal, and ethical complexities. Our guest, Charles Halloran, brings deep expertise in technology licensing and intellectual property, with a career that spans some of the most significant patent and trademark cases. His perspective on managing AI responsibly is invaluable for anyone looking to understand the delicate balance between innovation and integrity.

We’re exploring questions around the ethical use of AI, particularly in the unique environment of Tech Transfer offices at universities. Charles shares insights on how data should be curated and protected, ways universities can create their own safe AI systems, and the protocols necessary to avoid pitfalls in data-sharing. The discussion touches on real-world issues like inventorship, confidentiality, and open-source licensing, offering actionable steps for institutions striving to build trust while leveraging AI's capabilities.

Listeners will come away with practical guidance on fostering responsible AI use, from addressing bias in training data to implementing clear data-management policies. Charles emphasizes that adopting a strong ethical foundation isn’t just good practice—it’s essential for sustainable innovation. This conversation is packed with insights and strategies for navigating the AI-driven future of Tech Transfer with transparency and care.


In This Episode:

[02:02] Tech Transfer is a bridge that brings innovation to the public. Data used to train AI needs to be well-curated and ethically sourced.

[04:01] Legal and ethics challenges TTOs face in maintaining standards, especially when it comes to protecting proprietary information.

[05:05] Charles talks about data privacy and hosting your own AI infrastructure. We've come to understand what reasonable protections need to be in place for previous technologies.

[06:27] AI challenges include helping people understand what's working and what's happening to the data.

[07:37] Universities have put policies in place that restrict the use of LLMs that aren't the licensed commercial choice of the university.

[08:39] Charles talks about protocols and best practices for ensuring that TTOs maintain proper disclosure and human oversight over AI generated work.

[10:25] Ethical responsibilities regarding AI assisted inventorship. Tech Transfer offices need to ask how AI was used if it was used at all.

[13:08] Balancing Innovation with ethical safeguards. Charles talks about the 13 Principles for Using AI Responsibly in Harvard Business Review.

[13:57] Effectiveness and safety are primary concerns in the White House Bill of AI Rights. 

[15:03] Find an AI Bill of Rights that works with your institutional culture.

[16:28] Many TTOs make these frameworks available on a website. Also build it into your education process and outreach to researchers.

[17:58] Charles has a strong background in open-source licensing.

[18:09] How principles from open source can inform responsible AI practices.

[21:18] Charles shares an example where lack of attention to responsible AI policies led to a speed bump in commercializing a product.

[23:07] Being casual about the data that you're using at the development stage leads to roadblocks or problems at the commercialization stage.

[26:18] Charles talks about issues with licensing and shared data between different hospitals or universities.

[27:56] We talk about the risks of social biases when using AI. The first place to begin is recognizing that bias is an issue.

[30:59] We are developing better tools and awareness to help counteract bias.

[32:02] What tech transfer offices can do to help broaden the use of underrepresented groups. Using AI tools to alleviate bias.

[35:05] Should TTOs take a leading role in setting ethical standards for AI use especially when it comes to managing bias in societal impact?

[37:32] It's likely ethical considerations in AI will evolve very quickly.

[41:34] How to start building a foundation for ethical AI use. Charles recommends choosing a framework. Use transparency and create trust. 


Resources: 

Charles Halloran - KPPB

Charles Halloran LinkedIn

Harvard Business Review's 13 Principles for Using AI Responsibly

Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights


AI in Action: Transforming Outbound Marketing for Tech Transfer Success with Andrew Rankin06 Nov 202400:31:19

What if artificial intelligence could do more than just automate tasks? What if it could open doors to partnerships and markets we have never considered? In today’s episode, we’re exploring how AI is reshaping outbound marketing strategies in Technology Transfer, turning complex innovations into viable, real-world solutions. 

This isn’t just about tech—it’s about discovering new ways to connect groundbreaking ideas with the industries and people who can bring them to life. To guide us on this journey, we’re joined by Andrew Rankin, the Intellectual Asset Marketing Lead at Idaho National Laboratory. 

Andrew has spent the last five years pioneering how AI-driven tools can enhance outreach, especially in the complex world of Tech Transfer. With an MBA from Idaho State and an Early Career Professional of the Year award under his belt, he’s developed approaches that make his team’s work both smarter and faster. He’ll share insights into his own process, including how tools like FirstIgnite help him identify key contacts, craft strategic messages, and even reveal cross-sector applications that might otherwise go unnoticed.

AI isn’t a magic fix. He’s faced his share of challenges—from compliance issues to building secure, reliable systems—and learned how to start small, test, and adapt. So, if you’re curious about how AI could be a game-changer in Tech Transfer or are looking for practical advice on where to start, this conversation is for you.


In This Episode:

[00:44] How AI is reshaping outbound marketing strategies in the Tech Transfer sector.

[01:41] Outbound marketing and the Tech Transfer world. Outbound marketing involves actively reaching out to potential licensees.

[02:38] Andrew's main focus is on email outreach.

[03:14] Outbound also offers a more focused approach.

[04:21] Andrew began 5 years ago fresh out of college, and he pioneered the process.

[04:43] FirstIgnite software has been instrumental in his process.

[06:24] How AI is helping in the Tech Transfer industry. With AI, we can do more with less.

[08:42] AI doesn't replace humans. It helps us scale what we're already doing.

[09:17] Andrew walks us through a typical AI driven marketing initiative.

[10:16] It starts with an AI tool that creates a one-pager. FirstIgnite identifies the companies to reach out to. He then finds the person to contact and drafts through an email composer tool.

[12:24] He only uses information that is publicly available.

[14:22] AI can identify non-obvious industry applications, potential cross-sector uses, or even companies that weren't even on the radar at all.

[15:07] He developed a custom GPT, but they're currently working on a more secure tool.

[17:16] His process has allowed him to contact 940% more people than he could previously.

[18:34] Common obstacles and challenges a Tech Transfer office may face when implementing AI solutions, including compliance issues.

[22:09] Addressing data privacy and compliance.

[24:08] Regulatory compliance is also a focus.

[26:46] Start small and practice to get the hang of using AI as you progress.

[28:11] Andrew shares a success story. He reached out to Open AI, and they are discussing a larger research partnership.


Resources: 

Andrew Rankin Idaho National Laboratory

Andrew Rankin LinkedIn

FirstIgnite



Revitalizing Rural America: The Role of University Tech Transfer and Cooperative Extension with Dr. Richard Cahoon30 Oct 202400:39:45

For decades, rural areas have faced a steady decline—losing economic opportunities, grappling with the "brain drain" as creatives and young people migrate to urban centers, and watching local industries falter. But what if university Tech Transfer offices (TTOs) could reverse this trend and be the spark for rural revitalization? Today’s episode explores this potential with Dr. Richard Cahoon, an expert in the field who has over 30 years of experience in invention, intellectual property (IP) management, technology commercialization, and entrepreneurship.

Dr. Richard Cahoon, an Adjunct Professor in Global Development and former Director of Cornell’s Tech Transfer office, has worked extensively with universities, government agencies, and companies across more than 25 countries. In addition to advising on R&D partnerships, IP management, and venture creation, Richard is a seasoned innovator who holds several U.S. patents. 

His vision? To align TTOs with Cooperative Extension offices and bring technology and entrepreneurship into rural communities to foster local talent, create sustainable businesses, and ultimately reshape these areas’ futures. Join us for this insightful conversation as Richard shares his strategies, lessons learned, and the transformative potential of connecting university resources with rural America.


In This Episode:

[02:04] Rural America has faced economic decline for decades, and traditionally, university tech transfer offices have focused more on urban or research-intensive areas.

[03:02] When Dr. Cahoon joined Cornell's Tech transfer office in 1990, he brought with him experience as an inventor and an entrepreneur. He was very involved in creating opportunities and recruiting entrepreneurs. He created the Venture Vision Summary which was like a tech brief.

[04:48] He wanted to take a proactive role in creating entrepreneurial activity in rural towns.

[06:10] Dr. Cahoon shares information about his first tech and entrepreneur pilot program in Auburn, New York. 

[09:30] There was robust entrepreneurship at Cornell which helped with the pilot program that Dr. Cahoon was developing. 

[10:19] How Tech Transfer professionals can help foster local talent retention through similar models.

[11:11] Thinking about the creative economy and creative people. Tech Transfer professionals are the bridge to enable the creative economy to flourish.

[12:56] He left the Tech Transfer office in 2009 just as it was beginning to thrive.

