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Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)
Tom Schimmer
Frequency: 1 episode/13d. Total Eps: 100

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🇨🇦 Canada - education
06/10/2024#79🇨🇦 Canada - education
05/10/2024#39
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EP2: Quieting the Grading Noise
lundi 23 septembre 2024 • Duration 44:49
In this episode of Assess THAT, Tom and Nat discuss how educators can quiet the grading noise. Whether it be the traditional graders on one side or the undgraders on the other, many educators can find themselves feeling uncertain about how to respond.
While the extreme positions often take center stage, especially online, it is the balanced positions that are more thoughtful, grounded, and helpful for those trying to navigate grading reform.
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Sep. 23-24: GFIO 2-Day (Tom)
- Madison, WI
- Sep. 25-26: SBLA 2-Day (Tom)
- Madison, WI
- Sep. 30-Oct. 1: GFIO 2-Day (Natalie)
- Sacramento, CA
- Oct. 17-19: NESA Fall Leadership Conference (Tom)
- Dubai, U.A.E.
- Nov. 3-5: Aurora Institute Symposium
- New Orleans, LA
RECENT BOOKS:
- "Redefining Student Accountability"
- "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"
- "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"
CONNECT WITH TOM & NATALIE
- Podcast on X
- Tom on X
- Natalie on X
- Podcast on IG
- Tom on IG
- Natalie on IG
- Email: assessthat24@gmail.com
EP1: Five Reasons we're still "doing" Assessment
lundi 9 septembre 2024 • Duration 33:30
In this first episode of Assess THAT, Tom & Nat discuss the five reasons assessment must still be an essential part of every educator's professional learning plan.
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
- Sep. 23-24: GFIO 2-Day (Tom)
- Madison, WI
- Sep. 25-26: SBLA 2-Day (Tom)
- Madison, WI
- Sep. 30-Oct. 1: GFIO 2-Day (Natalie)
- Sacramento, CA
- Oct. 17-19: NESA Fall Leadership Conference (Tom)
- Dubai, U.A.E.
- Nov. 3-5: Aurora Institute Symposium
- New Orleans, LA
RECENT BOOKS:
- "Redefining Student Accountability"
- "Concise Answers to FAQs about Assessment & Grading"
- "Jackpot: Nurturing Student Investment through Assessment"
CONNECT WITH TOM & NATALIE
- Podcast on X
- Tom on X
- Natalie on X
- Podcast on IG
- Tom on IG
- Natalie on IG
- Email: assessthat24@gmail.com
Why Not Me? | Jon Orr | Implementation Errors
Episode 111
lundi 9 octobre 2023 • Duration 56:29
In the Mindset Minute (1:58), Tom shares the mantra "Why not me?" as one way of trying to combat imposter syndrome. Then (5:50) Tom is joined by Math expert and podcast host Jon Orr to discuss the state of the Math Wars and all things mathematics. Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:35), Tom discusses why it's important for us to distinguish between the non-negotiables of change and implementation errors.
- Jon on "X" (Twitter)
- MMM on"X" (Twitter)
- Jon on Instagram
- MMM on Instagram
- MMM on Facebook
- MMM on LinkedIn
- MMM - Podcast
- www.makemathmoments.com
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- Podcast on Facebook
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
Allow the Negative | Alex Kajitani | Assessment Dilemma
Episode 110
lundi 25 septembre 2023 • Duration 58:55
In the Mindset Minute (1:53), Tom shares his thoughts on why we must allow our negative thoughts to flow through us. Then (6:18) Tom is joined by author, speaker, and trapping Mathematician Alex Kajitani to discuss his latest book, "Owning It: Proven Strategies to Ace and Embrace Teaching. Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:20), Tom discusses a common assessment dilemma.
- Alex on "X" (Twitter)
- Alex on Facebook
- Alex on Instagram
- www.alexkajitani.com
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- Podcast on Facebook
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
Act Toward | Discipline as Noun | Judge Holistically
Episode 109
lundi 11 septembre 2023 • Duration 27:10
Mindset Minute (2:11) focuses on why we need to "act toward" what we want. Then (5:35), Tom describes how his view of school discipline evolved to one where "discipline" is something we help students become, not what we do to them. Finally, in Assessment Corner (17:47), Tom suggests that when we assess for the summative purpose, we need to judge holistically.