[13:41] We learn about a startup that came out of the Geneva campus at Cornell. It was about biological control of agricultural pests and disease.

[17:49] Dr. Cahoon made a connection with the owner of a car dealership while he was at Cornell. They ended up establishing a venture fund.

[18:51] Challenges when extending Tech Transfer models to a rural context.

[21:48] The importance of cooperative extension programs. 

[24:09] Parallels between rural America's current situation and other countries or regions when fostering local innovation.

[25:55] How fortunate we are in the United States. Other countries have so much bureaucracy it's absolutely stifling.

[26:28] Key steps for growing this particular model at Cornell and other universities.  It would be interesting to get a room full of Tech Transfer office directors and cooperative extension directors.

[28:13] It might be possible to start by getting Tech Transfer people together at AUTM. 

[28:53] The AUTM 50th Anniversary meeting is coming up in March in Washington DC.

[29:11] Movements with impact often start with a small group.

[30:29] Dr. Cahoon shares the story about a small town that was once thriving because of technology and patents. This one is about the Channel Master TV antenna. 

[32:05] This success can be reproduced with new technology.

[32:34] Practical advice for getting started and gaining traction in your local community. Reach out and look for technologies that might belong in a rural community. Do marketing with that in mind.

[35:08] How the TTO/Cooperative Extension could evolve. It has the potential to be one of the pillars of the mission of Tech Transfer. 


Resources: 

Dr. Richard Cahoon LinkedIn

Dr. Richard Cahoon

Dr. Richard Cahoon


Inside the CRISPR Patent Wars: Innovation, Rights, and Legal Battles with Dr. Kevin Noonan23 Oct 202400:54:51

In recent years, CRISPR technology has emerged as a game-changer in the world of gene editing, unlocking remarkable possibilities across various sectors, including healthcare, agriculture, and environmental science.

But what is CRISPR? CRISPR stands for "Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats" and is based on an ancient function of prokaryotes—single-celled organisms such as bacteria and archaea. These organisms use a specialized CRISPR-associated molecule, Cas, to cut and destroy the DNA of invading viruses called bacteriophages. 

The CRISPR-Cas system has been engineered to work in eukaryotes, like animals and plants. Its ability to make precise, targeted cuts in DNA sequences allows scientists to insert, delete, and modify DNA across a wide variety of cells. Among the various Cas proteins identified, the best known is CRISPR-Cas9, which has become a transformative tool in genome editing.

Given the potential value of this technology, the CRISPR patent landscape is vast. Some estimates suggest there are more than 12,000 families of patents related to CRISPR technology. Unsurprisingly, disputes have arisen over the ownership of these patents. Most famously, two groups have claimed rights to the use of CRISPR-Cas9 for eukaryotic gene editing: the University of California, Berkeley, the University of Vienna, and Dr. Emmanuelle Charpentier (CVC) on one side, and the Harvard-MIT Broad Institute on the other. 

This dispute has led to several complex and lengthy battles in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, the European Patent Office, the Japanese Patent Office, the Chinese Patent Office, and in various courts, where proceedings are still ongoing.

Here to help us understand the latest developments in these ongoing disputes is Dr. Kevin Noonan. Kevin is an experienced patent lawyer, molecular biologist, and renowned thought leader in biotechnology and pharmaceutical patent law. He is a partner at the intellectual property law firm McDonnell Boehnen Hulbert & Berghoff, where he co-chairs the firm's Biotechnology and Pharmaceuticals Practice Group. 

He is also the co-founder and regular contributor to Patent Docs, a website featuring news and commentary on patent law. In addition, he is a co-editor and contributing author of the book Claim Construction and the Federal Circuit, and a contributing author of Antitrust Issues in Intellectual Property Law, now in its second edition.


In This Episode:

[03:42] Dr. Noonan talks about how the Broad Institute and CVC became key players in the CRISPR patent landscape. Broad had very aggressively filed patents. CVC took a more laid back approach. Since the Broad patents were already filed they caused interference when the CVC patents came up.

[05:41] Broad had the earlier filing date.

[06:35] Dr. Noonan explains interferences. 

[11:21] Eventually, the patents and applications may need to be decided in court.

[12:03] A summary of the main claims and inventions in the first interference. One had a more narrow claim to CRISPR.

[13:22] PTAP dismissed the first interference finding no interference.

[15:57] Interference number one was a victory to Broad.

[16:14] California wasn't happy with the first decision, so they filed a second interference.

[17:40] We learn about the rationale behind PTAB holding for Broad.

[21:55] The PTAB determined in the first interference that this was complicated and if it didn't work, they didn't really have conception.

[24:42] This is really an anomaly in interference law to have the second to conceive in the absence of these diligence issues, to have the second to conceive get the priority.

[25:14] Because it's so complicated, it's taking the Federal Circuit a long time to decide.

[26:22] Dr. Noonan shares how Broad should approach the case.

[27:32] There are four more CRISPR interferences involving Broad and CVC. Two involve Sigma Aldrich and the other two involve ToolGen.

[31:21] Dr. Noonan talks about what this means for the future of CRISPR research and applications and what tech transfer offices should be most aware of.

[34:42] Lessons that innovators, researchers, and tech transfer offices can draw from all of these interferences moving forward.

[39:35] The status of the Broad Institute and CVC's CRISPR-Cas9 patents in Europe.

[45:08] We discuss Sigma and ToolGen's patents in Europe. 

[47:15] The status of the Broad Institute’s and CVC’s CRISPR-Cas9 patents in Japan and China.

[48:28] Final thoughts for Tech Transfer offices. It's a moving target, and as time goes by, there's more types of genetic interferences.

[49:45] The University of Missouri has gotten the first CRISPR pig patent in Europe. There's a proposed ban in Europe on selling CRISPR genetically modified plants. 


Resources: 

Dr. Kevin Noonan

Dr. Kevin Noonan LinkedIn

Patent Docs



Guardians of Ancient Wisdom: Navigating Indigenous IP in Tech Transfer with Graham Strong16 Oct 202400:35:08

What if the next technology or scientific breakthrough is hidden in ancient tribal knowledge? Today, we'll look at Indigenous knowledge and intellectual property, and how Tech Transfer Offices deal with the specific issues of protecting and honoring these cultural assets.  

We're delighted to welcome Graham Strong, Otago Innovation's commercialization manager with over 25 years of business expertise. Graham is an expert in both intellectual property and Indigenous rights, with a PhD in Botany and a Master of Laws focusing on the monetization of Māori medicinal knowledge.  

As Otago Innovation's expert in natural product commercialization and Indigenous intellectual property, Graham is perfectly positioned to help us navigate this complex landscape.  

We'll look at the underlying contrasts between Indigenous and non-Indigenous intellectual property systems, the problems of protecting Indigenous IP during technology transfer, and the importance of respectful interaction with Indigenous people.  

We also look at how universities may form meaningful, long-term relationships that go beyond transactional agreements, ensuring that Indigenous perspectives are heard and their expertise is appropriately recognized and preserved during the innovation process.  


In This Episode:

[01:44] Graham has a lot of expertise in both intellectual property and indigenous rights.

[02:02] Graham shares that traditional knowledge and indigenous IP are two different things.

[04:02] We talk about how universities can engage indigenous communities in a culturally respectful and meaningful way.

[05:01] Conversations can start when everyone realizes it's okay to be uncomfortable. Graham also talks about reputational damage.

[06:06] Key challenges when protecting indigenous IP in the context of text transfer.

[07:19] We talk about things like handling consent and ownership when traditional knowledge is embedded in new technology.

[08:14] It's difficult to protect background IP which is in the public domain. Graham talks about prior informed consent and mutually agreed terms. These are some of the ingredients that can be in place to handle consent of ownership.

[10:05] Drafting these types of agreements is still a work in progress for Graham's institution.

[11:32] The role that indigenous communities play in the decision-making about how they're knowledge is used.

[13:14] It's a balance between financial and non-financial when putting these partnerships together.

[15:45] We learn about the distinctions of which group you should engage in when looking for permission to use indigenous IP.

[18:33] Talking about cultural respect in tech transfer.

[20:33] We discuss whether universities are able to navigate these complexities while maintaining their core focus on research and innovation.

[23:02] Treating indigenous partners like any other partner and having a negotiation and seeing where it lands.

[24:38] Dealing with issues early on before money is involved.

[27:32] Graham shares a situation where involvement of indigenous communities has slowed down the commercialization of a technology.

[30:02] There have been times when there's been limited flexibility in developing commercialized technology with indigenous communities.

[32:03] We learn about how best practices in indigenous IP protection from other countries apply to universities in various legal, cultural, or economic contexts.


Resources: 

Graham Strong - Otago Innovation

Graham Strong LinkedIn


The Business of Bourbon: IP, Innovation, and Kentucky's Finest with Dr. Greg Tucker09 Oct 202401:00:22

The bourbon industry is a major economic driver for the Kentucky region, with 95% of the world's bourbon supply made and aged in the Bluegrass State. There’s more behind those barrels than aging whisky. 

I’m joined by Dr. Greg Tucker , a licensing manager and commercialization specialist III at the University of Louisville. His extensive experience includes negotiating business terms for license agreements, managing university technologies, and establishing partnerships between innovators and companies. He holds a doctorate in chemistry from Arizona State University and has multiple U.S. patents in renewable energy.

We talk about the rich history of bourbon, exploring its origins dating back to George Washington and the evolution of its production process. We discuss how intellectual property plays a crucial role in the bourbon industry, from trademarks protecting iconic brands to patents safeguarding innovative distillation methods.

Greg also shares insights into notable IP cases, including the Jack Daniel's dog toy dispute and Maker's Mark's signature red wax seal. We also explore groundbreaking innovations emerging from the University of Louisville, with a spotlight on Bioproducts LLC. This company is revolutionizing the industry by transforming distillery waste into valuable products like animal feed, healthy sugar alternatives, and even materials for 3D printing.

Whether you're a bourbon enthusiast or just curious about how innovation impacts industry, this episode is for you. Grab your glass, sit back, and let’s toast to the history and future of bourbon.

In This Episode:

[02:17] Greg is the licensing manager at University of Louisville Research Foundation and the diversity and inclusion pillar lead for HIPAA, our Kentucky Intellectual Property Association here locally in Louisville.

[04:12] Bourbon is a 9 billion dollar industry in Kentucky.

[05:12] Greg shares the history of bourbon with us.

[07:29] What makes bourbon a bourbon is that the mash is at least 51% corn. It also has to be distilled and aged in an oak barrel.

[11:09] During prohibition people could still buy medicinal bourbon.

[11:40] September is also bourbon heritage month.

[12:13] You can still find George Washington's still at Mount Vernon.

[13:39] Tennessee whiskey is bourbon with an additional process.

[15:29] Greg talks more about what makes a bourbon a bourbon.

[16:31] The role that IP plays when it comes to bourbon. It touches every aspect from names and trademarks to copyrights and design patents.

[19:34] There are also a lot of bourbon trade secrets.

[21:13] Greg talks about Jack Daniels vs. VIP Products, where a Jack Daniels bottle replica was used as a dog toy. Maker's Mark also had a case involving the red signature wax that drips from the top of the bottle.

[25:23] Bioproducts transform organic waste from distilleries into value-added products.

[27:20] Stillage is the organic grainy waste leftover from the fermentation process. Some interesting uses have been for it from animal feed to sweeteners. 

[30:07] There is also a company working on developing Biocoal. 

[32:35] Greg talks about working with farmers and collaborations using biomass.

[34:31] The Estate Whiskey Alliance is trying to make the industry more efficient.

[36:05] Greg talks about using carbon credits and becoming more efficient.

[38:07] Challenges from scaling up with Bioproducts

[44:19] We learn about a quantitative method that can be used to identify the type of bourbon or whiskey due to its unique grain pattern.

[46:26] For Greg, bourbon tasting is not only work, it's a hobby too.

[47:46] Greg talks about his favorite bourbon and whiskey along with an IP story. 

[53:44] This episode winds down with talking about favorite bourbons and sharing a virtual drink. 

[55:57] Greg walks us through a traditional Kentucky bourbon tasting.

Resources: 

T. Gregory Tucker, Ph.D. LinkedIn

Telpriore Greg Tucker Facebook

Bioproducts, LLC


Harnessing The Power of AI for Tech Transfer Professionals with Peter Bittner and D’vorah Graeser02 Oct 202400:33:51

AI is transforming the tech transfer industry, but how can we stay ahead of this rapidly evolving technology and fully leverage its capabilities? In this episode, we explore how AI is becoming an essential tool, helping accelerate licensing deals, identify the right industry partners, and market innovations more effectively.

To dive deeper into these advancements, we offer a sneak peek into our upcoming 4-week virtual course, The Future of Tech Transfer: Leveraging AI to Find & Secure Licensing Deals. This course is designed to equip you with practical AI skills that can revolutionize your approach to tech transfer.

It covers topics ranging from finding ideal industry partners to crafting personalized marketing strategies, all while emphasizing AI tools that boost efficiency and productivity in tech transfer offices. We also address the importance of adopting AI now to avoid falling behind in this fast-moving field.

Joining us are the course’s expert instructors: Peter Bittner, founder and CEO of The Upgrade, who has helped organizations like NASA and Apple close the AI skills gap, and Dr. D’vorah Graeser, founder and CEO of RocketSmart.io, a platform using AI to connect universities with top corporate partners.


In This Episode:

[02:14] This course is intended to look at AI from the perspective of a tech transfer professional. It's about using AI tools to make the process faster and more productive.

[03:37] AI tools can help innovations find the right commercial home and the right partner to commercialize the innovation and bring it to market.

[04:42] These tools will help tech transfer professionals find the right contact and make the right case.

[05:24] D’vorah talks about challenges for tech transfer offices finding corporate partners.

[06:42] Peter talks about the wide range of tools that they'll be covering in the course.

[10:32] D’vorah talks about how AI tools can help with invention summaries by defining the essence of the summary in regular language or from a business perspective.

[12:20] One way to craft a stronger pitch is to find the buyer side persona. Who is the buyer? How to identify the correct buyer persona?

[14:17] The pre-recorded modules of the live course will give everyone a foundation. The live part of the course will show how the tool can be used within specific contexts.

[15:13] There will be a pre-recorded module before every live module that corresponds to the content.

[16:40] Peter talks about how AI will allow all storytellers to do more with less.

[18:06] They're going to have office hours titled, Ask Us Anything About AI.

[20:04] D’vorah also encourages everybody to join the AI Special Interest Group. She also has a book coming out. They want to scale down AI for specific fields.

[22:51] D’vorah and Peter talk about the specifics of the modules and how busy people can fit the class into their schedules.

[24:34] Peter shares an AI success story and how AI enables a small team to be scrappier and more productive.

[27:21] How AI is going to evolve over the next 5 to 10 years and the possibilities of reducing friction.

[29:02] We talk about why tech transfer professionals should get involved in AI right now. 


Resources: 

The Future of Tech Transfer: 4-Week Virtual Training Course: October 15 – November 7

Peter Bittner - The Upgrade

Peter Bittner LinkedIn

Dr. D’vorah Graeser - Rocket Smart

Dr. D’vorah Graeser LinkedIn


Untapped Potential: Investigating Gender Disparities in Patent Citations with Gauri Subramani25 Sep 202400:27:20

Recent research has highlighted that patents from majority-female inventor teams receive significantly fewer citations—up to 22% less—than those from majority-male teams. Citations play a key role in measuring the impact and value of patents, making this gap significant not only for the inventors themselves but also for the broader innovation landscape. 

Why are female inventors' patents cited less frequently, and how does this imbalance affect their future development and the total capacity for innovation?

Our guest today is Gauri Subramani, an assistant professor in Lehigh University's Department of Management. Gauri's research focuses on gender and resource disparity in innovation, using data-driven methods to identify gaps and investigate potential remedies. 

Prior to joining academia, Gauri worked as a consultant and political appointee in the Office of Economic Policy at the United States Department of Treasury under the Obama administration. Her research spans the United States patent system and digital platforms, where she investigates the impact of representation on innovation and entrepreneurship.

One of the major topics we explore is the persisting gender discrepancy in patent citations, even after controlling for a variety of variables. We investigate whether this disparity is predominantly caused by applicant-added citations rather than examiner-added citations. Our discussion delves into the tendency of majority-male teams to regularly cite patents from other majority-male teams, as well as how patents from majority-female teams are less likely to be further developed. 

We also look at how women's patent undercitation affects businesses that rely significantly on cumulative innovation, such healthcare and technology. Finally, our study contributes significantly to the continuing discussion about diversity, inclusion, and innovation in the field of patenting and intellectual property.


In This Episode:

[03:08] Patent citations are an established way by which researchers really measure the impact and quality of an invention. Gauri wanted to explore the gap in citations between female and male inventors. 