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Jonesboro, AR (Sep. 25-26)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Tom on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
Act as If | Relationships through Learning | Levels to %
Episode 108
lundi 28 août 2023 • Duration 27:59
Mindset Minute (2:23) focuses on the concept of "act as if" where we create present emotions that match how we want to feel when what we want manifests. Then (7:24), Tom asserts that building relationships with students comes through their learning, not before. Finally, in Assessment Corner (17:44), Tom answers a listener's question about converting proficiency levels to percentage-based grades.
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Jonesboro, AR (Sep. 25-26)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Tom on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
Spot Upfront | Cale Birk | Know Your Purpose
Episode 107
lundi 7 août 2023 • Duration 53:27
In the Mindset Minute (2:13), Tom shares a mantra that he's used to create a mindset that everything always works out for him. Then (6:06) Tom is joined by author, speaker, and friend Cale Birk to talk about why leaders need to plan for impact, not just change. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:01), Tom reminds listeners about the importance of knowing your assessment purpose in advance of any assessment.
- Cale on "X" (Twitter)
- Cale on Facebook
- Cale on Instagram
- Cale on LinkedIn
- www.birklearns.com
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Jonesboro, AR (Sep. 25-26)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- Podcast on Facebook
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
Biology of Belief | Nikta Afonso | Time to Pushback
Episode 106
lundi 24 juillet 2023 • Duration 55:21
In the Mindset Minute (2:36) Tom highlights the book, “The Biology of Belief” by Dr. Bruce Lipton. It is one of the most influential books in terms of Tom’s mindset and outlook on life. Then (8:36) Tom is joined by singer, songwriter, and former student Nikita Afonso to talk about her growing music career. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:51), Tom asserts that it’s time to ask those who resist assessment and grading reform to substantiate their resistance with research, not just their opinion.
- Nikita on Facebook
- Nikita on Instagram
- www.nikitaafonso.com
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Jonesboro, AR (Sep. 25-26)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- Podcast on Facebook
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
Mindset Minute | Julie Schmidt Hasson | Now is the Time
Episode 105
lundi 10 juillet 2023 • Duration 50:18
In the Mindset Minute (2:22) - a new segment - Tom asserts that the power of positive thinking is as much about the present as it is about the future. Then (6:35) Tom is joined by educator and author Julie Schmidt Hasson to discuss her latest offering, "Pause, Ponder, and Persist in the Classroom: How Teachers Turn Challenges into Opportunities for Impact." Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:48), Tom makes the case for why now - the summer - is the perfect time to build your assessment literacy.
- Julie on Twitter
- Julie on Instagram
- Julie on LinkedIn
- Chalk & Chances on Facebook
- www.chalkandchances.com
- "Pause, Poner, & Persist"
- "Safe, Seen, & Stretched"
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Jonesboro, AR (Sep. 25-26)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- Podcast on Facebook
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com
BONUS: New BC Reporting Order
mercredi 7 juin 2023 • Duration 52:19
In this bonus episode, Tom offers his perspective on the New Reporting Order in British Columbia set to be implemented in the 2023-24 school year. In PART 1, Tom highlights the backstory and development (and poor messaging) surrounding the implementation of the new curriculum when it was first developed several years ago. In PART 2 (15:15), Tom takes aim at the obsession some have with percentage-based grading and why it is an unreliable, inaccurate, and incomplete way of assessing. In PART 3 (35:04), Tom offers his critiques of the new reporting order, specifically at the assertion made in documents to families from the BC Ministry of Education that "Proficient is the goal for your child" and that "Extending is not the goal for all students in every area of learning."
UPCOMING EVENTS
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Jonesboro, AR (Sep. 25-26)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- Charleston, SC (Oct. 11-12)
- Standards-Based Learning in Action
- Seattle, WA (Oct. 16-17)
- Grading from the Inside Out
- St. Louis, MO (Dec. 6-7)
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
- Podcast on Twitter
- Tom on Twitter
- Podcast on Instagram
- Podcast on TikTok
- Podcast on Facebook
- www.tomschimmer.com
- Email: tomschimmerpod@gmail.com