[04:04] Female inventor teams received up to 22% fewer citations than male counterparts. Why does this citation gap exist?

[05:21] After implementing multiple controls in the study there's a 4% gap that they can't answer for.

[05:48] They've discovered that female inventors' patents are less likely to be cited and appear to be less likely to be further developed by subsequent inventions.

[06:59] This could mean that female inventor patents are less likely to be cited because they're less likely to be built upon. It's also possible that female patents could be perceived as less impactful.

[08:57] Citations are primarily added to patents by applicants or examiners.

[10:17] The gender gap seems to be driven entirely by applicant-added citations.

[11:22] Gender in-group preference appears to be a factor in patent citations.

[14:19] Technology areas with more female inventors grow more slowly. Female inventors' patents are also more distinct.

[15:26] We discuss how gender affects access to social networks that facilitate knowledge diffusion in the patent system.

[17:13] This gap could translate into other gaps and make less incentive for females to develop their inventions.

[19:08] Being less likely to build on inventions by female inventors exasperates several underlying problems especially in the healthcare and technology fields.

[20:39] There can be a desire to cite as little as possible on patent citations.

[22:23] Applicants and tech transfer offices should proactively think about the processes by which they search for and add citations. 

[24:32] The Council for Inclusive Innovation is a signal of the USPTO's commitment to increasing diversity in patenting.


Resources: 

Gauri Subramani

Gauri Subramani Lehigh University

Gauri Subramani LinkedIn

Untapped Potential: Investigating Gender Disparities in Patent Citations

Council for Inclusive Innovation


AI & IP: Navigating the New USPTO Guidance with Derrick Brent18 Sep 202400:35:36

Artificial Intelligence (AI) is revolutionizing industries across the board, from healthcare to finance, bringing with it new challenges for inventors, universities, and the IP community. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) recently issued new guidance on subject matter eligibility for AI inventions, providing much-needed clarity on how AI-related innovations can be patented. This update is vital for those working at the intersection of technology and intellectual property, especially in tech transfer offices and research institutions.

My guest today is someone deeply involved in shaping these policies: Derrick Brent, the Deputy Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property and Deputy Director of the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). As Deputy Director of the USPTO, Derrick serves as the principal advisor to the Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property and Director of the USPTO, Kathi Vidal. In his role, Derrick works to advance intellectual property policies that foster innovation, support startups, and enhance entrepreneurship nationwide.

We discuss AI subject matter eligibility guidance and its impact on the future of AI patenting. Derrick shares that the goal of this guidance is to promote clarity and consistency for both USPTO staff and external stakeholders in analyzing AI and critical emerging technologies. The USPTO aims to streamline the patenting process for AI-related inventions through clarity and consistency to patent subject matter eligibility. We also cover where stakeholders can submit comments and feedback on these guidelines. Additionally, we explore the tools and resources available to help everyone become AI fluent to navigate this rapidly evolving landscape. 


In This Episode:

[02:39] Derrick gives us a brief overview of the key updates in the USPTO's AI subject matter eligibility guidance. 

[03:02] AI presents one of the greatest technological innovation opportunities in a generation. It's transformative and an amazing Innovation opportunity.

[03:32] Order 14110 or the Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Development and Use of AI. Was used as a guiding principle.

[04:06] The guidance on the intersection of AI and IP, which could include patent eligibility issues related to innovation in AI and Critical Emerging Technologies was issued on July 17th of 2024. We are now in the middle of the comment period.

[04:12] There are three main parts to the guidance. The first part is to assist USPTO personnel and stakeholders in evaluating subject

matter eligibility for AI inventions. 

[04:38] The second part of it is to provide a new set of examples to assist in applying guidance. The third part is to address feedback from stakeholders and also to discuss the law and policy landscape.

[06:40] Derrick shares information about the previous guidance that led up to this new guidance.

[12:19] The comment period is going on now, so submit your feedback regulations.gov.

[13:22] They are going to stay current with developments through engagement with stakeholders and interagency conversations and collaborations.

[15:41] Derrick shares important tools like Site Experience Education Program (SEE) and the Patent Examiner Technology Training Program (PETTP). The USPTO also has an AI portal.

[17:53] How the guidance addresses distinguishing between abstract ideas and practical applications.

[18:36] There is a two prong analysis. If the first prong is met then you move to the second prong.

[22:53]  Use the tools with AI related patent applications. Be diligent and describe your invention as clearly as possible

[26:39] If you're interested in commenting, go to regulations.gov. The deadline for commenting should be in the portal.

[27:41] In spite of the type of IP, there is a consistency for the rules and guidelines of evaluation.

[29:49] Challenges include new and unprecedented inventions.

[30:56] Derick talks about government collaboration.

[33:14] AI is going to be a transformative problem solving tool.


Resources: 

Derrick Brent

Derrick Brent LinkedIn

Journey to the USPTO — Derrick Brent, USPTO Deputy Director

Regulations.gov

Site Experience Education Program

USPTO Artificial Intelligence


How Public-Private Partnerships Are Advancing US Manufacturing With Nagesh Rao and David McFeeters-Krone11 Sep 202400:51:34

The Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) is a public-private partnership with centers in all 50 states and Puerto Rico. This episode dives into MEP and the MEP National Network—an initiative that has been a pillar of U.S. manufacturing, offering comprehensive solutions to manufacturers across the country and fueling growth and innovation in the sector.

Joining us for this discussion are two distinguished experts. First, we have Nagesh Rao, the acting director of the Manufacturing Extension Partnership at NIST. With over 25 years of experience across the public, private, and non-profit sectors, Nagesh brings a wealth of knowledge to the table. He previously served as Chief Information Officer for the Bureau of Industry and Security at the U.S. Department of Commerce, co-developed federal initiatives like i6 Green and Patents for Humanity, and led crucial technology efforts during the COVID-19 response.

David McFeeters-Krone is a commercialization and business development executive with over 25 years of experience at MIT, NASA-RTTC, Intel, and his own firm. He currently manages a Manufacturing Extension Partnership (OMEP) grant, engaging small manufacturers with the ManufacturingUSA institutes. David has reviewed numerous commercialization plans, founded two companies, and serves as an adjunct professor at Portland State University. He has established strategic R&D partnerships with organizations like the U.S. Air Force, NASA, and NIST, and was awarded the Federal Lab Consortium’s Outstanding Service Award in 2008.

In this episode, we’ll explore the MEP National Network’s role in supporting U.S. manufacturers, discuss innovative approaches to growth and competitiveness in the manufacturing sector, and gain valuable insights from Nagesh and David.


In This Episode:

[02:57] Nagesh shares how his background has led to innovation in the manufacturing sector.

[03:41] Nagesh started my career in technology transfer and commercialization back in 2002 at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.  

[04:29] Coming to the MEP program in 2023 was a full circle journey of his career. He worked in engineering, public policy, the US patent and trademark office, then worked in industry and the national security space.

[05:07] He now ensures evidence-based policy decision making at the federal level to support small and medium-sized manufacturers.

[07:10] For our country to be competitive from a national security perspective we need a robust manufacturing scene.

[08:20] Challenges include keeping up with software demands and having a talented technical workforce.

[10:39] The role of MEP in helping small and medium-sized manufacturers navigate these challenges. MEP has a 30-year history of being a trusted advisor. They meet these manufacturers wherever they are.

[11:46] Collaboration ensures new technologies make it from the lab to the production floor.

[13:29] MEP is perfectly positioned to help companies overcome hurdles especially with connections. The role of the MEP Advanced Technology Team.

[15:11] How the MEP supports tech transfer in the manufacturing sector and the role for tech transfer Professionals in this ecosystem. MEP National Network is a network of networks within a greater network of innovation ecosystems across the United States.

[16:10] Think of an MEP center as a hub of excellence for a company that is in the business of manufacturing.

[20:08] Navigating the complex balance between academia and industry for a mutually beneficial relationship. Communication, culture, and contact.

[22:54] David shares examples of successful partnerships that led to significant advancements in manufacturing technology. One of the examples he uses is 3D printed plastic parts to service forms for metal press part making.

[26:02] Measuring the success of the MEP manufacturer initiatives. 

[27:04] Common pitfalls manufacturers encounter when trying to bring about new technology. Lack of time and not realizing the value of partnerships are common.

[34:00] The government has done a tremendous amount of lift for many companies. Large companies know how to use the federal government.

[39:59] Predictions for where the MEP is going to go in the next 5 years.

[41:16] How making investments to move forward will help in the long run.

[46:49]  Advice for getting involved in an MEP Network and supporting local manufacturers includes beginning with connecting with your local center and going to the MEP website on NIST.gov. 


Resources: 

NIST MEP

MEP National Network

Nagesh Rao

David McFeeters-Krone

David McFeeters-Krone LinkedIn


Bridging The Gap Between Academic Research And Community Impact With Dr. Kendra Stenzel04 Sep 202400:23:40

In a world where groundbreaking discoveries often struggle to leave the laboratory, we explore how to transform scientific insights into real-world solutions. We’re focusing on bridging the gap between academic research and community impact.

My guest today is Dr. Kendra Stenzel, the Director of Innovation Talent at the University of Kentucky's Office of Technology Commercialization. With her unique blend of scientific expertise and business acumen, Dr. Stenzel is at the forefront of training the next generation of entrepreneurs and commercialization professionals.

Armed with a Ph.D. in Pharmacology and an MBA with a focus on entrepreneurship, she serves as a vital bridge between researchers and the Tech Transfer office. Her mission? To help researchers reimagine their work through a commercialization lens, encouraging them to "fail fast and pivot" – a mantra that's reshaping how academic innovations reach the market.

She's also a facilitator, helping innovators develop business models, secure funding, and navigate the complex path from lab to market. Her experience with the Kentucky Network for Innovation and Commercialization (KYNETIC) has given her invaluable insights into nurturing early-stage innovations.

Today, we explore Dr. Stenzel's perspectives on how researchers can frame their outcomes to maximize community impact, the challenges of commercializing academic research, and her vision for the future of innovation in academia. Let's dive into this conversation about turning scientific breakthroughs into tangible benefits for society. 


In This Episode:

[01:58] One of the main challenges with translating academic research into community impact is education.

[02:37] Common misconceptions and challenges include some innovators not understanding that their innovations aren't market ready or community ready and getting innovators to understand the word commercialization.

[04:20] The goal is beyond making money, it's having an impact on the community. Getting innovators to accept this reality has a lot to do with being intentional with the relationship.

[06:00] Balancing the academic focus on research and the need for commercialization includes relating with the researcher and investing in the relationship. Meeting the researchers in the lab and having the conversation about the science and defining the research and outlining the path forward.

[07:10] Barriers that prevent research from making it out of the university include lack of time, having all of the necessary qualifications, and having the knowledge and support.

[09:35] From the start they focus on things like the regulatory pathway, prototyping, and the facilities they have to use. Launch Blue has an innovation training program and programs that keep innovators engaged.

[10:46] Kendra talks about crucial elements of a successful education program for researchers.

[12:09] thinking outside the box and communicating that everyone can be an innovator. 

[12:53] Money to put towards proof-of-concept development is crucial. The education and framework brought to the innovator is also very important.

[14:56] Collaboration and cultivating partnerships that align with university goals and needs of the broader community.

[16:44] Measuring the long term impacts of intellectual property assets. Defining success goes back to understanding stakeholders. They do have quantitative metrics to protect intellectual property assets. Kendra likes to look at the qualitative metrics and the innovator and the team.

[19:16] The MBA that Kendra is getting has really taught her to think in terms of strategy.

[20:43] Advice includes meeting innovators where they are and keeping relationships first.


Resources: 

Kendra Stenzel Director, Innovation Talent Development UK

Kendra Stenzel University of Kentucky

Kendra Stenzel LinkedIn


Shattering the Glass Ceiling in Innovation and Patents With Dr. Marianne Privett And Dr. Aardra Kachroo28 Aug 202400:33:37

Did you know that despite being behind many groundbreaking inventions and patents, women are less likely to turn their ideas into commercial products? It's a trend that's holding us back, and we're here to explore why. To discuss the experiences and insights of leading women scientists, researchers, and inventors. We have two prolific and leading women with us today.

Dr. Marianne Privett, is a Partner and patent attorney with extensive knowledge in chemistry and materials science. Marianne manages patent portfolios for a diverse range of clients, including multinationals and universities, with a focus on clean tech. She's a strong advocate for women inventors and entrepreneurs and actively participates in networks like Women in Health Tech and the Global Women Inventors & Innovators Network.

Dr. Aardra Kachroo, a Professor at the University of Kentucky specializing in plant pathology. Her research delves into the intricate signaling mechanisms in plants, particularly how they adapt and respond to various pathogens. Aardra has received numerous awards for her work and is deeply involved in outreach, including workshops for youth and presentations to farmers. 


In This Episode:

[02:18] Marianne shares her journey in science and innovation. She discovered that patents were a good way to marry business with science.

[03:26] Aardra always loved science, and she's a researcher. She didn't want to work with animals so she chose plant research.  She has two patents and a company based on one of those.

[05:12] Challenges that women inventors face navigating the IP landscape. Research shows that women aren't engaging as much with the patent process.

[06:59] There are fewer girls and young women studying STEM subjects.

[08:13] We need to have uncomfortable conversations about why women aren't showing up as inventors.

[08:32] Aardra shares her patent experience. Her company was patented by her husband. She refers to studies where women want everything to be 100% where a man is more confident and will go ahead before the project reaches that point.

[09:38] Women being unwilling to commercialize their innovation because of perfectionism.

[10:21] Women also seem to face more barriers than a man in the same position.

[12:05] The low percentage of women that get VC funding is scary. Role models also have something to do with this. We need to normalize women entrepreneurs.

[14:04] Aardra talks about outreach contributing to the commercialization of research. She shares a story about how what she was doing in the lab was able to make it into society.

[16:35] It's easier for a student to understand what you're studying if you show them that it's applicable in the real world.

[18:44] Marianne talks about networking groups such as Women in Health Tech and the Global Women Inventors & Innovators Network.

[21:44] She also shares global innovation advice for women to protect their inventions.

[25:10] Opportunities on the horizon for women inventors. The CHIPS and Science Act creates a more streamlined pathway to innovation and commercialization. There's also a lot of focus on supporting women and minorities.

[26:59] Technology, Innovation and Partnerships (TIP) has funding programs for every step of the way.

[28:19] The UK also has similar programs just on a smaller scale.

[29:35] How tech transfer professionals can better support women.


Resources: 

Dr. Marianne Privett

Dr. Marianne Privett LinkedIn

Dr. Aardra Kachroo

Dr. Aardra Kachroo LinkedIn




Courtrooms to Congress: Legal Perspectives and Policy Updates with Jeffrey Depp21 Aug 202401:06:49

Tech Transfer professionals have a lot to stay on top of, including the legislative and legal landscape in Washington, DC. My guest today is Jeffrey Depp, who shares his expert knowledge on the current cases we should be aware of.

Jeffrey is a registered patent attorney with extensive experience in intellectual property and innovation policy. His diverse background spans university Tech Transfer, the pharmaceutical industry, law, and the federal courts. Currently pursuing his PhD at the University of Pittsburgh, Jeffrey applies an Austrian economics lens to U.S. innovation, bringing a unique perspective to our discussion.

In addition to his academic pursuits, Jeffrey consults on biopharmaceutical innovation for the Center for Strategic and International Studies. His commitment to shaping policy is evident through his active involvement in various professional organizations, including his current membership and former role as chair of the Public Policy Legal Task Force at AUTM.

In today's episode, we'll explore Jeffrey's rich background and how it influences his current work. We'll provide an overview of this year's comment requests from Washington, DC, discuss the administrative landscape affecting Tech Transfer, and examine recent Supreme Court decisions, including Loper Bright v. Raimondo and SEC v. Jarkesy, and their implications for the tech transfer field. 

We also look at key decisions in the federal courts and Congress. Jeffrey breaks down these cases and explains their relevance to us, while also sharing tips for tech transfer professionals to stay informed.


In This Episode:

[01:57] Jeffrey works with a number of organizations in DC trying to promote the progress of science through technology and commercialization.

[02:20] He has real world experience and formal training. He spent many years in the pharmaceutical industry and in university technology transfer. He has an MBA. He's a registered patent attorney. He's working on a PhD dissertation focused on the nature and causes of American innovation from an Austrian economics perspective.

[03:50] We learn why it's important for tech transfer professionals to stay updated on the legislative activities happening in DC. Staying on top of legislation is just another job that tech transfer professionals have to do.

[05:21] Bad policy can devour even the best of science. This is why Jeffrey has gotten involved to help great technology move forward instead of being stifled by bad policy.

[06:47] We try to keep our eye on three buckets, the administrative law side of it, what's going on in Congress with legislation, and of course, what the courts are doing.

[07:28] This year has been extremely active with nine or so comments requested from agencies.

[08:13] The USPTO has put out guidance about who is the inventor when it comes to AI technologies. There has to be sufficient human inventorship in order to be patentable.

[10:05] The patent office asked for comments about how to promote more innovation in the marketplace. There were also fee increases.

[14:44] Jeffrey talks about more of the comment request issues this year. 

[17:31] There's another one about the impact of AI on prior art. The human being needs to be paramount in inventorship.

[22:29] The last one is about the experimental use exception.

[24:43] SEC v. Jarkesy referenced the Oil States case which did directly implicate intellectual property issues.

[28:19] Jeffrey talks about the private rights public rights doctrine of patents.

[29:01] Jeffrey talks about Loper Bright v. Raimondo.

[30:45] We discuss pending cases in the Supreme Court that we should keep an eye on including Cellect, LLC v. Vidal.

[31:21] This case is very important for tech transfer professionals to be following. The case establishes binding

precedent that a terminal disclaimer cuts off any extended patent term granted through PTA. 

[38:28] Jeffrey shares his thoughts on some of the key decisions in the federal circuit court. Including the LKQ Corp. case which affects design patents.

[41:29] We also talk about University of California v. Broad Institute Inc. regarding CRISPR technology. This is important because gene editing is only going to continue to grow in creating health breakthroughs.

[45:28] We talk about the legislative side. Congress has introduced multiple patent bills including the Prevail Act, the Patent Eligibility Restoration Act, the Restore Act, RALIA, and the Balancing Incentives Act.

[46:16] Problems with the patent system include things that make patents unreliable and things that make patents uncertain.

[53:47] Jeffrey talks about the Countering Communist China Act and the Invent Here, Make Here Act.

[58:42] We discuss the FTC's move to ban non-compete agreements and how this could affect technology transfer offices.

[01:02:53] The best way to stay on top of things is to compartmentalize it in your mind and keep an eye on what's going on in the courts and the federal circuit. The Judiciary Committee has a subcommittee focused on IP. Also focus on the USPTO and the NIH.


Resources: 

Jeffrey Depp LinkedIn

SEC v. Jarkesy

Loper Bright v. Raimondo

LKQ Corp case v. GM

Countering Communist China Act

Invent Here, Make Here Act



Using The Power Of Innovation To Move From Invention To Commercialization with Joy Goswami14 Aug 202400:43:36

Innovation is at the heart of both Tech Transfer and human progress. It's in our nature to seek better ways of implementing ideas, but historically, innovation hasn't always received the scholarly attention it deserves, despite technology being integral to our lives—think of the 250,000 patents in a single smartphone. 

I’m thrilled to have Joy Goswami, Senior Director of Corporate Engagement at Johns Hopkins University, here to talk about the role of Technology Transfer in fostering innovation, distinguishing between invention and innovation, and exploring how tech transfer professionals categorize, assess, and commercialize new inventions.

We'll discuss how the invention process begins with disclosure, followed by classification into sustaining, disruptive, and breakthrough technologies, among others. Disruptive innovations, in particular, create entirely new markets. We'll also touch on inspiring stories, like the invention of a glass keyboard for people with disabilities that became part of the iPhone, and a nurse's passion that led to a startup for wearable simulators.

As we look to the future, trends such as interdisciplinary research, entrepreneurship, and emerging technologies like AI, machine learning, cybersecurity, and biotechnology will shape the landscape of innovation. Join us to get an inside look into the power of innovation and the bright future of Tech Transfer.


In This Episode:

[02:10] Innovation is the cornerstone of what Tech Transfer professionals do. It's also the cornerstone of human development in general. It's our nature to seek new and improved ways of putting ideas into action.

[03:02] Innovation hasn't always received the scholarly focus that it deserves. Yet, technology is everywhere. There are 250,000 patents in our cell phone alone.

[05:02] Today we're going to talk about Technology Transfer in the role of innovation in Technology Transfer.

[05:16] The distinction between invention and innovation. Inventions are solutions to problems. Innovation is a commercially successful use of invention.

[06:22] The starting point is an invention disclosure.

[08:06] We chop up the invention disclosure in different segments and plug it into an assessment knowledge canvas. 

[08:32] There are three broad categories to understanding innovation: understanding the innovation, the classification of the innovation, and additional details broken into 10 different subparts.

[09:32] We want to take the innovation from the point the inventor has given us to commercializing.

[10:14] Four kinds of patent protection including process, composition of matter, articles of manufacture, and machines.

[11:23] Classification also has four classes including sustaining, discontinuous, disruptive, and breakthrough technologies.

[12:16] Disruptive is critical, because it's the one that creates new markets.

[13:36] Tech Transfer professionals have a lot of responsibility with categorizing the Invention from the beginning and making sure that it has a value proposition.

[14:11] Crucial mindset for academic researchers to foster innovation. Academics are moving from doing the research and sharing knowledge to research that has an impact on society.

[17:35] There are translational researchers who love working in the translational space. They can be used as ambassadors to coach the next generation. Education about the process and benefits of tech transfer is crucial for innovation.

[19:32] Joy shares some personal experiences that highlight the power of mindset when it comes to innovation.

[21:19] The story of a keyboard developed on glass which was meant for people with disabilities. The inventors were able to sell the patent for this to Steve Jobs and it was integrated into the iPhone.

[23:03] The impact and passion that these inventors had led to success.

[24:28] A nurse who developed a wearable simulation device for training healthcare practitioners was so passionate that it became a startup called Avkin that makes wearable simulators.

[25:56] Johns Hopkins University is one of the oldest universities established in 1876. It was also one of the first universities to have research as a component. They now do $3.4 billion dollars of research. They get more than 400 disclosures a year.

[27:21] The Tasty Tape is a tape that holds a burrito together. It's simple and yet it was complicated. Hopkins also developed the targeted real-time early morning system or TREWS. 

[28:41] Saccharin, rubber gloves used by surgeons, and the smart tissue autonomous robot STAR have been developed by Johns Hopkins.

[29:41] Exciting trends in academic transfer that boost innovation include integrated technology in the process. The world's getting smaller and everything's at a global scale.

[32:11] There's an increased focus of interdisciplinary research not just in the US but globally. Universities are also developing consortium models. There's also a growing emphasis on entrepreneurship and startup culture.

[35:07] Practical steps to create a culture that encourages and awards innovation amongst faculty and researchers. They need to be treated with a little TLC, because they do multi-functional work with education and research. We also need to continue to educate the faculty members.

[38:53] Emerging trends and technology shaping the future include AI and machine learning. Other emerging trends include cybersecurity, biotechnology, genomic space, and personalized medicine, and CRISPR technology. 

[40:23] 3D printing, electronics, healthcare, energy manufacturing and data science are also sectors to watch.

[41:24] Things are going to become more complicated and sophisticated as we move forward.


Resources: 

Joy Goswami, Senior Director of Corporate Engagement at Johns Hopkins University

Joy Goswami LinkedIn

Joy Goswami Twitter

Partners in Discovery: Unlocking the Potential of Research Collaborations With Gaylene Anderson


Healthcare's Next Frontier: University-Driven Innovation in Healthcare with Richard Gannotta07 Aug 202400:39:49

Let’s take a deep dive into innovation in the health sector and the role that university research plays in this sector. Joining us today is Richard Gannotta, a seasoned healthcare executive with a remarkable career spanning top academic and public health systems. 

From leading UC Irvine Health to shaping policy at NYC Health + Hospitals, Rick's expertise is unparalleled. As managing partner of Washington Square Advisors, he continues to drive innovation in the medtech and biotech industries. He's also a dedicated educator at NYU and the host of the Healthcare Nation podcast.

In this episode, we explore the future of healthcare and technological development. We'll explore how telehealth is transforming patient care, the groundbreaking potential of AI in medicine, and the critical role of intellectual property in driving innovation. 

We'll also discuss the evolving landscape of healthcare delivery, the impact of new technologies like wearables, and the policies needed to support this exciting transformation. Join us as we uncover the trends shaping the future of health and wellness. 


In This Episode:

[02:16] Rick shares his amazing career journey. According to Rick, he's just a kid from Brooklyn who caught a couple of good breaks along the way.

[02:46] He's always been interested in technology, science, and medicine.

[03:17] He ended up dropping out of high school and becoming a nurse's aide and then an LPN. This was a big break for him. It eventually led to nursing school, becoming a nurse practitioner, and getting a degree. He now has an MBA and a doctorate in healthcare policy.

[04:33] Starting out working at the bedside was invaluable information for his further career. He's also always taught academically. His firm Washington Square Advisors is a boutique firm navigating the intricacies of the healthcare sector.

[06:26] Career paths aren't linear. They can have many twists and turns.

[06:54] Rick believes that technology is the new biology. It will be equally important for the health and wellness of society and individuals.

[08:03] Validating ideas and whether the innovation is addressing the issue.

[10:17] Three Factor Framing. There are three factors that are the key components of disruptive innovations. The first Factor F1 is really market eligibility or ideation. Is there demand?

[12:14] F2 is the governing process. The environmental gating conditions that would slow things down or speed them up.

[12:56] F3 is the out of field variable or the X factor. It's an approach or technology commonly used in a different sector.

[14:05] These can be applied to idea generation, brainstorming and more.

[16:15] Rick talks about Telehealth and AI revolutionizing healthcare. There are incredible opportunities to change the game.

[18:02] Rick predicts a convergence of The Internet of Things and medical technology.

[20:14] The first rule at Washington Square Advisors is to seek to understand your client's challenges. Work closely with the teams to understand the philosophy.

[23:18] Rick talks about navigating IP challenges working with startups in the healthcare sector. It's essential to secure your patent early.

[27:44] Governmental policies are very important when you're thinking about startups.

[28:19] Can we make healthcare better, more convenient, and more accessible using technology? Another big issue is the medical professional shortage.

[32:46] Strategies for tech transfer offices include having strong relationships with industry partners, having your finger on the pulse of what's happening, and understanding the resources that you need to provide.

[34:33] Partnership agreements and joint ventures make a lot of sense.

[35:16] Pitfalls include not fully understanding or underestimating hurdles such as regulatory issues. Inadequate market understanding, fit, and validation are also concerns that need to be addressed.

[36:43] All of the processes begin with education.

[37:47] Rick's advice includes focusing on understanding the real clinical need and the why.


Resources: 

Richard Gannotta NYU Wagner

Richard Gannotta LinkedIn

Healthcare Nation Podcast



Research to Revenue: Don Siegel on the Role of University Tech Transfer and Industry Partnerships31 Jul 202400:55:21

Navigating the intricacies of university-industry partnerships is more important than ever in an era when colleges increasingly see their intellectual property portfolios as attractive sources of prospective revenue. Today, I'm thrilled to have Donald Siegel join us to talk about university-industry partnerships, as described in his book The Chicago Handbook of University Technology Transfer and Academic Entrepreneurship.

Don is a Foundation Professor of Public Policy and Management at Arizona State University and Co-Director of the Global Center for Technology Transfer. With a remarkable career that includes serving as Dean of the School of Business at the University at Albany, SUNY, and editing prominent journals such as the Journal of Technology Transfer, he has unrivaled knowledge of university technology transfer and academic entrepreneurship.

Don and his co-editors have prepared a thorough guidebook that synthesizes cutting-edge research and gives critical insights from experts across many fields. Today, we'll look at key themes from the book, including the evolution of technology transfer, intellectual property management systems, and how to foster an entrepreneurial culture within universities.


In This Episode:

[02:14] All of the authors are academics that have been studying Tech Transfer. They've seen the field evolve as an academic field. It's a global phenomenon and people in multiple disciplines have been studying this field.

[03:06] They decided to approach the University of Chicago Press and pitch their idea. It was a difficult sale, because they've never done a handbook or anything on tech transfer.

[04:36] It's a collection of leading edge research on the topic.

[05:04] One of the chapters is an entrepreneur's guide to the university. Open innovation is one of the important concepts.

[06:40] One of the major changes that Don has seen are people with business and entrepreneurial experience in the Tech Transfer office.

[07:39] They've moved beyond licensing and patenting with a greater focus on entrepreneurship. 

[09:22] There's also a much greater appreciation of the role of technology and economic development.

[11:20] Don talks about how AUTM has changed and how they have more real world professionals with business experience. There's a strong entrepreneurial component to what Tech Transfer does.

[12:44] Tech Transfer offices also play a very important role in educating faculty and administrators about the value of Tech Transfer.

[15:01] Social returns to basic research maximize the value to the economy and society.

[16:55] Tech Transfer offices are under resourced. One of the problems is stakeholders don't understand the value.

[19:39] Don talks about using business school students to get engaged with Tech Transfer.

[26:20] We need to hire university leaders that value Tech Transfer and understand how important it is.

[28:10] Prosocial Tech Transfer and defined ways of measuring it. Interviewing and surveying faculty to understand what motivates them.

[30:53] Psychological issues and the importance of champions and leadership. Tech Transfer role models are important.

[36:47] How there is a larger interest in Tech Transfer abroad. There's a much stronger international presence.

[42:09] Immediate actions include more successful marketing of Tech Transfer within the university. The responsibility falls on the leaders. Academic entrepreneurship and messaging.

[44:39] It's also been difficult to get minorities interested in Tech Transfer as a profession. 

[47:37] The three key takeaways that Don would like to highlight includes whoever manages the university needs to think of Tech Transfer as a major strategic issue.

[48:58] Tech Transfer strategy asking whether it's a priority. Set institutional goals and priorities. 

[49:28] If it is a priority, the resources should reflect that.

[50:16] Which modes of tech transfer should be stressed? How should it be rewarded?

[53:39] Strategies for stressing startups.


Resources: 

Donald Siegel ASU

The Chicago Handbook of University Technology Transfer and Academic Entrepreneurship

VentureWell


Science of Stories: The Storytelling Strategies Behind Successful Tech Transfer with Otto Pohl24 Jul 202400:40:14

Have you ever thought of storytelling as a powerful business tool? In the fast-paced world of tech transfer and startups, it absolutely is. Today's episode dives deep into the importance of storytelling – what it is and how it can be your secret weapon.  

We'll be joined by Otto Pohl, a storytelling guru with a fascinating career path. Otto's a former journalist published in major publications, a seasoned entrepreneur with four startups under his belt, and a communications expert for startups. He now uses his unique blend of skills to help universities translate their groundbreaking research into successful products with real-world impact.

Curious about the magic of storytelling in business? We'll learn how Otto helps tech transfer offices craft compelling narratives that resonate with investors, partners, and anyone who needs to understand the incredible work happening at universities. 

But storytelling isn't just about making things sound good. We'll also explore the line between a captivating pitch and empty promises. Otto will share his insights on the Pohl Pyramid and other powerful tools to ensure your story is not just exciting, but honest and builds genuine interest. 

Get ready to unlock the power of storytelling in your business! We'll discuss Otto's amazing career journey, the science behind why stories resonate, and common mistakes to avoid. This episode is packed with actionable tips and insights you won't want to miss.


In This Episode:

[02:09] Career rewrites and how journalism and entrepreneurship fit into one bucket for Otto. 

[02:43] After college, he moved to Russia to work as a photojournalist. He was a New York Times Bureau photographer. 

[03:17] He also discovered so many business opportunities that he quit his job to found three companies in Moscow.

[03:34] He rotated between entrepreneurship and journalism moving to several different countries.

[04:11] We learn how stories and business meet each other.

[06:21] Storytelling is deeper and bigger and more intertwined with everything we do than most of us realize. It fundamentally creates connections between events.

[07:37] From a business perspective, the story explains why your company has meaning.

[10:54] Storytelling and the startup context or pitching. Where is the line between vision and delusion?

[12:05] When we pitch something it's a story about what we think we can make happen.

[13:11] Lying about what you already have is called fraud.

[13:35] transfer professionals need to figure out what their technology can do in their portfolio and make sure there's a story about how this thing can change the world, but do it in a way that you feel will pan out.

[14:17] Otto breaks down what good storytellers do well.

[15:05] Focus on the why.

[15:31] Otto talks about the Pohl pyramid or multi-layer of why. A good storyteller knows which level of why they want to address.

[16:54] Tech transfer professionals should care about storytelling because it will help them create a better impact.

[19:05] Shining the light on your invention allows the pyramid of benefits to cascade and unfold.

[20:03] Otto shares examples of how finding and telling the right story and why your research matters has helped tech transfer offices. 

[26:46] The story is what makes a new company and its product sparkle.

[27:09] Otto shares how to communicate with different stakeholders. Work from the result backwards.

[29:45] Common mistakes tech transfer offices and early stage startups make with storytelling. The academic mindset and the business mindset aren't always on the same page.

[32:39] Storytelling is still a caveman exercise satisfying fundamental human needs.

[36:08] Storytelling isn't bad, we need to shift to a customer mindset, and embrace business not academic communications.


Resources: 

Otto Pohl

Otto Pohl Core Communications

Otto Pohl LinkedIn

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

Promote your TTO more Effectively” – August 13, 2024 – 12 pm EST


Thank you Scorpius BioManufacturing for sponsoring this episode of AUTM on the Air. Learn more at: scorpiusbiologics.com


Inclusive Innovation: Building A Diverse Future With The CI217 Jul 202400:22:27

Imagine a future where innovation knows no boundaries—where groundbreaking ideas emerge from every corner of society, regardless of race, gender, or economic background. This isn't just a dream; it's the bold vision driving the Council for Inclusive Innovation, or CI2. Fresh on the scene and launched by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, CI2 is spearheading a revolution in how we approach creativity and invention from historically underrepresented and under-resourced communities.

Join us as we explore the heart of CI2's mission with our special guest, Louis Boston, associate counsel for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) and the acting director of CI2. Louis's impressive career is marked by a dedication to expanding American innovation through diversity. He also serves as the USPTO’s Senior Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Officer.

He is a graduate of the Washington College of Law and a former Student Bar Association President. Louis earned an LL.M. with a specialty in contract and fiscal law from the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School. He received his B.A. in political science from The Johns Hopkins University.

Commissioned through a four-year ROTC scholarship, Louis received an education delay to attend law school. After completing law school, he served nearly 12 years in the U.S. Judge Advocate General’s Corps. Louis is a decorated Iraq combat veteran and received numerous awards and decorations including the Bronze Star Medal and the Combat Action Badge.

Listen in as Louis shares the mission of CI2, and the exciting initiatives underway to ensure that every American has the opportunity to contribute to and benefit from innovation.


In This Episode:

[02:37] CI2, pronounced CI squared, is charged for strategizing new ways to expand American innovation by tapping into the strength of our nation's diversity and increasing opportunities for all Americans to participate.

[03:44] Louis explains the 2018 Success Act that had a report for Congress that identified the representation of under-represented groups in the patent system. They recommended a creation of a high-level Council of Industry tasked with increasing the amount of underrepresented groups involved with innovation.

[05:00] CI2 strategies includes seven initiatives including the Diversity Innovation Platform. The DI platform is a free easy to use tool that shares diversity data within an innovation ecosystem.

[06:22] There's also an innovation intern program. They also have a first-time filer expedited examination program.

[08:04] Louis talks about the community outreach campaign.

[09:59] The role of partnerships CI2 includes representatives from a variety of different sectors including private industry, non-profit organizations, academia, and federal agencies.

[11:42] Advice for universities looking to engage with CI2 or other initiatives. 

[12:53] Louis shares ways where everybody can get involved in your own community to help the initiative.

[13:51] The Patent Practitioners Pro Bono Program builds on the work of the Biden Administration to open the doors to innovation across the country. Meeting people where they are is key to expanding participation in the ecosystem.

[17:42] Louis looks into the future and shares long-term goals for CI2 and how he sees the council of all being in the coming years.

[19:03] Actionable steps to foster innovation. We need to get the word out and share how IP is relevant in our daily lives.

Thank you Scorpius BioManufacturing for sponsoring this episode of AUTM on the Air. Learn more at: scorpiusbiologics.com

Resources: 

Council for Inclusive Innovation (CI2)

CI2@uspto.gov

Discovering Value: Women’s Participation In University And Commercial AI Invention

New USPTO study finds women’s participation in patenting associated with substantial economic value

National Strategy for Inclusive Innovation




Partners in Discovery: Unlocking the Potential of Research Collaborations With Gaylene Anderson10 Jul 202400:49:45

Have you ever wondered how groundbreaking scientific discoveries make their way from the lab to the marketplace? Today, we're diving deep into the intricacies of working with industry partners, negotiating deals, managing strategic research alliances, and driving external collaborations.

Joining us today is Gaylene Anderson, who brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table. As Boehringer Ingelheim's US Director for Strategic Research Relationships, Gaylene is responsible for forging partnerships and pathways for external collaboration with the US Research Organization, leveraging both internal synergies and engagement with external scientific partners.

Throughout her career, Gaylene has been a champion of economic development and entrepreneurship, creating over a dozen startups and staying focused on developing relationships with investor groups and business development colleagues nationwide. In our conversation, we'll explore creating and managing partnerships, identifying scientific partners, training and support programs for researchers, and more. 


In This Episode:

[02:26] If Gaylene had it to do over again, she would spend more time with the scientists to understand their world more.

[05:17] She would also spend more time on the front end before engaging with a partner. 

[09:44] Tech transfer professionals should sit down with their directors and explain how they want to maximize and have the best results possible. Success breeds success.

[14:06] Before working with external partners, Gaylene has to get organized internally. She works with the scientists and department heads to understand their research needs first.

[19:30] Strategies or programs developed to foster entrepreneurship and bridge the gap to industry. She asked the dean for students interested in commercialization. She then coached these students and entered them in business competitions. 

[25:12] When securing funding and investor engagement, you have to go where the opportunities and investors are. 

[30:00] Budgetwise, maximize what you can. Once you have some success the money will be found to do more. 

[33:39] Gaylene shares some of her experiences at Cleveland Clinic and other institutions. 

[36:54] Invite tech transfer colleagues to your meetings, including them will improve your deal flow and collaborations.

[37:41] Emerging trends and shifts include people realizing that you have to be more than a licensing expert. They need to be collaboration experts.

[41:34] Common misconceptions or pitfalls when working with industry partners that tech transfer professionals should be aware of include remembering your relationships and reputation are everything. Treat each other with respect and realize not everyone knows and understands the entire contract.

[45:41] Find ways to create relationships with industry partners. Make an effort to build relationships because these contacts will be important for you someday.


Resources: 

Gaylene Anderson

Gaylene Anderson LinkedIn

Scorpius Biologics


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Mastering Know-How Licensing: Strategies And Legal Insights With Wes Blakeslee03 Jul 202400:40:08

Have you ever wondered what truly goes into the commercialization of a patented invention? Today we're exploring an often misunderstood aspect of tech transfer: the strategic licensing of know-how.

Know-how encompasses the vital information necessary or beneficial for the commercialization of a patented invention. While a patent license combines aspects of both federal and state law, a know-how license is governed solely by state law, as it lacks federal statutory protection.

To guide us through this intricate subject, we have Wes Blakeslee with us. Wes holds an Engineering Degree from Penn State University and a Law Degree from the University of Maryland School of Law. With over 15 years of experience at The Johns Hopkins University as an Associate General Counsel and later as Executive Director of Technology Transfer, Wes is a seasoned expert in intellectual property and business law. A Certified Licensing Professional, he is a frequent speaker at conferences and a consultant on intellectual property and business matters.

Join us as we dive deep into the complexities and strategic importance of know-how licensing with Wes Blakeslee.


In This Episode:

[01:45] Wes was an engineer with NASA before he became a lawyer. In 1982, he acquired a client that does research and development for the government. There are no patents for classified technology, so that's how he was introduced to "know-how" licensing. 

[03:34] It means something you know that others don't. Know-how must be protected like a trade secret with steps taken to protect it. 

[04:52] You don't want to patent a trade secret, because the records are public. Patented licenses can include "know-how". 

[07:31] Describing "know-how" can include specifications. There's no specific protection for "know-how", so you have to describe the "know-how" and what it can and can't be used for. There are confidentiality provisions.

[09:24] Drafting a non-exclusive license for "know-how" is more simple than a non-exclusive license. It's critical in an exclusive license to make sure that you still have the right to use the information yourself. You have to be careful to define the field.

[12:19] The "know-how" license looks a lot like a patent license, except for the extra terms you have to know, and that there's no general legal protection.

[13:50] Describing the nature of the deal without releasing specifics. Process and product know-how licensing agreement.

[16:24] A lot of "know-how" is process-oriented and gets licensed on an annual basis.

[18:31] The goal of the negotiation is to give the other side everything they need, while preserving for your client everything that they need.

[22:00] Common obstacles include teaching them what they need without teaching them everything you know. 

[26:49] Wes talks about the licensing for non-profits and hospitals. 

[29:28] Almost every academic license will have a patent and "know-how" in the license.

[35:17] There should be discussion of "know-how" in the advanced licensing course. AUTM is a great resource! Licensing Executives Society is also a good resource. 


Resources: 

Wes Blakeslee Website

Wes Blakeslee LinkedIn

Licensing Executives Society


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